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Roughneck93
11-18-2014, 06:36 PM
BCISD Official Press Release 11/17/14

Dan Burk will not return as Athletic Director / Head Football Coach at Bay City High School. Burk and the District acknowledge that it is in the best interest of both parties to enter into this Agreement. The district will conduct a comprehensive search for his replacement.

http://baycitytribune.com/news/article_4f6f03b8-6f30-11e4-8312-83a19bfda1ba.html

SHSBulldog00
11-18-2014, 06:41 PM
The troubles in Bay City are deeper than just the AD. Hopefully the new AD/HC can turn things around.

YTBulldogs
11-18-2014, 07:22 PM
Thank goodness. Coach Burk, your free from that nightmare and best wishes to you and your family.

Scoop27
11-18-2014, 07:29 PM
Doubt a replacement can turn things around in a hurry

Dawgfan64
11-18-2014, 07:35 PM
Coach Burk is an outstanding coach...I feel very sorry for anyone taking over that program. If Coach Burk had no luck turning things around then it won't happen anytime soon.

Dogs_21
11-18-2014, 07:51 PM
I think it is a great move for Bay City. Heard a lot of bad things about him over at Bay City.

speedbump
11-18-2014, 11:40 PM
Bay City is trying to stay a step ahead of Sealy but Sealy may be gaining ground.

speedbump
11-18-2014, 11:46 PM
Doubt a replacement can turn things around in a hurry

They should give Tim Finn a call.

wedo
11-19-2014, 11:24 AM
I don't think Bay City is fixable. They do have athletes , but the problem lies more within the school district than the athletic department. I know people that work in the BCISD and the discipline is awful, Especially in the JRH. Because of this problem Burk couldn't get coaches to stay there. It seemed in his 3 years there they had big turnover in coaches. Was it his fault? Probably not, the number of quality coaches that want to live/work in BC is not many. In 9 years Bay City has gone from a #1 ranking in class 4a (in 2005 now 5a) to not being able to win a single district game in the new 4a (3a).

rb585
11-19-2014, 11:33 AM
Coach Burk is an outstanding coach...I feel very sorry for anyone taking over that program. If Coach Burk had no luck turning things around then it won't happen anytime soon.

Come on, he went 1-29, and all 29 of those losses were by double digits. Even if there are systemic problems, there's no way you can defend that record at Bay City.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 12:08 PM
Come on, he went 1-29, and all 29 of those losses were by double digits. Even if there are systemic problems, there's no way you can defend that record at Bay City.

Come on rb, same man ya'll hired back in the day.

At Wimberley he was 27-9 , 23-3 the last 2 years and quarter finalists. Also, had the first undefeated regular season in Wimberley history in 2000. Brought ya'll turf too.

Think he forgot how to coach?


We hired him too, and he brought our weight program up to modern times. Great coach.

HEMOTOXIC
11-19-2014, 12:13 PM
Come on, he went 1-29, and all 29 of those losses were by double digits. Even if there are systemic problems, there's no way you can defend that record at Bay City.

Coach Burke was at Navasota. He did a good job. Not as good of a job as Fedora...:cool:

Dogs_21
11-19-2014, 12:59 PM
All the good athletes either move out of Bay City before they reach high shool or they quit because they didn't like the program. Their numbers are terrible and numbers don't lie. You don't have the same type of kids in Bay City as you did from back in the day but there are still some around they just don't want to play for Burk.

HEMOTOXIC
11-19-2014, 01:43 PM
All the good athletes either move out of Bay City before they reach high shool or they quit because they didn't like the program. Their numbers are terrible and numbers don't lie. You don't have the same type of kids in Bay City as you did from back in the day but there are still some around they just don't want to play for Burk.

The issues started long before Burk. Correct me if I'm wrong but Burk has only been at BC since 2011? 2012?

Nevermind, I answered my own question. Burk got there in 2012.

rb585
11-19-2014, 01:46 PM
Come on rb, same man ya'll hired back in the day.

At Wimberley he was 27-9 , 23-3 the last 2 years and quarter finalists. Also, had the first undefeated regular season in Wimberley history in 2000. Brought ya'll turf too.

Think he forgot how to coach?


Believe it or not, that does happen. Kids in 2014 are different than kids in 2000. I know, because I deal with them on my job. If I hadn't changed, I'd be terrible at my job.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 01:52 PM
Believe it or not, that does happen. Kids in 2014 are different than kids in 2000. I know, because I deal with them on my job. If I hadn't changed, I'd be terrible at my job.

Whatever. Ain't like he runs the bone. He coaches the same modern day stuff as most schools do. Has to be more to this, than a coach who can't coach. Proven track record speaks for itself. Just glad that situation is over for Dan in Bay City.

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 02:09 PM
Whatever. Ain't like he runs the bone. He coaches the same modern day stuff as most schools do. Has to be more to this, than a coach who can't coach. Proven track record speaks for itself. Just glad that situation is over for Dan in Bay City.

When you go back and do a little research, it shows a much different record that was was mentioned earlier. I do know that the internet can be wrong, but when multiple sources have the same info....I tend to believe it.

Records also show that he has had more winless (0-fer) seasons than winning records. Just saying.

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 02:13 PM
Come on rb, same man ya'll hired back in the day.

At Wimberley he was 27-9 , 23-3 the last 2 years.

They played 62 games in two years? Please don't tell me you are counting jv/freshman/junior high wins......

I saw him laying on the track during jv/fish/jh games in the Bay....I refuse to give any one credit for any win if they are laying down at any point during the contest.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 02:20 PM
They played 62 games in two years? Please don't tell me you are counting jv/freshman/junior high wins......

I saw him laying on the track during jv/fish/jh games in the Bay....I refuse to give any one credit for any win if they are laying down at any point during the contest.

Not sure of your math. I see maybe 26 games last 2 years under Burk. 36 total in his tenure.

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 02:22 PM
Not sure of your math. I see maybe 26 games last 2 years under Burk. 36 total in his tenure.

You said "27-9 , 23-3 " under Burk the last two years.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 02:23 PM
You said "27-9 , 23-3 " under Burk the last two years.

Yes, at Wimberley. As stated. 27-9 overall. 23-3 L2 years.

Scoop27
11-19-2014, 02:26 PM
http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2014/nov/18/bay-city-athletic-director-head-football-coach-res/

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 02:31 PM
I am hoping the next coach will focus on the student-athlete as a whole, and as a whole athletic program rather than worrying about how much a handful of football players can deadlift.

His workout program is good....for a powerlifter, O or D lineman. Other than that it leaves much to be desired.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 02:34 PM
I am hoping the next coach will focus on the student-athlete as a whole, and as a whole athletic program rather than worrying about how much a handful of football players can deadlift.

His workout program is good....for a powerlifter, O or D lineman. Other than that it leaves much to be desired.

Wish you well there coach.

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 02:36 PM
Thank you. If I was doing any better I would be twins.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 02:38 PM
Thank you. If I was doing any better I would be twins.

Throw you hat in the ring. Maybe your the one to change BC?

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 02:40 PM
Throw you hat in the ring. Maybe your the one to change BC?


I wouldn't leave where I am for many, if any, high school jobs in Texas. And ZERO of those jobs would include coaching fooseball. I paid my dues in that part of the world. I don't even want to drive through BC unless I am going duck hunting or fishing.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 02:43 PM
I don't even want to drive through BC unless I am going duck hunting or fishing.

Hear that!

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 02:48 PM
Hear that!


Going 1-19 when they were in the LCISD district is understandable. They didn't have a chance to compete at any sport except soccer.....and it showed. I really thought they could beat Brazoshood, Nerdville, and maybe Columbust (non-district). No idea why he put Kinkaid and St. Pius on the schedule. Word was a junior high coordinator told him 'they were sorry private schools"

sleepy_dragon7
11-19-2014, 03:13 PM
Whatever. Ain't like he runs the bone. He coaches the same modern day stuff as most schools do. Has to be more to this, than a coach who can't coach. Proven track record speaks for itself. Just glad that situation is over for Dan in Bay City.

What's the proven track record? (I don't know, I'm just asking... probably fixing to get crucified as his coaching ability seems to be a hot topic...)

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 03:15 PM
What's the proven track record? (I don't know, I'm just asking... probably fixing to get crucified as his coaching ability seems to be a hot topic...)

I am wondering the same thing sleepy...not bashing...just curious.

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 03:16 PM
Word was a junior high coordinator told him 'they were sorry private schools"

Maybe those JH teams were weak? So, JH coordinator was right. Heard they had a hard time getting worthy assistant coaches, or retaining them. So, this don't surprise me.

baseballcoach13
11-19-2014, 03:44 PM
Maybe those JH teams were weak? So, JH coordinator was right. Heard they had a hard time getting worthy assistant coaches, or retaining them. So, this don't surprise me.

I would agree with hard time retaining worth assistants. Seems to me several good coaches left and are successful at other places. From the outside looking in, the bad assistants were tagged as 'Burk's Boys"

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 03:54 PM
I would agree with hard time retaining worth assistants. Seems to me several good coaches left and are successful at other places. From the outside looking in, the bad assistants were tagged as 'Burk's Boys"

Could be, don't know that much detail, who's on staff and how they got there. Just glad it appears to be over for all involved.

Snotbubbles
11-19-2014, 04:05 PM
I heard Bay City Sup is in talks with a possible replacement. A Coach who has recent playoff experience and has been through what Bay City is going through.

Coach A.J. Sanders, current Houston Scarborough head coach was able to lead his Spartans into the playoffs with same 0-10 record as the Cats.

region4fan
11-19-2014, 05:20 PM
i heard bay city sup is in talks with a possible replacement. A coach who has recent playoff experience and has been through what bay city is going through.

Coach a.j. Sanders, current houston scarborough head coach was able to lead his spartans into the playoffs with same 0-10 record as the cats.
lmao

region4fan
11-19-2014, 05:22 PM
14 years as head coach, 65-84 overall. Before Bay City, 64-55. Results found in the Victoria Advocate.

Scoop27
11-19-2014, 05:27 PM
I covered the Black Cats for two season while working at the Bay City Tribune when Robert Blackmon was the head coach. Now he's at Van Vleck where he graduated from and the Leopards are enjoying a winning season with a possible shot of going the the regionals. While at Bay City he just didn't have at athletes to work with.

Snotbubbles
11-19-2014, 05:40 PM
From one of the elite sports programs in the state to a inner city like system. Kid's don't give a hoot, no discipline and it's a turd town on top of that. I recall Blackmon being excited going there, and he jumped out quick when he seen what was going down there. Least this coach gave it a try. Not sure, they can land Sanders (Houston Scartissue) as they are trying. If reports are right. Those two should schedule each other for all non-district games.

Dawgfan64
11-19-2014, 06:05 PM
14 years as head coach, 65-84 overall. Before Bay City, 64-55. Results found in the Victoria Advocate.

His record took some beating in Bay City

Dogs_21
11-19-2014, 06:48 PM
From one of the elite sports programs in the state to a inner city like system. Kid's don't give a hoot, no discipline and it's a turd town on top of that. I recall Blackmon being excited going there, and he jumped out quick when he seen what was going down there. Least this coach gave it a try. Not sure, they can land Sanders (Houston Scartissue) as they are trying. If reports are right. Those two should schedule each other for all non-district games.


If you knew the true story Blackmon was ran off by the Sup.

Matthew328
11-19-2014, 08:43 PM
Whoever said kids aren't the same in 2014 as in 2000 aint lying.....hear coaches tell me all the time how much different it is coaching now than just 5-10 yrs ago...only thing I can think of is social media...

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 09:21 PM
Whoever said kids aren't the same in 2014 as in 2000 aint lying.....hear coaches tell me all the time how much different it is coaching now than just 5-10 yrs ago...only thing I can think of is social media...

Parenting too. Much different in 14 years.

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 08:51 AM
Whoever said kids aren't the same in 2014 as in 2000 aint lying.....hear coaches tell me all the time how much different it is coaching now than just 5-10 yrs ago...only thing I can think of is social media...

Kids are different. Change is inevitable.

And yes, saying Blackmon got out is SLIGHTLY not true. lmao.

And about his record.....there are 10 wins in there that I cannot account for.

sleepy_dragon7
11-20-2014, 09:12 AM
Kids are different. Change is inevitable.

And yes, saying Blackmon got out is SLIGHTLY not true. lmao.

And about his record.....there are 10 wins in there that I cannot account for.

Probaboy from when he was at Ranger...

sleepy_dragon7
11-20-2014, 09:18 AM
Kids haven't changed over the years. The parents have.

"Our youth now love luxury. they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents; chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize teachers." - Socrates

pancho villa
11-20-2014, 09:37 AM
Kids are no better or worse than when I started coaching 34 years ago. I have coached many many young men and women in the last 10 years I am very proud of. They were a joy to coach and are very successful young men and women. Kids are still kids now days (sure they are little more spoiled (PHONES!) however a lot of you parents need to take a realistic look back to when you were young and things you did and how you acted.
Pancho believes children are a product of their parents

sleepy_dragon7
11-20-2014, 09:53 AM
Kids are no better or worse than when I started coaching 34 years ago. I have coached many many young men and women in the last 10 years I am very proud of. They were a joy to coach and are very successful young men and women. Kids are still kids now days (sure they are little more spoiled (PHONES!) however a lot of you parents need to take a realistic look back to when you were young and things you did and how you acted.
Pancho believes children are a product of their parents

Agree. I can remember a time very briefly at the beginning of my career where, if a kid would flunk a class the parent would be in the kids face screaming "what did you do???" Now it's the parent in MY face screaming "what did you do???"

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 09:59 AM
Agree. I can remember a time very briefly at the beginning of my career where, if a kid would flunk a class the parent would be in the kids face screaming "what did you do???" Now it's the parent in MY face screaming "what did you do???"



You old farts quit reminiscing and lets get back on topic...


I wish someone would write a book about Bay City the last ten years. Some of the stories I hear about that place are un-freaking-believable.

sleepy_dragon7
11-20-2014, 10:00 AM
You old farts quit reminiscing and lets get back on topic...


I wish someone would write a book about Bay City the last ten years. Some of the stories I hear about that place are un-freaking-believable.

Likewise

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 10:02 AM
Likewise

Chapter 14: The Stanksquatch

rb585
11-20-2014, 10:06 AM
Kids are no better or worse than when I started coaching 34 years ago.

I didn't say they were better or worse. I said they're different. And like it or not, a coach/teacher has to adjust to that to continue to be effective.

pancho villa
11-20-2014, 10:18 AM
I didn't say they were better or worse. I said they're different. And like it or not, a coach/teacher has to adjust to that to continue to be effective.

you are wrong

pancho villa
11-20-2014, 10:20 AM
You old farts quit reminiscing and lets get back on topic...


I wish someone would write a book about Bay City the last ten years. Some of the stories I hear about that place are un-freaking-believable.

Give us some stories rat killer!

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 10:24 AM
Give us some stories rat killer!

LMAO!!!! I have seen two of the largest, scariest, rats with the sharpest razor blade fangs in Brazoria County!! They were killers.

I heard they had a "coach" say once, "HEY ______, ITS THIRD DOWN AND LONG. THEY ARE EITHER GOING TO PASS OR RUN HERE"

pancho villa
11-20-2014, 10:39 AM
[QUOTE=baseballcoach13;1843120]LMAO!!!! I have seen two of the largest, scariest, rats with the sharpest razor blade fangs in Brazoria County!! They were killers.

I heard they had a "coach" say once, "HEY ______, ITS THIRD DOWN AND LONG. THEY ARE EITHER GOING TO PASS OR RUN HERE"[/QUOTE

Good thing you didn’t see the one terrorizing the field house a few weeks ago.
He was a good 10lb er.

pancho villa
11-20-2014, 10:40 AM
Pass, throw, run the screen, and watch for any trick plays.

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 10:49 AM
[QUOTE=baseballcoach13;1843120]LMAO!!!! I have seen two of the largest, scariest, rats with the sharpest razor blade fangs in Brazoria County!! They were killers.

I heard they had a "coach" say once, "HEY ______, ITS THIRD DOWN AND LONG. THEY ARE EITHER GOING TO PASS OR RUN HERE"[/QUOTE

Good thing you didn’t see the one terrorizing the field house a few weeks ago.
He was a good 10lb er.

I would have shat.

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 10:53 AM
Pass, throw, run the screen, and watch for any trick plays.


Getting blown out by a district opponent 40+ to 0 before halftime....

"I THINK YOUR MIKE BACKER IS GETTING BORED.....WE NEED TO BLITZ HIM RIGHT HERE"

pancho villa
11-20-2014, 10:56 AM
Getting blown out by a district opponent 40+ to 0 before halftime....

"I THINK YOUR MIKE BACKER IS GETTING BORED.....WE NEED TO BLITZ HIM RIGHT HERE"

Now that sounds like some good humor there

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 11:03 AM
Now that sounds like some good humor there

Saturday Morning- "Johnny wont be here. He just called and his grandmother passed away.

Next Saturday. "Johnny called in. HIs grandmother passed away last night.

Next Saturday. "Johnny called in again. His other grandmother passed away.

Next Saturday game Johnny comes off the field and makes a negative comment about head coach. He gets escorted to the locker room and is told he will never play another down or another sport.

Next Friday he gives the speech at the pep rally holding his kid.

GrTigers6
11-20-2014, 11:24 AM
Kids are different. Change is inevitable.

And yes, saying Blackmon got out is SLIGHTLY not true. lmao.

And about his record.....there are 10 wins in there that I cannot account for

Probaboy from when he was at Ranger...
Was he there 10 years?:D

Crow22
11-20-2014, 11:27 AM
Saturday Morning- "Johnny wont be here. He just called and his grandmother passed away.

Next Saturday. "Johnny called in. HIs grandmother passed away last night.

Next Saturday. "Johnny called in again. His other grandmother passed away.

Next Saturday game Johnny comes off the field and makes a negative comment about head coach. He gets escorted to the locker room and is told he will never play another down or another sport.

Next Friday he gives the speech at the pep rally holding his kid.

Now THAT'S funny.

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 11:34 AM
Now THAT'S funny.

That is the very tip of the ice berg of the stories I have heard from friends who spent time there.

How about the one I heard about a former BC OC who had a formation called wide. He liked what it gave them, so he had the WR get a little wider....so he called this formation WIDER.

He REALLY liked that so he had the WR's get wider than wider....

What did he call this formation you may ask.......wait for it...

WIDER-ER. The WR's had to get so wide that when they ran this at practice they had to put the ball on the hash and have the players face the sideline so they would have 50 yards on each side of the ball for the WR's to get WIDER-ER

sleepy_dragon7
11-20-2014, 11:44 AM
Kids are different. Change is inevitable.

And yes, saying Blackmon got out is SLIGHTLY not true. lmao.

And about his record.....there are 10 wins in there that I cannot account for

Was he there 10 years?:D

I wondered if anyone was gonna pick up on that.:rolleyes:

sleepy_dragon7
11-20-2014, 12:44 PM
Saturday Morning- "Johnny wont be here. He just called and his grandmother passed away.

Next Saturday. "Johnny called in. HIs grandmother passed away last night.

Next Saturday. "Johnny called in again. His other grandmother passed away.

Next Saturday game Johnny comes off the field and makes a negative comment about head coach. He gets escorted to the locker room and is told he will never play another down or another sport.

Next Friday he gives the speech at the pep rally holding his kid.

I could see inconsistent discipline like that being a contributing factor to the retention of quality coaches.

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 02:16 PM
I could see inconsistent discipline like that being a contributing factor to the retention of quality coaches.

Maybe giving head coaches 7 different subjects to teach, along with a case load of about 8-10 SPED kids....that'll do it.

sleepy_dragon7
11-20-2014, 03:21 PM
Maybe giving head coaches 7 different subjects to teach, along with a case load of about 8-10 SPED kids....that'll do it.

Lol... we must know the same people. His case load was actually closer to 20 and he "only" had five preps. Head coach of a "major" sport and varsity assistant in football... :dispntd:

baseballcoach13
11-20-2014, 03:28 PM
Lol... we must know the same people. His case load was actually closer to 20 and he "only" had five preps. Head coach of a "major" sport and varsity assistant in football... :dispntd:

Maybe my source was counting those inclusion classes in the mix. Either way, too many preps.

easttexas3a
11-20-2014, 05:29 PM
I wonder if Buddy Ray will apply for this job.

The sup is an old Dekalb guy. Buddy had some good years there, and some good ones at Big sandy. Head coach at Whitehouse and Queen City for a spell or two as well.

Snotbubbles
11-20-2014, 05:36 PM
Rumor has A.J. Sanders as front runner. They want a coach with some recent playoff experience I hear.

msu97
11-21-2014, 08:02 AM
Rumor has A.J. Sanders as front runner. They want a coach with some recent playoff experience I hear.

quit knocking on AJ... real good guy... I happen to know him...

I also know Buddy...
either choice would be great