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Sans Couth
06-03-2004, 08:01 PM
Many of these teams have an even more impressive streak if you only go back 20 years or so. But this list is for ALL TIME wins and losses by schools that have played at least 300 games.

1. Odessa Permian, Tx----------.7895: 423-108-13

2. West OrangeStark, Tx--------.7758: 239-68-3

3. Arlington Lamar, Tx----------.7422 283-96-7

4. Southlake Carroll, Tx--------.7416: 349-119-8

5. Highland Park, Tx------------.7267: 650-236-27

6. Converse Judson, Tx-----.69745: 350-149-10

7. Temple, Tx----------------.69728: 665-274-52

8. Groveton, Tx.-------------.6940: 568-241-34

9. Amarillo, Tx.--------------.6923: 671-292-22

10. Plano, Tx------------------.6889 662-286-47

11. LaMarque, Tx------------.6806 453-208-17

12. Refugio, Tx---------------.6795 537-245-31

13. Hondo, Tx----------------.6771 596-276-31

14. Phillips, Tx--------------.6706 353-168-21

15. Garrison, Tx-------------.6685 418-204-13

16. Brownwood, Tx---------.6682 611-296-20

17. Lewisville, Tx-----------.6629 496-246-25

18. Port Arthur, Tx---------.6627 588-285-58

19. Harlingen, Tx------------.6617 532-163-37

20. Crawford, Tx-----------.6616 446-221-29

21. Ballinger, Tx------------.6603 562-282-29

22. White Oak, Tx----------.6599 472-237-26

23. Littlefield, Tx------------.6598 521-262-27

24. El Campo, Tx-----------.6590 555-278-38

25. Celina, Tx--------------.6587 435-221-18

26. Sweeny, Tx------------.6550 396-202-28

27. Seagraves, Tx---------.6544 447-233-13

28. Pilot Point, Tx----------.6528 470-243-31

29. Midland Lee, Tx--------.6518 311-164-9

30. Wichita Falls, Tx-------.6506 605-314-47

Old Tiger
06-03-2004, 08:50 PM
what's cool about Southlake Carroll is they won in almost all of the classifications

VWG
06-03-2004, 09:28 PM
Interesting how far Plano has fallen since their glory days. With Plano East and Plano West opening up it curtailed the vast area of kids that Plano (the only HS at the time) could pull from.

wildstangs
06-03-2004, 09:30 PM
I guess Phillips is the only school that doesnt exist anymore.

Sans Couth
06-03-2004, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by VWG
Interesting how far Plano has fallen since their glory days. With Plano East and Plano West opening up it curtailed the vast area of kids that Plano (the only HS at the time) could pull from.

I would hardly call being in the top 30 ALL TIME winning percentages in the State of Texas a fall from grace.

There are over 1000 football teams in Texas.

SintonFan
06-03-2004, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Sans Couth
I would hardly call being in the top 30 ALL TIME winning percentages in the State of Texas a fall from grace.

There are over 1000 football teams in Texas.
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There are over 1200 right?

Sans Couth
06-03-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by SintonFan
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There are over 1200 right?

I think so. I didn't bother looking it up. That is why I said over 1000. But over 1200 is probably closer. I don't see any mediocre teams on that list.

BullFrog Dad
06-04-2004, 08:50 AM
Sans Couth, Where did Aledo rank? I figured they would've made this list.

LGHernandez#5
06-04-2004, 09:27 AM
I'm pretty surprised not to see La Grange on that list.:rolleyes:

spiveyrat
06-04-2004, 10:00 AM
I see Port Arthur is #18 on this list.
Which Port Arthur Team? TJ? SFA? Lincoln? Or is it all of them combined since they are all now combined into PA Memorial?

JasperDog94
06-04-2004, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by spiveyrat
I see Port Arthur is #18 on this list.
Which Port Arthur Team? TJ? SFA? Lincoln? Or is it all of them combined since they are all now combined into PA Memorial? I was wondering that myself. There sure seem to be a lot of games for Port Arthur.

CRHSeagle
06-04-2004, 02:48 PM
I guess West Orange Stark is the real deal. Aren't they the team thats dropping down to 3a?

3afan2K3
06-04-2004, 02:57 PM
Where did you get that list from?

GUNHO
06-04-2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by JasperDog94
I was wondering that myself. There sure seem to be a lot of games for Port Arthur.

I would say it is only T/J.They were always good befor about the '90's.

WOSgrad
06-04-2004, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by CRHSeagle
I guess West Orange Stark is the real deal. Aren't they the team thats dropping down to 3a?

While I figured they were somewhere in the Top 30, I was kinda surprised that they were that high. Then, I looked at a website and found the following about the school in its 27 years of football:

Only two losing seasons (3-7 in 1983 and 4-6 in 1992 in which the team piled up a 8-2 record but had to forfeit 4 of the games)

Only one .500 season

Ten 10+ win seasons

I guess they pile up quicker than you think.

I am also anxious to see the source of this poll.

WOS92
06-06-2004, 01:40 PM
Yes, WO-S is dropping to 3A this year.
I knew Collier-Sharp had us ranked #1 in 4A winning percentage, but I'd never seen the overall poll. Where did this come from?

Old Cardinal
06-06-2004, 01:55 PM
I am a little confused--in the olden days Hull Daisetta had the longest streak, White Oak, Daingerfield and other oil patch recruiting teams has long periods of winning on top of winnings. Is this for larger enrollment teams or for the last 3 decades?

Gasilla
06-06-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by spiveyrat
I see Port Arthur is #18 on this list.
Which Port Arthur Team? TJ? SFA? Lincoln? Or is it all of them combined since they are all now combined into PA Memorial?
TJ was always known as Port Arthur High as well. I think they may even have been named PA in the early days.

WOS92
06-06-2004, 02:48 PM
I am a little confused--in the olden days Hull Daisetta had the longest streak, White Oak, Daingerfield and other oil patch recruiting teams has long periods of winning on top of winnings. Is this for larger enrollment teams or for the last 3 decades?

I don't know. White Oak is on the list.

La Grange
06-06-2004, 03:25 PM
I am pretty sure he got it from a poster on texashsfootball.com by the name of atalltexan. That poster has devoted a lot of time with Texas, and National stats. If you really are intrested in stats look at the nation high school records on texashsfootball.com.

Matthew328
06-06-2004, 03:50 PM
I wouldnt call Daingerfield an oil patch team....maybe a steel mill team...LOL

Phillips is the defination of an oil patch team....when the oil boom was at its peak Phillips was a powerhouse that no one wanted to tangle with....once the oil dried up and Phillips Gas Co. moved out..the town and school died..

Matthew328
06-06-2004, 04:00 PM
I was curious and I wanted to look up Everman's record and it is
287-182-19 for a percentage of .612 from 1958-2003

However since the real turnaround of Everman football in 1979 Everman has a record of 200-71-8 for a winning percentage of .738

Old Green
06-06-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by La Grange
I am pretty sure he got it from a poster on texashsfootball.com by the name of atalltexan. That poster has devoted a lot of time with Texas, and National stats. If you really are intrested in stats look at the nation high school records on texashsfootball.com.
I'm curious as to where he got his stats also. I know of several teams that have won more games than a lot that are listed on this poll.

WOS92
06-06-2004, 10:05 PM
I think it's winning percentage, not total wins.

pakrat
06-06-2004, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by WOSgrad
While I figured they were somewhere in the Top 30, I was kinda surprised that they were that high. Then, I looked at a website and found the following about the school in its 27 years of football:

Only two losing seasons (3-7 in 1983 and 4-6 in 1992 in which the team piled up a 8-2 record but had to forfeit 4 of the games)

Only one .500 season

Ten 10+ win seasons

I guess they pile up quicker than you think.

I am also anxious to see the source of this poll.
Was 1992 the year of the grade book scandal when WOS got caught changing grades for football players? I couldn't believe someone finally caught them at it.:rolleyes:

Old Tiger
06-06-2004, 11:57 PM
that sucks if that was the problem, because no telling how many athletes get's grades just because they play football.

pakrat
06-07-2004, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Old Tiger
that sucks if that was the problem, because no telling how many athletes get's grades just because they play football.
A substitute teacher turned them in. Seems like he made a copy of the grade book and then later realized someone had changed the grades. I was thinking it was a later year, but it was in the '90s. I'm sure some WOS fan will jump on my b---t about it.:D

WOS92
06-07-2004, 05:50 AM
Not if you just report the facts :rolleyes:
The student had an incomplete as a result of the evacuation for Hurricane Andrew. He had yet to make up a test, therefore had received an incomplete. He never played a down, was on the bench. Our cross-town rivals were given the info - not the UIL. They sat on it for six weeks - until we'd have to forfeit enough games to miss the playoffs. Since then, the UIL has watched us like hawks. We have yet to have another infraction and have been just as strong. Go figure. :rolleyes:

WOSgrad
06-07-2004, 08:38 AM
WOS92, you are completely accurate but did not tell the rest of the story. You forgot to mention that the school that sat on this information got into the playoffs as a result of WO-S having to forfeit those games.

Old Tiger
06-07-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by pakrat
A substitute teacher turned them in. Seems like he made a copy of the grade book and then later realized someone had changed the grades. I was thinking it was a later year, but it was in the '90s. I'm sure some WOS fan will jump on my b---t about it.:D no wonder they don't lets subs into the grade books or grade papers :confused:

JasperDog94
06-07-2004, 01:07 PM
Come on guys. It's not like that's the only UIL violation WOS has had under Hooks.

WOSgrad
06-07-2004, 01:11 PM
And what others are you talking about?

I know of only one other in which the UIL found any sort of violation. One of the coaches showed up while some of the players were throwing the ball around and it was considered an illegal practice. The UIL suspended the coach that was there for a couple of games. That is the only other infraction that I know about.

Tackle75
06-07-2004, 09:21 PM
The Question about Port Arthur Football. The answer would be Lincoln.

The school has been a powerhouse in alot of the sports they are involved in.

However, they always had problems with grades.

I remember my senior year of hS playing these guys the 1st game of the season.

They whipped us 42- 0. It coulda been 100 t0 0. They were just stinking awesome.

We went on to win the next 7 0f 10 games.

They won 3 more games, then lost every game after that because the grade reports came out after the 4th game.

They lost almost 75 % of their team to failing grades.

JasperDog94
06-07-2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by WOSgrad
And what others are you talking about?

I know of only one other in which the UIL found any sort of violation. One of the coaches showed up while some of the players were throwing the ball around and it was considered an illegal practice. The UIL suspended the coach that was there for a couple of games. That is the only other infraction that I know about. My point exactly. There's more than one violation. I remeber other violations, but can't remember exactly what they were. Unfortunately the UIL doesn't keep those records on their website so I can't find any info about them. Sorry.

WOS92
06-07-2004, 11:41 PM
As far as any infractions in which the UIL has taken action, those are the only two. Trust me. I've been to every WO-S game for the past 15 years, and I'd remember. Hooks is not as dirty as the teams he consistently beats would like to believe ;)

WOS92
06-07-2004, 11:43 PM
I know that Jasper has had a few of their own run ins with the UIL. Again, the UIL doesn't offer those records on their site, so I can't really look them up.
Sorry. ;)

pakrat
06-07-2004, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by WOS92
I know that Jasper has had a few of their own run ins with the UIL. Again, the UIL doesn't offer those records on their site, so I can't really look them up.
Sorry. ;)
Hey Now, that's exciting news. I hadn't heard of Jasper having any run ins with the UIL. I know year before last they forfeited an important victory against Newton, but that was self reported and was not a UIL "run in". Tell us what Jasper did?:eek:

WOS92
06-08-2004, 12:34 AM
Probably just as much of nothing as the "other run ins" he's talking about w/ WO-S.

pakrat
06-08-2004, 12:46 AM
My cousin played football for WOS,but that was a long time ago and I don't know if Hooks was coaching then. I still want to know some specifics about Jasper.

WOS92
06-08-2004, 07:22 AM
Just like I'd love to see some specifics on WO-S. That was my point. It's not fair to say, "They did plenty of things wrong. Trust me. But I can't prove it. Sorry." It isn't fair, is it?

GUNHO
06-08-2004, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by WOS92
As far as any infractions in which the UIL has taken action, those are the only two. Trust me. I've been to every WO-S game for the past 15 years, and I'd remember. Hooks is not as dirty as the teams he consistently beats would like to believe ;)

Those are the only two I can remember as well WOS92.
Now it's no secreat that Hooks is very emotional and vocal on the field.If he thinks the ref's made a wrong call,he is going to let them know it.If he thinks he is justified in his protest the more vocal and intense he gets,but I don't think that is consider a UIL infraction.

pinecone
06-09-2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by WOS92
Just like I'd love to see some specifics on WO-S. That was my point. It's not fair to say, "They did plenty of things wrong. Trust me. But I can't prove it. Sorry." It isn't fair, is it?
The main thing that isn't fair is for you to say Jasper has had UIL infractions when they have not! You can't even recite one event.
You don't know of any because there aren't any. Not yet! Maybe we will get one this year, but I doubt it. I guarantee if Jasper had ever had an infraction, the Beaumont Enterprise would have put it in big headlines and you would know all about it.

WOS92
06-09-2004, 08:58 AM
LOL
Yeah, and I’m sure the Enterprise would have ignored those WO-S infractions that Jasper94 is referring to. So it's fair to claim infractions against WO-S even if you can't cite any? That’s my point. He couldn’t name any infractions against WO-S either. That’s because they didn’t happen. That is my point - not that Jasper has had any UIL run-ins, but that if you can’t name them, you shouldn’t throw them out there.
Maybe your sig is pretty honest there, JD94 ;)
I’m kidding.

pinecone
06-09-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by WOSgrad
And what others are you talking about?

I know of only one other in which the UIL found any sort of violation. One of the coaches showed up while some of the players were throwing the ball around and it was considered an illegal practice. The UIL suspended the coach that was there for a couple of games. That is the only other infraction that I know about.
So how did the UIL find out about this practice. Someone had to report it and have it verified. Maybe it sounded worse than it was.
I can't see any of the kids reporting it. Rumor was that it was an established habit and it took place regularly throughout the summer. I have seen almost all of the games between WOS and Jasper. It's true that Hooks works the refs. He stays on the refs constantly and I have seen calls go his way that I couldn't believe at the time. However, someone from the Golden Triangle area said Hooks has toned down his tirades because he has been warned about it by the UIL. And that is truly a rumor because I have not seen anything official about it. But I did see the 4 games mentioned forfeited and maybe that was done on the local level and not by UIL. It hurts to have W's taken that way.
Anyway, I have said enough on this subject and hope WOS can show the rest of 3A their true competitive spirit and whip everybody except Jasper.:D

WOS92
06-09-2004, 11:33 AM
"Rumor has it"
As someone who lives less than a mile from the school and who has passed it every day in the summer for more than a decade, I'll say that (first) I've never heard the rumor and (second) I've certainly never seen anything to support it. But I'm sure the sources in J-town are probably closer to the situation.
I've seen far more unbelievable calls go against WO-S than for them, but I guess we're both a bit biased, right?