Big Spring vs Kerrville Tivy updates?

[jason]

Anybody available to post updates for this game?

[Sweetwater Red]

Anybody available to post updates for this game?

I'll be at the game and can post score by score updates on this thread.

[jason]

What time does it start?

[SHSBulldog00]

What time does it start?

6PM tonight

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 6
Tivy 0

First play from scrimmage is a 66 yard TD run by BS #34

Bad snap on XP try

[Smitty]

internet link?

[Sweetwater Red]

Tivy 30 yard FG attempt no good

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 12
Tivy 0

Hunter Hill 5 yard TD run

Conversion failed again

5:40 left in 1st quarter

[Sweetwater Red]

Tivy goes for it on fourth and five from the BS 46. Runs the option and the Steers blow it up in the backfield.

Nice run by Tannehill, a PI penalty and BS has the ball at Tivy 15

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring facing 4th and 15 from the Tivy 20, goes for it by attempting a screen pass but Tivy isn't fooled.

Tivy takes over at their own 19.

[Smitty]

Kbest 95.7, found it

[Sweetwater Red]

Kerrville rips off a 38 yard run as the first quarter ends. Will have it 1st and 10 at BS 32 when play resumes

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 12
Tivy 7

10:40 left in first half


QB with 31 yard run down to the one and scores on next play

[Sweetwater Red]

Kbest 95.7, found it


If everyone is going to stream it let me know and I'll quit updating.

[refereedoc]

If everyone is going to stream it let me know and I'll quit updating.

Not streaming , please keep posting. Thanks

[Sweetwater Red]

Tivy forces a punt and. Tannehill (who also kicks off...deep I might add) shanks the punt.

Tivy takes over around the BS 40 and scores on a 32 yard TD pass.


Big Spring 12
Tivy 14

8:11 left in first half

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 18
Tivy 14

7:49 left in first half


Tannehill with a 52 yard TD pass. Defender went for the ball instead of the tackle and BS Hunter Hill had
No one between him and the EZ.

Also, that is three bad snaps now on the extra point try.

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 18
Tivy 21

5:46 left in first half

Tivy coverts a 4th and 6 from their 45, completes a 40 yard pass and then the QB scores on a 12 yard run

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 25
Tivy 21

4:42 left in first half

34 yard TD run by #4 Preston Alexander

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 25
Tivy 28

3:51 left in first half

Tivy with a 55 yard TD run

[refereedoc]

Big Spring 25
Tivy 28

3:51 left in first half

Tivy with a 55 yard TD run

Is this 7 on 7? Sounds like no defense. :)

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 31
Tivy 28

0:42 left in first half

15 yard TD pass By Tannehill to Parker

XP blocked

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 31
Tivy 35

0:11 left in first half

Tivy QB with a 32 yard TD pass

[Sweetwater Red]

Is this 7 on 7? Sounds like no defense. :)

Offenses definitively ahead of defenses for these teams. That's pretty clear.


Halftime

[jason]

Sounds like big spring still can't stop anybody.

[Saggy Aggie]

Sounds like they need to work on special teams

[Sweetwater Red]

Tannehill's kickoff rolls thru back of EZ. Tivy starts the second half at their 25.

Second play from scrimmage is a 55 yard TD pass by the Tivy QB

Big Spring 31
Tivy 42

11:11 left in 3rd quarter

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring facing 4th and goal from the 11 and Tannehill throws up a jump ball into double coverage
and BS #15 makes the catch in the corner of the EZ

Big Spring 37
Tivy 42

Conversion no good again

4:55 left in 3rd quarter

[jason]

Big Spring facing 4th and goal from the 11 and Tannehill throws up a jump ball into double coverage
and BS #15 makes the catch in the corner of the EZ

Big Spring 37
Tivy 42

Conversion no good again

4:55 left in 3rd quarter

They did that against sv last year in playoffs. Just threw it up and managed to complete a few.

[Sweetwater Red]

Tivy with 4th and 6 at the Big Spring 16 and The Steers get called for PI.

1st and goal at the 7

1st down - a two yard run by the QB
2nd down - a two yard run by the WB
3rd down - a pass out in the flat that results in a 3 yard TD catch.

Big Spring 37
Tivy 49

0:42 left in 3rd quarter

[Sweetwater Red]

They did that against sv last year in playoffs. Just threw it up and managed to complete a few.

WR made a nice play but slightly more athletic DBs would've knocked it down easily


10:20 left in game and Big Spring has ball at Tivy 42

And just as I type that the Steers are called for their fifth personal foul

[Smitty]

Tivy's screen plays are killing Big Spring

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring 44
Tivy 49

5:12 left in game

Tannehill 22 yard TD pass to Henry Hill

[Sweetwater Red]

Tivy punts, BS takes over at own 20

Big Spring 52
Tivy 49

Ryan Tannehill runs for an 80 yard TD followed by a successful 2 point attempt.

1:59 left in game - Tivy has two timeouts left

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring squib kicks it, on the return Big Spring is called for a horse collar tackle.
Tivy ball at the 30.

[Sweetwater Red]

40 yard completion and Tivy ball at BS 30 with 43 seconds left

Pass complete over the middle now Tivy at 17 with 39 seconds left uses one of their timeouts

[Sweetwater Red]

Tivy called for for holding which moves the ball back to the 27.
Very next play is a 27 yard TD pass by the Antler QB

Big Spring 52
Tivy 56

0:26 left in game

[Saggy Aggie]

Tivy punts, BS takes over at own 20

Big Spring 52
Tivy 49

Ryan Tannehill runs for an 80 yard TD followed by a successful 2 point attempt.

1:59 left in game - Tivy has two timeouts left

Ryan tannehill? He has the same name as his brother in the nfl??? Lol

[Sweetwater Red]

Ryan tannehill? He has the same name as his brother in the nfl??? Lol

Ha! Tobyn but you guys already knew that

[Sweetwater Red]

Big Spring at own 41 with 11 seconds left

Now Tivy 41 with 3 seconds

Tannehill scrambles to buy time, throws up a Hail Mary in the EZ as time expires
and it's caught for a TD.

Big Spring 58
Tivy 56

Final

[ccmom]

Big Spring at own 41 with 11 seconds left

Now Tivy 41 with 3 seconds

Tannehill scrambles to buy time, throws up a Hail Mary in the EZ as time expires
and it's caught for a TD.

Big Spring 58
Tivy 56

Final
Wow!!

[jason]

Blah.

[Smitty]

that's was a crazy game!

[hollywood]

Were both offenses that strong or the defenses that weak?

[Bosqueville]

Wow. What a game!

[db8coach]

Both offenses were good. Tivy has some really good and fast backs who were killing the Steers smaller secondary. The Antlers couldn't stop the Steer rushing attack. And WOW that last play.

[Sweetwater Red]

Both offenses were good. Tivy has some really good and fast backs who were killing the Steers smaller secondary. The Antlers couldn't stop the Steer rushing attack. And WOW that last play.

Definitely one for the ages. Tannehill threw the ball up in the left corner of the end zone and my first thought was "oh boy, I see more
white jerseys (BS) than blue (Tivy). The Tivy crowd went silent waiting for the call and when a TD was signaled , several responded
with sounds that resembled being punched in the gut.

Here is a view from my seat. I expected more Big Spring fans to be there given the Steers recent upswing and it being Saturday.
They sure missed an instant classic.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg53/detroit8990/imagejpg1.jpg

[Sville]

Any video of that last play?

[jason]

They seem to live and die by the jump ball or Tannehill scramble. Did it a bunch vs Stephenville last year. It appears they still can't stop anybody.

[db8coach]

Nice pre-game photo. There were more fans than that by the end of the game. At that point it was 98 degrees in full sun.

[db8coach]

They seem to live and die by the jump ball or Tannehill scramble. Did it a bunch vs Stephenville last year. It appears they still can't stop anybody.

There was only 2 jump balls. Both for Touchdowns.

[hollywood]

They seem to live and die by the jump ball or Tannehill scramble. Did it a bunch vs Stephenville last year. It appears they still can't stop anybody.

Agree.. scramble, throw it up and hope to catch it. They will evenly meet their match this season. Just takes a decent defense with a good game plan. A delayed blitz on little Tannehill should do the trick. ;)

[db8coach]

Tvy did the delayed blitz last night...and Tannehill made them pay on the second to last score. But, I'm telling you that there were only 2 jump balls yesterday and one of them was the Hail Mary. But as for eventually meeting their match? You are probably right. But it's because they hit an offense that can score more than them.

[pirate4state]

@dctf: Wouldn't be Week 1 without drama & controversy! Here's video of the last play of Big Spring-Kerrville Tivy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U4pSt1QD4 #txhsfb

[jason]

Dang Tivy got screwed.

[Saggy Aggie]

yep, bad call.

[ccmom]

@dctf: Wouldn't be Week 1 without drama & controversy! Here's video of the last play of Big Spring-Kerrville Tivy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U4pSt1QD4 #txhsfb

Hmmmm...

[YTBulldogs]

Poor mechanics. B should be on end line. Not GL. Would of had a great view. Though, I think he still seen it here out of position, but--didn't over rule.

[hollywood]

@dctf: Wouldn't be Week 1 without drama & controversy! Here's video of the last play of Big Spring-Kerrville Tivy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U4pSt1QD4 #txhsfb

LOL.. Bout right. Ball clearly hit the turf before #32 landed on it. Wow

[YTBulldogs]

Tivy robbed.

[Snotbubbles]

Kerrville get's the antler up the arse in Big Spring. Where is this crew from? Avoid chapter if possible. LOL. WOW!!!!!!

I agree, the lil zebra on goal line was about to make the right call, then said, I'm a homer. LOL.

[Snotbubbles]

Both offenses were good. Tivy has some really good and fast backs who were killing the Steers smaller secondary. The Antlers couldn't stop the Steer rushing attack. And WOW that last play.

The incomplete play?

[db8coach]

It was a neutral site game with San Angelo chapter IIRC.

[db8coach]

The incomplete play?

I'm telling you that in live action it looked like a completion.

[hollywood]

I'm telling you that in live action it looked like a completion.

From the stands at the wrong angle! Lol

The ref right there was obviously lost on the play.

[YTBulldogs]

I'm telling you that in live action it looked like a completion.

I'm sure. But, if BJ is where he should of been (end line back of end zone, not on goal line), it's easily seen. And, like pointed out, I think he still seen it out of position and was about to rule incomplete it appeared on video and bail his wing official out. But, he failed in saving the crew and getting call right. No excuse for being out of position. Missed calls happen (the wing had that here signalling TD) but--BJ are taught like safety's, never let anyone behind ya, and when threatened, the end line (back of end zone) is yours, period.

[db8coach]

The ref was out of position, but that happens all the time. As does refs 20 yards away from the play calling a penalty that he clearly couldn't see. Bang-Bang plays are hard to see or call. You have the advantage of a slow-mo, the refs did/do not.

[db8coach]

If I was on the other side of that I'd probably be pissed. But the ref made a mistake in a game, it happens in H.S., college, and the pros. AND, a person told me one time...do be in a position where something like that can happen in the first place.

[YTBulldogs]

The ref was out of position, but that happens all the time. As does refs 20 yards away from the play calling a penalty that he clearly couldn't see. Bang-Bang plays are hard to see or call. You have the advantage of a slow-mo, the refs did/do not.

Wrong. It don't happen all the time, being out of position I mean. That's the one thing we should always get right with hustle and mechanics. Especially with D1 officials this most likely was. And, you should never call something you don't see completely, without assistance. If you have doubt on a completion, it's always incomplete. Bang, bang easy to see (if in position) hard to call I agree with.

On this play, had the two came together to discuss before ruling, I think the right call is made.

[db8coach]

I don't think the other ref saw it because of the bodies....Catch/non catches happen all the time (and I would dare to call you a liar if you say that they don't). This one happened to be a game winner, which sucks for the Tivy folks and benefited the Big Spring Folks...

[hollywood]

If the BJ is supposed to be behind the play, he had ample time due to the scramble by the QB AND it was obviously going to be a Hail Mary with just seconds left. He should have been at the back line of the end zone. Doesn't matter now, crazy game anyway. Good to see both programs competing until the very end! Kinda like Stephenville never gave up in last years game vs Big Spring. Play to the end.

[YTBulldogs]

I don't think the other ref saw it because of the bodies....Catch/non catches happen all the time (and I would dare to call you a liar if you say that they don't). This one happened to be a game winner, which sucks for the Tivy folks and benefited the Big Spring Folks...

Not sure I'm a liar (why would I lie about this), but--I know we are trained and its a rule, when a catch is in doubt, it's to be ruled incomplete. Rule 2-4-3-h. And, it's clear he didn't see it, cause he made the wrong call. He made a call without seeing the entire play. Nono.

Regards to being out of position. This is what you set yourself up for, when out of position. Yes, it happens. Mainly in sub-varsity with greenies, lazy officials, or at times, just taking plays off. Often? Not at this classification this game was. Being a Sat night game, I'd be shocked if this wasn't some of this chapters best D1 officials, cause only a few Sat games are played.

[skins4life]

Dang Tivy got screwed. Yep. I'm wondering :thinking: why the ref trailing didn't over rule the call. You could clearly see the ball hit the ground from his angle with the slow motion of course. Live, I'm not so sure about.

[YTBulldogs]

Yep. I'm wondering :thinking: why the ref trailing didn't over rule the call. You could clearly see the ball hit the ground from his angle with the slow motion of course. Live, I'm not so sure about.

You watch it, it sure looks like he wanted (little flinch) to signal incomplete. Bet the crew and chapter wishing he had.

[Corn Cob]

I think there should be a system in place where UIL has the ability to discipline a referee (and/or crew) for making such a "game changing" horrible call. Mistakes are going to be made. That's part of the game. But calls like this are unacceptable and a referee (and/or crew) should be held accountable.

[YTBulldogs]

I think there should be a system in place where UIL has the ability to discipline a referee (and/or crew) for making such a "game changing" horrible call.

There is. Crews/official get punished. I seen it used for wrong rules enforcement in a playoff game.

[Corn Cob]

There is. Crews/official get punished. I seen it used for wrong rules enforcement in a playoff game.

That's good. They should be punished. Thanks YTB. But you never hear anything about officials being punished for such horrible calls. I hope this particular referee (and crew) have a hard time sleeping at night this next week, knowing that they totally screwed a team, coaching staff, and community out of a victory.

[db8coach]

I'm telling you; live, it looked like a catch. And, YTbulldogs, if you are a ref, you probably have called non catches catches before. In my 30+ years of watching high school football, I've seen more non-catch catches than I can count.

[db8coach]

If we are going to crucify refs for post-facto video "proof," what happens in the future when someone not-so-honest and with far more video editing ability fakes mistakes?

[regaleagle]

#32 for BS did a good job turning to the play and reaching for the ball, even though it hit the ground first. His body shielded the trailing ref in real motion, and the rest of the Big Spring players "sold" the other ref on the catch....because his view was shielded too by the mass of players in the EZ. No replay in high school, and the refs have to make a call in real time. Sounds like BS still played a great game, and Tannehill did a great job getting that ball there.

[YTBulldogs]

I'm telling you; live, it looked like a catch. And, YTbulldogs, if you are a ref, you probably have called non catches catches before. In my 30+ years of watching high school football, I've seen more non-catch catches than I can count.

Just saying, "we" know when it's a BIG play (like a winning tremendous catch, no catch via the hail mary) and you didn't have visible contact all the way of the ball , and both officials standing in endzone near a play, please slow down (he was hurried to signal TD) and speak to the other official standing there, before deciding the outcome. That I know is the recommended procedure . Yes, I have ruled on these before, and missed them too, before a co-official came in and bailed me out in varsity games. Sub-varsity, well---they usually end up like this one did. We don't have any help to correct at this level out there. Usually just 2 or 3 of us to make the calls.

[Corn Cob]

Just saying, "we" know when it's a BIG play (like a winning tremendous catch, no catch via the hail mary) and you didn't have visible contact all the way of the ball , and both officials standing in endzone near a play, please slow down (he was hurried to signal TD) and speak to the other official standing there, before deciding the outcome. That I know is the recommended procedure . Yes, I have ruled on these before, and missed them too, before a co-official came in and bailed me out in varsity games. Sub-varsity, well---they usually end up like this one did. We don't have any help to correct at this level out there. Usually just 2 or 3 of us to make the calls.

Great answer from someone who has obviously been on a football field many times, in situations similar to this one.

[Celina8]

I don't really have much comment on the video as I really cannot tell if the kid caught the ball or if it hit the ground . I do know that being a Ref in any sport is very time consuming, requires a great deal of sacrifice and the pay is not the best. Many chapters are looking for more people to join and be trained as there is a shortage and before you start trying to punish those that do make mistakes be careful as many will just say you know this is not really worth my time. Now as any coach will tell you especially in a game with a score of 56 to 52 I bet there were a few other plays that the Ref played no part in that Tivey could have won that game.

[hollywood]

For those that couldn't see the ball bounce off the turf before the BS player picked it up in the video... Watch the video until the end. If you still can't see it, you need to get yours eyes checked! Granted, in live game speed, it would have been tougher to see the that, but that simply means two key things happened, 1) the ref's view was obstructed and/or 2) most likely what happened, the ref wasn't paying attention enough to the play, lost the ball, saw the BS players celebrating and assumed the player caught the ball from the tip. Good thing this game was a predistrict game and especially not a playoff game!

[db8coach]

I've watched the video several times...sometimes I think the ball bounces...sometimes I can see a black gloved hand and not the ball. The close up/slo-mo is pixilated. The two teams have to play again at the same bat time and same bat place next year. So there will be a little more to the game than just a neutral site predistrict game.

[Sweetwater Red]

The two teams have to play again at the same bat time and same bat place next year. So there will be a little more to the game than just a neutral site predistrict game.

Is that game scheduled to be played on a Saturday afternoon also?

[db8coach]

Is that game scheduled to be played on a Saturday afternoon also?

As far as I know. I think it was in the two year contract.

[Sweetwater Red]

[QUOTE=db8coach;1819515]As far as I know. I think it was in the two year

Great. I'll try to make it back down there if possible.

[Snotbubbles]

I've watched the video several times...sometimes I think the ball bounces...sometimes I can see a black gloved hand and not the ball.

Your either a JH coach (homer) from BS, or you need to visit TSO for glasses. Ball clearly hit turf. Watch the ref on goal, he started to signal incomplete until super ref jumped in and wanted to make the call of the year.

[Snotbubbles]

Just watched it from beginning to end for the 20th time. Ref on goal line could of saved day by running in, and over ruling Super Zebra. He damn near made the right call at first. But, I believe anytime someone see's ball hit ground, it trumps the one saying it's a catch. Might be wrong, but--I never seen it the other way around.

Spilt milk. I'm in the camp of another poster. You give up that many points, this play didn't beat ya. Both sux.

[movethechain]

I watched the replay and the ball bounced off the ground. That's my opinion and unfortunately, this is not the first time I have disagreed with a call on the field of play. :dispntd:

[db8coach]

http://bigspringherald.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_photo/20140830-211952-HunterHillCatchingTheGameWinningPass.jpg

[jason]

Tivy should protest

[Roughneck93]

Ball clearly bounces off the turf....

https://i.imgflip.com/bpsmd.gif

[Saggy Aggie]

http://bigspringherald.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_photo/20140830-211952-HunterHillCatchingTheGameWinningPass.jpg
Yeah... Nice catch after it bounced off the turf lol

[Snotbubbles]

http://bigspringherald.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_photo/20140830-211952-HunterHillCatchingTheGameWinningPass.jpg

Great find coach of the ball hitting turf. :2thumbsup Clearly shows hands not even in contact with the ball here, while on turf. Above live clip show's it perfect though.

[db8coach]

The ball isn't on the turf in the photo...see the shadow underneath... And you guys claim you can see the ball bouncing. And, I think there is another reason I can't really tell if that is the ball bouncing in slo-mo. The tivy player wearing black shoes in the background moves which COULD account for what appears to be the ball bouncing...

[db8coach]

Tivy should protest

Protest what? A bad call? A good call? An inconclusive call? In a non-district game out of conference....

[jason]

Protest what? A bad call? A good call? An inconclu Isive call? In a non-district game out of conference....

It cost me a point in a weekly pickem published in the local newspaper. I wouldn't care otherwise.

[db8coach]

It cost me a point in a weekly pickem published in the local newspaper. I wouldn't care otherwise.

Should have picked the "district" team.

[jason]

Should have picked the "district" team.
Why? I was right picking Tivy!!

[Saggy Aggie]

The ball isn't on the turf in the photo...see the shadow underneath... And you guys claim you can see the ball bouncing. And, I think there is another reason I can't really tell if that is the ball bouncing in slo-mo. The tivy player wearing black shoes in the background moves which COULD account for what appears to be the ball bouncing...

LOL, c'mon man....

It is painfully obvious from multiple camera views that the ball bounces... Apparently everyone on this thread can see it except you

[db8coach]

Why? I was right picking Tivy!!

According to the final results...you weren't.

[db8coach]

LOL, c'mon man....

It is painfully obvious from multiple camera views that the ball bounces... Apparently everyone on this thread can see it except you

Multiple? One pixilated slow-mo videos doesn't make "multiple camera views"

[Snotbubbles]

Here, view this db8coach. One in Big Spring for ya. How you see your junior high kids playing out there?

http://www.zennioptical.com/men?Ns=sku.isNew|1

[YTBulldogs]

Here, view this db8coach. One in Big Spring for ya. How you see your junior high kids playing out there?

http://www.zennioptical.com/men?Ns=sku.isNew|1


:spitlol:

[db8coach]

Here, view this db8coach. One in Big Spring for ya. How you see your junior high kids playing out there?

http://www.zennioptical.com/men?Ns=sku.isNew|1

I really don't understand the Jr. High comment...and I have more than perfect vision...Maybe that's the prob, yall are the ones that need spectacles.

[hollywood]

db8coach is obviously a homer. Let him think it was a catch. He'll debate it forever. Everyone else can see it hit the turf pretty clearly, unless you have gold colored lenses framed in black. Good grief

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Ok, here goes.

I have absolutely NO dog in this fight, and I've just finished watching the YouTube video.

Pause the video at 3:06 and you can clearly see the ball hitting the turf, and #32 from Big Spring's right hand not under the ball. Incomplete pass, and Kerrville Tivy should have won.

And before any Big Spring peeps offer me links to optometrists or anything of that nature, my vision is better than 20/20, so any links of that nature, to me, are irrelevant.

[Saggy Aggie]

Lol, more than 10 unbiased ppl agree that it's incomplete without any doubt and this one homer thinks we're all blind haha

[hollywood]

Exactly Saggy, no one that's posted their view has an interest in this game. It would be a little different if the Tivy fans were debated with BS fans... Haha, BS fans. Even if so, Tivy fans would sure have solid evidence it was NOT a catch to base their view. And, here we are. Still have to defend our view and we don't even care about that game! Lol

[Txbroadcaster]

ball hit the ground...bad call, great ending.

[lostaussie]

Wow.......just read this thread. This one was amazing!!!

[Snotbubbles]

Lol, more than 10 unbiased ppl agree that it's incomplete without any doubt and this one homer thinks we're all blind haha

I know one thing, next years game should be on ESPN. On the Thursday night. Think bd8coach would go for that? Me either after seeing his post on the Ville/Cooper thread. LOL. I'm hearing Sags, Johnnie Football is aware of this, and is thinking of suiting up for Tivy in 2015. Had he been in this game, it's a non-issue cause BS would be a half a hundred behind when the ball hit the turf.

[Snotbubbles]

I found db8coach's photo at last year's Big Spring Sports Banquet. Now I know why he thinks it was a catch.

http://91.207.61.14/m/uploads/v_p_images/1989/01/423_1_screenshot.png

[hollywood]

I found db8coach's photo at last year's Big Spring Sports Banquet. Now I know why he thinks it was a catch.

http://91.207.61.14/m/uploads/v_p_images/1989/01/423_1_screenshot.png

:spitlol:

[YTBulldogs]

OMG. I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.:spitlol:

[YTBulldogs]

Might add: Harlem Nights, one of my favorite movies. Great find Snot. :thumbsup:

[GrTigers6]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U4pSt1QD4

[hollywood]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8U4pSt1QD4

Let's hear it GrTigers6?

[GrTigers6]

It looks to me he scooped it off the ground. The back judge should, in my opinion, have been on the endline and that might have solved this problem. They are saying that the guy who made the call was out of position but he has the goalline so he needs to stay put until the ball has no chance of being batted back to it. Its a tough call to make but I think if the BJ would have been on the endline he may have been able to see it more clearly.

[db8coach]

Got some clarification on the call. The Ref said that the first receiver caught the ball with BOTH feet down before the ball was swatted out of his arm. <------------ Not me saying this...for clarification (before you try to bash...

[db8coach]

I found db8coach's photo at last year's Big Spring Sports Banquet. Now I know why he thinks it was a catch.

http://91.207.61.14/m/uploads/v_p_images/1989/01/423_1_screenshot.png

Couldn't be me, I was with my students who were placing at UIL Academic State last year during the sports banquet.

[hollywood]

Got some clarification on the call. The Ref said that the first receiver caught the ball with BOTH feet down before the ball was swatted out of his arm. <------------ Not me saying this...for clarification (before you try to bash...

Lol.. First receiver never had possession! Now that's stretching it. Clarification from who? BS booster club?

[db8coach]

Lol.. First receiver never had possession! Now that's stretching it. Clarification from who? BS booster club?

People who talked with the ref...I'm just relaying the info.

[hollywood]

People who talked with the ref...I'm just relaying the info.

Ok db8coach, honestly tell me you see that the receiver who touched the ball first had control of the ball. You're the only one out of how many others on this board that is still debating that it's a catch for a TD. Some that have commented are current refs. This would get overturned in NCAA and NFL. Is the horse dead yet?!

[db8coach]

Ok db8coach, honestly tell me you see that the receiver who touched the ball first had control of the ball. You're the only one out of how many others on this board that is still debating that it's a catch for a TD. Some that have commented are current refs. This would get overturned in NCAA and NFL. Is the horse dead yet?!

Like I said, I didn't say it....Don't kill the messenger.

[ccmom]

Like I said, I didn't say it....Don't kill the messenger.

No, what you said was that what others think is the ball on the ground, is actually someone's shoe...or something incredibly reasonable like that :rolleyes:

By the way, I enjoy your posts. Wylie vs Big Spring should be a fun week. ;)

[db8coach]

No, what you said was that what others think is the ball on the ground, is actually someone's shoe...or something incredibly reasonable like that :rolleyes:

By the way, I enjoy your posts. Wylie vs Big Spring should be a fun week. ;)

Big Spring will lose that one, they can't seem to beat any team from Wylie...Except the Speech & Debate team, they stomp Wylie.

[Saggy Aggie]

LOL, the first guy had possession huh?

[GrTigers6]

You have to "COMPLETE the Catch" two hands on the ball( which he never had) and two feet down is not completing the catch. He must maintain possession all the way thru the process. Pretty much be able to hand the ball to the official lol
Basically for him to have completed that catch he would have to end up laying on the ground with the ball in possession.

[EagleEye]

I heard that the two ref's are upset that their names were mentioned. I don't know why they are upset. I mean if their names really are Ronnie Millsap and Ray Charles so be it. LOL

[hollywood]

Legit game winning catch.


http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/yourstephenvilletx.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/c7/4c7d9364-cfdd-5e3d-9126-5c1a80517708/52f16db360306.preview-300.jpg

[YTBulldogs]

Legit game winning catch.


http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/yourstephenvilletx.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/c7/4c7d9364-cfdd-5e3d-9126-5c1a80517708/52f16db360306.preview-300.jpg

Not yet, hasn't returned to earth. :wave: But, I bet he hung on in bounds.

[db8coach]

Legit game winning catch.


http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/yourstephenvilletx.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/c7/4c7d9364-cfdd-5e3d-9126-5c1a80517708/52f16db360306.preview-300.jpg


Doesn't look like he is going to land in bounds, so a photo should not be used...Joke! Don't get all malignant.

[hollywood]

Doesn't look like he is going to land in bounds, so a photo should not be used...Joke! Don't get all malignant.

As ccmom would respond... :rolleyes:. She's famous you know.

Just :stirpot:

:wave: