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jason
05-05-2004, 04:52 PM
By RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer

NEW YORK - Spider-Man is coming to a base near you. In the latest example of a sponsor's stamp on the sports world, ads for the movie "Spider-Man 2" will be placed atop bases at 15 major league ballparks during games from June 11-13.

The promotion, announced Wednesday, is part of baseball's pitch to appeal to younger fans — and make money along the way.

"This was a unique chance to combine what is a sort of a universally popular character and our broad fan base, including the youth market we're trying to reach out to," said Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer. "It doesn't impact the play or performance of the game."

While commemorative logos have been on bases for special events such as the All-Star game or World Series (news - web sites), the Hall of Fame knew of no other commercial ads on bases, spokesman Jeff Idelson said.

Nowadays, ads can show up just about anywhere in sports.

Telecasts of major league and college football games, for example, include virtual ads visible just to TV viewers. College football bowl games are named for advertisers. Boxers' backs bear stenciled ads. Just last week, a court ruled that Kentucky Derby jockeys could wear sponsors' patches on their uniforms.

"I guess it's inevitable, but it's sad," said Fay Vincent, a former baseball commissioner and former president of Columbia Pictures, which is releasing "Spider-Man 2."

"I'm old-fashioned. I'm a romanticist. I think the bases should be protected from this. I feel the same way I do when I see jockeys wears ads: Maybe this is progress, but there's something in me that regrets it very much," he added.

The movie promotion has been in the works for more than a year and will include ad buys and ballpark events, such as giving masks to fans, said Jacqueline Parkes, baseball's senior vice president for marketing and advertising.

The ads, about 4-by-4-inches with a red background and yellow webbing, won't appear on home plate.

"Spider-Man 2" opens June 30, and the weekend in early June was picked because it is during interleague play, which draws higher attendance than usual.

"We need to reach out to a younger demographic to bring them to the ballpark," Parkes said. "They are looking for nontraditional breakthrough ways to convey 'Spider-Man' messaging. ... It's the future of how we generate excitement inside the stadium and about the game itself."

Baseball will receive about $3.6 million in a deal negotiated by Major League Baseball Properties with Marvel Studios and Columbia Pictures, a division of Sony Inc., a high-ranking baseball executive said on condition of anonymity.

The New York Yankees (news) and Boston Red Sox (news) will get more than $100,000 each, one team executive said, also on condition of anonymity. Most of the other 13 teams playing at home that weekend will get about $50,000 apiece, the team executive said.

Parkes said the amount a team receives depends on the level of its participation. Geoffrey Ammer, president of marketing for the Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group, was not immediately available for comment, spokesman Steve Elzer said.

Ralph Nader (news - web sites), a presidential candidate and consumer advocate, criticized the deal. He wrote Tuesday to baseball commissioner Bud Selig, denouncing the decision to have ads on uniforms during the season-opening series in March between the Yankees and Tampa Bay Devil Rays (news) in Tokyo.

"It's gotten beyond grotesque," Nader said. "The fans have to revolt here. Otherwise, they'll be looking at advertisements between advertisements."

Gary Ruskin, executive director of Commercial Alert, called for baseball fans to boycott Sony products. Nader is the chair of the organization's advisory board.

In separate promotions, the bases also will feature pink ribbons Sunday as part of a Mother's Day promotion to raise breast-cancer awareness, and they will have blue ribbons on Father's Day, June 20, to raise prostate-cancer awareness.

John Hirschbeck, head of the World Umpires Association, said the ads won't make it harder for umpires to make calls at the bases. And it wouldn't bother him if umpires' uniforms had ads — as long as they share the profit.

"We've got it on jockeys' pants. Why not?" he said.

Vincent, brought into baseball by commissioner A. Bartlett Giamatti, wondered how his friend would have reacted. Giamatti, who died in 1989, rhapsodized about baseball is essays such as "The Green Fields of the Mind," in which he referred to second base as a "jagged rock" in the middle of the field.

"Wherever he is, Bart is spinning," Vincent said. "It's a good thing he's not around."

kaorder1999
05-05-2004, 07:34 PM
stupid idea....stupid

crzyjournalist03
05-05-2004, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
stupid idea....stupid

see...this guy doesn't even watch baseball and he hates the idea...this kind of advertising can't be good.

kaorder1999
05-05-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
see...this guy doesn't even watch baseball and he hates the idea...this kind of advertising can't be good.

next thing will be individual sponsorships of players....

"now at bat for the Rangers....#9 third baseman and Bud Light drinker, Hank Blalock"

VWG
05-05-2004, 08:45 PM
I don't see this as that bad... but I've heard rumors about advertising on uniforms. Now, if they do go that route... that will suck.

kaorder1999
05-05-2004, 08:48 PM
i think its crap...major league baseball will do anything to make money....

crzyjournalist03
05-05-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
i think its crap...major league baseball will do anything to make money....

unless it hurts the yankees...:rolleyes:

kaorder1999
05-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
unless it hurts the yankees...:rolleyes:

very very very true!

Old Tiger
05-05-2004, 10:56 PM
good idea too bad no one pays attention to the bases

AggieJohn
05-06-2004, 12:28 AM
they are polluting a classic sport....soon they are going to be giving sponsorships for baselines or batters boxes or warning tracks

plus i would think it would be a disadvantage for umpires. i know personally i wouldn't like it because it would affect my judgement on a call.that's why the base is made white in the first place

AggieJohn
05-06-2004, 12:59 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040505/capt.ny16605052033.spider_man_on_base_ny166.jpg

this is the projected look of it.....it's just going to look like someone got it dirty or something...

SintonFan
05-06-2004, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by explayer2001
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040505/capt.ny16605052033.spider_man_on_base_ny166.jpg

this is the projected look of it.....it's just going to look like someone got it dirty or something...
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Aren't those Ranger colors???

sahen
05-06-2004, 03:01 AM
it'll be like watching pool on ESPN...we will hear everything about who sponsered the bat, the ball, the field, the batting helmet everything down to the players jock....it will suck....they need to not do stupid stuf like this...plus bases are white for a reason so the ump. can see easier when the player's foot hits it...thats why they have been taht way forever! well ok maybe not at first when they used real bags but that is why they havent changed it

Sans Couth
05-06-2004, 07:31 AM
I just can't wait to get a hold of a few of them after the game. I bet they sell on eBay for about 500 bucks apiece afterwards.:D

rholl
05-06-2004, 08:38 AM
All in all I don't really care....but heres what gets me!!! Baseball people have been crying for the past few yrs about small market vs. large market teams and teams like the Yankees that have the ability to have a 180 million dollar payroll while teams like Pittsburgh have a 40 or 50 million dollar payroll. Then along comes this deal and guess which 2 teams make the most off of it......yep New York and Boston!!!
I think it would be comical if a few players got together and put little handfuls of dirt over each advertisement so that it was covered up. It would be funny to see some TV person trying to run out and wipe it off after the inning only to have the player cover it up again when he came back out.

JasperDog94
05-06-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by VWG
I don't see this as that bad... but I've heard rumors about advertising on uniforms. Now, if they do go that route... that will suck.
That's just the next step...

AggieJohn
05-06-2004, 09:57 AM
it's like those soccer league jerseys that have like 50 sponsors on it, like you have to fund a sponsor just to be able to pay for the patches to be sewn on you have so many

crzyjournalist03
05-06-2004, 08:39 PM
well folks, the Spiderman ads have been canned:



Baseball Casts Off Spider-Man's Web

By RONALD BLUM


AP Sports Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- Spider-Man ads on bases didn't fly with baseball fans.

A day after announcing a novel promotion to put advertisements on bases next month, Major League Baseball reversed course Thursday and eliminated that part of its marketing deal for "Spider-Man 2."

"The bases were an extremely small part of this program," said Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer. "However, we understand that a segment of our fans was uncomfortable with this particular component and we do not want to detract from the fan's experience in any way."

Under the original plan, red-and-yellow ads were to appear on bases - but not home plate - during games from June 11-13. The plan began to crumble Wednesday night when the New York Yankees said they would only allow the ads on bases during batting practice - and only for one game that weekend.

While the logos will not be put on bases in big league games, it's still not certain whether they will appear during warmups.

"I thought it was good to pull it," Yankees outfielder Bernie Williams said. "For so many years, we've just had uniforms and bases with no logo. It doesn't surprise me, baseball being the conservative sport that it's always been. It's so slow to change."

The ads were to appear as part of a deal involving Major League Baseball Properties, Marvel Studios and Sony Inc., the parent of Columbia Pictures, which is releasing the movie on June 30. The promotion will go on with giveaways and other ads at ballparks that weekend.

"We listened to the fans," said Geoffrey Ammer, president of worldwide marketing for the Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group. "We never saw this coming, the reaction the fans had. It became a flashpoint - the reaction was overwhelming."

"We don't want to do anything that takes away from a fan's enjoyment of the game," he said. "Some people thought it was a great idea, but others saw it as sacrilegious."

Ammer said his group approached baseball about pulling the bases promotion.

"We could easily solve it," he said.

Many baseball purists denounced the plan, including Fay Vincent, a former baseball commissioner and president of Columbia Pictures. Having watched jockeys earn the right to have ads on their uniforms for the Kentucky Derby, some thought it was a step too far in the increasing commercialization of sports."

"I think they made a good decision to change their minds," former commissioner Peter Ueberroth said. "I don't think it makes any sense at all. It's a clutter."

Teams will have the option of having ads on their on-deck circles during games, according to Jacqueline Parkes, baseball's senior vice president for marketing and advertising.

Baseball's Hall of Fame said it could find no records of ads ever appearing on bases during games.

"At the end of the day, as we said yesterday, it was the smallest element, not that important to us," Parkes said. "While it was something originally they wanted, it is not worth risking or damaging the fans' experience."

Baseball officials were surprised by the reaction, which included several front-page stories in Wednesday's newspapers.

"It just shows the strength of major league baseball and the place people put it," Parkes said.

Minnesota Twins outfielder Torii Hunter - nicknamed "Spider-Man" for his acrobatic catches - was disappointed by the reversal.

"It's for kids, and kids love it," he said. "It would have been cool to see the Spider-Man logo for those three days. Kids could have worn their Spider-Man gear to the stadium."

Oakland outfielder Billy McMillon liked the decision.

"I just wonder where this leads to. Will it be the Bad News Bears with Chico's Bail Bonds on the back of our uniforms?" he said.

"I understand revenue, but I didn't think it would invade baseball. I never thought it would come to this. They're wise not to put it on our uniforms."

kaorder1999
05-06-2004, 08:41 PM
good....there is no way that people would have accepted the ad idea

Old Tiger
05-06-2004, 08:43 PM
i agree kaorder

kaorder1999
05-06-2004, 08:52 PM
i already never watch baseball but if they would have done the ads on the bases i....well...really wouldnt watch

AggieJohn
05-07-2004, 12:11 AM
well i guess the yankee's still get whatever they want....

JasperDog94
05-08-2004, 06:20 PM
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