Realignment Talk

[SHSBulldog00]

Snapshot day is Friday 10/27

What rumors is everyone hearing? Do you know your school's enrollment?

I was told Sweeny was in the 620 ish range.

Rumors I have heard

La Marque MAY be heading back to 4A. The Top number in 4A could be 1149

[SHSBulldog00]

Here is a list of the 4A school's over 1,000 students last realignment. How many are likely to move up to 5A in February?

Liberty Hill (Expected to be 5A)
Boerne (Expected to be 5A)
Terrell
Cleveland
Tyler Chapel Hill
Houston North Forest
Kilgore
Kaufman
La Vernia
Princeton
River Oaks Castleberry
Orange Little Cypress-Mauriceville
Andrews
Abilene Wylie (some expect them to move up) I will have to see it to believe it.
Rio Grande City Grulla
Livingston
Alvarado (close to 5A numbers)
San Elizario
Stephenville
Freeport Brazosport
Somerset
Kennedale
Lampasas
Hidalgo
Mabank
Kingsville King
Big Spring
Beeville Jones
Huffman Hargrave
La Feria
Taylor
Rockport-Fulton

[SHSBulldog00]

A 3A I have heard with 4A numbers is Holliday.

This seems hard to believe although I do not know anything about them but their previous number was 279 putting them in 3A Division 2 District 5

Some kind of growth happening in that area?

[bag-o-chips]

Heard Rockport numbers are down. What about the Hurricane schools that lost kids? Will the snapshot day be the same? Saw a figure the Total Rockport District was down 700 students.

[SHSBulldog00]

Heard Rockport numbers are down. What about the Hurricane schools that lost kids? Will the snapshot day be the same? Saw a figure the Total Rockport District was down 700 students.

I believe all of the school's affected have reopened. I would expect their numbers all decline.

[wyliefan]

I understand Wylie is at 1161 as of Oct. 1 (water cooler talk) Unless there is a large increase on the top side of 4A, Wylie will be in 5A next year. It will be close, if they do go 5A, don't know where we would go since 5a is going with two divisions for football. I guess East as there is not any "small" 5A close to Abilene, except San Anglo Lake View. If we go west it would be a lot of long drives to the panhandle. Maybe we can stay under one more time!

[Razorback88]

Andrews was at 1109 first of October. Should stay 4A D1. Cutoff will probably be around 1150ish

[Razorback88]

Anxious to see where Big Spring, S'ville, are at.

[wyliefan]

Anxious to see where Big Spring, S'ville, are at.

I would guess Big Spring would be lower, Stephenville about the same maybe slight increase.

[SHSBulldog00]

Abilene HS will stay 6A. Will they go East or West. Possibly what direction they head may be an indication for AW. Don't forget Cooper was with San Angelo and the Lubbock schools.

[Razorback88]

Wylie will be put in district with SALV, Lubbock ISD schools

[Razorback88]

Forgot 5a will be split into 2 divisions-maybe SALV, Plainview, Hereford, Canyon HS and Randall

[waterboy]

Add Kilgore to the over 1000 list. They appear to be sitting at about 1120. It appears that Gladewater will drop to 3A, as they are sitting at about 478. Atlanta might drop, as they are sitting at about 480.

[SHSBulldog00]

Add Kilgore to the over 1000 list. They appear to be sitting at about 1120. It appears that Gladewater will drop to 3A, as they are sitting at about 478. Atlanta might drop, as they are sitting at about 480.

What's the count in Buckeye land?

[waterboy]

What's the count in Buckeye land?

Haven't heard, but I suspect it will be between 650 to 700 as usual. It hasn't changed much at all in the last 40+ years.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Haven't heard, but I suspect it will be between 650 to 700 as usual. It hasn't changed much at all in the last 40+ years.

What would really mess up our district is if three schools drop out of 4A. Atlanta and Gladewater are fairly likely gone to 3A. Spring Hill may be on the cusp also.

So that leaves Gilmer, Pittsburg and Pleasant Grove. I don't imagine Liberty-Eylau is growing, so maybe they'll drop to Division II and join our district. As for the other two or three schools they'd have to add, I have no idea.

[Dawgs]

Carthage should be in the 750's. Potential to drop to DII.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Carthage should be in the 750's. Potential to drop to DII.

Don't tell me that.

[Dawgs]

Don't tell me that.

It just depends on what the bottom of DI is. Carthage hasn't grown for sure. Our numbers could have gone down due to the oilfield. I'm not sure. But regardless we will be in the 750's maybe lower. So we will see where they set the basement of DI. Not sure what Surratt would do. Will be interesting.

[arges]

Here is a list of the 4A school's over 1,000 students last realignment. How many are likely to move up to 5A in February?

Liberty Hill (Expected to be 5A)
Boerne (Expected to be 5A)
Terrell
Cleveland
Tyler Chapel Hill
Houston North Forest
Kilgore
Kaufman
La Vernia
Princeton
River Oaks Castleberry
Orange Little Cypress-Mauriceville
Andrews
Abilene Wylie (some expect them to move up) I will have to see it to believe it.
Rio Grande City Grulla
Livingston
Alvarado (close to 5A numbers)
San Elizario
Stephenville
Freeport Brazosport
Somerset
Kennedale
Lampasas
Hidalgo
Mabank
Kingsville King
Big Spring
Beeville Jones
Huffman Hargrave
La Feria
Taylor
Rockport-Fulton

Terrell and Cleveland, for sure. Possibly Princeton and Kaufman. Not so sure about Boerne though,

[Bosqueville]

China Spring exploding in growth so I’m thinking we will be above 800.

[SHSBulldog00]

Mattt Stepp said he thinks if AW goes East they could be with ALEDO :eek:

He said San Angelo Lake View could be on the 4A/5A bubble.

If SALV were to move down I can see them taking a spot in 14-4A Division 1.

[slingshot]

Mattt Stepp said he thinks if AW goes East they could be with ALEDO :eek:

He said San Angelo Lake View could be on the 4A/5A bubble.

If SALV were to move down I can see them taking a spot in 14-4A Division 1.We are def going 5AD2 from what I'm hearing... suspect it will be East in Aledo's district. It is what it is. We get to be the whipping boy for a few years. Life goes on, suspect we'll still win more than we lose. We play 5A teams every year and hold out own. Aledo? Used to have a good rivalry with them in the 90's and early 2000's. Different story now. They are a machine...

[44INAROW]

Here is a list of the 4A school's over 1,000 students last realignment. How many are likely to move up to 5A in February?

Liberty Hill (Expected to be 5A)
Boerne (Expected to be 5A)
Terrell
Cleveland
Tyler Chapel Hill
Houston North Forest
Kilgore
Kaufman
La Vernia
Princeton
River Oaks Castleberry
Orange Little Cypress-Mauriceville
Andrews
Abilene Wylie (some expect them to move up) I will have to see it to believe it.
Rio Grande City Grulla
Livingston
Alvarado (close to 5A numbers)
San Elizario
Stephenville
Freeport Brazosport
Somerset
Kennedale
Lampasas
Hidalgo
Mabank
Kingsville King
Big Spring
Beeville Jones
Huffman Hargrave
La Feria
Taylor
Rockport-Fulton

I'd think Rockport comes off the list (after Harvey) hope most of those that moved are able to get back but it might be a while.....

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

A current 3A that may be moving up to 4A is Lyford down in the RGV. They have been hovering around the 470-480 mark for a while now, and they've always been tip toeing that line for as long as I can remember. If they get ~20-30 more kids this realignment that'll put them at or very near 500.

[WOS87]

WO-S will stay firmly in 4AD2

[buckeyebob]

Carthage should be in the 750's. Potential to drop to DII.

Lovly

[buckeyebob]

What's the count in Buckeye land?

We wait the cut-off numbers before we post...we turn in Div II max less 2-3...we took over for Highland Park

[d0tc0m]

I'll be interested to see what happens with Celina, and what numbers they turn in. I imagine we'll be very, very close to Div. I, but that just depends on how far up they move the top number of Div. II.

If Celina does stay DII, this will be the last cycle of it, most assuredly.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

This is strictly hearsay, but there's a long-time 5A (old 4A) down in the RGV that has a pretty good chance of dropping down into 4A D1.

Mercedes

[pirate4state]

WO-S will stay firmly in 4AD2

Same with Sinton. We turned in 625

[pirate4state]

I'd think Rockport comes off the list (after Harvey) hope most of those that moved are able to get back but it might be a while.....

Local news mentioned something about 200+ kids still not enrolled at R-F.

[44INAROW]

Last I heard Cuero was at 650 not sure if that's official number or not but sounds about right to me

[Aesculus gilmus]

It just depends on what the bottom of DI is. Carthage hasn't grown for sure. Our numbers could have gone down due to the oilfield. I'm not sure. But regardless we will be in the 750's maybe lower. So we will see where they set the basement of DI. Not sure what Surratt would do. Will be interesting.

794 according to Stepp. http://www.texasfootball.com/Snapshot/

[marler1972]

I'll be interested to see what happens with Celina, and what numbers they turn in. I imagine we'll be very, very close to Div. I, but that just depends on how far up they move the top number of Div. II.

If Celina does stay DII, this will be the last cycle of it, most assuredly.

797 hello D1

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Bishop close to being 4a D2 with 488 turned in and if Rockport Fulton drops to 4a D2 would look like enough coastal bend teams for a distrcit. Sinton, Orange Grove, West Oso, Rockport Fulton, Ingleside and Aransas Pass. Bishop could be pushed to the valley district if a team is needed for D16. Just thinking outloud at lunchtime LOL.

[d0tc0m]

797 hello D1


Well, there ya go.


Celina will be just fine. They've got some good kids coming up through the ranks. They're not gonna rattle off another 68-game winning streak, by any stretch of the imagination. But they won't fall off the competitive map, either. I imagine Melissa will be close to the DI cutoff, too. I wouldn't be surprised to see them come up with the Bobcats.

It'll be interesting to see where they send Celina. Hard to imagine them not being with Argyle again, which would be pretty fun, but I suppose it depends on some of the other McKinney-area schools.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Bishop close to being 4a D2 with 488 turned in and if Rockport Fulton drops to 4a D2 would look like enough coastal bend teams for a distrcit. Sinton, Orange Grove, West Oso, Rockport Fulton, Ingleside and Aransas Pass. Bishop could be pushed to the valley district if a team is needed for D16. Just thinking outloud at lunchtime LOL.

If Lyford moves up to 4A that would make a solid 5-team district. PI, RH, Ray, Lyford, Progreso. Bishop will most likely be placed with D16 to make it an even 6 to match the Coastal Bend district.

[Dawgs]

It just depends on what the bottom of DI is. Carthage hasn't grown for sure. Our numbers could have gone down due to the oilfield. I'm not sure. But regardless we will be in the 750's maybe lower. So we will see where they set the basement of DI. Not sure what Surratt would do. Will be interesting.

I was wrong. Matt Stepp has Carthage turning in 794. About a 40 student increase from 2 years ago. Must have some big classes coming up. I would've thought we would've lost kids with the oilfield being down and all the layoffs. Another note is LE at 694. Looks like they will be dropping to D2. Argyle up to 854. I would assume they are growing. Possibly another 4 - 6 years in 4a? So looks like D1 is losing LE in R2, but gaining Celina in R2. Celina probably an upgrade to the class over LE. Happy to have them move up.

[SHSBulldog00]

Sweeny 595

Whoever told me the 620 range was Wrong :twitch:

[d0tc0m]

I was wrong. Matt Stepp has Carthage turning in 794. About a 40 student increase from 2 years ago. Must have some big classes coming up. I would've thought we would've lost kids with the oilfield being down and all the layoffs. Another note is LE at 694. Looks like they will be dropping to D2. Argyle up to 854. I would assume they are growing. Possibly another 4 - 6 years in 4a? So looks like D1 is losing LE in R2, but gaining Celina in R2. Celina probably an upgrade to the class over LE. Happy to have them move up.


I may be alone in this sentiment, but I'm actually excited to see Celina move up to DI. I think it'll be fun. Hopefully we'll have some more, top-to-bottom, competitive districts. I could see Celina joining the Argyle, Sanger, Gainesville, Decatur district. But I could also see them sending Celina east a bit, with Anna and the Paris schools. Princeton bumping up to 5A will leave a slight void over that way.

[Dawgs]

I may be alone in this sentiment, but I'm actually excited to see Celina move up to DI. I think it'll be fun. Hopefully we'll have some more, top-to-bottom, competitive districts. I could see Celina joining the Argyle, Sanger, Gainesville, Decatur district. But I could also see them sending Celina east a bit, with Anna and the Paris schools. Princeton bumping up to 5A will leave a slight void over that way.
Celina can compete no problem in DI. While the top of the class is better that DII, I think the middle of the pack teams are about the same. Celina will be 2-3-4 round a year playoff team same as they have been. Special years they will be able to play with anybody. For sure top 15 program in DI, maybe top 10.

[Bosqueville]

Brownwood turned in 951.

[Bosqueville]

China Spring 810

[marler1972]

I may be alone in this sentiment, but I'm actually excited to see Celina move up to DI. I think it'll be fun. Hopefully we'll have some more, top-to-bottom, competitive districts. I could see Celina joining the Argyle, Sanger, Gainesville, Decatur district. But I could also see them sending Celina east a bit, with Anna and the Paris schools. Princeton bumping up to 5A will leave a slight void over that way.

Melissa turned in 822 from what i was told

[orange machine]

Melissa turned in 822 from what i was told

Princeton is going 5a they turned in close to 1200. Celina, Melissa, Anna, Argyle, Sanger and Gainsville.

[orange machine]

I can see Melissa Or Anna going east splitting them.

[d0tc0m]

Princeton is going 5a they turned in close to 1200. Celina, Melissa, Anna, Argyle, Sanger and Gainsville.


That would actually be a pretty competitive district. Gainesville is slowly climbing back up after a long time of being down. Argyle is Argyle. Sanger will be competitive most year. Melissa has a lot of good young players, and the numbers are there. Celina is Celina.

Would make for some fun matchups, for sure.

[WOS87]

WO-S turned in 583

[Rocket Man]

China Spring 810

That has a little bit of a “wow” factor to me.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Was told Port Isabel 690.

Also, looks like Rockport-Fulton will still be 4A D1. They turned in 781

[wyliefan]

Abilene News reporting the following numbers for the High schools in Abilene:

Abilene High. 2394
Cooper 2004
Wylie. 1164

[Rocket Man]

Unofficial, but from a good source; Robinson is 702

[Razorback88]

Andrews-1111
Seminole-793
Ft Stockton-672
Monahans-623
Snyder-726

[SHSBulldog00]

Most on the city school's have yet to report. They may trickle in over the weekend. Katy ISD will announce theirs on Monday. :thinking:

[SHSBulldog00]

Some numbers I thought were interesting

Canyon 1126

Lumberton 1125

Dumas 1103

Stephenville 1080

San Angelo Lake View 1062

Fulshear 1027

Rockport Fulton 781

Sunnyvale 528

Cameron Yoe 488

Columbus 476 (Good for them to move down)

[Scoop27]

What is the 3A-4A cutoff numbers?

[SHSBulldog00]

What is the 3A-4A cutoff numbers?

We won't know until after Thanksgiving.

[Old Green]

Cuero turned in 684


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[cougartino]

LaMarque reported 667. Back to 4A D2. The closing of LMISD to TCISD helped.

[SHSBulldog00]

LaMarque reported 667. Back to 4A D2. The closing of LMISD to TCISD helped.

Nice of TC to send some students over to LM. lol

We will likely see ya'll next year.

[cougartino]

Since the takeover, businesses and housing developments are emerging, and parents are sending kids back or allowing them to stay. I would not be surprised to see us in 5A in 4 years. But what's interesting is, the enrollment is increasing but the football program has plateaued. You can read between the lines to see where I'm going with that. I am happy for the kids the schools are better. But I'm not going to be a homer here. Moving back up to 4A, with the direction this team is headed, just makes us fodder for the WOS and Carthages of the world.

[buckeyebob]

Add Kilgore to the over 1000 list. They appear to be sitting at about 1120. It appears that Gladewater will drop to 3A, as they are sitting at about 478. Atlanta might drop, as they are sitting at about 480.

We could wind up with a very strong 3AD21 District in East Texas with this

[buckeyebob]

Haven't heard, but I suspect it will be between 650 to 700 as usual. It hasn't changed much at all in the last 40+ years.

We should know Wednesday @ the Booster Club

[canno]

Not sure what happens to brownwood district, wylie will be moving up and Snyder will probably go d2

[Razorback88]

Andrews, Seminole, BS, Levelland, and Estacado-all will be D1 and would be a good district......could happen with Dumas and Canyon dropping down from 5A

[SHSBulldog00]

Valley Rumor is that Mercedes will be dropping to 4A D1. I know we don't have many Valley posters on here but if you have connections see what you can find about Mercedes.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Valley Rumor is that Mercedes will be dropping to 4A D1. I know we don't have many Valley posters on here but if you have connections see what you can find about Mercedes.

The rumor happened because during the last realignment, Mercedes didn't include the kids they have at a nearby magnet school which gave some the impression (including myself) Mercedes's numbers were slowly going down. Some of those students from the magnet school also participate in extra-curriculars at Mercedes High, a fact that I wasn't aware of until just yesterday.

So even though Mercedes's main campus has high end 4A or low end 5A numbers, the students at the nearby magnet put them firmly into 5A by a couple hundred kids.

It's a shame, really. Mercedes would do extremely well in 4A D1. As it stands now, they're one of the top teams in their 5A district.

Now, the one school that MIGHT be actually moving is Lyford. They have always been right on the 4A/3A bubble and there was a very long-standing rumor that their previous coach had ways of magically making some kids "disappear" on Snapshot Day in order to keep them 3A D1. Now that he's no longer there (he's at Port Isabel now....smh) Lyford might actually post an honest number and return to 4A D2.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Just saw a post on Twitter by someone from the Caller Times in CC that Aransas Pass turned in 440.

Definitely dropping back down to 3A

[SHSBulldog00]

Just saw a post on Twitter by someone from the Caller Times in CC that Aransas Pass turned in 440.

Definitely dropping back down to 3A

That would make the current 15-4A D2 a 5 team district. La Marque is moving up to 4A D2 but I look for the district to break up cause the UIL wants to keep LM in Region 3. But it would be a Hellacious District imagine :eek:

Cuero
Ingleside
La Marque
Sinton
Sweeny
Wharton

probably won't happen but wow.

[SHSBulldog00]

The rumor happened because during the last realignment, Mercedes didn't include the kids they have at a nearby magnet school which gave some the impression (including myself) Mercedes's numbers were slowly going down. Some of those students from the magnet school also participate in extra-curriculars at Mercedes High, a fact that I wasn't aware of until just yesterday.

So even though Mercedes's main campus has high end 4A or low end 5A numbers, the students at the nearby magnet put them firmly into 5A by a couple hundred kids.

It's a shame, really. Mercedes would do extremely well in 4A D1. As it stands now, they're one of the top teams in their 5A district.

Now, the one school that MIGHT be actually moving is Lyford. They have always been right on the 4A/3A bubble and there was a very long-standing rumor that their previous coach had ways of magically making some kids "disappear" on Snapshot Day in order to keep them 3A D1. Now that he's no longer there (he's at Port Isabel now....smh) Lyford might actually post an honest number and return to 4A D2.

I agree the Tigers would do well in 4A D1

[SintonFan_inAustin]

That would make the current 15-4A D2 a 5 team district. La Marque is moving up to 4A D2 but I look for the district to break up cause the UIL wants to keep LM in Region 3. But it would be a Hellacious District imagine :eek:

Cuero
Ingleside
La Marque
Sinton
Sweeny
Wharton

probably won't happen but wow.That would be bad for the sub varsity teams to have a district, they already dont play all the district teams. For Varsity it would be fun knowing each game could be a must win game. Wharton is down this year but they'll be up there again next season.

Also i like to see La Marque games on youtube they have a great broadcast play by play team like listening to them.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

That would make the current 15-4A D2 a 5 team district. La Marque is moving up to 4A D2 but I look for the district to break up cause the UIL wants to keep LM in Region 3. But it would be a Hellacious District imagine :eek:

Cuero
Ingleside
La Marque
Sinton
Sweeny
Wharton

probably won't happen but wow.

Won't happen. There is a strong possibility Bishop moves up to 4A (they turned in 488). They would most likely be placed in the RGV district. You could take Orange Grove or CC West Oso to D15. I doubt La Marque goes D15

The best case scenario would be both Bishop and Lyford moving up to 4A. That would make a solid 6 team D16 with PI, RH, Ray, Progreso, Lyford, and Bishop.

Both West Oso and Orange Grove could join Sinton & Ingleside to make a good Coastal Bend district. Add Cuero and Sweeny to make 6. Wharton to R3.

Now what would be helpful is if another Coastal Bend area team has a surprise move up/down into 4A D2. It's too bad Rockport still posted D1 numbers. How is Mathis looking?

[SHSBulldog00]

Won't happen. There is a strong possibility Bishop moves up to 4A (they turned in 488). They would most likely be placed in the RGV district. You could take Orange Grove or CC West Oso to D15. I doubt La Marque goes D15

I agree I think D15 gets split up

La Marque, Sweeny, Wharton will head north not sure whom they will pair with.

Cuero, Ingleside and Sinton will remain in Region 4 with probably OSO and OG.

[Scoop27]

Is Bellville Division I or Division II?
They could put Columbus in Wharton's District since they are not that far apart

[SHSBulldog00]

Is Bellville Division I or Division II?
They could put Columbus in Wharton's District since they are not that far apart

Columbus turned in 476 so they will likely go 3A D1

I could see Bellville (D2) and Brookshire Royal joining La Marque, Sweeny and Wharton again.

That would leave Tarkington, Madisonville and Shepherd looking for a home.

[Scoop27]

Thanks for the infor SHS Bulldog
What did East Bernard turn in?
Could they be going to 3A Division I?

[SHSBulldog00]

Thanks for the infor SHS Bulldog
What did East Bernard turn in?
Could they be going to 3A Division I?

Don't have a number on EB yet?

[Scoop27]

I'll email coach Wade Bosse on Monday and get it from him
i"ve known him since 1986 when he was a QB at Needville and I cover him writing sports at Rosenberg Herald Coaster.

[SHSBulldog00]

It will be important to see if the bottom number stays at 480 or goes up to 490 or 500.

[SHSBulldog00]

Thanks for the infor SHS Bulldog
What did East Bernard turn in?
Could they be going to 3A Division I?


East Bernard 324 will be right on the line for 3A D1/D2 split. According to current projections they would go 3A D1.

[SHSBulldog00]

All numbers I post are from Matt Stepp of DCTF.

Below are the newest updates to the 4A landscape.

Likely 5A D2
Kaufman 1206

Likely 4A D1
Hereford 1138.5
Beaumont Ozen 1121
North Dallas 1066
Waxahachie Life 932

Likely 4A D2
Bishop 488

[waterboy]

According to Matt Stepp, Gilmer turned in 688. Hello, 4A-D2!


oh..., wait.... :D

[SHSBulldog00]

4A D1 school's enrollment #'s not yet reported

Clint
Fabens
Big Spring

Gainesville
FW Castleberry
FW Diamond Hill Jarvis
Lake Worth
Dallas Carter
Wilmer Hutchins
Paris
Brownsboro
Mabank
Terrell
Van

Chapel Hill
Cleveland
LCM
Navasota
District 11 4A (HISD School's)
El Campo
Brazosport
Sealy

Gatesville
Lampasas
Liberty Hill
La Vega
Boerne
Canyon Lake
Beeville Jones
La Vernia
Pleasanton
Robstown
Somerset
La Feria
La Grulla
Zapata

[toddg]

We are def going 5AD2 from what I'm hearing... suspect it will be East in Aledo's district. It is what it is. We get to be the whipping boy for a few years. Life goes on, suspect we'll still win more than we lose. We play 5A teams every year and hold out own. Aledo? Used to have a good rivalry with them in the 90's and early 2000's. Different story now. They are a machine...so, I guess a possible nondistrict game with us will not happen? since we'll be a lowly 4A team..LOL!! 😎

[SHSBulldog00]

4A D2 school's enrollment #'s not yet reported

Brownfield
Perryton
Lamesa
Midland Greenwood
Sweetwater
Bridgeport
Benbrook
Godley

Canton
Dallas Lincoln
Dallas Roosevelt
Emory Rains
Gladewater
Spring Hill
Huntington
Rusk
Tatum

Lorena
Caldwell
La Grange
Brookshire Royal
Tarkington
Shepherd
Hamshire Fannett


Navarro
Carrizo Springs
Crystal City
Devine
Pearsall
Poteet
Wharton
Orange Grove
Progreso
Raymondville
Rio Hondo

[toddg]

Sources tell me, Alvarado around 1109

[SHSBulldog00]

Sources tell me, Alvarado around 1109

:thumbsup:

[SHSBulldog00]

3A D1 Any possible move ups?

Farmersville
Mineola
Groesbeck
Marion
Palacios
Yoakum
Lyford

[Matthew328]

All numbers I post are from Matt Stepp and TOC.

Below are the newest updates to the 4A landscape.

Likely 5A D2
Kaufman 1206

Likely 4A D1
Hereford 1138.5
Beaumont Ozen 1121
North Dallas 1066
Waxahachie Life 932

Likely 4A D2
Bishop 488

Matt Stepp of DCTF

[SHSBulldog00]

Matt Stepp of DCTF

Corrected

[stardog]

DailyTrib.com - Marble Falls

Marble Falls - 1192
Burnet - 899
Llano - 539

[stardog]

All numbers I post are from Matt Stepp of DCTF.

Below are the newest updates to the 4A landscape.

Likely 5A D2
Kaufman 1206

Likely 4A D1
Hereford 1138.5
Beaumont Ozen 1121
North Dallas 1066
Waxahachie Life 932

Likely 4A D2
Bishop 488

Hasn't Beaumont Ozen been 4A-1 last two realignments but keep opting up to 5A ?

[Matthew328]

Hasn't Beaumont Ozen been 4A-1 last two realignments but keep opting up to 5A ?

They have not

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Well, I tried to get Lyford's # via phone call, but I was very politely told to "piss off" in a manner of speaking. Something about "you must be here in person, you must provide a valid ID as well as valid media credentials" and also "we will not answer your question over the phone"


I swear, Lyford keeps their # like it's in Fort Knox or something.

[SHSBulldog00]

Well, I tried to get Lyford's # via phone call, but I was very politely told to "piss off" in a manner of speaking. Something about "you must be here in person, you must provide a valid ID as well as valid media credentials" and also "we will not answer your question over the phone"


I swear, Lyford keeps their # like it's in Fort Knox or something.

Top Secret

[Matthew328]

Well, I tried to get Lyford's # via phone call, but I was very politely told to "piss off" in a manner of speaking. Something about "you must be here in person, you must provide a valid ID as well as valid media credentials" and also "we will not answer your question over the phone"


I swear, Lyford keeps their # like it's in Fort Knox or something.

It's certainly their option to do so....there's always a few districts like that........you just gotta know who to talk to if someone acts like that...

Lyford turned in 476

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

It's certainly their option to do so....there's always a few districts like that........you just gotta know who to talk to if someone acts like that...

Lyford turned in 476

Wow, that is SO CLOSE to that magic 480 number. Here's to hoping the bottom end of the 4A D2 range is 470 or so putting Lyford in 4A D2. That would put together a pretty solid 6-team 16 4A II district with Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Progreso, Raymondville, Lyford, and Bishop. CC West Oso and Orange Grove to D15 with Sinton & Ingleside.

I would be interested in seeing how some of the other Coastal Bend numbers come out. The one I'm really curious about is CC London. Pretty new school/district, and I've heard that area is growing like crazy. They can easily be 4A very soon if not this realignment. It's unfortunate Rockport won't be dropping to D2. Same goes for Aransas Pass. Had Rockport dropped to D2, and Aransas Pass stayed 4A D2, that would have made a nice Coastal Bend 15-4A DII with Sinton, Ingleside, Rockport, Aransas Pass, Orange Grove and CC West Oso. That would have meant Cuero, Sweeny, and Wharton all possibly go Region 3 because I doubt the UIL would move the district with Navarro, Wimberley, et. al. out of Region 4. Besides, both Wharton and Sweeny have played in Region 3 before. I'm unsure about Cuero though.

Sadly, looks like D15 is stuck with Cuero and Sweeny. At the very least, Wharton looks to be going back to Region 3 which should alleviate their travel costs somewhat. Wharton to La Marque is a heck of a lot closer than Wharton to Ingleside, or Aransas Pass

[Crow22]

Wow, that is SO CLOSE to that magic 480 number. Here's to hoping the bottom end of the 4A D2 range is 470 or so putting Lyford in 4A D2. That would put together a pretty solid 6-team 16 4A II district with Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Progreso, Raymondville, Lyford, and Bishop. CC West Oso and Orange Grove to D15 with Sinton & Ingleside.

I would be interested in seeing how some of the other Coastal Bend numbers come out. The one I'm really curious about is CC London. Pretty new school/district, and I've heard that area is growing like crazy. They can easily be 4A very soon if not this realignment. It's unfortunate Rockport won't be dropping to D2. Same goes for Aransas Pass. Had Rockport dropped to D2, and Aransas Pass stayed 4A D2, that would have made a nice Coastal Bend 15-4A DII with Sinton, Ingleside, Rockport, Aransas Pass, Orange Grove and CC West Oso. That would have meant Cuero, Sweeny, and Wharton all possibly go Region 3 because I doubt the UIL would move the district with Navarro, Wimberley, et. al. out of Region 4. Besides, both Wharton and Sweeny have played in Region 3 before. I'm unsure about Cuero though.

Sadly, looks like D15 is stuck with Cuero and Sweeny. At the very least, Wharton looks to be going back to Region 3 which should alleviate their travel costs somewhat. Wharton to La Marque is a heck of a lot closer than Wharton to Ingleside, or Aransas Pass

Why would Wharton and Sweeny not stay together? They're 35 miles apart.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Why would Wharton and Sweeny not stay together? They're 35 miles apart.

Because otherwise D15 would be a 5 team district and I doubt very much the UIL will want that.

That is unless an unexpected move up from 3A or drop down from 4A D1 happens in or near the Coastal Bend area......but I can’t think of anyone that might fit that criteria.

[Crow22]

Because otherwise D15 would be a 5 team district and I doubt very much the UIL will want that.

That is unless an unexpected move up from 3A or drop down from 4A D1 happens in or near the Coastal Bend area......but I can’t think of anyone that might fit that criteria.

Why would District 15 be a 5 team district if Sweeny and Wharton stay together? Not sure I'm following your logic here. Currently its a 6 team district. How would splitting them NOT create a 5 team district?

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Why would District 15 be a 5 team district if Sweeny and Wharton stay together? Not sure I'm following your logic here. Currently its a 6 team district. How would splitting them NOT create a 5 team district?

Sinton, Ingleside, Orange Grove, CC West Oso, Cuero. There's your 5 team district.

Sweeny and Wharton would need to go to Region 3 if they are to be kept together. Unfortunately, Aransas Pass is dropping to 3A, and Rockport didn't post a number low enough to drop down into D2. Had those two been in 4A D2, it would have made D15 into a nice little Coastal Bend area 6-team district, but alas.....

Also, Bishop posted 488 and should be moving up. Lyford posted 476 and they're 50/50 on move up from 3A, it's really going to depend on the cutoff # determined by the UIL. If both of them end up in 4A D2, Lyford definitely goes D16 because RGV. Bishop will also most likely go to D16. That's why I put Orange Grove and West Oso into D15.

[Crow22]

Sinton, Ingleside, Orange Grove, CC West Oso, Cuero. There's your 5 team district.

Sweeny and Wharton would need to go to Region 3 if they are to be kept together. Unfortunately, Aransas Pass is dropping to 3A, and Rockport didn't post a number low enough to drop down into D2. Had those two been in 4A D2, it would have made D15 into a nice little Coastal Bend area 6-team district, but alas.....

Also, Bishop posted 488 and should be moving up. Lyford posted 476 and they're 50/50 on move up from 3A, it's really going to depend on the cutoff # determined by the UIL. If both of them end up in 4A D2, Lyford definitely goes D16 because RGV. Bishop will also most likely go to D16. That's why I put Orange Grove and West Oso into D15.

Ahh...thanks for explaining your logic. I was not considering how you were calculating a new district.

I would bet that Sweeny doesn't go back to Corpus though. Its never happened before and it makes zero sense to keep sending them that way.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Ahh...thanks for explaining your logic. I was not considering how you were calculating a new district.

I would bet that Sweeny doesn't go back to Corpus though. Its never happened before and it makes zero sense to keep sending them that way.

Little to no chance of that happening. I see both Sweeny and Wharton returning to Region 3 and being replaced by Orange Grove and CC West Oso coming up from D16.

Regardless, unless Aransas Pass opts up and/or Rockport was given the option to opt down due to extreme circumstances (damaged high school, Hurricane Harvey, etc.) to 4A D2, I see D15 potentially being a 5-team district unless there's a surprise school possibly falling into the 4A D2 category from somewhere in the vicinity of Corpus Christi or Victoria. Palacios perhaps? Goliad? Odem? Edna?

[arges]

Need Yoakum's number. Should be higher than the other schools listed.

[SHSBulldog00]

According to Matt the 5A/6A cutline is getting close only missing a few #'s.

The 5A/6A cutline could be 2180 - 2190 range

Once that line is set we might have a better idea for where the other numbers fall.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Need Yoakum's number. Should be higher than the other schools listed.

Man, I completely forgot about Yoakum. If they bump back up to 4A, there's your 6th D15 team.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

According to Matt the 5A/6A cutline is getting close only missing a few #'s.

The 5A/6A cutline could be 2180 - 2190 range

Once that line is set we might have a better idea for where the other numbers fall.

Do you know about how many 5A and 4A schools the UIL wants? 200? 180? I do recall someone saying the UIL wants at least 200 6A schools.

[SHSBulldog00]

Some of you guys that think you may be moving up to 4A D2 might want to stay on alert. The numbers could likely be going up.

[SHSBulldog00]

Do you know about how many 5A and 4A schools the UIL wants? 200? 180? I do recall someone saying the UIL wants at least 200 6A schools.

Looks like the UIL will have 250 schools in 6A. Not sure about 5A yet.

[SHSBulldog00]

Matt's projections for 6A HAVE INCREASED 5 students. It could go up even more.

Will have to reevaluate the lower classes but they could increase as well.

If you are at 480-500 you need to keep hitting the refresh button often for breaking updates.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Some of you guys that think you may be moving up to 4A D2 might want to stay on alert. The numbers could likely be going up.

If that's the case, that's going to suck for a lot of teams travel wise.

[SHSBulldog00]

If that's the case, that's going to suck for a lot of teams travel wise.

Yes it would

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Yes it would

I just came up with a crazy idea, but one I think may just work for a lot of people. I'll send you a PM shortly.

[Rabid Cougar]

Cameron will be moving up to 4A Div II. They are 16 over the cut line. Will move in with Robinson, Mexia, Lorena, Salado and Connally.

[arges]

Wonder what number Gladewater turned in. Could be a few between 475-480. Could the bottom possibly go a little lower?

[SHSBulldog00]

Need Yoakum's number. Should be higher than the other schools listed.

I'm waiting to hear back from Yoakum.

[Scoop27]

Still waiting to here from East Bernard to see they might be moving to Class 3A Division I

[SHSBulldog00]

Still waiting to here from East Bernard to see they might be moving to Class 3A Division I

East Bernard 324

[SHSBulldog00]

According to Carl Padilla

6A 252 schools

5A 257 schools

Does not have anything for 4A or lower yet. Top of 4A could be 1134 not sure the split or the bottom.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

According to Carl Padilla

6A 252 schools

5A 257 schools

Does not have anything for 4A or lower yet. Top of 4A could be 1134 not sure the split or the bottom.

Interesting. If the Godfather says it, then it must be true.

So there's a possibility we could see some current 4A D1 schools drop into 4A D2?

[SHSBulldog00]

Interesting. If the Godfather says it, then it must be true.

So there's a possibility we could see some current 4A D1 schools drop into 4A D2?

It depends on where the 4A split comes. Should hear something later this week as info is compiled.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

So, our good buddypal Matt Stepp has made his final cutoff predictions for 4A D1 and D2 cutoffs. Time for our mock Realignments! I'll do a Region IV D2 mock and see how it comes out. I'll post it in a bit once I look up everything.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

So, our good buddypal Matt Stepp has made his final cutoff predictions for 4A D1 and D2 cutoffs. Time for our mock Realignments! I'll do a Region IV D2 mock and see how it comes out. I'll post it in a bit once I look up everything.i just saw them also and comment on 956 if those could be the numbers Robstown and Rockport drop to D2

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

i just saw them also and comment on 956 if those could be the numbers Robstown and Rockport drop to D2

Yeah, I'm putting a 4A D2 Region IV mock together. Having a little trouble with D13 and 14 because of some unexpected drop downs into 3A but I do have a very solid D15 and D16 put together.

There's a couple teams I'm considering putting in Region 4, but it would make for some pretty cruddy commutes.

[SHSBulldog00]

Yeah, I'm putting a 4A D2 Region IV mock together. Having a little trouble with D13 and 14 because of some unexpected drop downs into 3A but I do have a very solid D15 and D16 put together.

There's a couple teams I'm considering putting in Region 4, but it would make for some pretty cruddy commutes.

Don't forget Gonzales.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

District 13 - Navarro, Bandera, Wimberley, Austin Eastside, Llano, Gonzalez

District 14 - Devine, Hondo, Crystal City, Pearsall, Poteet

District 15 - Sinton, Ingleside, CC West Oso, Orange Grove, Rockport-Fulton, Cuero

District 16 - Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Progreso, Raymondville, Robstown, Bishop

This is what I've got so far. As you can see, I've got 2 solid 6-team districts in D15 and D16

One thing I noticed, has Carrizo Springs not turned in a # yet? I can't find them anywhere on the list, but if their number falls within D2 they'll go D14 to make that a 6 team district.

As for D13, I've only got 5 "for sure" teams, with Gonzalez being a "maybe" because as far as I can tell, Gonzalez is the closest town to the area the other teams are located. I also took into consideration Gonzalez's proximity to I-10.

Of course, I'm always open to thoughts, suggestions, etc. but this is what I've got for the moment.

[SHSBulldog00]

I don't think Carrizo Springs has turned in a number yet. They have until this Friday.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

I don't think Carrizo Springs has turned in a number yet. They have until this Friday.

Then in the meantime, they're in limbo and D14 is a 5-team district. Because reasons!

[arges]

Gonzales should go Division 1 according to Stepp's numbers. I had them in a similar situation in my early figures. Probably go back to 15-4A div 1 with Pleasanton, LaVernia, Somerset, Beeville Jones, and maybe Boerne. District 13-4A, div1 Liberty Hill, Burnet, Taylor, Lampasas, Fredericksburg, and Canyon Lake.

[SHSBulldog00]

Gonzales should go Division 1 according to Stepp's numbers. I had them in a similar situation in my early figures. Probably go back to 15-4A div 1 with Pleasanton, LaVernia, Somerset, Beeville Jones, and maybe Boerne. District 13-4A, div1 Liberty Hill, Burnet, Taylor, Lampasas, Fredericksburg, and Canyon Lake.

You are correct. I saw two different split numbers for D2 784 and the other was 789.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

You are correct. I saw two different split numbers for D2 784 and the other was 789.

The 789 number is the most recently updated one, so that's the one I went with.

[SHSBulldog00]

District 14 - Devine, Hondo, Crystal City, Pearsall, Poteet

One thing I noticed, has Carrizo Springs not turned in a # yet? I can't find them anywhere on the list, but if their number falls within D2 they'll go D14 to make that a 6 team district.

Carrizo Springs 608

[SHSBulldog00]

I'm still missing

Gainesville
Cleveland
Houston North Forest
Houston Scarborough
Houston Washington
Houston Wheatley
Houston Worthing
Grulla
Navarro

[FB-fanatic]

Ignore, I forgot to quote Rabid Cougar.

[FB-fanatic]

Cameron will be moving up to 4A Div II. They are 16 over the cut line. Will move in with Robinson, Mexia, Lorena, Salado and Connally.

I like that one, even though Cameron has become quite the powerhouse. I still like seeing a couple of the old rivalries like Robinson and Connally in the fray.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Carrizo Springs 608

Ok, Carrizo Springs to D14 DII

[stardog]

Gonzales should go Division 1 according to Stepp's numbers. I had them in a similar situation in my early figures. Probably go back to 15-4A div 1 with Pleasanton, LaVernia, Somerset, Beeville Jones, and maybe Boerne. District 13-4A, div1 Liberty Hill, Burnet, Taylor, Lampasas, Fredericksburg, and Canyon Lake.

Who will make up 4A-I D-14, if you've moved all to other districts ?

[RadioBoots]

Based upon Stepp's prediction at Texas Football on Class 4A Division I to be 790-1,159 enrollment, here are my predicted districts for Region 1.

Dist 1
Clint
Clint Mountain View
Fabens (opt up)
San Elizario
El Paso Riverside

Dist 2
Dumas
Pampa
Canyon
Hereford

Dist 3
Seminole
Andrews
Big Spring
San Angelo LV

Dist 4
Stephenville
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Decatur

[Scoop27]

what about Region IV

[RadioBoots]

Sorry, don't live there so I don't know the teams or geography that well.

[Eagle Nation]

Argyle goes back to reg 2?


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[Rocket Man]

Cameron will be moving up to 4A Div II. They are 16 over the cut line. Will move in with Robinson, Mexia, Lorena, Salado and Connally.

What do you think will happen to Fairfield?

I’d rather drive to Cameron anyway I really like that Tex-Mex place on the right as you’re rolling into town.

Have they expanded the seating capacity?

[Rocket Man]

Ignore, I forgot to quote Rabid Cougar.

Watch out, I hear he hates it when you do that.

[BEAST]

Based upon Stepp's prediction at Texas Football on Class 4A Division I to be 790-1,159 enrollment, here are my predicted districts for Region 1.

Dist 1
Clint
Clint Mountain View
Fabens (opt up)
San Elizario
El Paso Riverside

Dist 2
Dumas
Pampa
Canyon
Hereford

Dist 3
Seminole
Andrews
Big Spring
San Angelo LV

Dist 4
Stephenville
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Decatur


Any thoughts on Brownwood going south to the Burnet district? We did this in the past. Just curious. Also, where is Snyder?



BEAST

[RadioBoots]

Argyle goes back to reg 2?


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I always thought it was weird that a school east of I35 was in Region 1.

[RadioBoots]

Snyder will be going to Div 2 according to Stepp's prognostication.

[FB-fanatic]

Watch out, I hear he hates it when you do that.

His last text message was "..and don't quote me on that!..."

[stardog]

Matt Stepp of DCTF

With the Dallas/Fort Worth areas getting so many 4A schools, what the possiblity of going to 10 - 12 schools to a district with conferences like 5A - Region 4 - Dist. 30

[toddg]

Based upon Stepp's prediction at Texas Football on Class 4A Division I to be 790-1,159 enrollment, here are my predicted districts for Region 1.

Dist 1
Clint
Clint Mountain View
Fabens (opt up)
San Elizario
El Paso Riverside

Dist 2
Dumas
Pampa
Canyon
Hereford

Dist 3
Seminole
Andrews
Big Spring
San Angelo LV

Dist 4
Stephenville
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Decatur
if your district 4 happened, Decatur will dominate that district..their freshmen and sophs. are outstanding, not to mention another year of Hicks, his fav. WR will be back healthy next year too.

[stardog]

Any thoughts on Brownwood going south to the Burnet district? We did this in the past. Just curious. Also, where is Snyder?



BEAST
With D-13 maybe loosing Liberty Hill to 5A, leaves 5 teams, and D-14 loosing A. Eastside to 4A-II leaving 4 teams, could move Burnet to D-14, Brownwood to D-13.

[Yoe_09]

I'm still missing

Gainesville
Cleveland
Houston North Forest
Houston Scarborough
Houston Washington
Houston Wheatley
Houston Worthing
Grulla
Navarro

Cleveland - 1446

[Yoe_09]

What do you think will happen to Fairfield?

I’d rather drive to Cameron anyway I really like that Tex-Mex place on the right as you’re rolling into town.

Have they expanded the seating capacity?

Los Comales is a favorite of many. There is not really any expanded seating but they did renovate a few years ago. Cameron is at 488, so I would say there is about a 50/50 chance of moving up.

[arges]

On my post about districts 14 and 15, it should have been 14 instead on 13. Alzenheimers (on my part) I guess.

[SHSBulldog00]

If I knew exactly what HISD had planned I could put together mock realignments for both divisions.

There are about 10 HISD school's with enrollments in or near 4A numbers. 6 for D1 and 4 for D2. Will the UIL split them this year or keep them together in Division 1?

I will go with what I think the UIL will do.

[LH Panther Mom]

With D-13 maybe loosing Liberty Hill to 5A, leaves 5 teams, and D-14 loosing A. Eastside to 4A-II leaving 4 teams, could move Burnet to D-14, Brownwood to D-13.

If Matt was close on the cutoff, we'll stay 4A. :p That gives us about 25 kids short, which is better than 9 1/2 last alignment.

[panther89]

With Waxahachie Life moving up to 4A- D1, where do you think they will end up? Kaufman and Terrell are most likely up to 5A, and Brownsboro probably dropping, does that put Life in with Mabank, Van, Crandall and Athens? Just wondering. I know it is a ways to Athens and Van, but that district is going to need some more teams.

[jason]

With Waxahachie Life moving up to 4A- D1, where do you think they will end up? Kaufman and Terrell are most likely up to 5A, and Brownsboro probably dropping, does that put Life in with Mabank, Van, Crandall and Athens? Just wondering. I know it is a ways to Athens and Van, but that district is going to need some more teams.
crandall may go 5a - they turned in 1114

[panther89]

crandall may go 5a - they turned in 1114

Yea I saw them, but was using Matt's numbers. If they do, that leaves just three teams in 8-4A. Hmmm.

[Scoop27]

Speculation

[SHSBulldog00]

I finished my first mock 4A realignment today only to find out El Paso Eastlake, Goose Creek Memorial and Longview adjusted their numbers causing the projected 6A cut line to drop.

Now I have to go back and make adjustment's if needed with the new info.

[debragga]

With Waxahachie Life moving up to 4A- D1, where do you think they will end up? Kaufman and Terrell are most likely up to 5A, and Brownsboro probably dropping, does that put Life in with Mabank, Van, Crandall and Athens? Just wondering. I know it is a ways to Athens and Van, but that district is going to need some more teams.

With North Dallas and Dallas Hillcrest dropping to 4AD1 that might kick Alvarado, Midlothian Heritage and/or Carrollton Ranchview out of the district with DISD, and could put them in this district. Those would be some looooooong drives if it happened. But with Princeton moving up and Liberty-Eylau moving down Van and one of the other current district 8 teams (Athens?) could slide into district 7, or move some of the teams out of district 9 (Henderson?/Chapel Hill?/Carthage?) and into 7, then move some from 8 into 9. I hope all of that makes sense lol

[debragga]

Also Melissa is moving up to 4AD1 so they could go with district 7

[arges]

I finished my first mock 4A realignment today only to find out El Paso Eastlake, Goose Creek Memorial and Longview adjusted their numbers causing the projected 6A cut line to drop.

Now I have to go back and make adjustment's if needed with the new info.

Do you know what number Goose Creek Memorial turned in?

[arges]

No numbers in yet for charter schools. There are Tyler Cumberland, Oak Cliff Faith, Beaumont Harmony, San Antonio Brooks Academy or any of the IDEA schools from the Valley. Probably won't know these numbers till the UIL releases this info later this month.

[LHAG]

4A D1 school's enrollment #'s not yet reported

Clint
Fabens
Big Spring

Gainesville
FW Castleberry
FW Diamond Hill Jarvis
Lake Worth
Dallas Carter
Wilmer Hutchins
Paris
Brownsboro
Mabank
Terrell
Van

Chapel Hill
Cleveland
LCM
Navasota
District 11 4A (HISD School's)
El Campo
Brazosport
Sealy

Gatesville
Lampasas
Liberty Hill
La Vega
Boerne
Canyon Lake
Beeville Jones
La Vernia
Pleasanton
Robstown
Somerset
La Feria
La Grulla
Zapata

Apparently Liberty Hill reported 1122 so if the number is 1149 we will stay 4A for two more years. Lower grades are exploding as tens of thousands of rooftops are expected in the next few years and the youth programs are very robust and competetive. I expect we will move to 5A in two years but in the meantime we will enjoy strength in 4A.

[Gontex]

Anybody know what Gonzales turned in? Last biennium, they were at 722. Would be surprised to hear there has been much growth in the system.

[arges]

I think 789 according to Matt Stepp on Texas Football.com. Should be Div 1, but who knows what the UIL will do.

[SHSBulldog00]

Do you know what number Goose Creek Memorial turned in?

I do not have that new number.

[solocam]

Apparently Liberty Hill reported 1122 so if the number is 1149 we will stay 4A for two more years. Lower grades are exploding as tens of thousands of rooftops are expected in the next few years and the youth programs are very robust and competetive. I expect we will move to 5A in two years but in the meantime we will enjoy strength in 4A.

This would be great

[Gontex]

That is up substantially from last realignment. Apaches may very well get back into DI. They have played tough this year and have lost a couple of relatively close games in district. Four teams from district 10 are tied for second place. Columbus will meet Caldwell and Gonzales and Smithville will match up in Gonzales. Winner of Columbus/Caldwell is in as well as winner of Gonzales/Smithville. Gonzales would be the fourth place team if Caldwell wins over Columbus by virtue of their win over Columbus earlier this year. If not, Apaches have to beat Smithville to get in.

[panther89]

With North Dallas and Dallas Hillcrest dropping to 4AD1 that might kick Alvarado, Midlothian Heritage and/or Carrollton Ranchview out of the district with DISD, and could put them in this district. Those would be some looooooong drives if it happened. But with Princeton moving up and Liberty-Eylau moving down Van and one of the other current district 8 teams (Athens?) could slide into district 7, or move some of the teams out of district 9 (Henderson?/Chapel Hill?/Carthage?) and into 7, then move some from 8 into 9. I hope all of that makes sense lol

So what you are saying is, we have no clue what the UIL will do? LOL. Mabank, Crandall (if they don't move up), Quinlan Ford (who should go up) and a few other teams could form a decent district I guess. You could throw Athens and Van in there as well I guess.

[db8coach]

Based upon Stepp's prediction at Texas Football on Class 4A Division I to be 790-1,159 enrollment, here are my predicted districts for Region 1.

Dist 1
Clint
Clint Mountain View
Fabens (opt up)
San Elizario
El Paso Riverside

Dist 2
Dumas
Pampa
Canyon
Hereford

Dist 3
Seminole
Andrews
Big Spring
San Angelo LV

Dist 4
Stephenville
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Decatur

I think it will look more like this:
785 to 1159

Dumas
Hereford
Pampa
Seminole
Canyon

Mountain View
San Elizario
El Paso Riverside
Fabens (request up)
Clint (request up)

Big Spring
Brownwood
Lake View
Stephenville
Andrews

Decatur
Argyle
Gainesville
Wichita falls hershi
Burkburnett
Sanger

[BEAST]

I think it will look more like this:
785 to 1159

Dumas
Hereford
Pampa
Seminole
Canyon

Mountain View
San Elizario
El Paso Riverside
Fabens (request up)
Clint (request up)

Big Spring
Brownwood
Lake View
Stephenville
Andrews

Decatur
Argyle
Gainesville
Wichita falls hershi
Burkburnett
Sanger

Andrews in a district with Brownwood and Stephenville would be rough for traveling. For Brownwood that’s 4 hours minimum one way. For Stephenville add an hour. Sure hope they do not do that.


BEAST

[db8coach]

Andrews in a district with Brownwood and Stephenville would be rough for traveling. For Brownwood that’s 4 hours minimum one way. For Stephenville add an hour. Sure hope they do not do that.


BEAST

I don't think UIL has ever really cared about west Texas. IIRC, San Angelo played in a district with Amarillo schools for a while...4 hours one way. And Andrews has been in a district with Clint Mountain View which is a 4 hour drive one way WITH a time change to Mountain Time.

[db8coach]

What I don't get in Region 1 Division 1: Why is Argyle and Gainsville in there...while Springtown and Mineral Wells are closer to places like Stephenville and Brownwood.

[Razorback88]

Andrews is a long way from Brownwood and Stephenville but has been playing El Paso teams in district last few years. 280 miles one-way. People in Andrews would be thrilled to go anywhere away from El Paso. LOL Panhandle, east of Abilene, doesn't matter. Andrews is one of the few 4A towns west of Abilene that has actually had an increase in enrollment the last several years. Kinda puts them on an island. Natural rivals like Sweetwater, Monahans, Pecos, FS, Snyder all D2

[db8coach]

Andrews is a long way from Brownwood and Stephenville but has been playing El Paso teams in district last few years. 280 miles one-way. People in Andrews would be thrilled to go anywhere away from El Paso. LOL Panhandle, east of Abilene, doesn't matter. Andrews is one of the few 4A towns west of Abilene that has actually had an increase in enrollment the last several years. Kinda puts them on an island. Natural rivals like Sweetwater, Monahans, Pecos, FS, Snyder all D2

Their actual rival is Big Spring (even though they have been bad for a cpl years now.) All time record between the two schools? 21-21-1. But, yes, they have a "big time hatred" for Monahans.

[Gontex]

That is up substantially from last realignment. Apaches may very well get back into DI. They have played tough this year and have lost a couple of relatively close games in district. Four teams from district 10 are tied for second place. Columbus will meet Caldwell and Gonzales and Smithville will match up in Gonzales. Winner of Columbus/Caldwell is in as well as winner of Gonzales/Smithville. Gonzales would be the fourth place team if Caldwell wins over Columbus by virtue of their win over Columbus earlier this year. If not, Apaches have to beat Smithville to get in.

My post is totally screwed up. Columbus is playing Giddings, LaGrange is playing Caldwell and Gonzales is playing Smithville. Four way tie for second is still in place.

[stardog]

Anybody know anything about realignment cutoff numbers. Last heard UIL might release these after Thanksgiving. In 2015 they released the numbers 11/20.

[sk1]

Anybody know anything about realignment cutoff numbers. Last heard UIL might release these after Thanksgiving. In 2015 they released the numbers 11/20.

Numbers will be released late next week

[stardog]

Numbers will be released late next week
Thank you !!!