465-685 4A Division II

[nt7on7]

Division I 686-1059

[Aesculus gilmus]

Gilmer is the largest school in the division. No more Argyle, probably forever. I have mixed emotions. Wanted to even up the series eventually. There are also a lot of other rivalries which are now over.

Gilmer will probably gradually lose enrollment in coming years as our academic facilities deteriorate.

[bansheefan03]

Well gilmer should be win a couple state championship now

[Matthew328]

Well gilmer should be win a couple state championship now

Snyder with some bad luck turning in 687

[Slick50]

Well gilmer should be win a couple state championship now

They will prolly win alot more than a couple.

[SHSBulldog00]

189 schools in 4A

D1 100
D2 89

ASSUMING NO OPT UPS. Is that option still available? Maybe Gilmer will opt up to play Argyle some more.

[WOS87]

There will be a few other good programs in 4A D2 than just Gilmer. (LaMarque, Cuero, Sinton, WOS, Fairfield, Coldspring, Celina, LaGrange, Wimberley, Giddings, among others). Go ahead and predict all the State titles you want lol. You're getting a little ahead of yourselves I think.

[Matthew328]

189 schools in 4A

D1 100
D2 89

ASSUMING NO OPT UPS. Is that option still available? Maybe Gilmer will opt up to play Argyle some more.

To my knowledge a team had to declare if they were going to opt up by 11/6....

[Deuce]

Snyder with some bad luck turning in 687
Graham at 690

[SintonFan_inAustin]

what were the numbers turned in few weeks back?

[WOS87]

D1


Little Cypress-Mauriceville 1043
San Elizario 1035
Houston North Forest 1032
Kilgore 1026
San Antonio Houston 1023
Splendora 1021
Lampasas 1017
Abilene Wylie 1003
Rio Grande City La Grulla 1002
Stephenville 996
Stafford 995
Dallas Carter 994
Kaufman 993
El Campo 990
Andrews 988
Princeton 988
Boerne 986
Athens 985
Brazosport 984
Pleasanton 983
Alvarado 982
Kennedale 978
Mabank 978
La Vernia 975
Taylor 974
Tyler Chapel Hill 972
Bay City 966
Beeville Jones 966
Pampa 961
Cleveland 960
Dallas Pinkston 959
Huffman-Hargrave 954
Fredericksburg 952
Liberty Hill 950
Fort Worth Diamond Hill 947
Kingsville King 946
Big Spring 943
Zapata 930.5
Houston Furr 930
Burkburnett 928
Rockport-Fulton 926
Burnet 924
Hidalgo 921
River Oaks Castleberry 906
Mineral Wells 904
Henderson 896
Brownwood 893
Springtown 889.5
Fischer Canyon Lake 888
Crandall 883
Wilmer-Hutchins 882
Decatur 876
Clint Mountain View 851.5
Houston Wheatley 850
Paris North Lamar 846
West Columbia 845.5
Needville 836
Brownsboro 823
Fort Worth Dunbar 817
Carrollton Ranchview 805
Borger 799
Levelland 793
Sealy 793
Palestine 789
Gatesville 788
Silsbee 781
Sanger 768
Bridge City 759
Navasota 750
Quinlan Ford 747
Waco La Vega 743
Lake Worth 739
Robstown 738
Wills Point 736
Robinson 735
Wichita Falls Hirschi 730
Bandera 728
Lubbock Estacado 727
Carthage 723
Texarkana Liberty-Eylau 721
Pittsburg 719
China Spring 718
Fabens 712
Gainesville 708
Argyle 698
Van 698
Seminole 691
Graham 690
Snyder 687
Jasper 686


D2

Gilmer 685
Wimberley 672
Houston Scarborough 671
Bullard 667
Dallas Roosevelt 663
Center 662
Port Isabel 657
Ferris 653
Sinton 649
La Marque 642
Madisonville 642
Giddings 640
Celina 629
Bridgeport 627
Texarkana Pleasant Grove 623
Perryton 622
Rio Hondo 620
Huntington 617
Waco Connally 615
Ingleside 611
La Grange 611
Anna 609
Bellville 607
Hardin-Jefferson 605
Canton 601
Clint 601
Fort Stockton 600
Cuero 599
Rusk 598
Pecos 597
West Orange-Stark 594
Hondo 589
Liberty 581
Atlanta 580
Mexia 570
Pearsall 568
Sweeny 568
Monahans 560
Krum 550
Hamshire-Fannett 548
Devine 547
Gladewater 545
Cleveland Tarkington 543
Dallas Lincoln 541
Wharton 541
Orange Grove 540
Smithville 540
Aubrey 536
Orangefield 536
Sweetwater 535
Raymondville 534
Iowa Park 527
Lorena 522
Melissa 522
Midland Greenwood 521
Brookshire Royal 520
Tatum 518
Geronimo Navarro 513
Lytle 513
Caldwell 512
Diboll 508
Progreso 508
Shepherd 508
Venus 507
Dalhart 506
Vernon 506
Corpus Christi West Oso 501
Bonham 497
Bushland 497
Llano 497
Crystal City 496
Lamesa 496
Godley 488
Columbus 485
Emory Rains 484
Longview Spring Hill 482
Coldspring 480
Fairfield 480
Jourdanton 480
Nevada Community 480
Salado 478
Poteet 473
Yoakum 469
Groesbeck 468

[SintonFan_inAustin]

D1

Terrell 1078
Greenville 1070
Somerset 1063
Little Cypress-Mauriceville 1043
San Elizario 1035
Houston North Forest 1032
Kilgore 1026
San Antonio Houston 1023
Splendora 1021
Lampasas 1017
Abilene Wylie 1003
Rio Grande City La Grulla 1002
Stephenville 996
Stafford 995
Dallas Carter 994
Kaufman 993
El Campo 990
Andrews 988
Princeton 988
Boerne 986
Athens 985
Brazosport 984
Pleasanton 983
Alvarado 982
Kennedale 978
Mabank 978
La Vernia 975
Taylor 974
Tyler Chapel Hill 972
Bay City 966
Beeville Jones 966
Pampa 961
Cleveland 960
Dallas Pinkston 959
Huffman-Hargrave 954
Fredericksburg 952
Liberty Hill 950
Fort Worth Diamond Hill 947
Kingsville King 946
Big Spring 943
Zapata 930.5
Houston Furr 930
Burkburnett 928
Rockport-Fulton 926
Burnet 924
Hidalgo 921
River Oaks Castleberry 906
Mineral Wells 904
Henderson 896
Brownwood 893
Springtown 889.5
Fischer Canyon Lake 888
Crandall 883
Wilmer-Hutchins 882
Decatur 876
Clint Mountain View 851.5
Houston Wheatley 850
Paris North Lamar 846
West Columbia 845.5
Needville 836
Brownsboro 823
Fort Worth Dunbar 817
Carrollton Ranchview 805
Borger 799
Levelland 793
Sealy 793
Palestine 789
Gatesville 788
Silsbee 781
Sanger 768
Bridge City 759
Navasota 750
Quinlan Ford 747
Waco La Vega 743
Lake Worth 739
Robstown 738
Wills Point 736
Robinson 735
Wichita Falls Hirschi 730
Bandera 728
Lubbock Estacado 727
Carthage 723
Texarkana Liberty-Eylau 721
Pittsburg 719
China Spring 718
Fabens 712
Gainesville 708
Argyle 698
Van 698
Seminole 691
Graham 690
Snyder 687
Jasper 686


D2

Gilmer 685
Wimberley 672
Houston Scarborough 671
Bullard 667
Dallas Roosevelt 663
Center 662
Port Isabel 657
Ferris 653
Sinton 649
La Marque 642
Madisonville 642
Giddings 640
Celina 629
Bridgeport 627
Texarkana Pleasant Grove 623
Perryton 622
Rio Hondo 620
Huntington 617
Waco Connally 615
Ingleside 611
La Grange 611
Anna 609
Bellville 607
Hardin-Jefferson 605
Canton 601
Clint 601
Fort Stockton 600
Cuero 599
Rusk 598
Pecos 597
West Orange-Stark 594
Hondo 589
Liberty 581
Atlanta 580
Mexia 570
Pearsall 568
Sweeny 568
Monahans 560
Krum 550
Hamshire-Fannett 548
Devine 547
Gladewater 545
Cleveland Tarkington 543
Dallas Lincoln 541
Wharton 541
Orange Grove 540
Smithville 540
Aubrey 536
Orangefield 536
Sweetwater 535
Raymondville 534
Iowa Park 527
Lorena 522
Melissa 522
Midland Greenwood 521
Brookshire Royal 520
Tatum 518
Geronimo Navarro 513
Lytle 513
Caldwell 512
Diboll 508
Progreso 508
Shepherd 508
Venus 507
Dalhart 506
Vernon 506
Corpus Christi West Oso 501
Bonham 497
Bushland 497
Llano 497
Crystal City 496
Lamesa 496
Godley 488
Columbus 485
Emory Rains 484
Longview Spring Hill 482
Coldspring 480
Fairfield 480
Jourdanton 480
Nevada Community 480
Salado 478
Poteet 473
Yoakum 469
Groesbeck 468

thanks

[Sweetwater Red]

Snyder with some bad luck turning in 687


This is disappointing for us as well.

[Sweetwater Red]

So I guess Lubbock Cooper has shot straight to 5A division II?

[WOS87]

Poor Jasper at 686. I'm sure WOS will still play them non district though.

[SHSBulldog00]

Terrell 1078
Greenville 1070
Somerset 1063

Will be 5A

[WOS87]

Looks like the luck of Highland Park floating below the cutoff has finally disappeared. They're going 6A with 2106 lol.

[caleb_mccaig]

Good to see Robinson and CS are both Division 1. Would hate to see that rivalry end.

[coach]

I bet Grosebeck is pissed

[SintonFan_inAustin]

La Feria numbers?

[LHPfactory]

And now the speculation on what the districts will look like, Who is gonna take first crack at it....?

[SHSBulldog00]

La Feria numbers?

La Feria 954

[SHSBulldog00]

And now the speculation on what the districts will look like, Who is gonna take first crack at it....?

I am close, but with the bottom moving to 465 I have 3 (4 Team Districts) in Division 2....so I will need a little more time.

[GrTigers6]

I guess Glen Rose will remain 3A

[SHSBulldog00]

I guess Glen Rose will remain 3A

Looks that way

[GrTigers6]

Looks that wayits about time we are in the top half of our division instead of always being in the bottom half.

[caleb_mccaig]

And now the speculation on what the districts will look like, Who is gonna take first crack at it....?

Chances of a Abilene Wylie, S-Ville and Brownwood district?

[cotulla]

remember the list posted above is not an official UIL list.

I thought UIL would be posting the official snapshot numbers today, but i guess not.

Opt ups had to be declared on snap shot day. Only UIL knows who's opting up in each classificiation.

[SHSBulldog00]

Chances of a Abilene Wylie, S-Ville and Brownwood district?

Very Likely IMO

[SintonFan_inAustin]

I am close, but with the bottom moving to 465 I have 3 (4 Team Districts) in Division 2....so I will need a little more time.6 team district for D16 or 8 team district

[GrTigers6]

remember the list posted above is not an official UIL list.

I thought UIL would be posting the official snapshot numbers today, but i guess not.

Opt ups had to be declared on snap shot day. Only UIL knows who's opting up in each classificiation.

Those are the UIL numbers
http://www.uiltexas.org/files/alignments/Conference_Cutoff_Numbers_2014.pdf

[SHSBulldog00]

6 team district for D16 or 8 team district

Still working on that

[FB-fanatic]

I bet Grosebeck is pissed

I was thinking the same thing. They have almost always struggled.


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[Yoe_09]

Those are the UIL numbers
http://www.uiltexas.org/files/alignments/Conference_Cutoff_Numbers_2014.pdf

I was thinking maybe the official enrollment numbers for each school. I guess we will have to wait for that.

[Old Tiger]

Rockdale stays 3a, bunch of 4a sellouts!

[WOS87]

STATEWIDE MAP

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/Texas_zpscf655a5d.jpg

West Texas

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/West_zps57f669b6.jpg

North Texas

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/North_zpsa14ca11e.jpg

[WOS87]

East Texas

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/East_zpsd8fc90cf.jpg

South Texas

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/South_zps31db77b5.jpg

[marler1972]

Do they send Iowa Park and Vernon up with Perryton, Dalhart and bushland?

[ApachePride]

D1


Little Cypress-Mauriceville 1043
San Elizario 1035
Houston North Forest 1032
Kilgore 1026
San Antonio Houston 1023
Splendora 1021
Lampasas 1017
Abilene Wylie 1003
Rio Grande City La Grulla 1002
Stephenville 996
Stafford 995
Dallas Carter 994
Kaufman 993
El Campo 990
Andrews 988
Princeton 988
Boerne 986
Athens 985
Brazosport 984
Pleasanton 983
Alvarado 982
Kennedale 978
Mabank 978
La Vernia 975
Taylor 974
Tyler Chapel Hill 972
Bay City 966
Beeville Jones 966
Pampa 961
Cleveland 960
Dallas Pinkston 959
Huffman-Hargrave 954
Fredericksburg 952
Liberty Hill 950
Fort Worth Diamond Hill 947
Kingsville King 946
Big Spring 943
Zapata 930.5
Houston Furr 930
Burkburnett 928
Rockport-Fulton 926
Burnet 924
Hidalgo 921
River Oaks Castleberry 906
Mineral Wells 904
Henderson 896
Brownwood 893
Springtown 889.5
Fischer Canyon Lake 888
Crandall 883
Wilmer-Hutchins 882
Decatur 876
Clint Mountain View 851.5
Houston Wheatley 850
Paris North Lamar 846
West Columbia 845.5
Needville 836
Brownsboro 823
Fort Worth Dunbar 817
Carrollton Ranchview 805
Borger 799
Levelland 793
Sealy 793
Palestine 789
Gatesville 788
Silsbee 781
Sanger 768
Bridge City 759
Navasota 750
Quinlan Ford 747
Waco La Vega 743
Lake Worth 739
Robstown 738
Wills Point 736
Robinson 735
Wichita Falls Hirschi 730
Bandera 728
Lubbock Estacado 727
Carthage 723
Texarkana Liberty-Eylau 721
Pittsburg 719
China Spring 718
Fabens 712
Gainesville 708
Argyle 698
Van 698
Seminole 691
Graham 690
Snyder 687
Jasper 686


D2

Gilmer 685
Wimberley 672
Houston Scarborough 671
Bullard 667
Dallas Roosevelt 663
Center 662
Port Isabel 657
Ferris 653
Sinton 649
La Marque 642
Madisonville 642
Giddings 640
Celina 629
Bridgeport 627
Texarkana Pleasant Grove 623
Perryton 622
Rio Hondo 620
Huntington 617
Waco Connally 615
Ingleside 611
La Grange 611
Anna 609
Bellville 607
Hardin-Jefferson 605
Canton 601
Clint 601
Fort Stockton 600
Cuero 599
Rusk 598
Pecos 597
West Orange-Stark 594
Hondo 589
Liberty 581
Atlanta 580
Mexia 570
Pearsall 568
Sweeny 568
Monahans 560
Krum 550
Hamshire-Fannett 548
Devine 547
Gladewater 545
Cleveland Tarkington 543
Dallas Lincoln 541
Wharton 541
Orange Grove 540
Smithville 540
Aubrey 536
Orangefield 536
Sweetwater 535
Raymondville 534
Iowa Park 527
Lorena 522
Melissa 522
Midland Greenwood 521
Brookshire Royal 520
Tatum 518
Geronimo Navarro 513
Lytle 513
Caldwell 512
Diboll 508
Progreso 508
Shepherd 508
Venus 507
Dalhart 506
Vernon 506
Corpus Christi West Oso 501
Bonham 497
Bushland 497
Llano 497
Crystal City 496
Lamesa 496
Godley 488
Columbus 485
Emory Rains 484
Longview Spring Hill 482
Coldspring 480
Fairfield 480
Jourdanton 480
Nevada Community 480
Salado 478
Poteet 473
Yoakum 469
Groesbeck 468

Gonzales 700

[Old Tiger]

Will each district feature at least 5 teams?

[WOS87]

Will each district feature at least 5 teams?

There will be a lot of traveling in West and South Texas if that's the case

[Buckeye1980]

I want it to be noted, it was not a Gilmer poster predicting state championships.

There will be a few other good programs in 4A D2 than just Gilmer. (LaMarque, Cuero, Sinton, WOS, Fairfield, Coldspring, Celina, LaGrange, Wimberley, Giddings, among others). Go ahead and predict all the State titles you want lol. You're getting a little ahead of yourselves I think.

[LHPfactory]

There will be a lot of traveling in West and South Texas if that's the case

Hey WOS 87, can you do a map with the 4A-DI Schools?

[Sweetwater Red]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg53/detroit8990/Texas.jpg

Yep, we're screwed lol. Look how far Sweetwater is from anyone in any direction.

[LHPfactory]

I want it to be noted, it was not a Gilmer poster predicting state championships.

I think they were jabbing Gilmer about Argyle.... 4A-DII is loaded, no easy road there.

[Old Tiger]

STATEWIDE MAP

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/Texas_zpscf655a5d.jpg

West Texas

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/West_zps57f669b6.jpg

North Texas

http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o646/Chris_Boehme/North_zpsa14ca11e.jpg

I'd say this


West Texas

1) Clint, Pecos, Monahans, Ft Stockton, Midland Greenwood
2) Sweetwater, Lamesa, Bushland, Dalhart, Perryton
3) Vernon, Iowa Park, Bridgeport, Krum, Aubrey

North Texas

1) Celina, Anna, Bonham, Melissa, Nevada community
2) Lincoln, Roosevelt, Godley, Venus, Ferris
3) Emory Rains, Canton, Bullard, Gladewater, Gilmer
4) Pleasant Grove, Atlanta, Spring Hill, Tatum, Center

East Texas

1) Rusk, Huntington, Diboll, Fairfield, Madisonville
2) Waco Connaly, Lorena, Salado, Llano, Wimberley
3) Caldwell, Giddings, La Grange, Columbus, Bellville
4) Coldspring, Shephard, Tarkington, Liberty, Houston School(can't make out name)
5) Hardin Jefferson, WO-S, Orangfield, Hamshire-Fannett, La Marque
6) Brookshire Royal, Cuero, Sweeny, Wharton, Yoakum


South Texas

1) Something-Navarro?, Lytle, Hondo, Devine
2) Pearsall, the town south of Poteet, Crystal city, Poteet
3) Ingleside, West OSO, Sinton, Orangegrove
4) Raymondville, Rio Hondo, Port Isabel, Progresso

[rb585]

6 team district for D16 or 8 team district

They'll split those Corpus area schools and send 2 to the valley and 2 to the north. No one will be happy.

[WOS87]

They'll split those Corpus area schools and send 2 to the valley and 2 to the north. No one will be happy.

I agree. Either Sweetwater and Lamesa or Iowa Park and Vernon are gonna have to make the long trip up to the Panhandle. That won't be fun either.

[WOS87]

Hey WOS 87, can you do a map with the 4A-DI Schools?

Sure... will try to get it done by this evening. And will make the names more legible.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Wow. Center to Texarkana is a long way. Even Tatum to Texarkana is. Center belongs in the region with Rusk, Diboll, Huntington, etc.

I see a far more geograpically logical district as being Pleasant Grove, Atlanta, Gilmer, Spring Hill and Gladewater.

The district in which you put Gilmer is almost too easy. The Buckeyes need to be in a more competitive district than that or else they won't be ready for the playoffs. This has happened before.

[Old Tiger]

Region I

1) Clint, Pecos, Monahans, Ft Stockton, Midland Greenwood
2) Sweetwater, Lamesa, Bushland, Dalhart, Perryton
3) Vernon, Iowa Park, Bridgeport, Krum, Aubrey
4) Celina, Anna, Bonham, Melissa, Nevada community

Region II

1) Lincoln, Roosevelt, Godley, Venus, Ferris
2) Emory Rains, Canton, Bullard, Gladewater, Gilmer
3) Pleasant Grove, Atlanta, Spring Hill, Tatum, Center
4) Rusk, Huntington, Diboll, Fairfield, Madisonville

Region III

1) Waco Connaly, Lorena, Salado, Llano, Wimberley
2) Caldwell, Giddings, La Grange, Columbus, Bellville
3) Coldspring, Shephard, Tarkington, Liberty, Houston School(can't make out name)
4) Hardin Jefferson, WO-S, Orangfield, Hamshire-Fannett, La Marque

Region IV

6) Brookshire Royal, Cuero, Sweeny, Wharton, Yoakum
1) Something-Navarro?, Lytle, Hondo, Devine
2) Pearsall, the town south of Poteet, Crystal city, Poteet
3) Ingleside, West OSO, Sinton, Orangegrove
4) Raymondville, Rio Hondo, Port Isabel, Progresso


Split region IV up however you want with those team, too confusing now

[cougartino]

5) Hardin Jefferson, WO-S, Orangfield, Hamshire-Fannett, La Marque

I hope not. That's too freakin' far for Coog Nation!

[Old Tiger]

5) Hardin Jefferson, WO-S, Orangfield, Hamshire-Fannett, La Marque

I hope not. That's too freakin' far for Coog Nation!

But you would have a 2 year series with wo-s!

[Deuce]

189 schools in 4A

D1 100
D2 89

ASSUMING NO OPT UPS. Is that option still available? Maybe Gilmer will opt up to play Argyle some more.

Why wouldn't they make the cut off 800 so that there are pretty much the same amount of schools in each division. I guess that's the genius of the UIL for u!

[cougartino]

But you would have a 2 year series with wo-s!

That would be nice if disctrict games could be played at neutral sites.

[WOS87]

I see them putting Liberty in with the other Southeast Texas teams. LaMarque may look close but you have to drive through Houston and down I-10 to get to the Golden Triangle from there. A good 150+ miles.

[Sville]

Glen Rose at 462 will drop to 3A D1 and be a title contender with what they have coming back.

[OL_DAWG]

I'm not from Sweetwater, so I have no dog in this fight, but I Googled Sweetwater to Perryton - 4hrs and 45 min. That's crazy, 5 hour bus ride to a district opponent. Think what Thursday night sub-varsity games will be like - wow.

[OL_DAWG]

Admin, can you sticky these maps like the D1 maps? Thanks

[YTBulldogs]

I see a district consisting, based on above map:

Yoakum
Cuero
Navarro
Smithville
LaGrange

or one consisting of:

Yoakum
Cuero
Sweeny
Columbus
Wharton

[waterboy]

Wow. Center to Texarkana is a long way. Even Tatum to Texarkana is. Center belongs in the region with Rusk, Diboll, Huntington, etc.

I see a far more geograpically logical district as being Pleasant Grove, Atlanta, Gilmer, Spring Hill and Gladewater.

The district in which you put Gilmer is almost too easy. The Buckeyes need to be in a more competitive district than that or else they won't be ready for the playoffs. This has happened before.

I agree. No offense to any of the other teams, but an easy district schedule does us no good when playoff time rolls around. We can only hope we get some schools like Kilgore, Carthage, or Argyle on our schedule so we will know where we stand against the best in the state.

I think Gilmer has proven that it can compete against bigger schools, and would do well in D1 if that was where we ended up. We have been well into the lower half of 3A in numbers since it's existed in its present form. Now we will be the largest in the new 4A-D2. That's a big change for us. There are still a whole bunch of good powerhouse programs in D2, so to say Gilmer will win state championships just because of this change is silly. I'm gonna miss the old District of Doom, and our annual matchups with Argyle in the playoffs. It just ain't gonna be the same. Oh, well, it is what it is...