Best RB's in 3a

[Speed24]

Description of the best backs in 3a

I'm definetly going with Chris Smith (Navasota).. good size,speed and strength. This guy is hard to bring down..and can be hard to catch.

[Gobbla2001]

Cuero's Latrael Cooper (JR.)...

Checked in this year close to 6'3 200+ pounds and runs a 4.4... but is out for the season :(

[IHStangFan]

how bout "best all around" back.....i nominate Brandy Stacy of Ingleside:

RUSHING Yds: 245 Att: 23 Long: TDs: 3
RECEIVING Yds: 59 No: 4 Long: TDs: 1
PASSING Yds: 32 Comp: 1 Att: 3 Ints: 0 Long: TDs: 1
TACKLES Solo: 6 Asst: 6 Tot: 12 For Loss: Sacks: Sack Yds:

These do not reflect his TDs & yardage on SPEC. Teams which i will try to locate..i know they include a blocked PAT returned 96yds for a score, and a fumble rec. that went 60 some odd yds for a score i believe.

[Keith7]

Terrius Purvey had 220 attempts for 2,004 yards and 32 touchdowns last season alone..

texasprepxtra.com ranks him a 6.0 out of a 6.1, meaning he is a blue chip..

for more info on this go to http://texasprepxtra.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=26465

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by Keith7
Terrius Purvey had 220 attempts for 2,004 yards and 32 touchdowns last season alone..

texasprepxtra.com ranks him a 6.0 out of a 6.1, meaning he is a blue chip..

for more info on this go to http://texasprepxtra.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=26465 the next Adrian Peterson?? hmmmm.... :thinking:

[Keith7]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
the next Adrian Peterson?? hmmmm.... :thinking:

hopefully, hes a really good football player

oops i originally said a bad word

[lobo12]

hopefully he wont go to oklahoma

[Keith7]

he doesnt want to because they just got adrian peterson.. he likes texas cuz he might have a chance to play right away there

[westTXbest]

What about purvey this season, has he started off good?

[Keith7]

he has only played the first half of both football games gainesville has played and has 266 yards plus a 93 yard kick return

[JettJenkins04]

Charles Huffman is the definition of a very good back. With size, speed, and quickness, this guy can do it all.:D



Go Raiders

[DawgFan91]

Originally posted by Keith7
he has only played the first half of both football games gainesville has played and has 266 yards plus a 93 yard kick return

Why did he only play the second half vs. Decatur? I didn't think Decatur was out of reach at halftime.

[texcaj]

I would have to say that Chris Smith is one of the top backs in 3a. He has almost 500 yards rushing this year (thru 3 games) with 9 tds. 220 lbs with 4.5 speed! He is definitely difficult to bring down.

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by Speed24
Description of the best backs in 3a

I'm definetly going with Chris Smith (Navasota).. good size,speed and strength. This guy is hard to bring down..and can be hard to catch.

I am going to take a wild guess and say Chris Smith wears number 24?

[venomous tat2]

Chris # is 30 and yes he is a hard runner it helps when you deep squat 650 lbs and clean 315 lbs.

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by venomous tat2
Chris # is 30 and yes he is a hard runner it helps when you deep squat 650 lbs and clean 315 lbs.

He must be about 5'7" or shorter if those numbers are accurate. Otherwise he would be playing defensive tackle.:D

[Doon]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
how bout "best all around" back.....i nominate Brandy Stacy of Ingleside:

RUSHING Yds: 245 Att: 23 Long: TDs: 3
RECEIVING Yds: 59 No: 4 Long: TDs: 1
PASSING Yds: 32 Comp: 1 Att: 3 Ints: 0 Long: TDs: 1
TACKLES Solo: 6 Asst: 6 Tot: 12 For Loss: Sacks: Sack Yds:

These do not reflect his TDs & yardage on SPEC. Teams which i will try to locate..i know they include a blocked PAT returned 96yds for a score, and a fumble rec. that went 60 some odd yds for a score i believe.

Brandon Stacy's updated stats:
Rushing 33-290 4 TD
Receiving 5-113 1 TD
Passing 1-3 32 1 TD
Defense 2 INT's, not sure about the tackles, only one game posted.
98 yard return blocked extra point.
80 yard punt return TD.

Just another good back in 30-3A.
Travis Franco-Sinton, George Alvarado-AP, and of course the Ingleside QB Randy Webb are off to good starts.

[NHSRattler60]

.....not really...our D-tackle is stronger. 700 squatter

[PPHSfan]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[NHSRattler60]

Ok....but its a fact. Both of them are power lifters and both of them went state.

[PPHSfan]

I don't doubt that Mr. Smith is a stud. I just don't know why you feel the need to inflate his numbers.

Read this newspaper LINK (http://www.brazossports.com/basketball/063004harris.htm) and then tell me how he added 150lbs to his squat in 2 months.

[texcaj]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You're right, the dt actually squats more like 720, the other dt squats right at 600 and yes Smith squats around 615. These are past parallel squats. I don't think we have one starting o-linemen that squats less than 500. If you don't believe it, ask someone who knows our head coach about his program. Smith is around 5'11", 218, 4.5, close to 400lb bench, 315 clean, 615 squat. Apparently you have not been to any powerlifting meets. There are some awesome weights being thrown around there by HS kids.

[PPHSfan]

See above newspaper link and get back to me.

[NHSRattler60]

A: Old article B: Read the Navasota defeats Panthers article, it makes that article wrong.

[texcaj]

You know the media isn't always right. I don't know where they got their information but it is wrong. Half of the time their stats aren't even right on Saturday mornings in the paper. That is why they ask us to send in updated and correct stats every week.
That was from one meet that we had at Navasota. He missed his last two lifts because of a false step, even though he still got the weight. I happen to know for a fact that he has done it. I've seen him do it, and I think I would know!

[PPHSfan]

The article is only two months old. Are you telling me that he went from squatting 500 lbs to 650 lbs in 74 days?

[texcaj]

The article may be only 2 months old but the info is even older and wrong. Why would we let them test during the summer conditioning program? But I've already explained it anyway. If you don't believe it come by and look at the record boards in the wt room. And it wasn't 650, it was 615.

[NHSRattler60]

http://www.brazossports.com/football/091104navasota.htm

read the bottom. the weight is wrong, i know, i watched him squat over 500 yesterday in the weight room.

[PPHSfan]

I do not doubt that he can do over 500. But you said he "deep squats 650".

Big difference.

Show me a link to his results at the regional meets and shut me up.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by DawgFan91
Why did he only play the second half vs. Decatur? I didn't think Decatur was out of reach at halftime.

i wasn't there but the newspaper said he was sick..

[texcaj]

The regional meet results aren't on the website. I checked. And why do you keep insisting that he did 650. It was 615, BIG DIFFERENCE! as you are so fond of saying. He didn't do 615 at regionals anyway. He did it during the last testing phase of the year.

[PPHSfan]

I didn't say he did 650. Your buddy from Navasota did. Scroll up.

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by venomous tat2
Chris # is 30 and yes he is a hard runner it helps when you deep squat 650 lbs and clean 315 lbs.

Read it and weep.

[Keith7]

The more you squat doesn't add any yards

[texcaj]

I saw it but I told you the right weight. These are two different people you are talking to here.

[big daddy russ]

I squatted 495 and gained 0 yards in high school.

[PPHSfan]

All of my posts talking about the inflated weights were made BEFORE you said it was different. I even said that I am sure he is a stud, but I did't understand why he felt the need to inflate his weights. Go back and read the entire thread, and then come preach to me about practicing what I preach.

[texcaj]

How does the more you squat not add yards? The more you can squat and clean makes you able to run harder for a longer period of time without exhaustion setting in. The more explosive you are also adds yards. The stronger you are gets those tough yards and also yards after contact. So what is your theory? That all rbs should stay out of the wt room?

[PPHSfan]

waiting

[big daddy russ]

I don't know, I wasn't a running back. But yeah, all running backs should stay out of the weight room. As a matter of fact, all teams should stay out of the weight room. It's dangerous to your health. Just like Bread, Listerine and everything else. So unless you're from Ingleside, stay out of the weight room.:hand:

[Keith7]

Originally posted by texcaj
How does the more you squat not add yards? The more you can squat and clean makes you able to run harder for a longer period of time without exhaustion setting in. The more explosive you are also adds yards. The stronger you are gets those tough yards and also yards after contact. So what is your theory? That all rbs should stay out of the wt room?

Agility, speed, vision, and instinct are all big things for running backs.. if squat was so important then the would have alot of offensive linemen running the ball..

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by Doon
Brandon Stacy's updated stats:
Rushing 33-290 4 TD
Receiving 5-113 1 TD
Passing 1-3 32 1 TD
Defense 2 INT's, not sure about the tackles, only one game posted.
98 yard return blocked extra point.
80 yard punt return TD.

Just another good back in 30-3A.
Travis Franco-Sinton, George Alvarado-AP, and of course the Ingleside QB Randy Webb are off to good starts. thanks for the correction Doon! Stacy and Webb both look good this year so far...on BOTH sides of the ball!!

[texcaj]

I've been reading the thread, I've been commenting the whole time. I jumped in very quickly and corrected the weight. I'm asking why you felt it necessary to continue to disagree even when I put up the right numbers. All I'm saying is that he is an outstanding rb and has a work ethic like you couldn't believe. He is a legit 600+ squatter and a legit 4.5 runner (check the nike camp website). He is also great in the classroom. I know he has a bright future ahead of him.

[strike hard]

I will have to say Chris Smith from Navasota also. If you have not got to see him in person you should take the time and go see him play it would be worth the trip.

Strike hard Strike fast Go big blue

[texcaj]

Originally posted by Keith7
Agility, speed, vision, and instinct are all big things for running backs.. if squat was so important then the would have alot of offensive linemen running the ball..

So you are telling me that 2 backs with equal agility, speed, vision, and instinct but one weighs 218, runs a 4.5 and squats 600+ and the other weighs 218, runs a 4.5 and squats 400 will be able to gain the same number of yards?

[big daddy russ]

Hmmm, I don't know, tex.:doh: What do their offensive lines look like? What kind of system do they run? Do they have the supporting cast to make that system work? Who do they play? Are those teams stout defensively? What does their technique look like? Do they run low to the ground? Do they have good balance? Do they.........

[PPHSfan]

Originally posted by texcaj
So you are telling me that 2 backs with equal agility, speed, vision, and instinct but one weighs 218, runs a 4.5 and squats 600+ and the other weighs 218, runs a 4.5 and squats 400 will be able to gain the same number of yards?

It's possible.

The squat is overrated. The guy who does 600 will probably go down with a knee injury first.

Ask any orthopedic doctor if you should squat more than 400 lbs.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by texcaj
So you are telling me that 2 backs with equal agility, speed, vision, and instinct but one weighs 218, runs a 4.5 and squats 600+ and the other weighs 218, runs a 4.5 and squats 400 will be able to gain the same number of yards?

yes until u get down to goalline, but i'd just pound it with the fullback from there anyways

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
It's possible.

The squat is overrated. The guy who does 600 will probably go down with a knee injury first.

Ask any orthopedic doctor if you should squat more than 400 lbs. +1......... squat doesnt mean jack chit on the field unless you got some big guy on your back while youre trying to run the ball....otherwise...its a useless stat that has no impact on a RB and his game.

[big daddy russ]

I think the squat means something, if you come up fast and work those fast twitch muscles. That gives you a little exlposiveness.

[texcaj]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
It's possible.

The squat is overrated. The guy who does 600 will probably go down with a knee injury first.

Ask any orthopedic doctor if you should squat more than 400 lbs.

Yeah, that is why they push it so much in collegiate and professional football. They don't know any better. I agree that you have to mix it up when it comes to lifting. The explosive lifts are vital to a good program. By the way, doctors also used to prescribe opium for headaches.

[big daddy russ]

Hey Barrett, who have you seen play this year? Been to any Saturday games? And who looked good? Bishop or OG have anything?

[PPHSfan]

Call the Sports Medicine Clinic in the town nearest you. Ask for the Orthapedic Surgeon that specializes in knee injuries. Tell him that you are in a weight training program as a football player, and ask him what the maximum weight you should work out with in the squat rack as a football player. Then call the trainer (who will be a doctor) of any NFL or Collegiate team and ask them the same question. Then get back to me.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by texcaj
Yeah, that is why they push it so much in collegiate and professional football. They don't know any better. I agree that you have to mix it up when it comes to lifting. The explosive lifts are vital to a good program. By the way, doctors also used to prescribe opium for headaches.

i don't know who you've been watching squat but its not a very explosive lift

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Hey Barrett, who have you seen play this year? Been to any Saturday games? And who looked good? Bishop or OG have anything? They are OKAY at best. I've been to the IHS -vs- Zapata game, and the IHS -vs- Orange Grove game. OG has a decent little RB. Zapata looks strong from all angles...i think they will suprise some people this year. they are no joke.

[texcaj]

What is the deal with the selective reading? I said that squat was important but you "have to mix it up". The explosive lifts are vital to a good program. Do I need to tell you what those lifts would be?

[Black_Magic]

Snyder has a back ( Dee Walker )with over 525 yards in 3 games I guess we will see how he continues to do. Lubbock Cooper has a good back as well. I dont know how many yards he has at this time though.

[IHStangFan]

i mean really guys...come on....why even argue about it?! of course its a big deal in college and NFL ball....there is alot more contact w/ RBs hitting REALLY BIG linemen, Safeties, LBs, etc. the tempo of the game is MUCH faster than HS ball. i dont think squats are as much of a factor in HS ball. most of the time your really good RBs are rarely touched due to being so much faster and agile than the D players. a few years back, Ingleside had a 5'5" 150lb RB who went for over 1000 yds rushing.....and i PROMISE you it wasnt because he could squat a volkswagon......it was because he could outrun one.....he had 4.3 speed. to compare college and NFL to HS ball to give your squat stregnth theory validity is absurd.

[big daddy russ]

Beeeee Ceeeee!!! I loved that little dude!

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Beeeee Ceeeee!!! I loved that little dude! talked to him the other day actually. think hes goin to Del Mar?? what a waste. could EASILY walk on the track team at Kingsville.

[big daddy russ]

Last I heard he was playing for Kingsville. Played special teams at 5'5", 155 lbs.... and ran track. But there's nothing wrong with the Vikings. 1956 NAIA Champs, baby!

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
I squatted 495 and gained 0 yards in high school.
lol thanks for the humor.. that's what some people need in their life, humor..

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Last I heard he was playing for Kingsville. Played special teams at 5'5", 155 lbs.... and ran track. But there's nothing wrong with the Vikings. 1956 NAIA Champs, baby! i dont know that he's down there anymore...i had HEARD he was down there...but i see him in Ingleside an aweful lot. [shrug]

[big daddy russ]

Well, this is his third year. (Dang we're old!... You especially:D ) Maybe Kingsville just wasn't for him.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Well, this is his third year. (Dang we're old!... You especially:D ) Maybe Kingsville just wasn't for him. Thanks for pointing that out Russ.....but yeah...i was also aware of the Vikings kickin tail and takin names :D

[downlower]

Smith is a very good running back, and from past experiences I know he is a hard guy to take down. I do not doubt the power of his legs just by looking at them, and I do know that Navasota has some pretty good powerlifters. I also noticed that last year Navasota would keep him in once they were clearly winning and he would get plenty of carries, that might be why he already has 500 yards.

[Hupernikomen]

squat is certainly a good way to build overall strength and is a part of probably most off-season programs. I would think you would care more about that for your bulky FBs having to push someone out of the way than for the speedy RBs, but obviously someone with a lot of strength in their legs are going to break more tackles.

If the ONLY variable that was different in RBs was squat of course they will be better off if they squat more: strength is a good thing. It is the reason why most lineman don't go straight from high school to starting in college their first year, but not quite so critical for the kid who runs the 4.4 and has good overall strength. I bet you one thing Adrian Peterson squats quite a bit more now than he did when he was in high school. I could be wrong.

[clayalan]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
I don't doubt that Mr. Smith is a stud. I just don't know why you feel the need to inflate his numbers.

Read this newspaper LINK (http://www.brazossports.com/basketball/063004harris.htm) and then tell me how he added 150lbs to his squat in 2 months. Well I was one of his platform judges at the state meet and I remember him squating over 600lbs. there was another kid who sqauted over 700 from navasota. if Dan Burk is there strength coach then the entire team must be extremely strong. Chris Smith looks like a big D1-A back. if you saw him in person without pads then you would not have any doubt about how strong he is. Tree trunk legs!! oh yea he has my vote.

[venomous tat2]

if i was getting paid to type i would have gotten FIRED today,ok,ok,ok i typed in the numbers wrong 615 but he has done more during the summer just to see how much he could do and then it was only 1 squat. Dr's would prefer half squats because the risk of tearing the miniscus(spelling?).look at rosters and some wt & ht's are as wrong as it get nobody blows up about it.come to our wt room any time and see it for yourself be our guest,we let the red mustache from bellville see it he didn't belive it either!!.

[pavilion]

since cooper is out im gonna say larvell roy... anybody at the wharton-cuero game would know what im saying... and to add something to your squat theory he does a little over 400 and still drags people around and runs them over... i would figure that squatting 600 and having huge legs would effect your quickness and agility so i would take the guy with smaller legs

[G.A.T.A 2008]

Originally posted by JettJenkins04
Charles Huffman is the definition of a very good back. With size, speed, and quickness, this guy can do it all.:D



Go Raiders
Whats up Big Head Brandon This somebody that knows you but im not going to tell you who. I will tell you if Rice and Charles Huffman will win.



G.A.T.A

[ROY]

I have to go with Chris Smith as well. I've seen a few pretty good high school running backs over the years live. Cedric Benson (Univ. of TX), Rodrick Cartright (Kansas St.), Ben Gay (Baylor). All of these were highly praised high school running backs, but non of them punished defenders the way I've seen Chris Smith punish defenders. He smashes right through them...he doesn't tip toe around anyone...and he still gains the yards! He is a machine in the weightroom as ven. tat. stated earlier. Write his name down somewhere and look him up in 4 years. He'll be playing on TV on Saturdays and quite possibly on Sundays. To allllll my beloved fans.....ROY IS BACK!!! OUT!!!