Dave Campbells Top 25 Poll

[jason]

1. West Orange-Stark
2. Jasper
3. Perryton
4. Lindale
5. Cuero
6. Kennedale
7. Manor
8. Wharton
9. Carthage
10. Diboll
11. Sinton
12. Liberty Hill
13. Graham
14. Atlanta
15. Decatur
16. Abilene Wylie
17. Yoakum
18. Vernon
19. Liberty
20. Quinlan Ford
21. La Vernia
22. Bridgeport
23. Sealy
24. Gainesville
25. Port Isabel

Thanks to Chris, Chief Editor of TexasHSFootball.com, for providing this information. :clap:

Link to Poll via TexasHSFootball.com (http://www.texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=5114)

[spiveyrat]

LOL

[TexasHSFootball]

he is making my Top 40 look real good :rolleyes:

[Old Green]

Is this poll for real Jason?:thinking:

[kepdawg]

That's it!

[jason]

Originally posted by Old Green
Is this poll for real Jason?:thinking: yup...chris from texashsfootball.com gave it to me...

[D. R. Hooks]

Where did you find the link for this poll?

[jason]

Originally posted by D. R. Hooks
Where did you find the link for this poll? http://www.texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?showtopic=5114

[vet93]

First...I would switch Gainesville and Perryton. I would move Vernon up several spots and Kennedale down several spots. I would switch Graham and Abilene Wylie. I am sure there are a few others as well. I have also noticed that not many people are giving Sweetwater any notice this year. I think that this may be a mistake. I think that coach Jackson will produce another good team this year that will be a factor in Region I. I would rate them in the top 5 of Region I right now.

[vet93]

I also noticed that he had Celina at #14 in 2a....They may not be a top 5 team this year but I would certainly have them in my top 10.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by vet93
I also noticed that he had Celina at #14 in 2a....They may not be a top 5 team this year but I would certainly have them in my top 10.

I thought that was funny too. I looked them up on Data Poll. The won the last 57 games in a row they played in 2A winning 4 Straight State Championships. They moved up to 3A for two years on lost a total of 3 games, to 3 great teams. Daingerfield, Gainesville, and Gilmer. They move back down to 2A and they are ranked 14?

That is hillarious.

[mwynn05]

man this is torture i cant get dctfm here!!! all this talk about it makes me want to go get it the only problem is the only stores that would sell it are like 2000 or more miles away

[La Grange]

No Bellville? No Rice Consolidated? No La Grange? No Marlin?

This is a very dissapointing poll in my homer opinion :hairpunk: .

:mad:

[JasperDog94]

WHAT??? NO KIRBYVILLE???:eek: :eek: ;) ;) :p :p

[j_dog]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
WHAT??? NO KIRBYVILLE???:eek: :eek: ;) ;) :p :p
just you wate! KV will show its stuff!! :)

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by La Grange
No Bellville? No Rice Consolidated? No La Grange? No Marlin?

This is a very dissapointing poll in my homer opinion :hairpunk: .

:mad:

Didn't Bellville go through a coaching change (also hasn't seen a lotta Bellville folks on this offseason, may not have anything to talk about? I REALLY don't know)

Rice Consolidated? Good RB coming back but graduated most of their talent... Also not the same HC coming back...

La Grange? That's kinda wierd...

Marlin? Didn't they lose a lot to graduation?

And where's Kieth? Sure he'd be griping by now...

[westTXbest]

Graham is not a top 15 team . i dont like this poll

[westTXbest]

i could go on and on about this poll, it all messed up, seriously. Perryton #3 i dont think so.

[Gobbla2001]

I can understand not seeing a La Grange in at all, and a G'ville so low, but Perryton? I've never heard of them... Then again, I had never heard of Forney until they started winning... Maybe PErryton has something we don't know about? Do you know about them?

[sahen]

wow liberty is 19...someone finally thinks they will do decent but im not sure if they will do taht well...gotta learn how to get past the 1st and 2nd round of the playoffs...

[jason]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
I can understand not seeing a La Grange in at all, and a G'ville so low, but Perryton? I've never heard of them... Then again, I had never heard of Forney until they started winning... Maybe PErryton has something we don't know about? Do you know about them? perryton is in the FAR north end of the panhandle...thats who forney beat in the baseball state tournament this year...

[noitall]

I can't see Liberty being top 25 material. We lost to much to graduation. Liberty will have a smaller but more athletic team. Unfortunatly we will probably be overpowered by the larger physical teams much like Kirbyville did to us in a scrimmage last season. It should be a real dog fight for district between us, Barbers Hill, Huffman, and Splendora

[wildstangs]

Perryton number 3? Dave must know something the rest of us dont know. I would move Wylie up into the top 10 and Gainesville into the top three. Vernon should be top 15 at least. Daves' picks get crazier every year.

[Specklebelly]

Sealy in the top 25??? They will be doing good to beat out Rice, Bellville or Navasota to get in the playoffs.

[TexasHSFootball]

Originally posted by wildstangs
Perryton number 3? Dave must know something the rest of us dont know. I would move Wylie up into the top 10 and Gainesville into the top three. Vernon should be top 15 at least. Daves' picks get crazier every year.

It's making me feel better and better about my Top 40 rankings :thinking:

[lobo12]

has the magazine already come out and is sweetwaters coach jackson the father of their rb, i thought they had a rb named jackson but could be mistaken

[3afan2K3]

Originally posted by lobo12
has the magazine already come out and is sweetwaters coach jackson the father of their rb, i thought they had a rb named jackson but could be mistaken
I think it came out today

[PhiI C]

I just wish he had left Sinton off his list. I sure didn't pressure him to put us there. :mad:

[sinton66]

Didn't ANY of you notice he has Gainesville at #24? The defending state champs? Dave's been smoking something he shouldn't.:rolleyes:

[Old Green]

Originally posted by sinton66
Didn't ANY of you notice he has Gainesville at #24? The defending state champs? Dave's been smoking something he shouldn't.:rolleyes:
I noticed that. Purvey good enough by himself to carry the team.

[wildstangs]

Lobo 12, No relation between Josh Jackson and Coach Kent Jackson. Josh was a senior this year. Coach Jacksons kids are younger I think.

[jason]

Originally posted by sinton66
Didn't ANY of you notice he has Gainesville at #24? The defending state champs? Dave's been smoking something he shouldn't.:rolleyes: when i was talking to chris, thats the first thing i said 'wheres gainesville' and he just laughed at me, haha, cause he did the same thing....

[D. R. Hooks]

Why would Gainesville be rated so low? Don't they have a lot of good players coming back?

[sinton66]

Yes they do, that's why we can't figure what's in Dave's head.

[Sans Couth]

Gainesville won state last year with a roster full of juniors, including the best running back in the state.

This is gonna be interesting.

[fury900]

Originally posted by mwynn05
man this is torture i cant get dctfm here!!! all this talk about it makes me want to go get it the only problem is the only stores that would sell it are like 2000 or more miles away

http://www.texasfootball.com/index.asp

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[Ulrich von Lichtenstein]

Where did this poll come from? The Texas Football site doesn't seem to have anything about the poll or even about the magazine being out...

Does someone have inside information...? ;)

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by Ulrich von Lichtenstein
Where did this poll come from? The Texas Football site doesn't seem to have anything about the poll or even about the magazine being out...

Does someone have inside information...? ;)

It was released Tuesday at the Texas Sports Hall of Fame in Waco. I have two autographed copies on my table.

[Old Tiger]

It's like they don't try no more!!!

[3afan]

i'm surprised Rusk isnt in the top 25 - according to the Sporting News magazine they have the best 3A running back in the state (cant remember his name, I'll look it up tonight). At least he's the only 3A running back listed in the nations top 200 players.



Cody Glenn RB 5-11.5 / 211

[spiveyrat]

Originally posted by sinton66
Didn't ANY of you notice he has Gainesville at #24? The defending state champs? Dave's been smoking something he shouldn't.:rolleyes:

That's what my "LOL" response was in regards to. Actually, I thought jason had "fixed" the poll a little. ;)

Maybe Dave is trying to drum up a little controversey to spark up sales. :confused:

[3afan]

maybe Gainesville does not have enuf coming back to make a serious run at another state title? ever think of that?

[RBARKER]

Dave's polls area a joke every year. I think my son could have done a better job:D

[3afan]

at the end of the season take a look at all the preseason polls ..... i'd be willing to bet they all have close to the same success/failure rate

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by 3afan
maybe Gainesville does not have enuf coming back to make a serious run at another state title? ever think of that?

Well since they have practically everyone except McBath coming back, including the best RB in the state, I would say that theory does not hold water.

[jason]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Well since they have practically everyone except McBath coming back, including the best RB in the state, I would say that theory does not hold water. dont you talk back to him like that...hes old and wise and knows what hes talking about...:D :D :D

[spiveyrat]

Originally posted by 3afan
maybe Gainesville does not have enuf coming back to make a serious run at another state title? ever think of that?

I would think that Purvey alone would be enough to get them into post-season.

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by 3afan
maybe Gainesville does not have enuf coming back to make a serious run at another state title? ever think of that?

Gainesville has the athletes to be better this year. They have Purvey coming back. Besides McBath, their best players were sophmores and juniors. Don't be surprised if Gainesville repeats this year.

[3afan]

hey, I AGREE ...... but there has to be SOMETHING we dont know about IF in fact DCTF has them ranked 20-something in the preseason. of course Gainesville will be good, yes they could very well win 2 straight. but the DCTF folks are not stupid (easy now) ............

if I were to make an attempt at a preseason 3A poll G'ville would most certainly be "up there".

[jason]

Originally posted by 3afan
hey, I AGREE ...... but there has to be SOMETHING we dont know about IF in fact DCTF has them ranked 20-something in the preseason. of course Gainesville will be good, yes they could very well win 2 straight. but the DCTF folks are not stupid ............ maybe purvey got recruited, i mean is transferring to forney...

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by jason
maybe purvey got recruited, i mean is transferring to forney...
LOL

[WOS Mustang]

Not saying the kid from G'ville isn't good, I've never seen him, but 1 good running back cannot beat a great defense.

[Sans Couth]

They have a lot more than one great running back.

Ask the folks from Burnet and Forney.

And if that's not enough, go ask the other 13 teams that they pretty much destroyed last year on their way to the title, with their team full of sophs and juniors.

[jason]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
They have a lot more than one great running back.

Ask the folks from Burnet and Forney.

And if that's not enough, go ask the other 13 teams that they pretty much destroyed last year on their way to the title, with their team full of sophs and juniors. as much as it kills me to admit it...they were overall a great team...even with a mediocre RB like purvey...:D :D :D

[WOS Mustang]

Well then they will definitely be hard to beat. I have just heard everyone talking about the "great one" and I it seemed like he carried them. They are the defending state champs and the # 1 spot should be their's until someone can knock them off. All the # 1 ranking does is put a bullseye on your chest and it doesn't mean anything. It is decided in November and December.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by WOS Mustang
Well then they will definitely be hard to beat. I have just heard everyone talking about the "great one" and I it seemed like he carried them. They are the defending state champs and the # 1 spot should be their's until someone can knock them off. All the # 1 ranking does is put a bullseye on your chest and it doesn't mean anything. It is decided in November and December.

You are preaching to the choir WOS, we all know the bullseye theory, and the only poll that matters is in December. The problem is not that Gainesville SHOULD be ranked at number one, the problem is the disrespect Dave has shown them by ranking them 24th. He ranked Quinlan Ford above them at 20, and THEY were the one trick pony show, and he graduated. Go figure that one.

[Ulrich von Lichtenstein]

Isn't it great how a preseason poll can spark so much debate? ;)

Several of those teams listed in the Top 25 will falter this year, and there will be several who are not ranked ready to surge ahead and take their places by the time it's all said and done. It happens every year.

Picking high school football rankings is nowhere close to being an exact science, guys! Wait and see... :D

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by Ulrich von Lichtenstein
Isn't it great how a preseason poll can spark so much debate? ;)

Several of those teams listed in the Top 25 will falter this year, and there will be several who are not ranked ready to surge ahead and take their places by the time it's all said and done. It happens every year.

Picking high school football rankings is nowhere close to being an exact science, guys! Wait and see... :D

Again.....preaching to the choir.

[EastTeXBulldog]

For the guy who wanted to know..................

Cody Glenn is Rusk's star RB and college prospect.

[3afan]

yeah I had edited my post and put his name in it ....... he must be pretty good, fast too

[D. R. Hooks]

Perryton very well might be a 10-0 Top 3 ranked team by the end of the year. Unless they have a tough non-district, their competition will be weak.

[WOS1]

What's up WO-S Mustang? It's about time you stopped lurking in the shadows!!;)

I think old Dave is losing it...

[KL3]

Dave doesn't do his rankings does he? I seem to remember an article a couple years back in the magazine that talked about how there was a new guy doing the high school rankings. Ever since then the rankings have been a little off.

[TexasHSFootball]

i am going get my hands on that dang DCTF mag in an hour.. that thing has been spotted in this area. i gotta see this *crap* for myself

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by KL3
Dave doesn't do his rankings does he? I seem to remember an article a couple years back in the magazine that talked about how there was a new guy doing the high school rankings. Ever since then the rankings have been a little off.

You are correct, Dave does not do them.

[adof]

bellville!!!! should be in the top 40

[Sans Couth]

OK,

Here is something that should start a little noise.

I don't want to single out any one team, so I picked 3 out of the "DCTF Top 25" and made my head to head predicitons for this season if these teams were to play Gainesville.

No 4 Lindale 10 Gainesville 30

No 20 Quinlan Ford 0 Gainesville 40

No 25 Port Isabel 0 Gainesville 50

Commets????

[Haunta Yo]

I think Quinlan and PI could muster up a score each. No shut outs, but the spreads aren't off by more than 7 pts.

[Haunta Yo]

Hey Sans- What about #3 Parrington v. Gainesville?

[Matthew328]

Gainesville beats Perryton by 40 also...

[jason]

Originally posted by Haunta Yo
Hey Sans- What about #3 Parrington v. Gainesville? parrington?? does the 3aDL need spell checker??

[Haunta Yo]

I ain't gonna bother learning how to spell a place I've never heard of just because DAVIE has decided they're #3...

If they're playing in December, I'll spell it right and I may even find out Pairingtun's school colors.

[pinecone]

I don't like Jasper being #2. I rather trade places with Gainesville. Besides, they deserve to be #1. The trouble with being #1 or #2 is that you get embarassed in your first game and it is the talk of the state. Or at least this board!:D With wos and Jasper being #1 and #2, one of them might not even be in the top 10 the following week. I'd rather be unranked and surprise a few people.
Besides, Jasper lost a very big reason for their success last year, a guy about 6 foot 6 inches and 340 lbs, Sir Vincent Parker. He will be at the University of Houston next fall. We lost most of our offensive line. The speedy Jordan Patton will be back, however. Now if he can just get some blocking.

[j_dog]

Jasper lost "Big Mo" Cook also. :( Jasper didn't lose many players, but the ones they did wore some big shoes. Well, week zero should tell a lot.

[pinecone]

If Jasper has the injury rate we had last year, the pre season will kill us. We won't have much left for the regular season. We have a very tough pre season schedule.

I started to mention Marlon but didn' t. I think he is going to play somewhere in Arkansas. He is very short for such a big guy. If he was average height, I think a major school would have picked him. Other big shoes to fill, the punter who did an excellant job for us for 3 yrs., Johnny Land.

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
OK,

Here is something that should start a little noise.


No 25 Port Isabel 0 Gainesville 50

Commets????

You're out of your freakin' mind!!!

:D

PIs last game was no indication of what kind of team it was (If you're going by that :thinking: )

PIs playoff scores upto playin Marlin were... 28, 37, 35 and 63...

One poll has Gville at 2 and PI at 8th, while another has Gville at 24th and PI at 25th yet you with your infinite wisdom say that Gainesville will NOT only put 50 on PI, but shut them out as well LMAO. Please send a link to the scouting reports you used to make these bold statements.

This next year's PI team will probably be not as fast last years, but they will still have good speed plus it looks to be a tougher/stronger group than last years team.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
You're out of your freakin' mind!!!

:D

PIs last game was no indication of what kind of team it was (If you're going by that :thinking: )

PIs playoff scores upto playin Marlin were... 28, 37, 35 and 63...

One poll has Gville at 2 and PI at 8th, while another has Gville at 24th and PI at 25th yet you with your infinite wisdom say that Gainesville will NOT only put 50 on PI, but shut them out as well LMAO. Please send a link to the scouting reports you used to make these bold statements.

This next year's PI team will probably be not as fast last years, but they will still have good speed plus it looks to be a tougher/stronger group than last years team.

Let's look at those scores.

You scored 63 points against Rice Consolidated in a game that had about a hundred overtimes, so that 63 is fuzzy math, but nice try.

Your other wins were against Orange Grove, Hondo, and Liberty Hill. Not exactly power house teams last year.

I know it hurts PI fan, but the fact of the matter is simple. PI has a good little team down there in Northern Mexico, but they couldn't jump start a team like gainesville.

Ask Matthew, the only reason I said 50-0 was to be nice. I am sure it would probably be more like 70-0 unless they started punting on first down.

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Let's look at those scores.

You scored 63 points against Rice Consolidated in a game that had about a hundred overtimes, so that 63 is fuzzy math, but nice try.

Your other wins were against Orange Grove, Hondo, and Liberty Hill. Not exactly power house teams last year.

I know it hurts PI fan, but the fact of the matter is simple. PI has a good little team down there in Northern Mexico, but they couldn't jump start a team like gainesville.

Ask Matthew, the only reason I said 50-0 was to be nice. I am sure it would probably be more like 70-0 unless they started punting on first down.

Uhm... ok 63 minus lets say the 28pts or so they scored in OT... = 35pts still respectable against what was at the time the #8 ranked team by the AP?
Not everyone you meet in the playoffs can be 'powerhouses' :rolleyes: BUT those teams that PI beat last year, those teams beat teams like Sinton, Cuero, Yoakum.

70 - 0 LMFAO! Once again where is the link to your scouting reports? Or did u predict these scores from your crystal ball?

What's with the moronic Mexico reference? are you implying somekind of racial NON-Football comment? Geez!

[Sans Couth]

The "Northern Mexico" reference was nothing more that a geographical reference. You can't get much farther South in Texas than Port Isabel. I don't need a scouting report to make my "predicition". I am sure you don't agree with me, but there are many who will. PI may terrorize D2 in Region 4, but Gainesville would kill them. PI may be fast, but Gainesville is Big, AND Fast, AND Strong, AND athletic, AND talented, AND well coached, AND hands down a much better football team. I am sorry I hurt your feelings, but I refuse to change my mind about the match-up just because you don't agree with me. My post was really meant to make a Monkey out of DC ranking Gainesville 24, not so much as to disrespect an over-rated Port Isabel team.

By the way, Gainesville shut out several teams last year, and scored a whole bunch of points against some good teams. They shut out a 4A team from Witchita Falls 34-0, Bonham 30-0, Bridgeport 56-0, and Pilot Point 42-0. They hung 24 on Forney, 37 on Abilene Wylie, and 35 on Burnet. Trust me they could hang 50 on PI.

[Ranger Mom]

3:53 A.M.????

Sans.....when do you sleep??

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
3:53 A.M.????

Sans.....when do you sleep??

I slept a little bit this morning. I have been busy as you can tell. It is tough being a football genius.

[Matthew328]

I can't much disagree with Sans.....Gainesville would put a hurtin on PI....no disrespect...but its probably more fact than fiction...70-0...maybe a lil much...but 40-0 isn't outta question..

[WOS92]

What about Gainesville vs. WO-S? Remember - WO-S has been in the top 5 in defense in 4A since 1997.
In other words, I can understand putting us on the losing end. But if you throw up a 50, I'll have to come find you :D

[Matthew328]

LOL no one is talking Gainesville-WOS.....obvioulsy that would be close....I think the jist of the discussion is why Gainesville is ranked so low at 24.....and comparing what they'd do to some of the teams ranked above them....

#24 is absolute disrespect to what Gainesville did last season.....I don't care if their whole team graduated....the defending state champ deserves at the VERY least to be ranked in the top 5 no matter what...putting them at #24 makes everyone at DCTF look really bad....

[WOS92]

I couldn't agree with you more.
I was just curious as to everyones' predictions :P

[Phil C]

Hey Matt and WO I know it would still be disrespectful but I would trade places (Sinton at 13) for their 24th rating spot in a minute!

[JasperDog94]

I don't know that I'd put a defending state champ that graduated the house in the top 5, but certainly top 10. That is as long as they kept the same coaching staff.

That said, Gainsville is bringing back almost everybody. This is a sad day for that magazine.:(

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Matthew328
LOL no one is talking Gainesville-WOS.....obvioulsy that would be close....I think the jist of the discussion is why Gainesville is ranked so low at 24.....and comparing what they'd do to some of the teams ranked above them....

#24 is absolute disrespect to what Gainesville did last season.....I don't care if their whole team graduated....the defending state champ deserves at the VERY least to be ranked in the top 5 no matter what...putting them at #24 makes everyone at DCTF look really bad....

I believe DC Mag and THFB asks for scouting reports from the Head Coaches and base a good part of their ranking on them, do u use a method like that Matt?

First off i'd say Gainesville was an awesome team last year and could be another good team again, BUT Take Bandera... it won the D2 title in 02, but by your theory in 03 it should've been ranked in the top 5? Well Bandera was 2-8 in '03. :eek: :thinking:

Sans FYI you can go further down than PI, recheck your atlas... How many of us football fans down here in the Rio Grande Valley ever refer to our geographical locale as "Northern Mexico"?!?!?! :rolleyes: We've always said South Texas/RGV... Maybe ppl from Maine are called Southern Canadians?... :confused:

Back to Gville, they did shut out some ppl like you said, but lets take Wichita Falls Hirschi(lost 34-0), they were a team that only won a single game!!! but Gville didnt put up 50 on them... LOL
Oh wait here is another team they shutout: Bonham 30 to 0, well lo and behold thats another 1-9 team!!! (BTW a 2-8 team put up 31 against this same Bonham team)

Sans you asked for comments, i responded, but that meant I had my feelings hurt?!? :D okaaaayyyyyyyy :D

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Originally posted by Matthew328
Gainesville would put a hurtin on PI....no disrespect...but its probably more fact than fiction...70-0...maybe a lil much...but 40-0 isn't outta question..

Umm, not to burst your bubble or anything, but weren't people saying the same thing you're saying right now about Rice Consolidated before they played Port Isabel? If you have already forgotten, i'll refresh your memory......because a really funny thing happened in San Antonio, PORT ISABEL BEAT RICE CONSOLIDATED. I rest my case........

Oh yeah, Sans Couth I know you probably don't give a darn, but I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND taking back that "Northern Mexico" comment. You may not think it, but that's pretty damn low.

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by TarponFanInNorthTexas
but I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND taking back that "Northern Mexico" comment. You may not think it, but that's pretty damn low.

where is that at

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
I know it hurts PI fan, but the fact of the matter is simple. PI has a good little team down there in Northern Mexico, but they couldn't jump start a team like gainesville.

Right there. :thumbsup:

[kaorder1999]

oh....you were referring to the person being a moderator and all and had a quote from Matt so I thought you were saying that Matt said that...my bad!

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
oh....you were referring to the person being a moderator and all and had a quote from Matt so I thought you were saying that Matt said that...my bad!

Nah, it was my bad originally. Being mad sorta makes you be a little forgetful. It was Sans Couth that said it, not Matt.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by TarponFanInNorthTexas


Oh yeah, Sans Couth I know you probably don't give a darn, but I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND taking back that "Northern Mexico" comment. You may not think it, but that's pretty damn low.

Your right, I am sorry. Port Isabel is much closer to Central Mexico :D

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Your right, I am sorry. Port Isabel is much closer to Central Mexico :D

Sad.....really. I guess once ignorant, always ignorant. If you feel it necessary, keep the disrespect coming. Our players and coaches read the stuff on here too you know.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by TarponFanInNorthTexas
Sad.....really. I guess once ignorant, always ignorant. If you feel it necessary, keep the disrespect coming. Our players and coaches read the stuff on here too you know.

How did I disrespect you? I just posted my opinion of what the result would be in a football game that is not even scheduled. And I made a geographical reference to your location. I assure you that you won't hurt my feelings if you say that I live in West Arkansas, or Southern Oklahoma. So what is the problem?

[Sans Couth]

Trust me when I tell you this.

Dave Campbell putting Gainesville at No 24 right before Port Isabel at 25, is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more disprespectful to Gainesville, than me telling Port Isabel the truth about their geographical location.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by TarponFanInNorthTexas
Sad.....really. I guess once ignorant, always ignorant. If you feel it necessary, keep the disrespect coming. Our players and coaches read the stuff on here too you know.

Hypocrite.

Call me ignorant, then the me it is I who is disrespectful.

[pinecone]

Please don't offend our neighbors to the south with all this rhetoric. Mexico is an honorable nation, not a rogue state:rolleyes:

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
How did I disrespect you? I just posted my opinion of what the result would be in a football game that is not even scheduled. And I made a geographical reference to your location. I assure you that you won't hurt my feelings if you say that I live in West Arkansas, or Southern Oklahoma. So what is the problem?

FYI, people from the Rio Grande Valley consider themselves Americans, not Mexicans. Saying that we're from "Northern Mexico" questions our citizenship and we do take offense to that.

As far as you saying Gainesville would blow Port Isabel out of the water, I couldn't care less what people say how badly Team A or Team B would beat Port Isabel. Like I said before, people were talking about how badly Rice Consolidated was going to beat that little team from the Rio Grande Valley.......and our boys did their job. 35-35 at the end of regulation (no one even considered THAT possible) then 63-61 Port Isabel OVER Rice Consolidated after 4 OTs. So just keep on talking.....

[jason]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Trust me when I tell you this.

Dave Campbell putting Gainesville at No 24 right before Port Isabel at 25, is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more disprespectful to Gainesville, than me telling Port Isabel the truth about their geographical location. true

[kaorder1999]

poor gainesville....hehe

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by pinecone
Please don't offend our neighbors to the south with all this rhetoric. Mexico is an honorable nation, not a rogue state:rolleyes:

How did I offend your neighbors to the South?

You guys need to get a grip. I didn't call you names. And if yall were not so self centered you would take this post for what it is. A slap at Dave Campbell for disprespecting Gainesville. Port Isabel is just the innocent bystander in my rant. Oh, and they are also a team that Gainesville could hang 50 on with not much problem.:D

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
[B I didn't call you names. And if yall were not so self centered you would take this post for what it is. [/B]

so referring people as self-centered(as in full of themselves?) not name calling? HA HA HA... Sure Sans

What does Dave FB Mag, like u said, disrespecting Gville have to do with YOU disrespecting PI???

I can understand the rant against your almighty team Gville, but we don't figure what where u got a 50-0 or even a 70-0 score against a 10-4 PI team when Gainsville only scored 30, 34 pts on two 1-9 teams?!?! :thinking:

I heard that Gville defensive-wise will only return 2(yes two) starters :cool:

[HighSchool Fan]

Gainesville is only bringing back a couple of starters on defense. However, they are bringing back alot of players with experience. For instance, In the championship game when Burnet was driving late in the game and McGee fumbled, it was a sophmore, who didn't start, but was in there in crunch time, that recovered the fumble. Gainesville has alot of experience returning this year.

Matthew and Sans Couth are right when they say Gainesville could hang 50 or more points PI. The only team to really slow down Gainesville last year was Forney. Against most teams last year Gainesville starters were out by halftime. They will be more hungry to repeat this year than they were last year. Good luck to PI, but you don't want no part of Gainesville.

[sinton66]

so referring people as self-centered(as in full of themselves?) not name calling? HA HA HA... Sure Sans

PI-Fan, I'm not picking on you or siding with him, but technically he is correct. A NAME is a proper noun. 'Self-centered" is a descriptive adverb. There is a difference.

[RBARKER]

Wow talking about blowing something out of proportion. Sans decription of where PI is located was a joke. I think everyone gets it but the PI folks. I don't think he was calling you Mexicans or refering to anything racial. He was simply stating that PI is in WAAAAAAAY south Texas. Don't be so touchy :confused:

[Sans Couth]

Just to set the record straight. Gainesville is NOT my team. It would not hurt my feelings one bit if they played Port Isabel and got beat by a hundred points. It would also not hurt my feelings in the least if Port Isabel went 16-0 this year and won the ring. When I say that Gainesville would destroy Port Isabel on the field, it is a predicition made with my head...not my heart. My beef in this thread is with Dave Campbell for disrespecting Gainesville by placing them 24th on a list that they should be number one. I already apologized to PI fan for hurting his feelings, and I flat our refuse to make any more apologies concerning the opinions and facts that I have posted on this thread. If you get your feelings hurt because someone thinks a football team is superior to yours, or someone thinks it is funny to refer to your geographical location as North or Central Mexico, then maybe you should go back to kindergarten and practice your playing well with others skills, because your skin is never gonna be thick enough to survive a football bulletin board when zero week gets here.

[bd62]

p.i. takes a lot of pride in there team as they should.those kids give it every thing they have and are a prime example of what makes high school football great anyone who saw the 3 o.t. game in q.f. against an excellent rice team would agree.
so when someone picks them from the top 25 and says what another team would do to them the p.i. fans are going to respond to that.
there is no doubt in my mind that gaineville is a top 5 team and as the season goes on if they will show that on the field.
what seperates this board from others is that we give our opinions and observations in a respectfull manner most of the time.there is plenty of boards out there that dont do that. there is a lot of highschool football knowledge on this board from all across this state. thats what makes this board special.

[Sans Couth]

bd62,

I would venture to say that it takes a lot more knowledge of Texas Highschool Football to step up and say that Gainesville would hang 50 on a team like Port Isabel than it takes to disagree. But don't take my word for it. Go ask ten neutral experts and get back to me.

[Matthew328]

One thing about PI fans is that they'll defend their team..gotta give em that....that being said they are also the most sensitive fans around too....LOL

I still think Gainesville if they wanted could hang 50 on PI.....heck Marlin threw 41 up and Gainesville woulda beat Marlin by 4 or 5 TD's last year....

[kaorder1999]

i agree about gainesville putting 50 up on em

[PI-fan]

We are talking about this year upcoming teams? RIght? Because this disscussion is under a poll of upcoming teams. There is no way this upcoming Gainsville and its 3off/2def starters will beat PIs upcoming team by 50 let alone 70pts.

Don't assume that cuz Atlanta can beat Marlin by 4/5 TDs that Gainsville would do the same. Heck Gville only beat two 1-9 teams by 4td!! yet they could score 4/5 TDs on a state finalists??

Sans how bout txfbratings... going by last years teams they have Gville by 22pts over PI

Datapoll by 11-16 pts

I put alot more emphasis on their analysis than your so called knowledge of Tx HS FB...
how bout you name two so called experts that say a 50 pt spread... LMAO
And for this upcoming season Dave C. has em ranked behind the other while THSFB has em 6 spots apart.

Most Sans backers say it was just a joke ... get over it, etc... aren't jokes at the expense of something? In his case at PIs? sure laugh it up, thing is he is not the first or the last to refer to us down here as 'Northern Mexicans' -there is no justification for a graphical or racial referrence when you compare this to that team-what the heck does it matter where they're from UNLESS you try to imply something? :rolleyes:

There is nowhere that gives a technical definition for name calling:... in my opinion it can be an adjective, noun or adverb. For example, moronic, hideous are not nouns, but still degrade the recipient.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
We are talking about this year upcoming teams? RIght? Because this disscussion is under a poll of upcoming teams. There is no way this upcoming Gainsville and its 3off/2def starters will beat PIs upcoming team by 50 let alone 70pts.

Don't assume that cuz Atlanta can beat Marlin by 4/5 TDs that Gainsville would do the same. Heck Gville only beat two 1-9 teams by 4td!! yet they could score 4/5 TDs on a state finalists??

Sans how bout txfbratings... going by last years teams they have Gville by 22pts over PI

Datapoll by 11-16 pts

I put alot more emphasis on their analysis than your so called knowledge of Tx HS FB...
how bout you name two so called experts that say a 50 pt spread... LMAO
And for this upcoming season Dave C. has em ranked behind the other while THSFB has em 6 spots apart.

Most Sans backers say it was just a joke ... get over it, etc... aren't jokes at the expense of something? In his case at PIs? sure laugh it up, thing is he is not the first or the last to refer to us down here as 'Northern Mexicans' -there is no justification for a graphical or racial referrence when you compare this to that team-what the heck does it matter where they're from UNLESS you try to imply something? :rolleyes:

You need to get over it. I did not call you "Northern Mexicans" and all of your crying is not going to change my mind about the outcome of an imaginary game. It is my opinion that Gainesville would destroy Port Isabel, if that upsets you, then I suggest you don't read anything else with my name on it, because all of your tuning up and bawling is not going to make me "see the light".

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
You need to get over it. I did not call you "Northern Mexicans" and all of your crying is not going to change my mind about the outcome of an imaginary game. It is my opinion that Gainesville would destroy Port Isabel, if that upsets you, then I suggest you don't read anything else with my name on it, because all of your tuning up and bawling is not going to make me "see the light".

You tell me to find some experts, i think i did, then u want to change the subject? Dude, where r your experts?

You said PI was in Northern Mexico did u not?(see page 6) What are people from Northern Mexico called? Japanesse? Russian? no they are called Mexicans.

Who's crying i try to give examples as to why your arguement is wrong all you do is say take my word for it. :rolleyes:

[jason]

Originally posted by PI-fan
We are talking about this year upcoming teams? RIght? Because this disscussion is under a poll of upcoming teams. There is no way this upcoming Gainsville and its 3off/2def starters will beat PIs upcoming team by 50 let alone 70pts.

Don't assume that cuz Atlanta can beat Marlin by 4/5 TDs that Gainsville would do the same. Heck Gville only beat two 1-9 teams by 4td!! yet they could score 4/5 TDs on a state finalists??

Sans how bout txfbratings... going by last years teams they have Gville by 22pts over PI

Datapoll by 11-16 pts

I put alot more emphasis on their analysis than your so called knowledge of Tx HS FB...
how bout you name two so called experts that say a 50 pt spread... LMAO
And for this upcoming season Dave C. has em ranked behind the other while THSFB has em 6 spots apart.

Most Sans backers say it was just a joke ... get over it, etc... aren't jokes at the expense of something? In his case at PIs? sure laugh it up, thing is he is not the first or the last to refer to us down here as 'Northern Mexicans' -there is no justification for a graphical or racial referrence when you compare this to that team-what the heck does it matter where they're from UNLESS you try to imply something? :rolleyes:

There is nowhere that gives a technical definition for name calling:... in my opinion it can be an adjective, noun or adverb. For example, moronic, hideous are not nouns, but still degrade the recipient. lol, can i have the minute of my life back that i took to read that...

SANS - YOU KNOW I GOT YOUR BACK....;)

[PI-fan]

Are you the same Jason they always make fun of?

[jason]

Originally posted by PI-fan
Are you the same Jason they always make fun of? lol...something like that

[PI-fan]

well i always see ppl say here is Jason, or that Jason's _________. Especially in the pictures threads... :confused:

Ok i'm done in this thread. http://www.texashsfootball.com/board/html/emoticons/Peace.gif

[jason]

Originally posted by PI-fan
well i always see ppl say here is Jason, or that Jason's _________. Especially in the pictures threads... :confused: lol

this has a little bit as to why they choose to poke fun at me, lol

oh, its not Jason its jason

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/8533/Jason3.jpg

[Ranger Mom]

We live to make fun of Jason, (it's what I do best....I love ya Jason!!)

Anyway, in reference to the "Northern Mexico" comment. I didn't take it any other way than than PI is down there close to Mexico. For the life of me, I don't see what the big deal is.

As far as the rankings go, I could care less. We were ranked low the 2002 season and went on the play in the Championship game, we were rated high in 2003 and got beat the first round of the playoffs!

I don't see why we are arguing over someone's "opinion" of an imaginary game.

[WOS92]

I, for one, would like to have come in to this season without all the hype. While I think we'll be very successful even with a target on our backs, I wish we could have sort of stormed in and caught everyone by surprise.:D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by WOS92
I, for one, would like to have come in to this season without all the hype. While I think we'll be very successful even with a target on our backs, I wish we could have sort of stormed in and caught everyone by surprise.:D

I agree, I don't think it did us any favors by being in the Top 10 last season. We didn't do well being the "hunted"!!

[Old Green]

Originally posted by WOS92
I, for one, would like to have come in to this season without all the hype. While I think we'll be very successful even with a target on our backs, I wish we could have sort of stormed in and caught everyone by surprise.:D
You are right WOS92. I like it that way too.

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom

Anyway, in reference to the "Northern Mexico" comment. I didn't take it any other way than than PI is down there close to Mexico. For the life of me, I don't see what the big deal is.


How many of you that feel that way is actually a minority? :thinking:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by PI-fan
How many of you that feel that way is actually a minority? :thinking:

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Are you asking me if I am a minority? Are you asking me if I was a minority would I feel the same way? Or are you saying that I am in the minority because I didn't read anything sinister into it.

I am so confused!!

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
How many of you that feel that way is actually a minority? :thinking:

What is a minority?

I am afraid I am going to have to ask you to explain yourself to this simple minded layman, but I can't for the life of me find where Datapoll or txfbratings have these two teams matched in a game situation, or have Gainesville favored by the spread that you posted.

As to the rest of yall that say polls are nothing more than something to talk about....I wholeheartedly agree, that is what I have been doing. But that does not change the fact that Dave Campbell's folks dropped the ball on this one and gave Gainesville a major Diss. There is a big difference in taking 3rd place in district and scratching and clawing your way through the playoffs, and simply rolling through almost everyone on your way to a 15-0 season. Gainesville did it last season and to put them under teams like Quinlan Ford is just a blatent slap in the face.

But then again, Gainesville doesn't even get the respect from most folks of looking up how to properly spell the name of their town.

[PI-fan]

The question was

if they agree with your 'not a big deal' comment...
If you don't agree stop here :p BUT if you do... are you a minority(non-caucasian)?

Ranger mom can you please tell me what someone from Northern Mexico is referred to? Are or aren't they Mexicans?

There was NO referrence to near or close to northern Mexico as ppl try to imply, but actually implied that PI was in Northern Mexico (see page 6 :p )

Regarding the ratings they have final ratings and how they base the outcome of games is you subtract the rating of team A from team B and thats the spread.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
The question was

if they agree with your 'not a big deal' comment...
If you don't agree stop here :p BUT if you do... are you a minority(non-caucasian)?

Ranger mom can you please tell me what someone from Northern Mexico is referred to? Are or aren't they Mexicans?

He did not make any referrence to near or close to northern Mexico as ppl try to imply, but actually implied that PI was in Northern Mexico (see page 6 :p )

Is there something wrong with being a Mexican?

Even though that is not what I said, I wonder how it is disrespectful. Are you saying that Mexicans are second-class citizens?

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Is there something wrong with being a Mexican?

Even though that is not what I said, I wonder how it is disrespectful. Are you saying that Mexicans are second-class citizens?

HAHA, If i'm an American i'd expect to be called an American... Would you liked to be called an Iraqi?

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
The question was

if they agree with your 'not a big deal' comment...
If you don't agree stop here :p BUT if you do... are you a minority(non-caucasian)?

Ranger mom can you please tell me what someone from Northern Mexico is referred to? Are or aren't they Mexicans?

There was NO referrence to near or close to northern Mexico as ppl try to imply, but actually implied that PI was in Northern Mexico (see page 6 :p )

Regarding the ratings they have final ratings and how they base the outcome of games is you subtract the rating of team A from team B and thats the spread.

You need to go read the front page of data poll. The difference in rating is NOT the spread.

If your theory were correct then Gainesville would only beat Ft. Stockton by 18 points, and everyone knows Gainesville would hang 18 points on Ft. Stockton in the first 3 minutes. LOL

[Ranger Mom]

Maybe I see things in black or white (no pun intended).

IMO, if someone told me they were from Northern Mexico, it would depend on what color they were, I am sure some "caucasions" live there!

I was born in Germany...but don't have ANY german blood that I know of.

I have gone back and read it, more than once in fact, and I STILL don't see any "racial" slur to it.

I don't know what else to say!

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
HAHA, If i'm an American i'd expect to be called an American... Would you liked to be called an Iraqi?

Well I am not going to bother trying to make you look like an idiot, you are doing a good job of it all on your own now.

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
You need to go read the front page of data poll. The difference in rating is NOT the spread.

If your theory were correct then Gainesville would only beat Ft. Stockton by 18 points, and everyone knows Gainesville would hang 18 points on Ft. Stockton in the first 3 minutes. LOL

From the front of the page it links to how they are figured and from there it states...

Simple Version
the basic idea of how it works.

1. How predicted lines are determined.

The predicted line is the difference between the power ratings of the two teams.
PL=Power1-Power2
Gville power 118.5 - PI 107.2 = 11.3 difference

Another example would be
Gville 118.5 - Forney 115.5 = 3pts
These two actually played and the difference was lo and behold 3pts.

"self-centered, idiot" keep those references coming :rolleyes: you have nothing to fear from your friends/mods here at 3aDL

[Sans Couth]

OK,

From the power ratings at datapoll.

Gainesville 118.5
Bridgeport 103.4

difference 5.1

they actually played.

Gainesville won 56-0

Port Isabel 107.2

Next theory?

[Sans Couth]

I have nothing to fear from self-centered idiots either.:eek:

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Maybe I see things in black or white (no pun intended).

IMO, if someone told me they were from Northern Mexico, it would depend on what color they were, I am sure some "caucasions" live there!

I was born in Germany...but don't have ANY german blood that I know of.

I have gone back and read it, more than once in fact, and I STILL don't see any "racial" slur to it.

I don't know what else to say!

Well Ranger mom, i participated on this and other boards for awhile now, and Mexican referrences never fail to come up, so when Sans made his comment well it just rubbed the wrong way.

And i keep hinting at the possible board violations yet NONE of the mods think its out of line... :(

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
OK,

From the power ratings at datapoll.

Gainesville 118.5
Bridgeport 103.4

difference 5.1

they actually played.

Gainesville won 56-0

Port Isabel 107.2

Next theory?

Was it my theory or datapolls? lol does or doesn't state the basic version?

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by PI-fan
Well Ranger mom, i participated on this and other boards for awhile now, and Mexican referrences never fail to come up, so when Sans made his comment well it just rubbed the wrong way.

And i keep hinting at the possible board violations yet NONE of the mods think its out of line... :(

I know references like that come up, and it is unfortunate in this day and age. But I honestly don't think that is the way Sans Couth intended it.

I haven't seen any board violations that would require any "moderator" action as of yet. I will be watching this thread closely though.

We need to back off the "race card" and let this thread go on as intended. It has been hashed and rehashed enough.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
Well Ranger mom, i participated on this and other boards for awhile now, and Mexican referrences never fail to come up, so when Sans made his comment well it just rubbed the wrong way.

And i keep hinting at the possible board violations yet NONE of the mods think its out of line... :(

Is Mexican a racial slurr?

Geez don't tell us that you are a bleeding heart liberal too. I have enough of a problem with the fact that you are a crybaby:p

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Is Mexican a racial slurr?

Geez don't tell us that you are a bleeding heart liberal too. I have enough of a problem with the fact that you are a crybaby:p

:D Now trying to do some political bashing??? okayyyyy http://www.texashsfootball.com/board/html/emoticons/lame.gif

[Sans Couth]

You did not answer the question.

Please tell me where I made a racial slurr.

YOU are the only one here who seems to have a problem with being Mexican.

[Ranger Mom]

Well crap!! I feel the "mom" coming out in me now.

If you two are so determined to keep this "dialogue" going, then take it up in a PM or IM or something.

I have things I need to do!!
:D

[Sans Couth]

:tongue:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
:tongue:

Now I feel REAL "mom like"....and to quote my own mother.

"I wouldn't want that thing in my mouth either"!:D

[sinton66]

I agree with RangerMom. If you two want to take things personal and argue, do it via pm. Quit mucking up a good thread. Let's drop all the "side" issues folks.

[Sans Couth]

Ok back to the subject (though it was not I who started the OTHER one).

If you want to use the datapoll spread to strengthen your argument, then be prepared to have the same one used against you.

Port Isabel datapoll 2003 power rating 107.2

Marlin datapoll 2003 power rating 114.6

Difference 7.4

These two teams actually played.

Actual score 41-10 what happened?

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Ok back to the subject (though it was not I who started the OTHER one).

If you want to use the datapoll spread to strengthen your argument, then be prepared to have the same one used against you.

Port Isabel datapoll 2003 power rating 107.2

Marlin datapoll 2003 power rating 114.6

Difference 7.4

These two teams actually played.

Actual score 41-10 what happened?

See even Datapoll says Marlin wouldn't be able to do what it did again ! :p

PM if you really want to know what happened :eek:

[Sans Couth]

I don't need to pm you. I saw what happened. :D

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
I don't need to pm you. I saw what happened. :D

So Gville wasn't your team and neither is PI so you traveled to SA (from 100miles east of Dallas?) to watch the game... sure Sans sure :rolleyes:

[Sans Couth]

Are you questioning my integrity now too?

I said I saw what happened. And I can tell you with a straight face that I am just as much of a PI fan as I am a Gainesville fan.

[Ray_BearKat]

Yall are still carrying this on!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by Ray_BearKat
Yall are still carrying this on!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

LOL,

I hope you are not including me in tha YALL:D

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
LOL,

I hope you are not including me in tha YALL:D

This is too funny... NO he is not including you and your 15posts per day avg.

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
This is too funny... NO he is not including you and your 15posts per day avg.

Are you suffering from Post-Envy?:D

[WOS1]

Is that all Gainesville has back, 3 off. / 2 def.? I was under the impression that they had more than that.

Regardless, I see that all the love for defending champions is gone at DCTF. They should know that, quite often, teams will have consecutive appearances in the title games. Then there is Bandera...

[Pudlugger]

Port Isabel will be a good team in 2004. They should win district and go several rounds in the playoffs. Gainseville will do likewise. Neither team will win state IMHO. If they played one another it would not be 50-0 Gainesville. It would probably be Gainesville by 2 tds but PI could upset.

This thread is getting tiresome. Gainseville and PI will both get their chance to show us all their stuff. Let's wait a few weeks and come back to this issue then. Just my 2 cents.:D

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by Pudlugger
Port Isabel will be a good team in 2004. They should win district and go several rounds in the playoffs. Gainseville will do likewise. Neither team will win state IMHO. If they played one another it would not be 50-0 Gainesville. It would probably be Gainesville by 2 tds but PI could upset.

This thread is getting tiresome. Gainseville and PI will both get their chance to show us all their stuff. Let's wait a few weeks and come back to this issue then. Just my 2 cents.:D

Doc,

You sure are being silly for a man with your education. I would think a physician would be able to look at these two teams on film, then look at the height, weight, speed, and athleticism of both teams, and come up with the obvious conclusion that Gainesville would dominate physically. Are you sure you have taken the time to compare the numbers, or are you just typing with your heart?:D

[Pudlugger]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Doc,

You sure are being silly for a man with your education. I would think a physician would be able to look at these two teams on film, then look at the height, weight, speed, and athleticism of both teams, and come up with the obvious conclusion that Gainesville would dominate physically. Are you sure you have taken the time to compare the numbers, or are you just typing with your heart?:D

Call me silly if it pleases you Sans, but, as preseason predicitons go, I think mine is as valid as any. Why don't you keep your powder dry until, say, week 5 or 6 then we will have more to go on. If it turns out you are right and I am wrong I'll be the first to admit it.:)

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by Pudlugger
Call me silly if it pleases you Sans, but, as preseason predicitons go, I think mine is as valid as any. Why don't you keep your powder dry until, say, week 5 or 6 then we will have more to go on. If it turns out you are right and I am wrong I'll be the first to admit it.:)

Thanks Doc,

But as you have probably already figured, I believe in burning it while I have it. Sorry, but I just don't see the fun in prediciting imaginary games after they have been imaginarily played.:D

[Pudlugger]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Thanks Doc,

But as you have probably already figured, I believe in burning it while I have it. Sorry, but I just don't see the fun in prediciting imaginary games after they have been imaginarily played.:D

Oh I don'r know, it still might be fun after 5 or 6 games we should have a bunch more stuff to talk about, right? Now it is too hypothetical. I prefer the realm of facts and data over conjecture. Both teams will rely on untested players to step up which introduces many variables. PI is an up and coming program and I wanted to tip my hat to them. No harm intended. GV folks needn't get upset about DCTF since they will have 15 weeks to prove them wrong this year. :)

[Sans Couth]

Since we are speaking in the imaginary let's run another hypothetical up the flag pole. Let's say that Port Isabel goes 16-0 this year and brings a Ring to the Rio Grande Valley for the first time in 44 years.

Now fast forward to next year and DCTF ranks them 24th in the polls with say Progresso ranked 25th.:D

You reckon we would have to wait till 5 games deep before any REAL discussion would take place?:D

[Ray_BearKat]

We could wait for 5 games deep or we could alert PIfan of your hypothesis and in a matter of minutes we might have a few pages of you and him discussing the issue in calm and collected manner.:D Just like good ole times:D

[smustangs]

SWEETWATER? were are they?

[Pudlugger]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Since we are speaking in the imaginary let's run another hypothetical up the flag pole. Let's say that Port Isabel goes 16-0 this year and brings a Ring to the Rio Grande Valley for the first time in 44 years.

Now fast forward to next year and DCTF ranks them 24th in the polls with say Progresso ranked 25th.:D

You reckon we would have to wait till 5 games deep before any REAL discussion would take place?:D

As to who beats who by 50 points, yes. As to the apparent unwarranted low ranking of GV, no. GV should be in the top 5 in the preseason polls IMHO. No arguement there, Sans.

[sinton66]

Originally posted by Ray_BearKat
We could wait for 5 games deep or we could alert PIfan of your hypothesis and in a matter of minutes we might have a few pages of you and him discussing the issue in calm and collected manner.:D Just like good ole times:D

FACETIOUSNESS: n.pl. witty or humorous writings or sayings, jocularity.:D

[Ray_BearKat]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Doc,

You sure are being silly for a man with your education. I would think a physician would be able to look at these two teams on film, then look at the height, weight, speed, and athleticism of both teams, and come up with the obvious conclusion that Gainesville would dominate physically. Are you sure you have taken the time to compare the numbers, or are you just typing with your heart?:D

I say you can't really tell unless the teams actually played each other...take last year for example. Donna vs Lubbock Monterey, in the Texas Football Classic, NO ONE up north gave Donna a chance of winning and they even questioned why a lowly valley team was playing in the classic to begin with. Given that Monterey isn't exactly Midland Lee or some other West Texas power...they are a solid team who has made at least 3 rounds for the last 4 years. Physically Lubbock should of killed Donna but those kids went out there and played smash-mouth football with everthing they had and came out victorious. They certainly opened a lot of eyes that day. So even though Gainesville would "out man" PI you have to take into consideration the fact that the PI kids would have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Side note...another valley team will be playing in the Classic next year, I hear Harlingen has been invited to play either Pflugerville or Leander...not certain though.

[Sans Couth]

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[HighSchool Fan]

That's too funny.:D :D

[kaorder1999]

that is good!

[Matthew328]

Pure genius....LOL

[jason]

lol

[kaorder1999]

thats pretty creative

[Sans Couth]

I wanted to show yall that I have a sensitive artistic side.:smoker:

[PI-fan]

Keep your day job that was horrendous, Sans... or r u retired already? :thinking:

[Sans Couth]

Let's see thats Five votes for funny clever great genius and creative, and one vote for horrendous. Ordinarily I would make fun of you for being outnumbered, but you picked up a liittle bit of respect by knowing how to spell horrendous. However you are still in the minority.:D

[maroonpirate04]

Wow the Sinton Pirates placed in the #11 spot for 2004. Keep the winning tradition Pirates. We're behind you 100% all the way.

Go Pirates!!!!!!!!!!!! Sailing Onto Victory in 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!