WOS moves into 3A ranks

[X Man]

How far do you think WOS will go in 3A this year?

X Man

[3afan2K3]

Well who do they have returning?

[j_dog]

I think they have the potential to win it all.

[Gasilla]

j_dog:
I think they have the potential to win it all.That'll all depend on the our returning QB Ryan Crouch. He threw for 1368 yards and 16 TD's, but lost 2 great receivers. We will still have good receivers for him to throw to, but you never know if they will have the same karma. I know Ryan is a very hard worker and I beleive he will have a big year.

[Old Tiger]

How big are their biggest players?

[Matthew328]

I'd say WOS is at the very least top 5 material at the moment..

[Buckeye80]

I predict that WOS will not go winless this year. That's about the extent of my knowledge about them.

[Cat22]

Hey Gasilla how many lettermen does WO-S have coming back? I had heard at one time that it was alot.

[Old Tiger]

Matthew328:
I'd say WOS is at the very least top 5 material at the moment..If matt says top 5 material you know they are good. Matt knows his stuff.

[NewStang]

I believe we (WO-S) have as many returning seniors this year as we've had players in each of the past six or seven years. So, if what I'm hearing is correct, our first year in 3A should be our deepest roster in a long time. Strange. As far as size goes, we're traditionally built more around speed than size. I would think we'll be ranked in the Top 5 to start out the season, seeing as we're usually in the AP Top 10 in 4A every year at some point. But, of course, that doesn't really mean much, other than I think our name will be pretty prominent in 3A playoff talk as the season nears. How that will actually play out won't be known until November or December, I guess.

[Keith7]

i think they are overrated

[NewStang]

I'm not surprised. You don't seem to know a thing about them... except that you don't like them getting any attention...
What, exactly, makes you think they're overrated?

<small>[ February 16, 2004, 07:55 AM: Message edited by: NewStang ]</small>

[GUNHO]

I think we have 8 offense and 7 defenseive starters coming back from and 8-2 team.We have a tough pre district schedule with Jasper,Nederland,Bmt.Central and Newton.How well we do against these teams will give us some insight as what to expect from WO-S.I agree that it will be very hard to go undefeated these first 10 games.We are looking forward to playing the great teams you have here in 3a football.

[NewStang]

Bay City in pre-district, as well... they could be a Top 5 4A team again this year...

[bc 76]

NewStang Bay City is loaded this year 4 off/9 def starters from a 13-2 state finalist,this game will be a big test for WOS I see Bay City ranked 1 in state class 4a.be

[NewStang]

It's always a great game, year in, year out... Being one of BC's only 2 losses last year is a proud thing for WO-S... Being an unbiased poster who is familiar with WO-S, are your thoughts on us in 3A?

<small>[ February 16, 2004, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: NewStang ]</small>

[Birdman]

To all you new guys in here, don't pay much attention to Keith7. He may be quite well-versed on Gainesville football but he has no clue about anyone else. WOS will be a huge force in 3A football for several years. They are dropping out of the most competitive 4A district in the state. They have gone 8-2 the past two years and missed out going to the playoffs in a tie-breaker each of those years. Most of their team is returning along with an intact coaching staff. To crown them next year's state champs would be silly considering the great teams we have in this state. I agree with some earlier posters that they are definately a top-5 team. The folks from Jasper will be able to vouch for their quality as both of those programs respect each other. Welcome to the 3A ranks, Mustangs! You will find a competitive, loyal, and fun group of folks througout our great state. :cool:

<small>[ February 16, 2004, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: Birdman ]</small>

[bc 76]

WOS will be the favorite next year to win all,but let me tell you class 3 a is not going to be a cake walk.Look at Jasper the last 2 yrs look at Wharton the last 4yrs ,they thought dropping to class 3a would be easy but they found out class 3a is tough.I see WOS starting the season as the number 1 ranked team in 3a but can they stay all year long?I think Dan Hooks will have them ready for the challenge.

[JasperDog94]

bc 76:
Look at Jasper the last 2 yrs,they thought dropping to class 3a would be easy but they found out class 3a is tough.I don't think that anyone from Jasper thought 3A would be easy. We were certainly a lot more competitive seing as how Jasper made it to the semi-finals two years in a row. They never did that in 4A. On the other hand WOS won 2 state championships in the 80s in 4A. They have the same head coach. I think this does make them one of the favorites, but I doubt anyone from WOS is taking 3A lightly.

[Old Cardinal]

Don't worry about Kieth 7. He is a great youth. He just can't stand anyone being recognized except Gainesville. He has little knowledge about anyone outside of Gainesville. Actually he has stepped up on the maturity issue over the last few years. It seems almost incredible that Gainesville with their giant metropolis is playing 3A ball, I think the whole enrollment situation there needs investigated.

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[Keith7]

well how in the world is a team that couldnt make the playoffs in 4A expect to be the automatic state champion in 4A.. and dont give me crap about playing in "too hard of a district" because if WOS was as good as Old Card and the Jasper people claim they are, then they would have made the playoffs.. Now until WOS can make the playoffs then they can start talkin about winning state, but not until then.. goodluck in 3A and its not gonna be a cake walk..

also, i remember at the end of the year's National Polls.. I remember Gainesville being on there.. but do not seem to remember WOS on there.. its weird how they should be ranked number 1 but not on the polls?

<small>[ February 16, 2004, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: Keith7 ]</small>

[NewStang]

Keith: No one from WO-S is claiming the title yet. Truth be told, I'm glad to hear your perspective. After knocking off the 3A state champs in 1998, beating a 14-2 state finalist in 1999, making the 4A DII state finals and beating the 4A DI champions in 2000 and beating a 4A DII state finalist in 2003, it's nice to hear that the defending champs in your new classification consider you "overrated." Don't count out a 4A team that lost two games by a combined six points. It's funny that the only teams that seem to give us much credit are the ones we've played in the past. Read up on your non-Gainesville Texas football and good luck this year.

[spiveyrat]

Birdman:
The folks from Jasper will be able to vouch for their quality as both of those programs respect each other. ...and we have been!
wink

[NewStang]

Which national rankings are you referring to, Keith? The only one I know of are the USA Today Super 25, and Gainesville wasn't on there from the list I've seen for this past year.
Maybe I'm missing it... seriously... help me out...

<small>[ February 16, 2004, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: NewStang ]</small>

[Keith7]

NewStang:
Keith: No one from WO-S is claiming the title yet. Truth be told, I'm glad to hear your perspective. After knocking off the 3A state champs in 1998, beating a 14-2 state finalist in 1999, making the 4A DII state finals and beating the 4A DI champions in 2000 and beating a 4A DII state finalist in 2003, it's nice to hear that the defending champs in your new classification consider you "overrated." Don't count out a 4A team that lost two games by a combined six points. It's funny that the only teams that seem to give us much credit are the ones we've played in the past. Read up on your non-Gainesville Texas football and good luck this year.ok well Gainesville lost their games by a total of 0 points becuase they never lost a game.. nobody cares what u did in 1998 cuz no one on that team still plays.. Your district was not that hard in 4A either, none of the teams went on to win state.. I dont understand the logic behind everyone on here thinking WOS is a top team because just because a team was good 6 years ago.. that dont mean crap in 2004...
oh and BTW its not the defending state champs saying this stuff its me (keith7) and regardless to what Old Card says, i know more about 3A football then just Gainesville..

[spiveyrat]

JasperDog94:

bc 76:
Look at Jasper the last 2 yrs,they thought dropping to class 3a would be easy but they found out class 3a is tough.I don't think that anyone from Jasper thought 3A would be easy. I'll be honest and I'll tell you I thought Jasper's '02 team would have an easy time in 3A with practically the whole '01 roster returning after a sensational 4A playoff run. We marched right through district and the playoffs until we met up with Burnet. We had the talent, we just didn't have the gameplan that day.

Similarly, I think WOS will run through district and well into the playoffs without much of a struggle.

[NewStang]

Apparently you don't, Keith...
District 20-4A is widely considered one of the two or three toughest in the state, seeing as it was composed of NINE teams, four of which have been highly ranked recently.


I dont understand the logic behind everyone on here thinking WOS is a top team because just because a team was good 6 years ago.. that dont mean crap in 2004...
Yeah, we had a pretty good team in 1998, not to mention 2003, 2002, 2000, 1997, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991, 1990, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986 and 1985. KEITH: We have the #1 all-time winning percentage in 4A since the school was founded in 1978. I would think that takes more than one year to accumulate, wouldn't you? Most people probably consider WO-S a top contender in 3A because they've been a strong team in 4A for about 20 years. And guess what, Keith? It's nice that you didn't lose a game in 2003, but 2003 will be over and done with when August rolls around.

<small>[ February 16, 2004, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: NewStang ]</small>

[spiveyrat]

Keith7:

NewStang:
Keith: No one from WO-S is claiming the title yet. Truth be told, I'm glad to hear your perspective. After knocking off the 3A state champs in 1998, beating a 14-2 state finalist in 1999, making the 4A DII state finals and beating the 4A DI champions in 2000 and beating a 4A DII state finalist in 2003, it's nice to hear that the defending champs in your new classification consider you "overrated." Don't count out a 4A team that lost two games by a combined six points. It's funny that the only teams that seem to give us much credit are the ones we've played in the past. Read up on your non-Gainesville Texas football and good luck this year.ok well Gainesville lost their games by a total of 0 points becuase they never lost a game.. nobody cares what u did in 1998 cuz no one on that team still plays.. Your district was not that hard in 4A either, none of the teams went on to win state.. I dont understand the logic behind everyone on here thinking WOS is a top team because just because a team was good 6 years ago.. that dont mean crap in 2004...
oh and BTW its not the defending state champs saying this stuff its me (keith7) and regardless to what Old Card says, i know more about 3A football then just Gainesville..So, out of curiosity, I'd like to know what feat will WOS have to accomplish to admit WOS isn't overrated? Winning district? 1 round of playoffs? 2 rounds of playoffs? 3 rounds? Or do they have to beat Gainsville?

[Keith7]

NewStang:
Apparently you don't...
District 20-4A is widely considered one of the two or three toughest in the state, seeing as it was composed of NINE teams, four of which have been highly ranked recently.


I dont understand the logic behind everyone on here thinking WOS is a top team because just because a team was good 6 years ago.. that dont mean crap in 2004...
Yeah, we had a pretty good team in 1998, not to mention 2003, 2002, 2000, 1997, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991, 1990, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986 and 1985. KEITH: We have the #1 all-time winning percentage in 4A since the school was founded in 1978. I would think that takes more than one year to accumulate, wouldn't you? Most people probably consider WO-S a top contender in 3A because they've been a strong team in 4A for about 20 years. And guess what, Keith? It's nice that you didn't lose a game in 2003, but 2003 will be over and done with when August rolls around.the 2003 season might be over, but not all the players are.. Gainesville has many key players coming back and i hope for a WOS match up just to show you that 3A would not roll over for an average 4A team

[NewStang]

Keith, NO ONE from WO-S has even hinted that we think 3A will be a cake walk. In fact, I think we've stated that MANY times. Geeeez...
You read so selectively...

<small>[ February 16, 2004, 12:55 PM: Message edited by: NewStang ]</small>

[Keith7]

spiveyrat:

Keith7:

NewStang:
Keith: No one from WO-S is claiming the title yet. Truth be told, I'm glad to hear your perspective. After knocking off the 3A state champs in 1998, beating a 14-2 state finalist in 1999, making the 4A DII state finals and beating the 4A DI champions in 2000 and beating a 4A DII state finalist in 2003, it's nice to hear that the defending champs in your new classification consider you "overrated." Don't count out a 4A team that lost two games by a combined six points. It's funny that the only teams that seem to give us much credit are the ones we've played in the past. Read up on your non-Gainesville Texas football and good luck this year.ok well Gainesville lost their games by a total of 0 points becuase they never lost a game.. nobody cares what u did in 1998 cuz no one on that team still plays.. Your district was not that hard in 4A either, none of the teams went on to win state.. I dont understand the logic behind everyone on here thinking WOS is a top team because just because a team was good 6 years ago.. that dont mean crap in 2004...
oh and BTW its not the defending state champs saying this stuff its me (keith7) and regardless to what Old Card says, i know more about 3A football then just Gainesville..So, out of curiosity, I'd like to know what feat will WOS have to accomplish to admit WOS isn't overrated? Winning district? 1 round of playoffs? 2 rounds of playoffs? 3 rounds? Or do they have to beat Gainsville?If they beat Gainesville i'd admit they arnt overrated.. but with how all these people are working them up, they would have to be state finalist to not be considered overrated

[NewStang]

KEITH: We have the #1 all-time winning percentage in 4A since the school was founded in 1978. I would think that takes more than one year to accumulate, wouldn't you? Most people probably consider WO-S a top contender in 3A because they've been a strong team in 4A for about 20 years. I'm taking it you didn't see this before.
I think we deserve the attention for dropping, but (man, I'm getting tired of saying this) no one from WO-S has said 3A would be easy.

[spiveyrat]

heh heh, Man I love realignments! It sure makes the offseason more fun! :D

[ej2525]

It sounds like the New England Pats would be overrated against Gainsville from what I hear on this board!! :rolleyes:

[Keith7]

ej2525:
It sounds like the New England Pats would be overrated against Gainsville from what I hear on this board!! :rolleyes: No they wouldnt be cuz they could actually make the playoffs

[JasperDog94]

Keith, where would you rank WOS?

[NewStang]

I'm sure he wouldn't rank them at all, based on his knowledge of WO-S, which is:
a.) They didn't make the playoffs last year
b.) That's pretty much it.

[Ranger Mom]

Awww...I gotta feel for Keith. He always ends up being the "whipping boy".....but he's OUR "whipping boy" and we love him for performing his job so well!! wink

[Gasilla]

Newstang, you're just going to have to ignore Keith. He and I have already had a minor run-in. Even if we did play them and win he would be saying that we got lucky or was ripped off by the refs, you know the type. Besides, I think he is probably about 12 anyway. It just ain't worth it.

[WOS92]

This is a funny thread :D

[JasperDog94]

Come on Keith. Instead of complaining, tell us where you would put WOS.

[duckbutter]

Keith keeps talking about how good Gainsville WAS this PAST season but Atlanta was the best team in 3a LAST yr.

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