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Sweetwater Red
11-13-2017, 10:10 PM
4A Div. I Bracket

(33) Lubbock Estacado vs Clint Mountain View
(3) Wichita Falls Hirschi vs Brownwood
(31) Andrews vs Borger
(8) Abilene Wylie vs Decatur

(28) Stephenville vs Sanger
Fabens vs Pampa (5)
(47) Argyle vs Snyder
(8) Levelland vs Clint

(39) Kennedale vs Carrollton Ranchview
(4) Van vs Princeton
(55) Midlothian Heritage vs Lake Worth
(8) Paris vs Crandall

(18) Texarkana Liberty-Eylau vs Brownsboro
(24) Dallas Carter vs Mineral Wells
(11) Kaufman vs Anna
Springtown vs Alvarado (5)

(36) Carthage vs Huffman Hargrave
(12) Freeport Brazosport vs Houston Worthing
(3) Silsbee vs Center
Houston Yates vs Bay City (3)

(7) Houston North Forest vs Sealy
Navasota vs Henderson (2)
(24) El Campo vs Houston Kashmere
(12) Kilgore vs Little Cypress-Mauriceville

(31) Waco La Vega vs Fredericksburg
Kingsville King vs La Vernia (7)
(10) Fischer Canyon Lake vs Gatesville
(17) Pleasanton vs RGC La Grulla

(19) Somerset vs Zapata
Taylor vs China Spring (4)
(4) La Feria vs Rockport-Fulton
(10) Liberty Hill vs Boerne

4A Div. II Bracket

(5) Bushland vs Midland Greenwood
(18) Godley vs Bridgeport
(44) Seminole vs Dalhart
(9) Iowa Park vs Waxahachie Life

(36) Graham vs Hillsboro
(31) Monahans vs Denver City
(31) Glen Rose vs Vernon
Perryton vs Sweetwater (24)

(31) Melissa vs Dallas Lincoln
(2) Rusk vs Pittsburg
(8) Wills Point vs Caddo Mills
(14) Gilmer vs Diboll

(43) Texarkana Pleasant Grove vs Tatum
Canton vs Aubrey (9)
(10) Jasper vs Atlanta
(32) Celina vs Ferris

(19) Salado vs Columbus
(5) Liberty vs Shepherd
Giddings vs Fairfield (3)
(22) Bellville vs Orangefield

(22) Madisonville vs Hardin-Jefferson
Caldwell vs Lorena (9)
(74) West Orange-Stark vs Brookshire Royal
(7) Mexia vs Gonzales

(46) Wimberley vs Carrizo Springs
(6) Raymondville vs Sinton
(14) Pearsall vs Hondo
(26) Sweeny vs Orange Grove

(44) Cuero vs Corpus Christi West Oso
(3) Crystal City vs Llano
(29) Rio Hondo vs Aransas Pass
(27) Geronimo Navarro vs Devine

orange machine
11-13-2017, 10:48 PM
Aubrey over Canton by 24
Melissa over Dallas Lincoln by 45
Celina over Ferris by 35
Caddo Mills over Wills Point by 14

Melissa and Celina scores could be more.

WOS87
11-14-2017, 01:20 AM
Well we prolly could beat that 74 point spread but Coach Thompson would never do that. In the past four years our first round opponents have a combined 5 wins.

d0tc0m
11-14-2017, 08:18 AM
Well we prolly could beat that 74 point spread but Coach Thompson would never do that. In the past four years our first round opponents have a combined 5 wins.


Yeah, and those poor first-round teams were going up against some of the best WOS squads ever ... which is saying something.

d0tc0m
11-14-2017, 08:18 AM
Aubrey over Canton by 24
Melissa over Dallas Lincoln by 45
Celina over Ferris by 35
Caddo Mills over Wills Point by 14

Melissa and Celina scores could be more.



You're probably right. Celina will have their hands full next week, with either Atlanta or Jasper, though. And Rusk won't be a pushover for Melissa. Although, I full expect the Cardinals to be playing for the Region II title.

waterboy
11-14-2017, 11:13 AM
You're probably right. Celina will have their hands full next week, with either Atlanta or Jasper, though. And Rusk won't be a pushover for Melissa. Although, I full expect the Cardinals to be playing for the Region II title.

So..., you think Melissa will beat the Buckeyes if they take care of their end? I'm thinking a Pleasant Grove / Gilmer rematch in the regional finals.

d0tc0m
11-14-2017, 11:34 AM
So..., you think Melissa will beat the Buckeyes if they take care of their end? I'm thinking a Pleasant Grove / Gilmer rematch in the regional finals.


I do think Melissa will beat Gilmer. I certainly could be wrong, but the Cardinals have the right makeup to take down the Buckeyes.

They are big and fast on defense. Their LBs are some of the quickest I've seen in a while. Only LB corps I've seen this year that is better is the bunch from Carthage. They cover well in the open field, too. Their DEs are very quick off the snap and keep contain very well, and put relentless pressure on the opposing QB. DBs are solid. Not otherworldly, but they are good at limiting the big play. On offense, the Cardinals have plenty of athletes, a good, physical, quick RB, a good receiving corps, and a QB who can deliver the ball on-time, on-target, and makes good decisions. And he can run the ball pretty well, too. Not nearly as good as Copeland was at Argyle, but he was the best QB in 4A this year before he got hurt, in my opinion.

I actually have Melissa winning Div. II, for what it's worth, which is nothing.

regaleagle
11-14-2017, 12:08 PM
Surprise, surprise, surprise.......I also have Melissa winning Division II. I have them against Pleasant Grove, then Graham, and beating Cuero for the title. The way this year has gone with trying to pick weekly winners, the Cardinals will probably not get out of the 3rd Round.....which just so happens to be the Gilmer game, LOL. :wave:

Scoop27
11-14-2017, 01:08 PM
Going with Sealy over North Forest--Bellville is like a home game for the Tigers

Scoop27
11-14-2017, 01:33 PM
Columbus-Salado spread will be closer-Cardinal playing good football right now

d0tc0m
11-14-2017, 01:51 PM
Surprise, surprise, surprise.......I also have Melissa winning Division II. I have them against Pleasant Grove, then Graham, and beating Cuero for the title. The way this year has gone with trying to pick weekly winners, the Cardinals will probably not get out of the 3rd Round.....which just so happens to be the Gilmer game, LOL. :wave:


Ah, not that I would argue your pick, reagle, but I did make a mistake in my post. I actually meant to say I have Melissa winning Region II in Div. II. I have them beating Pleasant Grove, and then losing in the semifinals to Graham, who I then have losing to Cuero in the state championship game. But I deleted my bracket picks two or three times and redid them, then deleted, and did it again before finally throwing my hands up and finishing with a Final Four of Graham, Melissa, WOS, Cuero. As I said in another thread, Div. II just seems to be up for grabs this season. I am about 45% confident in my picks.

I hated not picking Wimberley, because I've been high on them all year, and because another semifinal bout with WOS a la 2005 would have been something special. But Cuero, I think, has just enough defense to knock off the Texans.

orange machine
11-14-2017, 01:54 PM
I don't think Graham will have the speed to keep up with Melissa.

waterboy
11-14-2017, 02:31 PM
Melissa sounds like the team to beat in Region 2 if everything that is being said is spot on. It's really hard to tell how they will match up with the beasts from the East, though. I know historically they haven't matched up well at all. Maybe this year is different. We shall see. I just hope the Buckeyes continue to play. I honestly think the Buckeyes will get their rematch with Pleasant Grove in the Regional Finals. I've been wrong before, so it wouldn't be the first time I'd be wrong. Pleasant Grove has a really special team this year. I will say that. It's going to take a heck of a team to beat them. I will also say that the Buckeyes are starting to put it together defensively this year. I've been encouraged by what I've seen the last couple of weeks. They're not there yet but they're not really far from being good enough to continue playing deep into the playoffs.

orange machine
11-14-2017, 02:36 PM
Melissa sounds like the team to beat in Region 2 if everything that is being said is spot on. It's really hard to tell how they will match up with the beasts from the East, though. I know historically they haven't matched up well at all. Maybe this year is different. We shall see. I just hope the Buckeyes continue to play. I honestly think the Buckeyes will get their rematch with Pleasant Grove in the Regional Finals. I've been wrong before, so it wouldn't be the first time I'd be wrong. Pleasant Grove has a really special team this year. I will say that. It's going to take a heck of a team to beat them. I will also say that the Buckeyes are starting to put it together defensively this year. I've been encouraged by what I've seen the last couple of weeks. They're not there yet but they're not really far from being good enough to continue playing deep into the playoffs.

Good post. Melissa has been rebuilding the last 4 years just like Celina maybe doing the same.

d0tc0m
11-14-2017, 03:03 PM
Good post. Melissa has been rebuilding the last 4 years just like Celina maybe doing the same.


Celina has good kids on the team right now. They're really just a few key pieces from being a legitimate title contender, and those pieces will be coming up next year. Celina's JV team went 11-0 and really took the opposition to the woodshed this year. They played some very stout competition, too. The other underclassmen teams did really well, too.

The sophomore QB who captained that 11-0 mark is pretty good. In my opinion, he should be the QB for the varsity, but I completely understand the coaching rationale in keeping him with the group he's with and letting him develop with them. Ross, Celina's QB all season, has all the tools you would want a QB to have. He is super quick and shifty and has a strong arm and decent size. But he has just not progressed at all this year the way you would like to see. Some of that is within his control and some of it is just a lack of feel for the game, in all honesty. He's a really good kid, from what I hear, and a good teammate. But, my hope is that next year, they utilize his sheer athleticism and abilities in other ways besides QB. He could really put up some big numbers as a hybrid running back/receiver type, and could honestly play on the defensive side, too. I would like for the coaches to develop Watson, the sophomore, and let him have two good years as the varsity starter beginning next year. With him under center, and with Ross being utilized in a different offensive role, you could have quite the explosive tandem, in my opinion.

But, I trust these coaches. They know far more than me, that's for sure, and they know their kids really well. They'll do what's best for the team and the program.

d0tc0m
11-14-2017, 03:04 PM
With all that, I have written off the Bobcats from this postseason, yet, so don't misread anything I've said. I actually like the matchups for Celina in the bottom half of the Region II bracket. I think they matchup better there, in all actuality, than they would have if they had won the district and been put in the top half of the bracket.

hollywood
11-14-2017, 03:30 PM
I don't think Graham will have the speed to keep up with Melissa.

Then you haven’t watched Graham this season.

hollywood
11-14-2017, 03:33 PM
Ah, not that I would argue your pick, reagle, but I did make a mistake in my post. I actually meant to say I have Melissa winning Region II in Div. II. I have them beating Pleasant Grove, and then losing in the semifinals to Graham, who I then have losing to Cuero in the state championship game. But I deleted my bracket picks two or three times and redid them, then deleted, and did it again before finally throwing my hands up and finishing with a Final Four of Graham, Melissa, WOS, Cuero. As I said in another thread, Div. II just seems to be up for grabs this season. I am about 45% confident in my picks.

I hated not picking Wimberley, because I've been high on them all year, and because another semifinal bout with WOS a la 2005 would have been something special. But Cuero, I think, has just enough defense to knock off the Texans.

I believe Graham will be in the State Championship as well. Not sure if they can beat Cuero. They look to be a men amongst boys. But, you never know. Going to be another good year of HS playoff football.

GUNHO
11-14-2017, 06:37 PM
I believe Graham will be in the State Championship as well. Not sure if they can beat WO-S. They look to be a men amongst boys. But, you never know. Going to be another good year of HS playoff football.

There I fixed for ya.lol

toddg
11-14-2017, 07:23 PM
Scratching my head at Alvarado being an 8 point favorite..we’re 3-7, and a 3rd seed.

jason
11-14-2017, 08:14 PM
Scratching my head at Alvarado being an 8 point favorite..we’re 3-7, and a 3rd seed.
Springtown is terrible.

regaleagle
11-15-2017, 12:12 AM
Ah, not that I would argue your pick, reagle, but I did make a mistake in my post. I actually meant to say I have Melissa winning Region II in Div. II. I have them beating Pleasant Grove, and then losing in the semifinals to Graham, who I then have losing to Cuero in the state championship game. But I deleted my bracket picks two or three times and redid them, then deleted, and did it again before finally throwing my hands up and finishing with a Final Four of Graham, Melissa, WOS, Cuero. As I said in another thread, Div. II just seems to be up for grabs this season. I am about 45% confident in my picks.

I hated not picking Wimberley, because I've been high on them all year, and because another semifinal bout with WOS a la 2005 would have been something special. But Cuero, I think, has just enough defense to knock off the Texans.

I was wondering if I should redo mine......but then I saw the Pigskin Preps line and realized my picks in the first round matched their favorite exactly.....every single game......so I left it alone. We'll see how things shake out in each round from there.

bleedgreen
11-15-2017, 01:31 AM
I haven't decided whether to go to the Springtown/Alvarado game at Kennedale or the Midlothian Heritage/Lake Worth game. I know the MH game will be over after their first possession but I want to see their offensive formations and receiver routes. Newsome stadium is close and it's a great place to watch a game. MH is picked to be the sleeper for the state championship. I've already seen Van and Kaufman. Most people still don't mention Kennedale going far in the playoffs and I will list my own reasons: 1) teams will not go far in the playoffs without a balanced offense 2) all Kennedale does is run, run, run 3) no established history 4) no passing 5) not battle hardened due to a weak district 6) Kennedale has not been a team which keeps opposing offenses and defenses off balance (no surprises).
I will continue to support the Wildcats through thick and thin but the players have got to keep their wits about them and play with much, much confidence.

WOS87
11-15-2017, 02:19 AM
WOS outscored the second and third place teams in our district 86-0 in the last two games and I would not be surprised if we pitch another shutout the next week or two or three and rematch Liberty in the Quarters. We’re peaking at the right time and are 100% healthy. Yeah we’ve allowed 69 points scored against so far (8.5 per game) but that’s far from mediocre given we’ve played two D1 District champs and beat them. We’re still here.

I’m rooting for Kennedale and Silsbee and Jasper big time.

buckeyebob
11-15-2017, 09:25 AM
So..., you think Melissa will beat the Buckeyes if they take care of their end? I'm thinking a Pleasant Grove / Gilmer rematch in the regional finals.

Yep...I don't think anyone has come out on top of the Bux in the same year...a hard row to hoe.

bleedgreen
11-15-2017, 09:32 AM
You might as well put up 40 consecutive wins. Their defense is a brick wall with a 50 ft high net. The only thing getting beyond that are punts. So opposing teams, start working on your special team punting.

d0tc0m
11-15-2017, 09:44 AM
You might as well put up 40 consecutive wins. Their defense is a brick wall with a 50 ft high net. The only thing getting beyond that are punts. So opposing teams, start working on your special team punting.


I agree that they'll reach at least 40 wins. Region III is a lock for WOS, and if anyone even stays within three scores, I'll be surprised. But they'll face some more dynamic offenses in the semifinals/finals, for sure. No knock on Kennedale at all, because they're a really good team, and I don't want to diminish how good of a win that was for WOS, but that's just a tailor-made matchup for the chain gang defense, in all honesty. A team like Cuero or Wimberley can and probably will move the ball on the Mustangs at a much higher clip than the Wildcats did. It doesn't necessarily mean it'll be a win, but the Mustangs will be pushed, for sure.

regaleagle
11-15-2017, 10:13 AM
I'm still of the opinion that there has been much better competition played in both divisions up in regions 1 @ 2 this season, and it should show up in the playoffs with some very good games. That means the winner of these regions in each division will be battle tested and a very tough opponent in Jerry World. My winners for each division come out of region 1 and region 2 this season. I think the top teams in regions 3 & 4 have a much easier and clearer path to the championship with less competition on a weekly basis. Hopefully, no more injuries to key players will happen to any of these favorited teams thru the playoffs.......it has already happened to Argyle and a few other quality teams.

hollywood
11-15-2017, 10:51 AM
I'm still of the opinion that there has been much better competition played in both divisions up in regions 1 @ 2 this season, and it should show up in the playoffs with some very good games. That means the winner of these regions in each division will be battle tested and a very tough opponent in Jerry World. My winners for each division come out of region 1 and region 2 this season. I think the top teams in regions 3 & 4 have a much easier and clearer path to the championship with less competition on a weekly basis. Hopefully, no more injuries to key players will happen to any of these favorited teams thru the playoffs.......it has already happened to Argyle and a few other quality teams.

I agree with most of your comments above regal. My SC picks in D1 and D2 are both from Region 1. It’s long over due that Region 1 dominates 4A again. :thumbsup: