The new 3a, aka 4a next year numbers

[easttexas3a]

4A, D-I, 695-1039
4A, D-II, 450-694

This is what Mr. Padilla has put out. He is usually very close, and nailed it on last years numbers. how would this change the landscape next year? To me it doesn't change a whole lot, some schools like Gilmer for instance would be of the good fortune of being right at the top of D2.

[HEMOTOXIC]

4A, D-I, 695-1039
4A, D-II, 450-694

This is what Mr. Padilla has put out. He is usually very close, and nailed it on last years numbers. how would this change the landscape next year? To me it doesn't change a whole lot, some schools like Gilmer for instance would be of the good fortune of being right at the top of D2.

Looks like the Rattlers will be one of the smaller Diviision I schools.

[orange machine]

Argyle might be the smallest at 698. Celina will be d2 at 629 like it really matters anymore!

[HEMOTOXIC]

Argyle might be the smallest at 698. Celina will be d2 at 629 like it really matters anymore!

Yeah, I don't think that it matters as much.. I'm very interested in seeing who lands in our new district.

[MustangFootball]

So with the division already decided in each class does this mean that only two teams make the playoffs in each district or are they still taking four teams ?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

So with the division already decided in each class does this mean that only two teams make the playoffs in each district or are they still taking four teams ?4 teams make the playoff in each district.

[cougartino]

Means an increased travel distance for district games. And, (dreading it) we could be grouped with some Houston ISD teams. :vrycnfsd:

[Pudlugger]

4aII D24: Smithville; Giddings; La Grange; Columbus; Caldwell; Bellville

That would be my guess anyway, Pretty much a traditional district for the Leps.

[adoptedbuckeye]

Looks like Tatum will be moving on up to join in the fun.

[speedbump]

4aII D24: Smithville; Giddings; La Grange; Columbus; Caldwell; Bellville

That would be my guess anyway, Pretty much a traditional district for the Leps.

There will only be 16 districts in each division.

[87 TIGER]

Rockdale will drop, ( or stay 3a), pretty sure we turned in 443

[waterboy]

4A, D-I, 695-1039
4A, D-II, 450-694

This is what Mr. Padilla has put out. He is usually very close, and nailed it on last years numbers. how would this change the landscape next year? To me it doesn't change a whole lot, some schools like Gilmer for instance would be of the good fortune of being right at the top of D2.

I can't see the number going that low for D2, unless that's where the split is in the number of schools in the new 4A. Either way, I think Gilmer will go deep every year no matter where the cutoff is. For a team in the lower half in numbers in 3A now, the talent at Gilmer is unbelievable.

[LHPfactory]

If this interval holds true, Marble Falls and Wimberley would be out for LH.

I could see a 4A-DI Hill Country district with:

Lampasas. 1017
Boerne 986
Fredericksburg. 952
Liberty Hill. 950
Burnet 924
Canyon Lake. 888

This would be the best option as travel is concerned.

[Scoop27]

Need to put Sealy in that district with Bellville-Towns are about 15 miles apart-

[SHSBulldog00]

Rockdale will drop, ( or stay 3a), pretty sure we turned in 443

Rockdale turned in 447 Should be in the new 3A D1


If this interval holds true, Marble Falls and Wimberley would be out for LH.

I could see a 4A-DI Hill Country district with:

Lampasas. 1017
Boerne 986
Fredericksburg. 952
Liberty Hill. 950
Burnet 924
Canyon Lake. 888

This would be the best option as travel is concerned.

It looks good, but we know it most likely won't be that simple come February.

[Rabid Cougar]

DI
China Spring
LaVega
Robinson
Gatesville
*
*

* Lampasas
* Alvarado
* Taylor
* Navasota


DII
Connally
Mexia
Fairfield
Groesbeck
Hillsboro
*

* Salado
* Glen Rose.
* Godley

[rb585]

4aII D24: Smithville; Giddings; La Grange; Columbus; Caldwell; Bellville

That would be my guess anyway, Pretty much a traditional district for the Leps.

If this is the full list... http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=984&CID=1567932

I'm thinking your district goes east...


Pull out all of the "valley: schools: Lyford, Progresso, Raymondville, OG, Rio Hondo, PI

So you have APass, Sinton, and Ingleside that are going north. Closest three schools to the north are Cuero, Sweeny, Wharton?

Pull out all of the south-of-SanAntonio schools: Poteet, Jourdantan, Crystal City, Lytle, Pearsall...Devine? That's six.

Go north again and you'd get Hondo, Navarro, Llano, Wimberley...??? Smithville and Giddings seem to make the most sense.

That leaves La Grange, Bellville, Yoakum, Caldwell, Columbus... Brookshire?

[LHPfactory]

Rockdale turned in 447 Should be in the new 3A D1



It looks good, but we know it most likely won't be that simple come February.

Tell UIL they can use the idea for the Hill Country district I came up with for free, I know they are busy and this would mean only 15 more districts left to divide up in 4A-DI.

[rb585]

Noticing that's not the full list... La Feria, Hempstead, etc. aren't on there.

But that's the way the districts will be set -- they'll start with the remote places (Valley, South, West) and try to minimize travel distances, then work their way to the north and east.

[MUSTANG69]

If this is the full list... http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=984&CID=1567932

I'm thinking your district goes east...


Pull out all of the "valley: schools: Lyford, Progresso, Raymondville, OG, Rio Hondo, PI

So you have APass, Sinton, and Ingleside that are going north. Closest three schools to the north are Cuero, Sweeny, Wharton?

Pull out all of the south-of-SanAntonio schools: Poteet, Jourdantan, Crystal City, Lytle, Pearsall...Devine? That's six.

Go north again and you'd get Hondo, Navarro, Llano, Wimberley...??? Smithville and Giddings seem to make the most sense.

That leaves La Grange, Bellville, Yoakum, Caldwell, Columbus... Brookshire?

Orange Grove is not in the valley. It is in the Corpus Christi area. I can see OG, Sinton, Ingleside, Aransas Pass(if they move up) and West Oso together.

[LHPfactory]

DI
China Spring
LaVega
Robinson
Gatesville
*
*

* Lampasas
* Alvarado
* Taylor
* Navasota


DII
Connally
Mexia
Fairfield
Groesbeck
Hillsboro
*

* Salado
* Glen Rose.
* Godley

It would make more sense to put Taylor and Navasota east, Alvarado up with Bwood n Stevenville and put Lampasas with Burnet and LH.

[Rabid Cougar]

It would make more sense to put Taylor and Navasota east, Alvarado up with Bwood n Stevenville and put Lampasas with Burnet and LH.

Totally agree. But that would be too logical. I could also see:

China Spring
Gatesville
Stephenville
Brownwood
Alvarado
*

Or

China Spring
LaVega
Alvarado
Stephenville
Kennedale
Robinson

[SHSBulldog00]

I see Region 4 D2 looking something like this

District 13 - Madisonville, La Grange, Bellville, Caldwell, Columbus

District 14 - Carrizo Springs, Hondo, Pearsall, Devine, Lytle, Crystal City, Jourdanton, Poteet

District 15 - Sinton, Ingleside, Cuero, Orange Grove, Corpus Christi West Oso, Yoakum, Aransas Pass

District 16 - Port Isabel, Rio Hondo, Raymondville, Progreso, Lyford

[YTBulldogs]

"District 15 - Sinton, Ingleside, Cuero, Orange Grove, Corpus Christi West Oso, Yoakum, Aransas Pass"--predicted by SHS

That's a tough district. Would be nice if it comes about.

[SHSBulldog00]

I see Region 4 D1 looking something like this

District 13 - Stafford, El Campo, Brazosport, Bay City, West Columbia, Needville, Sealy

District 14 - Pleasanton, Beeville Jones, Rockport-Fulton, Robstown, Gonzales

District 15 - Boerne, La Vernia, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake, Bandera

District 16 - RGC La Grulla, La Feria, Kingsville King, Zapata, Hidalgo

[Hater]

I see Region 4 D1 looking something like this

District 13 - Stafford, El Campo, Brazosport, Bay City, West Columbia, Needville, Sealy

District 14 - Pleasanton, Beeville Jones, Rockport-Fulton, Robstown, Gonzales

District 15 - Boerne, La Vernia, Fredericksburg, Fischer Canyon Lake, Bandera

District 16 - RGC La Grulla, La Feria, Kingsville King, Zapata, Hidalgo



I agree on district 13, no idea on the others, so I'll take your word for it.

This would mean that only 6 teams would miss the playoffs in region 4....

[Manso/V8]

Need to put Sealy in that district with Bellville-Towns are about 15 miles apart-

Bellville will be D2, Sealy will be D1, same with Needville and El Campo.

[Scoop27]

What district do you predict Wharton to be in?

[Scoop27]

You need to put Brookshire-Royal with Sealy since they are so close

[SHSBulldog00]

I see Wharton in District 12 with La Marque, Sweeny, Kipp Sunnyside and Brookshire Royal for D2

[marler1972]

I agree on district 13, no idea on the others, so I'll take your word for it.

This would mean that only 6 teams would miss the playoffs in region 4....
never mind

[toddg]

Totally agree. But that would be too logical. I could also see:

China Spring
Gatesville
Stephenville
Brownwood
Alvarado
*

Or

China Spring
LaVega
Alvarado
Stephenville
Kennedale
Robinson
i wouldnt have a problem with either of those scenarios!

[gatordaze]

I heard 8 team districts. Celina's would almost have to look like this..

Celina 629
Bridgeport 627
Anna 609
Krum 550
Aubrey 536
Melissa 522
Bonham 497
Nevada 480

[icu812]

Argyle might be the smallest at 698. Celina will be d2 at 629 like it really matters anymore!

Van at 698 will be right there with Argyle as the smallest D1 team. It might not matter as much to teams like Argyle and Gilmer but for 98% of the teams out there it matters. Van just lost to Kilgore, if we were a DII team we would have played Gladewater. It matters. All 5 of Van's pre-district games this year were against teams with larger enrollments including 3 4A's, we went 0-5 . We went 4-1 in district losing only to Athens, a team with a much larger enrollment. Now last year we had a better team and went 9-1 with the same schedule but there is no denying that having a much larger enrollment is an advantage.

[rb585]

Need to put Sealy in that district with Bellville-Towns are about 15 miles apart-


You need to put Brookshire-Royal with Sealy since they are so close

You need to get up to speed on the D1/D2 split.

[YTBulldogs]

You need to get up to speed on the D1/D2 split.

LOL. Scoop hasn't even heard of 3A splitting I bet. He's been covering Danbury for EC paper, and promoting a playoff game for Rice Consol. stadium.

[rb585]

Orange Grove is not in the valley. It is in the Corpus Christi area. I can see OG, Sinton, Ingleside, Aransas Pass(if they move up) and West Oso together.

I know it's not in the valley -- that's why I put "valley" in parenthesis.

AP's enrollment is above Padilla's projected cutoff. It's even above Lyford's. I missed West Oso. I wonder if the UIL would be willing to do 5-team districts? Because that's 5 legit (no parenthesis) valley teams and 5 Corpus area teams. That would be kind of ugly to split off one of the Corpus teams to play in the valley, or split that whole Corpus district in half, sending 3 to the valley and 2 to the north...

[speedbump]

You need to get up to speed on the D1/D2 split.

Funny how he didn't' suggest El Campo and Wharton being in the same district. I guess 13 miles is to far apart. LOL

[rb585]

I heard 8 team districts.

Where are you hearing this from? 8*16 districts = 128 schools. I count 94 on theoldcoach's list between Padilla's cutoffs. I know he's missing some, but he's not missing 30+ schools.

6*16 = 96 schools, so I'd expect some 8's but mostly 6-team districts.

[rb585]

Funny how he didn't' suggest El Campo and Wharton being in the same district. I guess 13 miles is to far apart. LOL

Katy and Brookshire are only 8 miles apart. They should be in the same district!

[hollywood]

I read somewhere that they usually start out west and work their way East. It will all depend on how many schools are out west that will determine where the teams like Brownwood, Stephenville, Mineral Wells, Abilene Wylie go. These are all on that central portion of the Regional map. Will be interesting to say the least.

We all have to be prepared for the curve balls, fast balls, sinkers and sliders the UIL has perfected over the years. ;)

[Scoop27]

There is nothing wrong with The Swamp in Altair-They have a better stadium than Wharton

[Scoop27]

Wharton will play in Division II and El Campo Division I- That's why they won't be placed in the same district

[MUSTANG69]

[QUOTE=SHSBulldog00;1784520]I see Region 4 D2 looking something like this

District 15 - Sinton, Ingleside, Cuero, Orange Grove, Corpus Christi West Oso, Yoakum, Aransas Pass

This would be a tough and very competitive district. There would be some great district games.

[MUSTANG69]

I know it's not in the valley -- that's why I put "valley" in parenthesis.

AP's enrollment is above Padilla's projected cutoff. It's even above Lyford's. I missed West Oso. I wonder if the UIL would be willing to do 5-team districts? Because that's 5 legit (no parenthesis) valley teams and 5 Corpus area teams. That would be kind of ugly to split off one of the Corpus teams to play in the valley, or split that whole Corpus district in half, sending 3 to the valley and 2 to the north...

I agree it would be terrible to split Orange Grove off and make them do all that travelling to the valley. Just doesn't make sense but with the UIL who knows. This has been a very competitive district. Sending part to the south and part to the north would be senseless.

[YTBulldogs]

Wharton will play in Division II and El Campo Division I- That's why they won't be placed in the same district

There, you answered yourself on all those other suggestions for district formations you mentioned too.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Will this also be for baseball? hope that doesn't change.

[SHSBulldog00]

Will this also be for baseball? hope that doesn't change.

I'm not sure.

[ApachePride]

4A, D-I, 695-1039
4A, D-II, 450-694

This is what Mr. Padilla has put out. He is usually very close, and nailed it on last years numbers. how would this change the landscape next year? To me it doesn't change a whole lot, some schools like Gilmer for instance would be of the good fortune of being right at the top of D2.

Gonzales
La Vernia
Pleasanton
Sam Houston
Somerset
Medina Valley

[SHSBulldog00]

Gonzales
La Vernia
Pleasanton
Sam Houston
Somerset
Medina Valley

Sam Houston 1023 is opting up to 5A.

Somerset turned in 1063

Medina Valley turned in 1110

[bobcat1]

Wiley must have turned 1039.:taunt:

[rb585]

Will this also be for baseball? hope that doesn't change.

2A has only done this split for football. For all other sports, they have a 32-district alignment.

[SHSBulldog00]

Wiley must have turned 1039.:taunt:

Wylie 1003

They had a science class go on a field trip to the museum to see the missing link

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[tango]

What did Gonzales turn in? I have seen their numbers reported anywhere.

[SHSBulldog00]

What did Gonzales turn in? I have seen their numbers reported anywhere.

I was told 700

[SHSBulldog00]

Looks like I will have to make some changes in D2 Region 4 and some changes in my Region 3 which I haven't fully released. I hate getting projection changing info right before I release my mock district's.

[iFootball]

"District 15 - Sinton, Ingleside, Cuero, Orange Grove, Corpus Christi West Oso, Yoakum, Aransas Pass"--predicted by SHS

That's a tough district. Would be nice if it comes about.

Wow that would be a heck of a district.

[SHSBulldog00]

Wow that would be a heck of a district.

But I will have to make changes due to new info.