Keith7
10-06-2004, 02:43 PM
***DON'T READ UNTIL YOU SEE THE MOVIE THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS FROM THE MOVIE THAT IS MENTIONED THAT COULD "RUIN" THE MOVIE FOR SOME FOLKS SO READ AT YOUR OWN RISK***
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By Jeff Merron
ESPN.com
Everybody's on board.
What is Real about the movie and what is Fiction.. Dont read this if you Dont want to know most of the plot and the ending
ODESSA, FOOTBALL AND THE LIFE
In Reel Life: The Panthers play in a beautiful new stadium.
In Real Life: Some of the football scenes were shot in the stadium that the Panthers played in 1988 and still play in today. It was built in 1982 at a cost of $5.6 million and seats 19,032. Other "home" football games were filmed at Austin's Westlake High School, inside Chaparral Stadium.
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In Reel Life: The team travels by bus to every game.
In Real Life: The team flew by charter jet to at least two away games in 1988: to Marshall, about 500 miles east, and to El Paso, about 280 miles west.
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In Reel Life: Permian (and some of its opponents) have huge marching bands -- they look like they could match most college marchers.
In Real Life: The Midland High School Band was used as a stand-in for the Marshall band, and Permian's current band, with about 100 members, appears in the film. At least three other high school bands also played in the movie.
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In Reel Life: To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, in Permian football's not everything, it's the only thing.
In Real Life: That's one of the major themes running through Bissinger's 1990 book, and he wasn't the only "outsider" to notice how huge football was in Permian in the 1980s. In the Nov. 18, 1985, issue of Time, Gregory Jaynes quoted one Odessa High alumnus as saying, "Nobody wants to hear about our merit scholars or that our chorus went to Wales last year. All they talk about is Permian football."
Jaynes also noted that the local NBC affiliate was so keen on broadcasting the Permian-Midland Lee game that it pre-empted an MLB playoff game and paid each school $4,500 for the broadcast rights. "It was believed to be the first live telecast of a regular-season high school football game in Texas," Jaynes wrote. And, "During the broadcast, you could have fired a cannon down the main streets of either town and not hit a living soul."
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THE COACH AND THE TEAM
In Reel Life: There's talk that Coach Gary Gaines (Billy Bob Thornton) makes $60,000 a year -- more than Permian's principal.
In Real Life: Gaines made $48,000 in 1988, and one of the perks of the job was free use of a new car. By comparison, a Permian teacher with a master's degree and 20 years experience earned $32,000.
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It the movie, Permian coach Gary Gaines (Billy Bob Thornton) meets with Boobie Miles and his uncle, L.V., as Boobie decides to return to the football field.
In Reel Life: Permian's way ahead when Boobie Miles (Derek Luke) gets hurt. Gaines is criticized for leaving Boobie in when the game is locked up -- the implication is that Gaines is to blame for the injury to Boobie.
In Real Life: Gaines was blamed for a lot of things he had no control over, and Boobie's injury, for which he wasn't blamed, seems to be a stand-in.
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In Reel Life: After Permian suffers a huge defeat in the second game of the season, Gaines returns home to find "For Sale" signs planted all around his front lawn.
In Real Life: True. This actually happened. Subtle, huh?
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In Reel Life: The football action looks very authentic.
In Real Life: More than 800 former high school and college football players auditioned to be on a 41-man squad directed by Allan Graf. Prior to filming, they worked out for three weeks and ran about 100 plays based on Permian's 1988 playbook. Graf was the stunt coordinator for "Any Given Sunday," "The Waterboy," "Jerry Maguire," and many other films. One of his first acting gigs was as "Carl" in the 1981 "Mr. Galaxy" episode of "Charlie's Angels."
Back in the day, Graf was the starting guard on USC's 1972 national championship team.
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BOOBIE MILES
In Reel Life: Boobie gets injured in the first game of the season, against Marshall.
In Real Life: Boobie was injured in a preseason scrimmage against the Palo Duro Dons.
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Derek Luke plays Boobie Miles, whose senior season was cut short by a knee injury.In Reel Life: The trainer says it's an ACL tear. An Odessa doctor says he thinks there's a "slight tear" and that Boobie needs an MRI. Finally, with Permian at 6-1 and Chris Comer (Lee Thompson Young) doing great in his place, Boobie goes to a hospital in Midland and tells the doctor his knee isn't getting better. He gets an MRI. The doctor says, "You can't play with that kind of injury."
In Real Life: The first doctor Boobie saw said he had only sprained a ligament. But another doctor said arthroscopic surgery was necessary. Boobie got his knee operated the day before the first game of the season.
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In Reel Life: Bobbie goes nuts when the doctor tells him he can't play. He's out of control with anger at the doctor.
In Real Life: Bobbie did lose it -- but he did so with L.V. (Grover Coulson), his uncle and mentor who he lived with. One night the two had a heated argument that resulted in Boobie moving out.
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In Reel Life: Boobie comes back anyway, telling Coach Gaines that he's fine to play against Midland. The second time Boobie runs the ball in his comeback, he reinjures his knee.
In Real Life: In his first game back, Boobie carried the ball 10 times for 46 yards against Abilene in a 49-0 victory. But Bissinger reported that he was tentative and left the game limping.
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In Reel Life: Boobie cleans out his locker before the playoffs start.
In Real Life: That's exactly what he did. He quit the team.
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In Reel Life: Boobie reconciles with the team and his own disappointment, joining them on the bus to the Astrodome for the state final.
In Real Life: Boobie did not go with the team to any of their postseason games, and listened to the Panthers' last game of the season all by himself in Odessa. "I didn't want to end the story with him alone," director Peter Berg said. "I felt that was too dark."
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Click here for Part 2 (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20345)
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By Jeff Merron
ESPN.com
Everybody's on board.
What is Real about the movie and what is Fiction.. Dont read this if you Dont want to know most of the plot and the ending
ODESSA, FOOTBALL AND THE LIFE
In Reel Life: The Panthers play in a beautiful new stadium.
In Real Life: Some of the football scenes were shot in the stadium that the Panthers played in 1988 and still play in today. It was built in 1982 at a cost of $5.6 million and seats 19,032. Other "home" football games were filmed at Austin's Westlake High School, inside Chaparral Stadium.
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In Reel Life: The team travels by bus to every game.
In Real Life: The team flew by charter jet to at least two away games in 1988: to Marshall, about 500 miles east, and to El Paso, about 280 miles west.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In Reel Life: Permian (and some of its opponents) have huge marching bands -- they look like they could match most college marchers.
In Real Life: The Midland High School Band was used as a stand-in for the Marshall band, and Permian's current band, with about 100 members, appears in the film. At least three other high school bands also played in the movie.
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In Reel Life: To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, in Permian football's not everything, it's the only thing.
In Real Life: That's one of the major themes running through Bissinger's 1990 book, and he wasn't the only "outsider" to notice how huge football was in Permian in the 1980s. In the Nov. 18, 1985, issue of Time, Gregory Jaynes quoted one Odessa High alumnus as saying, "Nobody wants to hear about our merit scholars or that our chorus went to Wales last year. All they talk about is Permian football."
Jaynes also noted that the local NBC affiliate was so keen on broadcasting the Permian-Midland Lee game that it pre-empted an MLB playoff game and paid each school $4,500 for the broadcast rights. "It was believed to be the first live telecast of a regular-season high school football game in Texas," Jaynes wrote. And, "During the broadcast, you could have fired a cannon down the main streets of either town and not hit a living soul."
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THE COACH AND THE TEAM
In Reel Life: There's talk that Coach Gary Gaines (Billy Bob Thornton) makes $60,000 a year -- more than Permian's principal.
In Real Life: Gaines made $48,000 in 1988, and one of the perks of the job was free use of a new car. By comparison, a Permian teacher with a master's degree and 20 years experience earned $32,000.
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It the movie, Permian coach Gary Gaines (Billy Bob Thornton) meets with Boobie Miles and his uncle, L.V., as Boobie decides to return to the football field.
In Reel Life: Permian's way ahead when Boobie Miles (Derek Luke) gets hurt. Gaines is criticized for leaving Boobie in when the game is locked up -- the implication is that Gaines is to blame for the injury to Boobie.
In Real Life: Gaines was blamed for a lot of things he had no control over, and Boobie's injury, for which he wasn't blamed, seems to be a stand-in.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In Reel Life: After Permian suffers a huge defeat in the second game of the season, Gaines returns home to find "For Sale" signs planted all around his front lawn.
In Real Life: True. This actually happened. Subtle, huh?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In Reel Life: The football action looks very authentic.
In Real Life: More than 800 former high school and college football players auditioned to be on a 41-man squad directed by Allan Graf. Prior to filming, they worked out for three weeks and ran about 100 plays based on Permian's 1988 playbook. Graf was the stunt coordinator for "Any Given Sunday," "The Waterboy," "Jerry Maguire," and many other films. One of his first acting gigs was as "Carl" in the 1981 "Mr. Galaxy" episode of "Charlie's Angels."
Back in the day, Graf was the starting guard on USC's 1972 national championship team.
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BOOBIE MILES
In Reel Life: Boobie gets injured in the first game of the season, against Marshall.
In Real Life: Boobie was injured in a preseason scrimmage against the Palo Duro Dons.
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Derek Luke plays Boobie Miles, whose senior season was cut short by a knee injury.In Reel Life: The trainer says it's an ACL tear. An Odessa doctor says he thinks there's a "slight tear" and that Boobie needs an MRI. Finally, with Permian at 6-1 and Chris Comer (Lee Thompson Young) doing great in his place, Boobie goes to a hospital in Midland and tells the doctor his knee isn't getting better. He gets an MRI. The doctor says, "You can't play with that kind of injury."
In Real Life: The first doctor Boobie saw said he had only sprained a ligament. But another doctor said arthroscopic surgery was necessary. Boobie got his knee operated the day before the first game of the season.
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In Reel Life: Bobbie goes nuts when the doctor tells him he can't play. He's out of control with anger at the doctor.
In Real Life: Bobbie did lose it -- but he did so with L.V. (Grover Coulson), his uncle and mentor who he lived with. One night the two had a heated argument that resulted in Boobie moving out.
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In Reel Life: Boobie comes back anyway, telling Coach Gaines that he's fine to play against Midland. The second time Boobie runs the ball in his comeback, he reinjures his knee.
In Real Life: In his first game back, Boobie carried the ball 10 times for 46 yards against Abilene in a 49-0 victory. But Bissinger reported that he was tentative and left the game limping.
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In Reel Life: Boobie cleans out his locker before the playoffs start.
In Real Life: That's exactly what he did. He quit the team.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In Reel Life: Boobie reconciles with the team and his own disappointment, joining them on the bus to the Astrodome for the state final.
In Real Life: Boobie did not go with the team to any of their postseason games, and listened to the Panthers' last game of the season all by himself in Odessa. "I didn't want to end the story with him alone," director Peter Berg said. "I felt that was too dark."
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Click here for Part 2 (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20345)