Sweetwater 35, Snyder 25

[Stangster]

What a game! Sweetwater defense did a great job tonight. It was 21-7 at the half. 35-7 at the beginning of the 4th. The Mustangs pretty much shut down Snyder's running game, forcing the Tigers to pass, resulting in several turnovers. Most of the Tigers offense came late in the game after the contest was already decided. What a decisive victory for the Mustangs!

[pero chato]

I hate to brag but I picked Sweetwater by 11. Good job Mustangs!

[Z motion 10 out on 2]

Great win for the Mustangs. Good rebound against a tough team.

[SwtwtrMstngs04]

Great game until the 4th quarter started. turnovers killed snyder throughout the first three quarters. Congrats Sweetwater on the first but not last district win

[wildstangs]

Great win for the Stangs. Snyder got some scores in late off of a Sweetwater turnover and a blown pass interference call that would have given Sweetwater an interception. I guess Snyder probably feels they got a few bad calls their way also, as I heard their fans booing the officials several times. Sweetwaters defense did an awesome job of forcing several turnovers and holding Snyders Dee Walker to very few yards.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Great job Stangs keep up the good work

[wildstangs]

Here is the article from the Abilene Reporter. Sweetwater's running game dominated the Tigers. Check out the stats at the bottom, Sweetwater only attempted ONE pass the whole night.

Game of the Week: Thompson, Carrillo spark Mustangs by Tigers
October 16, 2004

SWEETWATER — Sparked by big plays from Jeremy Thompson and Kendall Carrillo and aided by three Snyder turnovers, the Sweetwater Mustangs remained in contention in District 4-3A after Friday’s 35-25 win over the Tigers.

"We’re right back in it (the district race)," head coach Kent Jackson said after his team built a 35-7 lead in the third quarter and held off a Snyder rally to improve to 6-2 for the season and 1-1 in district play.

Snyder, despite 201 yards passing from reserve quarterback Dustyn Williams and 129 yards rushing from Dee Walker, was left with identical 6-2 and 1-1 records after its loss.

Both teams, who were both ranked in the top 25 in at least one Class 3A state poll, now trail Wylie (2-0) in the standings with only two games still to play.

Thompson ran for 122 yards and scored twice, and Carrillo was a factor on both offense and defense for Sweetwater.

Three of his four punts backed Snyder inside its 10-yard line, and Carrillo also ran for 40 yards and one touchdown, intercepted a pass to set up a touchdown, recovered a fumble to set up another TD and turned in a quarterback sack.

"Big plays and taking advantage of turnovers were the keys for us," Jackson said. "And containing Dee (Walker) as long as we did was a big factor. I’m proud of our kids. They bounced back after a tough loss to Wylie last week."

Jackson said Thompson’s 70-yard run on Sweetwater’s second play from scrimmage for an early 7-0 lead and a turnover on Snyder’s third play of the second half gave his team momentum for each half.

In the second period, Thompson followed his 70-yarder with a 17-yard TD run for a 14-0 lead, and Carrillo made it 21-0 with a one-yard scoring run. Carrillo set up his own TD with an interception and 39-yard return.

Snyder did get on the scoreboard on the final play of the first half with Williams’ first TD pass, covering 24 yards to Lico Castillo. But the Tiger defense held Walker to 50 yards in the first half.

On the Tigers’ first possession of the third quarter, Brandon Fangman sacked Williams, forcing a fumble that was recovered by Garrett Clayton. That led to a 6-yard TD run by Joseph Banyard for a 28-7 margin for the Mustangs.

Carrillo recovered a fumble on Snyder’s next series, and Alan Copeland followed it with a 20-yard touchdown run for the 35-7 score with 0:24 to play in the third quarter.

Snyder’s rally behind Williams and Walker produced three touchdowns in the final 7:59 of the game. Walker scored on runs of seven and five yards, then Williams found Castillo again in the endzone from 12 yards out to end the scoring with less than two minutes to play.

Carrillo’s punts forced Snyder to start drives from its own 9 in the first quarter, its own 1 in the second quarter, and its own 1 again in the third quarter. "Field position was huge for us," Jackson added.

Center Lance Clark, guards Carl Cunnings and Zach Gilbert, and tackles Ty Palmer and Josh Camacho made the key blocks up front to help produce 325 yards rushing for Sweetwater, which faces Clyde next week while Snyder meets Merkel.

Snyder 0 7 0 18—25
Sweetwater 7 14 14 0—35

Scoring Summary

First Quarter

Sweetwater — Jeremy Thompson 70 run (Parker Morrow kick)

Second Quarter

Sweetwater — Thompson 17 run (Morrow kick)
Sweetwater — Kendall Carrillo 1 run (Morrow kick)
Snyder — Lico Castillo 24 pass from Dustyn Williams (Castillo kick)

Third Quarter

Sweetwater — Joseph Banyard 6 run (Morrow kick)
Sweetwater — Alan Copeland 20 run (Morrow kick)

Fourth Quarter

Snyder — Dee Walker 7 run (pass failed)
Snyder — Walker 5 run (pass failed)
Snyder — Castillo 12 pass from Williams (pass failed)

Snyder Sweetwater

First Downs 19 18
Rushes-yards 38-154 51-325
Passing-yards 201 0
Comp-Att-Int 13-21-1 0-1-0
Punts 4-39 4-38
Fumbles-lost 3-2 1-1

INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS

RUSHING — Snyder: Dustyn Williams 6-0, Matt Reigh 1-2, Dee Walker 26-129, Chad Brown 5-23. Sweetwater: Jeremy Thompson 11-122, Kendall Carrillo 9-40, Alan Copeland 8-41, Skye Green 10-76, Joseph Banyard 11-53, Justin Clowers 1-6, Duone Cunnings 1-(minus 13).

PASSING — Snyder: Reigh 0-5-1, Williams 13-16-0, 2 TDs, 201 yds. Sweetwater: Thompson 0-1-0.

RECEIVING — Snyder: Patrick Jones 2-15, Johnathan Gonzales 1-15, Lico Castillo 5-119, Chad Brown 2-23, Dee Walker 3-29.

[VERNONLION#1]

Originally posted by Stangster
What a game! Sweetwater defense did a great job tonight. It was 21-7 at the half. 35-7 at the beginning of the 4th. The Mustangs pretty much shut down Snyder's running game, forcing the Tigers to pass, resulting in several turnovers. Most of the Tigers offense came late in the game after the contest was already decided. What a decisive victory for the Mustangs!

Congrats to Sweetwater on your win last night.

[SwtwtrMstngs04]

Any thoughts from Snyder on this?

[SnyTigerFan]

yea...here's a snyder thought...

It was a good game..im sad to see that snyder lost...but, still it was a good game.
The tigers 4th quarter drive was just too little too late. So 'til the next Snyder vs. Sweetwater game.

We'll win next time..i'm calling it right now!

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by wildstangs
Great win for the Stangs. Snyder got some scores in late off of a Sweetwater turnover and a blown pass interference call that would have given Sweetwater an interception. I guess Snyder probably feels they got a few bad calls their way also, as I heard their fans booing the officials several times. Sweetwaters defense did an awesome job of forcing several turnovers and holding Snyders Dee Walker to very few yards. Yes it was a good game for the mustangs. things just tended to go thier way. Field positiion in the first half was all for sweetwater. Snyder moved the ball well at times in the first half but was pinned most of the night. Yes Snyder folks believed thier was a few missed calls. The pass interference penalty your refering to was a holding on the Corner, The ref called the corner for holding during the pass route not on the ball thrown. Dee walker Only had about 130 rushing and 23 recieving so 150 total I guess is "very few " for him. I think they could very easily meet in the playoffs. I believe the Tigers will be able to win the next meeting. congrats on the win. Snyder is now playong for a Tri district championship.

[Black_Magic]

Congrats to Sweetwater on the win. It sounds like they were up for this game. I hope these two teams meet up again. I know the score doesn't show it but I still think Snyder is the better team.

[SnyTigerFan]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Congrats to Sweetwater on the win. It sounds like they were up for this game. I hope these two teams meet up again. I know the score doesn't show it but I still think Snyder is the better team.


I agree with you...but im biased seeing as how im from snyder.

[mustang04]

was a very awesome game, snyder has a great team and some really good athletes, Dee Walker can really run the ball well, but i have to brag a little about our sophmores who ran the ball and did a great job of it to, #3 joseph banyard, and 22 skye green...they stepped up against a great defense, its ok for snyder to believe there team is better, cuz i believe the mustangs are better haha, its all about supportin ur home team

but really...i do believe the the mustangs will be even better once they reach the playoffs, each game is giving those really young pups on the team more experience, and more confidence in themselves, but for now...the record goes to the mustangs 30 wins, 15 losses, and 1 tie since 1952 w/ the snyder tigers!GREAT JOB MUSTANGS!

[Black_Magic]

Just Curious but whats the record in the last 10-12 meetings? anyone know?

[SnyTigerFan]

for who? the tigers or sweetwater?

[mustang04]

it doesnt matter who for....cuz its the same....5 wins for the tigers is 5 losses for the mustangs...the records correspond

[SnyTigerFan]

oh yea..duh

sorry..i just wasnt thinking.:doh:

[stangcenter60]

great game for both teams....snyder has a good D-Line and a great passing game.....good luck in the remainder of your season Snyder...i think yall will have a lot of football left this season after district play is over......

[Curly]

Here it is AGAIN - Updated of course
Sweetwater Mustangs vs. Snyder Tigers
Since 1980 Sweetwater’s Mustangs have played the Snyder Tigers 24 times in High School Football.
Sweetwater and Snyder played twice in 1982 due to the closing of Ector High School in Odessa, leaving each team with out a district game that year.
The first game was considered a non-district match up and the second meeting that year was a district contest.
In 1990 the Mustangs and Tigers met for a playoff match up in Sweetwater’s Mustang Bowl. In the past 23 years there have been only 3 seasons that the two rivals have not played, 1991, 2000 & 2001.
Sweetwater holds an 18-6 win to lose advantage over the tigers.
Sweetwater has outscored the Tigers 590 – 278 over that period of time.

Below are the scores from each of those contests.

1980 – Sweetwater 18 Snyder 7
1981 – Sweetwater 40 Snyder 2

1982 – Sweetwater 28 Snyder 0 (non dist)
1982 – Sweetwater 42 Snyder 21 (dist)

1983 – Sweetwater 28 Snyder 6
1984 – Sweetwater 48 Snyder 7
1985 – Sweetwater 35 Snyder 6 (Sweetwater 4A State Champions)
1986 – Sweetwater 43 Snyder 6
1987 – Sweetwater 31 Snyder 15
1988 – Sweetwater 55 Snyder 6
1989 – Sweetwater 18 Snyder 13

1990 – Snyder 17 Sweetwater 3 Play off Game
1991 – No Game
1992 – Snyder 13 Sweetwater 6
1993 – Snyder 33 Sweetwater 28
1994 – Sweetwater 38 Snyder 33
1995 – Sweetwater 21 Snyder 7
1996 – Sweetwater 27 Snyder 16
1997 – Sweetwater 27 Snyder 7
1998 – Snyder 23 Sweetwater 7
1999 – Snyder 34 Sweetwater 14
2000 – No Game
2001 – No Game
2002 – Snyder 26 Sweetwater 20
2003 – Sweetwater 25 Snyder 13
2004 – Sweetwater 35 Snyder 25

[Black_Magic]

So, the answer to my question would that in the last 10-12 meetings ,Snyder 6 wins Sweetater 6 Win. Thanks!:thumbsup:

[GreenMonster]

Sounds like Coach Jackson has his Flexbone O rolling once again. Good luck Sweetwater.

[Black & Gold]

Originally posted by mustang04
was a very awesome game, snyder has a great team and some really good athletes, Dee Walker can really run the ball well, but i have to brag a little about our sophmores who ran the ball and did a great job of it to, #3 joseph banyard, and 22 skye green...they stepped up against a great defense, its ok for snyder to believe there team is better, cuz i believe the mustangs are better haha, its all about supportin ur home team

but really...i do believe the the mustangs will be even better once they reach the playoffs, each game is giving those really young pups on the team more experience, and more confidence in themselves, but for now...the record goes to the mustangs 30 wins, 15 losses, and 1 tie since 1952 w/ the snyder tigers!GREAT JOB MUSTANGS!

The First time I saw Skye Green I think was against Greenwood. That kid has some wheels on him. He can flat get it.

[lobo dad]

I have to agree on that, Skye Green is fast. Sweetwater definitely came to play, Snyder just started off way too late. I hope both these teams go far in the playoffs, it would be fun to see a rematch.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Curly
Here it is AGAIN - Updated of course
Sweetwater Mustangs vs. Snyder Tigers
Since 1980 Sweetwater’s Mustangs have played the Snyder Tigers 24 times in High School Football.
Sweetwater and Snyder played twice in 1982 due to the closing of Ector High School in Odessa, leaving each team with out a district game that year.
The first game was considered a non-district match up and the second meeting that year was a district contest.
In 1990 the Mustangs and Tigers met for a playoff match up in Sweetwater’s Mustang Bowl. In the past 23 years there have been only 3 seasons that the two rivals have not played, 1991, 2000 & 2001.
Sweetwater holds an 18-6 win to lose advantage over the tigers.
Sweetwater has outscored the Tigers 590 – 278 over that period of time.

Below are the scores from each of those contests.

1980 – Sweetwater 18 Snyder 7
1981 – Sweetwater 40 Snyder 2

1982 – Sweetwater 28 Snyder 0 (non dist)
1982 – Sweetwater 42 Snyder 21 (dist)

1983 – Sweetwater 28 Snyder 6
1984 – Sweetwater 48 Snyder 7
1985 – Sweetwater 35 Snyder 6 (Sweetwater 4A State Champions)
1986 – Sweetwater 43 Snyder 6
1987 – Sweetwater 31 Snyder 15
1988 – Sweetwater 55 Snyder 6
1989 – Sweetwater 18 Snyder 13

1990 – Snyder 17 Sweetwater 3 Play off Game
1991 – No Game
1992 – Snyder 13 Sweetwater 6
1993 – Snyder 33 Sweetwater 28
1994 – Sweetwater 38 Snyder 33
1995 – Sweetwater 21 Snyder 7
1996 – Sweetwater 27 Snyder 16
1997 – Sweetwater 27 Snyder 7
1998 – Snyder 23 Sweetwater 7
1999 – Snyder 34 Sweetwater 14
2000 – No Game
2001 – No Game
2002 – Snyder 26 Sweetwater 20
2003 – Sweetwater 25 Snyder 13
2004 – Sweetwater 35 Snyder 25

will ya look at that...snyder never beat the mustangs in the 80's

[Black_Magic]

I would be intrested to see the whole deal from say 1920s on.
I understand that there was over 5000 people at the 1927 game when Snyder beat an undefeated Sweetwater.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I would be intrested to see the whole deal from say 1920s on.
I understand that there was over 5000 people at the 1927 game when Snyder beat an undefeated Sweetwater.

no offense..but i think it would be just like it has been since 1952

[Phantom Stang]

Originally posted by Black_Magic

I understand that there was over 5000 people at the 1927 game when Snyder beat an undefeated Sweetwater.

...and the Snyder fans are STILL talking about it.:rolleyes: :p

[Black & Gold]

This is a tough loss to live with. I'll give it Sweetwater, they brought their A game. I hope to see these two teams meet in the playoffs. I think there would be a different outcome. I am just wondering but is the turf much of an advantage for Sweetwater?

[Stangster]

Originally posted by Black & Gold
This is a tough loss to live with. I'll give it Sweetwater, they brought their A game. I hope to see these two teams meet in the playoffs. I think there would be a different outcome. I am just wondering but is the turf much of an advantage for Sweetwater?

I'm sure Snyder's great expectations are making this a tough loss. I know Snyder wants to beat Sweetwater above all else.

I don't understand what makes you think the outcome will be different next time. I mean, 35-7 after 3 qtrs is not exactly a close game.

It seems to me that some teams are always looking for an excuse to justify a loss (other than blaming themselves or crediting their opponent). Whether it be; playing in the bowl, the coming down the ramp voodoo or maybe it was the turf - anything other than Sweetwater being the superior team.

[TheDOCTORdre]

By the way I didnt make the game and not that this really matters, how did Snyder enter the Bowl

[Stangster]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
By the way I didnt make the game and not that this really matters, how did Snyder enter the Bowl

They entered and exited each time by the way of the steps closest to the ramp.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Stangster
I'm sure Snyder's great expectations are making this a tough loss. I know Snyder wants to beat Sweetwater above all else.

I don't understand what makes you think the outcome will be different next time. I mean, 35-7 after 3 qtrs is not exactly a close game.

It seems to me that some teams are always looking for an excuse to justify a loss (other than blaming themselves or crediting their opponent). Whether it be; playing in the bowl, the coming down the ramp voodoo or maybe it was the turf - anything other than Sweetwater being the superior team.

good point....i mean snyder is a really good team..but sweetwater to me just has more talent

[panther power]

whats up buddy, how is it looking in your district? it looks good for us (ft. stockton) were on the way to being district champs. Wanted some insight on your district because that's usaully who we play in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs......good luck in the rest of the season..

[lobo12]

its who you will play in the first round not the first two and it looks like yall will play abilene wylie first and good luck on that one

[Black & Gold]

Originally posted by Stangster
I'm sure Snyder's great expectations are making this a tough loss. I know Snyder wants to beat Sweetwater above all else.

I don't understand what makes you think the outcome will be different next time. I mean, 35-7 after 3 qtrs is not exactly a close game.

It seems to me that some teams are always looking for an excuse to justify a loss (other than blaming themselves or crediting their opponent). Whether it be; playing in the bowl, the coming down the ramp voodoo or maybe it was the turf - anything other than Sweetwater being the superior team.

Don't mistake my question as an excuse. I agree that ON THAT NIGHT Sweetwater was the superior team. The score shows that. I just simply wanted to know if Sweetwater is actually a better team playing on the turf than on the grass.

[Stangster]

Originally posted by Black & Gold
Don't mistake my question as an excuse. I agree that ON THAT NIGHT Sweetwater was the superior team. The score shows that. I just simply wanted to know if Sweetwater is actually a better team playing on the turf than on the grass.

I don't think it makes a difference, turf or grass (as long as the grass is dry). Wet grass and mud has an adverse effect on just about everyone.

[mustang04]

ill settle this....

last year....all we practiced on was grass, then sometimes for the second half of practice, we'd take it to the turf....so trust me, the mustangs are gonna be good on grass or turf, take ur pic

[Black_Magic]

I think I will remember this post for a post round 4 possible crow eating session.:D

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I think I will remember this post for a post round 4 possible crow eating session.:D

Wasnt one serving enough for ya magic?

[lobo12]

lol good one.

[stangcenter60]

turf really doesnt make a difference....

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
Wasnt one serving enough for ya magic? I like Crow:D But can you eat it?:clap:

[Stangster]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I like Crow:D But can you eat it?:clap:

Are you saying, you like "to" crow or you like "eating" crow? Because I don't know anyone who actually likes to eat crow, but there is a first time for everything I suppose. Of course, this might explain some outlandish statements concerning Snyder.

Hopefully, the Mustangs will do well and the Sweetwater fans will not have to eat any crow. But if we do, I hear it tastes best with salt (I guess some Snyder fans would know).

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Stangster
. Of course, this might explain some outlandish statements concerning Snyder.

Find an outlandish statement from Snyder people on here would you please stangster. If you cant, then you probably should recant the statement. Its good that sweetwater feels so good now. keep that positive attitude. Just hope nobody figures out you cant pass the ball. as long as you dont have to pass your in luck. BUT thats not always the case.;)

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Find an outlandish statement from Snyder people on here would you please stangster. If you cant, then you probably should recant the statement. Its good that sweetwater feels so good now. keep that positive attitude. Just hope nobody figures out you cant pass the ball. as long as you dont have to pass your in luck. BUT thats not always the case.;)

hey..Snyder KNEW we didnt pass the ball, and yet we had well above 300 yards on yall....hmmmmm:rolleyes:

[Black_Magic]

Still waiting for the outlandish statement a Snyder Poster put on here...... You said Statements. Find one.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by SnyTigerFan
yea...here's a snyder thought...
We'll win next time..i'm calling it right now!

Sounds outlandish to me:D

[lobo dad]

Yea Sweetwater played well, but I have to agree with all them from Snyder, a rematch this year will probably have a different outcome. It just seems that even though it was too late, Snyder seemed to figure out the Stangs offense and started to get their own offense rolling.

[TheDOCTORdre]

All it seems to me is Sweetwater put in 2nd string and Snyder stll had most of their starters in

[Stangster]

Originally posted by lobo dad
Yea Sweetwater played well, but I have to agree with all them from Snyder, a rematch this year will probably have a different outcome. It just seems that even though it was too late, Snyder seemed to figure out the Stangs offense and started to get their own offense rolling.

Pleeease...The game was already won, Sweetwater was just playing containment and giving some of our other players some reps. That plus some terrible calls by the refs allowed most of Snyder's offense in the fourth. We could have hung another TD on the tigers but chose not to.

[mustang04]

Snyder..yall have to understand...when we score 40 or anywhere around there and have a huge lead....we dont run up the score..we use that for time that the second and 3rd stringers can play, and to run a few new plays....trust me...if they really have wanted to....the coaches and players for sweetwater coulda made it a loooooong fourth quarter for ya

[Stangster]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Find an outlandish statement from Snyder people on here would you please stangster. If you cant, then you probably should recant the statement. Its good that sweetwater feels so good now. keep that positive attitude. Just hope nobody figures out you cant pass the ball. as long as you dont have to pass your in luck. BUT thats not always the case.;)

Outlandish statements by Snyder fans? hmmm.... so many to choose from, here are a few:
"Sweetwater could sit home for the post season" (Not gonna happen, my friend!)
"Snyder's O is a juggernaut that can't be stopped" (35-7, less than 9 min left in the 4th)
"Too many people are looking past Snyder and picking Sweetwater or Wylie as champions" (Snyder is 3rd in district)
"Sweetwater saying Snyder trash talks is like the pot calling the kettle black" (please... y'all are known for your trash talk Sweetwater doesn't hold a candle to y'all)

and on and on it goes.......

[stateboundWR#5]

Originally posted by lobo dad
Yea Sweetwater played well, but I have to agree with all them from Snyder, a rematch this year will probably have a different outcome. It just seems that even though it was too late, Snyder seemed to figure out the Stangs offense and started to get their own offense rolling. Give than man a cigar!

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Stangster
Outlandish statements by Snyder fans? hmmm.... so many to choose from, here iare a few:
"Sweetwater could sit home for the post season" (Not gonna happen, my friend!)
"Snyder's O is a juggernaut that can't be stopped" (35-7, less than 9 min left in the 4th)
"Too many people are looking past Snyder and picking Sweetwater or Wylie as champions" (Snyder is 3rd in district)
"Sweetwater saying Snyder trash talks is like the pot calling the kettle black" (please... y'all are known for your trash talk Sweetwater doesn't hold a candle to y'all)

and on and on it goes.......
Ok here we go.
#1
Sweetwater could have stayed home and concievably still stay home. NOT OUTLANDISH. Outlandish is something that could not concievably happen.
#2 Snyder O is #1 in the District in total yards and total points. Sweetwater O has played the same predistrict schedule Snyder has with the exception of We played Lubbock estacado you played Pecos. one is a substandard 4a other being a substanard 3a. Snyder out gained Sweetwater in total yardage friday night. late start but put up big numbers despite poor field position the entire first half ( remember the punts inside the 10 ?).
#3 Your proving the very quote you brought up.


Still no "outlandish" statements.... Maybe the poster doesnot know the meaning of outlandish.:rolleyes:

[TheDOCTORdre]

Is it just me or would this thread be dead if one of us had to play a team that we actually thought had a chance of beating us instead of playing Merkel and Clyde

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by mustang04
Snyder..yall have to understand...when we score 40 or anywhere around there and have a huge lead....we dont run up the score..we use that for time that the second and 3rd stringers can play, and to run a few new plays....trust me...if they really have wanted to....the coaches and players for sweetwater coulda made it a loooooong fourth quarter for ya You were there. No starters came out. heck ,you guys even put thopson in to cover Castillo to try to keep him from torching yall. he had 5 receptions and 2 TDs for 110 yards. I think there were 4 different corners who tried to cover him. the starting O was in there from the beginning to the end. I was there and Saw it. If snyder converted just 2 2pt conversions and got just one of the onside kicks the game could have gone into overtime. but you know that. if you dont then thats good. keep that confidence for the next meeting.

[TheDOCTORdre]

The starting o was not in the whole time the 2nd string line strated coming in towrds the end of the 3rd quarter

[Stangster]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Ok here we go.
#1
Sweetwater could have stayed home and concievably still stay home. NOT OUTLANDISH. Outlandish is something that could not concievably happen.
#2 Snyder O is #1 in the District in total yards and total points. Sweetwater O has played the same predistrict schedule Snyder has with the exception of We played Lubbock estacado you played Pecos. one is a substandard 4a other being a substanard 3a. Snyder out gained Sweetwater in total yardage friday night. late start but put up big numbers despite poor field position the entire first half ( remember the punts inside the 10 ?).
#3 Your proving the very quote you brought up.


Still no "outlandish" statements.... Maybe the poster doesnot know the meaning of outlandish.:rolleyes:

#1 I gave four statements and you only addressed three of them.

#2 It's inconceivable to me that you misspelled "conceivably."

#3 According to your definition of "outlandish" I could say "As the Snyder Tigers take the field this Friday night, a piano will fall from the sky and destroy their tiger tunnel" because it could conceivably happen, although unlikely, and it not be an outlandish statement. I think most people will disagree with your definition.

#4 I can't conceive the notion that the Sweetwater Mustangs won't make the playoffs. So I consider the idea "outlandish."

#5 I didn't object to Snyder's offensive success or compare them to ours, I just pointed out the statement that they couldn't be stopped was wrong and outlandish.
Sweetwater shut down the running game forcing Snyder to pass which resulted in 3 turnovers.
Poor field position is an opportunity to put up big numbers, its the short field situations that make it difficult to put up big yardage numbers.
Snyder didn't do anything until the game was already in the bag and Sweetwater was playing containment.

#6 Snyder being in 3rd place doesn't prove your point about overlooking Snyder, instead you are right where most expected you to be (not district champs but right in the middle of the pack).

#7 You can roll your eyes all you want, but I suggest you consult a dictionary or ask around if you do not understand the common usage of outlandish.

#8 I predict the outcome will be the same the next time Sweetwater and Snyder meet on the football field.

just my onion

[lobo12]

sweetwater won, played the better game, and was the better team and thats all there is, and even if there is a rematch wait for it to happen, snyder worry about your next game and quit complaining about the defeat you suffered friday night. sweetwater won and thats all there is to it

[Stangster]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
You were there. No starters came out. heck ,you guys even put thopson in to cover Castillo to try to keep him from torching yall. he had 5 receptions and 2 TDs for 110 yards. I think there were 4 different corners who tried to cover him. the starting O was in there from the beginning to the end. I was there and Saw it. If snyder converted just 2 2pt conversions and got just one of the onside kicks the game could have gone into overtime. but you know that. if you dont then thats good. keep that confidence for the next meeting.

No starters came out - then how did a third string back fumble the ball giving y'all another possesion?

I was there and I have seen the film.

If, if, if if......If the bullfrog had wings..... the fact is Snyder did not convert any 2 pointers and did not recover any onside kicks (that last onside was truly ridiculous, we got the ball on your 41).

I know we could have hung another TD on ya at the end, but Coach Jackson chose not to (I would have).

But you go ahead and believe whatever it takes to sleep nights until those 365 days are over and we play again.. We know y'all can't wait to do it again. And we'll easily stay confident.

[Stangster]

Originally posted by lobo12
sweetwater won, played the better game, and was the better team and thats all there is, and even if there is a rematch wait for it to happen, snyder worry about your next game and quit complaining about the defeat you suffered friday night. sweetwater won and thats all there is to it

Amen, brother

[Stangster]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
Is it just me or would this thread be dead if one of us had to play a team that we actually thought had a chance of beating us instead of playing Merkel and Clyde

I will have to agree with you on this one, I think you hit the nail right on the head.

Snyder would do well to stop lamenting this loss and look forward to this week's game, lest the Merkel Badgers sneak up on them.

[mustang04]

BOTTOM LINE....... SWEETWATER 35 Snyder 25...we WON..thats it, no ifs ands or buts

[Stangster]

Originally posted by mustang04
BOTTOM LINE....... SWEETWATER 35 Snyder 25...we WON..thats it, no ifs ands or buts

"Ain't no guess so about it!"

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by lobo12
sweetwater won, played the better game, and was the better team and thats all there is, and even if there is a rematch wait for it to happen, snyder worry about your next game and quit complaining about the defeat you suffered friday night. sweetwater won and thats all there is to it Where is anyone compaining about friday night. Nobody is. Im simply stating that no snyder posters have posted "outlandish" statements. outlandish statement would be saying that "nobody will be able to stop snyder from being the DII state champs this year". that would be outlandish.

Stangster. you didnt shut down snyders running game. Crap! Dee walker had 130 yards rushing! if thats shutting it down I would hate to see what a good day for a back would be vs Sweetwater. do you consider 200 yards a good day? Heck Snyder put 365 yards on sweetwater! 200 in the air! Id say thats a tough O to stop. Scored3 TDs in 10 min! vs #1 D and you guys know it. If you want to make people think Starting O and Starting D came out then go ahead and LIE to them but dont try to sell me that crap. I was there and Know who starts. one or two starters subbed out does not mean the #2 D or O was in.

Your punts that just seemed to always get the bounces you need pinned snyder most of the first half. one punt that was put on the 1 ft line was a touch back. 2 other pass interference were not called against sweetwater that clearly were bad so you should not mention penaltys. The ball just tended to bounce sweetwaters way Friday night and they won the game. Snyder finaly got on track. Keep that confidence!:D

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Where is anyone compaining about friday night. Nobody is. Im simply stating that no snyder posters have posted "outlandish" statements.

Stangster. you didnt shut down snyders running game. Crap! Dee walker had 130 yards rushing! if thats shutting it down I would hate to see what a good day for a back would be vs Sweetwater. do you consider 200 yards a good day? Heck Snyder put 365 yards on sweetwater! 200 in the air! Id say thats a tough O to stop. Scored3 TDs in 10 min! vs #1 D and you guys know it. If you want to make people think Starting O and Starting D came out then go ahead and LIE to them but dont try to sell me that crap. I was there and Know who starts. one or two starters subbed out does not mean the #2 D or O was in.

Your punts that just seemed to always get the bounces you need pinned snyder most of the first half. one punt that was put on the 1 ft line was a touch back. 2 other pass interference were not called against sweetwater that clearly were bad so you should not mention penaltys. The ball just tended to bounce sweetwaters way Friday night and they won the game. Snyder finaly got on track. Keep that confidence!:D

those punts were well placed and NEVER did on go into the endzzone b4 one of our guys touched it...we are the better team, just swallow it

[wildstangs]

Some peoples blind hatred for Sweetwater is showing up once again. How can you even argue after the beating the other night? Snyder didnt score their late TD's until mostly second string units were in. Sure their back had 130 yards, but how many came on those last three drives? Another year, another Sweetwater win, and the same old excuses everytime.

[wildstangs]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I think I will remember this post for a post round 4 possible crow eating session.:D

How can you serve up some crow if a team advances to round 4?!?! I am impressed with any team that makes it to round four, even if it is Snyder.

[Stangster]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Where is anyone compaining about friday night. Nobody is. Im simply stating that no snyder posters have posted "outlandish" statements. outlandish statement would be saying that "nobody will be able to stop snyder from being the DII state champs this year". that would be outlandish.

Stangster. you didnt shut down snyders running game. Crap! Dee walker had 130 yards rushing! if thats shutting it down I would hate to see what a good day for a back would be vs Sweetwater. do you consider 200 yards a good day? Heck Snyder put 365 yards on sweetwater! 200 in the air! Id say thats a tough O to stop. Scored3 TDs in 10 min! vs #1 D and you guys know it. If you want to make people think Starting O and Starting D came out then go ahead and LIE to them but dont try to sell me that crap. I was there and Know who starts. one or two starters subbed out does not mean the #2 D or O was in.

Your punts that just seemed to always get the bounces you need pinned snyder most of the first half. one punt that was put on the 1 ft line was a touch back. 2 other pass interference were not called against sweetwater that clearly were bad so you should not mention penaltys. The ball just tended to bounce sweetwaters way Friday night and they won the game. Snyder finaly got on track. Keep that confidence!:D

You are blowing so much smoke that I don't even know where to begin and I'm not really sure I should even bother (it's like arguing with a fence post). I guess I'll give a whirl.

#1 You said no starters came out (and I proved you wrong).

#2 Saying you were there doesn't make you right (there were alot of us there and some of us saw the film).

#3 It's impolite to call someone a liar (just because you disagree with them).

#4 Why do you think y'all had 200 yds in the air? (because we shut down y'alls running game for 3 qtrs - look at Walker's 1st half stats).

#5 I notice you didn't disagree with me when I said we could have hung another on you at the end (thank you).

#6 Disputing official's calls (I guess only you have that right - you need to see the game film, its pretty plain).

#7 So Snyder lost because of a few lucky bounces (I'm sure it wasn't because of Sweetwater's skill or Snyder's mistakes).

#8 The fact remains: Sweetwater won and Snyder lost (and I'll try to be more careful with my use of the word "outlandish").

A little advice; Try to say what you mean (It will cut down on these circular discussions), try not to assume (you can quickly back yourself in a corner), try to use evidence and reasoning to make your point (not insults and repetition). I doubt this will settle anything but I'm going to wash my hands of it at this point (this is not a concession on any point I've make thus far).

[stangcenter60]

as the center for the stangs i was the only one on the line to play the whole game.....and snyder never figured out our offense....WE figured out how to fumble the ball and make some mistakes.....and castillo didnt torch our corners....our corners were just mixed up all night....u dont torch a 4.3 forty....

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Stangster
You are blowing so much smoke that I don't even know where to begin and I'm not really sure I should even bother (it's like arguing with a fence post). I guess I'll give a whirl.

#1 You said no starters came out (and I proved you wrong).

#2 Saying you were there doesn't make you right (there were alot of us there and some of us saw the film).

#3 It's impolite to call someone a liar (just because you disagree with them).

#4 Why do you think y'all had 200 yds in the air? (because we shut down y'alls running game for 3 qtrs - look at Walker's 1st half stats).

#5 I notice you didn't disagree with me when I said we could have hung another on you at the end (thank you).

#6 Disputing official's calls (I guess only you have that right - you need to see the game film, its pretty plain).

#7 So Snyder lost because of a few lucky bounces (I'm sure it wasn't because of Sweetwater's skill or Snyder's mistakes).

#8 The fact remains: Sweetwater won and Snyder lost (and I'll try to be more careful with my use of the word "outlandish").

A little advice; Try to say what you mean (It will cut down on these circular discussions), try not to assume (you can quickly back yourself in a corner), try to use evidence and reasoning to make your point (not insults and repetition). I doubt this will settle anything but I'm going to wash my hands of it at this point (this is not a concession on any point I've make thus far). sweetwater brought up calls not snyder folks:D
either your dont know what your talking about or your a liar. either one or the other you choose. makes not diff to me.
:D
Walker NEVER has good first quarter stats. he always gains more as the game goes on.. AGAIN 130 yards is shutting down a back??? give me a break . Remember 360 total O??:D
Dont have to disagree with hanging more points on snyder in the 4th because you could not have. but believe what you want. its clear you do anyway.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
but believe what you want. its clear you do anyway.

the only thing we believe is what is true, WE WON, We were better, and the score shows that, good luck with the rest of the season and hopefully we will meet again in the playoffs and we will see who is better on that day if we meet again, but until that day, you didnt put up last Friday, so I guess you have to shut up

[mustang04]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
the only thing we believe is what is true, WE WON, We were better, and the score shows that, good luck with the rest of the season and hopefully we will meet again in the playoffs and we will see who is better on that day if we meet again, but until that day, you didnt put up last Friday, so I guess you have to shut up

nicely said.....snyder just cant swallow the fact that we won, they just say "next time"

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by stangcenter60
our corners were just mixed up all night....u dont torch a 4.3 forty.... LOL I guess if a corner can be confused as to who to cover when they are in Man To Man coverage then I will have to give you that one. BUT Castillo caught one TD under Double Coverage in the enzone at the horn of the first half. Do you normaly put your starting QB in to cover a reciever who already had 4 catches and 1 TD? I guess he is a #2. I dont know what Green Runs in the 40 but Castillo got behind him and others them all night.

[lobo12]

SNYDER LOST AND SWEETWATER WON, AND THATS ALL THERE IS TOO IT

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
LOL I guess if a corner can be confused as to who to cover when they are in Man To Man coverage then I will have to give you that one. BUT Castillo caught one TD under Double Coverage in the enzone at the horn of the first half. Do you normaly put your starting QB in to cover a reciever who already had 4 catches and 1 TD? I guess he is a #2. I dont know what Green Runs in the 40 but Castillo got behind him and others them all night.

Black magic.....u are so ignorant, u even understand that Green, Banyard, and cunnings are all sophmores, i will gurante you that skye green can burn anyone on ur team, they are young and are still learning, so u know what, in my opinion, for sophomores, those guys are doing pretty dang good

dont make me change my mind about the snyder ppl, i said a while back how i really had nothing against yall, but snyder just cant stand it when sweetwater beats them, IN ANYTHING

[Black_Magic]

I am repying to the fact that someone said Green and banyard ect were so fast that nobody form snyder could beat them. Castillo TORCHED them. DID you not see that? Is is ignorant to see it happen and to SAY it didnt happened? Look Sweetwater won thats a fact. They were the better team on friday night. ON THAT friday night. So I guess you guys believe wylie is better than sweetwater?? NO you dont! I have seen post to that subject. So its ok for you guys to think your better than Wylie and not ok for snyder to say the same thing in the same cirumstances? Snyder Got a slow start and got in a hole early.They had a couple of turnovers that turned into TDs.The D looked good at times and broke down at times. On another friday it will be different. if you cant take us saying that then thats your problem. The only thing we have to accept is Friday Sweetwater won THAT game. I think If Snyder comes out in the next meetting this year( if it happens ) and Throws the ball , It will open up the running game even more. If snyder MAKES Sweetwater do things on O they dont like to do it could be a very different outcome than the last game.

[TheDOCTORdre]

PUT UP OR SHUT UP, YA'LL DIDNT PUT UP ON FRIDAY SO I GUESS THAT LEAVES YOU ONE OPTION

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I am repying to the fact that someone said Green and banyard ect were so fast that nobody form snyder could beat them. Castillo TORCHED them. DID you not see that? Is is ignorant to see it happen and to SAY it didnt happened? Look Sweetwater won thats a fact. They were the better team on friday night. ON THAT friday night. So I guess you guys believe wylie is better than sweetwater?? NO you dont! I have seen post to that subject. So its ok for you guys to think your better than Wylie and not ok for snyder to say the same thing in the same cirumstances? Snyder Got a slow start and got in a hole early.They had a couple of turnovers that turned into TDs.The D looked good at times and broke down at times. On another friday it will be different. if you cant take us saying that then thats your problem. The only thing we have to accept is Friday Sweetwater won THAT game. I think If Snyder comes out in the next meetting this year( if it happens ) and Throws the ball , It will open up the running game even more. If snyder MAKES Sweetwater do things on O they dont like to do it could be a very different outcome than the last game.

u are right in a sense...but it has nothing to do with speed, he didnt torch them, torching them would be they both took off side by side and Castillo leaving them behind just by speed, but he didnt, if they were in a dead sprint, castillo would be dusted, the corners are always gonna be a lil behind the receiver cuz they are trying to anticipate where the receiver is going, and what is happening back at the line of scrimmage, receivers know exactly what they are running, so of course its gonna appear that they are 'faster'

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by mustang04
u are right in a sense...but it has nothing to do with speed, he didnt torch them, torching them would be they both took off side by side and Castillo leaving them behind just by speed, but he didnt, if they were in a dead sprint, castillo would be dusted, the corners are always gonna be a lil behind the receiver cuz they are trying to anticipate where the receiver is going, and what is happening back at the line of scrimmage, receivers know exactly what they are running, so of course its gonna appear that they are 'faster'
Well anyway you slice it Castillo had 118 yards on 5 catches and 2 TDs. 20 yards average per catch I would say is Dominating for any reciever. you can say different but I think he had a big night. Walker also had a good night with 130 yards rushing and 29 recieving ( 159 total ). To say you guys shut Snyder down in anyway is not accurate at all. 360+ in total O is a big night for most teams with exception to teams like Tech. Thats All Im saying. Sweetawter better learn to throw the ball. you have to see that for your self.

[stangcenter60]

o so i guess what you are saying is that snyder can move the ball but they cant finish what they start when they get to the redzone....i understand now.....and when u only throw to one reciever all night i would hope he has some good yardage.....what it boils down to is inexperience in our younger corners...and y do u keep talking about how we put thompson in to cover castillo???...why does that matter?!?!...and why should we throw the ball when we can score by running the ball right at u???...if i remember right one of our touchdowns came from the fullback through the A gap from like 20 yards out!....true our passing game isnt as good as our running game but when u dont need it, why use it??? i just dont see y u are arguing so much about those little things.....ya castillo got behind us a time or two but that wasnt enough.....sry better luck next time...yall played a great game but came up short....it happens and it sucks but get over it.....there are bigger and better games ahead for BOTH TEAMS!!!!!

[wildstangs]

Sweetwater has never been much of a passing team. I can remember several games where they didnt attempt more than 5 passes the whole time. According to the stats, Sweetwater attempted one pass the whole game, which was incomplete. Why attempt it when you dont need it? I cant remember who said it, but there is a famous quote that says "Only three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them arent good." I didnt mean that Walker didnt have a good night against Sweetwater, just not as good as he HAS had against other teams. He had 26 carries for 129 yards, which comes out to around 5 yards per carry.

[stateboundWR#5]

well as black magic said earlier... sweetwater did win THIS time but we will be ready to see them in the 4th round that is IF they make it that far... all it will take is one team to stop that run game and they are done because everyone knows they can't throw the ball! having a big head about all this isnt gonna help them either... yea they won but they arent anything special, they are no different than any other team that will play tonite, they get dressed the same way every other team does, and they can be beat. If snyder would have started playing the way they did in the 4th earlier in the game, even as late as the 3rd, the result would have been different. On another point it looked to me that sweetwater was doing everything that they could think of to try and keep castillo from catching the ball but some how he continued to get behind their 4.3 corners that seemed to get confused on how to run man coverage... i know that they are young but didnt they learn that in junior high?

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by stateboundWR#5
well as black magic said earlier... sweetwater did win THIS time but we will be ready to see them in the 4th round that is IF they make it that far... having a big head about all this isnt gonna help them either... yea they won but they arent anything special, they are no different than any other team that will play tonite, they get dressed the same way every other team does, and they can be beat. If snyder would have started playing the way they did in the 4th earlier in the game, even as late as the 3rd, the result would have been different.

All I have saaid is we won on Friday night and as far as meeting in the fourth round it looks like you shouldn't be doubting us, nearly all playoff predictions have us facing Perryton in the fourth round and ya'll are no where to be found. As far as having a big head, we can have one for now we won, ya'll have a big ahead and a big mouth and ya'll lost. We are special, every team is special in their own way, and you are right, we get dressed the same way and we can be beat, ask Lubbock Cooper, they beat us. And as far as if ya'll started to play better earlier, u are right by using the word if, but then again If frogs had wings they wouldn't kick their self in the a** everytime they jumped

[westTXbest]

I Gurantee u Greenwood want another shot at them.

[westTXbest]

at sweetwater

[TheDOCTORdre]

At Swater or snyder or both?

[westTXbest]

If we meet first round people may think it will be a blow out but i promise it wont be.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Oh I'm right with you, I dont see us meeting in the playoffs resulting in a blowout, I know it'll be one heck of a game and we can throw the first meeting out the window because Sweetwater and Greenwood in the playoffs will bring out the very best in both teams and come down to the wire

[lobo12]

snyder says if sweetwater makes it to the fourth round, what makes them so sure that they are gonna be there no matter what. There is no guarantee of what happens in the playoffs

[wildstangs]

We are still arguing about this? All that matters is the final score. Sweetwater is better than Snyder for 2004, unless something amazing happens and the two teams meet in the playoffs. I am not to worried about that yet, as there are several more games, and both teams will have to have some remarkable playoff runs to both make it back to round 4.