El Campo 11-1 vs. Navasota 12-0

[Scoop27]

Who wins this great matchup
7 p.m. Friday at Morehead Stadium in Conroe

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El Campo vs Navasota
Friday, November 28
7p, Buddy Moorhead Stadium, Conroe
Navasota is home

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El Campo Ricebirds (11-1)

Gregory Portland 41-19
Fort Bend Willowridge 49-7
Tomball Memorial 28-10
Wharton (L) 28-24
St. Pius X 38-22
Needville 51-0
Stafford 36-30
Bay City 34-0
Brazosport 45-20
West Columbia 48-20

Houston Furr 49-6
Carthage 28-21


Navasota Rattlers (12-0)

Neuvo Leon, MX 62-0
Yates 66-13
Coldspring Oakhurt 35-14
Rogers Heritage, AR 49-10
FW Castleberry 56-3
Sterling 87-12
Sealy 65-6
Furr 85-0
Wheatley 56-0
Washington 77-0

Needville 55-15
Chapel Hill 49-28

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Common Opponents

Houston Furr

Navasota 85-Furr 0
El Campo 49-Furr 6

Needville

Navasota 55-Needville 15
El Campo 51-Needville 0

[Leopardfan201]

Give me Navasota 47/30

[Leopardfan201]

Navasota by 17

[regaleagle]

BIGTIME game for bigtime programs. I have Navasota winning this in my bracket, so I reckon I'll be a Sota fan in this one. :D

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Looks like we have 3 different threads for this game.

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3 threads worthy, lol

[Leopardfan201]

No one beating Navasota but maybe argyle

[bansheefan03]

Have a feeling this game may end up like state game in 2012

[Scoop27]

Webcasts
www.kulpradio.com
http://navasotanews.com/

[Weebe]

Navasota by 17

Are you as sure about this as you were about the Carthage/El Campo game?

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Looks like we have 3 different threads for this game.

Two of the threads were started at 8:32 and the other at 8:33. LOL Wierd

[cowboyandchrist]

The Rice Birds are a very good football team, but they will have to throw the ball 15 to 20 times to keep the Navasota defense from loading up box. Navasota can stop the run, it will not be a team full of freshmen, sophomores, and juniors like Carthage had trying to stop the 230 lb manster. If they can't pass I don't believe they can beat the Rattlers. The Rattlers appear to be able to run or pass and have a great defense.
The Rice Birds play hard nose football and Navasota will have to be at their best in order to beat them. This has the makings of a good ball game, I say the Rattlers 35 and Rice Birds 24.

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Two of the threads were started at 8:32 and the other at 8:33. LOL Wierd

I guess that as soon as everyone got word of the location, we all wanted to share the news.

[Saggy Aggie]

Rattlers by 21

[region4fan]

Good en here

[garciap77]

Rattlers!:2thumbsup

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Still not able to combine the threads?

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It's really quiet. Where is everyone?

[Scoop27]

I'm sure this thread will heat up as the week goes by

[panfan]

Just a hunch, but I think the Rice birds win over the Rattlers. call me crazy.

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Just a hunch, but I think the Rice birds win over the Rattlers. call me crazy.

Wishfull thinking. If the Ricebirds can't stop the pass it won't be close.

[jason]

This turns into a repeat of 2012 state title game...Navasota BIG......

[bird_fan]

Ricebirds shock the Rattlers!!! yes Im a homer

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Ricebirds shock the Rattlers!!! yes Im a homer

As you should be, there's no reason for you to think otherwise. Plus, if El Campo wins, I don't think that it would be that much of a shocker.

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Wishfull thinking. If the Ricebirds can't stop the pass it won't be close.

The Birds have 21 interceptions this year. Of course that wasn't against Navasota caliber teams. But then the Rattlers gaudy numbers aren't all against El Campo caliber teams either. The Birds only chance is to play a mistake free game. No penalties, no fumbles and they pull off the upset. That's an awful lot to ask for against a team like Navasota.

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The Birds have 21 interceptions this year. Of course that wasn't against Navasota caliber teams. But then the Rattlers gaudy numbers aren't all against El Campo caliber teams either. The Birds only chance is to play a mistake free game. No penalties, no fumbles and they pull off the upset. That's an awful lot to ask for against a team like Navasota.

Anything is possible. The Rattlers better come ready to play.

[Weebe]

The Birds have 21 interceptions this year. Of course that wasn't against Navasota caliber teams. But then the Rattlers gaudy numbers aren't all against El Campo caliber teams either. The Birds only chance is to play a mistake free game. No penalties, no fumbles and they pull off the upset. That's an awful lot to ask for against a team like Navasota.

Agree

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The Birds have 21 interceptions this year. Of course that wasn't against Navasota caliber teams. But then the Rattlers gaudy numbers aren't all against El Campo caliber teams either. The Birds only chance is to play a mistake free game. No penalties, no fumbles and they pull off the upset. That's an awful lot to ask for against a team like Navasota.

And, the opportunity to intercept the pass is very minimum when the receiver is 5-10 yards ahead of the defender.

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And, the opportunity to intercept the pass is very minimum when the receiver is 5-10 yards ahead of the defender.

I wouldn't know.

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I wouldn't know.

You will soon find out on Friday. Good Luck.

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You will soon find out on Friday. Good Luck.

How you gonna stop Dove?

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How you gonna stop Dove?

The Rattler Defense.

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The Rattler Defense.

That would be a first this year.

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That would be a first this year.

HMMMM.

I really don't think that any defense will "Stop" Dove. Slow him down, yes. The bigger question is how will El Campo stop Navasota's offense?

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HMMMM.

I really don't think that any defense will "Stop" Dove. Slow him down, yes. The bigger question is how will El Campo stop Navasota's offense?

That's top secret. Even I haven't been told.

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That's top secret. Even I haven't been told.

LOL. I think that this is our first ever meeting. Do you know for sure?

[WhartonTigers]

That would be a first this year.
You mean a second.....

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You mean a second.....

No, I mean first just like I said.

[Saggy Aggie]

no, i mean first just like i said.

lol...

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LOL. I think that this is our first ever meeting. Do you know for sure?

Yep , the first ever. Brenham (25 times) is the only team from your area we've ever played as far as I can tell. Some folks around here are finally learning that Navasota isn't somewhere between Nova Scotia and Minnesota like they thought. Not all Bird fans are as well traveled as I am.

[Starlinmarlin]

I would call 19 carries for 149 yards (7.84 per attempt) contained but definately not stopped.

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I would call 19 carries for 149 yards (7.84 per attempt) contained but definately not stopped.

Yea and he probably had more than 50 yards erased by all the procedure penalties in that game.

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Yep , the first ever. Brenham (25 times) is the only team from your area we've ever played as far as I can tell. Some folks around here are finally learning that Navasota isn't somewhere between Nova Scotia and Minnesota like they thought. Not all Bird fans are as well traveled as I am.

Yeah, I remember that Brenham played you guys a lot when I was growing up.

[Dawgs]

I know it's hard to compare common opponents but by looking at the CH game only, I would have assume that Carthage's D is better than Navasotas'. And I would also have to assume that Sota's O is way better. Carthage was able to contain the edges on EC, and was able to put them in 3-4 3rd and long situations. Although they did have a couple of long passes on us the Ricebirds just look out of place throwing the ball. I do think the Ricebirds will move the ball, but I don't know if it will be enough. The question will be can EC undersized D get stops? I don't think they can against a team as athletic and with as many weapons as Sota. I have respect for both programs, but as others have said I see it playing out just like the 2012 state game. Maybe worse. EC is not as good as they were in 2012. Now it's time for Sota to prove they are that elite team this year. State championship caliber.

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I know it's hard to compare common opponents but by looking at the CH game only, I would have assume that Carthage's D is better than Navasotas'. And I would also have to assume that Sota's O is way better. Carthage was able to contain the edges on EC, and was able to put them in 3-4 3rd and long situations. Although they did have a couple of long passes on us the Ricebirds just look out of place throwing the ball. I do think the Ricebirds will move the ball, but I don't know if it will be enough. The question will be can EC undersized D get stops? I don't think they can against a team as athletic and with as many weapons as Sota. I have respect for both programs, but as others have said I see it playing out just like the 2012 state game. Maybe worse. EC is not as good as they were in 2012. Now it's time for Sota to prove they are that elite team this year. State championship caliber.

Chapel Hill not having their starting QB against Carthage makes a big difference. Also, two of those touchdown were passes to the tightend. More of a coverage issue. Navasota shut down Chapel Hill in the second half.

For what it is worth, we can't have a repeat performance like we saw against CHILL in the first half. We will have to come out and force the Birds to punt early and often. Navasota will score points. We will only stop ourselves from doing so with penalties and turnovers.

[OldBison75]

Chapel Hill not having their starting QB against Carthage makes a big difference. Also, two of those touchdown were passes to the tightend. More of a coverage issue. Navasota shut down Chapel Hill in the second half.

For what it is worth, we can't have a repeat performance like we saw against CHILL in the first half. We will have to come out and force the Birds to punt early and often. Navasota will score points. We will only stop ourselves from doing so with penalties and turnovers.

Hemo, I agree with you on the repeat of the first half.

Navasota had a horrible first half passing especially. Eppler appeared to be so hyped that a lot of passing were high and resulted in tipped balls and dropped passes. Dickson dropped two passes he would normally catch. The passing game was just not working in the first half. Defensively the Rattlers seemed to be a step behind all of the first half. Bledsoe made the yards a lot of times with little resistance until he was 7 or eight yards downfield.

Then, the second half was totally the opposite. The Rattler offense was wide open and everything clicked. Defensively they controlled the line and suddenly the Chapel Hill running game was under control.

The overall game was a tale of two halves, but, don't forget that Navasota held Chapel Hill to over 120 yards below their per game average and the Rattlers still put up 582 total yards of offense even with a horrible first half.

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Hemo, I agree with you on the repeat of the first half.

Navasota had a horrible first half passing especially. Eppler appeared to be so hyped that a lot of passing were high and resulted in tipped balls and dropped passes. Dickson dropped two passes he would normally catch. The passing game was just not working in the first half. Defensively the Rattlers seemed to be a step behind all of the first half. Bledsoe made the yards a lot of times with little resistance until he was 7 or eight yards downfield.

Then, the second half was totally the opposite. The Rattler offense was wide open and everything clicked. Defensively they controlled the line and suddenly the Chapel Hill running game was under control.

The overall game was a tale of two halves, but, don't forget that Navasota held Chapel Hill to over 120 yards below their per game average and the Rattlers still put up 582 total yards of offense even with a horrible first half.

Yes, it definitey was a terrible first half. By my account, we should have had at least 14 points by the end of the 1st quarter.

[OldBison75]

WOW, I can't believe there is no more talk about this game!!!!!

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WOW, I can't believe there is no more talk about this game!!!!!

WOW, I was just thinking the same thing... I get home from an evening out, and what do I find? Nothing.

[Weebe]

WOW, I was just thinking the same thing... I get home from an evening out, and what do I find? Nothing.

I think the El Campo fans on here are being respectful in not talking trash about a team that should be favored to beat them.

There are fans of other teams on this website that should probably follow that lead.

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I think the El Campo fans on here are being respectful in not talking trash about a team that should be favored to beat them.

There are fans of other teams on this website that should probably follow that lead.

We can't even crow about the coin toss.

[OldBison75]

Weebe, I respect that, but I thought there would be more back and forth about the good things and bad things that each fan base had to say about two really good teams that are this far into the playoffs. I can tell you that the Rattlers have been on both sides of these type games before and you just hope that when it is over both teams can hold their heads up because they gave their all. I am a Rattler fan from way, way back even though I did not graduate there. I can assure you that no matter how good we think we are, we have eaten enough humble pie thanks to teams like Liberty Hill, Chapel Hill, and Gilmer that we know that any team can win at this level of competition. I wish your team good luck and honestly hope this game is a reflection of both of our seasons.

With that said, I am piking the Rattlers by 14 because they are my team and I believe they can make enough defensive stops to outscore the Ricebirds.

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Weebe, I respect that, but I thought there would be more back and forth about the good things and bad things that each fan base had to say about two really good teams that are this far into the playoffs. I can tell you that the Rattlers have been on both sides of these type games before and you just hope that when it is over both teams can hold their heads up because they gave their all. I am a Rattler fan from way, way back even though I did not graduate there. I can assure you that no matter how good we think we are, we have eaten enough humble pie thanks to teams like Liberty Hill, Chapel Hill, and Gilmer that we know that any team can win at this level of competition. I wish your team good luck and honestly hope this game is a reflection of both of our seasons.

With that said, I am piking the Rattlers by 14 because they are my team and I believe they can make enough defensive stops to outscore the Ricebirds.

Lets start with the bad things (weaknesses) about Navasota. What are they?

[OldBison75]

Navasota has sometimes had early problems adjusting the run defense, especially on teams that mix up the running game a lot. However, the opposition better take advantage of it early or they will find that the Navasota coaches make adjustments on the run and usually get it right pretty quick. Other than that they have very few weaknesses. They bend some on defense but don't allow very many big plays. The longest they have allowed all year was a 42 yard run against Chapel Hill. Before that there had only been three plays over 20 yards against them all season.

[Aggie98]

Based on last weeks games, I don't think either one of these teams are on the same level as they were in '12. But, I think Navasota is significantly closer. I'll take the Rattler's by 21. Also believe that an Argyle/Sota title game is imminent.


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Based on last weeks games, I don't think either one of these teams are on the same level as they were in '12. But, I think Navasota is significantly closer. I'll take the Rattler's by 21. Also believe that an Argyle/Sota title game is imminent.


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I can agree with the assessment of comparing us to 2012. That 2012 team was special. This year's team will have to write their own script. Hopefully it was be as entertaining and special as 2012.

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Navasota has sometimes had early problems adjusting the run defense, especially on teams that mix up the running game a lot. However, the opposition better take advantage of it early or they will find that the Navasota coaches make adjustments on the run and usually get it right pretty quick. Other than that they have very few weaknesses. They bend some on defense but don't allow very many big plays. The longest they have allowed all year was a 42 yard run against Chapel Hill. Before that there had only been three plays over 20 yards against them all season.

I agree. Navasota has made the needed adjustments during half time. The second halves versus Coldspring and Chapel Hill are the two games that come to mind. The game versus the Trojans, we were tied up at 14 all. We won the game 35-14. Navasota held Coldspring to less than 100 yards the second half. Of course, a pouring rain didn't help in the first half either. In the Chapel Hill game, they were able to get their yardage. Most coming in the first half. Of course in that game, we outscored them 35-7 in the second half.

[Weebe]

When El Campo has played close games this year, it's been due to penalties and turnovers. A 10 yard holding penalty can really hurt an offense that relies on the running game.

The run defense is not as good as it was in 2012 but the pass defense is better. But, we haven't played anyone that can pass like Navasota.

Our backs are better than 2012 but the OL is not as dominant. But, El Campo will score points. As speedbump said, no one has slowed Dove down all year.

I think the key to El Campo having a shot is whether secondary can slow down the Navasota offense enough to allow the offense to wear Navasota down.

El Campo doesn't do well in shootouts(see 2012 SC game).

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What I like about El Campo fans.. You give a honest, fair assessment. Most, being Homers, will give some wild prediction or even go as far as to say that their team will do something that they haven't been able to do all season. You are a real class act. Good luck to both teams and safe travels. Btw, happy Thanksgiving to you all and your families.

[Dawgs]

I think the El Campo fans on here are being respectful in not talking trash about a team that should be favored to beat them.

There are fans of other teams on this website that should probably follow that lead.

If every body did that it wouldn't be much of a HS sports forum. You El Campo guys are too serious. No fun at all.

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If every body did that it wouldn't be much of a HS sports forum. You El Campo guys are too serious. No fun at all.

It's been fun beating Carthage.

[Dawgs]

It's been fun beating Carthage.

Hahaha. I've left both games thinking Carthage was far superior. Y'all have our number. What can I say. Y'all have proven on the field. But we got the trophy case full, so I guess we get the last laugh.

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Hahaha. I've left both games thinking Carthage was far superior. Y'all have our number. What can I say. Y'all have proven on the field. But we got the trophy case full, so I guess we get the last laugh.

Maybe you should teach those trophies to block an tackle.

[Dawgs]

Maybe you should teach those trophies to block an tackle.

That was a good one. Maybe y'all should have your boys pull back from the buffet and y'all would have a chance against top tier teams. Sota 65 EC 30. Y'all saved us another butt kicking. Appreciate it.

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That was a good one. Maybe y'all should have your boys pull back from the buffet and y'all would have a chance against top tier teams. Sota 65 EC 30. Y'all saved us another butt kicking. Appreciate it.

Ours will stop eating when yours find a barber shop.

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:1popcorn:

[Dawgs]

Ours will stop eating when yours find a barber shop.

Hahaha. Ok I will have to agree. Them boys need a barbershop!!

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Navasota Rattlers vs. El Campo Ricebirds

4A Division I regional

Buddy Moorhead Stadium, Conroe — 7 p.m.

Head coaches: Navasota — Lee Fedora; El Campo — Bob Gillis

Records: Navasota 12-0 (5-0 in 11-4A Division I); El Campo 11-1 (5-0 in 12-4A Division I)

Last year’s meeting: The teams did not play one another

Last week’s games: Navasota 49, Tyler Chapel Hill 28; El Campo 28, Carthage 21

Streaks: Navasota 12 wins; El Campo 8 wins

Radio: 1550 AM KWBC

Harris Ratings pick: Navasota by 14 points

Next: The winner will face Henderson (10-2) or Jasper (9-3), who play at 2 p.m. Saturday at Lufkin

[YTBulldogs]

'Sota in a romp.

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Navasota Rattlers vs. El Campo Ricebirds

4A Division I regional

Buddy Moorhead Stadium, Conroe — 7 p.m.

Head coaches: Navasota — Lee Fedora; El Campo — Bob Gillis

Records: Navasota 12-0 (5-0 in 11-4A Division I); El Campo 11-1 (5-0 in 12-4A Division I)

Last year’s meeting: The teams did not play one another

Last week’s games: Navasota 49, Tyler Chapel Hill 28; El Campo 28, Carthage 21

Streaks: Navasota 12 wins; El Campo 8 wins

Radio: 1550 AM KWBC

Harris Ratings pick: Navasota by 14 points

Next: The winner will face Henderson (10-2) or Jasper (9-3), who play at 2 p.m. Saturday at Lufkin

Is that a hint? LOL

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Is that a hint? LOL

No, that's the line from www.brazossports.com
See Brazos Valley Football Capsules

[WhartonTigers]

I dont see el campo secondary keeping up with those explosive wr's from Navasota...Qb will be the best they have seen all year....Navasota by 21

[Weebe]

El Campo getting hammered. We will always get dominated by efficient passing teams until our coaches make defending the pass a priority.

We don't see it in practice because of our offensive system and we don't really compete in 7 on 7.

[Roughneck93]

http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/article/Dickson-carries-Navasota-past-El-Campo-and-into-5923903.php

[YTBulldogs]

Hooping it up now speedbump?

[bird_fan]

Way too much speed on the Rattler team. this could be th best team in Texas Good Luck the next few weeks Bring home a championship

[hookandladder]

'Sota in a romp.

Looks like you nailed it, that's a lot of points to give up. Navasota way to much for them birds, thump , thump time.

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What I like about El Campo fans.. You give a honest, fair assessment. Most, being Homers, will give some wild prediction or even go as far as to say that their team will do something that they haven't been able to do all season. You are a real class act. Good luck to both teams and safe travels. Btw, happy Thanksgiving to you all and your families.

That's one heck of a football team you got over there. After the game the Rattler players were shoulder to shoulder with the Birds while they played the EC school song. When two class acts get together you get more than just a great game. The Birds will be as good or better running the ball next year and they will start working on a new pass defense today. Hope to see you next year with a different result. It ill make me feel better if I can say we were sent home by the state champions so go get it done.

[bird_fan]

That's one heck of a football team you got over there. After the game the Rattler players were shoulder to shoulder with the Birds while they played the EC school song. When two class acts get together you get more than just a great game. The Birds will be as good or better running the ball next year and they will start working on a new pass defense today. Hope to see you next year with a different result. It ill make me feel better if I can say we were sent home by the state champions so go get it done.

Im still PROUD of the Ricebirds. We were outgunned but never gave up and played hard till the end and not many have been able to put up 400 yard of offense oe 36 point on Navasota I for one am proud of our effort. Hope the Rattlers win State!
http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/scoreboard/?site=default&mkt=houston&Season=2014&tpl=Boxscore&Sport=1&ID=227167&TeamID=169&SearchType=Teamshttp://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/scoreboard/?site=default&mkt=houston&Season=2014&tpl=Boxscore&Sport=1&ID=227167&TeamID=169&SearchType=Teams

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Hey you guys are a class act. I tell you, hearing the Ricebird crowd ROAR on that 4th quarter play where the back was ruled down before losing the ball was awesome. That's the loudest that I've heard a crowd by far this year.

Dove, that kid is something special. I didn't realize that he was a junior. Welp, We have one more year to deal with that kid. :(

Thanks for making us sweat late in the 4th as we hung on to an 11 point lead.

Good luck and I'm sure that we will see the Ricebirds again very soon.