AP Polls 10/13/14

[WOS87]

Texas AP high school football poll


By The Associated Press
The Associated Press
Here is The Associated Press high school poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, records, points based on 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, and the team's ranking in last week's poll:Class 6A

School Total Points Prv
1. Allen (16) (7-0) 240 1
2. DeSoto (8) (6-0) 227 2
3. Southlake Carroll (6-0) 165 3
4. Euless Trinity (7-0) 145 4
5. Manvel (1) (6-0) 126 6
(tie) Pearland (7-0) 126 5
7. Dallas Skyline (6-0) 103 7
8. Cibolo Steele (6-1) 71 8
9. SA Northside Brennan (7-0) 66 9
10. Denton Guyer (5-1) 42 10
Others receiving votes: 11, Katy 25. 12, Cedar Hill 19. 13, Hewitt Midway 12. 14, The Woodlands 4. 15, Amarillo 2. 15, Lake Travis 2.


Class 5A

School Total Points Prv
1. Aledo (14) (5-1) 230 1
2. Fort Bend Elkins (9) (6-0) 205 2
3. Temple (1) (5-1) 170 3
4. Mansfield Timberview (1) (5-1) 155 4
5. Tyler (5-1) 152 5
6. Fort Bend Ridge Point (6-0) 112 7
7. CC Flour Bluff (6-0) 74 9
8. Georgetown (5-1) 70 8
9. Richmond George Ranch (5-1) 47 NR
10. Ennis (4-2) 36 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Cedar Park 20. 12, Cedar Park Vista Ridge 18. 13, Houston King 16. 14, Lufkin 11. 15, West Mesquite 8. 16, Richmond Foster 7. 17, Mesquite Poteet 6. 17, Hutto 6. 17, EP Del Valle 6. 21, Lancaster 5. 21, Longview 5. 21, Port Neches-Groves 5. 24, Crosby 4. 25, Canutillo 3. 26, Boerne Champion 2. 27, Georgetown East View 1. 27, FW South Hills 1.


Class 4A

School Total Points Prv
1. Navasota (20) (6-0) 243 1
2. Argyle (2) (6-0) 216 2
3. Gilmer (2) (6-0) 209 3
4. Kennedale (1) (6-0) 154 4
5. La Grange (7-0) 137 5
6. Stephenville (5-1) 118 6
7. La Marque (6-1) 76 7
8. Van (6-0) 64 8
9. Atlanta (6-0) 52 10
10. Gladewater (5-1) 47 9
Others receiving votes: 11, La Vernia 16. 12, Port Isabel 13. 13, Sour Lake Hardin-Jefferson 11. 14, West Orange-Stark 6. 15, Celina 4. 16, Andrews 3. 16, Graham 3. 18, Sweetwater 2. 19, Big Spring 1.


Class 3A

School Total Points Prv
1. Cisco (23) (6-0) 244 1
2. Franklin (2) (5-0) 222 2
3. Rockdale (6-0) 176 3
4. Corrigan-Camden (6-0) 155 4
5. Wall (6-1) 147 5
6. Kirbyville (6-0) 118 6
7. Teague (6-0) 109 7
8. Malakoff (6-0) 89 8
9. Waskom (5-1) 62 9
10. Blanco (6-0) 24 10
Others receiving votes: 11, Goliad 9. 12, East Bernard 7. 13, Eastland 6. 14, Coleman 2. 14, Newton 2. 16, Shallowater 1. 16, Spearman 1. 16, Buna 1.


Class 2A

School Total Points Prv
1. Refugio (14) (6-0) 230 1
2. Mart (8) (6-0) 227 2
3. Canadian (1) (6-0) 180 3
4. Bremond (7-0) 161 4
5. Mason (1) (7-0) 134 6
6. Albany (6-0) 130 5
7. Crawford (6-0) 87 8
8. Alto (1) (5-0) 83 9
9. Shiner (5-1) 54 7
10. Iraan (7-0) 37 NR
Others receiving votes: 11, Seagraves 22. 12, Abernathy 13. 13, Stratford 7. 14, Tenaha 4. 15, Booker 2. 15, Hamlin 2. 17, Menard 1.

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That's Entertainment!

[Rocket Man]

Is there a site somewhere that shows what route each place in a district will take during the playoffs?

[Elmo]

Still no love for my Roughnecks?

[Pudlugger]

That's Entertainment!

I think El Campo should be in the top 20 maybe 10, 11 or 12.
And what about Cuero and Columbia?

[44INAROW]

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[WOS87]

I don't think WOS should be there at all. We're awful.

[44INAROW]

I think El Campo should be in the top 20 maybe 10, 11 or 12.
And what about Cuero and Columbia?

Now Pud, we've had this discussion for several years now.... As far as AP and numerous folks are concerned, there is nothing south of IH 10. Therefore, Cuero, El Campo nor Columbia are even a consideration. 😜


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[Pudlugger]

Now Pud, we've had this discussion for several years now.... As far as AP and numerous folks, there is nothing south of IH 10. Therefore, Cuero, El Campo nor Columbia are even a consideration. ��


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I have Cuero going to the semi-final this year.

[WOS87]

...and WOS is south of I-10... by a mile maybe so yeah... put us in there :smoker:

[44INAROW]

...and WOS is south of I-10... by a mile maybe so yeah... put us in there :smoker:

And I missed La Marque. They are in top 10. 🏈. We are just plugging along... Working hard on the BYE week. Lots more football. Going to be interesting......


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Is there a site somewhere that shows what route each place in a district will take during the playoffs?

Pigskin Prep has a thing called "how they would finish" It has the complete brackets projected out and it changes each week depending on that weeks results. Any particular team you're interested in?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

I have Cuero going to the semi-final this year.how bout past the semi :thinking:

[WOS87]

how bout past the semi :thinking:

Region 3 is awful... you should breeze through to Gilmer

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Region 3 is awful... you should breeze through to Gilmer
Region IV is terrible so Region I/Region II should just claim the state title after their matchup

[Rocket Man]

Pigskin Prep has a thing called "how they would finish" It has the complete brackets projected out and it changes each week depending on that weeks results. Any particular team you're interested in?

I'm interested in several D 1 Region 4 teams;
Robinson, China Spring, La Vernia, Burnet, Liberty Hill and La Vega

[Leopardfan201]

Region 3 is awful... you should breeze through to Gilmer cuero will win region 4 however unlikely to beat LG in the state semis

[Leopardfan201]

I'm interested in several D 1 Region 4 teams;
Robinson, China Spring, La Vernia, Burnet, Liberty Hill and La Vega a tough region I tell u that

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I'm interested in several D 1 Region 4 teams;
Robinson, China Spring, La Vernia, Burnet, Liberty Hill and La Vega

They see Robinson losing to La Vernia in the third round and LH losing to LV in the fourth. LV loses to Navasota in the semis.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

They see Robinson losing to La Vernia in the third round and LH losing to LV in the fourth. LV loses to Navasota in the semis.
Rockport Fulton?

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Rockport Fulton?

Rockport beating Kingville King by 17 then losing to LH by 7.

[Tejastrue]

No love for Wimberley. That's okay.

[LV_Bearfan]

Rockport beating Kingville King by 17 then losing to LH by 7.

I think LV may have to beat Rockport a second time this season. They have potential and are improving each week.

[hollywood]

In 4A, all top 10 teams are East Texas teams! :eek:

[Leopardfan201]

East texas is all about speed and big boys that eat good thats y they always win state championship s

[Rocket Man]

In 4A, all top 10 teams are East Texas teams! :eek:

Yes, and the top two teams in each Region, both divisions, are from East Texas. In fact, I think for the last 10-15 years, the State Champions in both Arkansas and Louisiana were from East Texas. :thinking:

[Rocket Man]

They see Robinson losing to La Vernia in the third round and LH losing to LV in the fourth. LV loses to Navasota in the semis.

I think it'd be a good game, providing both make it that far. Thanks for looking it up.

[WOS87]

I'm predicting all 64 playoff teams are from east of I-45 and north of I-10

[OldBison75]

Oh crap--we are west of I45 but north of I10. I guess we will be disqualified.

[Rocket Man]

Oh crap--we are west of I45 but north of I10. I guess we will be disqualified.

I've got an idea; let's petition the UIL to create a West of East Texas Division.

[buckeyebob]

East texas is all about speed and big boys that eat good thats y they always win state championship s

We are small like spider monkeys...do have the speed...and it kills.

[panfan]

They see Robinson losing to La Vernia in the third round and LH losing to LV in the fourth. LV loses to Navasota in the semis.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO................................ We can't lose to Da'Bears. :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::b igcry:

If we aren't beat to a pulp by then, we're gonna give da'bears a run for their money.

[jockcity33]

Pigskin Prep has a thing called "how they would finish" It has the complete brackets projected out and it changes each week depending on that weeks results. Any particular team you're interested in?

Is it worth the $79 to sign up for Pig Skin Prep??

[Sweetwater Red]

Is it worth the $79 to sign up for Pig Skin Prep??

I'm not sb but yes. FWIW they currently have y'all playing Bushland in the first round as
the #3 seed.

[jockcity33]

Thanks for the info. not sure I want to spend the $79 for half a season at this point.

[Sweetwater Red]

Thanks for the info. not sure I want to spend the $79 for half a season at this point.


Oh, if you meant right now then of course it isn't. That would be like paying full price for NFL Sunday Ticket and to only
watch half the season.

[jockcity33]

Oh, if you meant right now then of course it isn't. That would be like paying full price for NFL Sunday Ticket and to only
watch half the season.

so how much would it cost me right now to sign up?

[Sweetwater Red]

so how much would it cost me right now to sign up?

Full price as far as I know.

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Is it worth the $79 to sign up for Pig Skin Prep??

I agree with SR. It's worth it for me. Really clean site with 0 ads or pop ups and easy to navigate. Excellent coverage of standings and scoring etc. and it's strictly HS (all of them), nothing else.

There are some things you can view without the membership. Check it out if you haven't already.

[GobblersUnite]

cuero will win region 4 however unlikely to beat LG in the state semis

Well we might as well not suit up the rest of the season 201. Thanks for the heads up!

[hollywood]

Well we might as well not suit up the rest of the season 201. Thanks for the heads up!

Might as well throw in the towel now. I think he's giving y'all a fightin' chance. That turkey!

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Well we might as well not suit up the rest of the season 201. Thanks for the heads up!

He said on another thread that LG starters haven't played a down in the fourth quarter this year. There you go - simply tell the refs you want to play the fourth quarter first. See how LG handles playing catch up.

[GobblersUnite]

He said on another thread that LG starters haven't played a down in the fourth quarter this year. There you go - simply tell the refs you want to play the fourth quarter first. See how LG handles playing catch up.

Ahh that's how it works! He must have an AP vote as well.

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Ahh that's how it works! He must have an AP vote as well.

Last week he said Carthage would be 5-1 instead of 1-5 if they played a central and south Texas schedule. I didn't ask if he meant Liberty Hill and La Vernia. LOL
Pud might need to have a sit down with him.

[Leopardfan201]

Playing catch up that wont happen till 3 to 4 rounds in.the playoffs

[Leopardfan201]

Last week he said Carthage would be 5-1 instead of 1-5 if they played a central and south Texas schedule. I didn't ask if he meant Liberty Hill and La Vernia. LOL
Pud might need to have a sit down with him. I believe carthage is even or better than liberty hill and la vernia

[44INAROW]

Somebody go find Pud and get him off the cliff - tell him not to jump :) at least 201 has given us something to talk about :1popcorn:

[LV_Bearfan]

He said on another thread that LG starters haven't played a down in the fourth quarter this year. There you go - simply tell the refs you want to play the fourth quarter first. See how LG handles playing catch up.

I'd like to call BS on that "no starters in the 4th" statement, but I'll need Pud to confirm. I didn't come away from the LV/LG game with that impression although LG did go conservative in the 4th to protect the lead.

[LV_Bearfan]

I believe carthage is even or better than liberty hill and la vernia

Oh Leopardfan.......... Pay attention to ol' Pud a while. He knows how to win friends and influence people.

[GobblersUnite]

Somebody go find Pud and get him off the cliff - tell him not to jump :) at least 201 has given us something to talk about :1popcorn:

This is true!

[Leopardfan201]

Lets be honest all tho carthage is having a down year would u want too play them in the playoffs

[HEMOTOXIC]

I believe carthage is even or better than liberty hill and la vernia

Ok, lets try to make this easy for you.

Those teams that Carthage have played thus far are pretty much the same teams that Carthage plays every year for the most. In a normal year, Carthage beats those teams without a doubt. This year, not so much. Why do you feel that Carthage is better than Liberty Hill and La Vernia? Could those teams that have beaten Carthage be that much improved? Yes, but not that improved, IMO. Is Carthage having a down year? Yes, those who follow Carthage have pointed that out some time ago.

I'm trying to understand why you keep bringing Carthage up..?

[waterboy]

Region 3 is awful... you should breeze through to Gilmer

Whoa.., whoa.., whoa.., hold your horses there WOS87! Gladewater is the best team in the state, and they are Region 2. No way Gilmer belongs on the field with them. We will be lucky to make the playoffs.

[hollywood]

I believe carthage is even or better than liberty hill and la vernia

I think we all know Carthage is down in Carthage terms at this point in the season. But never ever EVER count them out. It's still early enough that they can make the turn. Coach Surrat is a great coach and has a very good staff. North Crowley ring a bell?!

[Dawgs]

Ok, lets try to make this easy for you.

Those teams that Carthage have played thus far are pretty much the same teams that Carthage plays every year for the most. In a normal year, Carthage beats those teams without a doubt. This year, not so much. Why do you feel that Carthage is better than Liberty Hill and La Vernia? Could those teams that have beaten Carthage be that much improved? Yes, but not that improved, IMO. Is Carthage having a down year? Yes, those who follow Carthage have pointed that out some time ago.


I'm trying to understand why you keep bringing Carthage up..?

If Carthage played a cupcake schedule in pre-district we could very easily be 5-2 or something like that. Then you would have a bunch of guys mouthing about a team that would no matter their record be a shell of Carthage since 2007. Hemotoxic I will say that up to this point Carthage has played probably the toughest schedule out of any Class 4a team. Kilgore has played a pretty tough schedule too. Even in Carthage's dominant years we have been known to drop a game or two to schools with bigger classifications. I know we are not doing anything that other 4a schools don't do, but when you are consistently pushing weight on the schedule with schools 2 or 3 times your enrollment you are going to drop a few on the way. Even in Carthage best years we would have had atleast one loss, and maybe two with this years schedule. IMO our best team (most complete) was in 2010 when we beat BW. That team got embarrassed by CH early in the season, and dropped another game to Nac. Difference this year and previous years, is we would be playing in about 4th gear right now, ready to switch to OD in the coming weeks. This is not the case this year. We have not improved since the start of the season IMO.

[Dawgs]

I think we all know Carthage is down in Carthage terms at this point in the season. But never ever EVER count them out. It's still early enough that they can make the turn. Coach Surrat is a great coach and has a very good staff. North Crowley ring a bell?!

Guys we are already playing for next season to a certain extent. We can't win very many playoff games with Freshman and Sophomores. This is the first year since Surratt has been here that we do not have D1 athletes in the senior class. On average we have had atleast 5 or 6 future D1 athletes on each of these championship teams. There is no Dwight Smith, Si Blackshire, Jon Jones, Kendall Thompson, Anthony Morgan, Ed Pope, Shun Williams, Jalen Claiborne, Blake Bogenschutz, O Rutherford, or Tee Goree (Not to mention a ton of other players who would be superstars on this team) all of the sudden appear and we are better. Is Surrat one of the best coaches in the state at the 4a level? Yes, I think he is. Has he been blessed with awesome athletes? Yes, for 100% most years our team have better athletes than the opposing teams. Plain and simple. I have been watching Carthage football along time. if Surratt would have been in Carthage we would have been winning Ships along time ago. We are blessed with a good gene pool. We can't stay down that long. It is just a fact. This year is not our year. I am confident that this group of Freshman and Sophomores are going to be special in a couple of years. Next year we could struggle again. End of story. In 2016 we will win another ship. The athletes are there, and hopefully the coaching will still be too. That's right i just crowned the 2016 D1 State Champs. Prolly go back to back 2016 and 2017.

[HEMOTOXIC]

If Carthage played a cupcake schedule in pre-district we could very easily be 5-2 or something like that. Then you would have a bunch of guys mouthing about a team that would no matter their record be a shell of Carthage since 2007. Hemotoxic I will say that up to this point Carthage has played probably the toughest schedule out of any Class 4a team. Kilgore has played a pretty tough schedule too. Even in Carthage's dominant years we have been known to drop a game or two to schools with bigger classifications. I know we are not doing anything that other 4a schools don't do, but when you are consistently pushing weight on the schedule with schools 2 or 3 times your enrollment you are going to drop a few on the way. Even in Carthage best years we would have had atleast one loss, and maybe two with this years schedule. IMO our best team (most complete) was in 2010 when we beat BW. That team got embarrassed by CH early in the season, and dropped another game to Nac. Difference this year and previous years, is we would be playing in about 4th gear right now, ready to switch to OD in the coming weeks. This is not the case this year. We have not improved since the start of the season IMO.

Yes they have had a tough schedule. And, if Carthage gets in the playoffs and goes several rounds, that wouldn't surprise me one bit. I think that for many, it's a shock because we haven't seen the Bulldogs down in years. As you pointed out, like in 2010, you guys managed to turn it around and win state.

Good luck to the Bulldogs. I can say that the Rattlers are looking for another shot at you guys.. In much, much, much warmer weather. lol

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Carthage has only held one opponent to less than 30 and have given up exactly twice as many as they have scored. It's not like they have been losing nail biters. Tough schedule or not, they simply aren't very good. It happens to all good programs from time to time. Think I'll save my Kleenex for another time.

[Dawgs]

Carthage has only held one opponent to less than 30 and have given up exactly twice as many as they have scored. It's not like they have been losing nail biters. Tough schedule or not, they simply aren't very good. It happens to all good programs from time to time. Think I'll save my Kleenex for another time.

Exactly. We haven't even been competitive in most of our games with the exception of Lindale (obviously), 1st half of Nac, and some of the GW game. Yes, save the kleenex. If any Carthage fans want to cry, than they can go to the field house and cry in front of the trophy case.

[Dawgs]

Yes they have had a tough schedule. And, if Carthage gets in the playoffs and goes several rounds, that wouldn't surprise me one bit. I think that for many, it's a shock because we haven't seen the Bulldogs down in years. As you pointed out, like in 2010, you guys managed to turn it around and win state.

Good luck to the Bulldogs. I can say that the Rattlers are looking for another shot at you guys.. In much, much, much warmer weather. lol

Right, it wouldn't surprise me if we make it a couple of rounds deep based on competition. With 4 teams from each district, and the split in DI and DII the playoffs are very watered down. We should not make the playoffs. This is a prime example why taking 4 teams, and IMO the split is bad for TXHSFB. On another note, if yall get the chance for revenge I will be there cheering on the Dawgs win, lose, or draw. I might be doing a little cussing on the way, but I will support them no matter what. I would imagine it would be a far worse beating than we gave yall last year. I hope to see Navasota playing in Jerry's world this season. I would love to see yall BTHO Ville!

[icu812]

Yes, save the kleenex. If any Carthage fans want to cry, than they can go to the field house and cry in front of the trophy case.

LOL that pretty funny right there.

Carthage has had such a great run and you guys have been blessed to able to watch so many talented players over the last decade. I'd trade a few "down" years for championships any day.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Right, it wouldn't surprise me if we make it a couple of rounds deep based on competition. With 4 teams from each district, and the split in DI and DII the playoffs are very watered down. We should not make the playoffs. This is a prime example why taking 4 teams, and IMO the split is bad for TXHSFB. On another note, if yall get the chance for revenge I will be there cheering on the Dawgs win, lose, or draw. I might be doing a little cussing on the way, but I will support them no matter what. I would imagine it would be a far worse beating than we gave yall last year. I hope to see Navasota playing in Jerry's world this season. I would love to see yall BTHO Ville!

I'd like that too.

[hollywood]

Right, it wouldn't surprise me if we make it a couple of rounds deep based on competition. With 4 teams from each district, and the split in DI and DII the playoffs are very watered down. We should not make the playoffs. This is a prime example why taking 4 teams, and IMO the split is bad for TXHSFB. On another note, if yall get the chance for revenge I will be there cheering on the Dawgs win, lose, or draw. I might be doing a little cussing on the way, but I will support them no matter what. I would imagine it would be a far worse beating than we gave yall last year. I hope to see Navasota playing in Jerry's world this season. I would love to see yall BTHO Ville!


I'd like that too.

If it comes down to Sota vs Ville, BTHO Ville ain't going to happen. Sorry to break your dreams. It could be the other way around though. ;)