Sinton vs. G-P?

[sinfan75]

I know, It's only July but what the hell. Accordin to some people the Wildcats have the makings of a "SUPER" team. Lots of recent move-ins has bolstered this teams strength. Last year both teams were pretty much equal. But because of these move-ins many think Sinton's gonna get destroyed. I think Sinton has a better chance than people think. Any thoughts?

[Sans Couth]

Final score 34-14

For five bucks I will tell you who wins.:D

[Gobbla2001]

Sinton was young last year, but very talented... I wasn't impressed by LAST YEAR's GP when we scrimmaged them, they got no where on O and we went everywhere on O...

I haven't read up on what they have returning this season, but I'll bet it's a nail-biter with what Sinton has coming back...

[Ray_BearKat]

From what all the GP people over at the 4ASports forum are saying they have the making of last years La Marque team and no one should be able to stop them.:confused:

[sinfan75]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
Sinton was young last year, but very talented... I wasn't impressed by LAST YEAR's GP when we scrimmaged them, they got no where on O and we went everywhere on O...

I haven't read up on what they have returning this season, but I'll bet it's a nail-biter with what Sinton has coming back... Most of their team returns from last year. QB is a transfer. Supposed to be real good. Mainly what I heard is that the move-ins have tons of speed.

[District303aPastPlayer]

Originally posted by sinfan75
Most of their team returns from last year. QB is a transfer. Supposed to be real good. Mainly what I heard is that the move-ins have tons of speed.
Is he a Taft Wildcat?

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by sinfan75
I know, It's only July but what the hell. Accordin to some people the Wildcats have the makings of a "SUPER" team. Lots of recent move-ins has bolstered this teams strength. Last year both teams were pretty much equal. But because of these move-ins many think Sinton's gonna get destroyed. I think Sinton has a better chance than people think. Any thoughts?
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Take whatever those GP posters say with a grain of salt...
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District303aPastPlayer, did Rodriquez transfer from Taft?

[PhiI C]

Good one District! :)

I may be wrong but I hope after this one we get someone in 3A such as Raymondville. This game has cost us costly injuries the past two years. I would even rather play WOS since they are in 3A. It isn't the losing that disturbed me last year but the injuries we suffered.

[sinfan75]

Cmon Phil,those injuries weren't a result of G-Ps physical play. More in the line of bad luck. Twisted ankles and bruised knees happen sometimes. t wasn't like they were carried off i an ambulance.

[sinton66]

Year before last, it was a result of stupid cheap shots though. I didn't see much of that last season, but with G-P, you never know.

[Phil C]

Maybe not 75 but it sure is a coincidence that it happened with the same team twice in a row. Pardon my professional skepticism that I have been trained in. I will be watching out for key injuries in this game and if any occures again you will have much convincing to get me to agree with you. We used to play Refugio who is in 2A but they kept getting key injuiries in the game with us so they dropped us from their schedule. Maybe a team should play in their own class. We were in 3A at the time. Maybe we should follow suit if it happens again. As George said after the game last year "We don't like 3A teams beating up on us." Of course after the next week against thier 5A opponent maybe Carrol said the same thing. :)

[sinfan75]

If you want to look at just playin 3A teams we better not play Cuero either. They're as good as any 4a team around. You gotta play some strong teams in non-district if you plan on goin deep in the play-offs. I just think it makes em a better team down the line.

[sinton66]

I think Phil's point is that G-P has a BIG hate on for Sinton. They always have. We did stop playing them for years because of the cheap shot injuries. I think we were all hoping their current Coach would put a stop to all of that, but apparently, he hasn't. SinFan75, you saw an example of that yourself year before last. That kind of stuff seems to happen everytime Sinton has a team capable of beating them. I thought Harris would be different, but I guess not.

[olddawggreen]

When does Sinton play G-P? I definatly want to hear about the results of this one.

[sinton66]

They play Sept.3 in G-P.

[Phil C]

Cuero is a 3A school like us and we have played them the past two years and have not had injuries in that game unlike with G-P. I have no objection to playing a good 3A team. G-P does have big dislike for Sinton or at least I sometimes get that impression. My wife let some kids paint my van once supporting the Pirates and it wasn't even for the G-P game and when she stopped at a car wash in Portland to get it washed they had some high school kids working there and she was under the impression they didn't want to wash the van lol. They did it but they had little enthusiasm. The manager or owner probably wasn't around that day. Hey football is one thing but making money and good will is something else. :)

[sinfan75]

We quit playin G-P back in the early 80's because they moved up to 5a. It had nothin to do with cheap shots. Plus at that time we were in like a nine team district. When G-P dropped bck down we went to 3a and were already playin Tuloso, Calallen and Robstown from 4a and 2a Refugio. so that pretty ended playin em again until the last two years. Besides I think that if Harris had gotten the AD/HC job there wouldn't be no G-P-Sinton match-up. I think he enjoyed the rivalry when he coached at Refugio and just wanted to renew it at G-P.

[sinton66]

We quit playing them back in the seventies too, for the reasons I mentioned. We used to play them all the time when I was in school. Remind me sometime and I'll tell you WHY they hate us.;)

[sinfan75]

I know we played em in the 70's cause we were in the same district But after they moved up that's when we stopped playin em.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by sinfan75
We quit playin G-P back in the early 80's because they moved up to 5a. It had nothin to do with cheap shots. Plus at that time we were in like a nine team district. When G-P dropped bck down we went to 3a and were already playin Tuloso, Calallen and Robstown from 4a and 2a Refugio. so that pretty ended playin em again until the last two years. Besides I think that if Harris had gotten the AD/HC job there wouldn't be no G-P-Sinton match-up. I think he enjoyed the rivalry when he coached at Refugio and just wanted to renew it at G-P.
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It had nothin to do with cheap shots.
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75, to put this in perspective:
I know that recently(last few years) the caller board posters made inferences toward "taking out" Alaniz and Ruiz. Thats some serious smack talk.
I heard this in person from a Portland resident before '02. I was talking coastal bend football in general and about the upcoming Sinton-GP game. This conversation happened two weeks(give or take a week) before the game in '02. The Portland resident mentioned to me that "it would be good if Alaniz was taken out". The person didn't realize I was from Sinton. :thinking:
I do believe that Harris would never endorse anything like that. He's a great coach and has my respect.

[sinton66]

Sooner or later, the Sinton kids will get a belly full of it and put a stop to all that BS. SintonFan is right, I've heard comments like that too. Remember the crap King posted on the Caller forum? That's sorta typical from their fan base. I only wish we would have played them in 2001. I think that team would have blown them out.

[spirate_9]

If we would've played them in '01, the game would've been over at half time. It would've gotten ugly.

[sinfan75]

Oh so true SP9. If my memory serves me right.Sinton and G-P were in District 15-3a from 1969 to 1980. It was like a 10 team district. G-p then moved up to 4a in 81 and 82. Then the 5a class was added and Sinton stayed in 3a , G-p stayed in 4a. Could be wrong about the class change but Sinton and G-P were district rivals for at least 12 years.

[sinton66]

Sinton was 4A there for a couple of years like around 84, because we were in Calallen's district and so was Cuero.

[sinfan75]

Yeah your right. I was thinkin about this fter a posted . When G-P moved up they went 5a we went 4a. Refugio won the 3a state title in 82. I think 84 we dropped down to 3a. But Cuero NEVER in our district. Your thinkin of Floresville.

[sinfan75]

Hell I'm wrong again. Floresville was when we moved to 3a but around 86. But not wrong about Cuero. Ask Old Green or Gobbla.

[sinton66]

Heh, heh, Old Green was the one that told ME. I knew we were in the same district with Calallen, but was surprized to learn that Cuero was also. I'm also pretty sure it was around 84 or 85.

[sinfan75]

NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!Someone gonna have to prove it to by scores of district games played at that time. CUERO WAS NEVER IN OUR DISTRICT!!!:D :D :D :thinking:

[sinton66]

I may be wrong, but I've pm'd Old Green to find out for sure.;)

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by sinfan75
NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!Someone gonna have to prove it to by scores of district games played at that time. CUERO WAS NEVER IN OUR DISTRICT!!!:D :D :D :thinking:
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I just remember the Robstown game when Flores set the coastal bend record for passing yards in the early 80's.:D
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I don't think Cuero was in our district either. But if they were it had to be very, very early 80's.;)
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I remember we played them '81 or '82(maybe both). Sorry, I wish I could be more help on this.:(
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Hey! Is that Cuero site still up? They had stats going back some time.
Gobbla or Old Green, we need help!!!

[sinfan75]

Until someone proves it Cuero was NEVER in our DISTRICT!! That's my story and I'm stickin to it.!!:D

[Old Green]

My bad SinFan75. I should have looked closer at the Old DCTF's I have. You are right . We weren't in the same district when we played those games in the 81 and 82. I thought we were but I was wrong. I 'm sorry for causing any diagreements between you and 66.:(

[sinton66]

Aw, that's ok, I gotta let 75 be right once in a while.:D :D :D

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by sinton66
Aw, that's ok, I gotta let 75 be right once in a while.:D :D :D
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That's what 75 gets for not havin a tortilla burger in the last year...
goodness, I sound like PhiI!:eek:
lol
:D

[District303aPastPlayer]

so someone tell me why did we stop playin them... you said you would tell us... so please... share the story

[sinfan75]

Originally posted by District303aPastPlayer
so someone tell me why did we stop playin them... you said you would tell us... so please... share the story Was no big reason. You gotta remember back in them days Sinton was a 10 team district. When the 5a class was created it put G-P in 5a.Sinton was considered a 4a school. I don't think G-P played anyone that wasn't 5a inthem days.When they went back down to 4a Sinton dropped to 3a. G-P kept their 5a non-distict schedule.hat prety much ended the Sinton G-P rivalry. Just my take but I promise OLD 66 gonna try and prove me wrong. I'm goin for bein right 2 in a row.:D :D :D And I'm goin by memory not readin up on this stuff.:thinking:

[sinton66]

We stopped playing them because of cheap shots and getting our key people hurt. Everytime Sinton had a team capable of beating them, that's what they resort to. Portland has always resented Sinton because we are the county seat. Way back in the 60's they even got it on a ballot to change the county seat to Portland because they were the largest town in the county. Unfortunately for them, none of the other towns in the county agreed with that, so it was defeated by a fairly large margin. They have hated us ever since. That carries over to their schools and everything else. I guarantee you, 2002 almost killed them when we beat them in their house. 75, I promise you, no matter what any "official" reason may have been, we passed up many opportunities to resume playing them.

[sinfan75]

Ya got me on that one. I was thinkin football not politics. Damn, you screwed outta 2 in a row!!:mad:

[sinton66]

No, you got me on the Cuero deal. I still think they were, only like a north zone and we were south zone. I remember a Calallen fan telling me the same thing when I was working out of Corpus in 84/85 or so. I could be wrong on that one though, it was a Loooong time ago.;) I do distinctly remember him coming into the office on the Monday after all dejected because Sinton beat them that second year in 4A.

[PhiI C]

I didn't know about the courthouse deal but I think that a law has been passed (because of many county seats moved in the middle of the night type of thing ala the colts moving to Indianapolis) and the county seat cannot be moved unless it is moved to a more central location of the county. Portland would be too far east. I may be wrong but I think that is the case.

[sinton66]

Nueces County isn't much better. They keep getting too big for their britches too. I've gotten at least four Jury Notices issued by Nueces County and mailed to my address in Odem. Apparently they don't teach geography in Nueces County. I figure one of these days they're gonna send a deputy to get me because I ignore them, and I'll have to have our local Texas Ranger escort them back across the line.;)

[sinfan75]

Originally posted by sinton66
No, you got me on the Cuero deal. I still think they were, only like a north zone and we were south zone. I remember a Calallen fan telling me the same thing when I was working out of Corpus in 84/85 or so. I could be wrong on that one though, it was a Loooong time ago.;) I do distinctly remember him coming into the office on the Monday after all dejected because Sinton beat them that second year in 4A. Sinton played Calallen in non-district in them days. That I know for sure. Sinton wasdefinetly 3a back then.

[sinton66]

Ok, I was working out of Corpus through about '90, so it could have been a 2 year stint a little later. Like I said, it was a long time ago.;) See if you can find out for me what two year span we were in 4A.

[sinton66]

Here's what Collier-Sharp shows on our history:

1983 15-AAAA 9 3 0 Mike Crowe
1982 15-AAAA 9 3 0 Mike Crowe
1981 15-AAAA 2 8 0 Mike Crowe
1980 15-AAAA 0 10 0 Ed Marchak

It may be correct, this stuff was evidently supplied C-S by the athletic department. Some of their playoff scores info doesn't look right, though. The stuff from the semi-finalist team from the early sixties looks to be messed up. I didn't realize it was a four year span instead of two.