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slingshot
11-15-2014, 11:34 AM
This one intrigues me. Stephenville will likely be able to move the ball through the air, Estacado's speed advantage will likely limit William's effectiveness on the ground. Estacado is always loaded with talent and speed--just not the most disciplined team out there. I've always thought if they could put it all together they could be very good and very difficult to beat.

here4Villa
11-15-2014, 11:38 AM
Do we know a date and time yet? I know its going to be at Shotwell but I think it was up in the air as far as time and date depending on Lubbock Coopers game???

garciap77
11-15-2014, 11:40 AM
I take Stephenville!

slingshot
11-15-2014, 11:46 AM
I'll go with Stephenville in a closer one than most people think... Ville 31--'Cado 27

JVDAD
11-15-2014, 11:53 AM
Stephenville is the easy pick.....and I like things to be easy!

slingshot
11-15-2014, 11:57 AM
I am going to try to make this one if it is on Saturday... GTG? I could actually get to meet some of you guys--won't be working (volunteering?) at this one. Well, at least I hope I don't have to work at this one!

Sville
11-15-2014, 12:51 PM
Friday 7p at Shotwell.

Smitty
11-15-2014, 01:36 PM
Estacado opponets Win/Loss record is 40 W and 123 L through 11 games.

Stephenville opponets Win/Loss record is 65 W and 44 L through 10 games.

11 games
(3-8) 5A PO team hereford 37-36 w
(3-7) 5A dumas 18-13 w
(1-9) 5A caprock 40-34 L
(10-1) 3A PO team shallowwater 21-14 L
(1-9) 5A lubbock high 48-18 W
(5-6) 5A lakeview 33-25 W
(3-8) PO team borger 21-7 W
(5-6) PO team levelland 65-53 W
(3-7) pampa 34-29 W
(5-6) PO team seminole 46-13 W
(1-8) PO team mt view 68-7 W

(40-123) (418-256)

10 games
(12-1) AS 6-A SC Anchorage 43-0 W
(4-6) 4-A PO team Gatesville 49-6 W
(7-4) 5A PO team Everman 36-21 W
(8-3) 5A PO team Cooper 39-50 L
(3-8) 4A PO team Alvarado 55-20 W
(5-6) 4A PO team Brownwood 40-21 W
(2-8) 4A Snyder 49-16 W
(8-2) 4A PO team Big Spring 57-64 L
(9-2) 4A PO team Wylie 7-21 L
(7-4) 4A PO team Decatur 66-64 W

(65-44) (441-283)

Just a few numbers to look at.

hollywood
11-15-2014, 02:05 PM
I don't know much about this years Estacado team. I know they always have athletic talent and like slingshot mentioned earlier, team discipline usually limits them. Still a dangerous team. In the playoffs, it's survival time. Limit the opponent's time of possession, limit the big plays, create turnovers and take care of the ball are the obvious keys to victory.

Is Estacado primarily a run oriented offense?

hollywood
11-15-2014, 02:06 PM
Friday 7p at Shotwell.

Is this confirmed?


Never mind, just saw your post on SYJ.com! Thanks

slingshot
11-15-2014, 03:03 PM
Friday 7p at Shotwell.
Bummer. Guess I'll miss it--will be in Midland...

here4Villa
11-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Not supposed to be as cold this time around! Thank god!

Razorback88
11-16-2014, 03:07 PM
Stephenville should win by 2-3 TD's-however Estacado has a ton of speed and has the athletes to make it close if Stephenville doesnt come to play

briandumith*
11-16-2014, 03:11 PM
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These guys are my very best friends from high school....#47 Garrett is their boy.. Hope he shines Friday night

toddg
11-16-2014, 09:01 PM
Another Lubbock team for the Jackets!! This time I believe the Jackets will roll on the Shotwell turf!!

briandumith*
11-16-2014, 10:21 PM
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JVDAD
11-17-2014, 10:43 AM
The Stephenville defense is Swiss Cheese, Estacado by 49+ :rolleyes::rolleyes:

STUDMYSTRO
11-17-2014, 10:59 AM
The Stephenville defense is Swiss Cheese, Estacado by 49+ :rolleyes::rolleyes:

:lies: :rolleyes:

:cool: The Yellow Jackets are ready to stun Estacado!!!!!

toddg
11-17-2014, 11:00 AM
i look for the Jacket Defense to find a groove in this one, things change when its do or die...they are a focused bunch.

here4Villa
11-17-2014, 11:30 AM
[QUOTE=STUDMYSTRO;1842102]:lies: :rolleyes:

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sville
11-17-2014, 11:57 AM
Estacado is a run heavy team which we match up well against. It is the dual threat QB in a balanced offense that we have a hard time stopping. I see this game going the way of the Everman game.

hollywood
11-17-2014, 11:59 AM
Estacado is a run heavy team which we match up well against. It is the dual threat QB in a balanced offense that we have a hard time stopping. I see this game going the way of the Everman game.

:iagree: with this! People outside of Stephenville or have only seen them play once.. clueless.

Jacket97
11-17-2014, 02:26 PM
Stephenville by more than a little in this one. 49-28

toddg
11-17-2014, 05:15 PM
:iagree: with this! People outside of Stephenville or have only seen them play once.. clueless.

There are always clues...:

slingshot
11-17-2014, 06:12 PM
:iagree: with this! People outside of Stephenville or have only seen them play once.. clueless.I've seen them twice... does that count?:thinking:

hollywood
11-17-2014, 06:48 PM
I've seen them twice... does that count?:thinking:

Your opinion doesn't count slingshot! You're too biased! Heck, you can't even spell Estacado right in the thread title! :taunt:

slingshot
11-17-2014, 07:42 PM
Your opinion doesn't count slingshot! You're too biased! Heck, you can't even spell Estacado right in the thread title! :taunt:Hukd own foniks werkd 4 me!
Wait... I'm too biased? This coming from a Stephenville fan? Think that's like the pot calling the kettle... well, you know.:p

toddg
11-17-2014, 07:48 PM
Hukd own foniks werkd 4 me!
Wait... I'm too biased? This coming from a Stephenville fan? Think that's like the pot calling the kettle... well, you know.:p

thats Stevensville slingshot!! learn to spale!!

stardog
11-17-2014, 08:00 PM
thats Stevensville slingshot!! learn to spale!!

be careful there's more than one of them - they are the village people

here4Villa
11-17-2014, 08:11 PM
Oh god here we go again.

JVDAD
11-17-2014, 08:11 PM
Awesome wanted to put a name with a face, please identify! http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/17/8ad222d140690ab1ac634b5fc7846bd9.jpg

ccmom
11-17-2014, 08:19 PM
Jacketwood is the one on the right, for sure. He has had those white tights on everytime I have seen him at a game. It's "different", but I just try not to judge and hope nobody sees me talking to him!!! ;)

Smitty
11-17-2014, 08:21 PM
Swarm is in the middle!

toddg
11-17-2014, 08:26 PM
swarm is in the middle!
fire away!!

BwdLion73
11-17-2014, 08:30 PM
Third from the left looks like an Alvarado Fan. :smoker:

toddg
11-17-2014, 08:45 PM
third from the left looks like an alvarado fan. :smoker:

hey hey macho macho maaan...i got to be a macho man!!

football8
11-17-2014, 11:32 PM
In all seriousness, I read on a Carthage / El Campo thread about them arguing about who had more success in the old 4A. Really? Neither could hold the Ville's jock from 1993 until 2011 in 4A. The point is .... you're looking for CLUES. Clue up on this. How can we pull it off with :34 seconds against Big Spring last year? How can we pull it off against Decatur with :20 seconds left, with a 4th and 20 in the 4th OT? Many on this board will say luck. I can feel it in every post. They are all praying... "please God, let someone knock them out before we have to play them. Big Spring/Andrews, get ready if we take care of business against Estacado. Wylie ..... if we are lucky enough to get there... good luck beating us twice.

football8
11-17-2014, 11:37 PM
Graham thinks they want some. I think if they can get by Wylie, which I say is a pick-em, would certainly be a worthy opponent. I see a lot of similarities b/w the Graham and Ville programs except for titles. I have known one of the Graham coaches for 40 years. I saw him at a freshman volleyball match a few weeks ago. Graham wants to play the best. Stephenville is traditionally the best. You gotta respect that.

slingshot
11-18-2014, 12:28 AM
Wylie... good luck beating us twice.We will be glad to oblige and beat you twice. Lots of football to be played before then though... so, one game and one opponent at a time. Levelland is all we're focusing on right now. I would strongly suggest ya'll focus on Estacado. They will be big, physical and very athletic. Usually the fastest team we play. Looking ahead in this region will get you beat.

football8
11-18-2014, 02:06 AM
We will be glad to oblige and beat you twice. Lots of football to be played before then though... so, one game and one opponent at a time. Levelland is all we're focusing on right now. I would strongly suggest ya'll focus on Estacado. They will be big, physical and very athletic. Usually the fastest team we play. Looking ahead in this region will get you beat.

I strongly suggest you focus on the V'llle.

hollywood
11-18-2014, 07:41 AM
We will be glad to oblige and beat you twice. Lots of football to be played before then though... so, one game and one opponent at a time. Levelland is all we're focusing on right now. I would strongly suggest ya'll focus on Estacado. They will be big, physical and very athletic. Usually the fastest team we play. Looking ahead in this region will get you beat.

Focus is on Estacado I'm sure. Estacado is a dangerous team similar to Everman. Big, strong and speed in the skill positions. A typical team Ville has faced in years past. Nothing new. One game at a time my friend.

slingshot
11-18-2014, 09:08 AM
Focus is on Estacado I'm sure. Estacado is a dangerous team similar to Everman. Big, strong and speed in the skill positions. A typical team Ville has faced in years past. Nothing new. One game at a time my friend.Yup.

Jacket97
11-18-2014, 09:19 AM
So I have never understood the "forum rules" when talking about what potentially happen down the road in the playoffs. I understand the coaches and players have to focus on one game at a time and not look ahead. But myself; just being a fan should be able focus on whatever senario I can dream up. So I would love for the Ville to get another win this week. Get a little more healthy back on our team, play Big Spring, play Wylie and then maybe Argyle? That would be a very fun ride. As a "fan" I am focused on enjoying this round though first.

Dawgs
11-18-2014, 09:20 AM
In all seriousness, I read on a Carthage / El Campo thread about them arguing about who had more success in the old 4A. Really? Neither could hold the Ville's jock from 1993 until 2011 in 4A. The point is .... you're looking for CLUES. Clue up on this. How can we pull it off with :34 seconds against Big Spring last year? How can we pull it off against Decatur with :20 seconds left, with a 4th and 20 in the 4th OT? Many on this board will say luck. I can feel it in every post. They are all praying... "please God, let someone knock them out before we have to play them. Big Spring/Andrews, get ready if we take care of business against Estacado. Wylie ..... if we are lucky enough to get there... good luck beating us twice.

We weren't really arguing about who was better, just said that both had tradition while still in old 4a. You are correct in saying it's not even close to the tradition of Ville from 1993 to 2011. One huge difference!! Art Briles. One of the greatest HS football coaches in history. Give Carthage Surratt in 1993, and let his protege's run the program after he leaves for 20 seasons and see where we are. A lot of years we made the playoffs or won district inspite of coaching. I just look back on all the talent to come through Carthage. Some of our state teams had half the talent of our old 7-3 or 6-4 2 round deep teams of yester-year. Y'all were very lucky to have Briles, and have done a great job keeping the tradition after he left.

I for one know winning those games ain't luck. That is a belief of winning started at a very young age and then maturing right in front of your eyes. That's the difference between good programs, and elite. Ville has a mystique about them that's for sure.

I still say the defense stinks, and is going to get y'all beat bad!!!

JVDAD
11-18-2014, 09:29 AM
So I have never understood the "forum rules" when talking about what potentially happen down the road in the playoffs. I understand the coaches and players have to focus on one game at a time and not look ahead. But myself; just being a fan should be able focus on whatever senario I can dream up. So I would love for the Ville to get another win this week. Get a little more healthy back on our team, play Big Spring, play Wylie and then maybe Argyle? That would be a very fun ride. As a "fan" I am focused on enjoying this round though first.

Ok I will play! I would like to see a Wylie/Graham & Stephenville/Big Spring Double Header. Only one logical location, Gordon Wood!

jason
11-18-2014, 09:42 AM
I think if the Estacado QB is anything close to Decatur or Big Spring they will give Stephenville trouble, but if Stephenville can limit the drops, and pass interference penalties :rolleyes:, they will have a chance to be successful

ccmom
11-18-2014, 09:58 AM
Ok I will play! I would like to see a Wylie/Graham & Stephenville/Big Spring Double Header. Only one logical location, Gordon Wood!

That would be awesome! However, according to Brownwood posters, Sville won't schedule at playoff game at Gordon Wood. Who knows if that's really true? Those two towns have quite a love fest going on. :inlove:

jason
11-18-2014, 10:02 AM
That would be awesome! However, according to Brownwood posters, Sville won't schedule at playoff game at Gordon Wood. Who knows if that's really true? Those two towns have quite a love fest going on. :inlove:
Why would we play there? Gordon Wood is a dump.

But to be fair so is TSU Memorial, hell the visitor side is nicer than the home side.

Sweetwater Red
11-18-2014, 10:08 AM
But to be fair so is TSU Memorial.

Sweetwater doesn't care. They're 4-0 in playoff games at that dump.
Hopefully 5-0 after Friday.

JVDAD
11-18-2014, 10:09 AM
How about Shotwell it should be neutral "enough" right?

ccmom
11-18-2014, 10:11 AM
Why would we play there? Gordon Wood is a dump.

But to be fair so is TSU Memorial, hell the visitor side is nicer than the home side.


I think Cody had posted that TSU Memorial will be undergoing some renovations in the off season, right?

A couple of weeks ago when one of the Alvarado posters commented on the poor lighting there, I didn't remember it being too bad. However, when we were there for the Wylie/Sville game, I realized that he was right. The lighting is pretty poor. I guess when I was there before I was too focused on the cricket plague to notice. ;)

BwdLion73
11-18-2014, 10:58 AM
Why would we play there? Gordon Wood is a dump.



That's OK....maybe the Jackets will get their own stadium someday...:kiss:

Bosqueville
11-18-2014, 11:15 AM
That's OK....maybe the Jackets will get their own stadium someday...:kiss:

He's the only person I've ever heard call the stadium a dump. Is it old? yes around 40 years old but Bwd folks have done quite a lot to keep it as updated as possible. Not much you can do with an all concrete stadium. I'll still take it over TSU any day. And there are 2 playoff games there this week so it's holding its own.

toddg
11-18-2014, 11:32 AM
He's the only person I've ever heard call the stadium a dump. Is it old? yes around 40 years old but Bwd folks have done quite a lot to keep it as updated as possible. Not much you can do with an all concrete stadium. I'll still take it over TSU any day. And there are 2 playoff games there this week so it's holding its own.
..and you dont need a flashlight to find a seat...

defense51
11-18-2014, 11:56 AM
He's the only person I've ever heard call the stadium a dump. Is it old? yes around 40 years old but Bwd folks have done quite a lot to keep it as updated as possible. Not much you can do with an all concrete stadium. I'll still take it over TSU any day. And there are 2 playoff games there this week so it's holding its own.

I like Gordon Wood Stadium, lots of history and tradition there!

Steernation
11-18-2014, 12:01 PM
Its the end of the road for the Ville! I see this being a close game ending with a score of 21-28 Estacado

Jacket97
11-18-2014, 12:08 PM
Ok I will play! I would like to see a Wylie/Graham & Stephenville/Big Spring Double Header. Only one logical location, Gordon Wood!

Yes, but perhaps at Shotwell or Sweetwater. I like all those match ups though. Would be very fun!

Steernation
11-18-2014, 12:15 PM
Yes, but perhaps at Shotwell or Sweetwater. I like all those match ups though. Would be very fun!

YESSSSS i agree with this. I wish this would happen. Shotwell would be the best place id think.

Sweetwater Red
11-18-2014, 12:19 PM
Can't get much closer to dead center than this.

Big Spring to Shotwell 105 miles
Stephenville to Shotwell 95.

Jacket97
11-18-2014, 12:23 PM
Its the end of the road for the Ville! I see this being a close game ending with a score of 21-28 Estacado

I will disagree...Stephenville if they were going to lose would have been this past weekend. They win this one; if they get healthy by they 3rd round they make it back to the semi-final game. If they aren't entirely healthy by the third round; it will be tough to make it past the third round. JMHO.

slingshot
11-18-2014, 12:24 PM
Can't get much closer to dead center than this.

Big Spring to Shotwell 105 miles
Stephenville to Shotwell 95.

Then Wylie Bulldog Stadium would be nearly exactly in the middle... and it's a much better place to play than Shotwell.

Jacket97
11-18-2014, 12:27 PM
That's OK....maybe the Jackets will get their own stadium someday...:kiss:

We have one....and we let Tarleton use it on Saturday's lol. Ok, that was just a joke. But funny, right?

Jacket97
11-18-2014, 12:29 PM
Then Wylie Bulldog Stadium would be nearly exactly in the middle... and it's a much better place to play than Shotwell.

I like Shotwell...lots of fond memories in Shotwell for the Ville nation.

Sweetwater Red
11-18-2014, 12:30 PM
Then Wylie Bulldog Stadium would be nearly exactly in the middle... and it's a much better place to play than Shotwell.

The only problem with Wylie's stadium is the same thing that can be said for ours and that's lack of visitor parking.
Personally I don't have have a problem with it but then again I don't mind walking.

Jacket97
11-18-2014, 12:32 PM
Can't get much closer to dead center than this.

Big Spring to Shotwell 105 miles
Stephenville to Shotwell 95.

If it were Stephenville vs Andrews...I'd rather it be in Sweetwater. If it were Stephenville and Big Spring...I'd rather it be at Shotwell. But either way I'd like it because it would mean the Ville made it to the 3rd round!

Steernation
11-18-2014, 12:33 PM
The only problem with Wylie's stadium is the same thing that can be said for ours and that's lack of visitor parking parking.
Personally I don't have have a problem with it but then again I don't mind walking.

when we played wylie it was a mess trying to park and to get out after the game

Deuce
11-18-2014, 12:39 PM
Give me Ville by 14!

D'Highlander
11-18-2014, 01:16 PM
But it's Stephenville... so they will want to play in WF...

hollywood
11-18-2014, 01:33 PM
I will disagree...Stephenville if they were going to lose would have been this past weekend. They win this one; if they get healthy by they 3rd round they make it back to the semi-final game. If they aren't entirely healthy by the third round; it will be tough to make it past the third round. JMHO.

This ^. I agree, VILLE is kinda banged up right now. Get past this game and the route is on!

Live to play another week!

hollywood
11-18-2014, 01:35 PM
Since we're playing the what-if game... Big Spring/ VILLE and Wylie/Graham double header would be stellar! But even if all 4 make it to next week, it won't happen.

Steernation
11-18-2014, 02:10 PM
Since we're playing the what-if game... Big Spring/ VILLE and Wylie/Graham double header would be stellar! But even if all 4 make it to next week, it won't happen.

It wont happen but gosh it would sure be a very good double header!

here4Villa
11-18-2014, 02:52 PM
It wont happen but gosh it would sure be a very good double header!

Only reason that isn't going to happen is because Big Spring is not gonna make it past Andrews. And that's too bad cos I really would have liked to see JS and the Jackets smeer the turf with BS.

Deuce
11-18-2014, 03:14 PM
Only reason that isn't going to happen is because Big Spring is not gonna make it past Andrews. And that's too bad cos I really would have liked to see JS and the Jackets smeer the turf with BS.

So Stidham is back next week?

Steernation
11-18-2014, 03:15 PM
So Stidham is back next week?

haha thats what i thought (;

I dont see Andrews beating BS. Also dont see the Ville pulling this one through. I still think they loose by 7.

In the situation they both win, it still wouldnt happen.

here4Villa
11-18-2014, 03:19 PM
haha thats what i thought (;

I dont see Andrews beating BS. Also dont see the Ville pulling this one through. I still think they loose by 7.

In the situation they both win, it still wouldnt happen.

I would be willing to bet a lot of money that Estacado keeps it close but Jackets pull away. If Stidham were to play it wouldn't even be close. Only time will tell ;)

hollywood
11-18-2014, 03:20 PM
haha thats what i thought (;

I dont see Andrews beating BS. Also dont see the Ville pulling this one through. I still think they loose by 7.

In the situation they both win, it still wouldnt happen.

Oh good gosh, what makes you think Stephenville can't beat Estacado? That must mean you wouldn't think Graham could either. You're being delirious!

Aguilafanatico
11-18-2014, 03:34 PM
haha thats what i thought (;

I dont see Andrews beating BS. Also dont see the Ville pulling this one through. I still think they loose by 7.

In the situation they both win, it still wouldnt happen.

I'm confused. What does being loose have to do with anything?

BwdLions
11-18-2014, 03:34 PM
All this talk about S'ville beating teams easily if Stidham was playing. You might manage to outscore a team or two in the playoffs if he were, but your defense is where your biggest issues are.

Sweetwater Red
11-18-2014, 03:36 PM
All this talk about S'ville beating teams easily if Stidham was playing. You might manage to outscore a team or two in the playoffs if he were, but your defense is where your biggest issues are.

Hollywood in 3...2...1...

here4Villa
11-18-2014, 03:42 PM
All this talk about S'ville beating teams easily if Stidham was playing. You might manage to outscore a team or two in the playoffs if he were, but your defense is where your biggest issues are.

And as far as I'm concerned and the way this great game goes. The team with the most points wins. I don't care how bad yall think anyone is, as long as we win.

Steernation
11-18-2014, 03:48 PM
I'm confused. What does being loose have to do with anything?
clearly i cant type

football8
11-18-2014, 03:58 PM
All this talk about S'ville beating teams easily if Stidham was playing. You might manage to outscore a team or two in the playoffs if he were, but your defense is where your biggest issues are.

Well we really thank you for that observation. Maybe you should go do commercials for Hotels.com or something.

toddg
11-18-2014, 04:10 PM
Stephenville with Stidham...3 dimension attack..virtually unstoppable..Stidhams arm, Stidhams legs, Williams legs!--DOOR#1

Stephenville without Stidham..2 dimension attack..stoppable, but still lethal..Chavarrias arm, Williams legs!---------DOOR# 2

Stephenvilles Defense..not as bad as folks think..solid up front..secondary is about as good/bad as anyone elses..

GIVE ME DOOR#1, I DONT CARE HOW GOOD/BAD THE DEFENSE IS..CAN OUTSCORE ANY TEAM IN REG.1

GIVE ME DOOR#2 , BEATABLE..BUT WILL TAKE GREAT EFFORT FROM VERY GOOD TEAM IN REG 1

here4Villa
11-18-2014, 04:12 PM
Stephenville with Stidham...3 dimension attack..virtually unstoppable..Stidhams arm, Stidhams legs, Williams legs!--DOOR#1

Stephenville without Stidham..2 dimension attack..stoppable, but still lethal..Chavarrias arm, Williams legs!---------DOOR# 2

Stephenvilles Defense..not as bad as folks think..solid up front..secondary is about as good/bad as anyone elses..

GIVE ME DOOR#1, I DONT CARE HOW GOOD/BAD THE DEFENSE IS..CAN OUTSCORE ANY TEAM IN REG.1

GIVE ME DOOR#2 , BEATABLE..BUT WILL TAKE GREAT EFFORT FROM VERY GOOD TEAM IN REG 1

Yes to this!!!!

STUDMYSTRO
11-18-2014, 04:18 PM
Stephenville with Stidham...3 dimension attack..virtually unstoppable..Stidhams arm, Stidhams legs, Williams legs!--DOOR#1

Stephenville without Stidham..2 dimension attack..stoppable, but still lethal..Chavarrias arm, Williams legs!---------DOOR# 2

Stephenvilles Defense..not as bad as folks think..solid up front..secondary is about as good/bad as anyone elses..

GIVE ME DOOR#1, I DONT CARE HOW GOOD/BAD THE DEFENSE IS..CAN OUTSCORE ANY TEAM IN REG.1

GIVE ME DOOR#2 , BEATABLE..BUT WILL TAKE GREAT EFFORT FROM VERY GOOD TEAM IN REG 1

:ditto:

I like the way you laid this out there. In either senario, Stephenville is still a very powerful team...especially on Offense. Notice the ones really hating on the defense are the ones that only see numbers and have not really watched them play.

I see the Yellow Jackets running away in this one against Estacado. I just hope that when they do Big Spring is still in it, so we can get some sweet revenge!!!

toddg
11-18-2014, 04:33 PM
:ditto:

I like the way you laid this out there. In either senario, Stephenville is still a very powerful team...especially on Offense. Notice the ones really hating on the defense are the ones that only see numbers and have not really watched them play.

I see the Yellow Jackets running away in this one against Estacado. I just hope that when they do Big Spring is still in it, so we can get some sweet revenge!!!
Andrews has all kinds of old scores to settle with BS..this year, they have the team to take care of a few

BwdLions
11-18-2014, 05:40 PM
I guess that argument has already been made this year? I normally have better sense to stay out of S'ville threads. Oh well, I had a weak moment, and it's been slow at work today.

slingshot
11-18-2014, 05:52 PM
Stephenville with Stidham...3 dimension attack..virtually unstoppable..Stidhams arm, Stidhams legs, Williams legs!--DOOR#1

Stephenville without Stidham..2 dimension attack..stoppable, but still lethal..Chavarrias arm, Williams legs!---------DOOR# 2

Stephenvilles Defense..not as bad as folks think..solid up front..secondary is about as good/bad as anyone elses..

GIVE ME DOOR#1, I DONT CARE HOW GOOD/BAD THE DEFENSE IS..CAN OUTSCORE ANY TEAM IN REG.1

GIVE ME DOOR#2 , BEATABLE..BUT WILL TAKE GREAT EFFORT FROM VERY GOOD TEAM IN REG 1Let me roll up my pants, it's getting deep in here...

Stephenville without Stidham will get beat by Wylie (or Graham) by 3 TD's (or more). Go back and watch the Wylie @ Stephenville film again. We SHUT YOU DOWN until the reserves were in with 2 minutes to play. This was with everthing in Stephenville's favor--home game, senior night, open week to prepare. You won't have any of that in the playoffs. You lose. Period. Now against teams with weak defenses like Big Spring or Andrews--it will prob be another shootout, just like the 1st Big Spring or Decatur games.

Stephenville with Stidham will be much more competitive and should comfortably win those games against Big Spring or Andrews... against Wylie or Graham it will all come down to how well the Jackets defense plays. Both of those teams defenses are good enough to even give Stidham problems--not shut him down mind you, but you're not going to be 'unstoppable'. Would predict putting up 28-35 points, but not 64. Question is can your defense hold the other team to less than that? I don't think so, think either one beats you by 7-10 points...

football8
11-18-2014, 06:04 PM
I guess that argument has already been made this year? I normally have better sense to stay out of S'ville threads. Oh well, I had a weak moment, and it's been slow at work today.

No problem. I wasn't trying to be ugly, just a smarta** I guess. For those of us who have watched it every week it has been frustrated to say the least. We graduated the entire linebacking core but 1 and all of the secondary but 1 and he moved positions. They really have gotten a lot better in the last 3 weeks.

#1 TEXAN
11-18-2014, 06:05 PM
Villes season ends here.

JVDAD
11-18-2014, 06:06 PM
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Wasn't this guy Stephenville class of 82?

here4Villa
11-18-2014, 06:09 PM
Let me roll up my pants, it's getting deep in here...

Stephenville without Stidham will get beat by Wylie (or Graham) by 3 TD's (or more). Go back and watch the Wylie @ Stephenville film again. We SHUT YOU DOWN until the reserves were in with 2 minutes to play. This was with everthing in Stephenville's favor--home game, senior night, open week to prepare. You won't have any of that in the playoffs. You lose. Period. Now against teams with weak defenses like Big Spring or Andrews--it will prob be another shootout, just like the 1st Big Spring or Decatur games.

Stephenville with Stidham will be much more competitive and should comfortably win those games against Big Spring or Andrews... against Wylie or Graham it will all come down to how well the Jackets defense plays. Both of those teams defenses are good enough to even give Stidham problems--not shut him down mind you, but you're not going to be 'unstoppable'. Would predict putting up 28-35 points, but not 64. Question is can your defense hold the other team to less than that? I don't think so, think either one beats you by 7-10 points...

All I'm gonna say is you bring up some great points. But what we need to do is take the entire first paragraph of your statement and disregard it. There is no way that Stidham will be out by the time we play again. But again, as others have said, one game at a time.

hollywood
11-18-2014, 06:10 PM
Let me roll up my pants, it's getting deep in here...

Stephenville without Stidham will get beat by Wylie (or Graham) by 3 TD's (or more). Go back and watch the Wylie @ Stephenville film again. We SHUT YOU DOWN until the reserves were in with 2 minutes to play. This was with everthing in Stephenville's favor--home game, senior night, open week to prepare. You won't have any of that in the playoffs. You lose. Period. Now against teams with weak defenses like Big Spring or Andrews--it will prob be another shootout, just like the 1st Big Spring or Decatur games.

Stephenville with Stidham will be much more competitive and should comfortably win those games against Big Spring or Andrews... against Wylie or Graham it will all come down to how well the Jackets defense plays. Both of those teams defenses are good enough to even give Stidham problems--not shut him down mind you, but you're not going to be 'unstoppable'. Would predict putting up 28-35 points, but not 64. Question is can your defense hold the other team to less than that? I don't think so, think either one beats you by 7-10 points...

Agree with some of it. We all know each week is a new week even in a rematch. With Stidham or not, Stephenville can beat Wylie or Graham by as many as you just said Stephenville would get beat by. Wylie did not dominate Stephenville by any stretch of the imagination. It just wasn't the Jackets night. Any of the 5 teams Andrews, Big Spring, Graham, Stephenville and Wylie could beat each other on any given night. You'll eat your words again slingshot. ;)

slingshot
11-18-2014, 06:35 PM
Agree with some of it. We all know each week is a new week even in a rematch. With Stidham or not, Stephenville can beat Wylie or Graham by as many as you just said Stephenville would get beat by. Wylie did not dominate Stephenville by any stretch of the imagination. It just wasn't the Jackets night. Any of the 5 teams Andrews, Big Spring, Graham, Stephenville and Wylie could beat each other on any given night. You'll eat your words again slingshot. ;)Mark it down--without Stidham 'Ville will not beat Wylie or Graham. I have watched them--several times. Too many holes on defense, either team's defense will give ya'll fits. With him it is indeed much more competitive. Funny that our takes on the Wylie /Stephenville game are so different. Ya'll could move the ball reasonably well between the 30's but our D shut the door when you got there. Don't think it was an off-night for Stephenville at all--you just finally ran into a good defense. Now that all being said--if we play like we did against Graham the 1st time we will lose this week and just about any other...

toddg
11-18-2014, 06:39 PM
Stidham is D1 QB level right now, with his skill set he will be the starter for the Red Raiders next fall.. He is that good and he elevates the play of others around him.. He makes a ton of difference in the Jackets offense.. That is not theory.. It is a fact!

slingshot
11-18-2014, 06:44 PM
Stidham is D1 QB level right now, with his skill set he will be the starter for the Red Raiders next fall.. He is that good and he elevates the play of others around him.. He makes a ton of difference in the Jackets offense.. That is not theory.. It is a fact!Prob so--though not sure at his weight he could take the pounding at that level now--a year in the weight room and a 5000 cal/day diet to put 25 lbs of muscle on his frame then yes... but, remember Graham and Wylie each have several D1 recruits playing defense. That is why the strength of both teams are the defenses. We have held 10 or the 11 teams we have played to their season low in scoring--that is a fact too.

Aguilafanatico
11-18-2014, 06:54 PM
:1popcorn::1popcorn::1popcorn:

hollywood
11-18-2014, 07:00 PM
Mark it down--without Stidham 'Ville will not beat Wylie or Graham. I have watched them--several times. Too many holes on defense, either team's defense will give ya'll fits. With him it is indeed much more competitive. Funny that our takes on the Wylie /Stephenville game are so different. Ya'll could move the ball reasonably well between the 30's but our D shut the door when you got there. Don't think it was an off-night for Stephenville at all--you just finally ran into a good defense. Now that all being said--if we play like we did against Graham the 1st time we will lose this week and just about any other...

We'll see. Wylie was Chavy's first start. Two weeks prior, he had to step in without notice. He did a helluva job. Against Wylie, the play calling was very limited. Last week against Decatur, he looked a lot more comfortable. Timing is everything with a spread offense and he's made great strides with the offense in the past few weeks. I look for the offense to look even better this week. As for the defense, the Jackets made some stops against Decatur. Held them to less points in 4 qtrs than Graham.. The daunting Graham defense that held Wylie. So to say the defense has holes is only partly true. I agree that Wylie has the best defense in 4A Reg 1. But even y'all have some weaknesses. It's hard to beat a team twice. In an event that a rematch occurs, we can safely estimate it will be a different game. One way or another.

slingshot
11-18-2014, 07:28 PM
We'll see. Wylie was Chavy's first start. Two weeks prior, he had to step in without notice. He did a helluva job. Against Wylie, the play calling was very limited. Last week against Decatur, he looked a lot more comfortable. Timing is everything with a spread offense and he's made great strides with the offense in the past few weeks. I look for the offense to look even better this week. As for the defense, the Jackets made some stops against Decatur. Held them to less points in 4 qtrs than Graham.. The daunting Graham defense that held Wylie. So to say the defense has holes is only partly true. I agree that Wylie has the best defense in 4A Reg 1. But even y'all have some weaknesses. It's hard to beat a team twice. In an event that a rematch occurs, we can safely estimate it will be a different game. One way or another.Good points all. Lot's of football between now and then though... and it's all sudden death!

garciap77
11-18-2014, 08:19 PM
.................... It's hard to beat a team twice.................
:iagree:

hollywood
11-18-2014, 09:08 PM
Just so everyone knows... It's not a secret. I applaud Coach Gillespie for supporting Chavy and the team! :clap:

Stidham making strides with recovery from broken hand
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By BRAD KEITH

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STEPHENVILLE (November 18, 2014) — How close is Jarrett Stidham to returning for the Stephenville Yellow Jackets?

The Under Armour All-American has not played since breaking a bone in his throwing hand on Stephenville’s opening drive at Big Spring on Oct. 24, but could be close to a comeback according to head coach Joe Gillespie.

That does not mean, however, that Stidham will play, or even suit up on when the Yellow Jackets take on Lubbock Estacado in a 4A Division I area playoff at Shotwell Stadium in Abilene at 7 p.m. Friday.

“Honestly, at this point, we’re just a little over three weeks removed from surgery,” said Gillespie Tuesday. Stidham had a plate and eight screws installed on Oct. 27. “He has made tremendous strides in his recovery and the doctors and him are extremely pleased with how he’s coming along. He has picked up a ball and started throwing a little bit, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s ready.

“We were in week-to-week mode after the surgery, and now we’re in the mode of day-to-day,” Gillespie added. “This is the first week where we’ve said, let’s see what Monday brings, and if it’s good, let’s see what Tuesday brings. But we’re still taking infant steps because we have to be 100 percent sure with the call whenever it’s made. We have to do what’s absolute best for the Stephenville Yellow Jackets and what’s best for that young man, and we have to consider the job Anthony (Chavarria) has done, as well.”

In the opening seven games of the season, Stidham passed for 2,148 yards and 24 touchdowns with just one interception while also rushing for 590 yards and eight scores. The Texas Tech pledge and Elite 11 fraternity member received his Under-Armour All-America jersey in a ceremony at Gandy Gym last week.

Gillespie has nothing but praise for Chavarria’s performance in Stidham’s stead. Since taking over against Big Spring, he has passed for 1,039 yards and 12 touchdowns.

“Anthony is on the same pace Jarrett was on as far as throwing the ball,” said Gillespie. “I’m all kinds of fired up for Anthony, because while we hate to see it come this way and certainly hate to see Jarrett injured, Anthony is a kid who just needed an opportunity to shine and he’s certainly done that.”

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Aguilafanatico
11-18-2014, 10:36 PM
Just so everyone knows... It's not a secret. I applaud Coach Gillespie for supporting Chavy and the team! :clap:

Stidham making strides with recovery from broken hand
Posted by jhorton
By BRAD KEITH

TheFlashToday.com

STEPHENVILLE (November 18, 2014) — How close is Jarrett Stidham to returning for the Stephenville Yellow Jackets?

The Under Armour All-American has not played since breaking a bone in his throwing hand on Stephenville’s opening drive at Big Spring on Oct. 24, but could be close to a comeback according to head coach Joe Gillespie.

That does not mean, however, that Stidham will play, or even suit up on when the Yellow Jackets take on Lubbock Estacado in a 4A Division I area playoff at Shotwell Stadium in Abilene at 7 p.m. Friday.

“Honestly, at this point, we’re just a little over three weeks removed from surgery,” said Gillespie Tuesday. Stidham had a plate and eight screws installed on Oct. 27. “He has made tremendous strides in his recovery and the doctors and him are extremely pleased with how he’s coming along. He has picked up a ball and started throwing a little bit, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s ready.

“We were in week-to-week mode after the surgery, and now we’re in the mode of day-to-day,” Gillespie added. “This is the first week where we’ve said, let’s see what Monday brings, and if it’s good, let’s see what Tuesday brings. But we’re still taking infant steps because we have to be 100 percent sure with the call whenever it’s made. We have to do what’s absolute best for the Stephenville Yellow Jackets and what’s best for that young man, and we have to consider the job Anthony (Chavarria) has done, as well.”

In the opening seven games of the season, Stidham passed for 2,148 yards and 24 touchdowns with just one interception while also rushing for 590 yards and eight scores. The Texas Tech pledge and Elite 11 fraternity member received his Under-Armour All-America jersey in a ceremony at Gandy Gym last week.

Gillespie has nothing but praise for Chavarria’s performance in Stidham’s stead. Since taking over against Big Spring, he has passed for 1,039 yards and 12 touchdowns.

“Anthony is on the same pace Jarrett was on as far as throwing the ball,” said Gillespie. “I’m all kinds of fired up for Anthony, because while we hate to see it come this way and certainly hate to see Jarrett injured, Anthony is a kid who just needed an opportunity to shine and he’s certainly done that.”

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All this conjecture doesn't seem fair to the kid doing his best to lead his team through the playoffs in replacement of Stidham. I am by no means a Ville fan(surprise) but find myself pulling for the kid to do well. If I'm not mistaken he is also a senior and potentially playing his final season of football (I don't know his prospects after hs) and am sure he is working his butt off.
Good luck Chavy. Hope you do well and if you meet up with my Eagles......all bets are off.

2muchOffense
11-18-2014, 11:47 PM
It's been a while but I would like to first say way a great job Chavy has done! The young man has stepped up....Period! The game last week was insane and a lot of credit has to rest on his shoulders. However let's not overlook the homerun factor Stidham brings to the game. His running ability is a huge difference in what the Jackets do on offense. Stidham can take it to the house just as easily as Williams. Wylie was able to come after Chavy and they did a great job on defense that night, but when you blitz Stidham he makes you pay. I'm not goin to say we beat Wylie with Stidham because as of today that doesn't matter. I do know that as every day passes the Jacket train picks up steam. A healthy Stidham could be the difference in the region. Just a quick mind blower, Stidham comes back at receiver? He won a state title in that role. Chavy to Stidham for the td? Whatever it takes!

hollywood
11-18-2014, 11:54 PM
All this conjecture doesn't seem fair to the kid doing his best to lead his team through the playoffs in replacement of Stidham. I am by no means a Ville fan(surprise) but find myself pulling for the kid to do well. If I'm not mistaken he is also a senior and potentially playing his final season of football (I don't know his prospects after hs) and am sure he is working his butt off.
Good luck Chavy. Hope you do well and if you meet up with my Eagles......all bets are off.

Aguilafanatico, every player on the team has an important role. Each player knows their role. Some player's role is to step in and play behind a more gifted player when given the opportunity. Some players role is to be the play maker or the D1 recruited RB or QB or DL. It's part of competitive sports. It happened to me my sophomore year. I was starting RB as freshman. A move-in RB from Tyler that was bigger, stronger and faster than me took my spot. I excepted it and understood. I played backup RB and starting DB from then on. If Ralston went down for a few weeks and the backup did a great job in his place, does Ralston deserve his spot back when his health returns?

Aguilafanatico
11-18-2014, 11:59 PM
Aguilafanatico, every player on the team has an important role. Each player knows their role. Some player's role is to step in and play behind a more gifted player when given the opportunity. Some players role is to be the play maker or the D1 recruited RB or QB or DL. It's part of competitive sports. It happened to me my sophomore year. I was starting RB as freshman. A move-in RB from Tyler that was bigger, stronger and faster than me took my spot. I excepted it and understood. I played backup RB and starting DB from then on. If Ralston went down for a few weeks and the backup did a great job in his place, does Ralston deserve his spot back when his health returns?

Absolutely he does, as does Stidham. I think you are missing the point.

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 12:02 AM
I totally get what he is saying and I applaud Chavy on a job well done. However a healthy Stidham changes games. I for one am excited for him to be back soon! And SOONER than later ;)

toddg
11-19-2014, 12:03 AM
Fact is..and it's a major fact.. Wylie has never played against Stidham as a QB..flip of the coin he has never faced Wylie as a QB either..it may never happen, and it would be a shame.. I'm curious to know how it would turn out.. Oh well.. That's football..

hollywood
11-19-2014, 12:16 AM
Absolutely he does, as does Stidham. I think you are missing the point.

I understand what you're saying, I thought I would add that he's in a position because he has a role on the team. It might have came across differently. I know everyone is behind him and believes in him.

panfan
11-19-2014, 09:11 AM
Stephenville with Stidham...3 dimension attack..virtually unstoppable..Stidhams arm, Stidhams legs, Williams legs!--DOOR#1

Stephenville without Stidham..2 dimension attack..stoppable, but still lethal..Chavarrias arm, Williams legs!---------DOOR# 2

Stephenvilles Defense..not as bad as folks think..solid up front..secondary is about as good/bad as anyone elses..

GIVE ME DOOR#1, I DONT CARE HOW GOOD/BAD THE DEFENSE IS..CAN OUTSCORE ANY TEAM IN REG.1

GIVE ME DOOR#2 , BEATABLE..BUT WILL TAKE GREAT EFFORT FROM VERY GOOD TEAM IN REG 1

Door #1 is not an option right now - so its irrelevant. The ville will have to live or die with who they got on the field Friday. Plain and simple. I think they'll pull it out by a TD, but it won't be a gimme game and they will have to fight for all points they score, and all the points they keep off the board from the other squad.

jason
11-19-2014, 09:22 AM
Door #1 is not an option right now
Or is it?!?!

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 09:26 AM
Door #1 is not an option right now - so its irrelevant. The ville will have to live or die with who they got on the field Friday. Plain and simple. I think they'll pull it out by a TD, but it won't be a gimme game and they will have to fight for all points they score, and all the points they keep off the board from the other squad.

Why is it not an option?

panfan
11-19-2014, 09:33 AM
Why is it not an option?

Even if he is cleared, coaches would be freakin nuts to put him him. Anybody who has broken a bone, had screw's put in etc is not gonna be 100% probably not even 50%. first hit on that hand - he's done without proper healing time. Just cause he might be cleared to resume activity, doesn't mean he's ready to play. I'm no doc, but seen plenty of broken bones, plates, and screws, and know it takes longer than 3 weeks to heal from that.

jason
11-19-2014, 09:43 AM
Even if he is cleared, coaches would be freakin nuts to put him him. Anybody who has broken a bone, had screw's put in etc is not gonna be 100% probably not even 50%. first hit on that hand - he's done without proper healing time. Just cause he might be cleared to resume activity, doesn't mean he's ready to play. I'm no doc, but seen plenty of broken bones, plates, and screws, and know it takes longer than 3 weeks to heal from that.
This Friday would technically be 4 weeks from the day of the injury and 3 weeks & 4 days from the surgery :D

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 09:46 AM
Exactly, no disrespect, but you aren't a doc. Friday would be four weeks to the day. And Jarrett is making great strides in his recovery. You'd be surprised. I can't really elaborate, but if you think the star QB is going to continue to sit out in the middle of Texas High School Playoffs you got another thing coming. Wish I could say more but I can't. Maybe not this week, bc I don't think they need him to beat Estacado, but I'll bet money he would play next week.

Pudlugger
11-19-2014, 09:51 AM
Exactly, no disrespect, but you aren't a doc. Friday would be four weeks to the day. And Jarrett is making great strides in his recovery. You'd be surprised. I can't really elaborate, but if you think the star QB is going to continue to sit out in the middle of Texas High School Playoffs you got another thing coming. Wish I could say more but I can't. Maybe not this week, bc I don't think they need him to beat Estacado, but I'll bet money he would play next week.

Medical fact in healing after 6 weeks 80% of the original strength is attained. After 4 weeks 50%. If Stidham goes in too early he is taking a big risk.

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 09:52 AM
Medical fact in healing after 6 weeks 80% of the original strength is attained. After 4 weeks 50%. If Stidham goes in too early he is taking a big risk.

We shall see

panfan
11-19-2014, 10:02 AM
Medical fact in healing after 6 weeks 80% of the original strength is attained. After 4 weeks 50%. If Stidham goes in too early he is taking a big risk.

Huge risk of reinjury - seen it, lived it with my own and many friends and family. Fans need to come to grips with reality and quit pipe dreaming of his return for this Friday night, maybe not even next Friday if they get past Estacado. I'm out.

OldBison75
11-19-2014, 10:30 AM
I hope that they are very careful with the return of Stidham. He may be gambling his future on a playoff game. I believe that Stephenville can win this game without him and should have faith in Chavy. From what I have followed, the kid can sling the ball and has done a very, very good job since he was forced into action. There are not many teams that have the quality of backup that can come in and the team still play at a top level. I hope that the coaching staff can find a way to use Stidham in a part-time role that will limit his exposure to further injury if he is needed, but, he should not play for this week for sure to reach better healing. I know if I was a fan that crowed for his early return and he got re-injured and lost his future I would feel really bad for pushing for him to return. This is a kid with a big future ahead of him and he needs to be at least 80% before they even consider letting him return.

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 10:51 AM
I'm sure the docs, coaches, staff and Jarrett will make the right decisions. I'm not just a fan wanting his return and we know what's at stake. We should probably get back to what this thread is about.

Jackets by 14! Go Ville!

Sville
11-19-2014, 11:01 AM
The irony about the Jacket defense is it was 2 huge stops on the 2pt conversion tries in the 3rd and 4th OT's that ended up being the difference. Oh and a great call by Coach Winder on the half back pass for the winning 2 pointer.

Caprocker
11-19-2014, 11:10 AM
I'm sure the docs, coaches, staff and Jarrett will make the right decisions. I'm not just a fan wanting his return and we know what's at stake. We should probably get back to what this thread is about.

Jackets by 14! Go Ville!

i know how important football is in stephenville and texas in general. But isnt stidham going to tech at christmas? the qb race at tech is open and if he were to get hurt again that would really put him behind IMO. anyway, hey estacado is better than decatur but still not sure if the matadors can roll with the ville o..with heistancy i say, matadors by 7

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 11:14 AM
The irony about the Jacket defense is it was 2 huge stops on the 2pt conversion tries in the 3rd and 4th OT's that ended up being the difference. Oh and a great call by Coach Winder on the half back pass for the winning 2 pointer.

Man that play was awesome. Everyone was running after Kaegun and then he passes to a wide open Brown. That was too much. I wish there would have been a camera on the visitors side to see the crowd eruption when that happened.

slingshot
11-19-2014, 11:14 AM
Medical fact in healing after 6 weeks 80% of the original strength is attained. After 4 weeks 50%. If Stidham goes in too early he is taking a big risk.I am a doctor (family practice/sports medicine for 24 yrs). These numbers are correct. Can he play? Yes. Would it be best for him to wait 6 weeks? Yes. Will the coaches and doctors be able to keep him out if he feels good? May be difficult.

Aja
11-19-2014, 11:55 AM
sounds like Stidham being out is not the problem...defense can't stop anyone!

the Ville 89
11-19-2014, 12:16 PM
sounds like Stidham being out is not the problem...defense can't stop anyone!

Get a clue, Although he may not play D.. the caliber of player we are talking about makes his mere presence all the difference in a lot of aspects of the game. Case in point, go back to last friday nite before the scoreboard gets out of hand, the Chavy led O only manages 6 pts in the 2nd half and a number of punts thus putting more pressure on the Defense. I dont know how someone who watches football doesnt see all this! The D is allowed to take more caiberated risk and get after them also If Jarrett and the O jump out early like they almost always do now you put pressure on your opponents O to were their almost certain to make mistakes... that is all!!

toddg
11-19-2014, 01:03 PM
Hey HollyWood!! Is it Keygun? Or Kaygun?

the Ville 89
11-19-2014, 01:07 PM
Hey HollyWood!! Is it Keygun? Or Kaygun?

Kaegun=kay-gun

toddg
11-19-2014, 01:08 PM
I am a doctor (family practice/sports medicine for 24 yrs). These numbers are correct. Can he play? Yes. Would it be best for him to wait 6 weeks? Yes. Will the coaches and doctors be able to keep him out if he feels good? May be difficult.
The plate doesn't compensate the strength? .. Just curious, I have no clue on hand injury

the Ville 89
11-19-2014, 01:19 PM
The plate doesn't compensate the strength? .. Just curious, I have no clue on hand injury

Good question,, I would at least think it would compensate from re-injury. But no clue also.

D'Highlander
11-19-2014, 01:20 PM
Even if he is cleared, coaches would be freakin nuts to put him him. Anybody who has broken a bone, had screw's put in etc is not gonna be 100% probably not even 50%. first hit on that hand - he's done without proper healing time. Just cause he might be cleared to resume activity, doesn't mean he's ready to play. I'm no doc, but seen plenty of broken bones, plates, and screws, and know it takes longer than 3 weeks to heal from that.


You sir are not taking into account the wound was sprinkled with Art Dust...

JVDAD
11-19-2014, 01:34 PM
I am a doctor (family practice/sports medicine for 24 yrs). These numbers are correct. Can he play? Yes. Would it be best for him to wait 6 weeks? Yes. Will the coaches and doctors be able to keep him out if he feels good? May be difficult.

I have the feeling the Staff at Tech may have more to say about this than the Staff at Stephenville. Sad really a good football team that is still very much in the hunt and the discussion continually turns to the one player that can't play. You win as a team and lose as a team, period. Sorta feel bad for those 50 some odd kids still busting their tail and everyone talks of how deficient they are without the star.

Aguilafanatico
11-19-2014, 01:42 PM
I have the feeling the Staff at Tech may have more to say about this than the Staff at Stephenville. Sad really a good football team that is still very much in the hunt and the discussion continually turns to the one player that can't play. You win as a team and lose as a team, period. Sorta feel bad for those 50 some odd kids still busting their tail and everyone talks of how deficient they are without the star.

This!

toddg
11-19-2014, 01:46 PM
I have the feeling the Staff at Tech may have more to say about this than the Staff at Stephenville. Sad really a good football team that is still very much in the hunt and the discussion continually turns to the one player that can't play. You win as a team and lose as a team, period. Sorta feel bad for those 50 some odd kids still busting their tail and everyone talks of how deficient they are without the star.

What is Tech going to do.. Threaten to pull his ride if He decides to play? There are 21 other D1 schools waiting in line..he is a smart young man, I'm sure he will heed the advice of HIS Doctor.

JVDAD
11-19-2014, 01:58 PM
Your right he is a smart kid, probably smart enough to realize that re injuring his hand could be the difference between starting and a red shirt.

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 02:22 PM
Jarrett will dress in full pads/uniform and play only if needed this week. Next week he is full on. Now lay this conversation to rest please.

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 02:25 PM
Get a clue, Although he may not play D.. the caliber of player we are talking about makes his mere presence all the difference in a lot of aspects of the game. Case in point, go back to last friday nite before the scoreboard gets out of hand, the Chavy led O only manages 6 pts in the 2nd half and a number of punts thus putting more pressure on the Defense. I dont know how someone who watches football doesnt see all this! The D is allowed to take more caiberated risk and get after them also If Jarrett and the O jump out early like they almost always do now you put pressure on your opponents O to were their almost certain to make mistakes... that is all!!

What about the Lubbock Cooper game on ESPN?

Jacket97
11-19-2014, 02:25 PM
Your right he is a smart kid, probably smart enough to realize that re injuring his hand could be the difference between starting and a red shirt.

Really I have no idea why this is even being discussed. He will not be a factor for this game anyways. I keep hearing about how bad Stephenville's defense is on here. Well I will tell you this, Stephenville has tradition. Stephenville has mystique. When it comes to Friday night, rather Stephenville is victorious or not; the other team is going to know they just had to battle for 48 minutes. Stephenville will win this game.

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 02:27 PM
I have the feeling the Staff at Tech may have more to say about this than the Staff at Stephenville. Sad really a good football team that is still very much in the hunt and the discussion continually turns to the one player that can't play. You win as a team and lose as a team, period. Sorta feel bad for those 50 some odd kids still busting their tail and everyone talks of how deficient they are without the star.

+1000! These guys just have to make excuses for why the defense is so bad. That's it! One man doesn't win a ball game. Every game they lose there is an excuse. Last year same thing. Got absolutely dominated, and said if Stidham was healthy they would win. Lol.

toddg
11-19-2014, 02:29 PM
Jarrett will dress in full pads/uniform and play only if needed this week. Next week he is full on. Now lay this conversation to rest please.
I will be the biggest Anthony Chavarria fan this Friday night! Hope he lights it up!!

JacketSwarm
11-19-2014, 02:50 PM
well well I am gone for a couple of weeks and the Jackets are still in the playoffs and no Jarrett. shows all you naysayers the Jacket program outputs more with less than most others. argyle gets southlakes and dentons leftovers. celina is washed up and wrinkled. wylie gets all coopers and highs leftovers. graham is graham the red headed stepchild program of the state. all the east Texas and houston area teams have talent out their butts and barely get by. Jackets roll this week. llano estacado will go back to playing something they are better at next week. basketball. Jackets will get Jarrett back next week. on to the semis. argyle or kennadale aint even ready for us.


Fire Away

Caprocker
11-19-2014, 03:05 PM
well well I am gone for a couple of weeks and the Jackets are still in the playoffs and no Jarrett. shows all you naysayers the Jacket program outputs more with less than most others. argyle gets southlakes and dentons leftovers. celina is washed up and wrinkled. wylie gets all coopers and highs leftovers. graham is graham the red headed stepchild program of the state. all the east Texas and houston area teams have talent out their butts and barely get by. Jackets roll this week. llano estacado will go back to playing something they are better at next week. basketball. Jackets will get Jarrett back next week. on to the semis. argyle or kennadale aint even ready for us.


Fire Away

superior contribution..thanks for that

Aguilafanatico
11-19-2014, 03:07 PM
well well I am gone for a couple of weeks and the Jackets are still in the playoffs and no Jarrett. shows all you naysayers the Jacket program outputs more with less than most others. argyle gets southlakes and dentons leftovers. celina is washed up and wrinkled. wylie gets all coopers and highs leftovers. graham is graham the red headed stepchild program of the state. all the east Texas and houston area teams have talent out their butts and barely get by. Jackets roll this week. llano estacado will go back to playing something they are better at next week. basketball. Jackets will get Jarrett back next week. on to the semis. argyle or kennadale aint even ready for us.


Fire Away

You are correct about Argyle not being ready for you.....Eagles are prepping for Kaufman.
Good luck winning 2 games this week.

Bosqueville
11-19-2014, 03:17 PM
The bigger question, why would anyone want to go to Tech with the awfulness they put on the field every Saturday?

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 03:19 PM
well well I am gone for a couple of weeks and the Jackets are still in the playoffs and no Jarrett. shows all you naysayers the Jacket program outputs more with less than most others. argyle gets southlakes and dentons leftovers. celina is washed up and wrinkled. wylie gets all coopers and highs leftovers. graham is graham the red headed stepchild program of the state. all the east Texas and houston area teams have talent out their butts and barely get by. Jackets roll this week. llano estacado will go back to playing something they are better at next week. basketball. Jackets will get Jarrett back next week. on to the semis. argyle or kennadale aint even ready for us.


Fire Away

More with less!! Hahaha. You guys are the biggest school in 4a D1 and kids start football in the crib over there. The young men in Ville look grown compared to other kids there age. You guys are something else over there.

Btw your comment about ETX is way off. Yes we have talent, but it is utilized well. Look at the championships at this level the last 10 years. Far superior to any other region of the state at this level.

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 03:22 PM
The bigger question, why would anyone want to go to Tech with the awfulness they put on the field every Saturday?

Open a tech thread for this nonsense. On to the next.

D'Highlander
11-19-2014, 03:24 PM
The bigger question, why would anyone want to go to Tech with the awfulness they put on the field every Saturday?

^^^^This^^^^

His GF goes there...

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 03:40 PM
^^^^This^^^^

His GF goes there...

And that's not the reason he chose to go there

D'Highlander
11-19-2014, 04:08 PM
And that's not the reason he chose to go there

do tell then...

slingshot
11-19-2014, 04:12 PM
do tell then...Academics... :cool:

Deuce
11-19-2014, 04:17 PM
I will be glad when "HE" steps back on the field so all the BS and excuses go away!! I guess it has been somewhat entertaining though.

Bosqueville
11-19-2014, 04:21 PM
Academics... :cool:

:spitlol:

JacketSwarm
11-19-2014, 04:34 PM
More with less!! Hahaha. You guys are the biggest school in 4a D1 and kids start football in the crib over there. The young men in Ville look grown compared to other kids there age. You guys are something else over there.

Btw your comment about ETX is way off. Yes we have talent, but it is utilized well. Look at the championships at this level the last 10 years. Far superior to any other region of the state at this level.

yea that's right dawg. east Texas has more talent than any region of the state and mostly just get by. teams should be winning state every year. won't happen this year. what happened. it must be a discipline issue. kids can't cut it so they quit.


Fire Away

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 04:51 PM
yea that's right dawg. east Texas has more talent than any region of the state and mostly just get by. teams should be winning state every year. won't happen this year. what happened. it must be a discipline issue. kids can't cut it so they quit.


Fire Away

East Texas pretty much does win state every year. I'm not sure what you are talking about. The only year we didn't was in 2012. Last year Ville got donkey stomped by ETX and we had a Championship game with 2 teams from 40 miles apart. In 2012 Kilgore had y'all on the ropes and just couldn't finish. This year we are down. No problem. Gilmer might be the best team in the state regardless of classification and they are ETX. GW is quite possible the 2nd best regardless of class. Then you have Navasota, and Argyle then everybody else. What happened to you guys in 2010 when you got stomped out by BW. It happens to the best of us from time to time. We don't have many senior like we usually do. Don't worry, Carthage will win another ship before Ville will. I think 2 in the next 3 years. I'll put my membership on that! Stay over there in your weak region and rack up the wins. Put Ville in with ETX and they are a normal program. No better than the Carthage's, Gilmer's, Kilgore's of the world. We had 3 or 4 teams in 3a last year in ETX that would have slaughtered Ville.

D'Highlander
11-19-2014, 04:59 PM
:1popcorn:

jason
11-19-2014, 05:01 PM
East Texas pretty much does win state every year. I'm not sure what you are talking about. The only year we didn't was in 2012. Last year Ville got donkey stomped by ETX and we had a Championship game with 2 teams from 40 miles apart. In 2012 Kilgore had y'all on the ropes and just couldn't finish. This year we are down. No problem. Gilmer might be the best team in the state regardless of classification and they are ETX. GW is quite possible the 2nd best regardless of class. Then you have Navasota, and Argyle then everybody else. What happened to you guys in 2010 when you got stomped out by BW. It happens to the best of us from time to time. We don't have many senior like we usually do. Don't worry, Carthage will win another ship before Ville will. I think 2 in the next 3 years. I'll put my membership on that! Stay over there in your weak region and rack up the wins. Put Ville in with ETX and they are a normal program. No better than the Carthage's, Gilmer's, Kilgore's of the world. We had 3 or 4 teams in 3a last year in ETX that would have slaughtered Ville.
Would you rather be a minnow or a worm on the hook, line, and sinker?!?!

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 05:08 PM
Would you rather be a minnow or a worm on the hook, line, and sinker?!?!

Hahaha...I'll take the bait. Passes a little time.

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 05:12 PM
JacketSwarm is Hollywood's alter ego!!

slingshot
11-19-2014, 05:27 PM
JacketSwarm is Hollywood's alter ego!!Hmmm... makes you wonder.:thinking:

toddg
11-19-2014, 05:53 PM
Fire away!

here4Villa
11-19-2014, 06:00 PM
Smdh. Nothing but jacket haters. I just got done reading four other threads about other games this week and there is not this type of hostility. Did the jackets really steal your lunch money back in school? Man oh man I just don't get it. Let them play without all this crap! Go Ville!

YTBulldogs
11-19-2014, 06:02 PM
:1popcorn:

toddg
11-19-2014, 06:12 PM
I think the jackets start fast on the Mats and once ahead by 2 scores.. It's over..Jacket Football 101

Aguilafanatico
11-19-2014, 06:24 PM
East Texas pretty much does win state every year. I'm not sure what you are talking about. The only year we didn't was in 2012. Last year Ville got donkey stomped by ETX and we had a Championship game with 2 teams from 40 miles apart. In 2012 Kilgore had y'all on the ropes and just couldn't finish. This year we are down. No problem. Gilmer might be the best team in the state regardless of classification and they are ETX. GW is quite possible the 2nd best regardless of class. Then you have Navasota, and Argyle then everybody else. What happened to you guys in 2010 when you got stomped out by BW. It happens to the best of us from time to time. We don't have many senior like we usually do. Don't worry, Carthage will win another ship before Ville will. I think 2 in the next 3 years. I'll put my membership on that! Stay over there in your weak region and rack up the wins. Put Ville in with ETX and they are a normal program. No better than the Carthage's, Gilmer's, Kilgore's of the world. We had 3 or 4 teams in 3a last year in ETX that would have slaughtered Ville.

I was following along, eating my popcorn when you made me spill the box.:hairpunk: Yes Gilmer could be the best though it is very debateable. I would agree they are somewhere in the top 5. BUT GW???? Better than both Argyle and Navasota? :crazy:

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 06:42 PM
I was following along, eating my popcorn when you made me spill the box.:hairpunk: Yes Gilmer could be the best though it is very debateable. I would agree they are somewhere in the top 5. BUT GW???? Better than both Argyle and Navasota? :crazy:

GW is good. Better than Gilmer in my opinion. They have the most dominant player in 4a either class this season. But no, if you read my post I put all those in the same class. No way do I think that either Gilmer or GW is better than Sota or Argyle. If that was the way my post sounded it was not my intent. Wait till next week when GW meets up with Gilmer. They will surprise some folks. They are a powerful team.

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Smdh. Nothing but jacket haters. I just got done reading four other threads about other games this week and there is not this type of hostility. Did the jackets really steal your lunch money back in school? Man oh man I just don't get it. Let them play without all this crap! Go Ville!

I think it's because most of the Ville posters have drank so much kook-aid they are about to explode with BS. I think everybody has a lot of respect for the program, but when you have posters that constantly make excuses, and honestly believe that all 4a (old 3a) teams are below them cause they were good in old 4a it makes it hard to root for them. My main problem is that some guys think there kids are working harder and want to win more than other top tier programs in Texas. And also start the non-sense about discipline and all that other stuff. If y'all's defense had a little DISCIPLINE they wouldn't be getting gashed all season long. In short it's the posters not the team or kids.

Sville
11-19-2014, 07:24 PM
We got a deal with the owners for page views. We have to increase the recruiting budget. Times are hard in dairy country with the oil boom out west.

In the meantime here is my weekly article

Cody's Corner (http://stephenvilleyellowjackets.com/index.php?topic=1942.0)

Aguilafanatico
11-19-2014, 07:34 PM
GW is good. Better than Gilmer in my opinion. They have the most dominant player in 4a either class this season. But no, if you read my post I put all those in the same class. No way do I think that either Gilmer or GW is better than Sota or Argyle. If that was the way my post sounded it was not my intent. Wait till next week when GW meets up with Gilmer. They will surprise some folks. They are a powerful team.

Yes I see their record and scores. Look dominant. We played them last year in the quarterfinal but it wasn't much of a game. DM is a heck of a player but he was done midway through the 3rd qtr. GW was very one-dimensional which can become a problem as teams move up the pecking order. Keeping good defenses honest is key. Sounds like a Gilmer vs GW matchup would be worth the price of admission. Argyle is just working to get past Kaufman this week.

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 07:41 PM
Yes I see their record and scores. Look dominant. We played them last year in the quarterfinal but it wasn't much of a game. DM is a heck of a player but he was done midway through the 3rd qtr. GW was very one-dimensional which can become a problem as teams move up the pecking order. Keeping good defenses honest is key. Sounds like a Gilmer vs GW matchup would be worth the price of admission. Argyle is just working to get past Kaufman this week.

One game at a time. GW is much improved this year, but we will see. Like you said if both make it should be a great game next week. Argyle is Argyle. Top program in 4a.

Smitty
11-19-2014, 08:52 PM
Dawgs if you and fanatic want to talk Gilmer football start a thread and go there. If you want to dicuss Stephenville vs Estacado by all means hang around.

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 09:19 PM
Dawgs if you and fanatic want to talk Gilmer football start a thread and go there. If you want to dicuss Stephenville vs Estacado by all means hang around.

Haha. Okay. I guess I'll leave you Ville guys to stroke each other's ego. Didn't mean to hijack the thread with 2 post :thinking:

hollywood
11-19-2014, 09:42 PM
Hey HollyWood!! Is it Keygun? Or Kaygun?

Lol! You've been over on www.stephenvilleyellowjackets.com, huh?! (plug for Cody)

hollywood
11-19-2014, 09:49 PM
+1000! These guys just have to make excuses for why the defense is so bad. That's it! One man doesn't win a ball game. Every game they lose there is an excuse. Last year same thing. Got absolutely dominated, and said if Stidham was healthy they would win. Lol.

Dawgs, these kids work hard each week. You keep saying how terrible the defense is and how bad they are. Goodness, they aren't terrible. They give up some big plays. But they make more big plays than they give up, so in my book they aren't bad at all. I will debate with anyone and defend this team because I know many of the players and their families. Also some of the offenses that have scored a lot of points on Stephenville are very explosive offenses. Sville said it best, this team struggles to contain spread offensive teams that have a dual threat QB. But they are getting better. Just living to play another week!

2muchOffense
11-19-2014, 09:52 PM
I will be the first to admit some people around here drink a little too much Kool Aid, but look at all the other threads every week. The Stephenville thread usually has the most posts, and I think we all know why. My frustration comes from the focus being on Stidham's situation, the greatness of East Texas, or if we could hang with anyone else these days. Folks we are playing a team that the smallest guy on their line is about the same weight as our biggest guy. They are big, fast, and can score. We have our hands full. Please don't look ahead to what could happen because we can't afford to. No team should! They have a running qb and Jacket fans know we struggle with that aspect. People say they are built like Everman so that means we are in for a fight. I have full confidence in the coaches and players. What we lack in some areas, we pose serious problems for team in others. The Ville has experience and tradition when it comes to this time of year and that a huge for the kids. We just can't expect to show up and win simply because of our history. Win this game and then we see what happens.

hollywood
11-19-2014, 09:52 PM
JacketSwarm is Hollywood's alter ego!!

LOL... What THA heck?! You're crazy man. Good try though. :rolleyes:

garciap77
11-19-2014, 09:52 PM
well well I am gone for a couple of weeks and the Jackets are still in the playoffs and no Jarrett. shows all you naysayers the Jacket program outputs more with less than most others. argyle gets southlakes and dentons leftovers. celina is washed up and wrinkled. wylie gets all coopers and highs leftovers. graham is graham the red headed stepchild program of the state. all the east Texas and houston area teams have talent out their butts and barely get by. Jackets roll this week. llano estacado will go back to playing something they are better at next week. basketball. Jackets will get Jarrett back next week. on to the semis. argyle or kennadale aint even ready for us.


Fire Away
:wave:Rocket!:wave:

slingshot
11-19-2014, 09:57 PM
LOL... What THA heck?! You're crazy man. Good try though. :rolleyes:You forgot the "Fire Away"... :cool:

hollywood
11-19-2014, 09:57 PM
I will be the first to admit some people around here drink a little too much Kool Aid, but look at all the other threads every week. The Stephenville thread usually has the most posts, and I think we all know why. My frustration comes from the focus being on Stidham's situation, the greatness of East Texas, or if we could hang with anyone else these days. Folks we are playing a team that the smallest guy on their line is about the same weight as our biggest guy. They are big, fast, and can score. We have our hands full. Please don't look ahead to what could happen because we can't afford to. No team should! They have a running qb and Jacket fans know we struggle with that aspect. People say they are built like Everman so that means we are in for a fight. I have full confidence in the coaches and players. What we lack in some areas, we pose serious problems for team in others. The Ville has experience and tradition when it comes to this time of year and that a huge for the kids. We just can't expect to show up and win simply because of our history. Win this game and then we see what happens.

Yep, I agree. Good post. The team has all focus on Estacoda this week. You know, I was reviewing some records from years past, the 90's more specifically when Briles was coaching. There were some serious battles and close games I remebered. Even in the years Stephenville won state. I see this season being similar. We can't always compare teams to the 2012 team. That was a special machine many would envy.

slingshot
11-19-2014, 09:58 PM
Yep, I agree. Good post. The team has all focus on Estacoda this week. You know, I was reviewing some records from years past, the 90's more specifically when Briles was coaching. There were some serious battles and close games I remebered. Even in the years Stephenville won state. I see this season being similar. We can't always compare teams to the 2012 team. That was a special machine many would envy.
Estacoda? And you were giving me grief?:hand:

hollywood
11-19-2014, 10:00 PM
You forgot the "Fire Away"... :cool:

Maybe it's toddg!!

Aguilafanatico
11-19-2014, 10:01 PM
I will be the first to admit some people around here drink a little too much Kool Aid, but look at all the other threads every week. The Stephenville thread usually has the most posts, and I think we all know why. My frustration comes from the focus being on Stidham's situation, the greatness of East Texas, or if we could hang with anyone else these days. Folks we are playing a team that the smallest guy on their line is about the same weight as our biggest guy. They are big, fast, and can score. We have our hands full. Please don't look ahead to what could happen because we can't afford to. No team should! They have a running qb and Jacket fans know we struggle with that aspect. People say they are built like Everman so that means we are in for a fight. I have full confidence in the coaches and players. What we lack in some areas, we pose serious problems for team in others. The Ville has experience and tradition when it comes to this time of year and that a huge for the kids. We just can't expect to show up and win simply because of our history. Win this game and then we see what happens.

Graham threads > Stephenville threads. But they have Briandumith.:)

hollywood
11-19-2014, 10:02 PM
Estacoda? And you were giving me grief?:hand:

LOL... Ok ok!



Dang spell check. :twitch:

Dawgs
11-19-2014, 10:15 PM
Dawgs, these kids work hard each week. You keep saying how terrible the defense is and how bad they are. Goodness, they aren't terrible. They give up some big plays. But they make more big plays than they give up, so in my book they aren't bad at all. I will debate with anyone and defend this team because I know many of the players and their families. Also some of the offenses that have scored a lot of points on Stephenville are very explosive offenses. Sville said it best, this team struggles to contain spread offensive teams that have a dual threat QB. But they are getting better. Just living to play another week!

I have absolutely no doubt the kids in Stephenville work there butts off year round to prepare to be Champions. That is the only way they could play at such a high level every year. I am sure the defense is not terrible. But when you guys get on here and crow about how unstoppable y'all are it's just not the case. Based solely on statistics and the freakin shootouts Ville has had this season it looks from the outside looking in that it's a major problem. Top tier teams aren't doing that week in and week out. I know you will give me some BS about unstoppable offense and all that other BS. That does not work on any level of football. You can say look at 2012, but deep down you guys know that team played better defense. My only complaint is that it seems to be blasphemy to admit there are holes in your team. For the first time a couple of post ago I saw you say 2012 wasn't going to be replicated. That's the only point I was trying to make. You guys are a top program in the state of Texas. But y'all are allowed to have holes just like everybody else. I think it's still a learning curve because it's taking awhile for the Ville posters to realize they aren't going to drop down and dominate every year. I think the 2012 team just happened to drop at the right time and dominate the first year. Are y'all going to win more championships? Sure you will. Every year and nobody can beat y'all? No way. I'm done running my mouth about Ville (unless I just can't help it) for the rest of the year. Good luck the rest of the way. We will see how it plays out.

hollywood
11-19-2014, 10:35 PM
I have absolutely no doubt the kids in Stephenville work there butts off year round to prepare to be Champions. That is the only way they could play at such a high level every year. I am sure the defense is not terrible. But when you guys get on here and crow about how unstoppable y'all are it's just not the case. Based solely on statistics and the freakin shootouts Ville has had this season it looks from the outside looking in that it's a major problem. Top tier teams aren't doing that week in and week out. I know you will give me some BS about unstoppable offense and all that other BS. That does not work on any level of football. You can say look at 2012, but deep down you guys know that team played better defense. My only complaint is that it seems to be blasphemy to admit there are holes in your team. For the first time a couple of post ago I saw you say 2012 wasn't going to be replicated. That's the only point I was trying to make. You guys are a top program in the state of Texas. But y'all are allowed to have holes just like everybody else. I think it's still a learning curve because it's taking awhile for the Ville posters to realize they aren't going to drop down and dominate every year. I think the 2012 team just happened to drop at the right time and dominate the first year. Are y'all going to win more championships? Sure you will. Every year and nobody can beat y'all? No way. I'm done running my mouth about Ville (unless I just can't help it) for the rest of the year. Good luck the rest of the way. We will see how it plays out.

I will say this and leave it alone. No one that I remember said this team would dominate and is above anyone else. No one said every team in 4A (previously 3A) is not up to VILLE's level. Sure there is some banter and smack talk.. That's OK in my book. And no one said Stephenville Yellow Jackets didn't have "holes" or weaknesses. For those of us that have watched every game this season and before know that with each Stephenville team, each and every one has their own identity. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Here's where it gets real. We're all fans here. We all love this game of HS football. Why? For some it's because their kids, family members or friends are playing. For others it could be a million others reasons but I bet it's because we love to watch the passion, heart and effort these young men deminstrate on Friday nights who are supported by stadium filled spirited town folks backing the home team. We have it good in Texas. There are not many other places where HS football is cherished as much as it is in Texas. Good luck to your Bulldogs Friday. I truly wish the best for you and your team. Carthage has great tradition and gave me an experience of watching one of my top 5 games I've ever seen. The semis in 2010 when your Dawgs defeated Brownwood 35-28.

hollywood
11-19-2014, 11:35 PM
Stats, give me stats!!

Here are some stats from www.stephenvilleyellowjackets.com comparing the last 3 seasons, 2012-2014 through the 1st round of the playoffs.

2012 Stephenville
Team offense
180.6 avg. rush yards
253.0 avg. pass yards
433.6 avg. total yards
42.3 avg. points

Team defense
150.3 avg. rush yards allowed
129.8 avg. pass yards allowed
280.1 avg. total yards allowed
20.0 avg. points allowed




2013 Stephenville
Team offense
266.7 avg. rush yards
180.5 avg. pass yards
447.2 avg. total yards
46.1 avg. points

Team defense
168.4 avg. rush yards allowed
121.8 avg. pass yards allowed
290.2 avg. total yards allowed
21.4 avg. points allowed




2014 Stephenville
Team offense
210.8 avg. rush yards
320.9 avg. pass yards
531.7 avg. total yards
44.1 avg. points

Team defense
230.1 avg. rush yards allowed
159.5 avg. pass yards allowed
389.6 avg. total yards allowed
28.3 avg. points allowed

Statistically, this years defense is giving up approx 100 yards more per game than the previous 2 seasons up to this point. But only giving up a TD more per game on average. Offensively, this years offense is averaging approx 100 yards more per game than the previous 2 seasons did yet averaging approx the same amount of points scored per game.

Aggie98
11-19-2014, 11:45 PM
Stats, give me stats!!

Here are some stats from www.stephenvilleyellowjackets.com comparing the last 3 seasons, 2012-2014 through the 1st round of the playoffs.

2012 Stephenville
Team offense
180.6 avg. rush yards
253.0 avg. pass yards
433.6 avg. total yards
42.3 avg. points

Team defense
150.3 avg. rush yards allowed
129.8 avg. pass yards allowed
280.1 avg. total yards allowed
20.0 avg. points allowed




2013 Stephenville
Team offense
266.7 avg. rush yards
180.5 avg. pass yards
447.2 avg. total yards
46.1 avg. points

Team defense
168.4 avg. rush yards allowed
121.8 avg. pass yards allowed
290.2 avg. total yards allowed
21.4 avg. points allowed




2014 Stephenville
Team offense
210.8 avg. rush yards
320.9 avg. pass yards
531.7 avg. total yards
44.1 avg. points

Team defense
230.1 avg. rush yards allowed
159.5 avg. pass yards allowed
389.6 avg. total yards allowed
28.3 avg. points allowed

Statistically, this years defense is giving up approx 100 yards more per game than the previous 2 seasons up to this point. But only giving up a TD more per game on average. Offensively, this years offense is averaging approx 100 yards more per game than the previous 2 seasons did yet averaging approx the same amount of points scored per game.

Alaska, Everman, Gatesville, Cooper <<< Aledo, Abilene, Mexico, Dillard.


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the Ville 89
11-20-2014, 06:55 AM
Alaska, Everman, Gatesville, Cooper <<< Aledo, Abilene, Mexico, Dillard.


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Hillsboro, Glen Rose, Venus <<< Brownwood, Big Spring, Wylie.
Come on now!!!

Aggie98
11-20-2014, 07:10 AM
Hillsboro, Glen Rose, Venus <<< Brownwood, Big Spring, Wylie.
Come on now!!!

Too-shay.


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hollywood
11-20-2014, 09:37 AM
Alaska, Everman, Gatesville, Cooper <<< Aledo, Abilene, Mexico, Dillard.


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Mute point. :hand:

toddg
11-20-2014, 10:09 AM
Estacado QB 3 year starter.

Sweetwater Red
11-20-2014, 10:11 AM
Estacado QB 3 year starter.

I hear his dad is Chuck Norris :eek:

STUDMYSTRO
11-20-2014, 10:19 AM
I hear his dad is Chuck Norris :eek:

Well Chavy's uncle is "the most interesting man in the world".

Dawgs
11-20-2014, 10:43 AM
Well Chavy's uncle is "the most interesting man in the world".

Chuck Norris kicks more a$$, but the "Most interesting man in the world" gets WAY more girls. Hard choice there.

slingshot
11-20-2014, 11:10 AM
OK--back to football... we have played Estacado nearly yearly for the last 6 or so years--several times in the playoffs. They are always good sized and have speed everywhere. Remember one play in particular when one of their 6'4" 250 lb D linemen ran our running back down from behind after a 30+ yard run. They do generally have issues with missed assignments and penalties. We have never lost to them but honestly there were a couple times we had no business beating them...

Sweetwater Red
11-20-2014, 11:40 AM
We have never lost to them but honestly there were a couple times we had no business beating them...

I was in the stands for one of those times. It was 2008 when an 8-2 Wylie team played a 3-7 Matador team.
I was really expecting a Wylie blowout at Grande but the Bulldogs only beat them 21-10 and just like you said
Estacado shot themselves in the foot numerous times. They were pretty one dimensional too if I remember correctly.

That Wylie team went to the fourth round before losing to Prosper in double OT. That Prosper team went on to win
the state championship with a DC that is now our AD/HC.

Sville
11-20-2014, 12:02 PM
I am a stat nerd and like little quirky things like this. Coach Gillespie took over in 2008 and has been to at least the 4th round every year but one 2009. Every team but one (in 2008 Everman) that has knocked Sville out since he took over has played for a State Championship.

slingshot
11-20-2014, 12:05 PM
I was in the stands for one of those times. It was 2008 when an 8-2 Wylie team played a 3-7 Matador team.
I was really expecting a Wylie blowout at Grande but the Bulldogs only beat them 21-10 and just like you said
Estacado shot themselves in the foot numerous times. They were pretty one dimensional too if I remember correctly.

That Wylie team went to the fourth round before losing to Prosper in double OT. That Prosper team went on to win
the state championship with a DC that is now our AD/HC.We were pretty one-dimensional that game too, our starting QB had to have a knee scope and we had a first time starter so the play calling was pretty basic and we just ran the ball.

Sville
11-20-2014, 12:10 PM
The Zebbie Lethridge led Matadors ended my high school football career in 1992 beating us in the qtr. finals 13-7. We played in a blue norther at San Angelo. The roads were predicted to get so bad we had to arrive the day before and stay in a hotel. It was a defensive ball game. Lethridge set up the Matadors 2 TD's with long punt returns.

Sweetwater Red
11-20-2014, 12:29 PM
The Zebbie Lethridge led Matadors ended my high school football career in 1992 beating us in the qtr. finals 13-7. We played in a blue norther at San Angelo. The roads were predicted to get so bad we had to arrive the day before and stay in a hotel. It was a defensive ball game. Lethridge set up the Matadors 2 TD's with long punt returns.


He knocked out Sweetwater in the first round that year also. I was at that game too. It was a virtual down pour for nearly three
quarters but strangely it wasn't cold. The game ended 15-15 but as some will remember there was no OT back then. They
advanced on penetrations but I don't remember what the numbers were.

toddg
11-20-2014, 12:30 PM
The Zebbie Lethridge led Matadors ended my high school football career in 1992 beating us in the qtr. finals 13-7. We played in a blue norther at San Angelo. The roads were predicted to get so bad we had to arrive the day before and stay in a hotel. It was a defensive ball game. Lethridge set up the Matadors 2 TD's with long punt returns.
You still feel that cold chill I bet!

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:10 PM
Estacado QB Jalen Tennison

http://lubbockonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/12662464.jpg

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:12 PM
Tennison is a run threat.

http://lubbockonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/11571602.jpg

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:13 PM
http://lubbockonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/11548578.jpg

jason
11-20-2014, 04:14 PM
Those are sharp uniforms.

BullBoy
11-20-2014, 04:26 PM
That Wylie team went to the fourth round before losing to Prosper in double OT. That Prosper team went on to win
the state championship with a DC that is now our AD/HC.

I remember that, especially prosper. We were the only team to defeat them that year.

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:28 PM
Those are sharp uniforms.

Really? I won't comment on them.

JacketSwarm
11-20-2014, 04:31 PM
I have absolutely no doubt the kids in Stephenville work there butts off year round to prepare to be Champions. That is the only way they could play at such a high level every year. I am sure the defense is not terrible. But when you guys get on here and crow about how unstoppable y'all are it's just not the case. Based solely on statistics and the freakin shootouts Ville has had this season it looks from the outside looking in that it's a major problem. Top tier teams aren't doing that week in and week out. I know you will give me some BS about unstoppable offense and all that other BS. That does not work on any level of football. You can say look at 2012, but deep down you guys know that team played better defense. My only complaint is that it seems to be blasphemy to admit there are holes in your team. For the first time a couple of post ago I saw you say 2012 wasn't going to be replicated. That's the only point I was trying to make. You guys are a top program in the state of Texas. But y'all are allowed to have holes just like everybody else. I think it's still a learning curve because it's taking awhile for the Ville posters to realize they aren't going to drop down and dominate every year. I think the 2012 team just happened to drop at the right time and dominate the first year. Are y'all going to win more championships? Sure you will. Every year and nobody can beat y'all? No way. I'm done running my mouth about Ville (unless I just can't help it) for the rest of the year. Good luck the rest of the way. We will see how it plays out.

man you are just a hater. why you always belittling the JACKETS? must be little man syndrome.dawg



Fire Away

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:32 PM
I remember that, especially prosper. We were the only team to defeat them that year.

What eve happened to Prosper any way? Get lost in the Metromess? lol

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:34 PM
man you are just a hater. why you always belittling the JACKETS? must be little man syndrome.dawg



Fire Away

LOL... I think Dawgs may just be a little frustrated with his team this season.

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:38 PM
Weather for Friday night in Abilene calling for a high of 70* and 10%-20% chance of rain during the day. Winds SSE at 10-20 mph. Rain chances increase throughout the night to 80%.

Should be great weather for the game!

Sweetwater Red
11-20-2014, 04:43 PM
I remember that, especially prosper. We were the only team to defeat them that year.
Yep and y'alls only loss was to Liberty Hill following a great game at Mustang Bowl against Monahans. I was at both.

hollywood
11-20-2014, 04:46 PM
Yep and y'alls only loss was to Liberty Hill following a great game at Mustang Bowl against Monahans. I was at both.

SR, IF both Sweetwater and Celina continue to win, would y'all meet in the Reg finals?

BullBoy
11-20-2014, 04:53 PM
Yep and y'alls only loss was to Liberty Hill following a great game at Mustang Bowl against Monahans. I was at both.

That was a hell of a game, I was there for the Monahans game (you guys have an awesome stadium BTW) felt good to get revenge for the 2006 season when we lost to them at the same place. Sucks that a few of our star players got injured that game, might have been able to give Liberty Hill a better game. Some games you never forget .. :(

slingshot
11-20-2014, 04:54 PM
I remember that, especially prosper. We were the only team to defeat them that year.Actually we defeated them too... then the refs defeated us. On the run that was counted as a two point conversion to give Prosper the one point win in the second overtime--I was on the field, standing at the goal line with a perfect view--our DB stood their QB up and tackled him. He hit the turf at the 1 foot line and bounced to the goal line. The refs all looked at each other for several seconds then one of them belatedly raised his arms to signal it good. Total BS and absolutely cheated our kids out of a chance at a state championship... Oh Well--it's in the past but still stings.

Sweetwater Red
11-20-2014, 04:56 PM
SR, IF both Sweetwater and Celina continue to win, would y'all meet in the Reg finals?

Also known as the state quarter-finals, yes. My guess would be Stephenville based on distance between the
two towns.

Gotta get passed Bridgeport and Vernon first of course. Both are gonna be tough, especially Vernon. They always play
out of their minds against us.

BullBoy
11-20-2014, 04:57 PM
Actually we defeated them too... then the refs defeated us. On the run that was counted as a two point conversion to give Prosper the one point win in the second overtime--I was on the field, standing at the goal line with a perfect view--our DB stood their QB up and tackled him. He hit the turf at the 1 foot line and bounced to the goal line. The refs all looked at each other for several seconds then one of them belatedly raised his arms to signal it good. Total BS and absolutely cheated our kids out of a chance at a state championship... Oh Well--it's in the past but still stings.

I was listening to that game on the radio, it was madness

Sweetwater Red
11-20-2014, 05:07 PM
That was a hell of a game, I was there for the Monahans game (you guys have an awesome stadium BTW) felt good to get revenge for the 2006 season when we lost to them at the same place. Sucks that a few of our star players got injured that game, might have been able to give Liberty Hill a better game. Some games you never forget .. :(

Thanks for the compliment. Fortunately Coach Jackson loved to schedule playoff
games on Thursday nights and it allowed me to catch some really good Friday
night matchups like Bridgeport vs. Monahans I & II.

hollywood
11-20-2014, 05:24 PM
Also known as the state quarter-finals, yes. My guess would be Stephenville based on distance between the
two towns.

Gotta get passed Bridgeport and Vernon first of course. Both are gonna be tough, especially Vernon. They always play
out of their minds against us.

Of course! Yep, Stephenville is about as half way as you could get.. SW to SV 129 mi... CL to SV 138 mi. Mineral Wells could be another option.

I would love to see a double header between Sweetwater/Celina and Stephenville/Graham in Mineral Wells. If SV/AW make it Brownwood. Just day dreaming again.

slingshot
11-20-2014, 05:34 PM
Of course! Yep, Stephenville is about as half way as you could get.. SW to SV 129 mi... CL to SV 138 mi. Mineral Wells could be another option.

I would love to see a double header between Sweetwater/Celina and Stephenville/Graham in Mineral Wells. If SV/AW make it Brownwood. Just day dreaming again.

Something tells me Stephenville would never play a playoff game in Brownwood...

Dawgs
11-20-2014, 06:42 PM
LOL... I think Dawgs may just be a little frustrated with his team this season.

Not at all. Being co-district champs was over achieving IMO. Good luck to Ville the rest of the season.

JacketSwarm - I wasn't hating on y'all's team if you read the post. Gave y'all props, just stated my opinion about the fans. Ville is a top tier program no doubt. Not much else to say.

Good luck against LE.

Deuce
11-20-2014, 07:49 PM
I heard Stidham was playing tomorrow!
















:stirpot::1popcorn:

hollywood
11-20-2014, 08:21 PM
I heard Stidham was playing tomorrow!
















:stirpot::1popcorn:

You mean this guy?
https://hotsportsnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/stephenvillevbigspring_14.jpg

BwdLion73
11-20-2014, 09:07 PM
Something tells me Stephenville would never play a playoff game in Brownwood...

:thumbsup:

hollywood
11-21-2014, 08:22 AM
http://m.yourstephenvilletx.com/sports/momentum-regained-for-yellow-jackets/article_62200437-7803-5a2a-bf14-a2aeced103d8.html?mode=jqm


It’s a necessary aspect to any competitive endeavor, including a high school football team in Texas during playoff season.

Momentum.

And Coach Joseph Gillespie’s Stephenville Yellow Jackets grabbed a large helping of momentum last Friday with a last second, four-overtime bi-district victory over Decatur.

The 66-64 win broke a two-game losing skid, long by Stephenville standards, and sent the ‘Jackets into the next round of the postseason.

“It’s certainly one of those games this team will be remembered for, with everything that went on,” Gillespie said.

The SHS coach said each team has specific defining moments, and last Friday’s battle could be one of those moments for the 2014 ‘Jackets.

“It’s so unique about this game and athletics, this team, this community, the mystique here at Stephenville,” Gillespie said. “There have been games and stories that kind of defines a team.

“Every state championship run, there’s always been that game,” he said. “It may have been Game 1 or Game 5, but somewhere in there is that game. That’s what the Texas High School football playoffs are all about.”

Gillespie said the impetus gained from last week’s game is a crucial mental aspect to preparing for the next game.

“That’s certainly the way we’re going to use it,” he said. “We’ve regained some momentum. We’re going to ride that momentum because, right now, there are no guarantees for next week.

“We guaranteed ourselves a week’s worth of practice and four quarters of football, maybe a little more,” he smiled.

He added that, in his experience, the most successful teams are those that seize the opportunities offered from their momentum.

“The ones that survive the longest are the ones that are gelling at the right time,” he said. “They’re the toughest mentally, physically, and are the hungriest. But you have to have that momentum.”

The Yellow Jackets, 7-3, face another team with some momentum on their side Friday as they take on Lubbock Estacado at 7 p.m. in Abilene’s Shotwell Stadium for the area-round crown.

The Matadors carry a 9-2 mark into the game, including a 68-7 bi-district win over Clint Mountain View.

Jacket97
11-21-2014, 08:30 AM
I am ready to see this one get played out. I am sure once again this week, there will lots of points on the board and it will be another battle to advance to the next round. Safe travels everyone.

here4Villa
11-21-2014, 10:26 AM
It's game day yall!!!! Go 'VILLE!!!!

hollywood
11-21-2014, 01:01 PM
Yep, game day!

I ready, you ready? We ready!

VILLE 42
ECADO 28

toddg
11-21-2014, 01:54 PM
Yep, game day!

I ready, you ready? We ready!

VILLE 42
ECADO 28who they playing again?

hollywood
11-21-2014, 02:39 PM
who they playing again?

Some Lubbock team.. Avacado? ECADO something like that.

Jacket97
11-21-2014, 08:27 PM
Stidham is back...uh oh!

here4Villa
11-21-2014, 08:39 PM
21-7 Ville

Jacket97
11-21-2014, 08:39 PM
There is the unstoppable offense....and defense coming up with 2 big stops. S'ville up 21-7 with 10:51 left in second qtr.

bobcat1
11-21-2014, 09:01 PM
Good to hear QB1 is back.:clap:

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 09:06 PM
nasty hit to the head by Stephenville #80 after the play, ejected from the game

Estacado #4 was injured player, looked like concussion perhaps. He was out on the field for a bit and very dazed walking with help back to sideline.

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 09:07 PM
28-21 Sville, 2:34 left in half

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 09:13 PM
quick Sville reply, 35-21 2:03 in half

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 09:21 PM
Estacado drives and scores to end the half, 35-28 Sville at half

BullBoy
11-21-2014, 09:23 PM
Anyone have a link to where i can listen to this game?

Tejastrue
11-21-2014, 09:25 PM
There is the unstoppable offense....and defense coming up with 2 big stops. S'ville up 21-7 with 10:51 left in second qtr.

hmmmm

D'Highlander
11-21-2014, 09:25 PM
Stephenville putting that wet paper bag D on display again

Tejastrue
11-21-2014, 09:26 PM
Anyone have a link to where i can listen to this game?


KSTV 93.1 FM (http://www.kstvfm.com/)

the Ville 89
11-21-2014, 09:31 PM
nasty hit to the head by Stephenville #80 after the play, ejected from the game

Estacado #4 was injured player, looked like concussion perhaps. He was out on the field for a bit and very dazed walking with help back to sideline.

#4 back in the game. Must have not been as bad as we thought.

BullBoy
11-21-2014, 09:34 PM
KSTV 93.1 FM (http://www.kstvfm.com/)
Thanks!

D'Highlander
11-21-2014, 09:37 PM
LE 300+ yards in the half

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 09:59 PM
Estacado comes right out and scores, EP no good

35-34 Sville 8:06 left in 3rd

we have a ballgame, yall

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 10:06 PM
Sville with the TD, leads 42-34 with 5:50 left in the 3rd

bobcat1
11-21-2014, 10:07 PM
Sounds like last week with Decatur

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 10:18 PM
Estacado with a great drive & TD, went for 2 and did not make it

Sville 42
Estacado 40

1:48 left in the 3rd

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 10:31 PM
Sville scores on a 25 pass play

Sville 49
Estacado 40

11:21 left in game

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 10:41 PM
Estacado with a TD, missed 2 point attempt

Sville 49
Estacado 46

7:55 left in game

wyliegrad04
11-21-2014, 10:48 PM
Sville TD, 17 yd Stidham run

Sville 56
Estacado 46

5:10 left in the ballgame