9-11 Movie

[X21AAAPlayer]

Not sure if this has been brought up yet but what do you think the new 9-11 movie will have, if any on the Bush administration's re-election chances??? I for one know I will be going to see it tomorrow, anyone else?

[SintonFan]

I pray Bush will get relected.
I won't go to see it because I think Michael Moore should be tried for treason. I won't give a red cent to his propaganda.:mad:
The only people who give him credit are the socialist "French". Even folks at the Academy Awards loudly booed him. He hates America! Period. Shame on anyone who would entertain any of his thoughts.
Follow this link:Moderate movie critics are taking issue to this propaganda! (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040625/ap_on_en_mo/film_michael_moore_critics_2)
It's not the best but it gives an idea to what he really is.
DON'T FORGET! MICHAEL MOORE HAS TERRORIST BACKING FOR THIS MOVIE! Go and see it. It's your American, God-giving right!:mad: :mad:
Thank God you live in America!

[kaorder1999]

i think hes a fricking idiot....if i ever had the chance to meet him it would get real ugly quick

[PI-fan]

MICHAEL MOORE HAS TERRORIST BACKING FOR THIS MOVIE!

???

Can you elaborate more? or provide a link to news link? :thinking:

[spiveyrat]

I will not attend this movie and line the pockets of that treasonous moron!

PI, Go here:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39079

[sinton66]

Originally posted by PI-fan
MICHAEL MOORE HAS TERRORIST BACKING FOR THIS MOVIE!

???

Can you elaborate more? or provide a link to news link? :thinking:

Yes, Hezbollah contacted the organization that controls movies shown in the middle east and has offered to sponsor this movie to get it shown in as many theaters in the middle east as possible. You're NOT going to find that story in the mainstream media.

[Pudlugger]

Fahrenheit 911: the temperature that Bull$&#t burns

[spiveyrat]

Originally posted by Pudlugger
Fahrenheit 911: the temperature that Bull$&#t burns

LOL! That is just greatness! :D

[Sans Couth]

"To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery."

Christopher Hitchens



LINK (http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/)

[ej2525]

Anyone on this board "connected" that could get "close" to Michael Moore? Introduce him to Jimmy Hoffa. :rolleyes:

[X21AAAPlayer]

Originally posted by sinton66
Yes, Hezbollah contacted the organization that controls movies shown in the middle east and has offered to sponsor this movie to get it shown in as many theaters in the middle east as possible. You're NOT going to find that story in the mainstream media.
I had no idea....Well forget watching it then. The only reason I was interested in it was that I saw the movie Bowling for Columbine in English class my fresh. year of college. Turned out to be a good one but if this movie has terrorists supporting it, why the heck aren't more people standing up against it?
P.S. Thanks for the info Sinton

[WOS92]

Michael Moore is a talented filmmaker and a bigtime liar. He even admits that he left out of "Bowling for Columbine" any evidence or information that would contradict the point he wanted to get across. He was sued in the 90s for his TV show "TV Nation" for a segment in which he showed what appeared to be Ted Nugent shooting a caged, endangered animal. Turns out, Ted was shooting a deer decoy and Moore edited in some footage he'd found of a "caged hunt" operation in another country that had nothing to do w/ Nugent. He obviously got slapped pretty hard in the suit and lost all of his credibility - along with a lot of money. He's written a few books, which I'd like to point out are stuck in the "humor" section instead of the "non-fiction" section. He's a scam artist and a liberal nut. Anyone who pays to see his work should be slapped.

[GUNHO]

I have found the average person dose not realy keep up with what is going on in this world unless it is a major event.They don't listen to talk radio,watch local news,read the paper or just in general stay up with what is going on in the world and their country.I know because my wife is one of these people.She depends on me to let her know what is going on and thats ok.She herad about this movie at work and wants to go see it.She thought it was going to be kind of like the movie the Alamo or something like that.After I told her the real reason(get rid of Bush)for the movie she's ready to whup up on M. Moore.

[Cameronbystander]

There is a review in today's Star-telegram that starts off blasting MM but when it gets to the actual review, the guy can't say enough great things about the movie. It's kind of strange.

The problem is too many people are going to read this type of review and then go see the movie and think is is accurate.

I believe that this could have a real damning effect on Bush's re-election. Somebody with real information and the guts to back it up has to step forward and get the truth out.

FYI:

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/9010464.htm?1c

[spiveyrat]

Originally posted by WOS92
Michael Moore is a talented filmmaker and a bigtime liar. He even admits that he left out of "Bowling for Columbine" any evidence or information that would contradict the point he wanted to get across. He was sued in the 90s for his TV show "TV Nation" for a segment in which he showed what appeared to be Ted Nugent shooting a caged, endangered animal. Turns out, Ted was shooting a deer decoy and Moore edited in some footage he'd found of a "caged hunt" operation in another country that had nothing to do w/ Nugent. He obviously got slapped pretty hard in the suit and lost all of his credibility - along with a lot of money. He's written a few books, which I'd like to point out are stuck in the "humor" section instead of the "non-fiction" section. He's a scam artist and a liberal nut. Anyone who pays to see his work should be slapped.

I can see it now... The Caged Political Celebrity Deathmatch. In this corner, a 6'-0" conservative weighing in at 160 lbs... Ted "Take 'Em" Nugent. And in this corner, a 5'-10" Liberal weighing in at 310 lbs... Michael "Moron" Moore.

At the end of the match we'd see Ted's hand raised in victory and a skeleton in Moore's corner. :thumbsup: :evilgrin:




Oops! Did I say that out loud?:eek:

[WOS92]

hehehe... Ted would take him. I've been hunting with him and backstage at a few shows. He's closer to 6'5" and angry as hell :)

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
"To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery."

Christopher Hitchens



LINK (http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/)

From that link i was able to view another of Hitchens stories (titled Not Even a Hedgehog
The stupidity of Ronald Reagan.)
where he bashes Ex-Prez Reagan...

http://slate.msn.com/id/2101842/


"Reagan allowed Alexander Haig to greenlight the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, fired him when that went too far and led to mayhem in Beirut, then ran away from Lebanon altogether when the Marine barracks were bombed, and then unbelievably accused Tip O'Neill and the Democrats of "scuttling." Reagan sold heavy weapons to the Iranian mullahs and lied about it, saying that all the weapons he hadn't sold them (and hadn't traded for hostages in any case) would, all the same, have fit on a small truck. Reagan then diverted the profits of this criminal trade to an illegal war in Nicaragua and lied unceasingly about that, too. Reagan then modestly let his underlings maintain that he was too dense to understand the connection between the two impeachable crimes. He then switched without any apparent strain to a policy of backing Saddam Hussein against Iran."


"The fox, as has been pointed out by more than one philosopher, knows many small things, whereas the hedgehog knows one big thing. Ronald Reagan was neither a fox nor a hedgehog. He was as dumb as a stump. He could have had anyone in the world to dinner, any night of the week, but took most of his meals on a White House TV tray. He had no friends, only cronies. His children didn't like him all that much. He met his second wife—the one that you remember—because she needed to get off a Hollywood blacklist and he was the man to see. Year in and year out in Washington, I could not believe that such a man had even been a poor governor of California in a bad year, let alone that such a smart country would put up with such an obvious phony and loon."

This guy is on an ego trip trying to shoot down anyone who is in the spotlight... oh well

[Sans Couth]

Careful PI-Fan or you will be labeled a closet liberal:p

[PI-fan]

Originally posted by Sans Couth
Careful PI-Fan or you will be labeled a closet liberal:p

Im one that would vote for Clinton(Dem), yet vote for Reagan(rep), vote for JFK(Dem), yet again for Abe Lincoln(rep). :)

Are all Democrats, Liberals?

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by PI-fan
Im one that would vote for Clinton(Dem), yet vote for Reagan(rep), vote for JFK(Dem), yet again for Abe Lincoln(rep). :)

Are all Democrats, Liberals?

NO, But all Liberals are Democrats.:D

[Sans Couth]

Want an alternative Documentary to go see?

Trailer (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/video/oldTrailer_lrg.wmv)

Another Trailer (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/video/newTrailer_lrg.wmv)

[Pudlugger]

anyone who spends money to see this traitorous rat's movie is being played for a sucker IMHO.

Michael Moore thinks Americans are stupid (http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/26/103545.shtml)

[espn1]

Originally posted by Pudlugger
anyone who spends money to see this traitorous rat's movie is being played for a sucker IMHO.

Michael Moore thinks Americans are stupid (http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/26/103545.shtml)
http://www.newsmaxstore.com/nmstore/images/books/MichaelMooreFatStupid.gif

[District303aPastPlayer]

he makes a movie and everyone wants to lynch him... but all these musicians take political stands against bush, and no one says anything? to be honest, we sound hypocritical on this board bashing him and his free speech, then ignoring everyone else who is doing the same to Bush... just my opinion.

[Sans Couth]

''The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win.''

So let me ask Mr. Moore a question, since I am sure he comes to the downlow to get his finger on the pulse.:D

Mr. Moore.

Where were these "Minutemen of the Revolution" when Saddam Hussein was in power? If they were the "Revolution" why didn't they attack an army they could have defeated?

And you say it is the American People who are stupid?

[Sans Couth]

Originally posted by District303aPastPlayer
he makes a movie and everyone wants to lynch him... but all these musicians take political stands against bush, and no one says anything? to be honest, we sound hypocritical on this board bashing him and his free speech, then ignoring everyone else who is doing the same to Bush... just my opinion.

I think you are wrong. We all Bashed Willie and the Dixie Chicks for being Unpatriotic as well. Please show us someone who got a pass in this community for being a traitor.

[sinton66]

There is a BIG difference between insinuation in musical lyric, insidious interviews on late night talk shows, and Moore's outright LIES disguised as a documentary. This guy is the KING of BULL$H!T. We all know Hollywierd has moved so far left they can't even see the shoreline anymore, and we've grown accustomed to ignoring their rants, but this is different. This moron has no class whatsoever. At least the actors and musicians are somewhat entertaining at times. Moore is just a scumbag with nothing else to offer but his socialist views.

And, I agree with Sans Couth, none of them have gotten a "pass" from this community.

[District303aPastPlayer]

i never said a music lyric. jack black, the beastie boys, rage against the machine, sting and a hand full of others have all made public stands against bush and the war in iraq and nothing has been said of them. and yet, when they make these stands, the crowds they are addressing applaud them, its just amazing what a year does.

[Sans Couth]

You have to consider the venue. Michael Moore will be applauded too, by most of the folks that pay money to see his film.

[La Grange]

Last night Michael Moore was on Conaan O'Brien and he really had a lot of nice things to say about this country and what he believes in. Really the movie that he made is just showing his opinion just like what everyone on this thread is typeing. Yall are showing yalls opinion and he is showing his, that is just how I see it.

[SintonFan]

Yes, but I believe Moore's timing and the circumstances are different here.
If we are at war with terrorist and he has ties with terrorist to back his movie he should be held responsible. I don't care what the ties are, if they aid, help, bolster or in anyway benefit terrorists' agendas he should be tried as a traitor. When are people gonna get it throught their heads! Those guys want us DEAD!
In Moore's case, hiding behind free speech is just that. Hiding like the coward he is. With no thought toward the consequences of his actions.

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

is this really what america is coming too? caring more about money, and not having enought pride too stand up and say that it is wrong? i dont want to be fighting for something like that!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: i wholeheartedly fight for freedom, but not for someones care-free wishes to be supported by terrorist and supposrt terrorism:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[LWFH]

Michael Moore is entitled to his opinion, and if he can find enough people with enough money who agree with him he can make a movie about it. And if there are enough idiots in this country who will pay their hard earned money to watch this crockumentary piece of crap then he and his Hezbollah supported buddies will continue to spew their self-loathing anti American garbage and continue to encourage the terrorist scum of this world to try and impact the outcome of our elections just like they did in Spain.

The thing that really burns me up is that nobody in the "mainstream media" will expose this lying piece of excrement for what he is. Even Christopher Hitchens, as was mentioned on this board earlier, recognizes the blatant lies put forth by this movie, and Mr. Hitchens is about as far left as you can get. But will Tom Brokaw or Dan Rather point out any of the inconsistencies in Moore's story? Of course not. And don't hold your breath for a shocking investigation by 60 Minutes, either. No, Hollywierd and the media elite will lavish Moore with praise and awards, and the rest of the world will think that we are weak and divided, and it will just be harder for our brave men and women in harm's way.

Those of you on this board who feel that Moore is just a nice guy expressing his opinion need to do a little research on the man and his tactics. He is not the brave, reasoned voice of opposition, but a lying traitor who will use quotes and soundbites out of context and clever editing push his political agenda as far as he can. He has no regard for the truth, and a very warped sense of wright and wrong.

Rarely are the lines between right and wrong as clearly defined as they are in the struggle between our military and the radical islamic terrorists. This is good versus evil, plain and simple. If you do not recognize that, then there is no amount of argument or persuasion that will do any good.

Sorry for such a long rant.

Officially off the soap box now.

[SintonFan]

LWFH that was a great post! I agree with you and wonder why you don't post more?:)

[pinecone]

Why doesn't someone make a movie about John Kerry and his flimsy reasons for getting those medals in Viet Nam?

[sinton66]

Because it would be counter-productive to their agenda. Hollywierd wouldn't stand for it.

[LWFH]

Thanks for the compliment, sinton66. I love to read the board, but usually don't post unless I feel very strongly about something, and then I have to be careful because I only said about 10% of what I wanted to on this topic.

[sinton66]

That's cool, but it wasn't me, it was SintonFan that complimented you. ( Not that I wouldn't) I found your post pretty good too.

[LWFH]

Oops! Thanks SintonFan!

[LWFH]

All you guys from Sinton look the same to me.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by LWFH
Thanks for the compliment, sinton66. I love to read the board, but usually don't post unless I feel very strongly about something, and then I have to be careful because I only said about 10% of what I wanted to on this topic.
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PM me the other 90%....:cool:
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Hey sinton66 is about 7' tall living in Magnolia while I'm around 4' making my home in SA. :D
LOL You get the meaning.

[olddawggreen]

So as not to give Michael Moore any more time than I have to, I will just say, like all his other works, 911 is pure trash. Couldn't we make a fine film about him :D

[sinton66]

Go back a little on this thread, somebody has. Check out Sans Couth's link.;)

[Pudlugger]

Originally posted by La Grange
Last night Michael Moore was on Conaan O'Brien and he really had a lot of nice things to say about this country and what he believes in. Really the movie that he made is just showing his opinion just like what everyone on this thread is typeing. Yall are showing yalls opinion and he is showing his, that is just how I see it.

Moore is doing way more than express his opinion, he is engaging in the worst form of propaganda in order to undermine this nation's committment to the war on terror. If we lose our resolve to win this war it will once again come to our shores. Now we are confronting the radical Islamists on their turf rather than in our malls, airports, and night clubs.

Here is a little homework for you LG, it might give you a better prospective on the war than you get from school.

Things are looking up for America (http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson200406250853.asp)

[spiveyrat]

Originally posted by LWFH
Michael Moore is entitled to his opinion, and if he can find enough people with enough money who agree with him he can make a movie about it. And if there are enough idiots in this country who will pay their hard earned money to watch this crockumentary piece of crap then he and his Hezbollah supported buddies will continue to spew their self-loathing anti American garbage and continue to encourage the terrorist scum of this world to try and impact the outcome of our elections just like they did in Spain.

The thing that really burns me up is that nobody in the "mainstream media" will expose this lying piece of excrement for what he is. Even Christopher Hitchens, as was mentioned on this board earlier, recognizes the blatant lies put forth by this movie, and Mr. Hitchens is about as far left as you can get. But will Tom Brokaw or Dan Rather point out any of the inconsistencies in Moore's story? Of course not. And don't hold your breath for a shocking investigation by 60 Minutes, either. No, Hollywierd and the media elite will lavish Moore with praise and awards, and the rest of the world will think that we are weak and divided, and it will just be harder for our brave men and women in harm's way.

Those of you on this board who feel that Moore is just a nice guy expressing his opinion need to do a little research on the man and his tactics. He is not the brave, reasoned voice of opposition, but a lying traitor who will use quotes and soundbites out of context and clever editing push his political agenda as far as he can. He has no regard for the truth, and a very warped sense of wright and wrong.

Rarely are the lines between right and wrong as clearly defined as they are in the struggle between our military and the radical islamic terrorists. This is good versus evil, plain and simple. If you do not recognize that, then there is no amount of argument or persuasion that will do any good.

Sorry for such a long rant.

Officially off the soap box now.

Can I hear an "AMEN"???

[sinton66]

Apparently, the traitor was right about one thing, a LARGE number of Americans are indeed stupid. $21 mil the opening weekend shows that you CAN fool a lot of the people most of the time.

[Pudlugger]

Originally posted by sinton66
Apparently, the traitor was right about one thing, a LARGE number of Americans are indeed stupid. $21 mil the opening weekend shows that you CAN fool a lot of the people most of the time.

He's singing to the choir. Most voters will not be effected by this propaganda.

Apparently the FCC is invocking McCain Feingold and Moore's movie ads cannot air after July 30th. Ironic that this bad law will be employed now against Moore!

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Pudlugger
He's singing to the choir. Most voters will not be effected by this propaganda.

Apparently the FCC is invocking McCain Feingold and Moore's movie ads cannot air after July 30th. Ironic that this bad law will be employed now against Moore! That alone shows you what kind of "documentary" this is.

[JasperDog94]

I heard this on the radio this morning and I'll try to make it brief.

A guy (I can't remember his last name, but his first name was Andy) from the Mayor's office here in Houston was contacted a year ago about making a documentary on the death penalty. They said they were making it for the BBC network. They scheduled a meeting before a scheduled execution in Huntsville. The guy being executed had been on death row for 24 years for killing a DPS trooper. (Nothing like the right to a speedy trial.)

During the interview they offered him a beer. He refused but they kept the beer in the view of the camera. (I wonder why they did that?) They kept asking questions about Bush and his position on the death penalty. Andy told them they would have to ask the Bush administration.

Now Andy was part of the group that was witnessing the execution, so he was sequestered (sp?) during the execution. When he got out of the execution, all hell had broken loose:

This camera crew making this "documentary" had distributed football jerseys with this inmate's name on the back of them, brought in a marching band, and brought in a scoreboard that said, "Texas Bush 142, Florida Bush 2". They also hired "extras" to sit around in lawn chairs eating bar-b-que and drinking beer. They set up this whole thing.

Any guesses as to who's film crew this was?
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Time's up. None other than our very own Michael Moore. So the next time you see a "documentary" done by this clown, remember that what you see is his staged version of the truth.

[ej2525]

I heard on talk radio about an article written Saturday in the USA Today with a review about the 9-11 show. It points out all of the factual lies put in the movie by Mike Moore. I searched for it & came up empty handed. Anyone read that article or have a copy of it?

[JasperDog94]

ej, do you listen to 950?

[ej2525]

KPRC... Yes

[spiveyrat]

Speaking of fabrication, I saw this in an editorial this morning...



"By the way ... you do know that Michael Moore regularly lies and distorts in his films, don't you? Did you see Bowling for Columbine? Maybe you remember a six-year-old who found a gun in his mother's house and killed one of his classmates. Michael Moore told us in his film that this child was unsupervised because of welfare-to-work laws. Sounds sad, doesn't it. What didn't Moore tell you? How about the fact that the mother of this child turned him over to a relative who was running a crack house where the gun was found sitting on a bed. And Moore also didn't tell you that this child's mom admitted to beating him, sitting on him and duct-taping his arms, legs and mouth. Now why would he leave that out?

Maybe you saw Moore's Roger & Me. Remember those pitiful GM workers who were being evicted from their homes? Turns out they were never even GM workers. Oh well." -Neil Boortz http://www.boortz.com

[JasperDog94]

Sounds like Paul Harvey could make a career out of Michael Moore's stories.:)

[JasperDog94]

Because that's the only place you'll hear, "the rest ...of the story.":D :D

[ej2525]

Good Day...

[sinton66]

Originally posted by ej2525
I heard on talk radio about an article written Saturday in the USA Today with a review about the 9-11 show. It points out all of the factual lies put in the movie by Mike Moore. I searched for it & came up empty handed. Anyone read that article or have a copy of it?

Here's a link to what I think you are talking about. Pay particular attention to the text in the blue box on the left of the page.
USA Today Article (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-06-24-fahrenheit-cover_x.htm)

[Old Tiger]

I think I will be attending this one.

[PI-fan]

According to that USA today article...

For every Republican trashing Fahrenheit 9/11 as leftist propaganda, there's a reviewer lauding it as a powerful, moving and frequently humorous work of art. Roger Friedman, entertainment columnist for Fox News Channel's Web site, said that Moore has crafted "a tribute to patriotism" that "members of all political parties should see without fail."

Hmm, Fox News, how dare they say those things! :D

And in another of USA Today's articles...


The film, which criticizes President Bush's handling of events surrounding Sept. 11, 2001, shattered records even though it is playing on only 868 screens. Many moviegoers took Friday off from work and waited in line for hours. The movie will expand to several hundred more theaters over the next two weeks.


"I'm not a big fan of (Moore), but I wanted to see what all the controversy was about," says Kogan, who describes himself as "on the conservative side" politically. "I don't know if I agree with the movie, but people were talking about it afterward. I'm glad for that. Nothing wrong with talking politics."

[sinton66]

Doesn't surprize me that the rest of the media is lauding this movie. Remember, controversy sells. It's that principle he's COUNTING on. Sorry, Moore is a moronic socialist that won't see any of my money.

[ej2525]

Thanks for the link to the article Sinton66.

[spiveyrat]

And yet a darker shadow on an already shadowy figure...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628041moore1.html

I swear, half of the American public is in a deep sleep. :rolleyes: