DCTF State Title Projections

[Saggy Aggie]

Tepper posted on Twitter that the DCTF computer projections have the following teams playing in the championship through 5 weeks:

D1: Carthage v LaVega
D2: Lorena v WOS

Hmm.....

[Saggy Aggie]

3A:

D1: Goliad v Gladewater
D2: Cisco v Newton

[Saggy Aggie]

5A :

D1: Lufkin v Hutto
D2: Aledo v Manvel

[Rocket Man]

Tepper posted on Twitter that the DCTF computer projections have the following teams playing in the championship through 5 weeks:

D1: Carthage v LaVega
D2: Lorena v WOS

Hmm.....

Don’t let the Barneys or the Argylians see this....

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5A :

D1: Lufkin v Hutto
D2: Aledo v Manvel

Hutto won't get there. Not enough D. to beat Angleton or Shadow Creek who both have enough to slow down a Hippo.

[WOS87]

It's crazy that there are only 5 undefeateds left in 4A D2 after 5 games: Lorena, Jasper, Sweeny, Fort Stockton and Rio Hondo.

WO-S vs Jasper should be very telling this Friday. The 3 teams WO-S has lost to and Jasper are a combined 17-0 so don't let our record fool you.

[LHPfactory]

Don’t let the Barneys or the Argylians see this....

The Barney’s have taken note as have the Argylians. We are arranging an overthrow of these blasphemous predictions and have agreed to meet in Arlington on December 21st...


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[Rocket Man]

The Barney’s have taken note as have the Argylians. We are arranging an overthrow of these blasphemous predictions and have agreed to meet in Arlington on December 21st...


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[regaleagle]

Argylians most probably gets another "L" to make it grammatically correct, but I could be wrong about this. Argyllians or Argylians......either way they are not too terribly concerned at this juncture.....only when it gets down to the meat and potatoes of winning the region :smoker:

[Matthew328]

one note of clarity those are the computer rankings; which although good, are as Tepper says "an unfeeling robot" it's only taking into account the data that it has so some of the rainouts, games that ended early, injuries or additions aren't being accounted for just yet....

We always have two sets of rankings and projections, the computer ratings and our staff ratings/projections

[Dawgs]

I like LV vs Carthage. I think that will be the title game. It’s going to come down to LV and Argyle in R2. I think the winner of that will roll over any team in R1. It’s hard to beat a great team twice. I think LV’s early loss to Argyle will be what helps them win the rematch if it happens. I haven’t even looked at the brackets so I am not sure what round they would meet, but to me those 2 teams are clearly the best.

I do not believe there is a team on Carthage’s side of the bracket that will keep the Dawgs from Jerry World. I know LH fans won’t like this, but you are not beating Carthage running the ball in the Slot or Wing T. Carthage is too big, physical, and well coached. Even if LH has success in the 1st half Darren Preston will make his adjustments and shut it down 2nd half. You have to have a balanced attack and/or superior talent/athletes to beat Carthage.

Honestly this Carthage program is getting scary good. They used to lose games early while everybody got it figured out. That is not even happening anymore. It is now finely tuned on the lower levels. Our 8th and 9th grade rarely losses games over the last 3-4 years. Just seems like the program has taken that next step as crazy as that sounds. And the participation is ridiculous. Carthage truly has 6a numbers. 55-60 kids on the varsity with less than 800 students in the HS is unheard of.

This was supposed to be a slightly down year, but they keep winning. We thought this senior class was one of our weaker classes, but the kids have worked their asses off and are playing at a very high level. For those that see Carthage this year, they will look a lot different than you are used to seeing. The next 2 years Carthage will be back with the elite skill kids. This year we really only have 1, Kelvontay Dixon. The rest of the guys are just hard working smart kids. And they are playing lights out. Great to see.

[jason]

I like LV vs Carthage. I think that will be the title game. It’s going to come down to LV and Argyle in R2. I think the winner of that will roll over any team in R1. It’s hard to beat a great team twice. I think LV’s early loss to Argyle will be what helps them win the rematch if it happens. I haven’t even looked at the brackets so I am not sure what round they would meet, but to me those 2 teams are clearly the best.

If LaVega wins the district then Argyle would have to beat Stephenville for a second time...

[Dawgs]

If LaVega wins the district then Argyle would have to beat Stephenville for a second time...

Ville is hard for me to judge. Coming off an awesome season. Played a very tight game with Argyle 1st game of the year. Looks like they should be right there. But there is that loss to MLH. I just don’t now what to think about that loss. LV dominated MLH, but both Ville and LV played Argyle tight. Obviously LV matched up with Argyle better and lead most of the game, but still Ville played a great game.

I want Ville to be great. Our division is better when one of our blue blood programs is playing at a high level.

R2 is the Region of Doom, haha. That’s going to be fun to watch play out in the playoffs.

[jason]

Ville is hard for me to judge. Coming off an awesome season. Played a very tight game with Argyle 1st game of the year. Looks like they should be right there. But there is that loss to MLH. I just don’t now what to think about that loss. LV dominated MLH, but both Ville and LV played Argyle tight. Obviously LV matched up with Argyle better and lead most of the game, but still Ville played a great game.

I want Ville to be great. Our division is better when one of our blue blood programs is playing at a high level.

R2 is the Region of Doom, haha. That’s going to be fun to watch play out in the playoffs.

They lost their starting qb then had two turnovers inside their own 20 that led to heritage scores. Then it rained the whole second half and still almost won.

[Dawgs]

They lost their starting qb then had two turnovers inside their own 20 that led to heritage scores. Then it rained the whole second half and still almost won.

Even top teams usually have one of those type games. I think that was Ville’s. I’m not ready to count Ville out. Will be very interesting game with Argyle if LV wins the district like you mentioned.

I listened to he guys on S2S, and they said that the backup QB Renfrow is going to be a good one? What do y’all think? I know it will take 3-4 games for him to get all the way up to speed, but does he have a chance to be a great QB?

[LHPfactory]

I like LV vs Carthage. I think that will be the title game. It’s going to come down to LV and Argyle in R2. I think the winner of that will roll over any team in R1. It’s hard to beat a great team twice. I think LV’s early loss to Argyle will be what helps them win the rematch if it happens. I haven’t even looked at the brackets so I am not sure what round they would meet, but to me those 2 teams are clearly the best.

I do not believe there is a team on Carthage’s side of the bracket that will keep the Dawgs from Jerry World. I know LH fans won’t like this, but you are not beating Carthage running the ball in the Slot or Wing T. Carthage is too big, physical, and well coached. Even if LH has success in the 1st half Darren Preston will make his adjustments and shut it down 2nd half. You have to have a balanced attack and/or superior talent/athletes to beat Carthage.

Honestly this Carthage program is getting scary good. They used to lose games early while everybody got it figured out. That is not even happening anymore. It is now finely tuned on the lower levels. Our 8th and 9th grade rarely losses games over the last 3-4 years. Just seems like the program has taken that next step as crazy as that sounds. And the participation is ridiculous. Carthage truly has 6a numbers. 55-60 kids on the varsity with less than 800 students in the HS is unheard of.

This was supposed to be a slightly down year, but they keep winning. We thought this senior class was one of our weaker classes, but the kids have worked their asses off and are playing at a very high level. For those that see Carthage this year, they will look a lot different than you are used to seeing. The next 2 years Carthage will be back with the elite skill kids. This year we really only have 1, Kelvontay Dixon. The rest of the guys are just hard working smart kids. And they are playing lights out. Great to see.


Sounds like a real Goliath of a Program.

[jason]

Even top teams usually have one of those type games. I think that was Ville’s. I’m not ready to count Ville out. Will be very interesting game with Argyle if LV wins the district like you mentioned.

I listened to he guys on S2S, and they said that the backup QB Renfrow is going to be a good one? What do y’all think? I know it will take 3-4 games for him to get all the way up to speed, but does he have a chance to be a great QB?yeah - He's tall and has a good arm - the improvement from being thrown into the heritage game to having a week of practice going into georgetown was clear as day. There's no reason he can't have success. The one thing now is he's nursing a hip injury that prevents him from being very mobile.

[oldtownag]

Sounds like a real Goliath of a Program.

Dawgs starting to sound a little like cowboyandchrist! Can you hear the thunder?

[FB-fanatic]

Tepper posted on Twitter that the DCTF computer projections have the following teams playing in the championship through 5 weeks:

D1: Carthage v LaVega
D2: Lorena v WOS

Hmm.....

Lorena has defeated #9 4A D1 China Spring, #6 3A Franklin, and soundly thumped #6 4A D2 Fairfield. Both CS and Fairfield fielded some really nicely built athletes. Also took care of a much improved Lampasas team and perinial playoff team in Teague. Years past Lorena defenses have been suspect but I watched them really lock down Fairfield between the tackles allbut a couple of sizeable runs. Max Preps computers have Lorena as the number one 4AD2 in the state also. And they are very balanced offensively 1056 passing 1126 rushing.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Lorena has defeated #9 4A D1 China Spring, #6 3A Franklin, and soundly thumped #6 4A D2 Fairfield. Both CS and Fairfield fielded some really nicely built athletes. Also took care of a much improved Lampasas team and perinial playoff team in Teague. Years past Lorena defenses have been suspect but I watched them really lock down Fairfield between the tackles allbut a couple of sizeable runs. Max Preps computers have Lorena as the number one 4AD2 in the state also. And they are very balanced offensively 1056 passing 1126 rushing.

I think Gilmer might have to play Lorena if we were to make it to Area, which is doubtful this year for the first time in a while.

I think that would be an epic beatdown at this point. Maybe you could pay Gilmer back for what they did to your neighbor Waco Connally a few years ago (2014) in that round (80-21).

[Txbroadcaster]

Hutto won't get there. Not enough D. to beat Angleton or Shadow Creek who both have enough to slow down a Hippo.

Man I do not know..They have that Sulphur Springs 2008 feel, they just outscored everyone on the way to State Title. When I saw Hutto against LH that was the first team I thought of.

[d0tc0m]

I do not believe there is a team on Carthage’s side of the bracket that will keep the Dawgs from Jerry World. I know LH fans won’t like this, but you are not beating Carthage running the ball in the Slot or Wing T. Carthage is too big, physical, and well coached. Even if LH has success in the 1st half Darren Preston will make his adjustments and shut it down 2nd half. You have to have a balanced attack and/or superior talent/athletes to beat Carthage.


The Greeks — wonderful linguists — have such a poetic word for this.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Hubris would be my guess.

If Dawgs is Jewish, we could call it chutzpah.

But having seen Carthage play, it might be as Will Sonnett used to say, "No brag, just fact." https://youtu.be/9j1qkorFszY

[Dawgs]

I’m not trying to brag. Hell I don’t play or coach. Just a fan. Name a team that is on Carthage side that you think will beat Carthage late in the playoffs. We are gonna get beat at some point. Can’t win the all. I just don’t see that team in R3 or R4. LH might roll Carthage, but I will just have to see it. If it happens I’ll be here to congratulate them.

[d0tc0m]

I’m not trying to brag. Hell I don’t play or coach. Just a fan. Name a team that is on Carthage side that you think will beat Carthage late in the playoffs. We are gonna get beat at some point. Can’t win the all. I just don’t see that team in R3 or R4. LH might roll Carthage, but I will just have to see it. If it happens I’ll be here to congratulate them.


Not trying to brag ... but bragging lol.

I can laugh at your hubris, because I may have said the exact same thing you did about LH way back in 2006. I didn't think there was anyway on God's green earth that the Panthers' slot-T would even be worthy of a prayer against Celina's very, very stout 10-1 defense. I was wrong.

Carthage might roll LH. They might not. My money says we'll get to find out one way or another come December, though.

[LHPfactory]

Not trying to brag ... but bragging lol.

I can laugh at your hubris, because I may have said the exact same thing you did about LH way back in 2006. I didn't think there was anyway on God's green earth that the Panthers' slot-T would even be worthy of a prayer against Celina's very, very stout 10-1 defense. I was wrong.

Carthage might roll LH. They might not. My money says we'll get to find out one way or another come December, though.


That will be a good one, but anyone could be there at this point, lots of football to go.

[Celina8]

I will just say that what many people might not realize about Liberty Hill is how quick they are on defense and that any of their running backs have the speed to take it to the house if they get thru the line of scrimmage. They remind me a lot of the 2007 team that won a state championship playing against Gilmer. I have no doubt Carthage is every bit as good as what Dawgs states and there is a reason they are number 1 . I think the top five are all capable of bringing home the trophy this year and I also think Stephenville if healthy can be a contender.

[Rocket Man]

That will be a good one, but anyone could be there at this point, lots of football to go.

Should the two meet in the playoffs, I sure hope the game is close to Robinson, I’d love to see that game!!

Of course, no purple or red for me, I’ll be dressed in Royal Blue!

[FB-fanatic]

Lorena takes one on the chin tonight to Connally 31-28. Crap.

[Rocket Man]

Lorena takes one on the chin tonight to Connally 31-28. Crap.

Yeah, crap :wave:

[j_dog]

It's crazy that there are only 5 undefeateds left in 4A D2 after 5 games: Lorena, Jasper, Sweeny, Fort Stockton and Rio Hondo.

WO-S vs Jasper should be very telling this Friday. The 3 teams WO-S has lost to and Jasper are a combined 17-0 so don't let our record fool you.

Now 18-0. WOS is indeed a salty team. Last night Jasper proved to be just a bit better. WOS has nothing to be ashamed of with their play last night. Good luck in District, and in the playoffs!

[Saggy Aggie]

Now 18-0. WOS is indeed a salty team. Last night Jasper proved to be just a bit better. WOS has nothing to be ashamed of with their play last night. Good luck in District, and in the playoffs!

These are teams WOS doesn’t typically lose to.....

[hollywood]

I was lucky enough to catch PG at Carthage Friday. Great atmosphere and game. Both had good size on the OL/DL. Obviously, both were very well coached as expected. From what I was able to take in, Carthage isn’t a clear favorite to win it all again. Argyle, Heritage, La Vega, Liberty Hill and Sville have just as much of a shot as Carthage does. It’s going to be fun how it all shakes out.

[ctown81]

I was lucky enough to catch PG at Carthage Friday. Great atmosphere and game. Both had good size on the OL/DL. Obviously, both were very well coached as expected. From what I was able to take in, Carthage isn’t a clear favorite to win it all again. Argyle, Heritage, La Vega, Liberty Hill and Sville have just as much of a shot as Carthage does. It’s going to be fun how it all shakes out.

With the exception of last year, week 5 Carthage has never looked like a state title team. I still think Carthage is still the favorite but not by much. I would take heritage off my list. Just don't see them pulling it off.

[j_dog]

These are teams WOS doesn’t typically lose to.....

True, but Jasper has had its moments with WOS. In 1996 Jasper hung the worst loss on WOS in the history of the school. 41-0 Just trivia.