Barbers Hill Vs. West Orange Stark

[chaingang]

This is to see what people think of a virtual matchup between Barbers Hill and WOS. Comments would be welcomed. :nerd:

[JasperDog94]

Sorry BH, but this is no contest.

[Bulldog_12]

Yeah, Im with J-dog on this one. Not a very good chance for BH. Sorry. But thats just my opinion.

[ej2525]

BH = No chance agaist WO-S

[3rdone]

why do we need a poll to figure this out in the 1st place?

[PPHSfan]

HMMMM read this (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=198989#post198989)

[chaingang]

Originally posted by 3rdone
why do we need a poll to figure this out in the 1st place?

Just for kicks and giggles:D

[Jody]

WOS has a weak schedule. Sorry WOS fans, I used to live in Orange, but BH has already proven to me to be a better team than Jasper or WOS. Just ask Dibol come Sept. 18th.

[exbccards76'smom]

WOS in this one.

[Goldenstick]

Stupid Thread!!!!!!!

[eagle.eyes]

First of all, I would never guarantee a victory over anyone. Maybe when I was in high school and smarter than my parents I would have, such as you chaingang. But one thing I can guarantee you, WOS may win, but BH would NEVER lay over for WOS like you expect people to do. I can assure you Jasper is not the only 3A that can play ball. For you to continue to thump your own chest is mere stupidity!

[Backwoods]

How does mere stupidity compare with gross stupidity? WOS or Jasper over BH.:D :rolleyes:

[RBARKER]

WOS will beat anyone in the state by atleast 60. How can little ole BH even think about playing on the same field as a team that couldn't make the playoffs in the last 3 years in 4A. Yall are the best.

Don't let the polls go to your head boys

[setex]

Agree

[WOS92]

Weak schedule? That's a joke! We played the former #1 in 3a, the current #1 in 4a, a top 20 4a team and will play a top 10 2a team and a 4a playoff team from last year.

I'm glad they've "proven to be" better than Jasper or WO-S. You wouldn't happen to be biased, would you? :rolleyes:

[WOS1]

Originally posted by WOS92
Weak schedule? That's a joke! We played the former #1 in 3a, the current #1 in 4a, a top 20 4a team and will play a top 10 2a team and a 4a playoff team from last year.

I'm glad they've "proven to be" better than Jasper or WO-S. You wouldn't happen to be biased, would you? :rolleyes:

T, before you get to pissed at these responses, go back and see what chaingang has been posting today and it will make sense. He's been doing some serious "gum bumping" today!:rolleyes:

[Old Green]

This is a darn good discussion.:clap:

[Eagles52]

pretending that the prospective matchup could occur (which would only happen if Huffman falls flat on its face and doesnt make the playoffs), WOS is probably the better team, but I know that BH would play them a much harder and closer game than most ppl would want to give us credit for and we would not go down easily, but WOS is a great team and would take a perfect game on our side to pull of a huge upset

[Bulldog_12]

wait wait wait. i wanna know how Jasper got pulled into this. Could some people be harboring bitterness? hmmmm. I think so.

[Hupernikomen]

Has anyone seen these two teams play this year besides me?

I personally think this would be a very close game. Both of them have excellent defenses, with WO-S improving every week. I think BH could move the ball a bit on WO-S but just don't think they could score more than 2 TDS. WO-S' offense would have to really be clicking to score much against a very good BH defense. I would say 21-14 WO-S from what I have seen.

[PPHSfan]

If you want to see another good 3a team in action. Take a trip up to watch Gilmer play Paris this Saturday. I think anyone who has not seen Gilmer play will be most impressed.

[Decatur2004]

I want Decatur to play WO-S............

[Decatur2004]

it was off topic, random and kinda dumb but i really want that game to take place.. sry for the thought

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
If you want to see another good 3a team in action. Take a trip up to watch Gilmer play Paris this Saturday. I think anyone who has not seen Gilmer play will be most impressed.

Gilmer is kinda under the radar screen this year it seems, whereas last year they were the cat's meow...why would they not be highly ranked with those two studs running the show?

They must of lost a lot of talent, or the voters were letdown by their playoff performance last year.

[Jody]

This came off the Texas high school coaches association web site. This was compiled from all the 3A teams state wide. Sorry for the format, this was a paste job.

HMMM.....No WSO or Japer here....interesting. Wow, no Manor, no Burnett, no Dibol, geez.......how can that be? They all are ranked teams.......maybe the ranking system is just plain bias....wasn't that the word used?

Just more to ponder......

Team Offense
School Games Total Average
Sanger HS 4 1706 426.5
Liberty Hill HS 3 1531 510.3
Hutto HS 3 1216 405.3
Brady HS 3 1124 374.7
Barbers Hill High School 3 1008 336.0
La Feria HS 3 922 307.3
Pecos HS 3 899 299.7
Wylie HS 2 894 447.0
Sweetwater High School 3 887 295.7
Bowie HS 3 868 289.3

Rush Offense
School Games Total Average
Liberty Hill HS 3 1431 477.0
Sanger HS 4 1101 275.3
Hutto HS 3 1095 365.0
Brady HS 3 866 288.7
Sweetwater High School 3 768 256.0
La Feria HS 3 746 248.7
Barbers Hill High School 3 683 227.7
Bowie HS 3 623 207.7
Pecos HS 3 618 206.0
Bandera High School 3 601 200.3

Pass Offense
School Games Total Average
Sanger HS 4 605 151.3
Wharton HS 2 570 285.0
Glen Rose HS 2 568 284.0
Borger HS 3 503 167.7
Wylie HS 2 450 225.0
Llano HS 2 374 187.0
Canton HS 1 369 369.0
Barbers Hill High School 3 342 114.0
Castleberry HS 2 329 164.5
Monahans HS 2 302 151.0

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by Eagles52
pretending that the prospective matchup could occur (which would only happen if Huffman falls flat on its face and doesnt make the playoffs), WOS is probably the better team, but I know that BH would play them a much harder and closer game than most ppl would want to give us credit for and we would not go down easily, but WOS is a great team and would take a perfect game on our side to pull of a huge upset

Ditto :D

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by Hupernikomen
Has anyone seen these two teams play this year besides me?

I personally think this would be a very close game. Both of them have excellent defenses, with WO-S improving every week. I think BH could move the ball a bit on WO-S but just don't think they could score more than 2 TDS. WO-S' offense would have to really be clicking to score much against a very good BH defense. I would say 21-14 WO-S from what I have seen.

Thanks for your Input Hupernik. You are probaly the only one that has seen both teams play. Interesting observation.

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by Jody
This came off the Texas high school coaches association web site. This was compiled from all the 3A teams state wide. Sorry for the format, this was a paste job.

HMMM.....No WSO or Japer here....interesting. Wow, no Manor, no Burnett, no Dibol, geez.......how can that be? They all are ranked teams.......maybe the ranking system is just plain bias....wasn't that the word used?

Just more to ponder......

Team Offense
School Games Total Average
Sanger HS 4 1706 426.5
Liberty Hill HS 3 1531 510.3
Hutto HS 3 1216 405.3
Brady HS 3 1124 374.7
Barbers Hill High School 3 1008 336.0
La Feria HS 3 922 307.3
Pecos HS 3 899 299.7
Wylie HS 2 894 447.0
Sweetwater High School 3 887 295.7
Bowie HS 3 868 289.3

Rush Offense
School Games Total Average
Liberty Hill HS 3 1431 477.0
Sanger HS 4 1101 275.3
Hutto HS 3 1095 365.0
Brady HS 3 866 288.7
Sweetwater High School 3 768 256.0
La Feria HS 3 746 248.7
Barbers Hill High School 3 683 227.7
Bowie HS 3 623 207.7
Pecos HS 3 618 206.0
Bandera High School 3 601 200.3

Pass Offense
School Games Total Average
Sanger HS 4 605 151.3
Wharton HS 2 570 285.0
Glen Rose HS 2 568 284.0
Borger HS 3 503 167.7
Wylie HS 2 450 225.0
Llano HS 2 374 187.0
Canton HS 1 369 369.0
Barbers Hill High School 3 342 114.0
Castleberry HS 2 329 164.5
Monahans HS 2 302 151.0

Interesting :thinking: who is this Sanger Team?

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by RBARKER
Thanks for your Input Hupernik. You are probaly the only one that has seen both teams play. Interesting observation.


Heck I could be totally wrong and it be a blowout either way...the game is all about executing, minimizing mistakes, and making the most out of your opponents blunders. BH does all 3 of those things well and will not be an easy win for any opponent. WO-S is just flat talented and very well coached too. I sure hope this game happens and that Jasper has a game too far away for me to drive to that week.

[chaingang]

Originally posted by Jody
This came off the Texas high school coaches association web site. This was compiled from all the 3A teams state wide. Sorry for the format, this was a paste job.

HMMM.....No WSO or Japer here....interesting. Wow, no Manor, no Burnett, no Dibol, geez.......how can that be? They all are ranked teams.......maybe the ranking system is just plain bias....wasn't that the word used?

Just more to ponder......

Team Offense
School Games Total Average
Sanger HS 4 1706 426.5
Liberty Hill HS 3 1531 510.3
Hutto HS 3 1216 405.3
Brady HS 3 1124 374.7
Barbers Hill High School 3 1008 336.0
La Feria HS 3 922 307.3
Pecos HS 3 899 299.7
Wylie HS 2 894 447.0
Sweetwater High School 3 887 295.7
Bowie HS 3 868 289.3

Rush Offense
School Games Total Average
Liberty Hill HS 3 1431 477.0
Sanger HS 4 1101 275.3
Hutto HS 3 1095 365.0
Brady HS 3 866 288.7
Sweetwater High School 3 768 256.0
La Feria HS 3 746 248.7
Barbers Hill High School 3 683 227.7
Bowie HS 3 623 207.7
Pecos HS 3 618 206.0
Bandera High School 3 601 200.3

Pass Offense
School Games Total Average
Sanger HS 4 605 151.3
Wharton HS 2 570 285.0
Glen Rose HS 2 568 284.0
Borger HS 3 503 167.7
Wylie HS 2 450 225.0
Llano HS 2 374 187.0
Canton HS 1 369 369.0
Barbers Hill High School 3 342 114.0
Castleberry HS 2 329 164.5
Monahans HS 2 302 151.0

Look who you have played. Look who we have played. And Jasper and who ever else you have mentioned.:doh:

[chaingang]

Originally posted by eagle.eyes
First of all, I would never guarantee a victory over anyone. Maybe when I was in high school and smarter than my parents I would have, such as you chaingang. But one thing I can guarantee you, WOS may win, but BH would NEVER lay over for WOS like you expect people to do. I can assure you Jasper is not the only 3A that can play ball. For you to continue to thump your own chest is mere stupidity!

tst tst tst...... Interesting, I guess people on this board cant debate without down talking people. If you knew me then I wouldnt care, but you my friend are the one who needs to grow up. And by the way Ive been out of HS and my parents house for a while.;)

[BlueBlood]

Crap! I though we would play out our schedule and try to go a little ways in the playoffs. Since we are going to get smoked in the first round by the football gods of the golden triangle I say we just shut down the season and get on with the other sports. I guess we can go ahead and play Diboll on Friday (a sure win for Diboll because I'm sure the BH boys have lost heart after all this playoff info has been mentioned). Oh well, yall can have a good laugh at our expense after the Diboll loss. I can hear it now--BH was never any good--what a joke BH was--WOS will beat them by 150 points. We'll just lick our wounds are get on with the other sports and see if we have a chance. What a shock to the BH community (and we really wanted to play TGOTGT in the first round). Bummer!

[3rdone]

Originally posted by Hupernikomen
Has anyone seen these two teams play this year besides me?

I personally think this would be a very close game. Both of them have excellent defenses, with WO-S improving every week. I think BH could move the ball a bit on WO-S but just don't think they could score more than 2 TDS. WO-S' offense would have to really be clicking to score much against a very good BH defense. I would say 21-14 WO-S from what I have seen.

Nederlands defense...WAYYY BETTER than BH. WOS by 4 td's....there is a reason WOS doesn't schedule BH... you guys on this board are so delusional. For some reason BH has got this thing that they can play with WOS. If WOSA was still 4A noone from BH would be making that claim. Just because they dropped in classification doesn't mean they have dropped in talent WOS would make the playoffs in 4A. They were on the ouside looking in last yr because of a 3 way tie for 2nd, and lost on a pt system.
whatever, I'm done you guys debate it............................:rolleyes:

[Pigskin 2004]

As an outsider looking in, it appears to me that a lot of people can't stand WO-S or Jasper. I don't like them much either but this is getting ridiculous. Jody, Your posts have shown nothing short of ignorance! You take your little old BH Eagles and go play Jasper, Nederland and BayCity and see how many total yards of offense ya'll compile. That could easily be 2 shutouts if not three. And it would certainly compute to an 0-3 record without a doubt. Rankings mean nothing and stats mean about as little to me. You cannot predict what two good teams will do against each other based on stats, rankings, or anything else; except for what takes place on the field. And as for the little smart a$$ comment made about BH definitely does not have a chance against a team that has not made the playoffs in 3 years, BH probably would not have a playoff appearance period, playing in that tough 4A district!! You can get pissed at me if you want, but I am tired of all the hating on Jasper and WO-S and I am going to take up for them even if they whip my local team's a$$. It is not their fault that they have great football programs.

[Pigskin 2004]

Blue Blood, you are taking this out of context. They will not even meet in the playoffs. And please show me where someone told you to cancel your season and that WO-S would win by 150. Boy, ya'll can't stand school's that are filled with tradition and greatness. One word can wrap this thread up: JEALOUSY!!!!

[3rdone]

Originally posted by Pigskin 2004
As an outsider looking in, it appears to me that a lot of people can't stand WO-S or Jasper. I don't like them much either but this is getting ridiculous. Jody, Your posts have shown nothing short of ignorance! You take your little old BH Eagles and go play Jasper, Nederland and BayCity and see how many total yards of offense ya'll compile. That could easily be 2 shutouts if not three. And it would certainly compute to an 0-3 record without a doubt. Rankings mean nothing and stats mean about as little to me. You cannot predict what two good teams will do against each other based on stats, rankings, or anything else; except for what takes place on the field. And as for the little smart a$$ comment made about BH definitely does not have a chance against a team that has not made the playoffs in 3 years, BH probably would not have a playoff appearance period, playing in that tough 4A district!! You can get pissed at me if you want, but I am tired of all the hating on Jasper and WO-S and I am going to take up for them even if they whip my local team's a$$. It is not their fault that they have great football programs.


WOW!!!!!!!!!!! That was good!

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by Pigskin 2004
...... You take your little old BH Eagles and go play Jasper, Nederland and BayCity and see how many total yards of offense ya'll compile. That could easily be 2 shutouts if not three. And it would certainly compute to an 0-3 record without a doubt. Rankings mean nothing and stats mean about as little to me. You cannot predict what two good teams will do against each other based on stats, rankings, or anything else; except for what takes place on the field. ......

So are you saying that HE can't make a prediction...but YOU can?

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by Pigskin 2004
As an outsider looking in, it appears to me that a lot of people can't stand WO-S or Jasper. I don't like them much either but this is getting ridiculous. Jody, Your posts have shown nothing short of ignorance! You take your little old BH Eagles and go play Jasper, Nederland and BayCity and see how many total yards of offense ya'll compile. That could easily be 2 shutouts if not three. And it would certainly compute to an 0-3 record without a doubt. Rankings mean nothing and stats mean about as little to me. You cannot predict what two good teams will do against each other based on stats, rankings, or anything else; except for what takes place on the field. And as for the little smart a$$ comment made about BH definitely does not have a chance against a team that has not made the playoffs in 3 years, BH probably would not have a playoff appearance period, playing in that tough 4A district!! You can get pissed at me if you want, but I am tired of all the hating on Jasper and WO-S and I am going to take up for them even if they whip my local team's a$$. It is not their fault that they have great football programs.

No one is hating on WOS. I have stated as well as others that WOS has a great team. All of this talk has been started by one WOS poster. This same discussion started when Jasper dropped down and many Jasper posters who are not with us anymore got here and told the world that they were going to skip through 3A and beat everyone. In two more years we will have another 4A drop down that will be on here boasting how good there team is. If WOS or Jasper wins a state trophy this year or any other year to come they will be congradulated, But to claim dominance in week 3 is a little silly.

[hsfootballrules]

Looking at this game WOS should probably win yes..........saying that it would be closer than you think........A very good WOS team last year beat a young Vidor team by 3pts last year and saying that WOS had a great running back that went to A&M......one year later BH goes to Vidor with alot of returning starters and almost beats them by 3 td's.......i know there is a difference in a year but that tells me this would not be a blowout by all means.....I have seen WOS play and I dont think they play hard for 48 minutes.......But I think both teams should probably worry about who they are playing then look at what MIGHT HAPPEN

[Pigskin 2004]

Not at all, He is more than welcome to make a prediction. Just as anyone else is!!:D :D

[3rdone]

Originally posted by hsfootballrules
Looking at this game WOS should probably win yes..........saying that it would be closer than you think........A very good WOS team last year beat a young Vidor team by 3pts last year and saying that WOS had a great running back that went to A&M......one year later BH goes to Vidor with alot of returning starters and almost beats them by 3 td's.......i know there is a difference in a year but that tells me this would not be a blowout by all means.....I have seen WOS play and I dont think they play hard for 48 minutes.......But I think both teams should probably worry about who they are playing then look at what MIGHT HAPPEN

That is true too. I for one was impressed with their win over Vidor.
I just don't think they would match up well with WOS. it is all about match ups

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by Pigskin 2004
Not at all, He is more than welcome to make a prediction. Just as anyone else is!!:D :D

Well you slammed him for doing the same thing you did.

[Jody]

I am certainly not saying WOS and Jasper are not good teams. As for that matter, there are not many bad teams in that whole side of the state. I just think they are both over-rated this year. They are not the only ones, trust me. Manor is another.....just wait till a very good Liberty Hill team gets done with them this Friday.

There are also a few sleeers out there. I think BH is in that catagory considering the polsters seem to be bias and worried more about history instead of current and projected performance.

My projection that BH would be either team (WOS or Jasper) is based on their current performance and a BH team that is simply much better.

BH 24 WOS 14
BH 28 Jasper 10

It's just a theroetical post right? History has not determined Einstein to be an "idiot" for his theories. Where is the love?

[Pigskin 2004]

You could be right!! BH might be able to beat both of them. I have been seeing the results of the BH games and I think that they will do very well this year. The game against Anahuac was impressive. Nowhere have I said that WO-S or Jasper would beat BH. I just said that you can't go by the stats because teams play at different levels of competition in preseason, that is not saying one has a better chance than the others, just that stats cannot be used to determine. I think right now I would definitely have all three of these teams in my top ten in no certain order. According to what I have seen, it is not probable that we will ever see a BH vs. WO-S matchup, as BH will be DII and WO-S will be DI. But we will probably see a BH vs. Jasper matchup in the DII Region 3 playoffs and it should be a good one to watch.

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by Jody
I am certainly not saying WOS and Jasper are not good teams. As for that matter, there are not many bad teams in that whole side of the state. I just think they are both over-rated this year. They are not the only ones, trust me. Manor is another.....just wait till a very good Liberty Hill team gets done with them this Friday.

There are also a few sleeers out there. I think BH is in that catagory considering the polsters seem to be bias and worried more about history instead of current and projected performance.

My projection that BH would be either team (WOS or Jasper) is based on their current performance and a BH team that is simply much better.

BH 24 WOS 14
BH 28 Jasper 10

It's just a theroetical post right? History has not determined Einstein to be an "idiot" for his theories. Where is the love?

I have seen all 3 teams in question play this year. And although I don't agree with you predictions you certainly can pontificate with the rest of us. In all seriousness, I think that Jasper would shut out BH and that WO-S could muster enough offense to beat them as well. BH is very solid and very well might come done to a game of fewest costily mistakes. BH wasn't that good last year compared to previous years and they almost beat the team that almost beat Jasper...so who knows who is the best at this point.

One thing is for sure if these 3 teams are as good as all of us fans think they are we will see BH and one of those two teams play in a playoff game. That is the only way to settle things afterall...playing the game.

Good luck to all three teams I admire all 3 programs.

[JasperDog94]

Is BH for sure D2?

[BlueBlood]

What difference does it make JasperDog. BH can not play with Jasper or WOS. Just a bump in the road for you guys. I'm sure Manor would say that your defense, for example, is way better than the Hill's.

[Hupernikomen]

oh man..I didn't realize that Huffman had passed up BH in attendance in the lastest realignment.

So WOS/BH probably won't happen. Jasper/BH is a more likely setup.

If Huffman makes the playoffs (and I am 95% certain they will) BH will be D-II.

If Silsbee makes the playoffs (I'd say 85% chance) Jasper will be Div. II.

[Hupernikomen]

If they both win their respective district they will play in the regional finals (if they make it that far). If either comes in 2nd or 3rd then they play in the second round.

[WOS1]

Originally posted by RBARKER
No one is hating on WOS. I have stated as well as others that WOS has a great team. All of this talk has been started by one WOS poster. This same discussion started when Jasper dropped down and many Jasper posters who are not with us anymore got here and told the world that they were going to skip through 3A and beat everyone. In two more years we will have another 4A drop down that will be on here boasting how good there team is. If WOS or Jasper wins a state trophy this year or any other year to come they will be congradulated, But to claim dominance in week 3 is a little silly.

I said I wasn't going to get involved in this pi$$ing match he has started , but I have to address this.

NO ONE (from WO-S except maybe Ty) has claimed dominance over 3A. chaingang does imply dominance over BH, but BH does not encompass all of 3A. I don't know why some of you guys are hell bent on trying to make us look like we're taking 3A for granted. Nice try, but it ain't workin. :hand:

I do not agree with his thoughts on a BH vs WO-S match up, but don't blow his lack of respect for BH out of proportion.

[3rdone]

so if we are all speculating, then BH will give Bay City, 4A #1 a run for its money? And to top it all off, Knock of Nederland? This is directed to the person that gave the nod to BH if they played WOS or Jasper. :eek:

[Supertilley]

All of the BH predictions over wo-s. So make me laugh with your thoughts on the score of a BH vs. Bay City game. Please I have to know!

[3rdone]

I just think they are both over-rated this year.

BH 24 WOS 14
BH 28 Jasper 10

It's just a theroetical post right? History has not determined Einstein to be an "idiot" for his theories. Where is the love? [/B][/QUOTE]

WHY???????????? I HAVE TO KNOW

[3rdone]

Originally posted by Supertilley
All of the BH predictions over wo-s. So make me laugh with your thoughts on the score of a BH vs. Bay City game. Please I have to know!


I guess I am going with Bay City 14 BH 13

Barbers Hill goes for 2 to win and fumble the snap:D

[WOS1]

Originally posted by hsfootballrules
Looking at this game WOS should probably win yes..........saying that it would be closer than you think........A very good WOS team last year beat a young Vidor team by 3pts last year and saying that WOS had a great running back that went to A&M......one year later BH goes to Vidor with alot of returning starters and almost beats them by 3 td's.......i know there is a difference in a year but that tells me this would not be a blowout by all means.....I have seen WOS play and I dont think they play hard for 48 minutes.......But I think both teams should probably worry about who they are playing then look at what MIGHT HAPPEN

I have no problem with your predictions about a BH victory over WO-S. That is your opinion and I respect that. I also happen to think that BH is a much better team than people are giving them credit for. But, don't kid yourself about Vidor. Last year was supposed to be "their year" with 9 back on offense and 5 on defense including 3 year starters Rick Culver (3rd place in district 100 meters) and Troy Maines. they were expecting a run for the playoffs, but it didn't pan out. No, they are nowhere near as good this year as they were last year. They only have 3 back on offense from last years team and were expecting to be down early on. Be proud of your teams accomplishments, but don't make things up about the opponents you've played, especially not our old district mates.

I'm also kind of doubting when you saw us play, which game was it? We are built on playing for 48 minutes and I think most of the fans here who HAVE actually seen us play will tell you the direct opposite of what you stated in your post.

[bhillfan]

BH is a solid team this year that is not getting a lot of credit they deserve but that happens. Last years team had a good defense that if you look at stats on points allowed, yardage, interceptions and whatever, they were one of the leaders in the state. The defense was ranked 4th in the state. BUT they didnt have an offense that produced anywhere near the caliber that they are doing this year and that is where the turnaround is. The boys from BH dont quit and are disciplined and that creates a good team as well.

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by WOS1
I said I wasn't going to get involved in this pi$$ing match he has started , but I have to address this.

NO ONE (from WO-S except maybe Ty) has claimed dominance over 3A. chaingang does imply dominance over BH, but BH does not encompass all of 3A. I don't know why some of you guys are hell bent on trying to make us look like we're taking 3A for granted. Nice try, but it ain't workin. :hand:

I do not agree with his thoughts on a BH vs WO-S match up, but don't blow his lack of respect for BH out of proportion.

Well in another thread he said he would rank BH number 10 or 11, and then he said that WO-S would domintate BH. So it is easy to read him as saying WO-S would dominate 3A. He also said W0-S was a top three team, and the disparity between the top 3 and the rest of the top 10 was not even close. It sure sounds to me like domination. But on the same hand, he is one of only a handfull that seem to think that way.

[3rdone]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Well in another thread he said he would rank BH number 10 or 11, and then he said that WO-S would domintate BH. So it is easy to read him as saying WO-S would dominate 3A. He also said W0-S was a top three team, and the disparity between the top 3 and the rest of the top 10 was not even close. It sure sounds to me like domination. But on the same hand, he is one of only a handfull that seem to think that way.

Of course you guys are going to have your pride and stick up for your teams and that is great. I just want a list of teams that think they can beat WOS and reasons why................... I am not trying to downplay anyone. Just want some validation.... I dont' want to hear... "We beat a Bible study flag football team by 40pts and threw for 980 yards so I think we can beat WOS..." I want to hear from the ones that at least have put some thought into it

[PPHSfan]

I would say that at least half of the teams in 3A are cabable of beating WO-S. Do I think half of them would? NO. But I think at least half of them are capable. Let me ask you a question?

The WO-S players are 16-18 year old kids, just like they are everywhere else right? I mean, they aren't 24 year old men disguised as teenagers right? So with that being said. Anytime you put too much stock in what you think 16-18 year old kids are gonna do week in and week out, you're asking for trouble. I guarantee you, that no matter how great your coaching staff is, a couple of cheerleaders can ruin you on any given week, by what they do in math class on Tuesday morning. And if you don't believe that, you need to take some phsyc classes.

[3rdone]

35% of the people voting are dead wrong

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
I guarantee you, that no matter how great your coaching staff is, a couple of cheerleaders can ruin you on any given week, by what they do in math class on Tuesday morning. And if you don't believe that, you need to take so phsyc classes. I've got it!!! PPHSfan is Harry Carry reincarnated!!!:D :D :D

[3rdone]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
I would say that at least half of the teams in 3A are cabable of beating WO-S. Do I think half of them would? NO. But I think at least half of them are capable. Let me ask you a question?

The WO-S players are 16-18 year old kids, just like they are everywhere else right? I mean, they aren't 24 year old men disguised as teenagers right? So with that being said. Anytime you put too much stock in what you think 16-18 year old kids are gonna do week in and week out, you're asking for trouble. I guarantee you, that no matter how great your coaching staff is, a couple of cheerleaders can ruin you on any given week, by what they do in math class on Tuesday morning. And if you don't believe that, you need to take so phsyc classes.

That's just it...half the teams can't beat WOS

[chaingang]

Originally posted by RBARKER
No one is hating on WOS. I have stated as well as others that WOS has a great team. All of this talk has been started by one WOS poster. This same discussion started when Jasper dropped down and many Jasper posters who are not with us anymore got here and told the world that they were going to skip through 3A and beat everyone. In two more years we will have another 4A drop down that will be on here boasting how good there team is. If WOS or Jasper wins a state trophy this year or any other year to come they will be congradulated, But to claim dominance in week 3 is a little silly.

Let me make it a little more clear. Who said dominance? Desperate for words? I said BH could not hang with WOS.:hand:
Just in case you didnt understand. BH could not hang with WOS.
Thanks.:D

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by chaingang
Let me make it a little more clear. Who said dominance? Desperate for words? I said BH could not hang with WOS.:hand:
Just in case you didnt understand. BH could not hang with WOS.
Thanks.:D

chaingang, as PPHSFAN stated earlier you siad in an earlier post that you would rank BH 10 or 11. Then you stated that BH would get killed by WOS. From reading this statement it seems that if you think WOS would beat BH to death then everyone below #10 in the state can't hang with WOS. Sounds like DOMINANCE to me:D

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by Supertilley
All of the BH predictions over wo-s. So make me laugh with your thoughts on the score of a BH vs. Bay City game. Please I have to know!

BH 7
Bay city 17

:D :D :D :D :D

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by RBARKER
BH 7
Bay city 17

:D :D :D :D :D



Oh boy...

RBarker let me ask your opinion on a few matters...

Some think that WO-S and maybe Jasper (although I don't think Jasper schedules as tough as WO-S) have a much tougher preseason schedule than BH. I think if you look over the last few years. it is true you don't see any highly ranked opponents on BH schedule in the preseason (and certainly not in district though no fault of their own). At least I can't remember any highly ranked teams they have played.

Now to the questions...do you feel the lack of playing tougher predisictrict opponents causes some of the "lack of respect" toward BH by those who make the polls?....

do you feel that BH is at a disadvantage when the playoffs roll around because they haven't had the experience of being pushed around themselves some?...

now I dare to say this and could be entirely wrong but, do you feel BH puts more stock into going 10-0 than in truly preparing themselves for the deepest run in the playoffs as possible by schedule tough opponents like WO-S, Bay City, LaMarque, Texas City (why wouldn't they play Dayton?)? When was the last time they played a game against a ranked opponent that wasn't during a playoff game?

I know those coaches are under tremendous pressure to win there and I think it could have a bit of bearing who they call to make games with, but I admit I could be way off here.

Personally I think BH would greatly benefit from a predistrict game or two against a team that has a shot of beating the snot out of them if they don't play their best, and I DO think BH could compete with the likes of BC and would gladly travel to watch that game.

[WOS92]

:clap:

[chaingang]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Well in another thread he said he would rank BH number 10 or 11, and then he said that WO-S would domintate BH. So it is easy to read him as saying WO-S would dominate 3A. He also said W0-S was a top three team, and the disparity between the top 3 and the rest of the top 10 was not even close. It sure sounds to me like domination. But on the same hand, he is one of only a handfull that seem to think that way.



Give it up pp. Dont try and assume what I said or what I meant. Personally I really dont care what you think because all you do is rock the boat on this board anyway. PROVE where I said we would dominate 3A. And I dont mean coming up with lame formulas about I said this and i said that and #3 is better then#10 so he meant this CRAP. I SAID WE WOULD DOMINATE BARBERS HILL. AGAIN THAT IS MY OPINION!:doh: :hand:

[chaingang]

And by the way. IMO Jasper would dominate BH.




Disclaimer: I did not mean Jasper would dominate all 3A schools.:hand:



Later:D

[PPHSfan]

I really don't care what your opinion is one way or the other. I asked you a couple of times on the other thread to make yourself clear, and I thought you had. I also saw where one of your own friends tried to call you on it. I don't care if you think your team could dominate 5A for that matter. I was just trying to make sure I understood what you WERE trying to say. And as far as what I do or don't do, I would appreciate it if you wouldn't try to stereotype me as some kind of instigator. If you want to spend a few days reading all of my contributions to this board over the past three years and then get back to me, I will be happy to talk about it. Otherwise I suggest you keep that business to yourself.

[wildkat0507]

duh wos is gonna win!!!! but i know that barbers hill wont quit trying! just dont give up bh!! :D

[Decatur2004]

What type of offense and defense does WO-S run? i Have always seen them in polls and have been reading all the replies to this thread and realized i know nothing about them.

[Old Cardinal]

LOL, both WO-S and Jasper have very fast Offensive and Defensive units. In multiple sets and wholesale stunting, it really doesn't matter how they set up the speed factor is the advantage. I ranked Barbers Hill #3 behind Jasper and WO-S in my poll. I think at this point they can play these two a ball game but would maybe win one out of ten times that they would play.

[PPHSfan]

Wow,

I guess that translates into complete domination of 3a by Jasper and WO-S in OLD CARD'S eyes too. And I bet he is not scared to say it.:)

[Supertilley]

Well I will say it. Wo-s will have domination over BH. Not complete domination like wo-s has over Bridge City.(14w-0L) But more like LCM (19w-2L). Tell me this....How many 4A state championships does BH have? Hell, how many 3A state championships? Wo-s has been to the big dance 4 times. And the crazy part is.....The school is not even 30 years old!

[PPHSfan]

The school is not 30 years old becuase of the consolidation. But both football programs had some growing time before didn't they?

I am asking, not telling.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Supertilley
Well I will say it. Wo-s will have domination over BH. Not complete domination like wo-s has over Bridge City.(14w-0L) But more like LCM (19w-2L). Tell me this....How many 4A state championships does BH have? Hell, how many 3A state championships? Wo-s has been to the big dance 4 times. And the crazy part is.....The school is not even 30 years old!

Well, we've been to 9 state championships (4 in the 'old' 4A)... sure didn't help us beat Rice Consolidated (a team that stunk it up until around '99) last year etc... Didn't help us when we went 6-4 in '01, 5-6 in '02...

Tradition can help you because it's always in the back of your players' mind, they're raised in it, they bleed it, but if you're trying to say WO-S will beat BH because they went to state in 4A, ha, you're funny!

[PPHSfan]

I have a question. Do you think a team getting bigger has just as much chance at success as a team getting smaller? I mean think about that for a minute. Why would a team like say Southlake Caroll who has done nothing but grown over the past ten years not be thought to stand just as good a chance at improvement as a team like WO-S that has been getting smaller for the past ten years.

Now with that being said, how much do you think 5A was worried about SLC when they started talking about the Championships that they had won in the other classifications? I remember 3A didn't seem to be bothered by the four that Celina had won the four previous years before moving up. And I don't think 3A is too concerned with the 2 that WO-S won several years ago either.

[Supertilley]

No! Whats even funnier is that you have over 3000 post. But that is a different thread on a different day.

Anyways, I was not talking about one single game. I was talking of like a 20 year span. Like a said somewhere around 19-2 wo-s. Mabey 15-5.

The thing about wo-s that not many people see is that they don't have a certin level that they play on. The play on the level that the other team plays on. That is why you will see some close games against week teams. And close games with great teams. But 77% of the time wo-s wins.

BH has a 23% chance to beat wo-s.

History is stating this not me.

[PPHSfan]

That is fuzzy math.

BH would have to also own a .230 winning record themselves for that to be true.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Supertilley
No! Whats even funnier is that you have over 3000 post. But that is a different thread on a different day.

Anyways, I was not talking about one single game. I was talking of like a 20 year span. Like a said somewhere around 19-2 wo-s. Mabey 15-5.

The thing about wo-s that not many people see is that they don't have a certin level that they play on. The play on the level that the other team plays on. That is why you will see some close games against week teams. And close games with great teams. But 77% of the time wo-s wins.

BH has a 23% chance to beat wo-s.

History is stating this not me.

Now that's funny right there!

Yah, 3,000 posts since the offseason of the 2001 season, that's around 2.87 (Stats provided by: PPHSFan) posts a day or something... So why is it funny?

What I find funny is that it has taken you 40 posts to look like a moron... shoulda just stated it from the start, we would have taken your word for it... ;)

[PPHSfan]

2.87 posts per day:D

[Gobbla2001]

nm

[WOS1]

Originally posted by RBARKER
chaingang, as PPHSFAN stated earlier you siad in an earlier post that you would rank BH 10 or 11. Then you stated that BH would get killed by WOS. From reading this statement it seems that if you think WOS would beat BH to death then everyone below #10 in the state can't hang with WOS. Sounds like DOMINANCE to me:D

OK.. if your going to twist what he said like that then go ahead, but you are arbitrarily saying that everyone who makes a post stating that their team should be in the top 10 or predicts that their team could beat another team in the top 10 is predicting dominance. Boy... there is going to be a LOT of dominant teams this year. :rolleyes:

[WOS1]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
The school is not 30 years old becuase of the consolidation. But both football programs had some growing time before didn't they?

I am asking, not telling.

WO-S is made up of 3 different schools:

West Orange Chiefs
Stark Tigers
Wallace Lions (integrated with Stark in 1968)

West Orange was never much of a power in football.

Stark went to the semifinals twice, losing once to Palacious and Bay City (I think)

Wallace, which was an all black school, won 3 PVIL state titles and had a few semifinal appearances.

West Orange and Stark consolidated in 1977, thus the name.

[RBARKER]

I just want everyone to know, although this thread is for fun everyone has kept their cool and talked about this subject in a good manner. Usually a thread like this brings on a ROM :D

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by Hupernikomen
Oh boy...

RBarker let me ask your opinion on a few matters...

Some think that WO-S and maybe Jasper (although I don't think Jasper schedules as tough as WO-S) have a much tougher preseason schedule than BH. I think if you look over the last few years. it is true you don't see any highly ranked opponents on BH schedule in the preseason (and certainly not in district though no fault of their own). At least I can't remember any highly ranked teams they have played.

Now to the questions...do you feel the lack of playing tougher predisictrict opponents causes some of the "lack of respect" toward BH by those who make the polls?....

do you feel that BH is at a disadvantage when the playoffs roll around because they haven't had the experience of being pushed around themselves some?...

now I dare to say this and could be entirely wrong but, do you feel BH puts more stock into going 10-0 than in truly preparing themselves for the deepest run in the playoffs as possible by schedule tough opponents like WO-S, Bay City, LaMarque, Texas City (why wouldn't they play Dayton?)? When was the last time they played a game against a ranked opponent that wasn't during a playoff game?

I know those coaches are under tremendous pressure to win there and I think it could have a bit of bearing who they call to make games with, but I admit I could be way off here.

Personally I think BH would greatly benefit from a predistrict game or two against a team that has a shot of beating the snot out of them if they don't play their best, and I DO think BH could compete with the likes of BC and would gladly travel to watch that game.

1.) Now to the questions...do you feel the lack of playing tougher predisictrict opponents causes some of the "lack of respect" toward BH by those who make the polls? No, I don't think it is the schedule it is BH's lack of make deep runs in the playoffs


2.) do you feel BH puts more stock into going 10-0 than in truly preparing themselves for the deepest run in the playoffs as possible by schedule? Yes, I don't know how hard it is to get teams scheduled, but most of the town would be satisfied wiht 10-0 and a district championship. This is just my opinion


BH has had week preseason schedules. This year is actually our best preseason schedule that I can remember. I'm not going to pretend like I know what the coaches do when scheduling games, I hope that they are looking for the best competiton available. I think that the Mind set at BH is or has turned, meaning that 10-0 is not meaning as much now as a run in the playoffs. I hope so.

[chaingang]

Originally posted by RBARKER
I just want everyone to know, although this thread is for fun everyone has kept their cool and talked about this subject in a good manner. Usually a thread like this brings on a ROM :D



MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!;) I was trying to ruffle feathers(not in a mean way) because some of the threads lately are kind of non controversial. I do not mean to hurt anyones feelings, just have some good ole spirited debate. :)


PS. Sabine Pass could dominate BH.:D :p

[Jody]

Hey there Gobbler2001.....good to see your involved this year again. Had to change my screen name due to change in internet provider and lost password.

OK. The reason BH does not get far into the play-offs is simple. Our offensive coaching has really sucked. We were not outmatched last year against Manor, just out coached on the offensive side of the ball. Same goes a few years ago gainst Rice Consolidated. That game in particular was so obviously out-coached it was shameful.

Our defense is just flat ass good. Our offense has more devloped and mature talent this year. Next year will even be better. If we control turnovers, we can play with anyone in state, including Bay City.

By the way, since you asked: BH 24 Bay City 13 If your curious, as I know you are: BH 28 Katy 3 :D :D

[shellman54]

or maybe high island............:rolleyes:

[chaingang]

RBARKER, Let me clear this up. I am not disrespecting BH. I just dont think BH would hang with us. I combine a couple of reasons for that matter. One of the most obvious is what have yall done in the past? IMO not much. The level of play that BH has had, does not compare to ours ( I am talking about games ect.). Also, the fact that (again IMO) BH did not play in one of the hardest 4A districts in the state for the past few years. Again, I am NOT saying that we would dominate 3A. I just think that a game between us would not be close.



PS. Burkeville would dominate BH:p

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by chaingang
RBARKER, Let me clear this up. I am not disrespecting BH. I just dont think BH would hang with us. I combine a couple of reasons for that matter. One of the most obvious is what have yall done in the past? IMO not much. The level of play that BH has had, does not compare to ours ( I am talking about games ect.). Also, the fact that (again IMO) BH did not play in one of the hardest 4A districts in the state for the past few years. Again, I am NOT saying that we would dominate 3A. I just think that a game between us would not be close.



PS. Burkeville would dominate BH:p

Understood Chain, its your opinion and mine is different.

Tarkington would own WOS:D

[chaingang]

So does this mean we kissed and made up?:inlove:





Headlines: BH gets shut out by Wink:D

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by chaingang
So does this mean we kissed and made up?:inlove:





Headlines: BH gets shut out by Wink:D

Lets not take it to far:evillaugh


Update: BH bounces back after a tough loose to Wink and destroyes the Houston Texans

[shellman54]

wink? is that one of those little towns like cut and shoot?

[chaingang]

Originally posted by RBARKER
Lets not take it to far:evillaugh


Update: BH bounces back after a tough loose to Wink and destroyes the Houston Texans


I really have no idea where Wink is. I know they are small though.




ESPN: After the upset of Barbers Hill over Houston, all starters for BH kicked off team for using steroids. They say it aided Carr's 37 interception passes.:doh:

[eagle.eyes]

Since its improbable BH vs. WOS will happen this year, it would be nice to meet in preseason next year. Especially since BH should be even better next year. BH has like 9 juniors and 4 sophs starting the best I can tell, all skill positions except 1 if I'm correct. As for someone else seeing BH and WOS this year, I also have. I went to the WOS/Bay City game. BC's defense was so good it was hard to tell much about the WOS offense. I'm not going to go into detail, but I felt bad for the WOS QB and whoever his relatives were in the stands. Yall have got some tough, if that's the word, fans. If any WOS posters were in the area I was sitting in you must know what I'm talking about.

[PPHSfan]

Something else to consider.

A lot of very good teams go out early in the playoffs because of who they have to meet early. Eleven teams each year are put out by one of the two state champions, four of the eleven are gone in the first two rounds sometimes in tight games, followed by blowouts later in the playoffs.

[shellman54]

Originally posted by eagle.eyes
Since its improbable BH vs. WOS will happen this year, it would be nice to meet in preseason next year. Especially since BH should be even better next year. BH has like 9 juniors and 4 sophs starting the best I can tell, all skill positions except 1 if I'm correct. As for someone else seeing BH and WOS this year, I also have. I went to the WOS/Bay City game. BC's defense was so good it was hard to tell much about the WOS offense. I'm not going to go into detail, but I felt bad for the WOS QB and whoever his relatives were in the stands. Yall have got some tough, if that's the word, fans. If any WOS posters were in the area I was sitting in you must know what I'm talking about.

only if its a scrimmage, next year's schedule will reflect this years, except it will flip flop the home team and away team

[Panther Ross]

I am going to have to give this on to WOS. This is the only game they will lose that I know of right now. I don't know enough of either team, but I do know enough to have a prediction of the game. If I am wrong than forgive BH for underestimating you.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
... I would appreciate it if you wouldn't try to stereotype me as some kind of instigator. I don't think that he has to stereotype you. You've done a pretty good job of that yourself lately. Like I've said before, you used to provide some good analysis with a little bit of wit. Now you're just starting to get on peoples nerves. Take a hint.

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
I don't think that he has to stereotype you. You've done a pretty good job of that yourself lately. Like I've said before, you used to provide some good analysis with a little bit of wit. Now you're just starting to get on peoples nerves. Take a hint.

Keep pushing me JD and see what happens. Everything I do on this board is fun and games or football or both. But if you want to keep poking me in the chest, I will be happy to show you my dark side.

I suggest you Back Off. Consider this my one and only friendly warning.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Keep pushing me JD and see what happens. Everything I do on this board is fun and games or football or both. But if you want to keep poking me in the chest, I will be happy to show you my dark side.

I suggest you Back Off. Consider this my one and only friendly warning. Mommy, he's theatening me...:weeping: :weeping: :weeping: :tongue:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Mommy, he's theatening me...:weeping: :weeping: :weeping: :tongue:

BOTH of you better behave or I am going to send you both to your rooms!!
:mad: :mad:

[PPHSfan]

Jasper Dog has been here long enough to know better than to try and scold me in open forum. He should know better. He needs to save that kind of stuff for newbies and scrubs. He will not tell someone who has as much time as I do on this board how they need to act, and then get away with it. If he wants to make jokes about me, or roast me that is fine, but when he starts scolding me, he crosses the line. This had better be the last thing I have to say about this.

[spiveyrat]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Keep pushing me JD and see what happens. Everything I do on this board is fun and games or football or both. But if you want to keep poking me in the chest, I will be happy to show you my dark side.

I suggest you Back Off. Consider this my one and only friendly warning.

I can't even believe what I'm seeing.
:rolleyes: You really take the cake, man. :rolleyes:

I guess the truth hurts. It certainly got a reaction.

[BlueBlood]

Boy, ya'll can't stand school's that are filled with tradition and greatness. One word can wrap this thread up: JEALOUSY!!!!

Are you kidding me? Yes, WOS has some history, however, it does not compare to the history of Barbers Hill. You haven't been a school long enough to touch the history of BH. Two state championships-thats good. BH also has two state championships and about 8 teams that advanced as far as they could go (small schools at one time could only go to bi-district and later could only go to regionals). Many of these would have been state championships. One of those teams was unscored upon. Jealousy? BH has better facilities, better equipment, better academic record, better overall sports programs, great students, great teachers, great coaches, great fan support, more class, etc. Your coach is a Barbers Hill boy. We have been in the football playoffs more years (30) than you have been a school. The real question here is why WOS has chose to pick on us?

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by BlueBlood

Boy, ya'll can't stand school's that are filled with tradition and greatness. One word can wrap this thread up: JEALOUSY!!!!

Are you kidding me? Yes, WOS has some history, however, it does not compare to the history of Barbers Hill. You haven't been a school long enough to touch the history of BH. Two state championships-thats good. BH also has two state championships and about 8 teams that advanced as far as they could go (small schools at one time could only go to bi-district and later could only go to regionals). Many of these would have been state championships. One of those teams was unscored upon. Jealousy? BH has better facilities, better equipment, better academic record, better overall sports programs, great students, great teachers, great coaches, great fan support, more class, etc. Your coach is a Barbers Hill boy. We have been in the football playoffs more years (30) than you have been a school. The real question here is why WOS has chose to pick on us?

BH WAS the bomb back in the day! Very proud group...not exactly modest...but proud.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by BlueBlood

Boy, ya'll can't stand school's that are filled with tradition and greatness. One word can wrap this thread up: JEALOUSY!!!!

Are you kidding me? Yes, WOS has some history, however, it does not compare to the history of Barbers Hill. You haven't been a school long enough to touch the history of BH. Two state championships-thats good. BH also has two state championships and about 8 teams that advanced as far as they could go (small schools at one time could only go to bi-district and later could only go to regionals). Many of these would have been state championships. One of those teams was unscored upon. Jealousy? BH has better facilities, better equipment, better academic record, better overall sports programs, great students, great teachers, great coaches, great fan support, more class, etc. Your coach is a Barbers Hill boy. We have been in the football playoffs more years (30) than you have been a school. The real question here is why WOS has chose to pick on us?

This is the best thread yet!!! You guys are great.

Let me ask you something, Blue Blood? Would you consider Odessa Permian a team with a lot of tradition? A dynasty even? There was, after all, a bestselling book written about them.

[BlueBlood]

Let me ask you something, Blue Blood? Would you consider Odessa Permian a team with a lot of tradition? A dynasty even? There was, after all, a bestselling book written about them.

Yes, I would consider Permian a team with alot of tradition. Don't for a second think that I am comparing BH to any one in the state other than WOS.

[chaingang]

Originally posted by BlueBlood

Boy, ya'll can't stand school's that are filled with tradition and greatness. One word can wrap this thread up: JEALOUSY!!!!

Are you kidding me? Yes, WOS has some history, however, it does not compare to the history of Barbers Hill. You haven't been a school long enough to touch the history of BH. Two state championships-thats good. BH also has two state championships and about 8 teams that advanced as far as they could go (small schools at one time could only go to bi-district and later could only go to regionals). Many of these would have been state championships. One of those teams was unscored upon. Jealousy? BH has better facilities, better equipment, better academic record, better overall sports programs, great students, great teachers, great coaches, great fan support, more class, etc. Your coach is a Barbers Hill boy. We have been in the football playoffs more years (30) than you have been a school. The real question here is why WOS has chose to pick on us?


When 1908? Give me a break. Tradition on what class? I guess you know so much about WOS that you have seen our facilities or coaches or report cards( academics) and what ever else you blabbled about. You dont know us! So dont try to talk on desperation. Nice try, but I dont think you made any point at all.:thinking:

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by BlueBlood

Boy, ya'll can't stand school's that are filled with tradition and greatness. One word can wrap this thread up: JEALOUSY!!!!

Are you kidding me? Yes, WOS has some history, however, it does not compare to the history of Barbers Hill. You haven't been a school long enough to touch the history of BH. Two state championships-thats good. BH also has two state championships and about 8 teams that advanced as far as they could go (small schools at one time could only go to bi-district and later could only go to regionals). Many of these would have been state championships. One of those teams was unscored upon. Jealousy? BH has better facilities, better equipment, better academic record, better overall sports programs, great students, great teachers, great coaches, great fan support, more class, etc. Your coach is a Barbers Hill boy. We have been in the football playoffs more years (30) than you have been a school. The real question here is why WOS has chose to pick on us?

Blueblood has a point here. BH has placed in the Lone Star cup top 10 3 or 4 years in a row untill last year. The Lone Star cup compares All sports and UIL events. Meaning Some schools are a one sport school BH does well in all sports boys and girls.

[chaingang]

Originally posted by RBARKER
Blueblood has a point here. BH has placed in the Lone Star cup top 10 3 or 4 years in a row untill last year. The Lone Star cup compares All sports and UIL events. Meaning Some schools are a one sport school BH does well in all sports boys and girls.


What about arm wrestling?

[shellman54]

sorry, we are still behind on that. we only got volleyball a couple of years ago.............

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by shellman54
sorry, we are still behind on that. we only got volleyball a couple of years ago.............

And they are currently Ranked #1 in 3A :D

[chaingang]

Originally posted by RBARKER
And they are currently Ranked #1 in 3A :D


Well, what else is there to do in the big ole town of Mount Bellvue.:D


I mean Mont Belvieu

[RBARKER]

Hey Chaingang did you ever think this thread would last this long?:D

[chaingang]

No, and I think we are starting to make desperate rambling posts.Lol I figured I would have been ROM'd by now. I guess Ranger Mom is on vacation.:D

Its all for fun anyway.;)

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by BlueBlood

Let me ask you something, Blue Blood? Would you consider Odessa Permian a team with a lot of tradition? A dynasty even? There was, after all, a bestselling book written about them.

Yes, I would consider Permian a team with alot of tradition. Don't for a second think that I am comparing BH to any one in the state other than WOS.

Just a question.:D :D :D

[WOS92]

BH: 30 appearances, two titles in 64 years.
WO-S: 15 appearances, two titles in 28 years.

We can't help that we haven't been around for as long as BH, but we've certainly held our own in the time we HAVE had, and that's in 5A, 4A and 3A.

[RBARKER]

we will play yall in 10 years when BH is 5A and WOS is 2A.:D

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by WOS92
BH: 30 appearances, two titles in 64 years.
WO-S: 15 appearances, two titles in 28 years.


In the same 28 years.

Pilot Point:

26 appearances, two titles
27 winning seasons in a row and counting
15 10+ win seasons
2 undefeated seasons
22 district championships
A winning record against every team ever played more than four times.

276-55-10 record .809 winning percentage.

:)

[Keith7]

Originally posted by PPHSfan

A winning record against every team ever played more than four times.



uh oh.. after this season, i have a fealing this reacord will be in major jeopardy

[PPHSfan]

Maybe, maybe not.

Just curious though. How many other teams can say that Keith?

[Keith7]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Maybe, maybe not.

Just curious though. How many other teams can say that Keith?

let me guess.. none???

it takes a grade "A" football team to beable to do that

[PPHSfan]

Well maybe the mighty Leopards will beat us a couple more times and spoil it.:D

[Keith7]

then u can change it to a minimum 5 games

[PPHSfan]

LOL

[PPHSfan]

I'm going to bed.

[chaingang]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
In the same 28 years.

Pilot Point:

26 appearances, two titles
27 winning seasons in a row and counting
15 10+ win seasons
2 undefeated seasons
22 district championships
A winning record against every team ever played more than four times.

276-55-10 record .809 winning percentage.

:)


Here we go.:doh:

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by chaingang
Here we go.:doh:

:confused:

[chaingang]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
:confused:

Just trying to flare thhings up early.:D

[chaingang]

That is very impressive though. I just dont here much about PP around here, so I had no idea.:clap:

[EAGLETOWN]

Originally posted by Hupernikomen
Oh boy...

RBarker let me ask your opinion on a few matters...

Some think that WO-S and maybe Jasper (although I don't think Jasper schedules as tough as WO-S) have a much tougher preseason schedule than BH. I think if you look over the last few years. it is true you don't see any highly ranked opponents on BH schedule in the preseason (and certainly not in district though no fault of their own). At least I can't remember any highly ranked teams they have played.

Now to the questions...do you feel the lack of playing tougher predisictrict opponents causes some of the "lack of respect" toward BH by those who make the polls?....

do you feel that BH is at a disadvantage when the playoffs roll around because they haven't had the experience of being pushed around themselves some?...

now I dare to say this and could be entirely wrong but, do you feel BH puts more stock into going 10-0 than in truly preparing themselves for the deepest run in the playoffs as possible by schedule tough opponents like WO-S, Bay City, LaMarque, Texas City (why wouldn't they play Dayton?)? When was the last time they played a game against a ranked opponent that wasn't during a playoff game?

I know those coaches are under tremendous pressure to win there and I think it could have a bit of bearing who they call to make games with, but I admit I could be way off here.

Personally I think BH would greatly benefit from a predistrict game or two against a team that has a shot of beating the snot out of them if they don't play their best, and I DO think BH could compete with the likes of BC and would gladly travel to watch that game.

I would not mind getting in on this if I may.

Thank you here goes.

I think our preseason schedule but IMHO it has been a little week the last few years.

I would not mind it being a little tougher.

I to like BH's preseason schedule this year.

I think its important to schedule games you "can possibly" win, but that would be competative and not a blow out favoring us.

But on the other hand I do not see a benfefit of having our players butts handed to them by a much stronger team.

What would it benefit us if our QB could not get a play off, and was running for his life the entire game and what about injuries.

I guess if I was a coach and I am not but, I would want to schedule teams that would give us a good game, the game could go both ways, and in winning or losing a game like that the players would learn valuable playoff like experience.

They do not develop winning skills if it is a blow out either way.

But even on top of all of this a coach still and to find and schedule teams like this.

IMHO..

:D Thank you and have a nice day.:D

[Hupernikomen]

I am sure it is not easy to find games that you want. I read where the BH coach said he had a hard time scheduling games this past year because of the lack of opponents. To be quite honest I don't know if WO-S would even schedule BH because they would have to give up either an easy drive or a tough opponent. Just pure conjecturing. Also, I would think Central/WO-S would bring in more money than WO-S/BH because of the proximity factor--but BH does travel well.

[Goldenstick]

The way Barbers Hill has been playing, I'm sure they would give WOS a good game and have a chance to beat them!

[chaingang]

Originally posted by EAGLETOWN
I would not mind getting in on this if I may.

Thank you here goes.

I think our preseason schedule but IMHO it has been a little week the last few years.

I would not mind it being a little tougher.

I to like BH's preseason schedule this year.

I think its important to schedule games you "can possibly" win, but that would be competative and not a blow out favoring us.

But on the other hand I do not see a benfefit of having our players butts handed to them by a much stronger team.

What would it benefit us if our QB could not get a play off, and was running for his life the entire game and what about injuries.

I guess if I was a coach and I am not but, I would want to schedule teams that would give us a good game, the game could go both ways, and in winning or losing a game like that the players would learn valuable playoff like experience.

They do not develop winning skills if it is a blow out either way.

But even on top of all of this a coach still and to find and schedule teams like this.

IMHO..

:D Thank you and have a nice day.:D

Yes we play a hard schedule but we have not had are butts handed to us.:)

[chaingang]

Originally posted by Goldenstick
The way Barbers Hill has been playing, I'm sure they would give WOS a good game and have a chance to beat them!

Yeah right.:p