Aggies vs LSU

[FB-fanatic]

Wild story from the past few weeks. I was invited to a small tailgate party at TAMU by one of our ushers at church. I knew he played golf at TAMU way back in the day. Two weeks ago, at his tailgate, up drives a car and out exits Gerry Griffin, Flight director for Apollo 11, 12, and 14.

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Go to tailgate yesterday, with no game ticket in hand. Great BBQ, and again Gerry Griffin drops by. I visit with him, ask him about Apollo 13 and 14. Very cool stories. He then offers me a free ticket.... 50 freekin' yard line behind Aggie bench!

Got to watch all five hours of the most epic battle I will ever see live, sitting with the Flight Director of Apollo Space Program.

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[Scoop27]

Wrong team won-Tigers got screwed by refs big time at least 3 times

[Scoop27]

And this is on wrong thread site-Belongs on college and pro

[Saggy Aggie]

Scoop, please tell us which particular plays you feel the refs got wrong.

[Celina8]

I was pulling for the Aggies but I actually think the tight end for the aggies caught the ball , turned up field and was hit then fumbled which LSU recovered . I think it was a clear fumble and for whatever reason it was not even challenged especially by the LSU coach . Still great game and great victory for the Aggies.

[bag-o-chips]

Wrong team won-Tigers got screwed by refs big time at least 3 times

So these 3 plays you speak of caused the tigers to lose? What about blown coverages here and there or missed tackles or failing to execute ? I always shake my head when it always the refs fault! Usually spoken by somebody who has never officiated.

[bwdlionfan]

I was pulling for the Aggies but I actually think the tight end for the aggies caught the ball , turned up field and was hit then fumbled which LSU recovered . I think it was a clear fumble and for whatever reason it was not even challenged especially by the LSU coach . Still great game and great victory for the Aggies.

I turned the game on right when the first overtime started. I was watching another game and they mentioned that LSU and A&M were headed to OT. I thought at first that it was a catch and fumble but then on replay I really couldn't tell. It was really close. I don't think the LSU coach can challenge in OT. Aren't all OT challenges up to the booth? He could have called a timeout to give them more time to look at it though.

I also understand that there was a bit of controversy to the one second that was put back on the clock at the end of regulation. I didn't see that play so I can't comment my thoughts on that.

[Scoop27]

And their were the obvious all the holding calls the Aggies didn't get flagged for- especially a big one in one of the overtime
And that was a pass interception at the end of regulation

[bag-o-chips]

And their were the obvious all the holding calls the Aggies didn't get flagged for- especially a big one in one of the overtime
And that was a pass interception at the end of regulation

And LSU never held? Oh the knee was not down? That was reviewed . Next

[Saggy Aggie]

And their were the obvious all the holding calls the Aggies didn't get flagged for- especially a big one in one of the overtime
And that was a pass interception at the end of regulation

Scoop, he clearly had his knee down with the ball. The refs reviewed it and it was clear. Even LSU folks aren’t arguing that one.

As for the time at the end of regulation: there is a still shot that clearly shows the ball on the ground with 1 second on the clock. The rule book clearly states there must be at least 3 seconds to spike the ball, which there was. Again, refs reviewed it and got it right. I think a more valid argument is did the Aggies line up in an illegal formation on this play? I have seen differing opinions on this. I think a&m has enough guts on the line of scrimmage, but I thought there had to be at least 1 player on each side of the formation? I think all WRs are lined up to the right of the line. Maybe somebody can clarify if this is a violation or not?

For me, the most legitimately controversial call was the incomplete pass / fumble. That one to me is about as close as it gets. The deciding factor was the ruling on the field was incomplete. Had it been ruled a fumble, I think that would have stood as well. I lean toward incomplete anyways, but I don’t think there is any evidence to overturn the call.

Regarding pass interference on the 2 pt play, there was a clear interference. You can argue that the ball was uncatchable but the counter argument is that it would have been catchable if not for the interference. The DB then getting flagged for running his mouth is what is. Ultimately the second flag didn’t matter anyways because of a subsequent false start that backed A&M off the goal line.

A lot of folks are complaining about a 4th and 18 where a&m appeared to be a half yard short. This one is easily dismissed because the yellow line on the TV was incorrect and a&m actually cleared the line to gain by a full 2 yards.

The biggest gripe that LSU has that I actually don’t see anyone complaining about is a CLEAR false start on A&M RB in OT on a play that ended up getting the Aggies 12 yards. That is a potentially game changing play. But at the end of the day, the refs missed several calls. There were 2 horrendous spots in the first half that went against the Aggies. Only reason we’re not complaining is because we won. A&m is typically on the receiving end (not in a good way) of these controversial calls. It’s nice to have somebody else complaining for once.

A&M admittedly got lucky that a few calls went in their favor toward the end, but they were the correct calls for the most part. At the end of the day, complaining about refs is 90% sour grapes. Period.

[Saggy Aggie]

Here’s an LSU article that breaks this down and actually dismisses MOST of the claims:

https://www.nola.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/11/2e236184f91863/analyzing-the-controversial-pl.html

[Scoop27]

Even my Aggie people agreed LSU should have won this game and the Aggies got lucky with a couple of these calls that should have went the Tigers way. They couldn't beat them again if the game was at LSU

[Scoop27]

And this thread should be moved to the College and Pro forum page from this one

[Saggy Aggie]

Even my Aggie people agreed LSU should have won this game and the Aggies got lucky with a couple of these calls that should have went the Tigers way. They couldn't beat them again if the game was at LSU

I know a lot of Aggies and none of them have said LSU should have won. Lol

My objective friends and I will definitely say there’s some calls that COULD have gone LSU’s way, but I think the only egregious screwup by the refs that SHOULD have gone LSU’s way was missing a false start on a non scoring play. Everything else is either dismissed or controversial at best

I’d be upset if I’m LSU too, but I think you’re stepping way out on a limb to say LSU won the game 3-4 times and had it taken away

[coach]

And this thread should be moved to the College and Pro forum page from this one

There should only be one forum, but that's a totally different argument.

One of the reasons why this board is dead.

[oldtownag]

Wrong team won-Tigers got screwed by refs big time at least 3 times

Ha, ha. t.u. losses vicariously through LSU.

[Cam]

I was there around the 40 yard line and a few things are for sure.....
The Aggies won.......
Ed Orgeron got a premature Gatorade bath.....the sticky water creeped down his butt crack.....and caused him great discomfort throughout the overtime periods...which is the real reason he was in such a foul mood during his postgame press conference....
Most LSU fans I met I COULD NOT understand..
When two LSU players came onto the field for warm ups during the A&M band halftime performance, the PA announcer sternly told them to get off the field
...and he didn't say "please"!!!......
I struggled to keep up with the yell leaders......I'll make sure to go to yell practice next year....
The cheese on my nachos was cold...
Someone was lighting matches in the men's restroom....reminded me of when I was a kid and dad would blow up the bathroom causing momma to yell at him to "turn on a match"...them big stick ones..
The guy in the Grinch costume was quite the dancer......
The guys in the overalls made me a bit uncomfortable.....
The LSU helmet letters look like they're done with electrical tape....
The biology majors were having a group study in section 335....
The 12th man flag waving creates millions of cotton fibers to be released causing allergic reactions in the elderly
.....and someone kept flatulating in the crowd......

[Macarthur]

Have to agree w/ Saggy.

THe false start is really the only big miss by the refs. All other calls were either legit or bang bang. When I saw the pass/fumble, my first thought was that he never fully controlled the catch. It looked to me like the ball was moving all over the place while he was 'tucking it away'.

It is very true that the Aggies had a couple of crucial calls go their way, but when a team wins a close game, you can always point to one to two calls that make the diff in a game.

[Scoop27]

But if the game wasn't in College Station, there would have been a different winner (The Tigers)

[Macarthur]

But if the game wasn't in College Station, there would have been a different winner (The Tigers)

Maybe, but what's your point? Home field advantage is important.

[Saggy Aggie]

But if the game wasn't in College Station, there would have been a different winner (The Tigers)

Maybe... maybe not...

[ogg]

Congrats to the Aggie refs on their win, A&M now has a "13th man".

[Saggy Aggie]

Congrats to the Aggie refs on their win, A&M now has a "13th man".

Instead of making these ignorant unfounded comments, why don’t you tell us which of the calls you disagree with and provide some facts to justify it? I don’t think you can or will. I’d love to have a real debate instead of mindless remarks

[FB-fanatic]

Congrats to the Aggie refs on their win, A&M now has a "13th man".

"SEC director of officials says A&M-LSU crew made correct calls"

https://247sports.com/college/texas-am/Article/SEC-director-of-officials-addresses-controversial-AM-LSU-calls-125485829/

Get over it.

[Scoop27]

Only one opinion of SEC-

[Saggy Aggie]

Only one opinion of SEC-

LOL, the DIRECTOR OF OFFICIALS.... not just some guy.

The longhorn fans can’t stop crying and are also unwilling to provide anything to back up their claims. Go figure

Where’s BBDE with his crying baby memes when you need him?

[1st and goal]

Only one opinion of SEC-

Remind yourself of a few years ago when ut did not really score against Iowa State, but they gave them the game anyway because they didn't want the ut fans to cry.