Argyle(4-0) at Paris(3-1): Week 5

[regaleagle]

This has the feeling of one of those "look-out" trap games for Argyle after 4 weeks of playing tough teams. Paris ain't exactly a slouch team this season. Are there any Parisites out there viewing to tell us more about this year's Wildcat squad? Maxpreps says they've scored 155 pts. in 4 games while allowing 80, but 51 were in that 51-41 loss to Chapel Hill. Here's a look at the season so far for both teams:

ARGYLE EAGLES(4-0) PARIS WILDCATS(3-1)
Abilene Wylie 34-28 Mt. Pleasant 49-6
Denison 42-35 Melissa 31-10
Celina 41-29 Chapel Hill 51-41
Graham 35-27 Palestine 34-13

[icu812]

I think Argyle wins this game pretty easy. Haven't seen Paris play but that loss to Chapel Hill I think says a lot.
Chapel Hill lost to Lindale who Van beat by 32 points.

[regaleagle]

Paris is led by Jr. QB Quez Allen(6-3, 212), who rushed and passed for 2400 yds. as a Soph. starter last season. He was named District MVP. Senior LB Jordan Williams(6-1, 220) leads the defense for the Wildcats. They seem to have ample "beef" on the lines, and a good stable of RB's to carry the rock. Allen will throw and run, and the team speed of the skill players will be fast. They return 16 Letterman and 7 starters from last season's 6-5 campaign and are picked to win their district. Princeton may have something to say about that, as well as Liberty Eylau.

[catgut]

I think Argyle wins this game pretty easy. Haven't seen Paris play but that loss to Chapel Hill I think says a lot.
Chapel Hill lost to Lindale who Van beat by 32 points.
The loss to Chapel Hill was entirely on two pick six interceptions. Paris gained around 590 yards against Chapel Hill's 300 or so.

[catgut]

Paris is led by Jr. QB Quez Allen(6-3, 212), who rushed and passed for 2400 yds. as a Soph. starter last season. He was named District MVP. Senior LB Jordan Williams(6-1, 220) leads the defense for the Wildcats. They seem to have ample "beef" on the lines, and a good stable of RB's to carry the rock. Allen will throw and run, and the team speed of the skill players will be fast. They return 16 Letterman and 7 starters from last season's 6-5 campaign and are picked to win their district. Princeton may have something to say about that, as well as Liberty Eylau.
The QB is a tough runner but I'm still not impressed with his decision making. We have two good backs, nothing like the big boy from Argyle, but not bad. Paris is really a young team this year with 11 sophomores on the team. Last week they started two freshmen.
I don't see us winning but I hope we don't get embarrassed like last year.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Argyle by as many as it wants. I wish Paris were a little closer to Gilmer so I could make it to this game. In my youth, I'd have had no problem with the 160-mile roundtrip.

You who don't remember gasoline at 30 or even 50 cents a gallon don't realize how footloose and fancy-free we were in our automobiles back then.

[Aguilafanatico]

Argyle by as many as it wants. I wish Paris were a little closer to Gilmer so I could make it to this game. In my youth, I'd have had no problem with the 160-mile roundtrip.

You who don't remember gasoline at 30 or even 50 cents a gallon don't realize how footloose and fancy-free we were in our automobiles back then.

Come on AG. We traveled to Graham (200 miles round trip)last week and now turn around and head to Paris (230 miles round trip) this week. We play a much closer Carrollton Ranchview next week away making it 3 weeks in a rows or the Eagle roadshow. Johnny Joes is having a record month for fuel sales.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Come on AG. We traveled to Graham (200 miles round trip)last week and now turn around and head to Paris (230 miles round trip) this week. We play a much closer Carrollton Ranchview next week away making it 3 weeks in a rows or the Eagle roadshow. Johnny Joes is having a record month for fuel sales.

Check out the average household income statistics of the Argyle ISD versus ours. We Third Worlders to your east have to cut back on discretionary spending.

I actually could afford a bigger travel budget, but it's the principle of the thing. It'd cost me 10 times more to drive to Paris and back than it would have in my childhood. It's a curse to remember back as long as I can (one of my first memories was of JFK getting killed).

[regaleagle]

Come on AG. We traveled to Graham (200 miles round trip)last week and now turn around and head to Paris (230 miles round trip) this week. We play a much closer Carrollton Ranchview next week away making it 3 weeks in a rows or the Eagle roadshow. Johnny Joes is having a record month for fuel sales.

Might wanna buy a scratch-off @ Johnny Joe's and hope you get lucky to pay for some of that gas, lol. Tell 'em all hello for me.

[Aguilafanatico]

Might wanna buy a scratch-off @ Johnny Joe's and hope you get lucky to pay for some of that gas, lol. Tell 'em all hello for me.

Will do. Sure I will be filling up soon.

[lostaussie]

My memories of Paris high school are when I was a freshmen on the varsity baseball team playing left field. We scored in the top of the first to take a 1-0 lead. When the coach pulled us off the field in the bottom of the 4th it was 27-1 Paris. I got tired of running back to the fence and watching balls go out, so finally I just stood at the fence and would just turn my head and watch them go out..........did I mention it was the FIRST game of a doubleheader:D.......
Some like that you just don't forget!!

[regaleagle]

I think Paris has some good athletes over there, and pretty solid program year in and year out. They changed coaches again last season, so this is the 2nd year for that new staff this season. Sounds like a heckuva qb/athlete they have there for just being a junior.....Quez Allen. I'll hafta keep track of him this year and next. I hear they have some good and speedy backs too. I think that school just needs some continuity to the program from grade school up to get to the next level. Argyle is by no means gonna just show up for this one. I can pretty much guarantee the Argyle coaches have spent lots of time with the corners this week in practice....can't give that East Texas speed too much outside room or they'll burn ya. The Eagles should be able to handle them up the middle and in the secondary. Just need to shut down them corners this week.

[bobcat1]

Poor Paris.

[regaleagle]

Poor Paris.

I don't think the Eagles will be feeling too sympathetic for a team that's 3-1 and has a qb like Paris does. He's a natural athlete and can hold his own against the odds. Otherwise, he wouldn't be the qb, they wouldn't be 3-1, and he wouldn't have been named District MVP last season as a soph. I reckon they have some other quality athletes on that team as well. Like I stated earlier.....this appears to be one of those "trap" games that a team could fall into if they don't show up ready to rumble. And it's at their house. The Eagles need to keep improving each game all the way to playoffs, and try to stay healthy.....one game at a time.

[Aguilafanatico]

The QB is a tough runner but I'm still not impressed with his decision making. We have two good backs, nothing like the big boy from Argyle, but not bad. Paris is really a young team this year with 11 sophomores on the team. Last week they started two freshmen.
I don't see us winning but I hope we don't get embarrassed like last year.

Any good "pregame" spots you can recommend in Paris. Looks like Chilis is it from what I can tell.

[catgut]

Any good "pregame" spots you can recommend in Paris. Looks like Chilis is it from what I can tell.

Best place to eat is The Fish Fry. Also very good is Magels.

[waterboy]

Best place to eat is The Fish Fry. Also very good is Magels.

Yep. Ate at The Fish Fry many times. Some good eating, but be prepared to wait a while. I haven't eaten there lately, but the Sirloin Stockade was good a few years ago. Only have eaten there once since they moved out on the Loop. Where is Magel's? What kind of food do they serve?

I think Argyle will likely be able to name their score against Paris. There hasn't been a "big" dropoff in the Eagles' game from the last few years, and I think the Wildcats are about the same as they have been..., which means Argyle should win by a bunch.

[regaleagle]

Methinks it would be wise to key on that qb....Quez Allen. He sounds like the real deal and the key to their offense. I'm sure they have some very decent and speedy rb's too, but he's one of them and will probably get flustered if he gets a face full of turf all night long.

[regaleagle]

Argyle takes the opening kickoff and will start at their own 20. On the 1st play Ralston takes it off the left side for a 70 yd. gain down to the Paris 11.

[regaleagle]

Argyle is called for illegal procedure on 2nd. Now 3rd and 11 from the 11. Good defense by Paris as they hold Ralston. Argyle kicks a field goal from 26 yds. out.

Argyle 3
Paris 0

Argyle will kick to Paris after running 5 plays of offense.

[regaleagle]

Paris fumbles the kickoff at the 14, fell on it and then an Argyle player hit him late on the ground for a 15 yd. personal foul. That puts the ball on the Paris 29 to start. Quez Allen hands it off and they run around end for a 1st down. This Wildcat team looks pretty good running the ball.

[regaleagle]

Paris is running the ball for another first down, but the referee made the tackle for Argyle, haha. Paris now gets another first down off a broken tackle. That was Quez Allen on the carry down to the Paris 38.

[regaleagle]

Quez Allen takes it right up the heart of the Argyle defense to the Argyle 10 for another 1st down. This guy is the real deal. Now they read option to the rb down to the 1.

[regaleagle]

Eagles stops Allen right short of the goal line on 2nd. They're right close to the line. Now Raulerson is stopped right at the goal line again by the EAgles. 4th and goal inside the 1. He's stopped with a slight loss and the EAgles stop them inside the one on three straight plays.....unbelievable!

[regaleagle]

Ralston takes it over the left side on a big hole out to the 28 yd. line on 1st from the one.

[regaleagle]

Now Paris is tightening up on the line and it's 3rd and 6 for Argyle. Rodgers overthrows Estrada on 3rd. Argyle will punt it with Estrada standing on his own 26. Estrada punts its rugbystyle 47 yds. down to the Paris 19.

[regaleagle]

Argyle throws Allen for a 5 yd. loss on 2nd down. On third, Allen picks up 12, but is short of the 1st. Paris will punt, but Argyle is offsides but Paris has an illegal formation. The punt went out of bounds at about the Argyle 40. Cooper Rodgers got walloped and blindsided as he let go of the pass.

[gatordaze]

Eagles stops Allen right short of the goal line on 2nd. They're right close to the line. Now Raulerson is stopped right at the goal line again by the EAgles. 4th and goal inside the 1. He's stopped with a slight loss and the EAgles stop them inside the one on three straight plays.....unbelievable!

Raulerson better be in his hotel room in Lawrence getting ready for KU!

[regaleagle]

Argyle called for holding. Now Rodgers throws a short pass on a throwback for about 18 yds. A penalty for a block in the back makes it 2nd and 29. On third and 29, Rodgers hits Ledford for 25 yds. 4th and 5. Rodgers hits Estrada with a dart for a first on 4th down. Argyle digs themselves out of a 3rd and 29 hole in their own territory down to the Paris 28 yd.line.

[regaleagle]

End of 1st.

Argyle 3

Paris 0

[regaleagle]

Paris has not lost a disrtict game in 5 yrs. Their D-1 Linebacker Jordan Williams is also the real deal.

[regaleagle]

Rodgers hits JC Chalk for a big gain, then Ralston makes a great run breaking tackles for a TD from about the 10. The kick is good.

Argyle 10
Paris 0

Early in the 2nd

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Estrada kicks off for a touchback. Paris will begin on their 25. Allen is under heavy pressure and dropped at the 15 for a loss of 10.

[regaleagle]

3rd and 24 incomplete on a deep playaction pass by Allen. The Wildcats will punt to Argyle from in their own endzone. Linedrive punt turns over and goes to Argyle 38.

[regaleagle]

Rodgers hits Dane Ledford on a straight fly pattern with a perfect pass in stride for a 52 yd. TD pass on 1st down. The kick is good.

Argyle 17
Paris 0

Early 2nd

[regaleagle]

Argyle traps the returner at the Wildcat 17 yd. line of the kickoff by Estrada. Rolllerson takes the handoff from Allen for a couple of yards on 1st for Paris.

[regaleagle]

Allen hits his reciever on a crossing pattern for a 1st down.

[regaleagle]

Argyle hits Allen and wallops him, the ball is loose and Argyle jumps on it for a turnover.

[regaleagle]

Cooper Rodgers does it again on 1st down on consecutive plays and hits Estrada for 42 yds. for another passing TD. The kick is good. That was a better pass than the other one because Rodgers had to step to his left and then fired it on a perfect touch to a full stride Estrada down the sideline.

Argyle 24
Paris 0

Back to back TD passes by Rodgers after the turnover.

[regaleagle]

So far Argyle is looking very explosive on offense tonight....something we haven't seen so far this season.

[regaleagle]

Argyle sacks Allen for the 4th time tonite. 2nd and 15 for Paris now. Bearden sacks Allen again. 3rd and 20 for Paris. Timeout Paris.

[regaleagle]

On the 23 of Paris, Allen gets to the corner but Markwardt runs him down. 4th and 12. Paris is forced to punt from their own 30. Good high punt is let go and down at the 34 of the Eagles.

[regaleagle]

McCook takes the Wildcat snap around the corner for a gain over the 50. Ralston takes it 7 more yards as he stops, then accelerates to avoid the linebacker. NOw on the Paris 40.

[regaleagle]

Ralston leads the blocking around end for another rb for a gain of another 7 yds. Paris throws Blake DeWoody for a loss on a sweep, but flags are thrown. It appears to be a facemask against Paris, but a Wildcat is down and injured on the play, also.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Not sure anyone in Division I can beat Argyle this year. Maybe Navasota could. That'd be a good matchup.

[regaleagle]

15 yds. against Paris on that facemask as Ralston takes it left down to the 5 yd. line. 1st and goal for Argyle. Rodgers throws it to Chalk but he's out of bounds.

[regaleagle]

2nd and goal now for Argyle. They call a timeout....they didn't get the play in and had to call a timeout.

[lostaussie]

Argyle, Navasoto, and Stephenville I believe are the 3 to beat

[regaleagle]

Ready to go now with the ball on the 5 yd. line for Argyle. Ralston drags a linebacker inside the one. 3rd and less than one.

[regaleagle]

Ralston takes the handoff, cuts to the right because of the pile up the middle, and found his way around the end for another Argyle TD. The kick is good.

Argyle 31
Paris 0

3 min. left in 2nd

[regaleagle]

Estrada kicks it to the one, but Argyle makes the tackle inside the Paris 20 at the 18 yd. line. Good coverage by the kickoff team there for Argyle.

[regaleagle]

Chez Allen hits a hole and has to be run down by Hunter Markwardt down at the Argyle 30 yd. line. That was a 50 yd. breakaway run for Paris. They take a timeout so Allen can catch his breath.

[regaleagle]

Now Allen rolls right to pass, tucks it and breaks 2 different Argyle tacklers down to the Argyle 15. Great run by Allen....he's 215 lbs and a shifty, strong runner.

[regaleagle]

Argyle roughs the passer for a personal foul when Allen lets it go for incomplete. That moves Paris down to close to the 5 yd. line.

[regaleagle]

Allen drops the snap and loses yardage to the 14. Allen was gonna be sacked, had 3 Eagles on him, had him stood up but he gets away and scores right up the middle for a Paris TD. Unvbelievable run. He's being recruited by some SEC schools.....has been offered by Tulane and North Texas so far. He had to break 9 tackles on that drive. He's only a junior. They don't convert the extra point after taking a timeout for 2pts.

Argyle 31
Paris 6
28 secs. to half

[regaleagle]

Markwardt takes a deep high kick past the 50 for a great Argyle kick return. Eagles have 17 secs. Rodgers throws it down to the 30. 11 secs. left til half. Timeout Argyle.

[regaleagle]

Argyle will attempt to score here. Final play of the half on the Paris 28 now. 2 secs. left but now Paris takes their timeout.

[regaleagle]

Paris is putting the secondary guys back, dropping 8 and rushing only 3 here. Rodgers throws it deep in the endzone, its intercepted and the dback runs it back out to the 20 to end the half.

Halftime

Argyle 31
Paris 6

[Aesculus gilmus]

Paris has not lost a disrtict game in 5 yrs. Their D-1 Linebacker Jordan Williams is also the real deal.

I knew that didn't sound right. They lost two district games in 2010. Just click on that season to verify. Paris has a better program than 10 years ago when Gilmer used to beat them so badly, but not THAT good.
http://lonestarfootball.net/team.asp?T=1169

On edit: Damn, the archives are GOOD on this site:
http://bbs.texasdownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?19182-Gilmer-62-Paris-16

[regaleagle]

The boys in the booth were probably talking about Argyle and I thought they were talking about Paris. Sometimes they're hard to follow because they have several topics going on at once and it's difficult to understand who they're talking about, lol.

[regaleagle]

Wildcats return 2nd half kickoff 27 yds. to the Paris 34. 1st and 10 for Paris to start the 2nd half. It's the Quez Allen show here, folks. He does hand it off to Rollerson, passes it, but mostly scrambles and gains yardage on his athleltic ability. The guy is truly a talent in the open field.

[regaleagle]

Paris punts it and Argyle returner gets walloped as he fields it. Argyle 1st and 10 from the Argyle 17. McCook takes it out of the pistol for 9 yds. Rodgers was set out wide as a reciever.

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Jordan Williams, all state linebacker and D-1 recruit for Paris, stops Argyle on 2nd 6. 3rd and 5 now for Argyle. Rodgers hits Estrada for a great catch and throw and another Argyle firstdown.

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McCook takes it another 12 yds. out of the pistol from the center on the wildcat with a big hole opened up around right tackle.

[regaleagle]

Argyle is running the ball quite a bit here, but the Paris defense is throwing some of the runs for losses. Now Cooper Rodgers is sacked. It will be 4th and 25. Argyle will punt from their own 45. A 47 yd. punt to the 2 yd. line and he gets 3 yds. on the return. Paris 1 st and 10 at their own 5.

[regaleagle]

2nd and 8 for Paris now. Allen keeps it and breaks 3 tackles and ran out of bounds for a 1st down. He had over 130 yd. rushing in the 1st half. Allen is sacked in the backfield now on an attempted pass, but he doesn't throw it some times, he just takes off and runs it.

[regaleagle]

3rd and 16 for Paris and Allen now. He drops back to pass, but has nowhere to go. Argyle gets its 8th sack of the night now. That was Bearden again on his 3rd sack of the night.

[regaleagle]

Low linedrive punt and the reciever is hit as he fields it , loses it but recovers it for Argyle. Almost lost that one to the Paris punting team.

[regaleagle]

Rodgers hits Dewoody in the soft zone to the 35 for a 1st down. Nice to see him playing again....he's been out with an injury most of the early season.

[regaleagle]

Rodgers incomplete on a deep attempt to Casey Harper. 3rd and 12 for Argyle now. Rodgers hits Estrada over the middle short. 4th and 4 now for Argyle. On the last play of the 3rd quarter on 4th down Rodgers hits Casey Harper for another first down on a nice catch.

Argyle 31
Paris 0

end of 3rd

Argyle is running the ball and killing the clock, making firstdowns as needed to control the ball.

[regaleagle]

McCook takes it on the wildcat snap up the middle on a nice block to the 6 yd. line .

[regaleagle]

Argyle is content to let the clock just keep running and running. McCook takes the wildcat snap again and Jordan Williams of Paris says "hello".

[regaleagle]

Now Cooper Rodgers takes the snap, rolls right to pass, keeps it and is just tatooed at the 3 yd. line by a Paris defender he didn't see for the biggest hit of night. He's okay and gets back up. Now the field goal attempt hits the upright and bounces away.

[regaleagle]

Paris is gonna make the playoffs with this year's team, no doubt. They may even go several rounds deep, depending on the draw.

[regaleagle]

3 and out by Argyle as Paris is forced to punt it away to Argyle now. A low linedrive punt again that rolls and is fielded . Again the Argyle returner is walloped as soon as he fields it, but the punts are only about 30 yds every time.

[regaleagle]

Cooper hits Hunter Markwardt for a firstdown. Now a draw to Chase Carrick for another first down off the right side for 17 yds. Evidently Ralston is on the sidelines in this second half. Carrick now gets another 4 yds.

[regaleagle]

Rodgers hits Casey Harper on 4th down at the 18. He accurately threw that ball then took a big hit, but Harper takes it in at the 5 and runs it in from there as he's hit at the goal line. TD Argyle.

Argyle 38
Paris 6

4th qtr.

[regaleagle]

Argyle has been playing the subs mostly in this 2nd half, but now just about every player on the field for Argyle is a sub.

[regaleagle]

3rd and 10 for Paris with 4:28 left in the game. Big hole for Paris as Smith takes it for a big gain down inside Argyle territory.

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Now Paris runs it down to the Argyle 35 for another first down.

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Gain of 7 by Allen on a busted play. 2nd and 3 for Paris. Zone read by Allen as he keeps it inside the Argyle 20 for another first down.

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Allen calls his own number again around the right side as a pile of Eagles meet him at the sidelines, but Argyle is called for a facemask. 1st and goal for Paris at the 5 yd. line.

[regaleagle]

Wildcats score as Smith takes the handoff from Allen for the TD. He's only a soph, but has a really fast burst. Kick is faked as the holder pulls it and runs it in for a 2pt. play.

Argyle 38
Paris 14

Late 4th

[regaleagle]

Paris recovers the onside kick on the Argyle 45. Good play by the Wildcats there on a really nice bounce on the onsides kick.

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Paris at the Argyle 42 with 1:40 remaining. Argyle throws Paris for a loss of 2 yds.

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Read option handed to Sims but Argyle stops him for a short gain. 3rd and 15 now for Paris. 15 secs. left now. Paris runs it down to the Argyle 28, but that's the game.

Argyle 38
Paris 14

Final

[regaleagle]

Argyle will have a bye week next week. They end predistrict with a 5-0 record. Ralston gained over 125 yds in the first half, but really didn't get any touches in the 2nd half as Argyle substituted heavily strarting early in the 3rd quarter. So he got some well-deserved rest tonite.

[catgut]

Actually Paris has not lost a district game in three years, two years under Bowman and last year under Hohenberger. They should be favored again this year with Liberty Eylau and Princeton being their biggest threats. We lost our starting center this week to an injury in practice. He's out for the year so that's going to hurt. It was obivious tonight that he was missed.
Good luck to Argyle the rest of the way. Must be nice to have those big boys just coming year after year.

[regaleagle]

Actually, Paris has 300 more enrollment than Argyle. I just assume the participation rate over there isn't what it is in Argyle.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Not to belabor the point, but a study was done a year or so ago about what an advantage it is for a high school football team to come from a high per capita income district.

Paris is almost like an inner-city school or was 10 years ago. That's what I remember about it whenever we played the Wildcats.

This is not a knock on the inner cities either. The people there manage to survive on incomes that wouldn't last more than a month for a family in Argyle or any other similar wealthy suburban setting.

[catgut]

That's so true. You look at the Argyle boys and know they miss no meals or training needed. Many of the kids that play at Paris get their only meals at the school. Most are from very poor families and Contrary to what the politicians want to say about Texas there are no jobs in this area.

[regaleagle]

That's so true. You look at the Argyle boys and know they miss no meals or training needed. Many of the kids that play at Paris get their only meals at the school. Most are from very poor families and Contrary to what the politicians want to say about Texas there are no jobs in this area.

Not sure if they still do it, but when my son was playing every Thurs. some booster would have a huge meal for the team, and sometimes the coaches too. And these meals weren't just "cheapo" types....sometimes catered and sometimes steaks on the grill....sometimes 2 per player. My son and the whole team always looked forward to Thursdays, lol.

[regaleagle]

Things are getting tough financially in our society now....there's virtually no middle class left anymore. The jobless numbers are in the stratosphere, and it won't get any better anytime soon. And believe it or not, Texas is one of the more "employed" states with the shale drilling going on in 3 different areas around the state. Of course, there's tons of transplants moved in here from all over the nation, and the borders are now wide open for the illegals to take other jobs at a cheap labor rate. Obuma and the powers that be that are behind this move to consolidate North America want to turn the US into a third world country. Militarization of the police force is a good indicator, just sayin'. But this isn't the place to discuss these events.

[Aguilafanatico]

Things are getting tough financially in our society now....there's virtually no middle class left anymore. The jobless numbers are in the stratosphere, and it won't get any better anytime soon. And believe it or not, Texas is one of the more "employed" states with the shale drilling going on in 3 different areas around the state. Of course, there's tons of transplants moved in here from all over the nation, and the borders are now wide open for the illegals to take other jobs at a cheap labor rate. Obuma and the powers that be that are behind this move to consolidate North America want to turn the US into a third world country. Militarization of the police force is a good indicator, just sayin'. But this isn't the place to discuss these events.

:vrycnfsd::vrycnfsd:
I don't know about all that but what I can say is.......

NO Jobs in area = move to another area. We have done it. We are not rich, nor are most of those who reside in Argyle. Hard working people who have earned their keep. Many are company owners that built from the ground up......and struggled. Nothing wrong with hard working people having success in my opinion. Same goes for football players/teams. Running in the summer is FREE. Working out in the weight room is FREE. Commitment, Sweat, hard work, dedication, discipline don't require dollars. Our kids work extremely hard in the offseason (when nobody is watching), as well as all season long. I have lived on peanut butter sandwiches and you know what, they are cheap and provide a ton of protein. Don't use the "Argyle has money" excuse as that is a slap in the face to the kids that put in the work all year long. By the way, the Paris facilities are incredible. Probably nicer than rich, Argyle's.

[regaleagle]

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly with that Aguilafanatico about the Argyle circumstances. I was just commenting on what's going on around the nation with the middle class in our society. Those Gilmerites keep hammering on how "rich & privileged" this Argyle community is, but there's far more communities that have more wealth and resources all over this state than little ol' Argyle. I imagine Glimmer is one of them, haha. Ever since it's become apparent that Argyle can hold their own against every school in their classification and even compete with larger schools, people use that misconception as an excuse. There's no cryin' in football, lol....just hard work and dedication by the coaches, players, and all those that support such....in every sport and in every UIL contest....end of story. You can either pull up your pants and compete....or go home whining. Winners don't whine....they find ways to get better. It's called striving for excellence, and it's a shared mentality of the whole community.

[catgut]

There's no crying on this end either. I admire the program that Argyle has.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly with that Aguilafanatico about the Argyle circumstances. I was just commenting on what's going on around the nation with the middle class in our society. Those Gilmerites keep hammering on how "rich & privileged" this Argyle community is, but there's far more communities that have more wealth and resources all over this state than little ol' Argyle. I imagine Glimmer is one of them, haha. Ever since it's become apparent that Argyle can hold their own against every school in their classification and even compete with larger schools, people use that misconception as an excuse. There's no cryin' in football, lol....just hard work and dedication by the coaches, players, and all those that support such....in every sport and in every UIL contest....end of story. You can either pull up your pants and compete....or go home whining. Winners don't whine....they find ways to get better. It's called striving for excellence, and it's a shared mentality of the whole community.

You and fantatico have somewhat misunderstood my point, perhaps deliberately. And I didn't do the study to which I referred. I think it was on Dave Campbell's Texas Football site last year, but I can't find it now.

The young men can work hard in any community. That is true. But they don't get to choose their parents. A young man born into a high-achieving, high-expectations nuclear family in Argyle is better off than the typical family in Paris or Gilmer, which is often NOT a nuclear one. In fact, in Gilmer, Coach Traylor is the only (or at least the most worthy-of-emulation) male role model they have in their lives. This is not necessarily a racial issue either. Studies also show that the lower socioeconomic groups of ALL races are just not marrying and forming nuclear families anymore. Gilmer has just as many churches per capita as any other part of the Bible Belt, but that didn't prevent the nuclear family concept from imploding here to just as great an extent as it has elsewhere. Ozzie and Harriet have been extinct here for a long time. A local political operative who's a friend of mine (he was chairman of the GOP here back when it wasn't cool to be GOP) admitted to me a few years ago, "We've LOST the culture wars."

[Aguilafanatico]

You and fantatico have somewhat misunderstood my point, perhaps deliberately. And I didn't do the study to which I referred. I think it was on Dave Campbell's Texas Football site last year, but I can't find it now.

The young men can work hard in any community. That is true. But they don't get to choose their parents. A young man born into a high-achieving, high-expectations nuclear family in Argyle is better off than the typical family in Paris or Gilmer, which is often NOT a nuclear one. In fact, in Gilmer, Coach Traylor is the only (or at least the most worthy-of-emulation) male role model they have in their lives. This is not necessarily a racial issue either. Studies also show that the lower socioeconomic groups of ALL races are just not marrying and forming nuclear families anymore. Gilmer has just as many churches per capita as any other part of the Bible Belt, but that didn't prevent the nuclear family concept from imploding here to just as great an extent as it has elsewhere. Ozzie and Harriet have been extinct here for a long time. A local political operative who's a friend of mine (he was chairman of the GOP here back when it wasn't cool to be GOP) admitted to me a few years ago, "We've LOST the culture wars."

What about Euless Trinity, Dallas Skyline, Desoto, Cedar Hill...........???

[Aesculus gilmus]

Touché, I guess. What is amazing about Argyle is that you do not have a great number of the stereotypical players who are routinely gifted with innate athleticism. I am taking nothing away from Argyle. Your athletes have overachieved in terms of their genetic heritage and continue to do so. Abilene Wylie's the same way or used to be.

I'm not working for ESPN, so I'm not worried about being fired. There's a reason 79 percent of the players in the NFL are African-American. It's only partly because they work hard and, don't get me wrong, they DO work hard in the Gilmer program. In fact, I've often said that if I had had Jeff Traylor as a coach, I'd have stopped coming out for football by the time I got to high school because of the demands he puts on those players.

I would guess, not knowing about those programs you mentioned with any specificity, that they have coaching staffs similar to those of Argyle and Gilmer. One thing is PERFECTLY obvious. The Gilmer coaches are some of the best in the state. And I imagine yours are also.

[Aguilafanatico]

Touché, I guess. What is amazing about Argyle is that you do not have a great number of the stereotypical players who are routinely gifted with innate athleticism. I am taking nothing away from Argyle. Your athletes have overachieved in terms of their genetic heritage and continue to do so. Abilene Wylie's the same way or used to be.

I'm not working for ESPN, so I'm not worried about being fired. There's a reason 79 percent of the players in the NFL are African-American. It's only partly because they work hard and, don't get me wrong, they DO work hard in the Gilmer program. In fact, I've often said that if I had had Jeff Traylor as a coach, I'd have stopped coming out for football by the time I got to high school because of the demands he puts on those players.

I would guess, not knowing about those programs you mentioned with any specificity, that they have coaching staffs similar to those of Argyle and Gilmer. One thing is PERFECTLY obvious. The Gilmer coaches are some of the best in the state. And I imagine yours are also.

Believe me. Argyllians have the UTMOST respect for Gilmer. Incredible program and a TON of hard working, talented athletes. Kinda glad you guys are in D2 though love the big wars we have had in the past. It's what it is all about. You are correct. Funny how great programs continue to win. Our coaches sacrifice a ton as I am sure the Gilmer coaches do, to ensure winning traditions continue. There are no shortcuts.