Cowboys @ Saints

[Roughneck93]

Almost game time...

[Bullaholic]

IMO, the game key will be the Cowboys getting pressure on Brees. If Brees has time to setup and analyze coverages, he is one of the deadliest in the NFL.

[GrTigers6]

This is one of those games that could make or break out of 8-8. A win and your on the right track to climb out. A loss and your right back to mediocrity!

[cougartino]

I can't explain it but I gotta a good feeling about the Cowboys.

[Roughneck93]

Wow...

There's our first break.

[Macarthur]

And right on cue, a false start.

[Bullaholic]

Cowboys looking like 31st defense against the pass. Wide open receivers with defenders 3-4 yds off of them at the catch.

[Roughneck93]

Damn...hope Harris is ok.

[cougartino]

No flag for that out of bounds hit on Harris?

[cougartino]

Bounty Gate II

[Roughneck93]

Excellent...:clap:

[Bullaholic]

Cowboys crossing Ryan up with the run. I like it.

[cougartino]

No delay of game. Heck they owed us one!

[Roughneck93]

Lee hurt...:dispntd:

[D'Highlander]

Heath was probably a good college safety but he is not big enough or good enough to tackle anyone up high...


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[cougartino]

Heath ain't work a skid mark in the bottom of the bowl.

[Roughneck93]

Lol, wow!

[Keith7]

Yikes the cowgirls stink. Looks like the Eagles will be tied again for the NFC East lead.

[11TARPON]

What an embarrassment . The defense can't stop anyone.

[bobcat1]

Heath ain't work a skid mark in the bottom of the bowl.

Zactly!

[bobcat1]

What an embarrassment . The defense can't stop anyone.

Maybe the Sisters of the Blind JV.

[bobcat1]

Lee hurt...:dispntd:

Season is over if he is out long

[hookandladder]

What an embarrassment . The defense can't stop anyone.

Yes and Romo is on fire, what he got 18 yards passing. Dallas just sucks overall as a team and the owner is the biggest loser, Brees is the real deal and he is showing Romo how to play in big games.

[D'Highlander]

When was the last time you heard anyone say... The cowboys had a good game plan and executed it well...

Or,

The cowboys went in at half and made some good adjustments...


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[Macarthur]

For everyone clamoring to run the ball, this is what happens when you run the ball with this defense.

[11TARPON]

Those were 2 very expensive pass completions by Romo based on his contract.

[Macarthur]

Yes and Romo is on fire, what he got 18 yards passing. Dallas just sucks overall as a team and the owner is the biggest loser, Brees is the real deal and he is showing Romo how to play in big games.

Lol. Ya, this one is definitely on Romo.

[Old Tiger]

Jerry jones is terrible since salary cap

[D'Highlander]

They throw to receivers 12 yards down the field... We like the 2 yard pass routes...


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[Bullaholic]

Jerry jones is terrible since salary cap

Jerry Jones has put too much money into players and coaches who were great, but are past their prime. Consequently, not many good young players have been grown in the system and mediocrity is eternal.

[Old Tiger]

Jerry Jones has put too much money into players and coaches who were great, but are past their prime. Consequently, not many good young players have been grown in the system and mediocrity is eternal.

which goes back to what I said, he pays players too much like there is no salary cap, he's never adjusted. romo should have never gotten that contract.

[Macarthur]

Once again, Romo's the problem. Wow

[Old Tiger]

Once again, Romo's the problem. Wow

who said romo is the problem? we are discussing jerry since the salary cap era started and how he's never adjusted to how he pays players. Do you think romo deserves that contract that in the long run is going to screw over the cowboys?

[Farmersfan]

Only Dallas throws a 1 yard screen pass to their slowest offensive player on the team.....

[Macarthur]

He would have gotten more as a FA.

[Farmersfan]

Once again, Romo's the problem. Wow


Why would he NOT be the problem? He has done NOTHING tonight

[Macarthur]

Only Dallas throws a 1 yard screen pass to their slowest offensive player on the team.....

Yep. Poor offensive coordination.

[Eagle 1]

.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

wake me when this slaughter is over.

[Macarthur]

Why would he NOT be the problem? He has done NOTHING tonight

Yep. Romo's the problem here.

He or The offense hasn't been good but it's idiotic to make this about Romo.

Seems like the fans that yell about running the ball got their wish. Nevermind that you take the ball out of your best players hands.

[D'Highlander]

Only Dallas throws a 1 yard screen pass to their slowest offensive player on the team.....

Exactly! The guy we used a high draft pick to replace... I don't get it... First to passes of that last drive were caught behind the line of scrimmage...


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[Old Tiger]

Guarantee you Jerry gives DeMarco Murray a contract extension and overpays the crap out of him.

[hookandladder]

Why would he NOT be the problem? He has done NOTHING tonight

He threw for 20 yards in the first half, it's not fault the receivers can't get open like Brees receivers. Romo - Big game player.

[Farmersfan]

I picked up Romo as my one of my fantasy QBs because I thought he would light it up tonight. I started with 115 points before this game and I have an amazing 116 points now. Thanks for the 1 point Romo...........:crying:

[Macarthur]

What exactly is he supposed to do when he has 6pass attempts in a half?

[Bullaholic]

There is no phase of the game in which Dallas has dominance---week after week.

[Old Tiger]

This should be a fun 4th quarter.

[Macarthur]

One of the big things you see in this game is how imaginative and varied Payton's offense is. Dallas is so predictable and bland.

[Farmersfan]

What exactly is he supposed to do when he has 6pass attempts in a half?



How about completing more than 2 of them for starters? And anybody who claims the Cowboys don't have open receivers is an idiot! 3 of the first incompletions for Romo where just bad throws. Romo had a open Dez (finally) running up the seem and overthrew him by 10 yards. The last possession Romo threw to the other team and it should have been intercepted. Yea, let's give this bozo more attempts when he is playing like this....

[Bullaholic]

How about completing more than 2 of them for starters? And anybody who claims the Cowboys don't have open receivers is an idiot! 3 of the first incompletions for Romo where just bad throws. Romo had a open Dez (finally) running up the seem and overthrew him by 10 yards. The last possession Romo threw to the other team and it should have been intercepted. Yea, let's give this bozo more attempts when he is playing like this....

I agree with Mac on this one Farmer---Romo ain't calling the plays.

[Macarthur]

How about completing more than 2 of them for starters? And anybody who claims the Cowboys don't have open receivers is an idiot! 3 of the first incompletions for Romo where just bad throws. Romo had a open Dez (finally) running up the seem and overthrew him by 10 yards. The last possession Romo threw to the other team and it should have been intercepted. Yea, let's give this bozo more attempts when he is playing like this....

He did miss the one to Dez. But you're not right if you think they've got guys running around wide open.

And guess what. Two of the four incompletions were drops. But of course you blame him for those too.

[Old Tiger]

saints have 31 first downs

Cowboys have ran about 30 plays.

[Old Tiger]

I can't wait till after the game Jason garrett spews out the same generic cliches he always does.

[D'Highlander]

We can debate this all night but the point is this is not working and changes need to be made...


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[Roughneck93]

Yay...:rolleyes:

[Macarthur]

We can debate this all night but the point is this is not working and changes need to be made...


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Agree

[Farmersfan]

Well, look who finally woke up! Man, I'm glad the receivers finally started getting open so the perfect Romo could get them the ball.....

[Macarthur]

That was a good series. :(

[D'Highlander]

3rd and 21 and we throw to witten at the original line of scrimmage... Smh


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[D'Highlander]

What happened to rolling romo out of the pocket?


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[Macarthur]

Our offensive coaches are terrible. The design of this offense is just poor.

[Bullaholic]

I don't think I have seen a poorer tackling team than Dallas in a lot of years. They drag people down instead of knocking them down, and miss a lot of tackles with arm tackles.

[Macarthur]

Would be nice to see Romo play for someone that's got some imagination and creativity.

[Old Tiger]

Our offensive coaches are terrible. The design of this offense is just poor.

There is a design aside from romo drawing it in the dirt?

[Old Tiger]

haha, wow

[Roughneck93]

Horrible...

[Macarthur]

There is a design aside from romo drawing it in the dirt?

Sometimes I wonder.

[D'Highlander]

Have to cut Heath... I feel bad for the guy... He is nothing more than a special teams wanna be


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[Macarthur]

Payton is the best play caller in the nfl. Of course we had him on staff. :(

[Roughneck93]

I picked up Romo as my one of my fantasy QBs because I thought he would light it up tonight. I started with 115 points before this game and I have an amazing 116 points now. Thanks for the 1 point Romo...........:crying:


As a consolation, Drew has given me 52 points tonight...:D

[D'Highlander]

If we were the saints we would be doing nothing but running the ball this half


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[bobcat1]

Our offensive coaches are terrible. The design of this offense is just poor.

Did you really think Bill "I'm a failure" Callahan was the answer?

[Old Tiger]

Did you really think Bill "I'm a failure" Callahan was the answer?

Or Monte Kiffen whose defense has been figured out and worthless against modern defenses. Hell he got fired at from USC by his own son.

[bobcat1]

Or Monte Kiffen whose defense has been figured out and worthless against modern defenses. Hell he got fired at from USC by his own son.

I agree..... now. I do like The D-Line coach Marinelli. He has done a hell of a job. With Lee out wonder what Erlacher is doing right now? We sure could use him right now.

[Roughneck93]

Saints might put up 50...

[Roughneck93]

39 first downs...

[D'Highlander]

Record setting d...


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[Bullaholic]

"We'll use the bye week to heal up and use this game to learn from our mistakes. We're still tied for first in our division and we have a lot of games to play yet."

[D'Highlander]

"We'll use the bye week to heal up and use this game to learn from our mistakes. We're still tied for first in our division and we have a lot of games to play yet."

Gag


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[D'Highlander]

Why do we have demarco in???


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[Eagle 1]

Would be nice to see Romo play for someone that's got some imagination and creativity.


Totally agree.

Welcome to the darkside....


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[Txbroadcaster]

"We'll use the bye week to heal up and use this game to learn from our mistakes. We're still tied for first in our division and we have a lot of games to play yet."


Spot on what will be said LOL

[Bullaholic]

Woohoo! The Cowboys are in the NFL record books---only team ever to give up 40 firstdowns in a game.

[Old Tiger]

Woohoo! The Cowboys are in the NFL record books---only team ever to give up 40 firstdowns in a game.
Saints 40 first downs

Cowboys 43 offense plays?

[Macarthur]

Spot on what will be said LOL

My fear is that they win the division and get in and JJ uses that as justification to bring the band back.

[Old Tiger]

My fear is that they win the division and get in and JJ uses that as justification to bring the band back.

It doesn't matter who JJ has at HC, as long as there isn't a GM to manage football operations aside from jerry they won't ever be back.

[Txbroadcaster]

My fear is that they win the division and get in and JJ uses that as justification to bring the band back.


yep the FF 8-8 theory

[Eagle 1]

Woohoo! The Cowboys are in the NFL record books---only team ever to give up 40 firstdowns in a game.

Add 0/9 on 3rd down conversions. Pitiful don't even begin to describe this team.

[Eagle 1]

It doesn't matter who JJ has at HC, as long as there isn't a GM to manage football operations aside from jerry they won't ever be back.

Bingo. Until the old fart kicks the bucket, I'm afraid were stuck.

[cougartino]

Cowboys charter just landed in Dallas but Kiffin is still in the booth calling defensive sets.

[Tejastrue]

Anybody missing Ryan? lol

[cougartino]

Vegas has BYE favored by 10 over the Cowboys next week.

[Spursfan]

FIRE MONTY KIPPIN. Absolute disgrace! !

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[Spursfan]

Not with Monty Kippen! Absolutely ridiculous! !

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[D'Highlander]

Since Garret took over... Anyone care to guess at the Cowboys record against winning teams?

If you guessed 4-20 you would be right... :confused:

[Deuce]

It doesn't matter who JJ has at HC, as long as there isn't a GM to manage football operations aside from jerry they won't ever be back.

I have been saying this for 5 years now. Cowboys problems start at the top.

[Bullaholic]

Most of you know I am a old-school, old guy, and since-the-beginning Cowboy fan. I am convinced that the only way the Cowboys are going to right the ship is to get rid of veterans who are taking up space and mostly collecting paychecks from injury to injury. Go with the youth movement via the draft---now---and get them a young, innovative, aggressive , motivating and hungry coaching staff. It may take a few years, but it is going to be the only sure way back to have a chance of even sniffing a SB. Ask the Patriots if this approach works.

[D'Highlander]

Most of you know I am a old-school, old guy, and since-the-beginning Cowboy fan. I am convinced that the only way the Cowboys are going to right the ship is to get rid of veterans who are taking up space and mostly collecting paychecks from injury to injury. Go with the youth movement via the draft---now---and get them a young, innovative, aggressive , motivating and hungry coaching staff. It may take a few years, but it is going to be the only sure way back to have a chance of even sniffing a SB. Ask the Patriots if this approach works.

:iagree: They need a motivator as a coach...

[Deuce]

Most of you know I am a old-school, old guy, and since-the-beginning Cowboy fan. I am convinced that the only way the Cowboys are going to right the ship is to get rid of veterans who are taking up space and mostly collecting paychecks from injury to injury. Go with the youth movement via the draft---now---and get them a young, innovative, aggressive , motivating and hungry coaching staff. It may take a few years, but it is going to be the only sure way back to have a chance of even sniffing a SB. Ask the Patriots if this approach works.

I agree but it won't matter as long as Jerry is making the picks.

[Farmersfan]

Since Garret took over... Anyone care to guess at the Cowboys record against winning teams?

If you guessed 4-20 you would be right... :confused:


I'm pretty sure the loss last night puts them exactly at .500 vs ALL TEAMS since 2000.

Anybody want to continue the discussion from 3 weeks ago when I told you what those bumbling, stumbling horrible wins against Philly and Washington actually meant about this team? The Saints have a bad game last week and come out and drill anybody who was unlucky enough to play them last night. The Cowboys on the other hand follow up a bumbling win against Washington with a bumbling win against Philly and then a bumbling performance and loss against Detroit and that CRAP last night. This is a horrible team lead by a horrible coach and managed by a horrible GM. Throw in the Tony Romo factor and this team had NO CHANCE last night. The bright spots on this team will soon become disheartened and simply fade into the fabric that is Dallas Cowboys. I'm thinking this team ruins more NFL careers than any franchise in sports...

[D'Highlander]

@espn_macmahon - Saints set NFL record for yards allowed last season (440.1 per game). Cowboys are threatening it (439.8).

[Farmersfan]

@espn_macmahon - Saints set NFL record for yards allowed last season (440.1 per game). Cowboys are threatening it (439.8).



Yea, the combination of the poor defense with a ton of injuries and a very inept offense against good defenses is probably going to break some records................

[EagleEye]

I am just shocked. I thought Jerry told Jimmy that with the talent Jerry has any coach could win the Super Bowl and that he would prove it. When is that gonna start I wonder?

[Bullaholic]

I am just shocked. I thought Jerry told Jimmy that with the talent Jerry has any coach could win the Super Bowl and that he would prove it. When is that gonna start I wonder?

They ran out of "secret sauce"....:D

[D'Highlander]

They ran out of "secret sauce"....:D

need more visits to the "glory hole"

[coach]

I'm pretty sure the loss last night puts them exactly at .500 vs ALL TEAMS since 2000.

Anybody want to continue the discussion from 3 weeks ago when I told you what those bumbling, stumbling horrible wins against Philly and Washington actually meant about this team? The Saints have a bad game last week and come out and drill anybody who was unlucky enough to play them last night. The Cowboys on the other hand follow up a bumbling win against Washington with a bumbling win against Philly and then a bumbling performance and loss against Detroit and that CRAP last night. This is a horrible team lead by a horrible coach and managed by a horrible GM. Throw in the Tony Romo factor and this team had NO CHANCE last night. The bright spots on this team will soon become disheartened and simply fade into the fabric that is Dallas Cowboys. I'm thinking this team ruins more NFL careers than any franchise in sports...

So we would've had a chance with Kyle Orton at the helm?

[cougartino]

Saints didn't buy dinner, walk us downstairs, give us a kiss, or say good night.

[D'Highlander]

Saints didn't buy dinner, walk us downstairs, give us a kiss, or say good night.

its cause we are easy...

[Farmersfan]

So we would've had a chance with Kyle Orton at the helm?


Yea coach, That's exactly what I said!! :doh::vrycnfsd:

[Farmersfan]

In a round about way I think this team is exactly like Jerry Jone's personality. He is a wildcatter who made his money speculating in the oilfield and taking big risks for big rewards. (or big disappointments). Hasn't Jerry shown a propensity of reaching on draft picks or going for the "Deal"? Look at the players on this roster. Miles Austin, D. Murray, Sean Lee, Carter, Clairborn, Dez Bryant and the list goes on of players who dropped in the draft due to a history of problems or injuries. I heard some guys talking about this on the radio this morning and I agree 100%. Jerry tries way too hard to find the diamond in the rough that he can polish and make shine. Unfortunately when he drafts a bunch of people who dropped because of injuries he gets a team full of people who are always injured.................

[GrTigers6]

I just heard something on the fan a little while ago that if you look at the projected defense of this team when camp began. There are only 4 starters left that are playing. All the rest are injured or gone

[cougartino]

In a round about way I think this team is exactly like Jerry Jone's personality. He is a wildcatter who made his money speculating in the oilfield and taking big risks for big rewards. (or big disappointments). Hasn't Jerry shown a propensity of reaching on draft picks or going for the "Deal"? Look at the players on this roster. Miles Austin, D. Murray, Sean Lee, Carter, Clairborn, Dez Bryant and the list goes on of players who dropped in the draft due to a history of problems or injuries. I heard some guys talking about this on the radio this morning and I agree 100%. Jerry tries way too hard to find the diamond in the rough that he can polish and make shine. Unfortunately when he drafts a bunch of people who dropped because of injuries he gets a team full of people who are always injured.................

Sounds like Emmett Smith and his diamonds covered in poo-poo anagolgy.

[Emerson1]

I just heard something on the fan a little while ago that if you look at the projected defense of this team when camp began. There are only 4 starters left that are playing. All the rest are injured or gone

Most people can't name a player who isn't one of the "stars" so they don't realize that an undrafted rookie is now the starting safety. An undrafted rookie who took the spot of a 3rd round rookie...

[D'Highlander]

Most people can't name a player who isn't one of the "stars" so they don't realize that an undrafted rookie is now the starting safety. An undrafted rookie who took the spot of a 3rd round rookie...

at one point last night there were 3 rookies in the secondary...

[caleb_mccaig]

I just heard something on the fan a little while ago that if you look at the projected defense of this team when camp began. There are only 4 starters left that are playing. All the rest are injured or gone

Sounds about right. Last night the only starters who were projected starters at the beginning of the year were Barry Church, Sean Lee, Bruce Carter and Brandon Carr. I'm not sure who was penciled in as the other linebacker at the beginning of the year, maybe Justin Durant, or if that includes Orlando Scandrick.

I feel bad for Kiffin and Rob Ryan who have gotten completely unlucky by the amount of injuries the defense has suffered. However, you can also blame management for not drafting depth. It doesn't even look like we're going to win the division which is the worst it's been in years. Also, we're getting extremely unlucky getting to face the Bears with Cutler and the Packers with Rodgers it seems.

[caleb_mccaig]

at one point last night there were 3 undrafted rookies in the secondary...

Jeff Heath before the season began was in talks to start regardless over J.J. Wilcox. I know he was undrafted but apparently Kiffin liked him enough in the pre-season to consider him. I really wish Matt Johnson wouldn't have gone down again so we could've seen what he could do as he was also highly thought of before the year.

[bobcat1]

Most of you know I am a old-school, old guy, and since-the-beginning Cowboy fan. I am convinced that the only way the Cowboys are going to right the ship is to get rid of veterans who are taking up space and mostly collecting paychecks from injury to injury. Go with the youth movement via the draft---now---and get them a young, innovative, aggressive , motivating and hungry coaching staff. It may take a few years, but it is going to be the only sure way back to have a chance of even sniffing a SB. Ask the Patriots if this approach works.

Bull you are right! Get rid of the light bulb fragile millionaires and get some young hungry healthy athletes. If they can't stay healthy get them the heck out of here.

[Roughneck93]

Sean Lee likely to be out 3-4 weeks.

His backup Justin Durant will miss the same amount of time.

:ack!:

[Old Tiger]

Sean Lee likely to be out 3-4 weeks.

His backup Justin Durant will miss the same amount of time.

:ack!:I'd be willing to bet it is longer, those hamstring injuries always take a little longer than the recommended length.

[Roughneck93]

I'd be willing to bet it is longer, those hamstring injuries always take a little longer than the recommended length.

Agreed.

[bobcat1]

Have any of you ever seen a team with so many hamstring injuries? Good gosh!

[Eagle 1]

I am just shocked. I thought Jerry told Jimmy that with the talent Jerry has any coach could win the Super Bowl and that he would prove it. When is that gonna start I wonder?

Funny you mention that. A buddy of mine who is a SF 49er fan said basically the same thing. JJ is the demise of this team. Bottom line.

[cougartino]

At what point does Bozo the Joneses wake up and realize this almost 2 decade program isn't working?

[Deuce]

At what point does Bozo the Joneses wake up and realize this almost 2 decade program isn't working?

When people wake up and quit paying to go watch this mess. Until that happens, I really don't think JJ cares. He's still lining his pockets every weekend because people are dumb enough to pay to see mediocre football.

[D'Highlander]

At what point does Bozo the Joneses wake up and realize this almost 2 decade program isn't working?

As an Owner its working... he has the most valued franchise
As a GM... its not working because the team sux...

The problem is the owner is the GM... Guys... we are stuck with this. :doh:

[Farmersfan]

I am just shocked. I thought Jerry told Jimmy that with the talent Jerry has any coach could win the Super Bowl and that he would prove it. When is that gonna start I wonder?


I think this was true in the beginning. The talent that was on THAT team could have been coached to a Superbowl by just about anybody. In fact, they did win another Superbowl after Jimmy left and should have won 4 in a row. The problems with this team started after that. But let's not pretend that early 90's team wasn't on the verse of an implosion. I'm convinced that is a big reason Jimmy left. He knew his time had run it's course. There is a big difference in running a discipline clinic with young hungry players and trying to do so with successful veterans. Jimmy left at the right time but unfortunately he took all the "GOOD THINGS" with him right along with all of his bad attributes. Jimmy was just as egotistical and self centered as Jerry is. Mark Ribowsky wrote in his book The Last Cowboy that he believes it would be harder on Jerry Jone's ego for him to give up control and win a Superbowl than it would be for this team to be a .500 team for his entire ownership. I don't disagree with this. I think this is why Jerry holds on to washed up players too long. He can't admit to being wrong on his decisions......

[bobcat1]

As an Owner its working... he has the most valued franchise
As a GM... its not working because the team sux...

The problem is the owner is the GM... Guys... we are stuck with this. :doh:I'm not. I turned them off at halftime this last game. I won't miss anything else like a good days fishing to watch the Cowboys this year.

[Farmersfan]

I'm not. I turned them off at halftime this last game. I won't miss anything else like a good days fishing to watch the Cowboys this year.


I'm at that point now. This past weekend was the worse sports weekend for me in quite some time. I switched Cam Newton for Tony Romo on my fantasy team and Romo earned me 9 points! I picked the Titans over the Jags in my elimination game and was one of the 490 people eliminated. My Farmers got up on Van Alstyne 24-7 in the 3rd quarter to just fall asleep and lose the game 35-24! I fished Lake Fork on Saturday (during the Bass Cat tourney) and did manage to catch 10 fish that probably would have earned me money if I had been in the tourney but then my tilt/trim motor went completely out and will cost me 500.00 to replace! I should have just slept all weekend and started over on Monday! :sleeping:

[bobcat1]

I'm at that point now. This past weekend was the worse sports weekend for me in quite some time. I switched Cam Newton for Tony Romo on my fantasy team and Romo earned me 9 points! I picked the Titans over the Jags in my elimination game and was one of the 490 people eliminated. My Farmers got up on Van Alstyne 24-7 in the 3rd quarter to just fall asleep and lose the game 35-24! I fished Lake Fork on Saturday (during the Bass Cat tourney) and did manage to catch 10 fish that probably would have earned me money if I had been in the tourney but then my tilt/trim motor went completely out and will cost me 500.00 to replace! I should have just slept all weekend and started over on Monday! :sleeping:
Yes you should have just slept in. Too funny. I thought I was the only one that had those days.

[Old Tiger]

Long story short....I blame farmersfan

[Farmersfan]

Long story short....I blame farmersfan



Dude!!!! If they would just listen to me I would solve all of their problems. #1. Hire a great coach! #2. Only sign great players! #3. Win a Superbowl every season! BOOM!!!! There it is................

[Farmersfan]

Yes you should have just slept in. Too funny. I thought I was the only one that had those days.


Well there is a silver lining! I didn't fall off the front of my boat and nearly drown like last winter........ So that's something to hang my hat on! :clap:

[cougartino]

When people wake up and quit paying to go watch this mess. Until that happens, I really don't think JJ cares. He's still lining his pockets every weekend because people are dumb enough to pay to see mediocre football.

:iagree:

[Txbroadcaster]

Look JJ makes some very strange decisions at GM but he wants to win..problem is his ego has it where he wants to win with HIM as the builder..but he does not do it just for money

[Bullaholic]

Look JJ makes some very strange decisions at GM but he wants to win..problem is his ego has it where he wants to win with HIM as the builder..but he does not do it just for money

Somebody pointed this out earlier, and I agree---as long as Jerry has the No. 1 sports venue, the no. 1 sports logo, and the no. 1 or 2 sports franchise net worth in the world---superbowls are just icing on the cake, and as you said TXB,--only attractive to him if he gets credit for the success at the GM and/or coaching levels.

[cougartino]

Somebody pointed this out earlier, and I agree---as long as Jerry has the No. 1 sports venue, the no. 1 sports logo, and the no. 1 or 2 sports franchise net worth in the world---superbowls are just icing on the cake, and as you said TXB,--only attractive to him if he gets credit for the success.

But when do the fans say we've had enough? The standard for the Cowboys used to be Super Bowls. Now the standard is 1 game above .500. And what really bothers me is, many fans are okay with that and will support Jerry to the nth degree no matter what. smh

[GrTigers6]

But when do the fans say we've had enough? The standard for the Cowboys used to be Super Bowls. Now the standard is 1 game above .500. And what really bothers me is, many fans are okay with that and will support Jerry to the nth degree no matter what. smh

About 10 years ago but Jerry wont listen, He says he is all about winning but that's a lie. He is about money and until that money drops he will continue his mascarade

[Bullaholic]

But when do the fans say we've had enough? The standard for the Cowboys used to be Super Bowls. Now the standard is 1 game above .500. And what really bothers me is, many fans are okay with that and will support Jerry to the nth degree no matter what. smh

Many have, but IMO, most modern Cowboy fans are upper middle class ticket holders and above, or recipients of corporate tickets, and are just happy to be "seen" at the modern sports wonder AT&T stadium looking good, much less being heard. They have been anesthetized by 17 seasons of mediocrity and exhibit that condition with their behavior. Todays Cowboys fans just ain't Saints, Seahawks, or Steeler fans.

[Txbroadcaster]

Many have, but IMO, most modern Cowboy fans are upper middle class ticket holders and above, or recipients of corporate tickets, and are just happy to be "seen" at the modern sports wonder AT&T stadium looking good, much less being heard. They have been anesthetized by 17 seasons of mediocrity and exhibit that condition with their behavior. Todays Cowboys fans just ain't Saints, Seahawks, or Steeler fans.

It is not just Modern fans...Once Dallas oved to Texas Stadium it became a different culture that went

[Farmersfan]

The Sunday night game had a huge market share nationwide. The Cowboys have a draw all over the world. I can't imagine enough fans will ever stop supporting the Cowboys enough to create a dire need for changes in JJ's mind. And we see a sampling of the support without cause syndrome from some of the people right here on this forum as well as on most local media when it concerns Tony Romo. Jerry Jone's success at GM for this team is mirrored by Tony Romo's lack of success at QB yet so many don't have a problem claling out Jerry but still make excuses for Romo... A complete and utter lack of success is dismissed by blaming whatever cause happens to be the cause of the day. If it isn't O-line, it's defense! If it isn't defense, it'll be the receivers! If it isn't the receivers, it will be the RBs, coaches, fans, GM and any number of other things. Yet all the while these other things have been changed but the results don't change. Jerry Jones gets good talent on this team. But somewhere in the culture that is the Dallas Cowboys that talent does not translate into wins on the field. Could it be the culture of excuse making? Again, nothing in the wide world of sports is subjected to as much "Excuse making" as the QB position for the Dallas Cowboys. Why wouldn't that also apply to everything Cowboy? Why would anyone think a lack of expectation for their franchise QB wouldn't translate into a lack of expectation for the team overall? It's a symptom of the overall condition.

[Txbroadcaster]

The Sunday night game had a huge market share nationwide. The Cowboys have a draw all over the world. I can't imagine enough fans will ever stop supporting the Cowboys enough to create a dire need for changes in JJ's mind. And we see a sampling of the support without cause syndrome from some of the people right here on this forum as well as on most local media when it concerns Tony Romo. Jerry Jone's success at GM for this team is mirrored by Tony Romo's lack of success at QB yet so many don't have a problem claling out Jerry but still make excuses for Romo... A complete and utter lack of success is dismissed by blaming whatever cause happens to be the cause of the day. If it isn't O-line, it's defense! If it isn't defense, it'll be the receivers! If it isn't the receivers, it will be the RBs, coaches, fans, GM and any number of other things. Yet all the while these other things have been changed but the results don't change. Jerry Jones gets good talent on this team. But somewhere in the culture that is the Dallas Cowboys that talent does not translate into wins on the field. Could it be the culture of excuse making? Again, nothing in the wide world of sports is subjected to as much "Excuse making" as the QB position for the Dallas Cowboys. Why wouldn't that also apply to everything Cowboy? Why would anyone think a lack of expectation for their franchise QB wouldn't translate into a lack of expectation for the team overall? It's a symptom of the overall condition.

and once again he makes it about Romo when no one was saying anything about him

[GrTigers6]

The Sunday night game had a huge market share nationwide. The Cowboys have a draw all over the world. I can't imagine enough fans will ever stop supporting the Cowboys enough to create a dire need for changes in JJ's mind. And we see a sampling of the support without cause syndrome from some of the people right here on this forum as well as on most local media when it concerns Tony Romo. Jerry Jone's success at GM for this team is mirrored by Tony Romo's lack of success at QB yet so many don't have a problem claling out Jerry but still make excuses for Romo... A complete and utter lack of success is dismissed by blaming whatever cause happens to be the cause of the day. If it isn't O-line, it's defense! If it isn't defense, it'll be the receivers! If it isn't the receivers, it will be the RBs, coaches, fans, GM and any number of other things. Yet all the while these other things have been changed but the results don't change. Jerry Jones gets good talent on this team. But somewhere in the culture that is the Dallas Cowboys that talent does not translate into wins on the field. Could it be the culture of excuse making? Again, nothing in the wide world of sports is subjected to as much "Excuse making" as the QB position for the Dallas Cowboys. Why wouldn't that also apply to everything Cowboy? Why would anyone think a lack of expectation for their franchise QB wouldn't translate into a lack of expectation for the team overall? It's a symptom of the overall condition.This team was bad and made excuses long before Romo came along
Romo is the only thing that has made them somewhat tolerable to watch every week. At least he gives them a chance

[Farmersfan]

This team was bad and made excuses long before Romo came along
Romo is the only thing that has made them somewhat tolerable to watch every week. At least he gives them a chance


Thanks for making my point!

[bobcat1]

Well there is a silver lining! I didn't fall off the front of my boat and nearly drown like last winter........ So that's something to hang my hat on! :clap:
Yep that cold water is a great teacher. LOL

[bobcat1]

It is not just Modern fans...Once Dallas oved to Texas Stadium it became a different culture that went
Yep the common Joe that is a rabid fan can't swing for the tickets. The folks that go nowadays act like they are at the friggin Opera or Ballet.

[Farmersfan]

and once again he makes it about Romo when no one was saying anything about him


The discussion was about what was wrong with this franchise. In my opinion the BIGGEST problem with this franchise is the mindset that has people constantly making excuses for the lack of productivity from the Franchise QB. I don't care who it is playing that position they have to have better productivity from that position than Romo has given them much of the time. End of story. Anything else is excuse making................... The Defense is terrible! The O-line is terrible! The RBs are terrible! The receivers are terrible! The coaches are terrible! The owner is terrible! The Fans are terrible! The guy making the Fajitas at the stadium is terrible! The only person who is excused day in and day out on this team is.......... TONY ROMO! "ding, ding, ding! Tell him what he's won Monty"

[Farmersfan]

Yep that cold water is a great teacher. LOL


It was about 35 degrees out and i was pretty much alone on the lake when I stepped wrong and SPLASH!!!! Cell phone, head phones, best fishing rod/reel all went for a swim. I got back into the boat and the 5 mile drive back to the boat ramp was the most miserable in my life. Going fast made it way too cold and going slow made it way too long of a drive. I beached the boat at the ramp and spent 45 mintues in my truck just getting warm enough to load the boat and head home.... Never again!