Realignment Coming Soon

[arges]

I feel that the bottom of 4A should be interesting. I think that the dividing number should be between 3A and 4A will be 520-530.

Possibly moving 3A-4A: Jarrell, Van Alstyne, Lago Vista, Orangefield, Bishop, Bowie, Gladewater, Diboll. Dalhart may escape dropping.

Possibly dropping 4A-3A: Lamesa, Mexia, Orange Grove, Poteet, Huntington, Tarkington, Lorena, Llano and possibly Fairfield.

Any thoughts about this subject?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

This will most likely be last time Sinton is 4a D2 in 2020 realignment after that they'll be 4a D1 or 5a D2 for 2022 realignment.

[jason]

liberty hill probably going to 5a

[RkptFltn]

I thought sinton was way down around 700?

[arges]

I thought sinton was way down around 700?

Sinton had 633 last year according to the TEA.

[Scoop27]

Wonder when schools take attendance snapshot if they haven't already have-

[Scoop27]

Heard realignment numbers will be sent to UIL on Oct 25 which is Friday

[MUSTANG69]

This will most likely be last time Sinton is 4a D2 in 2020 realignment after that they'll be 4a D1 or 5a D2 for 2022 realignment.

I could see Sinton and Ingleside going to 4A D1 in 2022 due to the industrial growth in the Coastal Bend.

[sinfan75]

This will most likely be last time Sinton is 4a D2 in 2020 realignment after that they'll be 4a D1 or 5a D2 for 2022 realignment.

Unless there are some really big classes coming up back to back, I don't see any major change in Sintons numbers over the next 10 years. Growth is coming but not that fast.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Unless there are some really big classes coming up back to back, I don't see any major change in Sintons numbers over the next 10 years. Growth is coming but not that fast.

With Steel Dynamics wanting to be ready to operate by mid 2021 there should be atleast 400+ students from people moving in. they're thinking some of their customers companies will relocate with them. It's wait and see. I'm hoping for a new sub division been wanting to move back to Sinton. Link to video intro on Steel Dynamics http://steeldynamics.com/

[sinfan75]

With Steel Dynamics wanting to be ready to operate by mid 2021 there should be atleast 400+ students from people moving in. they're thinking some of their customers companies will relocate with them. It's wait and see. I'm hoping for a new sub division been wanting to move back to Sinton. Link to video intro on Steel Dynamics http://steeldynamics.com/

When they start hiring, people from all the surrounding towns will be getting hired. So it's going to take a few years before Sinton starts to see new move-ins and any real growth. And to tell you the truth Sinton is no where near ready for that fast of growth.

[solocam]

liberty hill probably going to 5a

They will go 5 A

[Matthew328]

They will go 5 A

I'm intrigued by the thought of Calallen and Calhoun dropping to 4A...that should make things on the coast more interesting

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I'm intrigued by the thought of Calallen and Calhoun dropping to 4A...that should make things on the coast more interesting

Put them in D-13 with the rest of us. Playing Calallen would be new deal for the Ricebirds. They have never met.

[lostaussie]

Gilmer says Hello 3A DI

[Yoe_09]

I feel that the bottom of 4A should be interesting. I think that the dividing number should be between 3A and 4A will be 520-530.

Possibly moving 3A-4A: Jarrell, Van Alstyne, Lago Vista, Orangefield, Bishop, Bowie, Gladewater, Diboll. Dalhart may escape dropping.

Possibly dropping 4A-3A: Lamesa, Mexia, Orange Grove, Poteet, Huntington, Tarkington, Lorena, Llano and possibly Fairfield.

Any thoughts about this subject?

Solid list. I know Jarrell is growing rapidly. Not sure if they will go up this realignment or next. Not sure how quickly Lago is growing, but I know they are. Keep an eye on Little River Academy. They are right outside of the Temple/Belton area, which is also exploding. Cameron and Rockdale will be staying put in 3A DI unless the number drops.

Lorena was not really on the bubble last time sitting at 577, but this is not the first time I have seen their name mentioned. I know they had very few freshmen suited out.

[arges]

Went with demographics on both Jarrell and Lago Vista. Know there are lots of new houses going up 2 both places like crazy.

[poisoned10]

Gilmer says Hello 3A DI

Is that a legit possibility?

[Gontex]

Wonder when schools take attendance snapshot if they haven't already have-

The snapshot is done in October. It probably has already been done and numbers should be in to UIL>

[arges]

The snapshot is done in October. It probably has already been done and numbers should be in to UIL>

Numbers are turned in this Friday October 25.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Is that a legit possibility?

I suppose anything's possible, but the new high school is being built to house up to 800 students.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Word on the street down in the RGV is La Feria and Hidalgo are most likely moving up to 5A DII.

There’s a very good chance Progreso may be dropping to 3A if what I’ve been hearing is true, but Lyford might be moving up to 4A to replace them.

Now if Lyford doesn’t move up to 4A that leaves 3 RGV area 4AD2 teams so hello RGV / Coastal Bend combo district.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Word on the street down in the RGV is La Feria and Hidalgo are most likely moving up to 5A DII.

There’s a very good chance Progreso may be dropping to 3A if what I’ve been hearing is true, but Lyford might be moving up to 4A to replace them.

Now if Lyford doesn’t move up to 4A that leaves 3 RGV area 4AD2 teams so hello RGV / Coastal Bend combo district.

Looks like for 2020 same teams in D15 D2 should remain D2 with maybe Bishop moving up D2. Could cause Robstown and Bishop being in D16 D2 or just Bishop if Progreso stays and Lyford moves up like Bishop.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Looks like for 2020 same teams in D15 D2 should remain D2 with maybe Bishop moving up D2. Could cause Robstown and Bishop being in D16 D2 or just Bishop if Progreso stays and Lyford moves up like Bishop.

So I see 5 possible scenarios based on your info about D15 II and what info I have.

D16 - (Progreso drops to 3A, Lyford and Bishop move up to 4A) PI, RH, Ray, Lyford, Bishop

D16 - (Progreso remains 4A, Lyford and Bishop both move up to 4A) PI, Pro, RH, Ray, Lyford

D16 - (Progreso remains 4A, Lyford and Bishop remain 3A) PI, Pro, RH, Ray, Robstown

D16 - (Progreso drops to 3A, Lyford remains 3A, Bishop moves up to 4A) PI, RH, Ray, Bishop, Robstown

D16 - (Progreso drops 3A, Lyford up to 4A Bishop stays 3A) PI, RH, Ray, Lyford, Robstown

[d0tc0m]

The snapshot is done in October. It probably has already been done and numbers should be in to UIL>

Snapshot day is Friday.

[Scoop27]

That what I posted earlier in the thread (Friday)

[Bull Butter]

Word on the street down in the RGV is La Feria and Hidalgo are most likely moving up to 5A DII.

There’s a very good chance Progreso may be dropping to 3A if what I’ve been hearing is true, but Lyford might be moving up to 4A to replace them.

Now if Lyford doesn’t move up to 4A that leaves 3 RGV area 4AD2 teams so hello RGV / Coastal Bend combo district.


La Feria & Hidalgo aren't going anywhere. Their respective administrations will see to that.

Progreso has been losing kids to IDEA schools in Weslaco. 3A for the Red Ants is a definite possibility

Lyford was rumored to go up to 4A at the last realignment. Didn't happen. I don't see it happening this time either

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

La Feria & Hidalgo aren't going anywhere. Their respective administrations will see to that.

Progreso has been losing kids to IDEA schools in Weslaco. 3A for the Red Ants is a definite possibility

Lyford was rumored to go up to 4A at the last realignment. Didn't happen. I don't see it happening this time either

I heard the same thing about Lyford last time. But Lyford is NOTORIOUS for shaving their numbers to stay just below the cutoff. They’ve done it for years! There’s always about 25-30 kids “missing” on Snapshot day and they’ve been anywhere between 10-30 below the cutoff every time.

If what I’ve been told is accurate, Lyford has just a few over 500 kids which would clearly put them in 4A. But I would bet my bottom dollar they turn in a number below 500 to the UIL.

And yes, Progreso is losing kids to IDEA Weslaco schools so I expect the Red Ants to drop to 3A. I’d be surprised if they didn’t.

[lostaussie]

Is that a legit possibility?

Probably not:D:D

[Yoe_09]

Went with demographics on both Jarrell and Lago Vista. Know there are lots of new houses going up 2 both places like crazy.

From what I'm hearing, Lorena will more than likely be moving down. Jarrell is going to be the ultimate bubble team, probably in the low 520 area. Lago Vista will be staying down as they are below 500. Academy is in the same boat, but will more than likely go up next alignment.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

So I see 5 possible scenarios based on your info about D15 II and what info I have.

D16 - (Progreso drops to 3A, Lyford and Bishop move up to 4A) PI, RH, Ray, Lyford, Bishop

D16 - (Progreso remains 4A, Lyford and Bishop both move up to 4A) PI, Pro, RH, Ray, Lyford

D16 - (Progreso remains 4A, Lyford and Bishop remain 3A) PI, Pro, RH, Ray, Robstown

D16 - (Progreso drops to 3A, Lyford remains 3A, Bishop moves up to 4A) PI, RH, Ray, Bishop, Robstown

D16 - (Progreso drops 3A, Lyford up to 4A Bishop stays 3A) PI, RH, Ray, Lyford, Robstown

If Progeso drops and Bishop and Lyford don't move up wonder if they'll combine 15&16 making it 9 team district or move OG or Robstown to D16.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

If Progeso drops and Bishop and Lyford don't move up wonder if they'll combine 15&16 making it 9 team district or move OG or Robstown to D16.

Most likely they move Robstown and OG to D16 in order to avoid another 4-team district debacle. What would that leave in D15 though?

Sinton, Ingleside, Rockport, West Oso.....dare I say they put Cuero and Sweeny back in D15 to make it a 6-team district?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Most likely they move Robstown and OG to D16 in order to avoid another 4-team district debacle. What would that leave in D15 though?

Sinton, Ingleside, Rockport, West Oso.....dare I say they put Cuero and Sweeny back in D15 to make it a 6-team district?

Hearing Rockport might be back to D1 numbers, will see tomorrow.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Hearing Rockport might be back to D1 numbers, will see tomorrow.

Interesting! If that is indeed the case, then add Wharton. The UIL has done it before.....

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Hearing Rockport might be back to D1 numbers, will see tomorrow.

Also, try to find out some info regarding Calallen. If what Matt Stepp said earlier in the thread is true, then that would be a huge game changer in 4A D1.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Also, try to find out some info regarding Calallen. If what Matt Stepp said earlier in the thread is true, then that would be a huge game changer in 4A D1.

Port Lavaca Calhoun hearing most likely dropping to 4a, better odds in that along with Tuloso Midway

[Matthew328]

Port Lavaca Calhoun hearing most likely dropping to 4a, better odds in that along with Tuloso Midway

I'll be surprised if Calallen drops...Calhoun and T-M are likely to drop

[Ville-D]

Stephenville 1059

[Bosqueville]

Brownwood 960.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Gonzales 833

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Liberty Hill 1340
Hello 5a

[Razorback88]

Andrews 1222

[Scoop27]

Boling 370

[YTBulldogs]

Yoakum 466

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Rockport-Fulton 875

back to D1

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Port Lavaca Calhoun 1072

4a D1
ouch R3 or R4

should be R4 with Rockport in thier district

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Port Lavaca Calhoun 1072

4a D1
ouch R3 or R4

should be R4 with Rockport in thier district

They will go to D-13 if they don't opt to stay in 5A.

[Scoop27]

Wharton 569

[Yoe_09]

According to Matt Stepp at DCTF, Caldwell is at 500. Not a huge surprise as they were not that much higher last go-around. Should certainly drop.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Port Lavaca Calhoun 1072

4a D1
ouch R3 or R4

should be R4 with Rockport in thier district

PLC most likely goes Region IV

[RkptFltn]

PLC most likely goes Region IV

possibly with Rockport, tuloso midway, gonzales, and beeville

[Rocket Man]

Anyone have access to the numbers for Central Texas schools?

[Scoop27]

Any word on Sweeny or Needville numbers?

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

I’ll be at the Port Isabel game tonight, I’ll talk to some administrators and try to find out what number was turned in to the UIL.

[sk1]

Any word on Sweeny or Needville numbers?

Needville 1027
Sweeny 568

[Saggy Aggie]

https://www.texasfootball.com/

Matt has majority of them

Argyle around 1050

Fulshear > 1400, moving up

[Scoop27]

What about El Campo?

[Rocket Man]

https://www.texasfootball.com/

Matt has majority of them

Argyle around 1050

Fulshear > 1400, moving up

I don’t have access.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Just saw this from a Corpus Christi area source.

Corpus Christi Calallen - 1192
Tuloso Midway - 1145

If Calallen does drop down to 4A......I think they get their state title chance.

[sk1]

What about El Campo?

Nothing on them yet

[Scoop27]

Also looking for Bay City and Sealy

[RkptFltn]

Would a school opt to stay 5a? I know Tuloso Midway has a strong swimming program and a state championship theater program. Would those programs lose funding if they move down to 4a?

[RkptFltn]

also what are the projected classification cutoffs?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

also what are the projected classification cutoffs?

Hearing 1200 and up might be 5a D2 so Calallen and Port Lavaca Calhoun same district throw in Rockport, Tuloso Midway and Beeville looking like a possibility, but wait and see where cuttoff will be put it was 1150 for 5a D2 last alignment.

[RkptFltn]

Hearing 1200 and up might be 5a D2 so Calallen and Port Lavaca Calhoun same district throw in Rockport, Tuloso Midway and Beeville looking like a possibility wait and see where cuttoff will be put it was 1150 for 5a D2 last alignment.

Gonzales or pleasanton also?

[sk1]

Gonzales or pleasanton also?

Gonzales 833

[Scoop27]

Didn't see Columbia or Brazosport either

[RkptFltn]

Just saw this from a Corpus Christi area source.

Corpus Christi Calallen - 1192
Tuloso Midway - 1145

If Calallen does drop down to 4A......I think they get their state title chance.

If this happens, then add Calhoun, a strong Beeville program, then what Rockport has been able to string together in the past 5 years, thats one of the better districts in 4aD1.

[sk1]

El Campo 1154

[SintonFan_inAustin]

If this happens, then add Calhoun, a strong Beeville program, then what Rockport has been able to string together in the past 5 years, thats one of the better districts in 4aD1.

RF has the HC son next year as a Fr, passing qb and pretty good.

[Scoop27]

Hard to believe Refugio's enrollment is 204.5-

[RkptFltn]

RF has the HC son next year as a Fr, passing qb and pretty good.

Very good for his age. A little thin right now, but he will fill out.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

If this happens, then add Calhoun, a strong Beeville program, then what Rockport has been able to string together in the past 5 years, thats one of the better districts in 4aD1.

Toss in Pleasanton and that’s a pretty solid 6 team district.

Also hearing Bishop to 4A. Can anyone here confirm?

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Just saw this from a Corpus Christi area source.

Corpus Christi Calallen - 1192
Tuloso Midway - 1145

If Calallen does drop down to 4A......I think they get their state title chance.


Yea, but if the District 13 teams stay in R4 it won't be easy. Far from it.

[GUNHO]

Just saw this from a Corpus Christi area source.

Corpus Christi Calallen - 1192
Tuloso Midway - 1145

If Calallen does drop down to 4A......I think they get their state title chance.

Calallan has had some outstanding teams but seems to always fall short.WOS played them in the semi in 2000.They were leading with just minutes left in the game and we had to give them the ball back.When they had the ball they would just grind it out and keep your offense off the field.I thought it was all over at that point but some how we held them...3 and out.We hit some big plays and scored the go ahead touchdown with just seconds left.Calallan is certainly due.

[Twirling Time]

Ferris 765.5

Stays 4A-II

[Saggy Aggie]

I don’t have access.

Well, you can pay to get access....

[Rocket Man]

Well, you can pay to get access....

Yeah, I know....I just like free :1popcorn:

[Scoop27]

Bay City 983
Sealy 806

[Yoe_09]

According to Matt Stepp at DCTF, Caldwell is at 500. Not a huge surprise as they were not that much higher last go-around. Should certainly drop.

Number has since been adjusted to 515.

[cougartino]

Calallan has had some outstanding teams but seems to always fall short.WOS played them in the semi in 2000.They were leading with just minutes left in the game and we had to give them the ball back.When they had the ball they would just grind it out and keep your offense off the field.I thought it was all over at that point but some how we held them...3 and out.We hit some big plays and scored the go ahead touchdown with just seconds left.Calallan is certainly due.

I can guarantee this, if they move down to 4A, they'll never have to deal with La Marque again.

[SHSBulldog00]

Calallen turned in 1,192

For them to drop to 4A DI the cutoff number would have to increase by 45-50.

It's not likely to jump that high, is it?

[NastySlot]

Solid list. I know Jarrell is growing rapidly. Not sure if they will go up this realignment or next. Not sure how quickly Lago is growing, but I know they are. Keep an eye on Little River Academy. They are right outside of the Temple/Belton area, which is also exploding. Cameron and Rockdale will be staying put in 3A DI unless the number drops.

Lorena was not really on the bubble last time sitting at 577, but this is not the first time I have seen their name mentioned. I know they had very few freshmen suited out.


Speaking to coaches in the area, they felt Jarrell might just make it into 4A, LRA- folks felt like reclassification might keep them in 3A for two more years but after that they thought they would go up.

Other talk was about new Belton H.S being in 4A, and maybe both Manor New Tech and Lago Vista.

Liberty Hill is feeling growth on the elementary campuses, but those H.S numbers may get them into 5A.

[Yoe_09]

Speaking to coaches in the area, they felt Jarrell might just make it into 4A, LRA- folks felt like reclassification might keep them in 3A for two more years but after that they thought they would go up.

Other talk was about new Belton H.S being in 4A, and maybe both Manor New Tech and Lago Vista.

Liberty Hill is feeling growth on the elementary campuses, but those H.S numbers may get them into 5A.

With Jarrell at 519 and New Tech at 522, I could see both moving up. I read somewhere that Fairfield turned in 505, like Lorena. Lago Vista is still under 500, so they will not be going anywhere quite yet. Academy still in the mid 450s, but I know they have larger classes coming up. I'm interested to see what Mexia turned in as well.

[NastySlot]

With Jarrell at 519 and New Tech at 522, I could see both moving up. I read somewhere that Fairfield turned in 505, like Lorena. Lago Vista is still under 500, so they will not be going anywhere quite yet. Academy still in the mid 450s, but I know they have larger classes coming up. I'm interested to see what Mexia turned in as well.


Not sure about Mexia but I do know they aren't fielding a freshman fb team now. I know that doesn't really give true indication of enrollment numbers. I spoke a Lorena coach earlier in the year and he felt they would be going down.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Calallen turned in 1,192

For them to drop to 4A DI the cutoff number would have to increase by 45-50.

It's not likely to jump that high, is it?
5a website mention last two realignments its increased by 50 from top 4a to bottom 5a.

[SHSBulldog00]

Speaking to coaches in the area, they felt Jarrell might just make it into 4A, LRA- folks felt like reclassification might keep them in 3A for two more years but after that they thought they would go up.

Other talk was about new Belton H.S being in 4A, and maybe both Manor New Tech and Lago Vista.

Liberty Hill is feeling growth on the elementary campuses, but those H.S numbers may get them into 5A.

What is the name of the new Belton HS?

[SHSBulldog00]

Is there a list of the New schools in this realignment?
Depending on the number of schools and their enrollments it could make the cutoff jump 50.
How far could the bottom number go 505-520?

[Bosqueville]

What is the name of the new Belton HS?

Lake Belton High School

[Scoop27]

If Calhoun moves down to Class 4A (Division 1) They would probably put them with El Campo, Bay City, Columbia, Brazosport, Needville and Sealy. (Since Fulshear is moving up to Class 5A)

[SHSBulldog00]

I agree with Scoop old 4A District from the 90's.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

I agree with Scoop old 4A District from the 90's.

Calallen and Tuloso Midway move down with Rockport-Fulton moving up i can see them with Beeville and Port Lavaca Calhoun. I believe these teams were in a district not to long ago.

[SHSBulldog00]

Not 4A but big news

The Munday Moguls are expecting to drop to 6 MAN.

[NastySlot]

Lake Belton High School


Located in West Temple.

[NastySlot]

Is there a list of the New schools in this realignment?
Depending on the number of schools and their enrollments it could make the cutoff jump 50.
How far could the bottom number go 505-520?

I know of a new Johnson H.S in the Hays CISD.

[d0tc0m]

Not 4A but big news

The Munday Moguls are expecting to drop to 6 MAN.


I thought I saw where they were going to opt into 11-man, unless the Sup and/or AD heard enough community-wide concern convincing him not to.

[scrub c]

I heard West Columbia was dropping to 4ADII with sweeny, wharton and sealy. anybody else heard that?

[Scoop27]

Sweeny 568
Sealy 806
Wharton 569
Didn't see Columbia's number

[sk1]

Sweeny 568
Sealy 806
Wharton 569
Didn't see Columbia's number

West Columbia 904

[SHSBulldog00]

I thought I saw where they were going to opt into 11-man, unless the Sup and/or AD heard enough community-wide concern convincing him not to.

News this morning is they are staying 11 man

[SHSBulldog00]

I heard West Columbia was dropping to 4ADII with sweeny, wharton and sealy. anybody else heard that?

Columbia is staying D1

[d0tc0m]

I haven't seen Celina's numbers, but I'm 100% certain they'll stay Division I. I'm not sure how they stack up against the other teams in Region II, District 7, but I imagine they're somewhere in the middle.

[Scoop27]

99 % sure that Wharton, Sweeny and La Marque will be in the same district-Don't know about Houston ISD schools will be with them

[SintonFan_inAustin]

99 % sure that Wharton, Sweeny and La Marque will be in the same district-Don't know about Houston ISD schools will be with themi'll say the 1 percent a possible D15 D2 Wharton, Sweeny, Cuero, Sinton and Ingleside

D16 D2
Raymondville, Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Orange Grove, Robdstown and West Oso. Orange Grove might be on the border of dropping to 3a

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

i'll say the 1 percent a possible D15 D2 Wharton, Sweeny, Cuero, Sinton and Ingleside

D16 D2
Raymondville, Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Orange Grove, Robdstown and West Oso. Orange Grove might be on the border of dropping to 3a

We now know Lyford is staying 3A as they turned in 487. Do we know anything about Bishop and Progreso yet?

[SHSBulldog00]

i'll say the 1 percent a possible D15 D2 Wharton, Sweeny, Cuero, Sinton and Ingleside

D16 D2
Raymondville, Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Orange Grove, Robdstown and West Oso. Orange Grove might be on the border of dropping to 3a

You need to start saving gas money for Bi District if that happens

[Matthew328]

99 % sure that Wharton, Sweeny and La Marque will be in the same district-Don't know about Houston ISD schools will be with them

Houston ISD is opting their D2 schools up to D1

[SHSBulldog00]

Houston ISD is opting their D2 schools up to D1

Well that will shake things up in D2

[SHSBulldog00]

So

Bellville
Brookshire Royal
La Marque
Sweeny
Wharton

Could be District 12 D2

[MJMbrahmas10]

That sounds like some driving for bellville. What’s the word on Sealy? Are they possibly dropping to D2?

[Scoop27]

Sealy turned in a 806

[SintonFan_inAustin]

You need to start saving gas money for Bi District if that happens

those were the teams few years ago for D15 D2. Only Aransas Pass missing. R4 going to need teams Wharton and Sweeny to R4

[SintonFan_inAustin]

We now know Lyford is staying 3A as they turned in 487. Do we know anything about Bishop and Progreso yet?

haven't seen info on them couple of days ago when i checked.

[MJMbrahmas10]

Sealy turned in a 806
What were Bellvilles numbers?

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

haven't seen info on them couple of days ago when i checked.

Info was given to me by a very trusted source who won't be named since he's also a member of this forum. But I'd bet my bottom dollar that 487 for Lyford is what they turned in to the UIL as that'll keep them in 3A D1 for sure. They DO NOT want to move up to 4A and always seem to manage to find ways to stay just under the cutoff.

[SHSBulldog00]

What were Bellvilles numbers?

Bellville 700

[Scoop27]

Navasota 830

[SHSBulldog00]

Progreso at 502

Sweeny and Wharton returning to Region 4 is a strong possibility. What do you do with La Marque..........send them east of Houston?

[nfcfan]

i'll say the 1 percent a possible D15 D2 Wharton, Sweeny, Cuero, Sinton and Ingleside

D16 D2
Raymondville, Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Orange Grove, Robdstown and West Oso. Orange Grove might be on the border of dropping to 3a

So we know, Last alignment 4A floor was 505, with Orange Grove at 509 & Progreso at 502 for current #s.
In last alignment, 4A had the least schools (182) among the 3A-5A classes.. 5A(252) / 3A(211). [plus broken down further, 4A Div 2 having the least with 90 schools]

So, I think they'll lower the floor to 500 or so, to KEEP schools like OG and Pro. at 4A Div 2

So Dist 16-4A D2: Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Raymondville, Progreso keeping the same schools
Dist 15-4A D2: Sinton, Ingleside, Robstown, Orange Grove & West Oso (removing Rockport-Fulton?)

Bishop (488 last alignment) IF were to go up would be D154AD2.

[Yoe_09]

So we know, Last alignment 4A floor was 505, with Orange Grove at 509 & Progreso at 502 for current #s.
In last alignment, 4A had the least schools (182) among the 3A-5A classes.. 5A(252) / 3A(211). [plus broken down further, 4A Div 2 having the least with 90 schools]

So, I think they'll lower the floor to 500 or so, to KEEP schools like OG and Pro. at 4A Div 2

So Dist 16-4A D2: Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Raymondville, Progreso keeping the same schools
Dist 15-4A D2: Sinton, Ingleside, Robstown, Orange Grove & West Oso (removing Rockport-Fulton?)

Bishop (488 last alignment) IF were to go up would be D154AD2.

We will see. I know places like Manor New Tech, Jarrell, Van Alstyne and Orangefield (numberd from Matt Stepp at DCTC) are ones that could go up from 3A, even if the number rose somewhat.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

So we know, Last alignment 4A floor was 505, with Orange Grove at 509 & Progreso at 502 for current #s.
In last alignment, 4A had the least schools (182) among the 3A-5A classes.. 5A(252) / 3A(211). [plus broken down further, 4A Div 2 having the least with 90 schools]

So, I think they'll lower the floor to 500 or so, to KEEP schools like OG and Pro. at 4A Div 2

So Dist 16-4A D2: Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Raymondville, Progreso keeping the same schools
Dist 15-4A D2: Sinton, Ingleside, Robstown, Orange Grove & West Oso (removing Rockport-Fulton?)

Bishop (488 last alignment) IF were to go up would be D154AD2.

Instead, I think they're going to raise the 4A D1 / 4A D2 cutoff to around 800 to compensate, and the 4A/5A cutoff to around 1200.

[arges]

If the limit goes down to 500, then add Lago Vista and Gladewater.

[Twirling Time]

I haven't seen Celina's numbers, but I'm 100% certain they'll stay Division I. I'm not sure how they stack up against the other teams in Region II, District 7, but I imagine they're somewhere in the middle.

Number I saw was 849, which is INSANELY low. Not likely, but not impossible either, that number might actually drop them back to D-II.

As I said in a post that earlier got somehow deleted, the "double double" scenario is very, very premature. Gonna take the tollway to do that.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Number I saw was 849, which is INSANELY low. Not likely, but not impossible either, that number might actually drop them back to D-II.

As I said in a post that earlier got somehow deleted, the "double double" scenario is very, very premature. Gonna take the tollway to do that.

I think anything over 800 means 4A D1

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Carl Padilla
@padillapoll
BREAKING NEWS! Pending Houston ISD Numbers, Calallen is the biggest 4A, D-I school & Carthage is the biggest 4A, D-II school. Aledo is also the biggest 5A, D-II school. #txhsfb
@glere53

@ChargerEmpire

@***********

@ProfessorDiggs
10:57 AM · Nov 1, 2019

[SaltySixes]

Carl Padilla
@padillapoll
BREAKING NEWS! Pending Houston ISD Numbers, Calallen is the biggest 4A, D-I school & Carthage is the biggest 4A, D-II school. Aledo is also the biggest 5A, D-II school. #txhsfb
@glere53

@ChargerEmpire


@***********

@ProfessorDiggs
10:57 AM · Nov 1, 2019

Does that mean Carthage will officially be D2?

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Does that mean Carthage will officially be D2?

Not quite.

[SaltySixes]

Not quite.

What needs to happen for that to come true?

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What needs to happen for that to come true?

All of this stuff is speculation. Nothing will be official until the UIL releases it's stuff. (usually early Feb.)

[Matthew328]

All of this stuff is speculation. Nothing will be official until the UIL releases it's stuff. (usually early Feb.)

Carthage being D2 is a real possibility this time....I think a lot depends on how high the 5A/4A cut line is....

[RadioBoots]

All of this stuff is speculation. Nothing will be official until the UIL releases it's stuff. (usually early Feb.)

The UIL will release the cutoff numbers between classes in December. So at least we don't have to wait until February for that.

[Twirling Time]

Carl Padilla
@padillapoll
BREAKING NEWS! Pending Houston ISD Numbers, Calallen is the biggest 4A, D-I school & Carthage is the biggest 4A, D-II school. Aledo is also the biggest 5A, D-II school. #txhsfb
@glere53

@ChargerEmpire

@***********

@ProfessorDiggs
10:57 AM · Nov 1, 2019
Which of these is the bigger "gulp?" Calallen in 4A-I or Carthage in 4A-II?

Calallen will definitely make it a 4-team state semifinal round. Carthage at least has Gilmer and PG as foils.

[Slyone]

Which of these is the bigger "gulp?" Calallen in 4A-I or Carthage in 4A-II?

Calallen will definitely make it a 4-team state semifinal round. Carthage at least has Gilmer and PG as foils.

If a team like Sealy with their tradition is also in region 4 they can compete with Calallen. I know they are having a down year this year but they are usually very competitive. Of course that is if Sealy is in region4 and not region3.

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Which of these is the bigger "gulp?" Calallen in 4A-I or Carthage in 4A-II?

Calallen will definitely make it a 4-team state semifinal round. Carthage at least has Gilmer and PG as foils.

Never heard of El Campo have you.

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If a team like Sealy with their tradition is also in region 4 they can compete with Calallen. I know they are having a down year this year but they are usually very competitive. Of course that is if Sealy is in region4 and not region3.

If El Campo stays in R4 Calallen will have their hands full for at least the next four years.

[scrub c]

If El Campo stays in R4 Calallen will have their hands full for at least the next four years.

EC is gonna be tough for a while...

[SintonFan_inAustin]

If El Campo stays in R4 Calallen will have their hands full for at least the next four years.

PLC dropping also i think they had lower numbers than Calallen and they're both facing off this friday for district championship.

[Slyone]

If El Campo stays in R4 Calallen will have their hands full for at least the next four years.

Yes you are correct. Those freshman and sophomores on varsity are no joke.

[Slyone]

El Campo's junior high teams were really good also.

[SHSBulldog00]

Smithville, Port Isabel and Raymondville only 4A numbers I have missing

[SHSBulldog00]

If the UIL stays with the 2.2/1 ratio in 4A

If Top number is 1195

The Bottom would be around 540?

Is that plausible?

[oldtownag]

Which of these is the bigger "gulp?" Calallen in 4A-I or Carthage in 4A-II?

Calallen will definitely make it a 4-team state semifinal round. Carthage at least has Gilmer and PG as foils.

Carthage might opt up to 5A just to make it fair.

[waterboy]

Carthage might opt up to 5A just to make it fair.

:spitlol:

I think Gilmer will give both Carthage and Pleasant Grove fits next year. This year's team is very young. Lots of juniors and sophomores playing this year. It'll definitely be more competitive for sure.

[arges]

Although it would it would raise the ratio slightly, there are about 200 schools between 500-1195. Would make it easier to make the division split. 3A has a lot of charter schools with more coming online every year. The bottom of 3A may rise to at least 230 or 235.

[d0tc0m]

This all gets clouded a bit by schools opting up. I saw Stepp tweet about it last night, actually, and I'm sure he could provide a little more clarification on this. But schools opting up a class is going to raise some of the cutoff numbers. Possibly.

[Matthew328]

This all gets clouded a bit by schools opting up. I saw Stepp tweet about it last night, actually, and I'm sure he could provide a little more clarification on this. But schools opting up a class is going to raise some of the cutoff numbers. Possibly.

Opting up impacts 4A slightly (it did cause my cut off to go over 1200 from 1185)...it really messes 5A up though....

[d0tc0m]

Opting up impacts 4A slightly (it did cause my cut off to go over 1200 from 1185)...it really messes 5A up though....

I believe that!

So I wonder what the split would for 4A, then? Any teams on that bubble that we thought would go up that may actually stay down?

[Scoop27]

Calhoun- 1,072

[buckeyebob]

Turned in 705...probably staying where we are...2,585 Total

[arges]

If all these predicted opt-ups occur, the split may go up to 850 which would include Celina. Places like Houston ISD, Austin ISD, SAISD, and El Paso County could impact this situation.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

If all these predicted opt-ups occur, the split may go up to 850 which would include Celina. Places like Houston ISD, Austin ISD, SAISD, and El Paso County could impact this situation.

Corpus Christi ISD as well, at least their inner city schools like Miller. Some of the outlying schools in the area (West Oso, Calallen, Tuluso-Midway) are their own ISDs and are thus left alone.

It'll be very interesting to see the various cutoffs, especially the 4A/3A cutoff. I'm thinking it could go as high as 520 because of all these opt ups forcing that number to go higher than it should.

[Twirling Time]

Celina missed the last cutoff by about 2 students, which surprised me then, so I wouldn't be shocked if they drop down this time.

I should point out that Prosper followed a similar pattern when they were just starting to blow up. All their growth was in elementary and it eventually matriculated up. You didn't see it in the high school numbers at first.

[SHSBulldog00]

Split should be above 800 but 850 might be too high. right?

The higher the Bottom of 4A goes the more difficult it will be to form districts. Could see multiple 4 team districts.

God Help Region 4

[SHSBulldog00]

If all these predicted opt-ups occur, the split may go up to 850 which would include Celina. Places like Houston ISD, Austin ISD, SAISD, and El Paso County could impact this situation.

850

There are 4 HISD school's below that and they are opting up. So does that mean D2 would have 4 fewer schools or would they take the next 4 on the list?

If it is the later Gainesville would be top of 4A D2 at 887

I look for the split to be around 835

[arges]

Corpus Christi ISD as well, at least their inner city schools like Miller. Some of the outlying schools in the area (West Oso, Calallen, Tuluso-Midway) are their own ISDs and are thus left alone.

It'll be very interesting to see the various cutoffs, especially the 4A/3A cutoff. I'm thinking it could go as high as 520 because of all these opt ups forcing that number to go higher than it should.

There are 11 4A schools under 520 including the five under 500. This would overload 3A and make 4A very small. Whatever the UIL does, very few will be happy.

[Scoop27]

That means that some 2A schools with some 3 enrollment figures would stay in 2A-Like Wallis Brazos

[scrub c]

One thing you can count on....
The core of the old district 24-4A from back in the day will remain in-tact..
Bay City
Brazosport
Columbia
El Campo

May even bring back Calhoun

[Scoop27]

And add Needville

[Scoop27]

And add Sealy

[arges]

By my calculations Carthage may be the largest school in Division 2 as some others have said.

[greendawg84]

Liberty Hill 1340
Hello 5a

Ouch!

[Gontex]

Ouch!

I know LH has been competing against some 5a schools in non-district now, but it will be interesting to see how they compete with schools that could possibly have 5-600 more students than they do. I know it is a tough row to how when you are fighting short handed.

[NastySlot]

I know LH has been competing against some 5a schools in non-district now, but it will be interesting to see how they compete with schools that could possibly have 5-600 more students than they do. I know it is a tough row to how when you are fighting short handed.

Football might be tough but with their programs tradition and scheme they will compete. I don't really think the other sports will have much problem- most of there programs such G/B basketball, XC, Volleyball, Softball and Baseball are top notch programs with kids who play those sports year round on quality travel/Select organizations.

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I know LH has been competing against some 5a schools in non-district now, but it will be interesting to see how they compete with schools that could possibly have 5-600 more students than they do. I know it is a tough row to how when you are fighting short handed.

A deep run in the playoffs probably won't happen unless they put that slot t to rest.

[orange machine]

I haven't seen Celina's numbers, but I'm 100% certain they'll stay Division I. I'm not sure how they stack up against the other teams in Region II, District 7, but I imagine they're somewhere in the middle.

849.

[d0tc0m]

849.


Yep. Posted on the other thread already that they're headed back to Div. II. Should bode well for the Bobcats, who have some talent coming back and coming up.

[Twirling Time]

That giant gulping sound you just heard came from the likes of Van Alstyne, Caddo Mills and Community.

[Twirling Time]

Yep. Posted on the other thread already that they're headed back to Div. II. Should bode well for the Bobcats, who have some talent coming back and coming up.

They have a possible clear path to the state semifinals due to the lack of 4A D-II competition in the North Texas area, but they trade Argyle and Gilmer for Carthage and PG.

Division II is no pushover by any means.