would u rather have size or speed ????

[Decatur2004]

Would you rather be big or fast? Which makes a better team

[tmac]

its a game of speed id rather be a 5'8 4.3 runnin back than a 6'3 4.8 runnin back.its a question of will also more than size and speed

[cunbed10]

Leon would like both.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Neither matters without endurance, but I would take speed

[PPHSfan]

The ultimate player is Big Fast Strong and Smart. Plays every play like it is his last. Is so agressive that you have to keep him in a cage for the two hours before the game. His favorite position is "anywhere on defense". And he has got to love his momma.:)

[Decatur2004]

Endurance??? The field is 100 yds long.This is not CC. Everyone would like to have a combination of the both ........but would you rather be viewed as a speed based team or a size based team???

[PPHSfan]

Both

[spiveyrat]

To answer the original question...


YES

[IHStangFan]

if i had to choose just one...i'd say speed....a few years back we had a RB that was 5'5" 150lbs who ran a 4.3-40yd...he gained well over 1000 2 or 3 yrs in a row.

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by Decatur2004
Would you rather be big or fast? Which makes a better team


Shawn Bradley...not football but enough said.

[PPHSfan]

I don't know.

If I had eleven kids that were 6'6 and weighed 275 lbs. But could only run 5.0 fortys. I think I could find a way to win with them. But if I had eleven kids that were 5'6 and weighed 150 lbs and and ran 4.4's I think it would be tough to compete.

[Black & Gold]

Speed will get you farther than size will. All the size in the world won't help if you can't catch them.

[gobbler grad]

I would take speed over size

[slpybear the bullfan]

SPEED. And lots of players that have it.

[big daddy russ]

One of the best offensive linemen I've ever seen was 5'9", 190# (it was Jonas, StangFan). Here's a couple of old sayings for you:

It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog....

And speed kills.

[CS_WILDCATS]

I would take speed over size, but most teams that make it deep in the playoffs usually have both.

[CS_WILDCATS]

I would rather have a team with speed but I prefer a team with size - John Kerry

[PPHSfan]

Here is a saying for you too.

You don't have to be able to outrun a Corvette if you can pick it up and throw it down.

[big daddy russ]

You can't pick up what you can't grab.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by CS_WILDCATS
I would rather have a team with speed but I prefer a team with size - John Kerry I AM IHStangFan...and I approve this messege. :D

[BlitzemAll]

I say speed, my wife keeps sayng size...go figure

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by BlitzemAll
I say speed, my wife keeps sayng size...go figure
LOL, that's just wrong.

[Junkyard]

My answer would have to be YES!!! :D

[Phantom Stang]

IMHO small and fast can contain big and slow more often than not.

[Keith7]

SPEED.. look at the 2 teams that won state last year and then rate the fastest teams in 3A last year.. I think you would notice something similar

[Sinton94]

:thinking:
SPEED and lots of it!

SPEED KILLS!
:eek:

[PPHSfan]

The question was about the TEAM.

If I have to choose between ELEVEN big guys, and ELEVEN small fast guys, I would have to go with the size.

Give me eleven 6' 4" to 6' 6" 275lb 5.0 guys, against your ELEVEN 5' 7" 150lb 4.4 guys, and you are never gonna see my side of the line of scrimmage.

[SINTON81]

Speed.....size.....speed.....side. I actually did vote for speed, before I voted against it.:D :D

[Keith7]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
The question was about the TEAM.

If I have to choose between ELEVEN big guys, and ELEVEN small fast guys, I would have to go with the size.

Give me eleven 6' 4" to 6' 6" 275lb 5.0 guys, against your ELEVEN 5' 7" 150lb 4.4 guys, and you are never gonna see my side of the line of scrimmage.

you wanna bet??? the 5'7" guys would be in the back field so quick that your guys would still be in their 3 point stances

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by Keith7
you wanna bet??? the 5'7" guys would be in the back field so quick that your guys would still be in their 3 point stances

What if they were in a two point stance standing shoulder to shoulder?

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
The question was about the TEAM.

If I have to choose between ELEVEN big guys, and ELEVEN small fast guys, I would have to go with the size.

Give me eleven 6' 4" to 6' 6" 275lb 5.0 guys, against your ELEVEN 5' 7" 150lb 4.4 guys, and you are never gonna see my side of the line of scrimmage.


5 flat for that size is pretty dern fast....make it more like 5.5...then we might can debate the point.

[RBARKER]

Looking at the RB position BH has had fast guys that couldn't shake a tackle. When they were hit they went down. On the other hand we have had bigger slower RB's that run over people. I'll take the Big back over the smaller fast one.

[BIGGBROTHER]

id like jason voorhees

good size and no matter how fast you run this guy could walk and catch you

[mustang04]

i'd take size...u can train urelf to become faster, but size is alot harder to gain, height-wise i mean, u dont control how much you grow

[mustang04]

hey hupernikomen, my dad played college and pro-ball, and he ran a 4.64 at 6'5 275 lbs, so thats really movin it for that size

[Keith7]

Originally posted by mustang04
hey hupernikomen, my dad played college and pro-ball, and he ran a 4.64 at 6'5 275 lbs, so thats really movin it for that size

I bet he fished some big fish too :D

[mustang04]

haha....so u dont believe me???

[mustang04]

if u look at my profile, youll see my email address containg my full name, my last name is Ham, and my dads name was Robin

he walked on at West Texas State University, and by his senior year was one of the top offensive linemen out of any college, he was supposed to be one the first linemen picked for the NFL draft, but his last senior game, he tore every single tendon and ligament in his knee from a cheap shot someone got in after the play was over, he went through reconstructive knee surgery by famous orthopedic surgeon Dr. Thurston Dean Sr. and played, but no one was sure if his knee could handle anymore, and trust me, the stats about him i said are accurate because i have every program, newspaper artice, and magazine article written about him while he was playing for the WTSU Buffalos

[mustang04]

oh by the way, heres the web address http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/letter/H

[Keith7]

Originally posted by mustang04
if u look at my profile, youll see my email address containg my full name, my last name is Ham, and my dads name was Robin

he walked on at West Texas State University, and by his senior year was one of the top offensive linemen out of any college, he was supposed to be one the first linemen picked for the NFL draft, but his last senior game, he tore every single tendon and ligament in his knee from a cheap shot someone got in after the play was over, he went through reconstructive knee surgery by famous orthopedic surgeon Dr. Thurston Dean Sr. and played, but no one was sure if his knee could handle anymore, and trust me, the stats about him i said are accurate because i have every program, newspaper artice, and magazine article written about him while he was playing for the WTSU Buffalos

your dad must have had alot of talent.. i know alot of guys (myself included) who weighed 90 pounds less them him and could never run that fast

[mustang04]

he really did, but he didnt get big until college, and plus he used to always dust me when we'd race, but i think the best attribute he had was not his speed/size ratio, but his strength, in college he benched 550lbs, and when he went from greenbay to cleveland he squatted 1000lbs w/ 2 other guys, but they got fined by the coach, i remember when i was in 5th grade i think which made him like 37, i went out to our gym, and "spotted" him when he threw up 420lbs on the bench, and i counted the plates and all to make sure, why couldnt i have gotten his size

[LH Panther Mom]

Definitely size, if I had to choose one.

[bigpimpin]

Speed. A big boy you could just chop. We played Blaine Hill of Gonzales, a huge RB, and we just took out his legs. You can't run over anybody without your legs, and you can't tackle someone you can't catch....nuff said

[mustang04]

trust me, there are guys who have size and can take hits, even in there legs...the QB for Perryton 2 years ago, i cant remember his name, was AWESOME, and i remember going for his legs and nailing them, didnt phase him one bit, and other ppl tried too, he just kept moving them

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Keith7
your dad must have had alot of talent.. i know alot of guys (myself included) who weighed 90 pounds less them him and could never run that fast
A 4.64 would qualify as the fastest guy on a few teams out there. I was pretty fast for an OLB and I ran in the 4.8-4.9 range, depending on the stopwatch.:D

[swatersenior]

Originally posted by mustang04
trust me, there are guys who have size and can take hits, even in there legs...the QB for Perryton 2 years ago, i cant remember his name, was AWESOME, and i remember going for his legs and nailing them, didnt phase him one bit, and other ppl tried too, he just kept moving them

You also have to give that guy alil more credit cuz he was really freakin fast too i remember watchin that game and that guy could run w/ the best of them

[mustang04]

exactly, which is my point, i'd rather have size, cuz u can work-out and do things to make urself faster, but u can only get as big as ur body allows, i just wish i was about 3 inches taller

[Keith7]

well Gainesville definently did not have size last year and were built around speed and they won state, same thing with atlatnta.. if Size is so great then i want you guys to explain to me how the big guys let that happened

[Titans]

Don't want speed.

Endurance isn't a problem either

It's all good:eek:

[mustang04]

good point, out team last year, and the mustangs this year were and are small, especially the linemen, but i'd still like to have size

[handNthedirt]

I'll ask my girlfriend...get back to ya later!

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by mustang04
exactly, which is my point, i'd rather have size, cuz u can work-out and do things to make urself faster, but u can only get as big as ur body allows, i just wish i was about 3 inches taller
Do you really think you can train a 5.0 to run a 4.5? You can only squeeze so much speed out of a ballplayer.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Do you really think you can train a 5.0 to run a 4.5? You can only squeeze so much speed out of a ballplayer. dont squeeze TOO hard...he might shite on ya. ;)

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Do you really think you can train a 5.0 to run a 4.5? You can only squeeze so much speed out of a ballplayer.

You can train a 5.0 to run a 4.5 a lot easier than you can train a 5' 7" 150lb kid to be 6' 4" 260 :D

[mustang04]

took the words right out of my mouth....

[thatboy]

Speed because MADDEN says "speed kills".

[mustang04]

oh yeah, really good reason:p

[Keith7]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
You can train a 5.0 to run a 4.5 a lot easier than you can train a 5' 7" 150lb kid to be 6' 4" 260 :D


How would the great PPHSFan explain this:


Originally posted by Keith7
well Gainesville definently did not have size last year and were built around speed and they won state, same thing with atlatnta.. if Size is so great then i want you guys to explain to me how the big guys let that happened

[HighSchool Fan]

Keith7, how big was Gainesville's DE last year, I forget his name, but he also played WR.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
Keith7, how big was Gainesville's DE last year, I forget his name, but he also played WR.

Amos Berryman?

He was about 5'9" 160...

he was also state powerlifting champion

[HighSchool Fan]

I think that is him. He wasn't very big, but he could get by the lineman. Wasn't he the powerlifting champion in his weight division?

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Keith7
Amos Berryman?

He was about 5'9" 160...

he was also state powerlifting champion

yeah.. i updated what i originally said after you posted that oops... but he was quick and went upagainst some big dudes!

[LHMom]

Both!!!!!!! Oh Heart is pretty important also!

[bigpimpin]

What you run in the 40 doesn't always translate to speed on the field.

[sinton66]

In this discussion, one name comes to mind......... Earl Campbell.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
You can train a 5.0 to run a 4.5 a lot easier than you can train a 5' 7" 150lb kid to be 6' 4" 260 :D
High heels and lead shoulder pads.

[Rocksolid]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
You can train a 5.0 to run a 4.5 a lot easier than you can train a 5' 7" 150lb kid to be 6' 4" 260 :D
Enough Said

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Keith7
well Gainesville definently did not have size last year and were built around speed and they won state, same thing with atlatnta.. if Size is so great then i want you guys to explain to me how the big guys let that happened

enough said

[Rocksolid]

No one said a bunch of little fast guys couldn't win state but if i had a team full of 6'4 220/250lb monsters i've been training for six years i much rather have that than a bunch of 5'7 oompa loompa's

[Flourhead]

i dont really know much about football but i think it would be better to have a lot 5'7" guys that could run 4.2's so the big fat guys could never catch them

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Rocksolid
No one said a bunch of little fast guys couldn't win state but if i had a team full of 6'4 220/250lb monsters i've been training for six years i much rather have that than a bunch of 5'7 oompa loompa's

So you would rather have Big guys that cant win state then little guys that would win state??? i guess for some people image is everything

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Rocksolid
No one said a bunch of little fast guys couldn't win state but if i had a team full of 6'4 220/250lb monsters i've been training for six years i much rather have that than a bunch of 5'7 oompa loompa's
Okie dokie. I'll take Gainesville, or Everman before them.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Flourhead
i dont really know much about football but i think it would be better to have a lot 5'7" guys that could run 4.2's so the big fat guys could never catch them

good point.. these big guys cant pick up and carry the ball carrier into the endzone for a safety every play so with out speed all the big guys can do is contain them..

I think to really end this conversation is what kinda offense do you run?? if you run a spread offense of course your gonna want the little fast dudes.. but if you are an outdated old school power football team then take the big sluggish guys

[Flourhead]

i choose barry sanders and whoever else u wanna give me so i stay under the salary cap

[Bandera YaYa]

Originally posted by Decatur2004
Would you rather be big or fast? Heh..heh..heh.....now do you REALLY want me to answer this one ?????? :eek: :eek: :D