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Scoop27
10-02-2017, 09:19 PM
http://www.khou.com/news/local/coach-defends-call-to-boot-players-from-team-after-national-anthem-protest/479871167?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Cont ent&utm_content=59d0cab804d30173bc872e10&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

bobcat1
10-02-2017, 10:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYfu5E-hOE&feature=related

WOS87
10-02-2017, 11:21 PM
We’re watching. Be careful with this thread or it’s moving off the main forum. Have a nice day!

Weebe
10-02-2017, 11:33 PM
I can't tell you how tired I am of this nonsense.

coach
10-03-2017, 08:41 AM
We’re watching. Be careful with this thread or it’s moving off the main forum. Have a nice day!

We haven't had a ROM in years!!! DO IT! Just DO IT!

lostaussie
10-03-2017, 08:43 AM
We’re watching. Be careful with this thread or it’s moving off the main forum. Have a nice day!lol:D

Crow22
10-03-2017, 09:13 AM
http://www.khou.com/news/local/coach-defends-call-to-boot-players-from-team-after-national-anthem-protest/479871167?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Cont ent&utm_content=59d0cab804d30173bc872e10&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Extremely misleading headline. I, for one, immediately thought it was referring to Crosby High School.

cowboyandchrist
10-03-2017, 02:05 PM
Great job coach. You kneel at the cross and you stand for the anthem. I am sick and tired of politics in sports. It does nothing to help, it only causes more bad feelings.
God Bless coaches, players, and fans.

10ForTheWin
10-03-2017, 03:54 PM
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10ForTheWin
10-03-2017, 03:54 PM
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Matthew328
10-03-2017, 08:34 PM
Very misleading headline...private schools can do these kinds of things......they play by a different set of rules in all aspects

Aesculus gilmus
10-04-2017, 06:38 AM
Another big difference is that all high schoolers who haven't turned 18 yet are minors. There's a big difference between a minor still under adult supervision and an adult with full legal rights kneeling.

It's hard to say at what age we should regard the youth to have achieved adulthood these days. The recent trend has been to refer to college players and even NFL ones in their first few years as "kids."

Weebe
10-04-2017, 07:09 AM
Another big difference is that all high schoolers who haven't turned 18 yet are minors. There's a big difference between a minor still under adult supervision and an adult with full legal rights kneeling.


Age has nothing to do with freedom of speech rights.

Aesculus gilmus
10-04-2017, 06:50 PM
The students do have such rights, unless they are ruled to be disruptive. I am sure this school has attorney(s) who put it to all these tests:

In the school context, the United States Supreme Court has identified three major relevant considerations:[6]

The extent to which the student speech in question poses a substantial threat of disruption (Tinker v. Des Moines Indep. Cmty. Sch. Dist.).
Whether the speech is offensive to prevailing community standards (Bethel School District v. Fraser).
Whether the speech, if allowed as part of a school activity or function, would be contrary to the basic educational mission of the school (Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier).
Each of these considerations has given rise to a separate mode of analysis, and in Morse v. Frederick the Court implied that any one of these may serve as an independent basis for restricting student speech.[6]

Disruption[edit]
The problem of disruption is perhaps the most fundamental issue addressed by the courts in student free speech cases.[6]

Offensiveness[edit]
The second major question addressed by the courts is closely related to, but nevertheless distinct from, the question of disruption. This is the question of speech which is offensive to prevailing community standards by reason of being vulgar, lewd, indecent, racist, or otherwise inappropriate in a school setting.[6] In Bethel School District v. Fraser, the Supreme Court recognized the special responsibility of the public schools to inculcate moral values and to teach students the boundaries of socially acceptable behavior. It therefore permitted a public school to discipline a student for making sexually suggestive remarks in an address to a school assembly, even though the remarks were not obscene in the traditional sense.

The ability to regulate inappropriate speech has been found to be especially important in situations where the student speech may have the appearance of being sponsored or endorsed by the school.[8]

Impairing educational mission[edit]
The third major area of concern addressed in student free speech cases is whether a particular instance of student speech may be viewed as impairing the school's ability to carry out its educational mission.[6] This concern arises where the speech in question occurs in connection with a school-sponsored or school-controlled activity but is inconsistent with a legitimate pedagogical concern. In such circumstances, the United States Supreme Court has found that student speech may be regulated. For example, in Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, it held that a school may exercise control over the content of a student newspaper when it attempts to address issues of divorce and teenage pregnancy; in Morse v. Frederick, it permitted a school to exercise control over the words displayed on a large banner at a school-sponsored event, when those words convey a message promoting the use of illegal drugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_speech_(First_Amendment)#Disruption

And since this is a private school, they have even less of a right than in public ones:
https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-the-First-Amendment-apply-to-students-in-private-schools-read-details

lostaussie
10-04-2017, 08:28 PM
Age has nothing to do with freedom of speech rights.

He learned this from the University of Texas......hell he's got to be right:D