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SHSBulldog00
12-02-2013, 04:09 PM
My thoughts on what could happen come February.

This is all STC (subject to change)

Let the complaining commence.

Division 2

Region 1

District 1 - Pampa, Borger, Levelland, Lubbock Estacado, Seminole, Snyder
District 2 - San Elizario, Andrews, Big Spring, Clint Mountain View, Fabens
District 3 - Burkburnett, Mineral Wells, Decatur, Sanger, WF Hirschi, Gainesville, Argyle, Graham
District 4 - Lampasas, Abilene Wylie, Stephenville, Alvarado, Liberty Hill, Burnet, Brownwood

Region 2

District 5 - Dallas Carter, Kennedale, Dallas Pinkston, FW Diamond Hill-Jarvis, River Oaks Castleberry, Springtown, Lake Worth
District 6 - Crandall, Wilmer-Hutchins, Quinlan Ford, Wills Point, Van
District 7 - Terrell, Kaufman, Athens, Mabank, Brownsboro, Palestine
District 8 - Princeton, Paris, Paris North Lamar, Carrollton Ranchview, Pittsburg

Region 3

District 9 - Kilgore, Tyler Chapel Hill, Henderson, Carthage, Texarkana Liberty-Eylau
District 10 - Taylor, Gatesville, Navasota, Waco La Vega, Robinson, China Spring
District 11 - Little Cypress-Mauriceville, Splendora, Cleveland, Huffman Hargrave, Silsbee, Bridge City, Jasper
District 12 - Houston Yates, Houston Sterling, Houston Furr, Houston Wheatley, Houston Washington, Houston Worthing

Region 4

District 13 - Stafford, El Campo, Brazosport, Bay City, West Columbia, Needville, Sealy
District 14 - Pleasanton, Beeville Jones, Rockport-Fulton, Robstown, Gonzales
District 15 - Boerne, La Vernia, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake, Bandera
District 16 - RGC La Grulla, La Feria, Kingsville King, Zapata, Hidalgo

refereedoc
12-02-2013, 04:36 PM
You may want to flip 4 & 5 with regions.

SHSBulldog00
12-02-2013, 04:42 PM
You may want to flip 4 & 5 with regions.

Glad you caught that cause I didn't.

LHPfactory
12-02-2013, 04:44 PM
District 4 will be a blood bath, let alone its a 7 team district....

SHSBulldog00
12-02-2013, 04:47 PM
District 4 will be a blood bath, let alone its a 7 team district....

District 4 will be the Little SWC.

jason
12-02-2013, 04:48 PM
District 4 will be a blood bath, let alone its a 7 team district....
maybe for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th

Rabid Cougar
12-02-2013, 04:49 PM
My thoughts on what could happen come February.

This is all STC (subject to change)

Let the complaining commence.

Division 2

Region 1


District 4 - Lampasas, Abilene Wylie, Stephenville, Alvarado, Liberty Hill, Burnet, Brownwood

Region 3

District 10 - Taylor, Gatesville, Navasota, Waco La Vega, Robinson, China Spring


There are some interchangeable parts in these two districts.

Rattler
12-02-2013, 04:55 PM
I would think Swap Argyle with Springtown for District 3 & 5. Its much closer and we already have mineral wells.
Argyle = 98.2 miles. Springtown = 71 miles.

bwdlionfan
12-02-2013, 05:21 PM
There are 95 teams listed here, if they try to make the districts even, that'd be 15 districts with 6 teams and one 5 team district. Region 1 district 2 as you have it would most likely be the one 5 team district.

I think Burkburnett gets pulled over to your District 1

Because Region 1 needs to lose 2 teams and Region 2 needs to gain 1, I see Alvarado and Argyle going to Region 2, and someone from Region 2 shifting to 3 or 4 (4 only had 22 teams in your scenario). But I don't really want to spend the time looking at the geography of all of those teams right now.

Here's what I think, and I'm mostly in agreement with you:

District 1 - Pampa, Borger, Levelland, Lubbock Estacado, Snyder, Burkburnett
District 2 - San Elizario, Andrews, Big Spring, Clint Mountain View, Fabens
District 3 - Mineral Wells, Decatur, WF Hirschi, Graham, Gainesville, and Sanger
District 4 - Lampasas, Abilene Wylie, Stephenville, Liberty Hill, Burnet, Brownwood

Then again LH, Burnet or Lampasas could go Region 4 and that'd allow Alvarado and Argyle to stay in Region 1. Who knows what'll happen

bird_fan
12-02-2013, 05:36 PM
District 13 would be cool for me I live in Van Vleck so travel is cool but i would miss Bellville in the district

db8coach
12-02-2013, 05:37 PM
Big Spring to Mountain View - 330 miles....one way...4 and a half hours....one way!

buckeyebob
12-02-2013, 05:57 PM
[QUOTE=SHSBulldog00;1790618]My thoughts on what could happen come February.

Region 3

District 9 - Kilgore, Tyler Chapel Hill, Henderson, Carthage, Texarkana Liberty-Eylau

Gotta include Pittsburg here They are between LE & all others...they would be left in right field if not...Metroplex would be their only option.

ApachePride
12-02-2013, 06:09 PM
Would the Dallas ISD schools opt up?

Roughneck93
12-02-2013, 06:15 PM
Region 4

District 13 - Stafford, El Campo, Brazosport, Bay City, West Columbia, Needville, Sealy

Like it...:2thumbsup

slingshot
12-02-2013, 06:48 PM
Big Spring gets royally screwed in this. Wow. Maybe the UIL will contribute to their travel budget...

LHPfactory
12-02-2013, 07:29 PM
maybe for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th


Yes, all is well in Stephenville, no worries, no sweat, ...... Rumor has it that the perfect storm is once again brewing in Liberty Hill.......

hollywood
12-02-2013, 07:37 PM
District 3: If this happens

Graham will actually actually have some competition in district! Lol

regaleagle
12-02-2013, 07:40 PM
:wave:

hollywood
12-02-2013, 07:43 PM
Y'all are leaving out Argyle. Argyle is 698 enrollment.

No...

Division 1

Region 1

District 1 - Pampa, Borger, Levelland, Lubbock Estacado, Snyder
District 2 - San Elizario, Andrews, Big Spring, Clint Mountain View, Fabens
District 3 - Burkburnett, Mineral Wells, Decatur, Sanger, WF Hirschi, Gainesville, Argyle, Graham
District 4 - Lampasas, Abilene Wylie, Stephenville, Alvarado, Liberty Hill, Burnet, Brownwood

LHPfactory
12-02-2013, 08:03 PM
SHS I believe I have come up with a much better Region 4:

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - SA Houston, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


Two 5 team and two 7 team districts, distributed nicely and frees up schools up north to zone better.

District 13 will also line up with my Youth league very well.... :)

YTBulldogs
12-02-2013, 08:21 PM
SHS I believe I have come up with a much better Region 4:

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - SA Houston, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


Two 5 team and two 7 team districts, distributed nicely and frees up schools up north to zone better.

District 13 will also line up with my Youth league very well.... :)

I believe SA Sam Houston opted up to the new 5A level. I think someone noted that a month back.

underthetepee
12-02-2013, 08:25 PM
what district is Gonzales in in your grand plan?
SHS I believe I have come up with a much better Region 4:

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - SA Houston, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


Two 5 team and two 7 team districts, distributed nicely and frees up schools up north to zone better.

District 13 will also line up with my Youth league very well.... :)

ApachePride
12-02-2013, 08:31 PM
SHS I believe I have come up with a much better Region 4:

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - SA Houston, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton,

Two 5 team and two 7 team districts, distributed nicely and frees up schools up north to zone better.

District 13 will also line up with my Youth league very well.... :)

Switch 13 & 14.,, 13 would be Reg 3... Put Gonzales where SA Houston is...

panfan
12-02-2013, 08:36 PM
SHS I believe I have come up with a much better Region 4:

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - SA Houston, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


Two 5 team and two 7 team districts, distributed nicely and frees up schools up north to zone better.

District 13 will also line up with my Youth league very well.... :)

I don't know about the other districts, but I can see district 13 looking similar to what factory has here since we have already been in a similar district like this before the last realignment.

db8coach
12-02-2013, 08:39 PM
Big Spring gets royally screwed in this. Wow. Maybe the UIL will contribute to their travel budget...

In these days of "tightening budgets" they would probably would have to cut budgets for "other activities"...again...to pay for those trips to El Paso.

LHPfactory
12-02-2013, 08:41 PM
Switch 13 & 14.,, 13 would be Reg 3... Put Gonzales where SA Houston is...

I saw SA Houston on the map so I thought the opt up was a rumor....

Yep, Gonzales would fit nicely in that district.

But Region 4 consists of 4 districts: 13, 14, 15, and 16. So No matter who is in 13 or 14, they will both be in R4.

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - Gonzales, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


How does this look for a nice tidy region 4?

fire_it_up
12-02-2013, 08:41 PM
SHS I believe I have come up with a much better Region 4:

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - SA Houston, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


Two 5 team and two 7 team districts, distributed nicely and frees up schools up north to zone better.

District 13 will also line up with my Youth league very well.... :)

Where does this leave Gonzales?

YTBulldogs
12-02-2013, 08:44 PM
I saw SA Houston on the map so I thought the opt up was a rumor....

Yep, Gonzales would fit nicely in that district.

But Region 4 consists of 4 districts: 13, 14, 15, and 16. So No matter who is in 13 or 14, they will both be in R4.

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - Gonzales, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


How does this look for a nice tidy region 4?

:2thumbsup No, Sam Hou will be opting up. Seen it on KSAT a few weeks back. They are tired of losing every game except Poteet. They will be more competitive in there with Edison, Memorial, Jeff, Highlands, etc.

LHPfactory
12-02-2013, 08:55 PM
I could also see R1 Shaping up:

District 1 - Mountain view, SanElzazrio, Fabens, Seminole, Andrews
District 2 - Borger, Pampa, Levelland, Lubbock Estacado, Burkburnet, WF Hirshi
District 3 - Snyder, Big Spring, Abilene Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Alvarado
District 4 - Graham, Sanger, Decatur, Argyle, Gainsville, Mineral Wells, Springtown

LHPfactory
12-02-2013, 09:03 PM
I saw SA Houston on the map so I thought the opt up was a rumor....

Yep, Gonzales would fit nicely in that district.

But Region 4 consists of 4 districts: 13, 14, 15, and 16. So No matter who is in 13 or 14, they will both be in R4.

District 13 - Liberty Hill, Lampasas, Burnet, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake

District 14 - Bay City, Brazosport, West Columbia, El Campo, Needville, Stafford, Sealy

District 15 - Gonzales, Pleasanton, La Vernia, Bandera, Boerne

District 16 - Hidalgo, La Grulla, Zapata, Kingsville, Robstown, Rockport-Fulton, Beeville


How does this look for a nice tidy region 4?

Ok, so I have done R1 and R4 for UIL, they can divide the rest up between R2 and R3, Not so hard...... :)

db8coach
12-02-2013, 09:04 PM
I could also see R1 Shaping up:

District 1 - Mountain view, SanElzazrio, Fabens, Seminole, Andrews
District 2 - Borger, Pampa, Levelland, Lubbock Estacado, Burkburnet, WF Hirshi
District 3 - Snyder, Big Spring, Abilene Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Alvarado
District 4 - Graham, Sanger, Decatur, Argyle, Gainsville, Mineral Wells, Springtown

With that line up, the winner of Region 1 would come out of district 3 or 4 every year.

megaman2184
12-02-2013, 09:06 PM
Wouldn't be shocked if they moved Beeville to D15 to even it out.

LHPfactory
12-02-2013, 09:33 PM
Wouldn't be shocked if they moved Beeville to D15 to even it out.

Yeah, that would also shorten the farthest point from the far southwest teams.

megaman2184
12-02-2013, 09:49 PM
Yeah, that would also shorten the farthest point from the far southwest teams.
Bee county line from San Pat. country line usually divides the districts in the Coastal Bend in Beevilles case. If they can't find a district to fit Beeville, they usually would throw them with the Victoria schools, Gregory-Portland and Floresville.

toddg
12-02-2013, 10:24 PM
maybe for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th

Yeah I agree.. I think Stephenville could nail down the 2nd spot.. But, there would be no shame with 3rd or 4th Jacket fans...Alvarado's crescendo starts next year..:)

Twirling Time
12-02-2013, 10:34 PM
District 5 - Dallas Carter, Kennedale, Dallas Pinkston, FW Diamond Hill-Jarvis, River Oaks Castleberry, Springtown, Lake Worth
District 6 - Crandall, Wilmer-Hutchins, Quinlan Ford, Wills Point, Van

Carter, Pinkston and Wilmer-Hutchins all have to go in the same district. They're all part of DISD.

Ville-D
12-02-2013, 11:21 PM
Yeah I agree.. I think Stephenville could nail down the 2nd spot.. But, there would be no shame with 3rd or 4th Jacket fans...Alvarado's crescendo starts next year..:)

Crescendo? Y'all getting the band back together?

NastySlot
12-02-2013, 11:23 PM
I could also see R1 Shaping up:

District 1 - Mountain view, SanElzazrio, Fabens, Seminole, Andrews
District 2 - Borger, Pampa, Levelland, Lubbock Estacado, Burkburnet, WF Hirshi
District 3 - Snyder, Big Spring, Abilene Wylie, Brownwood, Stephenville, Alvarado
District 4 - Graham, Sanger, Decatur, Argyle, Gainsville, Mineral Wells, Springtown


looks ok but wouldn't it make more sense to switch Mineral Wells with Alvarado? Maybe even move both Graham and MW to 3 haven't they at one time or another been in a district with most of the teams in Dist.3?

toddg
12-02-2013, 11:44 PM
Crescendo? Y'all getting the band back together?

LoL!! My Jacket killer is also in band..:)

football8
12-02-2013, 11:49 PM
The road to State runs through the Ville in Region 1, until somebody proves otherwise.

toddg
12-03-2013, 12:01 AM
The road to State runs through the Ville in Region 1, until somebody proves otherwise.

We are changing our name to the Alvarado Otherwises!! LoL

Manso/V8
12-03-2013, 12:04 AM
The road to State runs through the Ville in Region 1, until somebody proves otherwise.

True they are the SC's until they are knocked off, but since the yackets just barely escaped elimination to a 4th place team, the day they day they relinquish the title is probably not too far off.
Teams that drop down a classification seem to do real well for a year or two, then they just become a regular ole team.
Also, they tend to keep decreasing in enrollment and lose some of the numbers advantage.
I am sure the yacket fans think it is different in yacketland, but these cycles repeat.

hollywood
12-03-2013, 12:29 AM
Yeah I agree.. I think Stephenville could nail down the 2nd spot.. But, there would be no shame with 3rd or 4th Jacket fans...Alvarado's crescendo starts next year..:)

toddg, still got that broken record playing I see.

oldtownag
12-03-2013, 05:02 AM
District 9 = DOD

toddg
12-03-2013, 08:15 AM
toddg, still got that broken record playing I see.
I cut myself yesterday.. It's confirmed, I bleed purple!!:)

toddg
12-03-2013, 08:16 AM
District 9 = DOD
District of the Doomed?

slingshot
12-03-2013, 09:16 AM
District 9 = DODLooks more like District 3 is the DOD...

Gontex
12-03-2013, 09:17 AM
Big Spring gets royally screwed in this. Wow. Maybe the UIL will contribute to their travel budget...

You need to recognize that this is somebody's conjecture as to what the districts will look like and is in no way a final official version from the UIL. You never know what they are going to do. Sometimes their districts are logical and sometime they look like a democratically drawn house district from the state of Texas in the 1960's. Stay loose till they are released in February. You'll probably find that you spent a lot of time worrying about something that wasn't necessary. I can see Gonzales going west with some of the hill country schools such as Fredericksburg, Canyon Lake, Bandera, etc or they could go east with El Campo, Sealy etc. or they could go south with Beeville and Rockport Fulton. Just no real way to tell at this time.

Ville-D
12-03-2013, 11:58 PM
True they are the SC's until they are knocked off, but since the yackets just barely escaped elimination to a 4th place team, the day they day they relinquish the title is probably not too far off.
Teams that drop down a classification seem to do real well for a year or two, then they just become a regular ole team.
Also, they tend to keep decreasing in enrollment and lose some of the numbers advantage.
I am sure the yacket fans think it is different in yacketland, but these cycles repeat.

Lets hold judgement until the time comes. Our enrollment has fluctuated by about 10 to 15 students over the past few realignments - the top end of 3a (not 4a) keeps moving up. Not on any decline - especially in football talent.

I asked this to one of your brethren... Where are y'all playing this Friday night?

Twirling Time
12-04-2013, 01:41 AM
Interesting. Here are the cutoff numbers for 1952:

4A-1,000 and over
3A-500-999
2A-225-499
A-125-224
B- 124 and under

When you add a level to everyone, as the UIL did in 1980, you are very close to what the 5A and below numbers are in this upcoming realignment. So the state of Texas in 60 years has basically grown by one whole class.

LHPfactory
12-04-2013, 08:14 AM
Lets hold judgement until the time comes. Our enrollment has fluctuated by about 10 to 15 students over the past few realignments - the top end of 3a (not 4a) keeps moving up. Not on any decline - especially in football talent.

I asked this to one of your brethren... Where are y'all playing this Friday night?

Yeah, I wouldnt doubt that It will be pushed up over 1100 on the alignment after this one.

HEMOTOXIC
12-04-2013, 02:14 PM
My thoughts on what could happen come February.

This is all STC (subject to change)

Let the complaining commence.

Division 2

Region 1

District 1 - Pampa, Borger, Levelland, Lubbock Estacado, Seminole, Snyder
District 2 - San Elizario, Andrews, Big Spring, Clint Mountain View, Fabens
District 3 - Burkburnett, Mineral Wells, Decatur, Sanger, WF Hirschi, Gainesville, Argyle, Graham
District 4 - Lampasas, Abilene Wylie, Stephenville, Alvarado, Liberty Hill, Burnet, Brownwood

Region 2

District 5 - Dallas Carter, Kennedale, Dallas Pinkston, FW Diamond Hill-Jarvis, River Oaks Castleberry, Springtown, Lake Worth
District 6 - Crandall, Wilmer-Hutchins, Quinlan Ford, Wills Point, Van
District 7 - Terrell, Kaufman, Athens, Mabank, Brownsboro, Palestine
District 8 - Princeton, Paris, Paris North Lamar, Carrollton Ranchview, Pittsburg

Region 3

District 9 - Kilgore, Tyler Chapel Hill, Henderson, Carthage, Texarkana Liberty-Eylau
District 10 - Taylor, Gatesville, Navasota, Waco La Vega, Robinson, China Spring
District 11 - Little Cypress-Mauriceville, Splendora, Cleveland, Huffman Hargrave, Silsbee, Bridge City, Jasper
District 12 - Houston Yates, Houston Sterling, Houston Furr, Houston Wheatley, Houston Washington, Houston Worthing

Region 4

District 13 - Stafford, El Campo, Brazosport, Bay City, West Columbia, Needville, Sealy
District 14 - Pleasanton, Beeville Jones, Rockport-Fulton, Robstown, Gonzales
District 15 - Boerne, La Vernia, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake, Bandera
District 16 - RGC La Grulla, La Feria, Kingsville King, Zapata, Hidalgo


I was reading in the Houston Chronicle that JY will be moving up to 5A. I also saw one scenerio that would place both Navasota and Sealy in the district with the 5 remaining HISD school. Travel wise, that would be best for both Navasota and Sealy. If Navasota goes north with the Waco area schools, that will be some very long drives.

SHSBulldog00
12-04-2013, 03:11 PM
I was reading in the Houston Chronicle that JY will be moving up to 5A. I also saw one scenerio that would place both Navasota and Sealy in the district with the 5 remaining HISD school. Travel wise, that would be best for both Navasota and Sealy. If Navasota goes north with the Waco area schools, that will be some very long drives.

I will have to look into that JY info but what you said does sound good.

LHPfactory
12-04-2013, 06:15 PM
My thoughts on what could happen come February.

This is all STC (subject to change)

Let the complaining commence.

Division 2

Region 1


District 3 - Burkburnett, Mineral Wells, Decatur, Sanger, WF Hirschi, Gainesville, Argyle, Graham
District 4 - Lampasas, Abilene Wylie, Stephenville, Alvarado, Liberty Hill, Burnet, Brownwood

SHS the worst part about this is you crammed 8 teams in 3 and 7 teams in 4. These are the biggest districts in the state with some of the best teams. Then down south you have a 5 team district with teams that never contend. These would be a very poor arrangement for many reasons more than what I have stated.

db8coach
12-04-2013, 06:23 PM
SHS the worst part about this is you crammed 8 teams in 3 and 7 teams in 4. These are the biggest districts in the state with some of the best teams. Then down south you have a 5 team district with teams that never contend. These would be a very poor arrangement for many reasons more than what I have stated.

Again, the UIL doesn't really look at competitive balance. They look at school size and relative distance.

Roughneck93
12-04-2013, 06:30 PM
I was reading in the Houston Chronicle that JY will be moving up to 5A. I also saw one scenerio that would place both Navasota and Sealy in the district with the 5 remaining HISD school. Travel wise, that would be best for both Navasota and Sealy. If Navasota goes north with the Waco area schools, that will be some very long drives.

Read that as well...

UIL reveals enrollment cutoffs for 6A down to A
By Angel Verdejo
December 3, 2013

Reagan football coach Stephen Dixon was at both ends of the spectrum in talking about his Bulldogs moving up to compete in the state's largest classification next year.


The University Interscholastic League on Monday released the conference cutoff numbers for the 2014-2016 reclassification and realignment, doing so for the first time instead of waiting until February when the new districts will be released. The numbers provide the range of enrollment for each of the six conferences, including the divisional cutoffs for football.

Domino effect

The names also change - the current Class 5A becomes 6A and on down. Six-Man becomes Class 1A. The 6A/5A cutoff is 2,100.

Reagan, which won a district championship for the first time in 54 years, turned in 2,190. The Bulldogs will go from the third-largest school in their classification to one of the smaller 6A teams.

"We kind of saw it coming," Dixon said. "Everything has been increasing, and more students are wanting to come to Reagan. We just have to roll with the punches.

"Coming off the year we had, we were prime to be a 5A power - a school that can consistently be known around the area. But now we're jumping up and back to where we started from."

Others likely to join Reagan in moving up include Summer Creek, Northbrook, Friendswood, Montgomery, Dawson and Milby.

On the other side, Bush, Elkins and Madison are likely to drop down to the new Class 5A.

Also, Yates would move up to 5A, and Wheatley would move down to 4A.

Fort Bend approach

Before Ridge Point opened, Fort Bend ISD had its 10 schools together, opting for smaller schools to move up to keep everyone together. Ridge Point joined Marshall and Willowridge, which both dropped down during the last realignment (2012-14).

"This time we thought we would try something different," Fort Bend ISD athletic director Philip O'Neal said. "It's a kid-based decision to give them a chance to compete against schools with like enrollments."

The 2014-16 alignments will be released Feb. 3 for football and basketball, with alignments for other activities released in the order of their seasons.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/highschool/article/UIL-reveals-enrollment-cutoffs-for-6A-down-to-A-5029087.php

Roughneck93
12-04-2013, 07:39 PM
Here's an article from The Facts discussing realignment in southern Brazoria Coumty...

Realignment could change football landscape
WHERE WILL THEY ALL FIT IN?
JOEL LUNA joel.luna@thefacts.com | Posted: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 2:00 am

The release Monday of University Interscholastic League’s enrollment classification numbers could bring some change to the southern Brazoria County football landscape.

This is the first time the UIL has released the class cutoff numbers before February, when they formerly were released along with realignment.

Realignment for football and basketball is to be announced Feb. 3. Realignments for all other sports will be released closer to their seasons.

Monday’s release of the enrollment cutoff numbers gives teams a clarification on what their classification will be next season.

With the introduction of Class 6A next year, some teams will move up a class. 5A teams that meet the 2,100 and above student body cutoff will become 6A teams.

Brazoria County schools that will be in 6A are Brazoswood and Pearland Dawson, along with Friendswood and Dickinson in Galveston County.

Locally, Brazoswood, Brazosport, Angleton, Columbia and Sweeny could all be affected once realignment comes around.

Brazoswood, with an enrollment of 2,432 students, will be a 6A, but in what district it lands is a good question.

“We are going to be fourth or fifth in a district of seven or eight teams,” Brazosport ISD Associate Athletics Director and Brazoswood football coach Dean DeAtley said. “We could stay in the original 24-5A from the 1980s and add Friendswood to that mix, along with all the Clear schools and Dickinson. But I have also heard that us and Dickinson could go to the new 23-6A with the Fort Bend schools because some of those schools are going down.”

Two years ago, Brazoswood had an enrollment of 2,474 students.

“We are kind of a school that is hanging in the balance, we have some possibilities, kind of like Angleton, either to the Fort Bend end or we continue staying where we are at.”

So did the release of these numbers by the UIL help?

“It is more speculation than anything, and for us it doesn’t help us because we knew we were going to be a 6A,” DeAtley said.

“It might help someone like Brazosport scheduling-wise, but not so for 6A schools.”

Angleton turned in 1,840 and is a clear-cut 5A school (1,060-2,099), but where the Wildcats land also is a big question.

“The numbers came out exactly the way I thought, and with possibly Fort Bend Bush and Elkins dropping down something has to give,” Angleton ISD Athletics Director and football coach Ryan Roark said. “Four of the Lamar schools will be 5A, but what is 24-4A right now will be losing Dawson and Friendswood to 6A. So we have to go somewhere.”

Angleton could stay in the same district with Lamar Consolidated ISD schools, head to the Fort Bend area or go back to the Santa Fe area.

In a much-anticipated move, Brazosport (984 students) will drop down to what will be the new Class 4A, with its numbers ranging between, 465-1,059 students.

“I think it is a good thing for Brazosport to kind of even out the playing field a bit,” Brazosport ISD Associate Athletics Director and Brazosport football coach Ben Rudolph said. “It does make a difference, but competition-wise it doesn’t get more easy with Wharton, Columbia and Sweeny because those are tremendous 3A schools.”

Two years ago, Brazosport turned in 1,018 students.

“You’d like to have the same amount of kids across from you, but when you have a 4A school whose quarterback doesn’t play both ways like ours did, then it does make a difference,” Rudolph said. “For this school and all of the sports we offer, and all other activities under the umbrella, it is a good thing.”

Football prognosticator Carl Padilla has Brazosport joining Stafford, El Campo, Bay City, Columbia, Needville, Rockport Fulton and Beeville Jones in a district. Bay City will also be dropping down from the current 4A.

“This is unchartered territory for us and the UIL,” Rudolph said.

Columbia and Sweeny will remain where they are, but will be Class 4A schools next year.

Columbia turned in a count of 845.5, with the new 4A district between 465-1,059.

“We’ve been anticipating with what we turned in,” Columbia ISD Athletics Director Randy Lynch said. “Here’s what the UIL is doing, eliminating Week 0 and adding an A to everybody.”

That means football seasons will begin with Week 1.

“Our nondistrict schedule will now change a little bit for us because two of those opponents we scrimmage (El Campo, Wharton),” Lynch said.

Columbia will remain a Division I program.

Sweeny turned in between 564-568 students, according to Sweeny ISD Athletics director Paul Kilby.

“We knew we’d be right in the middle of Division II,” he said.

“Now getting us to the 4A thing, that could be hard.”

Danbury will not be affected much after turning in an enrollment of 245.

“We are still going to be a Division II, and it looks like the same district except we might lose Hitchcock,” Danbury ISD Athletics Director Jimmy Thomas said.

So with every current classification moving up a letter, UIL six-man football will become Class 1A.

In 59 days, everything else will be resolved.

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LHPfactory
12-04-2013, 08:12 PM
Again, the UIL doesn't really look at competitive balance. They look at school size and relative distance.

I and most all know that, I was citing reasons other than the obvious. If district 4 in RI were to be as drawn up by SHS you place several Schools 150 plus miles apart. Yes I know that there will be schools in the Pan Handle, West Texas, and South Texas that will have this for the norm, its just a reality for remote areas of a state this large.

However it is senseless to do this to any of the programs that are concentrated around Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, or Fort Worth when a better solution is available...

District 4 RI violates the relative distance goal, when better options are obviously available.

If you send LH and Burnet to Region 4 the LONGEST trips are only around 80-90 miles apart.

The excessive number of teams in a single district and the concentration of powers is just icing on the cake, not considered, but part of a bad plan gone worse if that speculation became a reality.

LH-950, Burnet-924, Fredericksburg-952, Canyon Lake-888, Taylor-974, and or Lampasas-1017 are all very close to the same size and the distances are much better as a whole.

SHSBulldog00
12-04-2013, 08:48 PM
I and most all know that, I was citing reasons other than the obvious. If district 4 in RI were to be as drawn up by SHS you place several Schools 150 plus miles apart. Yes I know that there will be schools in the Pan Handle, West Texas, and South Texas that will have this for the norm, its just a reality for remote areas of a state this large.

However it is senseless to do this to any of the programs that are concentrated around Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, or Fort Worth when a better solution is available...

District 4 RI violates the relative distance goal, when better options are obviously available.

If you send LH and Burnet to Region 4 the LONGEST trips are only around 80-90 miles apart.

The excessive number of teams in a single district and the concentration of powers is just icing on the cake, not considered, but part of a bad plan gone worse if that speculation became a reality.

LH-950, Burnet-924, Fredericksburg-952, Canyon Lake-888, Taylor-974, and or Lampasas-1017 are all very close to the same size and the distances are much better as a whole.

I totally understand your reasoning. I did this basically on my own with some help from others but the DFW area was really just throw names at the wall and see what sticks. I tried to split NW of FW and Dallas to the best of my ability and SW of FW into a group, but some of the teams I thought about sending to the West were closer to the school's in 3 and 4. This is only one option, but I found when compiling districts one group would work but would throw the other nearby districts into a mess.

LHPfactory
12-04-2013, 08:55 PM
I totally understand your reasoning. I did this basically on my own with some help from others but the DFW area was really just throw names at the wall and see what sticks. I tried to split NW of FW and Dallas to the best of my ability and SW of FW into a group, but some of the teams I thought about sending to the West were closer to the school's in 3 and 4. This is only one option, but I found when compiling districts one group would work but would throw the other nearby districts into a mess.

I know, its like a Rubik's Cube, but I believe UIL will try to keep the greater Metro districts closer and do their best with the remote regions, this will make more happy and less unhappy.... All will never be happy.

hollywood
12-04-2013, 10:02 PM
The districts will start out west and work their way east. Pretty simple. Will there be some serious travel distances, yes! Just the nature of the beast. And the beast is not in the east, I don't care what cowboyandchrist says. ;)

db8coach
12-04-2013, 10:51 PM
I understand the distance thing in west Texas: but this set up of large schools/small schools actually hurts the schools that can least afford it...those out in west Texas. Contrary to belief, oil money doesn't flow out of the ground.

db8coach
12-04-2013, 10:53 PM
And...with this set up, do only 2 schools make the playoffs?

SHSBulldog00
12-04-2013, 11:05 PM
And...with this set up, do only 2 schools make the playoffs?

4 teams will continue to make the playoffs.