8:45 AM Friday, the UIL will release...

[waterboy]

The conference/division breaks for the upcoming realignment.

What say ye?

[Sweetwater Red]

SHS says he'll post them as soon as they are released.

http://bbs.texasdownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?128956-Division-Breaks-for-2016

[waterboy]

Oops..., never saw that thread...

Anybody wanna guess where the 4A breaks are?

4A-D1: 700-1085
4A-D2: 485-699

[LHPfactory]

4A was the smallest number of schools last time, with only 186, the only one under 200.

There is supposed to be a minimum of 200 in any classification from 2A-6A.

Lots of schools have grown a bunch and 4A was 14 short of the 200 last alignment. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't put the 4A Top Cut Off somewhere in the low 1100s.

Im also curious what the bottom will be, 485 to 500 if I had to guess.

It will be interesting for sure, then its time to speculate on districts.

[techex95]

4A was the smallest number of schools last time, with only 186, the only one under 200.

There is supposed to be a minimum of 200 in any classification from 2A-6A.

Lots of schools have grown a bunch and 4A was 14 short of the 200 last alignment. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't put the 4A Top Cut Off somewhere in the low 1100s.

Im also curious what the bottom will be, 485 to 500 if I had to guess.

It will be interesting for sure, then its time to speculate on districts.


I bet you hope its in the low 1100's, so you guys don't have to start playing Georgetown and Cedar Park.

[AP2364]

The drum roll please......................................... Anyone know if this will include the alignments or just the numbers they will use for the breakdowns?

[LHPfactory]

The drum roll please......................................... Anyone know if this will include the alignments or just the numbers they will use for the breakdowns?

Just the cut offs, we will know who is where, just wont know the districts until around February.

[LHPfactory]

I bet you hope its in the low 1100's, so you guys don't have to start playing Georgetown and Cedar Park.

No worries about bumping up, we can play with them like we did Brenham.
We should make 4A this time around, then when our Freshmen are Seniors we will make the bump to 5A. LH will be very ready then, The current Freshmen and 8th Graders will handle business in 5A.

[solocam]

If im not mistaken Liberty Hill turned in 1092,it will be close,Cedar Park is a lot better than Brenham

[AP2364]

I heard through the grapevine that LH turned in 1092.

[LHPfactory]

I heard through the grapevine that LH turned in 1092.

Thats whats on the old coach site and should be accurate.

Lots of schools grew though, I heard Marble Falls went from 1100 to almost 1300.

I think we will make 4A this go. In a couple years we will be ready for 5A with around 1300.

Yep, its obvious Cedar Park is better than Brenham, But I have all the confidence in the world our boys will be ready to be a competitor in 5A come fall of 2018.

[Old Green]

Oops..., never saw that thread...

Anybody wanna guess where the 4A breaks are?

4A-D1: 700-1085
4A-D2: 485-699I think it will be like this

4A-D1: 711-1100
4A-D2: 474-710

[buckeyebob]

Graham 711
Waxahachie Life 709
Pittsburg 699
Celina 696
Gilmer 695
mmmmmmmmmmm...

[regaleagle]

Okay......it's 8:50 am on Friday. And the final numbers are.........

[buckeyebob]

Okay......it's 8:50 am on Friday. And the final numbers are.........

What is the problem...hit the ENTER button

[mwrams]

UIL Reclassification and Realignment
Co
nference C
utoff Numbers
2016
-
2017 & 2017
-
2018
Conference Cutoffs
6A
215
0 and above
5A
1100
–
2149
4A
480
–
1099
3A
221
–
479
2A
105
–
220
1A
104.9 and below
1A
–
4A Football
Division I and Division II Numbers
1A
Division I
59
–
104.9
1A Division II
58
and below
2A Division I
158
–
220
2A Division II
105
–
157
3A Division I
319
–
479
3A Division II
221
–
318
4A Division I
723
–
109
9
4A Division II
480
–
722

[d0tc0m]

4A cutoff numbers:

Div. I - 723-1099
Div. II - 480-722

[SintonFan_inAustin]

What is the problem...hit the ENTER button

numbers are in SHS will post then in a few secs, coffee break :)

Yoakum will be 3a, D15 will look different

[SintonFan_inAustin]

can somebody post numbers reported for each school

[SHSBulldog00]

6A 2150+

5A 1100 - 2149

4A 480 - 1099

3A 221 - 479

2A 105 - 220

1A 104.9 & Below

[mwrams]

looks like Graham will go D-II

[Sweetwater Red]

....

[Old Green]

Here it is folks

6a- 2150 and above
5a- 1100-2149
4a- 480-1099
3a- 221-479
2a- 105-220
1a- 104.9 and below

4a- d1 723-1099
4a- d2 480-722

[pirate4state]

lol so Wylie is still in 4A

[Yoe_09]

can somebody post numbers reported for each school

I don't think anyone has the complete list. I'm assuming the UIL won't release the rank order until they release the districts.

[movethechain]

lol so Wylie is still in 4A

Shocking, right ???

[pirate4state]

can somebody post numbers reported for each school

here is a start http://bbs.texasdownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?128751-Snapshot-numbers-post-here

[SHSBulldog00]

Splits

4A D1
723 - 1099

4A D2
480 - 722

3A D1
319 - 479

3A D2
221 - 318

2A D1
158 - 220

2A D2
105 - 157

1A D1
59 - 104.9

1A D2
58 & BELOW

[pirate4state]

Shocking, right ???

nah, expected and long running joke ;)

[wyliefan]

This the the 4a numbers from the old coach, may not have all 4a numbers.



Liberty Hill
1092
Boerne
1087
Terrell
1085
Kilgore
1066
LaVernia
1063
Princeton
1060
Little Cypess-Mauriceville
1058
Andrews
1056
Abilene Wylie
1055
Rio Grande City Grulla
1053
Livingston
1050
Alvarado
1046
San Elizario
1040
Stephenville
1040
Somerset
1036
Kennedale
1027
Mabank
1017
Houston North Forest
1016
Big Spring
1011
Huffman-Hargrave
1009
Beeville Jones
1009
Hidalgo
1005
Rockport-Fulton
1002
Crandall
988
Fredericksburg
986
Pleasanton
985
Pampa
948
Springtown
936
Burkburnett
923
Needville
922
Brownwood
916
Paris
912
Decatur
910
Burnet
909
West Columbia
869
Wilmer-Hutchins
863
Sealy
860
Wichita Falls Hirschi
851
Gatesville
834
Levelland
814
Navasota
783
Borger
782
Lake Worth
767.5
Bridge City
763.5
Midlothian Heritage
754
Carthage
754
Texarkana Liberty-Eylau
753
Center
752
Snyder
743
Seminole
716.5
Graham
711
Pittsburg
699
Gilmer
695
Ferris
684
Bandera
673
Pearsall
670
Melissa
660
Texarkana Pleasant Grove
658
Hardin-Jefferson
640
Sinton
639
Ingleside
631
LaGrange
628
Midland Greenwood
625
Hondo
602
Giddings
589
West Orange-Stark
581
Devine
577
Orange Grove
564
Venus
557
Shepherd
546
Hamshire-Fannett
543
Tatum
527
Nevada Community
525
Vernon
524
Denver City
517
Hillsboro
516
Dalhart
514
Bonham
509
Iowa Park
505
Aransas Pass
504
Orangefield
494
Brownfield
490.5
Longview Spring Hill
488
Godley
487
Lytle
483
Benbrook
480.13

[SintonFan_inAustin]

I've seen a post Gonzales had 722 right at the cutoff, they were D1 D15, will that put them in D2 D15? Jourdanton and Yoakum both dropping to 3a and Aransas Pass moving up to 4a.

D2 D15 Sinton, Cuero, Gonzales, Ingleside and Aransas Pass a possibility although that is one heck of a drive to Gonzales lol I drive that sometimes from Corpus.

[Sweetwater Red]

Well, Seminole moving down and Denver City up to 4ADII is sure to effect us.
We might be in 7 or 8 team district next year.

[stardog]

UIL website has the cutoff #'s posted
Matt on The Old Coach has a lot of individual school enrollment #'s

[Breacher9]

I've seen a post Gonzales had 722 right at the cutoff, they were D1 D15, will that put them in D2 D15? Jourdanton and Yoakum both dropping to 3a and Aransas Pass moving up to 4a.

D2 D15 Sinton, Cuero, Gonzales, Ingleside and Aransas Pass a possibility although that is one heck of a drive to Gonzales lol I drive that sometimes from Corpus.

That very well could be a possibility. They put Rockport and Gonzales in the same district for the last two years. I could also see Orange Grove going into that D2 D15 district. They have no business in that other district.

[bd62]

numbers are in SHS will post then in a few secs, coffee break :)

Yoakum will be 3a, D15 will look different

D-15 has had some great games the last 2 yrs. Sinton and Yoakum playing 2 OT games and then meeting in QF in 2014. Yoakum and Cuero also playing 3 great games and the first time in there 100 plus yrs Rivalry meeting in 3 Rd in 2014. Will miss that dist. But Yoakum will have there hands full in 3A due to some very strong teams in R4. I know we have Cuero in non dist and pretty sure Gonzales. Our Coach has such a good relationship withCoach Allen I would not be surprised to see Sinton on our schedule. When Coach Robinson was at LaVernia he had one of the toughest non dist schedules in 4A and he do same thing at Yoakum. Those 3 would be a good start.

[slingshot]

lol so Wylie is still in 4AAnd comfortably under the limit. Eight schools larger than us... More interesting is that Abilene High and Cooper will both be 5A if the numbers I'm seeing are correct.

[stardog]

UIL website has the cutoff #'s posted
Matt on The Old Coach has a lot of individual school enrollment #'s

Dist 13
---Robinson - 712 to 4A-II
---China Spring - don't know #'s - last realignment was 718
---La Vega - don't know #'s - last realignment was 740
.
Dist 14
---Liberty Hill - 1092 - safe
---Boerne - 1087 - safe
---Bandera - 673 - to 4A-II
.
Dist 15
---Gonzales - 722 - to 4A-II
.
Dist 16
---don't have #'s for King, La Feria, or Zapata
'
Others -
---Graham - 711 - to 4A-II
---Pittsburg - 699 - to 4A-II

[1st and goal]

LH squeaked thru by 7 kids. They must've sent some home on count day...
....or they have a homer on the UIL board....

:)

[waterboy]

Haha..., let the accusations fly! :D

[Aesculus gilmus]

I never have seen Argyle's Snapshot Day number. Just heard that they dropped back down from a usually reliable source. Does anyone know the number?

[stardog]

All districts will be changed according to who moves up or down in classification. Doesn,t mean a team leaving say D-15-I goes to D-15-II. All districts will have 5,6-majority, or 7 teams. So some districts will look different from this years.

[Eagle Nation]

I thought we were at 752.


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[stardog]

I never have seen Argyle's Snapshot Day number. Just heard that they dropped back down from a usually reliable source. Does anyone know the number?
Old Coach shows Argyle at 752 - stays in 4A-I

[panfan]

LH squeaked thru by 7 kids. They must've sent some home on count day...
....or they have a homer on the UIL board....

:)

With the New school, we have seen a number of large subdivisions pop up out here in the last two years. Glad mine will be graduated in a few years, will be time to move further out. Next alignment, we go 5A.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Thanks, Eagle Nation. That's what I thought. I'll tell my source he is wrong.

[stardog]

LH squeaked thru by 7 kids. They must've sent some home on count day...
....or they have a homer on the UIL board....

:)

Read LHFactory's post #8 and #11 - says they can compete with 5A schools, remember they beat Brenham

[Rabid Cougar]

Dist 13
---Robinson - 712 to 4A-II
---China Spring - don't know #'s - last realignment was 718
---La Vega - don't know #'s - last realignment was 740

Robinson drops to DII
China Spring - Safe
LaVega - Safe
Gatesville - Safe
Lampasas - Safe
Burnet - Safe

[Cam]

LH squeaked thru by 7 kids. They must've sent some home on count day...
....or they have a homer on the UIL board....

:)

....yeah....but with them new town homes just completed, they'll be into 5A numbers in about a week!....hehehe..:D:D....they don't want to move up...they're havin' too much fun whoopin' up on Burnet these days!!......:bigcry::doh::D

[stardog]

....yeah....but with them new town homes just completed, they'll be into 5A numbers in about a week!....hehehe..:D:D....they don't want to move up...they're havin' too much fun whoopin' up on Burnet these days!!......:bigcry::doh::D
closing dates where moved back until after snap shot day

[panfan]

Robinson drops to DII
China Spring - Safe
LaVega - Safe
Gatesville - Safe
Lampasas - Safe
Burnet - Safe

I'm betting that Lampasas and Burnet get moved back into the same district with LH, Fred, Canyon Lake, and Boerne. Taylor will be moved to another district, and Bandera drops to D2

New district will be LH, Burnet, Lamp, Canyon Lake, Fred, Boerne.

[LHPfactory]

Read LHFactory's post #8 and #11 - says they can compete with 5A schools, remember they beat Brenham

Yep, I have confidence in our kids and program. LH doesnt have alot more enrollment than Burnet. It wasn't long ago Burnet was about twice the size of LHHS.
Come Fall of 2018 LH will be very ready for 5A.

[LHPfactory]

I'm betting that Lampasas and Burnet get moved back into the same district with LH, Fred, Canyon Lake, and Boerne. Taylor will be moved to another district, and Bandera drops to D2

New district will be LH, Burnet, Lamp, Canyon Lake, Fred, Boerne.

I was thinking the same thing.

[91 lion]

Read LHFactory's post #8 and #11 - says they can compete with 5A schools, remember they beat Brenham

If I were LH, I wouldnt be so eager to make the jump....Brownwood has been that team where every district foe was double our size. I have no doubt that you will compete and compete well, but it takes its toll....usually becoming a war of attrition...

Case and point. 2007-2008 season.

Brownwood was ranked in the top 10 preseason in 4a.....got off to a 4-0 start playing similar sized teams.....Wylie (funny that their enrollment was larger than Bwd at the time, but they were 3a), Sweetwater, Lakeview and Burnet.

Then we played Cooper and lost a close match to a very big school....

4-1 heading into district....looking good.

Next week, we shocked #1 Copperas Cove (w/ Robert Griffin Jr) at their place....now looking really good.......Buuuuut little Knicks and bruises starting to show....

Game 2 of district, we drop a very winnable game to Killeen high 25-22.....many call it a let down, but we were knicked up.....got back on track with a win against Waco university the next week in a blowout win 48-14....

......but then it happened.....

We head into a game....not healthy against a team that would beat us 9 out of 10 times, even if we were healthy....our boys played hard, but we're outclassed by a very good, very big Waco High team that just took it to us.....no other way to put it 34-14.....and we didn't just lose on the scorecard....

Limping into the last game, we lost to a very big...very well coached and twice our size Waco Midway team. We were favored in the game, but we're again outsized and outnumbered. 36-22

I have no doubts that that Lion team would have fared much better in the class 'where we belonged', instead of playing teams more than twice our size....but it was not to be in class 4a (now 5a)...

A team that was ranked in the top 5....finished 6-4 and no playoffs...

Moving up in class doesn't mean playing teams with 500 more students.....it means playing teams with 1000+ more students, if you're at the bottom of enrollment numbers....

LH would find their way, an no doubt find some success, as Brownwood did, but the week in week out games against big big teams with backups and talent to spare takes its toll

[LHPfactory]

....yeah....but with them new town homes just completed, they'll be into 5A numbers in about a week!....hehehe..:D:D....they don't want to move up...they're havin' too much fun whoopin' up on Burnet these days!!......:bigcry::doh::D

Yes Cam, but Ive noticed lots of the kids that move in as High Schoolers dont make it in our program. Its the home grown boys that produce. Now the kids we are getting in Elementary and Intermediate are going to make a huge difference down the road.

[LHPfactory]

If I were LH, I wouldnt be so eager to make the jump....Brownwood has been that team where every district foe was double our size. I have no doubt that you will compete and compete well, but it takes its toll....usually becoming a war of attrition...

Case and point. 2007-2008 season.

Brownwood was ranked in the top 10 preseason in 4a.....got off to a 4-0 start playing similar sized teams.....Wylie (funny that their enrollment was larger than Bwd at the time, but they were 3a), Sweetwater, Lakeview and Burnet.

Then we played Cooper and lost a close match to a very big school....

4-1 heading into district....looking good.

Next week, we beat Copperas Cove at their place....now looking really good.......Buuuuut little Knicks and bruises starting to show....

Game 2 of district, we drop a very winnable game to Killeen high 25-22.....many call it a let down, but we were knicked up.....got back on track with a win against Waco university the next week in a blowout win 48-14....

......but then it happened.....

We head into a game....not healthy against a team that would beat us 9 out of 10 times, even if we were healthy....our boys played hard, but we're outclassed by a very good, very big Waco High team that just took it to us.....no other way to put it......and we didn't just lose on the scorecard....

Limping into the last game, we lost to a very big...very well coached and twice our size Waco Midway team. We were favored in the game, but we're again outsized and outnumbered.

I have no doubts that that Lion team would have fared much better in the class 'where we belonged', instead of playing teams more than twice our size....but it was not to be in class 4a (now 5a)...

A team that was ranked in the top 5....finished 6-4 and no playoffs...

Moving up in class doesn't mean playing teams with 500 more students.....it means playing teams with 1000+ more students, if you're at the bottom of enrollment numbers....

LH would find their way, an no doubt find some success, as Brownwood did, but the week in week out games against big big teams with backups and talent to spare takes its toll

Good post and I agree totally.

[Rocket Man]

Dist 13
---Robinson - 712 to 4A-II


I guess this means no Brunettes or Badgers or Hornets or Pirates for the Rockets, but it will probably mean Leopards, Cadets, Blackcats, & Goats...............as Johnny Carson used say, "Wild, weird stuff........"

This is of course a guess; as who knows how the winds will blow when the stinkin' UIL gets done with the map.

[Rocket Man]

Robinson drops to DII
China Spring - Safe
LaVega - Safe
Gatesville - Safe
Lampasas - Safe
Burnet - Safe

You guys gonna be over 722?

[panfan]

If I were LH, I wouldnt be so eager to make the jump....Brownwood has been that team where every district foe was double our size. I have no doubt that you will compete and compete well, but it takes its toll....usually becoming a war of attrition...

Case and point. 2007-2008 season.

Brownwood was ranked in the top 10 preseason in 4a.....got off to a 4-0 start playing similar sized teams.....Wylie (funny that their enrollment was larger than Bwd at the time, but they were 3a), Sweetwater, Lakeview and Burnet.

Then we played Cooper and lost a close match to a very big school....

4-1 heading into district....looking good.

Next week, we shocked #1 Copperas Cove (w/ Robert Griffin Jr) at their place....now looking really good.......Buuuuut little Knicks and bruises starting to show....

Game 2 of district, we drop a very winnable game to Killeen high 25-22.....many call it a let down, but we were knicked up.....got back on track with a win against Waco university the next week in a blowout win 48-14....

......but then it happened.....

We head into a game....not healthy against a team that would beat us 9 out of 10 times, even if we were healthy....our boys played hard, but we're outclassed by a very good, very big Waco High team that just took it to us.....no other way to put it 34-14.....and we didn't just lose on the scorecard....

Limping into the last game, we lost to a very big...very well coached and twice our size Waco Midway team. We were favored in the game, but we're again outsized and outnumbered. 36-22

I have no doubts that that Lion team would have fared much better in the class 'where we belonged', instead of playing teams more than twice our size....but it was not to be in class 4a (now 5a)...

A team that was ranked in the top 5....finished 6-4 and no playoffs...

Moving up in class doesn't mean playing teams with 500 more students.....it means playing teams with 1000+ more students, if you're at the bottom of enrollment numbers....

LH would find their way, an no doubt find some success, as Brownwood did, but the week in week out games against big big teams with backups and talent to spare takes its toll

I don't think LH is eager at all to move to 5a, just know it is inevitable due to growth that is occurring.

[stardog]

PAN - you'll have some new rivalry teams - that new school Glenn, Leander schools (some moving to 6A), Cedar Park, and Georgetown's

[stardog]

anyone know China Spring and La Vega's #'s ?

[panfan]

PAN - you'll have some new rivalry teams - that new school Glenn, Leander schools (some moving to 6A), Cedar Park, and Georgetown's

In a couple of years that is likely. Rivalries take a while to build though.

[Rocket Man]

anyone know China Spring and La Vega's #'s ?

Rabid mentioned a few comments up that CS & LV were safe, which I take to mean they stay D1, but as far as their individual number, I haven't seen anything.

[91 lion]

I don't think LH is eager at all to move to 5a, just know it is inevitable due to growth that is occurring.

Growth is good...and when it happens, I'll be rooting for you, for sure.

The biggest letdown you will have is playing in front of half filled stadiums.....you guys will bring your fans no doubt, but many of the larger schools travel awful....actually pretty sad when you think about it....schools with 2000+ enrollment having 1000 folks in the stands....

[WOS87]

If LaMarque remains a high school and isn't merged they'll drop to 3A. Quickest plummet through 2 classifications I've ever seen.

[chaingang]

WOS dropping to 3A D1!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!:1omg!:











I kid, I kid:evillol:

[WOS87]

WOS dropping to 3A D1!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!:1omg!:











I kid, I kid:evillol:

Haha! Cameron wouldn't be too happy about that monopoly they have going on down there.

[garciap77]

lol so Wylie is still in 4A

No, 3A Div I!

[SHSBulldog00]

12 4A Division 2

Bellville safe
Brookshire Royal safe
Sweeny safe
Wharton safe

Columbus drop


I don't see anyone to move in as a 5th team. The UIL hate having 4 team districts so what could they do?

[WOS87]

12 4A Division 2

Bellville safe
Brookshire Royal safe
Sweeny safe
Wharton safe

Columbus drop


I don't see anyone to move in as a 5th team. The UIL hate having 4 team districts so what could they do?

Get ready for the 3 HISD schools with LaMarque dropping down!

[SHSBulldog00]

Get ready for the 3 HISD schools with LaMarque dropping down!

You think they may make us go to 7 teams or just move Sweeny to HISD schools?

[WOS87]

Brookshire and Bellville are closer. I could definitely see that as a 5 team district. All five schools in 9 4A2 should remain there.

[chaingang]

Brookshire and Bellville are closer. I could definitely see that as a 5 team district. All five schools in 9 4A2 should remain there.

Add Jasper to 9-4A-2

[SHSBulldog00]

Brookshire and Bellville are closer. I could definitely see that as a 5 team district. All five schools in 9 4A2 should remain there.

Same here, but what then with Wharton and Sweeny put them in with Gonzales and Cuero?

[nobogey72]

And comfortably under the limit. Eight schools larger than us... More interesting is that Abilene High and Cooper will both be 5A if the numbers I'm seeing are correct.

Yep, and more than likely after the next realignment in 2018, Abilene High, Cooper, and Wylie will all 3 be in the same district. That will be awesome

[slingshot]

Yep, and more than likely after the next realignment in 2018, Abilene High, Cooper, and Wylie will all 3 be in the same district. That will be awesomeI think we would beat Cooper this year... Abilene High? That might be another story!

[Rabid Cougar]

I'm betting that Lampasas and Burnet get moved back into the same district with LH, Fred, Canyon Lake, and Boerne. Taylor will be moved to another district, and Bandera drops to D2

New district will be LH, Burnet, Lamp, Canyon Lake, Fred, Boerne.


Well, the remander of District 13 (CS, Gatesville and LV) will be up for a new Region:

1.Go West to Region 1 and get thrown into a District with Stephenville
2. Go East to Region III with Navasota.
3 Go North Region II is Alvarado and Kennedale.

The Big Question is "who else"???? I dont see any 3A D1 teams in those immediate areas moving up.

[slingshot]

What schools moved up from 4A to 5A?

[SHSBulldog00]

What schools moved up from 4A to 5A?

Only one that I can confirm right now is Spendora 1107

[WOS87]

George Ranch is moving up to 6A. Highland Park (surprise surprise), Amarillo, Denton Ryan are all dropping to 5A.

[SHSBulldog00]

Who might Midlothian Heritage (D1) and Waxahachie Life (D2) get paired up with in 4A?

[Rocket Man]

Well, the remander of District 13 (CS, Gatesville and LV) will be up for a new Region:

1.Go West to Region 1 and get thrown into a District with Stephenville
2. Go East to Region III with Navasota.
3 Go North Region II is Alvarado and Kennedale.

The Big Question is "who else"???? I dont see any 3A D1 teams in those immediate areas moving up.

Or they could leave D13 alone and have a 5 team district; there are currently 4 districts in Div 1 that have only 5 teams

[stardog]

Yes Cam, but Ive noticed lots of the kids that move in as High Schoolers dont make it in our program. Its the home grown boys that produce. Now the kids we are getting in Elementary and Intermediate are going to make a huge difference down the road.

That's what you call favoritism - unless they are a star athlete its hard to move in and take someone else's place that has been playing there. It goes on everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scoop27]

Have been looking to see what East Bernard turned in to find out if they will go Division I or Division II in Class 3A. Thanks for any help

[stardog]

In a couple of years that is likely. Rivalries take a while to build though.
It doesn't take long to dislike purple. LH looked good at last game - wore Burnet's Black and White with little purple around numbers.

[SHSBulldog00]

Have been looking to see what East Bernard turned in to find out if they will go Division I or Division II in Class 3A. Thanks for any help

East Bernard 313

[Scoop27]

Thanks Bulldog

[Eagle Nation]

I think the UIL keeps it high enough so Gilmer does have to lose to Argyle in football. 😜


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[stardog]

Wish UIL would tell the numbers so we can discuss the makeup of districts - who we think will be where - get the map and pins out and opinions

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

I'm looking for some numbers from various schools to give myself a better idea of what 16-4A DII would look like. I got 2 of the 3 I was looking for, but there's one that was right at that 3A/4A cutoff the last realignment and I've yet to see what # they turned in.

So, if anyone can find out the # turned in by Lyford, that would be terrific.

[Rabid Cougar]

Or they could leave D13 alone and have a 5 team district; there are currently 4 districts in Div 1 that have only 5 teams

But Robinson is dropping to DII and Lampasas and Burnet are going back to their own kind (Hill folk). That leaves only three in the area. They will replace Rusk with Robinson in DII.

I feel they will find a way to put Navasota in with us. Its no further there from Waco than to Burnet .

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Looking for # from Lyford.

Also, testing out the new sig picture. Home Sweet Home!

[lostaussie]

I think the UIL keeps it high enough so Gilmer does have to lose to Argyle in football. ��


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25% of the time we don't:D

[Old Green]

Looking for # from Lyford.

Also, testing out the new sig picture. Home Sweet Home!Very nice Sig !

[Old Green]

Dist 13
---Robinson - 712 to 4A-II
---China Spring - don't know #'s - last realignment was 718
---La Vega - don't know #'s - last realignment was 740
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Dist 14
---Liberty Hill - 1092 - safe
---Boerne - 1087 - safe
---Bandera - 673 - to 4A-II
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Dist 15
---Gonzales - 722 - to 4A-II
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Dist 16
---don't have #'s for King, La Feria, or Zapata
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Others -
---Graham - 711 - to 4A-II
---Pittsburg - 699 - to 4A-IIMatt on TOC show numbers for
Gonzales 722
Cuero 687
Sinton 636.5
Ingleside 631
Aransas Pass 504

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Very nice Sig !

Love that South Padre Island! Also part of Port Isabel Tarpon territory. :)

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Looking for # from Lyford.

Also, testing out the new sig picture. Home Sweet Home!

Great Picture TFINT

[bearbear78]

If I were LH, I wouldnt be so eager to make the jump....Brownwood has been that team where every district foe was double our size. I have no doubt that you will compete and compete well, but it takes its toll....usually becoming a war of attrition...

Case and point. 2007-2008 season.

Brownwood was ranked in the top 10 preseason in 4a.....got off to a 4-0 start playing similar sized teams.....Wylie (funny that their enrollment was larger than Bwd at the time, but they were 3a), Sweetwater, Lakeview and Burnet.

Then we played Cooper and lost a close match to a very big school....

4-1 heading into district....looking good.

Next week, we shocked #1 Copperas Cove (w/ Robert Griffin Jr) at their place....now looking really good.......Buuuuut little Knicks and bruises starting to show....

Game 2 of district, we drop a very winnable game to Killeen high 25-22.....many call it a let down, but we were knicked up.....got back on track with a win against Waco university the next week in a blowout win 48-14....

......but then it happened.....

We head into a game....not healthy against a team that would beat us 9 out of 10 times, even if we were healthy....our boys played hard, but we're outclassed by a very good, very big Waco High team that just took it to us.....no other way to put it 34-14.....and we didn't just lose on the scorecard....

Limping into the last game, we lost to a very big...very well coached and twice our size Waco Midway team. We were favored in the game, but we're again outsized and outnumbered. 36-22

I have no doubts that that Lion team would have fared much better in the class 'where we belonged', instead of playing teams more than twice our size....but it was not to be in class 4a (now 5a)...

A team that was ranked in the top 5....finished 6-4 and no playoffs...

Moving up in class doesn't mean playing teams with 500 more students.....it means playing teams with 1000+ more students, if you're at the bottom of enrollment numbers....

LH would find their way, an no doubt find some success, as Brownwood did, but the week in week out games against big big teams with backups and talent to spare takes its toll
Spot on...good post.

[Rocket Man]

But Robinson is dropping to DII and Lampasas and Burnet are going back to their own kind (Hill folk). That leaves only three in the area. They will replace Rusk with Robinson in DII.

I feel they will find a way to put Navasota in with us. Its no further there from Waco than to Burnet .

I realize we are dropping down. What I meant is that they would leave D13 as it is with the exception of us moving out, which would leave the district with 5 teams.; CS, BB, LB, LV & GH. Otherwise they're gonna have a mess (my opinion) finding a home for y'all, LV &. GH.

[stardog]

China Spring #'s are - 765

[Rabid Cougar]

China Spring #'s are - 765

And that will be closer to 800 next year.

[Rabid Cougar]

I realize we are dropping down. What I meant is that they would leave D13 as it is with the exception of us moving out, which would leave the district with 5 teams.; CS, BB, LB, LV & GH. Otherwise they're gonna have a mess (my opinion) finding a home for y'all, LV &. GH.

It will be a mess for sure. Navasota (Houston ISD Schools) and Rusk (same district as Lorena) are teams that come to mind that are really stuck with no better options. I can even see Gatesville going south with Lampasas and Burnet.

[AmistadMan 74]

Well, Seminole moving down and Denver City up to 4ADII is sure to effect us.

We might be in 7 or 8 team district next year.
So out west in 4A D-1
Andrews 1059
Big Spring 1011
Levelland 814
Wylie 1055
Pampa 965
Thats a mess hope they don't ship Andrews to El Paso again-those 300 mile district games are rough

[slingshot]

So out west in 4A D-1
Andrews 1059
Big Spring 1011
Levelland 814
Wylie 1055
Pampa 965
Thats a mess hope they don't ship Andrews to El Paso again-those 300 mile district games are roughWhat are the #'s for the EP schools--San Elizario, Clint and Clint MV?

[SHSBulldog00]

What are the #'s for the EP schools--San Elizario, Clint and Clint MV?

San Elizario 1040
Mountain View 800
Clint Missing #

[arges]

Galveston County paper mentioned that TEA wants to close down LaMarque's charter school down because of low performance. It's gonna be tough on whoever gets this bunch.

[SHSBulldog00]

Galveston County paper mentioned that TEA wants to close down LaMarque's charter school down because of low performance. It's gonna be tough on whoever gets this bunch.

I heard from some people that they will let the kids continue to go to the HS but they will be under Texas City ISD most likely. Things could change.

[Rocket Man]

It will be a mess for sure. Navasota (Houston ISD Schools) and Rusk (same district as Lorena) are teams that come to mind that are really stuck with no better options. I can even see Gatesville going south with Lampasas and Burnet.

Groesbeck may go down to 3A; so Rusk might stay put. Robinson in & Groesbeck out.