UIL Rule on Black Jersey's and gloves/etc.... [Archive]

Insanity_Strikes_Again

11-10-2004, 09:48 PM

Is this rule true? If so, what about black, long sleeve under armor? Would that be legal?

3afan

11-10-2004, 09:52 PM

specifically - what is the rule you are talking about? "UIL Rule on Black Jersey's and gloves/etc...." - what does that mean?

Insanity_Strikes_Again

11-10-2004, 09:54 PM

I remember hearing rumors this summer about wearing black gloves was illegal or something.

big daddy russ

11-10-2004, 10:06 PM

I've heard that too. Don't know if it's true or not, but I know when I was a soccer referee you couldn't wear black in ANY of the youth sports. I've heard something about the black Underarmor and black gloves, too, but I saw a team a couple years back (Giddings, I think) that had a lot of kids wearing it.

Insanity_Strikes_Again

11-10-2004, 10:07 PM

What would be the reason for it? Heat? Faking the appearance of the ball? I can't figure what the purpose would be...

Bulldog_12

11-10-2004, 10:09 PM

I dont think so, we had black receiver gloves last year.

District303aPastPlayer

11-10-2004, 10:09 PM

you can wear the black gloves. ..we did on the lines, and our recievers did too

Keith7

11-10-2004, 10:10 PM

maybe i'm crazy but arnt most team's gloves black?? ours were .. they have white writing on it but they were still black

Insanity_Strikes_Again

11-10-2004, 10:11 PM

Have they worn this this year? Because it might be a new rule, if it is one.

Keith7

11-10-2004, 10:17 PM

Does this count as all black jerseys??

http://www.forneysports.com/images/600_ssvar42.JPG

TXMike

11-10-2004, 10:20 PM

UIL exception to NCAA rules permit gloves to be any color. Not sure what you mean about the jersey's. Who said black jerseys were illegal? And there are no rules about the underwear. It can be any color.

Keith7

11-10-2004, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by TXMike
And there are no rules about the underwear. It can be any color.

good i was always afraid my Pink Jock was illegal when i played

Insanity_Strikes_Again

11-10-2004, 10:27 PM

I wasn't specifically talking about football jersey's. I heard something about that someone ordered black baseball jersey's, and then the rules changed or something and they couldn't be used.

TXMike

11-10-2004, 10:31 PM

Sorry, can't help with baseball issues (or pink jock straps).

3afan

11-10-2004, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Keith7
Does this count as all black jerseys??

http://www.forneysports.com/images/600_ssvar42.JPG

its those yellow shoe covers that should be illegal !!!!

PPHSfan

11-10-2004, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by 3afan
its those yellow shoe covers that should be illegal !!!!

Ain't that the truth. I went to a couple of Forney games last year, and it looked like flags were flying at the line of scrimmage on every play.:eek:

Ranger05

11-10-2004, 10:47 PM

the rule is all about how u cant have the same color gloves as the opposing teams jersey cause the refs will not be able to tell if ur holding or not

TXMike

11-10-2004, 10:59 PM

That is the reason the NCAA went to the rule but UIL gave an exception due to cost of buying new gloves. At first it was just going to be a temporary (year or 2 year) exception but it never went away.

CS_WILDCATS

11-11-2004, 12:06 AM

I believe the color of the gloves have to be a shade of grey (dark or light) it doesn't matter. This was done to keep DB's from wearing the same color gloves as the WR jersey and making it hard to see any holding.

CS_WILDCATS

11-11-2004, 12:07 AM

i think grey gloves were chosen because I don't think there is a team that has grey jerseys.

TXMike

11-11-2004, 06:26 AM

Again....UIL rules permit ANY color of gloves be worn, regardless of the position of the player.

HornetMom

11-11-2004, 09:10 AM

Hey TXMike, love your signature.

kaorder1999

11-11-2004, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by Keith7
Does this count as all black jerseys??

http://www.forneysports.com/images/600_ssvar42.JPG

im just happy to see all these Sulphur springs pictures on here...hehe

LH Panther Mom

11-11-2004, 09:31 AM

Those yellow things on the shoes have got to go! Ick!

tmac

11-11-2004, 11:21 AM

hey keith is that era in that picture above???

lobo12

11-11-2004, 12:11 PM

i thought those things on the shoes were illegal. arent they called spats or something like that. i know last year we had some officials come and talk to us and said you cant have spats on your shoes or pull your socks down below the heel. i dont know if this is enforced but thats what they told us

spiveyrat

11-11-2004, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Ain't that the truth. I went to a couple of Forney games last year, and it looked like flags were flying at the line of scrimmage on every play.:eek:

LOL! :D

Mustang '89

11-11-2004, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Those yellow things on the shoes have got to go! Ick!

I was thinking they would look nice with the LH uniforms!!!;) ;) ;)

kaorder1999

11-11-2004, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by lobo12
i thought those things on the shoes were illegal. arent they called spats or something like that. i know last year we had some officials come and talk to us and said you cant have spats on your shoes or pull your socks down below the heel. i dont know if this is enforced but thats what they told us

you cannot pull your socks down, supposedly, over your shoes. You can though wear the devices that go over your shoe that are manufactured for that purpose. (like in the picture) You can also tape your shoes but you cannot pull your socks down.

TXMike

11-11-2004, 05:49 PM

The spats that go on the shoes are illegal and we got the word earlier this year that spats are a "uniform attachment: and therefore illegal. If all the team had their socks down over the shoes that should be legal since the length would then be the same.

Stangster

11-11-2004, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Ain't that the truth. I went to a couple of Forney games last year, and it looked like flags were flying at the line of scrimmage on every play.:eek:

When Sweetwater played Merkel, one of Merkel's receivers had yellow sleeves and I saw flags that didn't exist. it was tripping me out.

lobo12

11-11-2004, 06:08 PM

i thought that those shoe covers were illegal, at least thats what they told us

TXMike

11-11-2004, 06:12 PM

They are.

Keith7

11-11-2004, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by TXMike
They are.

oops sorry forney for getting u in trouble! :doh:

Roll'em up

11-11-2004, 07:10 PM

You can spat with tape though, and then it becomes legal. Most kids are getting it done one way or another. Other than it being ugly I really don't see the need for a rule. TxMike what is the idea behind this one?

CRHSeagle

11-11-2004, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by CS_WILDCATS
i think grey gloves were chosen because I don't think there is a team that has grey jerseys.

Ranchview has grey away jerseys.

3afan2K3

11-11-2004, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Keith7
oops sorry forney for getting u in trouble! :doh:
A little late they stopped wearing them the last few home games. Refs wouldn't let 'em

LH Panther Mom

11-11-2004, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Mustang '89
I was thinking they would look nice with the LH uniforms!!!;) ;) ;)

LOL! :D

TXMike

11-11-2004, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Roll'em up
You can spat with tape though, and then it becomes legal. Most kids are getting it done one way or another. Other than it being ugly I really don't see the need for a rule. TxMike what is the idea behind this one?

The rule does not specifically address spats. But we have been told to consider them uniform attachments and uniform attachments are specifically prohibited. They are prohibited because NCAA desires to have players looking uniform as much as possible (like in the sock rule). Seems to me that if everyone on the team wore the spats they should be permitted.