Houston Texans at Dallas Cowboys on Sunday

[Scoop27]

Any takes on this big game
I'm a Texans fan but have to go with the Cowboys

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Any takes on this big game
I'm a Texans fan but have to go with the Cowboys

Then you are not a true Texans fan. I'm going with my Texans 100% GO TEXANS!

[Saggy Aggie]

Texans. Cowpies are due for an impolosion. No better team to do it against

[cougartino]

No free slushies next Tuesday Suxans fans.

[Macarthur]

I'm still worried about the Cowboys defense. They are still one of the worst teams in the league at yards per play and sacks. Those are two pretty good indicators of how well your defense is playing. I think the Cowboys win, but none of us should be surprised if Houston wins it.

[pancho villa]

Anybody that is a Cowgirl fan is a blatant %$@%@#!&

[Rabid Cougar]

Anybody that is a Cowgirl fan is a blatant %$@%@#!&

Spoken like a true Pretend Oiler fan!

[pancho villa]

Spoken like a true Pretend Oiler fan!

The two teams I want to win each week. 1. Texans 2. Whoever is playing the Cowgirls.

[scrub c]

The two teams I want to win each week. 1. Texans 2. Whoever is playing the Cowgirls.


you are probably just a disgruntled vikings fan...

[whitelightning5]

I'm a Texan fan, but I think the Cowboy's will be too much. I'm hoping for a different outcome. With a healthy Arian and AJ, we could at least put some pressure on the Cowboy's D. That said, if we have to rely on Fitzpatrick to win the game...my confidence goes down...lol. He is either really on or really off. That has been his MO his entire career. I just have to hope the best version plays this Sunday. I can see Dallas running the ball down our throats. They won't be as stupid as Buffalo was last week and abandon the run.

[1st and goal]

I'm a Texan fan, but I think the Cowboy's will be too much. I'm hoping for a different outcome. With a healthy Arian and AJ, we could at least put some pressure on the Cowboy's D. That said, if we have to rely on Fitzpatrick to win the game...my confidence goes down...lol. He is either really on or really off. That has been his MO his entire career. I just have to hope the best version plays this Sunday. I can see Dallas running the ball down our throats. They won't be as stupid as Buffalo was last week and abandon the run.

Also depends on which Cowboy team shows up. It won't be a walk in the park for either team. Think I'll go with Dallas by 3.
Watt=super human, Fitzpatrick= cold or luke warm.
Romo= who knows?
What do the vegas boyz have the odds at? Cowboys show signs of improvement on D. They need to get their "No name" Defense back.

[whitelightning5]

Also depends on which Cowboy team shows up. It won't be a walk in the park for either team. Think I'll go with Dallas by 3.
Watt=super human, Fitzpatrick= cold or luke warm.
Romo= who knows?
What do the vegas boyz have the odds at? Cowboys show signs of improvement on D. They need to get their "No name" Defense back.

The lined opened with the Cowboys as 3.5 point favorites and that climbed to 6 point favorites.

[toddg]

Dallas OLine better eat their Wheaties..JJ Watt is a freakin F5 tornado!

[Bullaholic]

Cowboys are easy to predict these days---if they run the ball pretty well for close to 100yds and the defense is able to get 2 or more stops a half = WIN.
40+ passes, 3 sacks and 5-6 hurries or more, or 2 fumbles lost/picks= LOSS

Of course, I guess this same prediction could be made for any NFL team if you get right down to it....:D

[Roughneck93]

Lol, from @NFL....

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h419/trueblue74/c92556813dd73855e131feb7443f244a.jpg

[regaleagle]

My son and his UH college buddy had tickets to the game, but now it will be the Ebola Bowl....so they put the tickets up for sale on Stub Hub. No sense taking chances at this point. It takes 2-21 days for the virus to incubate.

[Saggy Aggie]

LOL,

You guys realize it's a virus and not a bacteria, right? You guys do know the difference between a virus and bacteria, right?

You do know that someone WITH VISUAL SYMPTOMS literally has to spit, bleed, vomit or skeet on you for you to contract it, right?

Nevermind all that though. Hit the panic button!

[regaleagle]

Not according to some scientific experiments done in Canada. The virus is supposedly able to be transmitted airborne with droplets in the air from coughing, sneezing, nose-blowing, etc. With 70,000+ people in the stadium, better to just watch it safely on TV at the house. Mainstream Media is trying to downplay this pandemic as being controlled and contained, but that is just not the case in the African nations right now. Do your due diligence before speaking like an expert on a subject you know nothing about.

[regaleagle]

Listening to what MSM wants to report to the masses is like listening to fairy tales, lol. Alternative media sites available all over the internet, sites not controlled by the Elites and TPTB, will in most instances have newsworthy reports almost juxtaposed to what the MSM in this country reports concerning same newsworthy events.

[BwdLion73]

LOL,

You guys realize it's a virus and not a bacteria, right? You guys do know the difference between a virus and bacteria, right?

You do know that someone WITH VISUAL SYMPTOMS literally has to spit, bleed, vomit or skeet on you for you to contract it, right?

Nevermind all that though. Hit the panic button!

I wonder if the NBC cameraman got spit on?

[regaleagle]

I wonder if the NBC cameraman got spit on?

Air droplets include being "breathed" on....if in close enough proximity of the vapor cloud the droplets are suspended in. That's what airborne means.

[regaleagle]

Of course, my son and his buddy could always go to the game decked out in their hazmat suits...complete with goggles, respirator mask, booties, and gloves.

[Saggy Aggie]

Not according to some scientific experiments done in Canada. The virus is supposedly able to be transmitted airborne with droplets in the air from coughing, sneezing, nose-blowing, etc. With 70,000+ people in the stadium, better to just watch it safely on TV at the house. Mainstream Media is trying to downplay this pandemic as being controlled and contained, but that is just not the case in the African nations right now. Do your due diligence before speaking like an expert on a subject you know nothing about.

There are something like 10K people in DFW alone who have been in Liberia recently.... A grand total of 1 person had it. The same guy who was in direct contact with a person dying of ebola...

And yeah, it's not controlled in Africa because it's frickin AFRICA... Lol... No civilized healthcare infrastructure whatsoever

Also, I have no clue what Canadian study you're referring to. I Looked it up and all I can find is possible transmission through the air between pigs and monkeys. The same article says that's not the case for humans. I'd love to read your reference.

In the mean time, I think I'll hit the panic button some more

[regaleagle]

Many of those Liberians in the DFW area were already living here before this pandemic went out of control. Most have been here several years.

[BwdLion73]

I drove through Dallas today. Kept my windows up and tried not to take too many breath's. Made it back to Brownwood and started .drinking cheap whiskey to counter-act anything.

[regaleagle]

Reading that colloidal silver is the supposed element that can be taken to help repel the effects of this disease. Some say the CDC has been instructed to keep that fact mum to the masses. There's a whole lot more attached to this Ebola break-out than meets the eye....when everything going on in the world is all taken into account.

[1st and goal]

Saggy, 1 thing is FOR SURE, they'll say whatever they think they need to say to stave off pandemonium. You know how those folks (like Pancho Villa) are if they are worried about where they are going to get their next breakfast taco.

[buff4ever]

Cowboys win, Texans are still just the other team in Texas.

[whitelightning5]

Cowboys win, Texans are still just the other team in Texas.

Spoken like a Longhorn fan.

[Cam]

Reading that colloidal silver is the supposed element that can be taken to help repel the effects of this disease. Some say the CDC has been instructed to keep that fact mum to the masses. There's a whole lot more attached to this Ebola break-out than meets the eye....when everything going on in the world is all taken into account.

Colloidal silver is good for lots of things.....first heard about it many years ago while living in Dallas.....

[Cam]

I drove through Dallas today. Kept my windows up and tried not to take too many breath's. Made it back to Brownwood and started .drinking cheap whiskey to counter-act anything.

....or at least that was your excuse to the Mrs. just so you could get plastered!.....

[Roughneck93]

Murray and his fumbles....:dispntd:

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Murray and his fumbles....:dispntd:
yay its back to a football thread :)

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Lol, from @NFL....

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h419/trueblue74/c92556813dd73855e131feb7443f244a.jpgLOL nice picture

[Saggy Aggie]

Nice defensive game.

Cowboys hurting themselves with fumbles and penalties on special teams.

Texans getting a lot of pressure but Romo making all the right reads...

Cowboys D playing well so far

[defense51]

Colloidal silver is good for lots of things.....first heard about it many years ago while living in Dallas.....
When I had a hole in my leg, the wound care doctors packed it with gauze soaked in colloidal silver.

[defense51]

Murray and his fumbles....:dispntd:

Four and counting, all turnover!

[eagleqb_14]

defense showed up atleast

[Saggy Aggie]

Texans offense is atrocious

[Roughneck93]

Yikes....

[Saggy Aggie]

Texans offense is atrocious

Lol, reverse psychology

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Lol, reverse psychology
Say something bad about the cowboys, it usually back fires right away!!!!! plz put Romo in it

[Roughneck93]

Awesome.....

[bearbear78]

HAILLLL of a play

[eagleqb_14]

JJ who?

[Saggy Aggie]

So many Texans fans there....

[SintonFan_inAustin]

So many Texans fans there....
A lot of unhappy fans there

[Saggy Aggie]

A lot of unhappy fans there

Don't get ahead of yourself just yet

[Roughneck93]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2326066/wattnomatch4romo.0.gif

[defense51]

I like Dwayne Harris, that dude is explosive.

[Roughneck93]

:clap:

[Saggy Aggie]

Offensive PI????

[Macarthur]

Offensive PI????

Did not extend his arms.

[defense51]

Offensive PI????

Nope :hand:

[Farmersfan]

Did not extend his arms.


The defensive holding was more obvious than the offensive push off......... Can't see the defender crying about that.

[toddg]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2326066/wattnomatch4romo.0.gif

thats what happens when you dont wrap up..right JJ!!

[Saggy Aggie]

Did not extend his arms.

Are you kidding me? They just showed another replay of it and it looked even worse from that angle this time

[toddg]

Are you kidding me? They just showed another replay of it and it looked even worse from that angle this time
of course it did....

[Macarthur]

Are you kidding me? They just showed another replay of it and it looked even worse from that angle this time

Even the official on tv said it was not a push off.

[Macarthur]

If you don't extend the arms, they are most likely never going to call that.

[Farmersfan]

I calling that a BS offensive possession for Dallas. With the game on the line the offense MUST execute. And it all starts with the QB. How the hell do you get a delay penalty after a timeout????? Can you say brain fart?

[bearbear78]

Not even close to a push off....may wanna get rid of the projector from the 70s and get new tv

[Macarthur]

Bad sequence by romo.

[bearbear78]

Gonna give it away so it doesnt matter

[Saggy Aggie]

Here comes the romo int

[Gen.Pat]

Go Cowboys.

[Farmersfan]

what the hell is up with these 5 yard passes???????????

[Diocletian]

Here comes the romo int

You can tell he's nervous. Dump offs and high throws.

[Manso/V8]

When I had a hole in my leg, the wound care doctors packed it with gauze soaked in colloidal silver.

Silver coumpounds like silver nitrate are more common for dressings.

[Manso/V8]

Time to try the kick.......53 yarder?

[Saggy Aggie]

Nice drive by romo anyway you look at it

[Saggy Aggie]

what the hell is up with these 5 yard passes???????????

He got the cowpies in position for the win....

[Manso/V8]

Quick someone perform the Heimlick on the kicker.

[Saggy Aggie]

Texans will receive

[regaleagle]

I hope Romo took some colloidal silver water before the overtime, lol.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Texans will receive
lol nice play calling on 3rd down

[Farmersfan]

Because they fear Romo the Cowboys will go 3 runs and punt...

[regaleagle]

I'm waiting for the colloidal silver to kick in......

[Roughneck93]

Wow, what a catch....

[regaleagle]

So it was Dez that drank it, not Romo, lol.

[Manso/V8]

Kind of a nice catch.

[Saggy Aggie]

Dez with the dirty catch on 3rd and long. Probable game winning catch... Wow

[Saggy Aggie]

Nice game pies

[Roughneck93]

Redemption....

[regaleagle]

Nice kick.

[Macarthur]

What a play by dez. Wow.

[Macarthur]

Ugly win.

[YTBulldogs]

Should be a yearly event, like Texas/a&m, Yoakum/Cuero.

[Roughneck93]

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2326154/dez.0.gif

[defense51]

Ugly win.

Emphasis on win! :cheerl:

[Bullaholic]

Nice win for the Cowboys. Dez may have made the game-winning play and catch but this game was won again of the back of Murray----fumbles and all.

[Saggy Aggie]

Minus the one int, romo played a really nice game. Made all the right reads and set his team up to win it twice

[Macarthur]

Minus the one int, romo played a really nice game. Made all the right reads and set his team up to win it twice

You know, I agree. His int was pretty bad but he took a few wicked shots today. That play against watt for the TD was special. Not many guys in the league make that play.

[cougartino]

You win by scoring one more point than your opponent, in any manner you can get it. I don't care if it were an OT win. We won! Best stats of the game to me:

JJ Watt
0 sacks
0 batted balls

The best "JJ W" of the game was JJ Wilcox.

[bobcat1]

This is hilarious. I like Frederick's mean streak. http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/cowboys-travis-frederick-swats-ball-away-from-celebrating-houston-texans-player.html/

[Macarthur]

This is hilarious. I like Frederick's mean streak. http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/cowboys-travis-frederick-swats-ball-away-from-celebrating-houston-texans-player.html/

Love the way this OL is developing an attitude. They are legit.

[cougartino]

Love the way this OL is developing an attitude. They are legit.

Yeah, I gotta agree. Even ol' Doug Free had a good game. Don't get me wrong, JJ Watt is a great talent. But he's like any other man. He puts on one pants leg at a time and he can be beaten. Glad to see the Cowboys were not going to be intimidated.

[Saggy Aggie]

JJ was still really disruptive and causing a lot of pressure, but romo and the OL handled it well and didn't let him completely dominate the LOS.

They basically did what every team wants to do to JJ and that's just minimize his impact. I think it was pretty obvious JJ was nowhere close to 100% out there though....

[Macarthur]

Yeah, you could tell he wasn't 100%.

[caleb_mccaig]

Yeah, you could tell he wasn't 100%.

How many guys in the NFL are 100%?

No excuse, great players make an impact no matter how many guys they have blocking/covering them. Watt is a good player, but great? No. A great player doesn't let his team go 2-14, they motivate the team around them and make everyone better, something he has been unable to prove that he can do at this point in his career.

[Macarthur]

How many guys in the NFL are 100%?

No excuse, great players make an impact no matter how many guys they have blocking/covering them. Watt is a good player, but great? No. A great player doesn't let his team go 2-14, they motivate the team around them and make everyone better, something he has been unable to prove that he can do at this point in his career.

I think this is a bit much. Watt is a great player.

[caleb_mccaig]

I think this is a bit much. Watt is a great player.

I think it's saying a bit much at the high school or even the collegiate level, but in the NFL where every player is supposedly an elite athlete/player, the great ones make everyone around them better and play at a high level. The Oakland Raiders who I think have zero great players, other than Charles Woodson who sucks now, were even able to to string out a few more wins with, IMO, a much worse team.

[Macarthur]

I think it's saying a bit much at the high school or even the collegiate level, but in the NFL where every player is supposedly an elite athlete/player, the great ones make everyone around them better and play at a high level. The Oakland Raiders who I think have zero great players, other than Charles Woodson who sucks now, were even able to to string out a few more wins with, IMO, a much worse team.

Watt can't play QB. Did you watch Fitzs play?

[Macarthur]

And what is Watt supposed to do about his coach going brain dead with his play calling in OT?

[caleb_mccaig]

And what is Watt supposed to do about his coach going brain dead with his play calling in OT?

If he makes the tackle on Romo on the hail mary then there likely isn't overtime at all.

[Macarthur]

Dang, dude. Football is the ultimate team sport. 53 guys play offense, defense and ST. You think Watt was the reason Houston didn't win?

[cougartino]

If he makes the tackle on Romo on the hail mary then there likely isn't overtime at all.

I hear what you're saying but you can play that game all day. If Demarco had not fumbled, if Williams would not have dropped that ball on the 2, if Romo had seen the safety, this probably would have been a 14 or 17 point win for the Cowboys. Watt's a great player. To me it's a testimony of how well the Cowboys O-line played, and Romo's ability to escape. Good game by both teams. Just happy my team won.

[Macarthur]

I hear what you're saying but you can play that game all day. If Demarco had not fumbled, if Williams would not have dropped that ball on the 2, if Romo had seen the safety, this probably would have been a 14 or 17 point win for the Cowboys. Watt's a great player. To me it's a testimony of how well the Cowboys O-line played, and Romo's ability to escape. Good game by both teams. Just happy my team won.

bingo!

[caleb_mccaig]

Dang, dude. Football is the ultimate team sport. 53 guys play offense, defense and ST. You think Watt was the reason Houston didn't win?

That's obvious lol. What I'm saying is that how many "great" players, no matter position, allowed their team's to be the worst in the league? Demarcus Ware never allowed that to happen to Dallas and they have had some BAD teams over the last few years. Great players rally the team and make everyone around them better, something that Watt I don't think has shown the ability to do. I'm just saying that no matter the sport, there are some guys who are, "greats" and they prove it by not being on the worst team in the league when they're in their supposed prime. You can say he's the best defensive player in the league, but what does that truly mean when he was on the worst team in the NFL in the last completed season?

[Macarthur]

That's obvious lol. What I'm saying is that how many "great" players, no matter position, allowed their team's to be the worst in the league? Demarcus Ware never allowed that to happen to Dallas and they have had some BAD teams over the last few years. Great players rally the team and make everyone around them better, something that Watt I don't think has shown the ability to do. I'm just saying that no matter the sport, there are some guys who are, "greats" and they prove it by not being on the worst team in the league when they're in their supposed prime. You can say he's the best defensive player in the league, but what does that truly mean when he was on the worst team in the NFL in the last completed season?

Are you kidding? Ware played on a couple of historically bad defenses. Worst in the history of this franchise. lol.

[caleb_mccaig]

Are you kidding? Ware played on a couple of historically bad defenses. Worst in the history of this franchise. lol.

I'm pretty sure last year's defense was the worst defense, Yards per game wise, in the history of the NFL. Did they go 2-14? Nope, because they had emotional leaders like D-Ware, Romo and Dez.

[GrTigers6]

That's obvious lol. What I'm saying is that how many "great" players, no matter position, allowed their team's to be the worst in the league? Demarcus Ware never allowed that to happen to Dallas and they have had some BAD teams over the last few years. Great players rally the team and make everyone around them better, something that Watt I don't think has shown the ability to do. I'm just saying that no matter the sport, there are some guys who are, "greats" and they prove it by not being on the worst team in the league when they're in their supposed prime. You can say he's the best defensive player in the league, but what does that truly mean when he was on the worst team in the NFL in the last completed season?
Barry Sanders was a great player and how many awful teams did he play on. One man can not change a team from 2-14 to 14-2. Or even 8-8. Sometimes all a poor performing team needs is a good pick up speech but usually if a team is 2-14 then there is a reason beyond one player making them play better.

[coach]

He shuts up when the cowboys play good. When things get shaky he comes out. Where I am from, we call that chicken sh!t.

[caleb_mccaig]

Barry Sanders was a great player and how many awful teams did he play on. One man can not change a team from 2-14 to 14-2. Or even 8-8. Sometimes all a poor performing team needs is a good pick up speech but usually if a team is 2-14 then there is a reason beyond one player making them play better.

What was the key differences between those two Houston teams that went to the playoffs and last year's?

[whitelightning5]

I'm pretty sure last year's defense was the worst defense, Yards per game wise, in the history of the NFL. Did they go 2-14? Nope, because they had emotional leaders like D-Ware, Romo and Dez.

I tell you what. Keep those emotional leaders (except D-Ware for obvious reasons) and stay at 8-8. If you go 8-8 and miss the playoffs every year I guess that's OK with you.

I, on the other hand, will keep Watt. He and Cushing are emotional enough for me. We had a bad season, but we've had more success than failure with those 2 leaders. Last I checked, thats still better than mediocrity.

It's amazing to me that none of these Cowboy fans wanted to run their mouths when the Texans were actually having success. Last year the Texans had a bad year and here they come full force with crap spewing from their mouths. Throw around an 8-8 record like its an acheivement. Yes its better than 2-14, but still doesnt mean anything in the grand scheme of things. No division title, no playoffs. You were watching the playoffs just like me. Congrats. You beat the Texans by 3 in a hard fought game on both sides. We can shoulda, woulda, coulda this game to death. It just won't have an impact on the outcome.

[whitelightning5]

What was the key differences between those two Houston teams that went to the playoffs and last year's?

Turnovers. Next question.

[bobcat1]

He shuts up when the cowboys play good. When things get shaky he comes out. Where I am from, we call that chicken sh!t.

Coach, LOL who are you talking about?? FF?

[caleb_mccaig]

I tell you what. Keep those emotional leaders (except D-Ware for obvious reasons) and stay at 8-8. If you go 8-8 and miss the playoffs every year I guess that's OK with you.

I, on the other hand, will keep Watt. He and Cushing are emotional enough for me. We had a bad season, but we've had more success than failure with those 2 leaders. Last I checked, thats still better than mediocrity.

It's amazing to me that none of these Cowboy fans wanted to run their mouths when the Texans were actually having success. Last year the Texans had a bad year and here they come full force with crap spewing from their mouths. Throw around an 8-8 record like its an acheivement. Yes its better than 2-14, but still doesnt mean anything in the grand scheme of things. No division title, no playoffs. You were watching the playoffs just like me. Congrats. You beat the Texans by 3 in a hard fought game on both sides. We can shoulda, woulda, coulda this game to death. It just won't have an impact on the outcome.


Hope those two playoff wins sit well in Houston. Historically, it took Houston longer to make the playoffs than any other expansion franchise in the NFL. So congrats, technically Houston was the worst expansion franchise in the history of the NFL, and that list includes the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Every franchise goes through rebuilding, you're about to see it with New England.

Any other negative thoughts on Dallas just bounce off the Lombardi trophies all the fans have next to their ears.

[Saggy Aggie]

That's obvious lol. What I'm saying is that how many "great" players, no matter position, allowed their team's to be the worst in the league? Demarcus Ware never allowed that to happen to Dallas and they have had some BAD teams over the last few years. Great players rally the team and make everyone around them better, something that Watt I don't think has shown the ability to do. I'm just saying that no matter the sport, there are some guys who are, "greats" and they prove it by not being on the worst team in the league when they're in their supposed prime. You can say he's the best defensive player in the league, but what does that truly mean when he was on the worst team in the NFL in the last completed season?

Didn't Calvin Johnson and the lions go 0-16? Just because you're a HOF caliber player, doesn't mean the team around you isn't absolute sh*t. Texans were ravaged with injuries last year and QBs who threw pick6s every game. Texans next 4 best players were all hurt last year: cushing, andre, Arian, Jonathan Joseph, etc

What do you want watt to do about that?

Not only is JJ a great player, he's the best defensive player in the league. You could argue he is the best overall player in the league as well.

[OldBison75]

I have been a Cowboys fan all of my 57 years on this earth and I will tell you that I am also a big fan of JJ Watt, Brian Cushing, and Andre Johnson. I have not gotten into this huge rivalry between the Texans and Cowboys, but there is no doubt in my mind that last years poor season by the Texans had nothing to do with the play of any of those three. It was a total system failure and some damned good NFL players are getting a bad rap.

This year the Cowboys have finally decided to concentrate on a running game that is producing good results and opening up some opportunities in the passing game. But, there is alot of season left and I reserve the right to gripe if they decide to change and become the same old November and December Cowboys of past years. I will also say that I believe the Texans will be a contender in their division. They have the personnel to be competitive every week.

The game yesterday was a great game for the fans of both sides and to minimize the effort of both teams is an insult to the game. Watt was double teamed and triple teamed on many plays and still was a factor in the game. On the pass that set up the winning field goal, the defense was played perfectly and Dez Bryant just made a play that would have been incomplete 9 out of ten times in the same situation. It was just the bounce of the ball right into his hands that made the catch possible. Both teams played the game hard and I would not have been too upset if the game would have gone to the Texans because they earned the right to be in the game in overtime. Plus, the Texans fans were fantastic and made alot of noise in the Cowboys home. Even Romo said that it was like playing an away game alot of times in the second half.

[whitelightning5]

Hope those two playoff wins sit well in Houston. Historically, it took Houston longer to make the playoffs than any other expansion franchise in the NFL. So congrats, technically Houston was the worst expansion franchise in the history of the NFL, and that list includes the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Every franchise goes through rebuilding, you're about to see it with New England.

Any other negative thoughts on Dallas just bounce off the Lombardi trophies all the fans have next to their ears.

Keep living in the 90's bro. It's fans like you that give the ENTIRE Cowboys fanbase a bad name.

[whitelightning5]

I have been a Cowboys fan all of my 57 years on this earth and I will tell you that I am also a big fan of JJ Watt, Brian Cushing, and Andre Johnson. I have not gotten into this huge rivalry between the Texans and Cowboys, but there is no doubt in my mind that last years poor season by the Texans had nothing to do with the play of any of those three. It was a total system failure and some damned good NFL players are getting a bad rap.

This year the Cowboys have finally decided to concentrate on a running game that is producing good results and opening up some opportunities in the passing game. But, there is alot of season left and I reserve the right to gripe if they decide to change and become the same old November and December Cowboys of past years. I will also say that I believe the Texans will be a contender in their division. They have the personnel to be competitive every week.

The game yesterday was a great game for the fans of both sides and to minimize the effort of both teams is an insult to the game. Watt was double teamed and triple teamed on many plays and still was a factor in the game. On the pass that set up the winning field goal, the defense was played perfectly and Dez Bryant just made a play that would have been incomplete 9 out of ten times in the same situation. It was just the bounce of the ball right into his hands that made the catch possible. Both teams played the game hard and I would not have been too upset if the game would have gone to the Texans because they earned the right to be in the game in overtime. Plus, the Texans fans were fantastic and made alot of noise in the Cowboys home. Even Romo said that it was like playing an away game alot of times in the second half.

Well said OB75. Couldnt agree more.

[Farmersfan]

Coach, LOL who are you talking about?? FF?



He can't be talking about me! I was posting during the game. I will admit that my Romo-pessimism had me expecting the worst but they did pull it out in the end. Of course they made it far more difficult than they should have.

[whitelightning5]

He can't be talking about me! I was posting during the game. I will admit that my Romo-pessimism had me expecting the worst but they did pull it out in the end. Of course they made it far more difficult than they should have.

I know I was sure hoping for the classic Romo meltdown. I guess it wasn't a big enough game...lol

[BB BULLS]

i am just glad the Boys won, cause i sure didn't want to listen to how great the Texans are at beating the Cowboys. and trust me it was hard to watch the with three Texan fans in the room. but they left upset and with a full belly and i was happy camper

[GrTigers6]

What was the key differences between those two Houston teams that went to the playoffs and last year's?Injuries

[whitelightning5]

i am just glad the Boys won, cause i sure didn't want to listen to how great the Texans are at beating the Cowboys. and trust me it was hard to watch the with three Texan fans in the room. but they left upset and with a full belly and i was happy camper

Yeah. Instead we get to listen to how great the Cowboys are. Most love to talk about how awful our franchise is, but love to thump their chests and brag about this win. Based on how most Cowboy fans view our Texans, that win shouldnt really mean much. The logic applied here is amazing.

[BB BULLS]

Yeah. Instead we get to listen to how great the Cowboys are. Most love to talk about how awful our franchise is, but love to thump their chests and brag about this win. Based on how most Cowboy fans view our Texans, that win shouldnt really mean much. The logic applied here is amazing.

you Texan fans are something else if Houston would have won there would have been so much Texan talk on here, it would be non-stop Texans. well whitelightning atleast you and I are on the same side with one team the Brahmas

[whitelightning5]

Injuries

That played a major part, as well.

That said, (according to our friend in this chat) since JJ Watt wasnt one of the injured players, we cant use injuries as an excuse. Him stepping on the field should have brought us 6 more wins and made us at least 8-8. I guess he isn't as big of a superstar as we thought and I guess his leadership needs some work. He should probably give some of that contract back because he consistently under-peforms. SMH.

[whitelightning5]

you Texan fans are something else if Houston would have won there would have been so much Texan talk on here, it would be non-stop Texans. well whitelightning atleast you and I are on the same side with one team the Brahmas

Don't link us all together. Every fanbase has some bad fans that tarnish the others. Some of us are level-headed. A win is a win and I won't take anything away from that W. I guess my comment was more based around the general popluation and my friends (more than folks in this chat).

And you may be right. To beat a storied franchise would be a major accomplishment....especially coming off a 2-14 season. Your Boys were a 6 point favorite. At least we covered....lol.

[cougartino]

One thing I am getting from Texans fans on Houston talk radio is: Excuses! Excuses! Excuses!

It's just not within them to tip their hats and say they'll win next time.

[OldBison75]

Again, as a lifelong Cowboy fan, I can't find alot to brag about.

Since 2005, giving the Texans the first few years to draft, the follow are records to compare:

Dallas Cowboys 72 wins 56 losses four playoff games with a record of 1 win an three losses.

Houston Texans 61 wins and 67 losses with four playoff games and a 2 win and 2 loss record.

Take away last year with the devastating injury year and two teams records would be very close to the same over the period from 2006 to the present.

Not at all enough for anyone to brag too much in my opinion. And don't start the Super Bowl crap either, hell 20 years ago my love life included every night romps and sometimes several times a day--in other words, they are nice to remember but have no bearing on my abilities or luck today.

[whitelightning5]

One thing I am getting from Texans fans on Houston talk radio is: Excuses! Excuses! Excuses!

It's just not within them to tip their hats and say they'll win next time.

I think that's true with any fanbase. Most will have fans who shoulda, woulda, coulda the crap out of the game. Not just Texan fans.

If the Cowboys had lost...I assume it would be the same thing.

I (on the other hand) see how the game could have been a little worse and not made it to OT. Trips to the redzone ending in drops, fumbles or INTs. Our offense was close to stagnant the entire first half. It could have gotten out of hand.

Depends on which side of the fence you sit, I suppose. Does the offense make a mistake and turn the ball over or does the defense cause the turnover. I know Fitzpatrick and Foster werent on the same page with that INT. I think that Demarco has fumble problems and they raked the ball out. I think that Romo was baited into that INT. Thoughts?

[whitelightning5]

Again, as a lifelong Cowboy fan, I can't find alot to brag about.

Since 2005, giving the Texans the first few years to draft, the follow are records to compare:

Dallas Cowboys 72 wins 56 losses four playoff games with a record of 1 win an three losses.

Houston Texans 61 wins and 67 losses with four playoff games and a 2 win and 2 loss record.

Take away last year with the devastating injury year and two teams records would be very close to the same over the period from 2006 to the present.

Not at all enough for anyone to brag too much in my opinion. And don't start the Super Bowl crap either, hell 20 years ago my love life included every night romps and sometimes several times a day--in other words, they are nice to remember but have no bearing on my abilities or luck today.

I might could tolerate watching a rematch with you. You seem to be level-headed....lol.

[Saggy Aggie]

Cowpies still suck

[caleb_mccaig]

Look, I'm just giving my opinion on what that I think and you guys have the right to argue against it. I don't think J.J. Watt is the best defensive player in the league. That's Richard Sherman, bar none, I would honestly rather have Suh than have Watt, once again my opinion. Watt is a good player obviously, someone would just have to be an absolute hater to truly believe that. I think in sports where the playing field is more level, such as pro and sometimes college sports, great players elevate how the team plays. You guys can complain all your life about injuries to the Texans, but the Cowboys were by far the most injury ridden team over the past three years, especially on defense and still somehow managed to be extremely mediocre.

If you think Watt is the second coming of Jesus Christ then so be it, but you're going to ultimately be disappointed when he never makes a AFC Championship game.


Also, the ones who are saying Cushing is a great player and emotional leader, glad to know you support steroid use in the NFL. I wish they would let them run wild and do whatever they want with their bodies, but as the rules are now, Cushing is a known cheater.

[Saggy Aggie]

Please explain how Calvin Johnson's lions team went 0-16 then since great players elevate their teams' play

[BB BULLS]

Cowpies still suck

just like those great Aggies! oh wait a minute Cowboys won. ummm

[Farmersfan]

Again, as a lifelong Cowboy fan, I can't find alot to brag about.

Since 2005, giving the Texans the first few years to draft, the follow are records to compare:

Dallas Cowboys 72 wins 56 losses four playoff games with a record of 1 win an three losses.

Houston Texans 61 wins and 67 losses with four playoff games and a 2 win and 2 loss record.

Take away last year with the devastating injury year and two teams records would be very close to the same over the period from 2006 to the present.

Not at all enough for anyone to brag too much in my opinion. And don't start the Super Bowl crap either, hell 20 years ago my love life included every night romps and sometimes several times a day--in other words, they are nice to remember but have no bearing on my abilities or luck today.



I don't think you can simply take away last season because of injuries. I'm betting the Cowboys played with more injuries over the past 2 season than the Texans have.

[OldBison75]

FF, my point about the injuries comes from the NFL injury reports. According to their stats the Texans had 17 of the 22 first game starters that missed one or more games due to injury. In addition there were 8 that missed two or more games and 4 that missed more than three games. When you consider that that includes the starting running back, the top wide out, and an all pro linebacker it becomes a tough year. Overall, team wide, the Texans had 11 games last season where they were missing at least three first game starters to injury. That is a devastating injury year in my book.

I am not taking anything away from the Cowboys. I am simply saying that during the period from 2006 until this year the Texans were not that bad a team. Not championship quality maybe, but they were competitive most games. I have been much more disappointed in the Cowboys over that same period because they have lost so many games due to poor play and poor coaching than because of being out personnelled.

[whitelightning5]

Look, I'm just giving my opinion on what that I think and you guys have the right to argue against it. I don't think J.J. Watt is the best defensive player in the league. That's Richard Sherman, bar none, I would honestly rather have Suh than have Watt, once again my opinion. Watt is a good player obviously, someone would just have to be an absolute hater to truly believe that. I think in sports where the playing field is more level, such as pro and sometimes college sports, great players elevate how the team plays. You guys can complain all your life about injuries to the Texans, but the Cowboys were by far the most injury ridden team over the past three years, especially on defense and still somehow managed to be extremely mediocre.

If you think Watt is the second coming of Jesus Christ then so be it, but you're going to ultimately be disappointed when he never makes a AFC Championship game.


Also, the ones who are saying Cushing is a great player and emotional leader, glad to know you support steroid use in the NFL. I wish they would let them run wild and do whatever they want with their bodies, but as the rules are now, Cushing is a known cheater.

You wish he was on your team....don't you bro. Not too many fans, players, coaches, GMs, owners agree with your train of thought. I not quite sure why you would want to have someone like Suh on your team, but that is your opinion. Watt is nothing but class and hard work. When it's one player that you have to game plan against on defense...it makes life easy doesnt it? Double Watt....Run the ball the other way. It's simple. Other posters have brought up good points. If your allstar is a RB...it takes a line to block for them. If your allstar is a WR....it takes a QB to get them the ball and a OL to block for that QB. If your allstar is a QB....it takes a OL. I do agree that Sherman is a great player. The issue I have with that is you can simply not throw at him (which is a sign of respect for his ability). If he truly was the best defensive player in the league....I would think that they would move him around a little more. Putting him on one side of the field and leaving him there is a little chicken **** if you ask me. Let him match up against the best WR or TE on the field on every play. Don't let offenses make it as simple to gameplan against him. They do that with Revis and Patterson. If Sherman doesnt line up against the best WR on every team...something is wrong. This week...he should be on Dez every play, but he won't be. That's one thing you can say about Watt....he is moved everywhere on that DL. He is flexible.

Anyone who understands the game knows that its almost unheard of for a 3-4 DE to make the impact that Watt does. A 3-4 DE is very equivalent to a 4-3 DL. They are supposed to be OL eaters and take on the blocks and double teams to allow the LBs to fill those gaps. Anything extra is a bonus. Yes...in passing situations they can make an impact, but a 3-4 DE is not supposed to impact the game as much as a 4-3 DE. Its the OLBs that are supposed to get the glory (i.e. D Ware, Clay Mathews, etc.).

Say what you wish about Cushing. That last 2 seasons that Cushing went down, our defense went to crap. Watt is the face of the franchise, but Cushing is the heart and sole of the defense. Several folks have been found guilty of PEDs. Hell your idea of the best defensive player in the league used PEDs, but got off on a loop hole in the rules (just like Braun). I guess he cheats too, but you support him.

[coach]

Look, I'm just giving my opinion on what that I think and you guys have the right to argue against it. I don't think J.J. Watt is the best defensive player in the league. That's Richard Sherman, bar none, I would honestly rather have Suh than have Watt, once again my opinion. Watt is a good player obviously, someone would just have to be an absolute hater to truly believe that. I think in sports where the playing field is more level, such as pro and sometimes college sports, great players elevate how the team plays. You guys can complain all your life about injuries to the Texans, but the Cowboys were by far the most injury ridden team over the past three years, especially on defense and still somehow managed to be extremely mediocre.

If you think Watt is the second coming of Jesus Christ then so be it, but you're going to ultimately be disappointed when he never makes a AFC Championship game.


Also, the ones who are saying Cushing is a great player and emotional leader, glad to know you support steroid use in the NFL. I wish they would let them run wild and do whatever they want with their bodies, but as the rules are now, Cushing is a known cheater.


LOL Richard Sherman is not the best defensive player in the league. He isnt even the best corner.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

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[SintonFan_inAustin]

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[whitelightning5]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2euivbm.jpg

This one may be one of the funniest that I've seen. Huge play.

[caleb_mccaig]

You wish he was on your team....don't you bro. Not too many fans, players, coaches, GMs, owners agree with your train of thought. I not quite sure why you would want to have someone like Suh on your team, but that is your opinion. Watt is nothing but class and hard work. When it's one player that you have to game plan against on defense...it makes life easy doesnt it? Double Watt....Run the ball the other way. It's simple. Other posters have brought up good points. If your allstar is a RB...it takes a line to block for them. If your allstar is a WR....it takes a QB to get them the ball and a OL to block for that QB. If your allstar is a QB....it takes a OL. I do agree that Sherman is a great player. The issue I have with that is you can simply not throw at him (which is a sign of respect for his ability). If he truly was the best defensive player in the league....I would think that they would move him around a little more. Putting him on one side of the field and leaving him there is a little chicken **** if you ask me. Let him match up against the best WR or TE on the field on every play. Don't let offenses make it as simple to gameplan against him. They do that with Revis and Patterson. If Sherman doesnt line up against the best WR on every team...something is wrong. This week...he should be on Dez every play, but he won't be. That's one thing you can say about Watt....he is moved everywhere on that DL. He is flexible.

Anyone who understands the game knows that its almost unheard of for a 3-4 DE to make the impact that Watt does. A 3-4 DE is very equivalent to a 4-3 DL. They are supposed to be OL eaters and take on the blocks and double teams to allow the LBs to fill those gaps. Anything extra is a bonus. Yes...in passing situations they can make an impact, but a 3-4 DE is not supposed to impact the game as much as a 4-3 DE. Its the OLBs that are supposed to get the glory (i.e. D Ware, Clay Mathews, etc.).

Say what you wish about Cushing. That last 2 seasons that Cushing went down, our defense went to crap. Watt is the face of the franchise, but Cushing is the heart and sole of the defense. Several folks have been found guilty of PEDs. Hell your idea of the best defensive player in the league used PEDs, but got off on a loop hole in the rules (just like Braun). I guess he cheats too, but you support him.

I don't wish J.J. Watt was on the Cowboys at all right now, because for that to happen then that means we passed up on Tyron Smith, who IMO is one of the best three LT's in the NFL at age 23. Now, if the Boys had two first rounders that year would I complain, lol absolutely not. I never said Watt wasn't a hard worker or a good guy, I just think he is overrated. He's a great player still, but I don't think he is the best defensive player in the league.

Don't educate me on the difference between the 4-3 and 3-4 DE, I'm perfectly knowledgable on the subject as Dallas ran it for several years. Marcus Spears who was a great 4-3 DE at LSU came in and his role changed drastically when he played that spot. Watt does excel in his role, there is no denying that. I never once said Watt sucked so I don't know why everyone is getting all pissy about it.

On to the Sherman argument.......Richard Sherman doesn't cover the best WR throughout the entire game because he doesn't have to. Seattle believes their entire secondary, which is by far the best in the league, can cover anyone they play against regardless of who is covering who and it's true. Sherman got busted for adderall, that's hardly a steroid like Cushing was trying to cover up. He was busted for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, which is vastly used around the world to build up testosterone after a steroid cycle.

[caleb_mccaig]

Please explain how Calvin Johnson's lions team went 0-16 then since great players elevate their teams' play

Calvin Johnson can't throw passes to himself. J.J. Watt has the ability to technically make every tackle for his team in every game. Obviously, the percentage chance for that to happen is low, but it's more possible than Detroit throwing Calvin Johnson in at QB to throw passes to himself. Watt has control over what he does on every play, unlike Johnson who relies on a primary factor in making a play.

[whitelightning5]

I don't wish J.J. Watt was on the Cowboys at all right now, because for that to happen then that means we passed up on Tyron Smith, who IMO is one of the best three LT's in the NFL at age 23. Now, if the Boys had two first rounders that year would I complain, lol absolutely not. I never said Watt wasn't a hard worker or a good guy, I just think he is overrated. He's a great player still, but I don't think he is the best defensive player in the league.

Don't educate me on the difference between the 4-3 and 3-4 DE, I'm perfectly knowledgable on the subject as Dallas ran it for several years. Marcus Spears who was a great 4-3 DE at LSU came in and his role changed drastically when he played that spot. Watt does excel in his role, there is no denying that. I never once said Watt sucked so I don't know why everyone is getting all pissy about it.

On to the Sherman argument.......Richard Sherman doesn't cover the best WR throughout the entire game because he doesn't have to. Seattle believes their entire secondary, which is by far the best in the league, can cover anyone they play against regardless of who is covering who and it's true. Sherman got busted for adderall, that's hardly a steroid like Cushing was trying to cover up. He was busted for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, which is vastly used around the world to build up testosterone after a steroid cycle.

I think you're missing my point on Sherman. If you have the best CB in the league, you let him cover the best WR threat...period. The fact that they don't adjust makes a logical thinker assume that there isnt much separation from the abilities of Sherman and Maxwell. Just saying. I think he is a dang good player, but if you have the "best defensive player in the league" you use him accordingly.

My fault on the 3-4 rant. I didn't know that you were that well versed. Any 3-4 DE that almost sets the sack record deserves props. Any 3-4 DE that leads the league in passes defensed over the past 3 years deserves props. But you're right...those achievements do scream OVERRATED. You may be the only person in America that can admit that you think Watt is OVERRATED. But at least you can admit it. That is always the critical first step.

You're right. Cushing tested positive for HCG. HCG is considered a PED on the NFL drug policy. But...so is adderall. A PED is a PED is a PED. They are all prohibited as they enhance the athlete's performance. No matter how you slice it, players still take PEDs to get an edge....right? Doesnt make 1 PED better than the others....does it? Sounds like you'd be the type to tell your son its OK to take HGH, but please stay away from steroids because I dont want you to be viewed as a cheater. Fun fact....2 players on your Cowboys tested positive for PEDs this year....damn cheaters.

[whitelightning5]

Calvin Johnson can't throw passes to himself. J.J. Watt has the ability to technically make every tackle for his team in every game. Obviously, the percentage chance for that to happen is low, but it's more possible than Detroit throwing Calvin Johnson in at QB to throw passes to himself. Watt has control over what he does on every play, unlike Johnson who relies on a primary factor in making a play.

That is just DUMB and you know it. I suppose the opposing team throws the ball 50 yards down the field and Watt should have intercepted the pass. That is what all-time great DEs do.

Watt does have control over what he does on every play. The problem is...he doesn't have control over the offense. SHEESH.

And Calvin throwing to himself....WOW. He is the best WR in the game. Any QB from China Spring could throw the ball in his direction and he can make play and carry his team to victory...right? Why can't Calvin make every catch in a game? Kinda the same logic as Watt making every tackle in every game...right?

[eagleqb_14]

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play of the game IMO

[whitelightning5]

:clap:

play of the game IMO

I agree. Watt completes the sack we save 7, instead he got dooped. A little Romo magic...lol.

[Saggy Aggie]

Calvin Johnson can't throw passes to himself. J.J. Watt has the ability to technically make every tackle for his team in every game. Obviously, the percentage chance for that to happen is low, but it's more possible than Detroit throwing Calvin Johnson in at QB to throw passes to himself. Watt has control over what he does on every play, unlike Johnson who relies on a primary factor in making a play.

You do realize that despite losing their all pro MalB and going 2-14 last year, the Texans had a top 5 defense statistically? Mainly due to JJ watt?

They could've had the #1 defense in the league and maybe won a game or two or more.... Idc how good your d is, you won't be winning games with 3rd string qbs and 3rd string RBs startong games.

Schaub and Yates were both out, along with Arian and Tate. Not to mention andre was out for a decent portion of the year, so the #1 wr was a rookie, deandre Hopkins. But yeah, watt should've won houston more games by himself

[Gen.Pat]

How bout those Cowboys.

[1st and goal]

jj Watt is the best defensive player in the league. Hands down.