AP Poll, 10/12/15

[HEMOTOXIC]

Class 6A
School Total Points Prv
1. Allen (21) (7-0) 246 1
2. Katy (1) (6-0) 201 2
3. Cedar Hill (1) (6-0) 191 3
4. Euless Trinity (2) (7-0) 177 4
5. Cibolo Steele (7-0) 160 5
6. Lake Travis (6-0) 111 7
7. Converse Judson (7-0) 85 8
8. Austin Westlake (6-0) 67 9
9. Dickinson (6-0) 35 10
10. Manvel (5-1) 20 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Spring Westfield 18. 12, Klein Collins 17. 13, Pearland 15. 14, Odessa Permian 10. 15, Katy Seven Lakes 9. 16, Denton Guyer 5. 16, Southlake Carroll 5. 18, The Woodlands 2. 19, McAllen Memorial 1.

Class 5A
School Total Points Prv
1. Cedar Park (23) (6-0) 248 1
2. Crosby (1) (6-0) 203 2
3. Richmond George Ranch (6-0) 190 3
4. Austin Vandegrift (1) (6-0) 177 4
5. Aledo (5-1) 138 5
6. Temple (6-1) 120 6
7. Kerrville Tivy (6-0) 119 7
8. Mansfield Lake Ridge (6-0) 89 8
9. Mansfield Summit (6-0) 31 NR
10. Cedar Park Vista Ridge (5-1) 23 10
Others receiving votes: 11, Longview 6. 11, Houston Stratford 6. 13, Marshall 5. 13, Ennis 5. 13, Edinburg Vela 5. 16, Fort Bend Elkins 3. 16, Frisco Lone Star 3. 18, College Station 2. 19, Lufkin 1. 19, Lancaster 1.

Class 4A
School Total Points Prv
1. Navasota (22) (6-0) 247 1
2. Gilmer (2) (6-0) 216 2
3. Celina (1) (6-0) 200 3
4. Kennedale (6-0) 170 4
5. Argyle (5-1) 127 5
6. Sinton (6-0) 104 6
7. Sweetwater (6-0) 88 7
8. West Orange-Stark (6-1) 66 8
9. Geronimo Navarro (6-0) 62 9
10. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau (5-1) 33 10
Others receiving votes: 11, China Spring 22. 12, Waco La Vega 17. 13, Pittsburg 12. 14, Giddings 4. 15, La Grange 3. 16, Henderson 2. 17, Brownwood 1. 17, Carthage 1.

Class 3A
School Total Points Prv
1. Mineola (19) (6-0) 236 1
2. Brock (2) (6-0) 208 2
3. Franklin (6-0) 187 3
4. Cameron Yoe (3) (5-1) 174 4
5. East Chambers (6-0) 143 5
6. Waskom (6-0) 131 6
7. Wall (7-0) 101 7
8. Pottsboro (1) (3-3) 71 8
9. Malakoff (6-0) 56 9
10. Blanco (6-0) 32 10
Others receiving votes: 11, Teague 11. 12, Eastland 8. 13, Post 5. 13, Newton 5. 15, Odem 2. 15, Kirbyville 2. 17, Breckenridge 1. 17, Cisco 1. 17, Palestine Westwood 1.

Class 2A
School Total Points Prv
1. Canadian (22) (6-0) 238 1
2. Bremond (3) (7-0) 225 2
3. Mason (7-0) 195 3
4. Shiner (6-0) 181 4
5. Alto (6-0) 144 6
6. Seagraves (6-1) 92 7
7. Mart (5-1) 82 8
8. Stratford (6-0) 53 10
9. Albany (5-1) 45 9
10. Refugio (4-2) 43 5
Others receiving votes: 11, Iraan 33. 12, Crawford 17. 13, Price Carlisle 11. 14, Falls City 8. 15, Lovelady 3. 16, Mertzon Irion County 3. 17, New Deal 1. 18, Bruni 1.

[91 lion]

Class 4A
School Total Points Prv
1. Navasota (22) (6-0) 247 1
2. Gilmer (2) (6-0) 216 2
3. Celina (1) (6-0) 200 3
4. Kennedale (6-0) 170 4
5. Argyle (5-1) 127 5
6. Sinton (6-0) 104 6
7. Sweetwater (6-0) 88 7
8. West Orange-Stark (6-1) 66 8
9. Geronimo Navarro (6-0) 62 9
10. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau (5-1) 33 10
Others receiving votes: 11, China Spring 22. 12, Waco La Vega 17. 13, Pittsburg 12. 14, Giddings 4. 15, La Grange 3. 16, Henderson 2. 17, Brownwood 1. 17, Carthage 1.


Cant hardly stomach the AP poll, but when is the last time that Graham, Stephenville, Abilene Wylie and Liberty Hill were all excluded from votes (all at the same time).....not even in the 'other's receiving votes'....

AW and LH should of at least gotten votes, imo

Alvarado too, for that matter.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Class 4A
School Total Points Prv
1. Navasota (22) (6-0) 247 1
2. Gilmer (2) (6-0) 216 2
3. Celina (1) (6-0) 200 3
4. Kennedale (6-0) 170 4
5. Argyle (5-1) 127 5
6. Sinton (6-0) 104 6
7. Sweetwater (6-0) 88 7
8. West Orange-Stark (6-1) 66 8
9. Geronimo Navarro (6-0) 62 9
10. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau (5-1) 33 10
Others receiving votes: 11, China Spring 22. 12, Waco La Vega 17. 13, Pittsburg 12. 14, Giddings 4. 15, La Grange 3. 16, Henderson 2. 17, Brownwood 1. 17, Carthage 1.


Cant hardly stomach the AP poll, but when is the last time that Graham, Stephenville, Abilene Wylie and Liberty Hill were all excluded from votes (all at the same time).....not even in the 'other's receiving votes'....

AW and LH should of at least gotten votes, imo

Alvarado too, for that matter.

All that you mentioned have loss 2 games at minimum except Alvarado, who lost to #12 LV by the score 53-6. Who should any of those teams be ahead of?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Orange Grove surprise they didn't get a vote from somebody, top notch passing attack.

277 pts scored 55.4 avg

64 pts given up 12.8 avg

5-0 record

[d0tc0m]

Class 4A
School Total Points Prv
1. Navasota (22) (6-0) 247 1
2. Gilmer (2) (6-0) 216 2
3. Celina (1) (6-0) 200 3
4. Kennedale (6-0) 170 4
5. Argyle (5-1) 127 5
6. Sinton (6-0) 104 6
7. Sweetwater (6-0) 88 7
8. West Orange-Stark (6-1) 66 8
9. Geronimo Navarro (6-0) 62 9
10. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau (5-1) 33 10
Others receiving votes: 11, China Spring 22. 12, Waco La Vega 17. 13, Pittsburg 12. 14, Giddings 4. 15, La Grange 3. 16, Henderson 2. 17, Brownwood 1. 17, Carthage 1.


Cant hardly stomach the AP poll, but when is the last time that Graham, Stephenville, Abilene Wylie and Liberty Hill were all excluded from votes (all at the same time).....not even in the 'other's receiving votes'....

AW and LH should of at least gotten votes, imo

Alvarado too, for that matter.


That is odd to see those teams with not even a single vote. However, we all know what the AP poll is worth. And here we see the fallacy of not having it split into DI and DII. Six of the top 10 teams are DII, and eight of the top 17 are DII. You split the poll into respective divisions, and you'd likely see those teams you were talking about make it into at least the 'receiving votes' portion of the poll.

[91 lion]

All that you mentioned have loss 2 games at minimum except Alvarado, who lost to #12 LV by the score 53-6. Who should any of those teams be ahead of?

the initial point is that i just don't think i've ever seen that....with all 4 teams missing.

and true, they all have 2 losses or more, and this poll, more than others, is driven by the W-L more than anything else, but I would take AW over 3/4 of the teams listed in a head to head and LH in at least 1/2 of them.

[Rocket Man]

Nevermind, I couldn't get stuff to line up correctly and then couldn't just delete the post

[91 lion]

That is odd to see those teams with not even a single vote. However, we all know what the AP poll is worth. And here we see the fallacy of not having it split into DI and DII. Six of the top 10 teams are DII, and eight of the top 17 are DII. You split the poll into respective divisions, and you'd likely see those teams you were talking about make it into at least the 'receiving votes' portion of the poll.

True, True and True. After week 5, it really makes no sense to keep the 2 divisions ranked together.....since their paths will never cross again.

[HEMOTOXIC]

the initial point is that i just don't think i've ever seen that....with all 4 teams missing.

and true, they all have 2 losses or more, and this poll, more than others, is driven by the W-L more than anything else, but I would take AW over 3/4 of the teams listed in a head to head and LH in at least 1/2 of them.

Well, that's what the playoffs are for. Can't wait! Even for my Rattlers, are we that good or nah? We shall see.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

the initial point is that i just don't think i've ever seen that....with all 4 teams missing.

and true, they all have 2 losses or more, and this poll, more than others, is driven by the W-L more than anything else, but I would take AW over 3/4 of the teams listed in a head to head and LH in at least 1/2 of them.your opinion on that is yours and that's as flaw as theirs lol

[91 lion]

Well, that's what the playoffs are for. Can't wait! Even for my Rattlers, are we that good or nah? We shall see.

thats right!

As for your rattlers, I have a feeling that they will be juuuuuust fine.

[91 lion]

your opinion on that is yours and that's as flaw as theirs lol

true....mine is flawed, but not as much as theirs......case and point.....there is no way i would have Henderson sitting 2 spots ahead of Carthage, 3 days after the Dawgs handed their shorts to them....

so, no....not 'as' flawed....lol

[Indians212]

true....mine is flawed, but not as much as theirs......case and point.....there is no way i would have Henderson sitting 2 spots ahead of Carthage, 3 days after the Dawgs handed their shorts to them....

so, no....not 'as' flawed....lol

But you would have Brownwood ahead of Alvarado.:mad:

[91 lion]

But you would have Brownwood ahead of Alvarado.:mad:

actually, i wouldnt....you guys are clearly ignored in virtually all the polls....not sure why thats the case, as you have a very good team this year.....maybe its the 53-6 dankey stomp, out of the gates....or that you just arent viewed as a traditional power....whatever the case, you guys are being grossly overlooked.

[chaingang]

actually, i wouldnt....you guys are clearly ignored in virtually all the polls....not sure why thats the case, as you have a very good team this year.....maybe its the 53-6 dankey stomp, out of the gates....or that you just arent viewed as a traditional power....whatever the case, you guys are being grossly overlooked.

Like someone said earlier. This poll is all about win/loss. WOS went from 3 to 8 because of losing to a Richmond Foster team that is 4 times larger(Literally) and just barely lost to the 5A #3 team.

[Yoe_09]

Like someone said earlier. This poll is all about win/loss. WOS went from 3 to 8 because of losing to a Richmond Foster team that is 4 times larger(Literally) and just barely lost to the 5A #3 team.

The AP poll likes to rank wins and loses too much. Yes, winning is important, but they rarely look at who you are playing and take that into account. WO-S could lose to Allen by 21 and would still drop.

[Sweetwater Red]

Sinton, La Marque and La Grange should have dropped for not shutting out their opponents. :rolleyes:

1 Gilmer (6-0) W: Melissa, 60-0
2 West Orange-Stark (6-1) W: Liberty, 49-0
3 Celina (6-0) W: Anna, 52-0
4 Sinton (6-0) W: Jourdanton, 35-8
5 Sweetwater (6-0) W: Fort Stockton, 44-0
6 Geronimo Navarro (6-0) W: Lytle, 70-0
7 La Grange (6-1) W: Smithville, 51-13
8 Orange Grove (5-0) W: Raymondville, 65-0
9 Giddings (6-0) Idle
10 La Marque (5-2) W: Houston Worthing, 62-20

[SaltySixes]

Does anyone have the pigskin preps 4a division 2?

[WOS87]

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Sinton, La Marque and La Grange should have dropped for not shutting out their opponents. :rolleyes:

1 Gilmer (6-0) W: Melissa, 60-0
2 West Orange-Stark (6-1) W: Liberty, 49-0
3 Celina (6-0) W: Anna, 52-0
4 Sinton (6-0) W: Jourdanton, 35-8
5 Sweetwater (6-0) W: Fort Stockton, 44-0
6 Geronimo Navarro (6-0) W: Lytle, 70-0
7 La Grange (6-1) W: Smithville, 51-13
8 Orange Grove (5-0) W: Raymondville, 65-0
9 Giddings (6-0) Idle
10 La Marque (5-2) W: Houston Worthing, 62-20

LOL.

Like I said two nights ago I don't see the top ten changing at all the rest of the regular season unless a major upset occurs. What are the closest games that are marquee matchups left out of that group? Kennedale vs Alvarado and Giddings vs LaGrange? Sinton doesn't have the easiest remaining schedule and I'm actually interested to see how Navarro does against a WAY under the radar Wimberley.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

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LOL.

Like I said two nights ago I don't see the top ten changing at all the rest of the regular season unless a major upset occurs. What are the closest games that are marquee matchups left out of that group? Kennedale vs Alvarado and Giddings vs LaGrange? Sinton doesn't have the easiest remaining schedule and I'm actually interested to see how Navarro does against a WAY under the radar Wimberley. Orange Grove has a some what under the radar team in Rio Hondo at home and maybe Port Isabel on the road still on the schedule. I will go see Orange Grove at Port Isabel on Oct. 30th. Orange Grove is averaging 55 pts a game and that average will most likely go up after this week.

[cougartino]

Sinton, La Marque and La Grange should have dropped for not shutting out their opponents. :rolleyes:

1 Gilmer (6-0) W: Melissa, 60-0
2 West Orange-Stark (6-1) W: Liberty, 49-0
3 Celina (6-0) W: Anna, 52-0
4 Sinton (6-0) W: Jourdanton, 35-8
5 Sweetwater (6-0) W: Fort Stockton, 44-0
6 Geronimo Navarro (6-0) W: Lytle, 70-0
7 La Grange (6-1) W: Smithville, 51-13
8 Orange Grove (5-0) W: Raymondville, 65-0
9 Giddings (6-0) Idle
10 La Marque (5-2) W: Houston Worthing, 62-20

I can't speak for the Leps, but I agree 100% on the Coogs. And that 20 was in the first quarter. LAWD!

[PurplePop]

Sinton, La Marque and La Grange should have dropped for not shutting out their opponents. :rolleyes:

1 Gilmer (6-0) W: Melissa, 60-0
2 West Orange-Stark (6-1) W: Liberty, 49-0
3 Celina (6-0) W: Anna, 52-0
4 Sinton (6-0) W: Jourdanton, 35-8
5 Sweetwater (6-0) W: Fort Stockton, 44-0
6 Geronimo Navarro (6-0) W: Lytle, 70-0
7 La Grange (6-1) W: Smithville, 51-13
8 Orange Grove (5-0) W: Raymondville, 65-0
9 Giddings (6-0) Idle
10 La Marque (5-2) W: Houston Worthing, 62-20

Of course, it depends on the opponent. Lytle had negative total yards for the game against Navarro. The Panthers have a good D, but we're not the 1984 Chicago Bears. BTW, Lytle had plenty of strong kids that got after it. Their coaching, however, needs some adjustment to put it nicely.

[WOS87]

The Poll Sweetwater posted above is actually the Dave Campbell 4A-D2 poll this week.. not the AP. I actually like it better than the AP and not just being a homer. Still very very strange seeing 7 out of the 10 being from Regions III and IV. Whomever emerges from the bottom half of that bracket will definitely be battle-tested. Injuries are the question though.

[PurplePop]

The Poll Sweetwater posted above is actually the Dave Campbell 4A-D2 poll this week.. not the AP. I actually like it better than the AP and not just being a homer. Still very very strange seeing 7 out of the 10 being from Regions III and IV. Whomever emerges from the bottom half of that bracket will definitely be battle-tested. Injuries are the question though.
I like the Dave Campbell poll better, too. WOS should be higher in the AP. The way you played Foster was a plus in my opinion.

[toddg]

I like the "Totem" poll..it states good fortunes for the Indians..

[chaingang]

I like the "Totem" poll..it states good fortunes for the Indians..

I see what you did there...:thumbsup:

[pirate4state]

Sinton, La Marque and La Grange should have dropped for not shutting out their opponents. :rolleyes:

1 Gilmer (6-0) W: Melissa, 60-0
2 West Orange-Stark (6-1) W: Liberty, 49-0
3 Celina (6-0) W: Anna, 52-0
4 Sinton (6-0) W: Jourdanton, 35-8
5 Sweetwater (6-0) W: Fort Stockton, 44-0
6 Geronimo Navarro (6-0) W: Lytle, 70-0
7 La Grange (6-1) W: Smithville, 51-13
8 Orange Grove (5-0) W: Raymondville, 65-0
9 Giddings (6-0) Idle
10 La Marque (5-2) W: Houston Worthing, 62-20

:weeping: :weeping:

[cowboyandchrist]

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LOL.

Like I said two nights ago I don't see the top ten changing at all the rest of the regular season unless a major upset occurs. What are the closest games that are marquee matchups left out of that group? Kennedale vs Alvarado and Giddings vs LaGrange? Sinton doesn't have the easiest remaining schedule and I'm actually interested to see how Navarro does against a WAY under the radar Wimberley.

The poll is good for conversation, but everyone knows who will be making the move up the list come playoff time in the DI. God Bless player, coaches, and fans.