PDA

View Full Version : La Grange 7-0 @ Caldwell 4-3



Pudlugger
10-11-2014, 07:55 AM
Caldwell always plays tough at home and are a pretty good football team losing close ones to 3 very good teams including Bellville 6-1, Teague 6-0 and Rockdale 6-0. However, the Leopards are rolling now and have a mission. I don't think the Hornets will be able to stop them. Leps by 21.

SintonFan_inAustin
10-11-2014, 08:04 AM
This one might be a good game early, which is good for LG to keep them movitated through district. LG by 20

PappaFeelGood
10-11-2014, 10:04 AM
LG will continue to roll. Kates et al will game plan using our strengths to expose the Caldwell weaknesses. LEP's BY 35. Hutchison has another big night.

HEMOTOXIC
10-11-2014, 11:16 AM
Caldwell is much improved.

Leopards by 14+

Leopardfan201
10-11-2014, 12:00 PM
LG is sumthing special this year no starters have played in the 4th quarter of any of thr games so far and they played a decent schedule its going to take a great team to beat them only team can do it is gilmer I believe

Pudlugger
10-12-2014, 11:17 AM
I think the Hornets run out of the slot t if I remember correctly. The Lep D has been doing well against the slot t so far. Not much noise of the board these days from Caldwell. Bellville won 3-0 in what must have been a very intense defensive stand-off. I don't think the Hornets can hold the Leps under 28 points. We shall see.

zebrablue2
10-12-2014, 07:49 PM
Back to 2010, Caldwell won in OT in Kates 1st yr at La Grange in Caldwell. I will say Leps by 7, going to be a war!!!

Leopardfan201
10-12-2014, 08:08 PM
Back to 2010, Caldwell won in OT in Kates 1st yr at La Grange in Caldwell. I will say Leps by 7, going to be a war!!! yeah a war for the first quarter

Pudlugger
10-12-2014, 08:10 PM
Back to 2010, Caldwell won in OT in Kates 1st yr at La Grange in Caldwell. I will say Leps by 7, going to be a war!!!

I was at that game. Losing in OT was tough. I bet Kates remembers it too. LG by 28. Hornets will have no answer to the Hutchison-Dobbins show.

Yoe_09
10-12-2014, 09:44 PM
La Grange by 28.

LV_Bearfan
10-12-2014, 11:38 PM
[QUOTE=Leopardfan201;1830145]LG is sumthing special this year no starters have played in the 4th quarter of any of thr games so far and they played a decent schedule its going to take a great team to beat them only team can do it is gilmer I

I'll say La Grange by only 28 because they are good sports and have not once played starters in the 4th to secure a victory. ;)

buff4ever
10-13-2014, 07:49 AM
I don't think that Caldwell has a chance to win this game, but how close or reasonably close they can make it will tell the tale of how much better they really are. If LG plays their starters in the fourth quarter, that would be interesting.

Leopardfan201
10-13-2014, 08:45 AM
I think starters rest again in 4th LG 42/19

hookandladder
10-13-2014, 08:50 AM
Back to 2010, Caldwell won in OT in Kates 1st yr at La Grange in Caldwell. I will say Leps by 7, going to be a war!!!

That was a great game in 2010, a shoot out however I do not remember any overtime. Leps by 21

Leopardfan201
10-13-2014, 08:53 AM
LG will not be tested till they see ether la marque or west Orange

hookandladder
10-13-2014, 03:18 PM
I was at that game. Losing in OT was tough. I bet Kates remembers it too. LG by 28. Hornets will have no answer to the Hutchison-Dobbins show.


What game are you guys talking that went into OT, Kates first year was my son's first year on varsity and I do not remember any OT game. The game at Caldwell was a shootout however I do not recall any OT, is my memory getting that bad. The only game I know was OT was Smithville in 2011 and possible Navasota in 2011, not Caldwell.

Pudlugger
10-13-2014, 04:41 PM
What game are you guys talking that went into OT, Kates first year was my son's first year on varsity and I do not remember any OT game. The game at Caldwell was a shootout however I do not recall any OT, is my memory getting that bad. The only game I know was OT was Smithville in 2011 and possible Navasota in 2011, not Caldwell.

You know you're right it wasn't overtime. The reason I misremembered was because the Leps would score and then the Hornets would score again to retake the lead throughout the game. It came down to the final minutes and the Leps tied it up 41-41 but the Hornets scored quickly to go up 48-41. The Leps drove down the field to the red zone and on their last play a pass in the endzone to #9 Wilkerson fell incomplete. At least that is how I remember it.

Leopardfan201
10-13-2014, 05:34 PM
This LG team resembles that 2001 one team we had with chase andrele as qb if I had too rate this team I say thr better than the 09 and 2013 teams we had but that 2000 and 2001 teams r the best LG teams we had

Pudlugger
10-13-2014, 07:38 PM
This LG team resembles that 2001 one team we had with chase andrele as qb if I had too rate this team I say thr better than the 09 and 2013 teams we had but that 2000 and 2001 teams r the best LG teams we had

The 2000 team compares pretty well to this 2014 team but I think the current team defense is better while the offense is at least as good. As for the 2001 team they had, by the time they reached the playoffs, a better defense than 2000 but not as good as this 2014 team. The 2000 offense was better than 2001. I think this team is the best I have watched since 1994 based on a better defense and an offense at least as good or better than 2000. You must also consider the 1997 team with J.K. Dobbins' dad and freshman qb Gunn in the top team list as well. They gave Sealy their only loss in 5 seasons in the regular season game but lost in the semi-final that year. The 2013, 1997 and 2009 teams rank below these top 3.

My ranking:
2014
2000
2001
2013
1997
2009

YTBulldogs
10-13-2014, 07:50 PM
Caldwell is much improved.

Leopards by 14+

I agree, so--Lep's by 30.

37-7.

HEMOTOXIC
10-13-2014, 07:56 PM
What game are you guys talking that went into OT, Kates first year was my son's first year on varsity and I do not remember any OT game. The game at Caldwell was a shootout however I do not recall any OT, is my memory getting that bad. The only game I know was OT was Smithville in 2011 and possible Navasota in 2011, not Caldwell.

2011 @ Navasota did go in to OT. Navasota won on a wheel route.

HEMOTOXIC
10-13-2014, 07:56 PM
I agree, so--Lep's by 30.

37-7.

They're playing in Caldwell... Hopefully, they have stop watering down the field.

Leopardfan201
10-13-2014, 08:31 PM
Caldwell hasen't seen a rushing or defense attack like LG all year

speedbump
10-13-2014, 08:38 PM
Caldwell hasen't seen a rushing or defense attack like LG all year

They have seen Bellvilles defense.

Leopardfan201
10-13-2014, 08:47 PM
They have seen Bellvilles defense. yes not taking anything away from bellville defense but LG is a totally different animal than bellville

speedbump
10-13-2014, 08:55 PM
yes not taking anything away from bellville defense but LG is a totally different animal than bellville

Over all, yes. Defensively Bellville is as good or better.

Pudlugger
10-14-2014, 06:06 AM
Over all, yes. Defensively Bellville is as good or better.

I'm not convinced Speedy. We'll know more after Ftiday night against Wharton's powerful offense. You know the one that put up 21 against El Campo in the second half.

speedbump
10-14-2014, 08:28 AM
I'm not convinced Speedy. We'll know more after Ftiday night against Wharton's powerful offense. You know the one that put up 21 against El Campo in the second half.

We'll know more after Friday night when LG plays Calwells powerful offense. You know the one that Bellville shut out and has averaged 40 pts. against the six opponents not named Bellville.

hookandladder
10-14-2014, 02:46 PM
The 2000 team compares pretty well to this 2014 team but I think the current team defense is better while the offense is at least as good. As for the 2001 team they had, by the time they reached the playoffs, a better defense than 2000 but not as good as this 2014 team. The 2000 offense was better than 2001. I think this team is the best I have watched since 1994 based on a better defense and an offense at least as good or better than 2000. You must also consider the 1997 team with J.K. Dobbins' dad and freshman qb Gunn in the top team list as well. They gave Sealy their only loss in 5 seasons in the regular season game but lost in the semi-final that year. The 2013, 1997 and 2009 teams rank below these top 3.

My ranking:
2014
2000
2001
2013
1997
2009

In my opinion this years team definitely has two of the best RB La Grange has ever seen in the same backfield however the QB play is nowhere near as close as Tye Gunn, so as far as comparing the 2000 team to this years team hands down 2000 overall better team. The line play both ways on the 2000 team were the best ever at LG, this years playoff run will be decided by who can stop the running game of LG. If no one can stop it then they will be fine, LG will not win down the road if they have to pass the ball to win. Yes they can hit a few passes a game but they cannot depend on it if the running game gets shut down. Just my two cents.

regaleagle
10-14-2014, 03:32 PM
Caldwell has played a stout schedule this season....I don't think it was intentional. It just turned out that way and now it's another tough game for their team to get ready for. Some years that's just the way it happens, and the award goes to Caldwell this year, lol. I think the Hornets have a pretty decent team over there, and have been able to score quite a few points even in their losses to some very good teams. They should make the playoffs, no problem....but again this week they will be the underdog against arguably one of the best teams in 4A. If they can stay healthy, Caldwell should be a capable team come playoff time. Do they have a chance to win this week against the Leps? YES, they have a "chance" to upset the Big Dogs in a big challenge at home. LG will have to show up and play their game with very few mistakes. If they do that, LG should win again. But nobody said it would be easy....so this game will require excellence from both sides of the ball from both teams.

Leopardfan201
10-14-2014, 03:39 PM
The speed of LG is the difference maker we proved that against liberty hill and la vernia 2 top 20 teams r two backs r so fast if they get around the corner thr gone

Leopardfan201
10-14-2014, 03:44 PM
In my opinion this years team definitely has two of the best RB La Grange has ever seen in the same backfield however the QB play is nowhere near as close as Tye Gunn, so as far as comparing the 2000 team to this years team hands down 2000 overall better team. The line play both ways on the 2000 team were the best ever at LG, this years playoff run will be decided by who can stop the running game of LG. If no one can stop it then they will be fine, LG will not win down the road if they have to pass the ball to win. Yes they can hit a few passes a game but they cannot depend on it if the running game gets shut down. Just my two cents. I can only name a few teams who might be able to stop our rushing attack one of them is in east texas and the other maybe west Orange and thats a maybe

hookandladder
10-14-2014, 04:29 PM
I can only name a few teams who might be able to stop our rushing attack one of them is in east texas and the other maybe west Orange and thats a maybe

Yes and those are the teams you have to beat to win championships, I am not saying LG is not capable but it will be hard to do without a Tye Gunn type QB. Same thing happened last year, to make a run to the top you have be to loaded and this team is solid but I do not think they are loaded. I hoping they prove me wrong, Coach Kates took some verbal shots when he got the LG job and boy has he proved them all wrong. Just a winner, proven fact. Go Leps.

Leopardfan201
10-14-2014, 05:13 PM
Yes and those are the teams you have to beat to win championships, I am not saying LG is not capable but it will be hard to do without a Tye Gunn type QB. Same thing happened last year, to make a run to the top you have be to loaded and this team is solid but I do not think they are loaded. I hoping they prove me wrong, Coach Kates took some verbal shots when he got the LG job and boy has he proved them all wrong. Just a winner, proven fact. Go Leps. well said like I said whoever can stop our rushing attack but I only see gilmer as the only team that can stop it

Pudlugger
10-14-2014, 06:45 PM
We'll know more after Friday night when LG plays Calwells powerful offense. You know the one that Bellville shut out and has averaged 40 pts. against the six opponents not named Bellville.

We can certainly agree that Bellville's defense is very good. As for Caldwell their averaging 35 points/game on offense and give up 22 on defense. For LG it is 36-6. That does not factor in strength of schedule where LG >>Caldwell. Bellville LG and Caldwell all are playing better football in week 8 than week 1 so comparing scores in the Bellville-Caldwell game is not very useful imo. Good luck to El Campo Friday, I think the Ricebirds will hand Stafford their second loss.

1st and goal
10-14-2014, 07:41 PM
Caldwell is much better than their record suggests. But I'll take the Leps.
I think 2nd place in District will be hard fought between Caldwell and ___________.
:)

Leopardfan201
10-14-2014, 07:51 PM
Caldwell is much better than their record suggests. But I'll take the Leps.
I think 2nd place in District will be hard fought between Caldwell and ___________.
:) Caldwell and Giddings will fight for 2nd place in district but im taking too be 2nd in district

Leopardfan201
10-14-2014, 08:24 PM
I have..1st LG 2nd Caldwell 3rd Giddings 4th smithville 5th salado

hookandladder
10-14-2014, 08:26 PM
Caldwell not gonna hang with LG , they may be improved from last year but they not in LG league this year. Leps win big again this week.

87 TIGER
10-15-2014, 03:24 PM
I haven't seen lg this year, but I have seen Caldwell. The leps should and will take this one, but I'm tellin you the hornets are pretty good. If you let them hang around they can beat ya.

OldBison75
10-15-2014, 04:49 PM
Caldwell is a scrappy team that seems to get really up at home and especially against top teams. I remember a several years ago the Rattlers were expected to roll over a young Caldwell team in district and went to Hornet Stadium and got beat in every phase of the game. Yes, there was a wet field, but, Caldwell brought it and made the Rattlers look like an average team that night. LaGrange is the winner going away on paper, but the game is not played on paper and I expect this will be a great game.

Scoop27
10-15-2014, 05:04 PM
Does Caldwell still have the same field it played on in the 1990's. Went to see East Bernard playoff game there

Leopardfan201
10-15-2014, 05:44 PM
LG speed is different than alot of teams u have to stop the rushing attack of LG that averages at least 300 yards a game I dnt see Caldwell stopping it

Pudlugger
10-16-2014, 02:45 PM
Without a doubt Coach Kates has the team ready for a determined Caldwell in this football game. The Leps will be fired up. This team is on a mission and every game is as important as the next. No team will catch them napping. In almost every game the Leopards struck early and often amassing 2-3 possession leads in the first 6 or 7 minutes of the game. It will be no different Friday. Leps by 28.

hookandladder
10-16-2014, 03:58 PM
I talked to a Smithville coach earlier this week, said they have never seen a kid with that much power and speed and just a sophomore as Dobbins #22. Dobbins is fixing to tear this District apart, I got a feeling the coaches fixin to turn him loose so lookout.

Pudlugger
10-16-2014, 04:43 PM
I talked to a Smithville coach earlier this week, said they have never seen a kid with that much power and speed and just a sophomore as Dobbins #22. Dobbins is fixing to tear this District apart, I got a feeling the coaches fixin to turn him loose so lookout.

Yes #22 is amazing but what is equally amazing is how well he and #5 Hutchison play together. Hutchison is such a huge threat to take it to the house so when they both are lined up in the backfield the defense has to choose which one to key on and that makes it easier for the other to break one long. Hutchison has been very successful up the middle and off tackle not to mention right or left sweeps around the corners. Our offense is so dynamic right now it is exhilarating to watch. I'm really looking forward to tomorrow night's game.

Pudlugger
10-17-2014, 01:43 PM
Game day is finally here. May all travelers tonight be safe and may these boys play a clean injury free game. Go Leps!

PappaFeelGood
10-17-2014, 07:10 PM
LG is filling the stadium. Looking a little sparse across the way. Go LEPS.

PappaFeelGood
10-17-2014, 07:44 PM
7-0 LEPS. Scores on first possession.

PappaFeelGood
10-17-2014, 07:52 PM
14-0 LEPS. Dobbins from 40 yds.

PappaFeelGood
10-17-2014, 08:03 PM
21-0 LG. 1:33 in first quarter.

PappaFeelGood
10-17-2014, 08:56 PM
35-21 LEPS at the half.

44INAROW
10-17-2014, 09:11 PM
Sounds like an exciting 2nd Qtr


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

LGfrog
10-17-2014, 10:39 PM
score?

PappaFeelGood
10-17-2014, 10:46 PM
56-27 LG final.

PappaFeelGood
10-17-2014, 10:48 PM
Correction: 56-34 final La Grange. Sorry -- forgot about the score the refs gave Caldwell.

Leopardfan201
10-17-2014, 11:03 PM
Caldwell has sum serious speed good team

PappaFeelGood
10-18-2014, 12:18 AM
LG turned the ball over twice in the second quarter. Caldwell capitalized and scored on both. Then in the third quarter turned it over once again inside the twenty and the Hornets scored.

zebrablue2
10-18-2014, 12:26 AM
Correction: 56-34 final La Grange. Sorry -- forgot about the score the refs gave Caldwell.

Gotta luv them refs, and BTW, they are always right:)

Pudlugger
10-18-2014, 12:39 AM
LG turned the ball over twice in the second quarter. Caldwell capitalized and scored on both. Then in the third quarter turned it over once again inside the twenty and the Hornets scored.

Yeah this game should never have been this close. But the Leps have played pretty much error free football until now so maybe they have gotten it out of their system. On a brighter note I have to say Dobbins just amazes me. He made some wicked moves tonight and must have racked up close to 200 yards rushing plus a circus catch where he jumped up 4 feet to make the catch in tight coverage on the 5. Hutchison was awesome as well especially on defense sucking up the Caldwell running backs like he did. On offense he powered up the middle and off tackle much like Filmore did last year. Rigden was a workhorse on defense pretty much shutting down the Hornet receivers all night. Perfect 8 for 8 on PATs and 50-60 yard KOs. The only blemish on special teams tonight was the high snap on the punt giving the Hornets the ball on the 14 yardline. Three turnovers (two fumbles and an interception) in the red zone plus the high snap accounted for 28 points for Caldwell. We will not be able to win deep in the playoffs with those mistakes. Back to work for the big game to decide the DC hosting Giddings Friday.

Leopardfan201
10-18-2014, 12:53 AM
Caldwell this most speed LG played all year. And LG handle it well at times

WOS1
10-18-2014, 01:40 AM
What kind of offense does LG run?

Leopardfan201
10-18-2014, 01:43 AM
I formation and pistol

Leopardfan201
10-18-2014, 01:45 AM
Good game LG but need to handle the speed better than tonight. Caldwell scored on 3 turnovers of LG should. Of been 56/20

Tejastrue
10-18-2014, 02:00 AM
I find this funny...

WOS87
10-18-2014, 02:17 AM
Hmmm... it's just an off-week. La Grange will DEFINITELY still win D2 Region 3 :cool: You are still the favorites. La Marque only has HISD left so they won't be tested and/or prepared for the playoffs and WOS will DEFINITELY lose to Hardin-Jefferson. Good win though. Gratz! Didn't Bellville shutout Caldwell though earlier this season?

Pudlugger
10-18-2014, 08:04 AM
[QUOTE=WOS87;1832431]Hmmm... it's just an off-week. La Grange will DEFINITELY still win D2 Region 3 :cool: You are still the favorites. La Marque only has HISD left so they won't be tested and/or prepared for the playoffs and WOS will DEFINITELY lose to Hardin-Jefferson. Good win though. Gratz! Didn't Bellville shutout Caldwell though earlier this season?[/QUOTE

Yes in game one 3-0. Everyone has grown since then though. That being said, Bellville must have a pretty stout defense. Congratulations to the Mustangs on putting away a feisty Orangefield team last night. The season gets more interesting each week, no?

Leopardfan201
10-18-2014, 08:21 AM
[QUOTE=WOS87;1832431]Hmmm... it's just an off-week. La Grange will DEFINITELY still win D2 Region 3 :cool: You are still the favorites. La Marque only has HISD left so they won't be tested and/or prepared for the playoffs and WOS will DEFINITELY lose to Hardin-Jefferson. Good win though. Gratz! Didn't Bellville shutout Caldwell though earlier this season?[/QUOTE

Yes in game one 3-0. Everyone has grown since then though. That being said, Bellville must have a pretty stout defense. Congratulations to the Mustangs on putting away a feisty Orangefield team last night. The season gets more interesting each week, no?

I give Caldwell sum props they utilize thr speed against LG. LG had trouble with it but im glad LG played speed finally

hookandladder
10-18-2014, 08:55 AM
Looks like Caldwell may have fun them a good coach, sounds like they have LG a decent game. I beleive this was exactly what LG needed, starters playing whole game and maybe found some areas that need improving. Glad to see Caldwell improving, good luck to them . Keep working hard LG.

Pudlugger
10-18-2014, 08:56 AM
[QUOTE=Pudlugger;1832441]

I give Caldwell sum props they utilize thr speed against LG. LG had trouble with it but im glad LG played speed finally

You might recall Yoakum has good speed Leopardfan. LG can handle good speed. What they cannot handle is turnovers inside the red zone(3) and blunders like a high snap on a punt giving a 1st and goal to the opponent. 21 points from these mistakes. That is the difference between our performance against Yoakum and Caldwell two pretty evenly matched teams in speed and talent.

Leopardfan201
10-18-2014, 09:11 AM
[QUOTE=Leopardfan201;1832443]

You might recall Yoakum has good speed Leopardfan. LG can handle good speed. What they cannot handle is turnovers inside the red zone(3) and blunders like a high snap on a punt giving a 1st and goal to the opponent. 21 points from these mistakes. That is the difference between our performance against Yoakum and Caldwell two pretty evenly matched teams in speed and talent.

Props too LG Caldwell is the fastest team we played all year and impressed by LG, all tho they have 3 turnovers inside thr own 20 to give Caldwell a short field, and LG still able too beat them by 22. The defense only allowed Caldwell too drive the field twice good defense LG

WOS1
10-18-2014, 09:44 AM
LG doesn't throw it much?

Pudlugger
10-18-2014, 09:47 AM
LG doesn't throw it much?

About 25% of the time.

PappaFeelGood
10-18-2014, 10:01 AM
Take away the turnovers and this is not even a contest. We forget LG was up 28-0 before the turnovers in the 2nd Q. As I was leaving the stadium three obvious Hornet fans (male) were huddled up talking. I just happen to hear one of them say "AT LEAST WE GOT IN THEIR HEAD". Hornet fan please, is that the best you got.

Leopardfan201
10-18-2014, 10:17 AM
Take away the turnovers and this is not even a contest. We forget LG was up 28-0 before the turnovers in the 2nd Q. As I was leaving the stadium three obvious Hornet fans (male) were huddled up talking. I just happen to hear one of them say "AT LEAST WE GOT IN THEIR HEAD". Hornet fan please, is that the best you got.

Caldwell could be a dangerous team come post season bcs of thr speed I say they go 2 rounds at least. But LG amazed speed maybe one of the fastest teams in 4A

Pudlugger
10-18-2014, 10:30 AM
Caldwell could be a dangerous team come post season bcs of thr speed I say they go 2 rounds at least. But LG amazed speed maybe one of the fastest teams in 4A

Lepfan did you see how Hutchison sucked up that Hornet rb on his long jaunt down the left sideline in the 3rd? That Caldwell kid did have good speed but Hutchison caught him from the right hash mark to the left sideline on an acute angle. That was real speed imo.