Bands at football games

[orange machine]

Okay so I've noticed over the last few years Celina's band plays the same songs every single game and have played the same songs for at least the last 4 years. Is this common because I would think you would play all kinds of different songs?

[orange machine]

Not to mention it almost seems planed out that they play at around the same time every game. I'm all about having a band because they can get things more fired up but the same old stuff gets old.

[Tejastrue]

There are several staple songs that get played every year. Many bands play the same music. It can get a bit expensive to purchase new sheet music. I guess it all depends on the school budget unless of course you are in Argyle. I hear they recruit their band kids. lol

[orange machine]

There are several staple songs that get played every year. Many bands play the same music. It can get a bit expensive to purchase new sheet music. I guess it all depends on the school budget unless of course you are in Argyle. I hear they recruit their band kids. lol

Lol haha funny. Well I would think you could buy a few new songs in 4 years at least.

[briandumith*]

If I had three wishes... One would be all bands would NEVER EVER PLAY "The Final Countdown" Again!

[orange machine]

If I had three wishes... One would be all bands would NEVER EVER PLAY "The Final Countdown" Again!

Haha

[Bullaholic]

I'm no band expert by a long shot, but I've been told that bands today tend to play the same programs nearly every week because that gives them more practice for playing that program at band competitions, hence getting a better rating.

[orange machine]

Celina has less than 40 members. I think a lot of reason they have low numbers is because it seems boring like they know it's gonna be the same thing every year. Celina should have at least 75 members I would think? I don't know maybe I'm wrong.

[orange machine]

I'm no band expert by a long shot, but I've been told that bands today tend to play the same programs nearly every week because that gives them more practice for playing that program at band competitions, hence getting a better rating.

Yeah that's the halftime show. I'm talking about while their in the stands they play the same thing every time and have for years.

[garageoffice]

It seems to me that there are definitely some staples. I can only speak for Kennedale, but our band mixes in a few new songs each year...including some selections from their competition show.

On another note, not only will Friday's Kennedale/Argyle game feature two highly-ranked, unbeaten teams but, if you're a fan of really good band music, it will also feature two of the top 4A bands in the state.

[Tejastrue]

Celina has less than 40 members. I think a lot of reason they have low numbers is because it seems boring like they know it's gonna be the same thing every year. Celina should have at least 75 members I would think? I don't know maybe I'm wrong.

Around 40 is about what Wimberley has I think...I agree the music needs to branch out but I am also the sort that loves to hear them play at the game regardless of whether it's the same old stuff. Where we were sitting yesterday in Converse I could hear the Orange Grove band moreso than Wimberley and enjoyed the music and their enthusiasm. Call me nerdy but you can't have the same atmosphere without the band playing the music, especially the fight songs.

[orange machine]

Around 40 is about what Wimberley has I think...I agree the music needs to branch out but I am also the sort that loves to hear them play at the game regardless of whether it's the same old stuff. Where we were sitting yesterday in Converse I could hear the Orange Grove band moreso than Wimberley and enjoyed the music and their enthusiasm. Call me nerdy but you can't have the same atmosphere without the band playing the music, especially the fight songs.

I totally agree, but it's time for some new material.

[BwdLion73]

There are several staple songs that get played every year. Many bands play the same music. It can get a bit expensive to purchase new sheet music. I guess it all depends on the school budget unless of course you are in Argyle. I hear they recruit their band kids. lol

They stole Grahams best clarinet player :)

[regaleagle]

They stole Grahams best clarinet player :)

Stole??? Don't you mean "recruited"? Yeah, our real estate specialist found the perfect setting for that family.....with a separate music studio adjoining the children's bedrooms, lol.

[Rabid Cougar]

Stole??? Don't you mean "recruited"? Yeah, our real estate specialist found the perfect setting for that family.....with a separate music studio adjoining the children's bedrooms, lol.

9 times out of 10 they dont know what is going on in the game. They play and do the exact same thing at the same time every game regardless of the circumstances on the field.

If I was a football coach I would envoke the UIL rule stating the bands cannot play during the game period.

[Tejastrue]

9 times out of 10 they dont know what is going on in the game. They play and do the exact same thing at the same time every game regardless of the circumstances on the field.

If I was a football coach I would envoke the UIL rule stating the bands cannot play during the game period.

Obviously you are not a coach or a band director and have no clue...

[garageoffice]

Obviously you are not a coach or a band director and have no clue...

Totally agree. Our band director calls for different tunes at different times based on what's happening in the game...and he's taught the drum majors to do the same. They even cheer and chant when they're not playing.

[orange machine]

Again I have no problem with the band I would just like to hear some new songs. I know in schools like Prosper the band director gets the ax if they are not playing new music and at a high level.

[garageoffice]

Totally agree. Our band director calls for different tunes at different times based on what's happening in the game...and he's taught the drum majors to do the same. They even cheer and chant when they're not playing.

In fact, the night before the Area Marching Band contest, when our band was going to have to leave at 4:00am Saturday morning, the band was released from their attendance requirement for the game. The next week the coaches and football players talked about how much they missed the noise and energy of the band in their absence.

[Tejastrue]

Again I have no problem with the band I would just like to hear some new songs. I know in schools like Prosper the band director gets the ax if they are not playing new music and at a high level.

After the last couple of seasons for Prosper I suspect they would be looking for a scapegoat...lol Bottom line is the band can't score a TD or make an int..but they bring a little something to the game that should always be there.. and that is tradition.

[Rabid Cougar]

Obviously you are not a coach or a band director and have no clue...

No, just a parent that has played and gone to high school football games for 40 years.
I said 9 out of 10 times. There are one or two band directors that have a clue but a vast majority? No.

Yea, If I were a coach I would envoke that rule every game. There is such rule you know. But YOU have no clue.

[jason]

All bands do is interfere with half time warm ups...
http://bbs.texasdownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?5294-I-have-a-COMPLAINT-on-the-LH-football-players&highlight=complaint

[Aguilafanatico]

There are several staple songs that get played every year. Many bands play the same music. It can get a bit expensive to purchase new sheet music. I guess it all depends on the school budget unless of course you are in Argyle. I hear they recruit their band kids. lol

:fnypost:

[Bullaholic]

I'm an old school football guy, but I've got to say that I support all of ours kids that wear the Bull maroon and white---I don't care what UIL activity in which they participate. Band parents/families love their kids as much as players and cheerleaders parents/families and come to watch them perform. Their should be no jealousies or competition among any of the extra-curricular activities--they should support each other. Remember, these kids don't get paid for what they do---they seek only our approval for their efforts---and I intend to encourage every one of them to be all that hey can be in any endeavor, and have fun while doing it. Now I will say that I would like to see some more inspiring upbeat music regularly played sometimes--I went to see the Marine Corps Band perform several times, and if there was anyone who was not proud and excited when they marched and played "Semper Fi" or "The Washington Post March"-- they didn't have a pulse. Also, anyone who is not excited when the announcer at Kyle Field says over the PA---"Now forming at the North End of Kyle Field...the nationally famous Fightin' Aggie Band" and they proceed down the field to the "Aggie War Hymn" is devoid of emotions and appreciation of excellence.

[Sweetwater Red]

I only skimmed through the thread but since it is about bands I'll add this whether it fits or not.

At the Allen vs. Desoto game Saturday Allen's band got a warning over the PA system for playing
while the Desoto QB was trying to call plays at the LOS. Who knew this was even a rule? Well,
it kind of backfired too because it pissed the Allen fans off. So, after they stopped booing, they
got loud and Desoto got penalized for false starts on two of the next three plays lol.

[toddg]

I only skimmed through the thread but since it is about bands I'll add this whether it fits or not.

At the Allen vs. Desoto game Saturday Allen's band got a warning over the PA system for playing
while the Desoto QB was trying to call plays at the LOS. Who knew this was even a rule? Well,
it kind of backfired too because it pissed the Allen fans off. So, after they stopped booing, they
got loud and Desoto got penalized for false starts on two of the next three plays lol. Allen has 800 members in their band, im sure they can get pretty loud
a

[Rabid Cougar]

I only skimmed through the thread but since it is about bands I'll add this whether it fits or not.

At the Allen vs. Desoto game Saturday Allen's band got a warning over the PA system for playing
while the Desoto QB was trying to call plays at the LOS. Who knew this was even a rule? Well,
it kind of backfired too because it pissed the Allen fans off. So, after they stopped booing, they
got loud and Desoto got penalized for false starts on two of the next three plays lol.

Same for NCAA. Bands cannot play when teams are at line of scrimmage.

In the old days they could even penalize the fans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NUxFE2oJ-M

[Rabid Cougar]

Now I will say that I would like to see some more inspiring upbeat music regularly played sometimes--I went to see the Marine Corps Band perform several times, and if there was anyone who was not proud and excited when they marched and played "Semper Fi" or "The Washington Post March"-- they didn't have a pulse. Also, anyone who is not excited when the announcer at Kyle Field says over the PA---"Now forming at the North End of Kyle Field...the nationally famous Fightin' Aggie Band" and they proceed down the field to the "Aggie War Hymn" is devoid of emotions and appreciation of excellence.

I totally agree about true marching bands and martial music. The "One Act Play on a Football Field", not sure what to think of it.

[Sweetwater Red]

Same for NCAA. Bands cannot play when teams are at line of scrimmage.

In the old days they could even penalize the fans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NUxFE2oJ-M

I had no idea. I guess with bands like Allen's the rule is necessary though.

Our band is so small that if you're standing on the opposite end of Mustang Bowl
you can't hear them playing the national anthem.

[toddg]

9 times out of 10 they dont know what is going on in the game. They play and do the exact same thing at the same time every game regardless of the circumstances on the field.

If I was a football coach I would envoke the UIL rule stating the bands cannot play during the game period.envoking that rule would most likely end that coaches tenure pretty quick..probably why it never happens

[BwdLion73]

Bands aside at the Celina / Monahans game a Bobcat cheerleader was equipped with a Bullhorn. For some reason she seemed fixated on the guy with a Maroon Brownwood Lion shirt on sitting in a sea of Orange! By the third quarter I had the cheers down pretty good. :cool:

[pirate4state]

All bands do is interfere with half time warm ups...
http://bbs.texasdownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?5294-I-have-a-COMPLAINT-on-the-LH-football-players&highlight=complaint

ahhhh, the good old days!

[STUDMYSTRO]

The Stephenville band has a tradition of playing the same songs and routine when it comes down to the playoffs.

[44INAROW]

ahhhh, the good old days!

Golden thread Jason......... those were the good ole days :cool: My boss would stand behind me and read 3adownlow threads for hours lol

Back to the topic.
When I was in school (back in the dark ages of 1973-1976 - Nat Alewine (longtime band director - may he rest in peace) had the Gobbler Band play Wabash Cannonball - Everytime we were driving AND scored - they played the song alot.. We had a pretty snazzy high kick routine to it too. Some of you 'old guys" might remember... Anyway - the last couple band directors here have tried to revive it - but it hasn't caught on :(

[Ranger354]

Being a Parent of a Band member and a Sports Booster Member I used to always find myself biting my tongue while in meetings, while in the stands, or just out in public when some "FootBall" parent or just the general public bashes the band. My son spent 6 years in the band 2 in Junior high and 4 in high school. He is NOT the band director and has NO impute as to WHAT songs are being played or WHEN they are played. Or that some times the band is playing when the announcer is talking and you can not hear the announcer because the PA system is junk in a multi million dollar sports complex.

There are times when a song is Played to Death.... Sinton used to play We Got The Beat until it was just crazy and for about 20 years it seems. Some one mentioned Sheet Music costs and I don't actually know what it cost, but when I asked my son why they played to same tunes over and over year in and year out, he said that the director said sheet music cost too much to update every year. Maybe that is a STANDARD director excuse...

Sinton also plays Music at home during different times at the game and there are some who like it and some that don't. I think it is a great motivational tool for the players. I for one never saw a Sinton team get fired up over We Got The Beat..... But put on some AC/DC and things change. I think if the band was a little more current with the music it would be better, but once again I am not the director and I don't remember going to any Marching contests when any school played AC/DC. lol There is a time and a place for the music as well.

I have seen Drum Lines from bands stand on the sideline when the opposing team had the ball and play. Does this not fit the excessive noise rule???

From some of the posts on here it seems to me like Sinton is NOT alone in the fact that we hear the same songs year after year. And if you think about it a Football Coach doesn't change his offense every year. He finds one that fits his personnel and stays with it. Oh, he may tweak it from time to time, but it is still for the most part the same offense.

I am just glad We Got The Beat is not on the Sinton Band playlist anymore.

Safe travels to everyone this Holiday Weekend... And thanks to all you parents that have kids in Sports and or the Band. With out them us old folks would have nothing to talk about on a Monday..... lol

GATA PIRATES!!!!
GO BAND!!!!!

[Deuce]

I had no idea. I guess with bands like Allen's the rule is necessary though.

Our band is so small that if you're standing on the opposite end of Mustang Bowl
you can't hear them playing the national anthem.

Graham got penalized twice a few years ago when we played Snyder because the band was playing so loud during the game when Snyder had the ball!

[Gobbler Fan]

Our band is entertaining this year. Had some Enter Sandman playing at halftime last friday... electric guitar,bass, drum set and vocals then the rest of the band joined in for some headbanging it was pretty cool pretty cool to see them having fun. Cudos to the new band director.

[zebrablue2]

Again I have no problem with the band I would just like to hear some new songs. I know in schools like Prosper the band director gets the ax if they are not playing new music and at a high level.


ROFL-- I like a big drum section myself. Maybe you should follow the Prosper team:) or band:)))

[Tejastrue]

Good post Ranger354. How about those early morning and evening practice sessions and late night Friday football games only to return to the school at the crack of dawn on Saturday morning to travel for the competitions.

Sorry Rabid...I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I get a little testy when it is suggested to eliminate bands completely from the game. It's all about the atmosphere for me. I always love to hear the fight song as the team runs out onto the field. Nothing like it in sports under Friday night lights and I know first hand through my own as to what the band kids go through just to be a part of it all.

[JVDAD]

I just wish ours played MORE any old song will do! PS: one in band now and one that spent 3 hrs in HS band.

[bobcat1]

Okay so I've noticed over the last few years Celina's band plays the same songs every single game and have played the same songs for at least the last 4 years. Is this common because I would think you would play all kinds of different songs?They're just time fillers so adjustments can be made and a little hydration and bathroom time.

[Rabid Cougar]

envoking that rule would most likely end that coaches tenure pretty quick..probably why it never happens

I have refed two games this year that the coach envoked it. The opponent just shrugs and says "WTH?" "Sorry coach got to shut them down when the opponent has the ball."

[Rabid Cougar]

Good post Ranger354. How about those early morning and evening practice sessions and late night Friday football games only to return to the school at the crack of dawn on Saturday morning to travel for the competitions.

Sorry Rabid...I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I get a little testy when it is suggested to eliminate bands completely from the game. It's all about the atmosphere for me. I always love to hear the fight song as the team runs out onto the field. Nothing like it in sports under Friday night lights and I know first hand through my own as to what the band kids go through just to be a part of it all.

Dont want them taken out of the game. I want them to be a part of the game. Not over in the stands oblivious as to what's going on in the game, as most band I have seen are.

[orange machine]

ROFL-- I like a big drum section myself. Maybe you should follow the Prosper team:) or band:)))

Not sure what this means but for some reason I'm laughing.

[Tejastrue]

Dont want them taken out of the game. I want them to be a part of the game. Not over in the stands oblivious as to what's going on in the game, as most band I have seen are.

That is what you get with nerdy kids...maybe I am wrong but I think most band members care about what's going on.. at least here in Wimberley. It was just a couple of years ago we had a varsity fb player (a darn good one) also march at halftime with the band.

[BwdLion73]

I just wish ours played MORE any old song will do! PS: one in band now and one that spent 3 hrs in HS band.

3 hours?? sounds like my football career. :)

[JVDAD]

Funny, it seemed so much longer at the time.

[panfan]

ahhhh, the good old days!

That thread was hilarious. Notice who it starts from? Yep the calf puppies. I heard tell that if we meet up with them this year, they are gonna send their band onto the field in the fourth quarter as the 12th man.

[GreenMonster]

Okay so I've noticed over the last few years Celina's band plays the same songs every single game and have played the same songs for at least the last 4 years. Is this common because I would think you would play all kinds of different songs?

I bet the football team has run basically the same plays every game over the past 4 years as well :smoker:

[Rabid Cougar]

That thread was hilarious. Notice who it starts from? Yep the calf puppies. I heard tell that if we meet up with them this year, they are gonna send their band onto the field in the fourth quarter as the 12th man.

They cannot be "the 12th Man" nor can you use the phrase "the 12th Man" . Registered Trademark of Texas A&M University.

[Ranger354]

Good post Ranger354. How about those early morning and evening practice sessions and late night Friday football games only to return to the school at the crack of dawn on Saturday morning to travel for the competitions.

I live about five blocks south of the High School and you know Fall is in the air when you hear the band practicing at 8am and there is a cool north breeze blowing.

As far as the Band Members knowing what is going on during the game, I know my son did as did most of the band.

I for one wish our whole side of the stadium would participate more as a group. I think is was either West Columbia or Sweeny that Sinton played and their entire side was in tune and chanting together as one. Talk about Intimidating. That Chant is better then any Band or Electronic Music....

If I just get Maroon Man to show up!!!!

[HJ2012]

The bands will never be removed. If you ask the bands, they'll tell you Friday nights aren't about football. They just let the teams come and play before and after their outdoor concerts. They are just as entitled to play their instruments as the football players are to play the game. As far as band members not knowing what's going on? I've been an avid football fan for a long time and played growing up. I was the drum major of my band when I was in high school and I know for a fact that I knew everything that was happening on the field. We always played when the other team had the ball, as this was a part of the game. You don't play when you're team has the ball so that they can call their plays in. If you have a bigger band that can rattle the others, that should be just another advantage. Trying to tell a band to be quiet is like trying to tell the crowd that they can't cheer. Those kids work just as hard, if not harder than the football players - I know because I've done both. Any disrespect is due to ignorance. As far as the same music, it took me and my co drum major arranging our own versions of popular music with the help of an assistant director in order to get something different to play in the stands. Now they play all kind of stuff, and they seem to all enjoy it. Regardless, don't think the kids in the band are stupid and don't know what's going on on the field because they do.

[Ragin Red]

They stole Grahams best clarinet player :)

Now that's funny:spitlol::clap: