2A AP Poll

[Goldenstick]

Class 2A

Team Rec Pts Pvs
1.Rogers (6) 13-2 162 -
2.Newton (7) 10-2 161 9
3.Holliday (1) 12-2 136 -
4.Garrison (1) 16-0 110 1
5.Crawford (3) 12-1 109 -
6.Whitewright 10-4 91 -
7.Celina (2) 10-2 71 8
8.Maypearl 11-2 53 -
9.Jim Ned 14-1 35 6
10.Canadian 10-3 30 -

Also receiving votes: Sonora 24, Corrigan-Camden 17, San Augusine 17,
Van Vleck 16, Poth 12, Eastland 9, Italy 9, Boyd 8, Kerena 8, Universal
City Randolph 6, Elysian Fields 5, Hooks 5, Alto 2, Ganado 2, Cisco 1,
Crane 1.

[Goldenstick]

Why is Celina so low? Last time they were in 2A, no one could beat them!

[KTJ]

I think it's sketch to make the first reply to your own post. :D

But Celina is low because a.) no G.A. and b.) no G.A.

[j_dog]

Originally posted by Goldenstick
Why is Celina so low? Last time they were in 2A, no one could beat them!
Didn't their coach go back to Pilot Point last year? If so, that might account for the ranking.

[jason]

and they've had average seasons the last two years...they have to prove themselves at the 2A ranks again...

[PPHSfan]

Yea, they were beaten recently by a 2A team. I think it was in 1997. They also only won their last 57 games in 2A and the last four State Championships when they were there. They only managed a meager 21-3 run in their two years in 3A, so my guess is they are ranked low because the sportswriters are STUPID.

[JasperDog94]

LOL!:clap: :clap: I agree PPHSfan!:)

[mwynn05]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Yea, they were beaten recently by a 2A team. I think it was in 1997. They also only won their last 57 games in 2A and the last four State Championships when they were there. They only managed a meager 21-3 run in their two years in 3A, so my guess is they are ranked low because the sportswriters are STUPID. lol

[GoDeep]

Ive heard that they didnt look too good against Glen Rose. Maybe the sportswriters know something we dont, b/c I would think that Celina would have their way with the Tigers.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Yea, they were beaten recently by a 2A team. I think it was in 1997. They also only won their last 57 games in 2A and the last four State Championships when they were there. They only managed a meager 21-3 run in their two years in 3A, so my guess is they are ranked low because the sportswriters are STUPID.

You tell 'em!!!!:D

[jason]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Yea, they were beaten recently by a 2A team. I think it was in 1997. They also only won their last 57 games in 2A and the last four State Championships when they were there. They only managed a meager 21-3 run in their two years in 3A, so my guess is they are ranked low because the sportswriters are STUPID. hey if your gonna be mean than u can just go back to your cave :D :D :D

[PPHSfan]

Go Deep,

Celina has never made it a point to look good while practicing other teams. The use scrimmages for what they are. To look at kids they want to see. I don't think the results of a scrimmage game count for much, but 78-3 in the past 81 games is not too shabby.

[Keith7]

if WOS can be ranked #1 in 3A with out even makin the playoffs the past 2 years after moving down..
and if you use the same logic
then Celina should be #1 in 2A after winning a district title and making it 2 rounds into the playoffs 2 years in a row in 3A..

[PPHSfan]

I looked up Celina's history with the six teams ahead of them in the top ten.

They have only played Holiday, Garrison, and WhiteWright in the past, but here are the records.

vs Holiday 3-0 PF 82 PA 29
vs Garrison 1-0 PF 41 PA 35
vs WhiteWright 7-2 PF 210 PA 87

Overall 10 wins 2 Losses

Points for 333
Points allowed 151

[GoDeep]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Go Deep,

Celina has never made it a point to look good while practicing other teams. The use scrimmages for what they are. To look at kids they want to see. I don't think the results of a scrimmage game count for much, but 78-3 in the past 81 games is not too shabby.

I agree completely. Based on their performance in 3a, they should definately be ranked high in 2a. But, like I said, I was told that both lines, and the defense as a whole, looked pretty sloppy. Could be since it was just a scrimmage. Could be b/c they're young. Could be b/c this will be a down year for Celina. Who knows? I was just throwing a theory out there. Ive also heard that there have been some discipline(legal) problems with some of the Celina kids lately. I repeat, this is ONLY hearsay. Could be 99% false (I know it applies to at least one kid b/c I got this info from his parent. But, it could very likely be an isolated incident). I thought maybe the absence of GA Moore was the reason.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
I looked up Celina's history with the six teams ahead of them in the top ten.

They have only played Holiday, Garrison, and WhiteWright in the past, but here are the records.

vs Holiday 3-0 PF 82 PA 29
vs Garrison 1-0 PF 41 PA 35
vs WhiteWright 7-2 PF 210 PA 87

Overall 10 wins 2 Losses

Points for 333
Points allowed 151

i bet Celina will have at least 1 pre-district loss this season

[Goldenstick]

Originally posted by Keith7
if WOS can be ranked #1 in 3A with out even makin the playoffs the past 2 years after moving down..
and if you use the same logic
then Celina should be #1 in 2A after winning a district title and making it 2 rounds into the playoffs 2 years in a row in 3A..

I agree Keith7!

[PPHSfan]

Yeah, Maybe a down year, but you have to go back eleven years to find a season they didn't win ten games or more, so I guess "down year" is a relative term.

[Keith7]

ignore this message.. i am an idiot

[Old Cardinal]

I would rate them #1 Newton #2 Garrison #3 Celina How would you rate the top three?

[PPHSfan]

I would rank Celina number one on the simple fact that they have not lost a game in 2a since 1997.

I would still rank Celina number one in the preseason 2A poll even if Galena Park Northshore dropped this year with them. You can't argue with their success in 2A period.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Keith7
ignore this message.. i am an idiot Keith...you know better than this...it's just too tempting...;)

[Keith7]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Keith...you know better than this...it's just too tempting...;)

better live it up.. thats the last time i'll ever say it

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

Originally posted by PPHSfan
Yea, they were beaten recently by a 2A team. I think it was in 1997. They also only won their last 57 games in 2A and the last four State Championships when they were there. They only managed a meager 21-3 run in their two years in 3A, so my guess is they are ranked low because the sportswriters are STUPID. probably because they would be getting the same kind of attn that WO-S is getting and has been getting for a while. i know celina will do well, but they do have to prove themselves at that level again. all classifacations have their own playing levels, tendancies of what they are good and bad at, and different depths in player pool, all of these things have to be accounted for aswell as much more depending on each team as they progress through the years.

[Bellville22]

Unfortunate weekend for Whitewright, as they lost their star RB after he broke a team policy (a big one).

The Tigers went from serious state contender to most likely an average playoff team. My roommate is from WW, and they're pretty upset. I've seen this kid run, and he had star written all over him, but if he doesn't take care of his business off the field, there's not much you can do.

Go Tigers!!

[Z motion 10 out on 2]

How about this:

Childress a 7-3 team from 3A last year (Didn't make the playoffs due to Graham, Vernon and Iowa Park beating them) hung somewhat like a 27 point spread on Holiday last year in nondistrict play.

Childress is so underrated it is laughable. I hope to catch the Childress / Holiday game this year, I bet it will be the same result as last year.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Z motion 10 out on 2
How about this:

Childress a 7-3 team from 3A last year (Didn't make the playoffs due to Graham, Vernon and Iowa Park beating them) hung somewhat like a 27 point spread on Holiday last year in nondistrict play.

Childress is so underrated it is laughable. I hope to catch the Childress / Holiday game this year, I bet it will be the same result as last year.

Again, using the same logic that people use to make WOS number one.. This should make Childress number 1 in 2A as well..

PPHSFan was right.. the Sports writers are stupid