whats your ideas on possible districts?

[toddg]

4A(old 3A)
based on Padillas predicted cutoffs
D1-695-1039
D2-450-694

we already know most snapshot #s

[refereedoc]

Stephenville, brownwood, Alvarado, Mineral Wells, Springtown, kennedale

[Trashman]

I think BWD goes west this time. :wave:

[toddg]

I think BWD goes west this time. :wave: i dont know...AW and BS will go north is my guess..BrnWood could go any direction

[toddg]

Stephenville, brownwood, Alvarado, Mineral Wells, Springtown, kennedale that would make sense...would be a very good district

[HEMOTOXIC]

As I've stated before, Navasota seems to be in no man's land when it comes to 4A DIV 1.

I could see:

Navasota
Cleveland (shared a district back in the early 90s)
Splendora (shared a distirct back in the early 90s)
Huffman Hargrave
Sealy (Distance may be a factor to and from Sealy for the other schools. Then again, that will probably be the norm for this new setup)


OR

Navasota
China Spring
La Vega
Robinson
Taylor


:vrycnfsd:

[refereedoc]

that would make sense...would be a very good district

Well you just put a hex on that district when you mentioned it made sense. :vrycnfsd:

[toddg]

As I've stated before, Navasota seems to be in no man's land when it comes to 4A DIV 1.

I could see:

Navasota
Cleveland (shared a district back in the early 90s)
Splendora (shared a distirct back in the early 90s)
Huffman Hargrave
Sealy (Distance may be a factor to and from Sealy for the other schools. Then again, that will probably be the norm for this new setup)


OR

Navasota
China Spring
La Vega
Robinson
Taylor


:vrycnfsd:that one looks pretty good..
i agree travel will be more spread out..especially in D1

[toddg]

Well you just put a hex on that district when you mentioned it made sense. :vrycnfsd:

i dont make much sense..so im right there with the UIL!! LOL

[rancher]

Sealy
El Campo
Needville
W. Columbia
Bay City
Stafford
Brazosport

[bd62]

Cuero
Yoakum
Lagrange
Columbus
Smithville
Giddings
Royal
With only 4 dist in each region more teams and more
travel in each dist.

[tex_male]

Not by order of what I think the set up will be.

Region 1 teams that will be 4A DIV I

Their current Districts as of now.
1) Borger, Pampa
2) Andrews, Cooper, Estacado, Levelland
3) Fabens, Mountain View
4) Big Spring, Wylie
5) Burkburnett, Hirschi
6) River Oaks Castleberry, FW Diamond Hill-Jarvis, Kennedale, Lake Worth, Mineral Wells, Springtown
7) Alvarado, Stephenville
8) Brownwood, Burnet, Gatesville, Lampass, Liberty Hill


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[Smitty]

Looks lots of travel for a team or two.

[tex_male]

Not in any order

Region 1 teams that will be 4A DIV II

In their current District
1)Dalhart, Perryton, Amarillo River Road
2)Seminole, Shallowater
3)Clint, Fort Stockton, Pecos, Anthony?
4)Greenwood, Monahans, Snyder, Sweetwater
5)Graham, Iowa Park, Vernon
6)None
7)Glen Rose, Hillsboro, Venus
8)Llano


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[ccmom]

i dont know...AW and BS will go north is my guess..BrnWood could go any direction

North as in with who? I'm directionally challenged. The only places north of here I know of are Hawley, Anson and Stamford. ;)

[tex_male]

North Panhandle has a 5-6 teams... It looks like the two school near El Paso that needs to be matched up.


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[tex_male]

Borger, Pampa, Cooper, Estacado, Levelland

Fabens, Mountain View, Big Spring, Wylie, Andrews

?????


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[Tiganut]

I think you start from far West Texas and work your way East. Doing so the following teams should be DIV 1:
Clint Mountain View 851.5
San Elizario 1035
Fabens 712
Andrews 988
Big Spring
Levelland 793
Estacado 711
Abilene Wylie 1003
Pampa
Borger 799
DIV 2
Clint 601
Pecos 597
Monahans 560
Ft Stockton 600
Seminole
Lamesa 496
Brownfield 452.5
Shallowater 437
Dalhart
Perryton 622
Snyder 687
Sweetwater 535

Lubbock Cooper will be 5a with 1144. Anthony 201 will not opt up per Matt Stepp.
Teams possibly in play but will probably stay in 3a Tornillo 411 and Denver City 430.
No idea on districts still working on it.

[tex_male]

Would be nice if the two El Paso area teams to reduce travel and since there are fewer teams in DIV II Region 1 is for them two to opt down!?!?!?

Plus be nice to keep Monahans out of that District! LOL


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[Tiganut]

In DIV 2 I left off Bushland 497. Could possibly drop Shallowater to 3a and add Bushlqnd to 4a DIV 2.

[Tiganut]

I agree. That area is tough to deal with. They have to go somewhere. Imagine an Andrews to San Elizario road trip!! Wow 287 miles.

[Tiganut]

CCmom just imagine an Abilene Wylie to Borger trip???

[ccmom]

CCmom just imagine an Abilene Wylie to Borger trip???

Imagine the cost of the jet fuel!! ;)

[Tiganut]

Oh yea I forgot y'all are the jet set in Wylie. The poor ones could have their drivers drive them!!! Lol

[Papá Oso]

La Vernia
Pleasanton
Navarro
Gonzales
Cuero
Yoakum


PO

[SintonFan_inAustin]

La Vernia
Pleasanton
Navarro
Gonzales
Cuero
Yoakum


POif the cutoff is 694 for D2, Pleasanton will go to a D1 district. La Vernia most likely going with SA area teams district.

[LHPfactory]

4A(old 3A)
based on Padillas predicted cutoffs
D1-695-1039
D2-450-694

we already know most snapshot #s

I thought the cut offs for 4A-DI was 799-1179?

[Matthew328]

I thought the cut offs for 4A-DI was 799-1179?

No one knows the cutoffs...they are just estimates given based on what's been turned in...its fluid....2 or 3 schools turn in an unexpected number and it's got a trickle down effect...

[Matthew328]

Someone is gonna have to go to El Paso...Mountain View and San Elizario look to be Division I.....Clint will be Division II and Fabens is borderline....

in Division I I would almost guarantee Big Spring and Andrews move west but who will the other 2 lucky teams be?

in Division II you'll probably see Pecos, Monahans, Ft Stockton and maybe Greenwood?

Long road trips but football wise its just once in two years...won't have to do it for hoops probably

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

If I knew what numbers were turned in for teams from current districts 30, 31, and 32 I'd be able to fill out probable 16-4A Div. 1 and 16-4A Div. 2 districts.

I already have a general idea of what might happen, but some of the teams are borderline D1/D2 so I don't want to make any predictions until I see what numbers were turned in.

[greendawg84]

Bwoood
Fred
Burnet
The Hill
Lampasas
Gatesville

[Papá Oso]

if the cutoff is 694 for D2, Pleasanton will go to a D1 district. La Vernia most likely going with SA area teams district.

Yea, I forgot about the cutoffs and was thinking more geographically. Given the numbers about the only SA school I'd see working is Sam Houston, which doesn't do anything for me given the downward spiral of their program. Others in the area that might fit would be if Floresville and Medina Valley stayed 4a as they were both close to 1100 along with the big 3a schools of LV, Pleasanton, Somerset, Canyon Lake, and Boerne. Going to be interesting what they come up with.

[hollywood]

Matt, are all the school numbers turned in? It your list complete? If not, about how many are missing?

I noticed Brownwood wasn't on the list.

[ahs_indian_fan]

If the numbers are 695-1039 that leaves only about 75 teams in Division I ... only 58 on the old coach list but I just guessed that there are about 15 other teams that haven't emailed Matt yet. That's only 18-20 teams per region. That can't be right ... right?

Just a guess but you'd have to have at least 96 teams in a division or four six-team districts per region.

[hollywood]

If the numbers are 695-1039 that leaves only about 75 teams in Division I ... only 58 on the old coach list but I just guessed that there are about 15 other teams that haven't emailed Matt yet. That's only 18-20 teams per region. That can't be right ... right?

Just a guess but you'd have to have at least 96 teams in a division or four six-team districts per region.

I noticed quite a few schools are not on the list. We are talking the entire state of TEXAS! lol

Anyone know the total number of schools?

[Matthew328]

There's about 1070 schools that will play 11 man public school football in 2014. I've got just a little more than 600 listed, so there's a lot of unknowns out there which is why I'm hesitant to really lock in a cut line

[toddg]

it will be interesting to see how the districts will shake out...atleast the UIL is getting the map and colored map pins out earley this go around!

i would love Alvarado to be in a district that includes Stephenville, Brownwood, and Kennedale...MW and Springtown would be good too...and i know its a stretch..but AW would actually be better off going east and southeast..and before ccmom rolls her eyes...AW has got long road trips regardless which way, might as well go where there are decent restaurants and nice hotels if the need arises...Alvarado could go any direction except east/northeast/southeast...unless we get lumped in with dallas 3a schools.

[hollywood]

it will be interesting to see how the districts will shake out...atleast the UIL is getting the map and colored map pins out earley this go around!

i would love Alvarado to be in a district that includes Stephenville, Brownwood, and Kennedale...MW and Springtown would be good too...and i know its a stretch..but AW would actually be better off going east and southeast..and before ccmom rolls her eyes...AW has got long road trips regardless which way, might as well go where there are decent restaurants and nice hotels if the need arises...Alvarado could go any direction except east/northeast/southeast...unless we get lumped in with dallas 3a schools.

:iagree:


:fnypost: Too!

[ccmom]

it will be interesting to see how the districts will shake out...atleast the UIL is getting the map and colored map pins out earley this go around!

i would love Alvarado to be in a district that includes Stephenville, Brownwood, and Kennedale...MW and Springtown would be good too...and i know its a stretch..but AW would actually be better off going east and southeast..and before ccmom rolls her eyes...AW has got long road trips regardless which way, might as well go where there are decent restaurants and nice hotels if the need arises...Alvarado could go any direction except east/northeast/southeast...unless we get lumped in with dallas 3a schools.

Now why would l roll my eyes at that? :rolleyes:

I'd love to go East. Anytime you drive West, the trip automatically feels twice as long as it really is. But, I thought you said you thought we would go North? (which I still don't know what you meant by that). Are you trying to confuse me, Injun?:doh:

[panfan]

Bwoood
Fred
Burnet
The Hill
Lampasas
Gatesville

I could see Rouse and Marble Falls and maybe some of the other smaller 4a schools being thrown into the blender with the these schools based on the numbers and a district much like we havent' seen before emerging.

[greendawg84]

I could see Rouse and Marble Falls and maybe some of the other smaller 4a schools being thrown into the blender with the these schools based on the numbers and a district much like we havent' seen before emerging.

You kidding me panfan ?? 2 purple schools in our district ! Hell to the no !

[hollywood]

You kidding me panfan ?? 2 purple schools in our district ! Hell to the no !

:fnypost:

[Tiganut]

My guess:
District 1 4A Div 1
Clint Mountain View
San Elizario
Fabens
Andrews
Big Spring
District 2
Abilene Wylie
Pampa
Borger
Levelland
Lbk Estacado

[D'Highlander]

My guess:
District 1 4A Div 1
Clint Mountain View
San Elizario
Fabens
Andrews
Big Spring
District 2
Abilene Wylie
Pampa
Borger
Levelland
Lbk Estacado

ouch

[Tiganut]

4A Div 2
District 1
Pecos
Ft Stockton
Monahans
Clint
Seminole
Greenwood
District 2
Snyder
Bushland
Brownfield
Lamesa
Dalhart
Perryton
District 3
Vernon
Iowa park
Sweetwater
Bridgeport
Graham
??????

[hollywood]

My guess:
District 1 4A Div 1
Clint Mountain View
San Elizario
Fabens
Andrews
Big Spring
District 2
Abilene Wylie
Pampa
Borger
Levelland
Lbk Estacado

Lot's of travel...

I wouldn't be surprised if Abilene Wylie goes east as mentioned before.

Abilene Wylie
Alvarado
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Stephenville

[garciap77]

AW will stay 3A!

[hollywood]

AW will stay 3A!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

You got a pic of that? Sorry, GP, the results are already out. AW has 1003 students. :spitlol:

[garciap77]

There is your cutoff then!

[SHSBulldog00]

Division 1

Stafford
El Campo
Brazosport
Bay City
West Columbia
Needville
Sealy (maybe) (could go in with Navasota District)

Division 2

La Marque
Sweeny
Wharton
Brookshire Royal (could go with Bellville/Columbus/La Grange/Caldwell)
Houston KIPP Sunnyside
Yoakum

[buckeyebob]

East Texas - Land of Speed & Pretty Women

Div 1
Pittsburg 719
Carthage 723
Chapel Hill 972
Kilgore 1026
Henderson
Van 698
Liberty Eyleau 721


Div 2
Gilmer 685
Springhill 482
Tatum 518
Gladewater 545
Bullard
Atlanta 580
Pleasant Grove 623

[hollywood]

East Texas - Land of Speed & Pretty Women


:spitlol: :fnypost:

[toddg]

Lot's of travel...

I wouldn't be surprised if Abilene Wylie goes east as mentioned before.

Abilene Wylie
Alvarado
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Stephenville

That would be a great, and competitive district for sure..
Travel wouldn't bother me. That's one thing everyone will have to get used to..
Plus confusing ccmom would be an added bonus!:)

[garciap77]

Lot's of travel...

I wouldn't be surprised if Abilene Wylie goes east as mentioned before.

Abilene Wylie
Alvarado
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Stephenville

Drop Mineral Wells and add LH.

[Tiganut]

Lot's of travel...

I wouldn't be surprised if Abilene Wylie goes east as mentioned before.

Abilene Wylie
Alvarado
Brownwood
Mineral Wells
Springtown
Stephenville

The issue is filling the far West Districts. You have to pull from somewhere unless your top number is greatly raised and I don't see it if they are trying to stay 2:1 ratio.

[ccmom]

That would be a great, and competitive district for sure..
Travel wouldn't bother me. That's one thing everyone will have to get used to..
Plus confusing ccmom would be an added bonus!:)


I wouldn't mind that district, considering the alternatives. However, I'm not so sure we won't be hauling our cookies WAY out West. Somebody's gotta play those teams and there aren't a whole lot of prospects. We'll see. I'd much rather head East. I can drink faster the further East I go. ;)

[BullDawgDad]

I could see Rouse and Marble Falls and maybe some of the other smaller 4a schools being thrown into the blender with the these schools based on the numbers and a district much like we havent' seen before emerging.

Rouse is reporting 2128 so they are likely moving up and Marble Falls is reporting 1125. Most are saying that new cut off is going to be 1039, that being said Marble Falls won't be dropping down unless Dodge can get rid of about 100 kids. I see on the Old Coach web site that Liberty Hill has not posted its snap shot of current enrollment, where are they at now....my guess would be over 900 at least.

[panfan]

Rouse is reporting 2128 so they are likely moving up and Marble Falls is reporting 1125. Most are saying that new cut off is going to be 1039, that being said Marble Falls won't be dropping down unless Dodge can get rid of about 100 kids. I see on the Old Coach web site that Liberty Hill has not posted its snap shot of current enrollment, where are they at now....my guess would be over 900 at least.

Yep - I think over 900. by how much not sure.

[CP3Dad]

Not by order of what I think the set up will be.

Region 1 teams that will be 4A DIV I

Their current Districts as of now.
1) Borger, Pampa
2) Andrews, Cooper, Estacado, Levelland
3) Fabens, Mountain View
4) Big Spring, Wylie
5) Burkburnett, Hirschi
6) River Oaks Castleberry, FW Diamond Hill-Jarvis, Kennedale, Lake Worth, Mineral Wells, Springtown
7) Alvarado, Stephenville
8) Brownwood, Burnet, Gatesville, Lampass, Liberty Hill


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Hirschi might be sent with WF Rider and WFHS under the new UIL rule for magnet schools.

[Matthew328]

That magnet school rule is not new

[LHPfactory]

Drop Mineral Wells and add LH.

That would be the SEC of 4A,
But no thanks, that's way to far.

Im hoping for:
LH
LAMPASAS
BURNET
FREDERICKSBURG
CANYON LAKE
*MARBLE FALLS (if they make cut off)

[hollywood]

That would be the SEC of 4A,
But no thanks, that's way to far.

Im hoping for:
LH
LAMPASAS
BURNET
FREDERICKSBURG
CANYON LAKE
*MARBLE FALLS (if they make cut off)

LOL... No, more like the Big 12 in relation to the SEC. The SEC of 4A would be more like Dist 16... Overrated speed and teams just because they play each other and keep it all in the woods until a big bad team from out west shows them whats up! ;)

:wave:

[LHPfactory]

LOL... No, more like the Big 12 in relation to the SEC. The SEC of 4A would be more like Dist 16... Overrated speed and teams just because they play each other and keep it all in the woods until a big bad team from out west shows them whats up! ;)

:wave:

Tru-dat

[toddg]

lol... No, more like the big 12 in relation to the sec. The sec of 4a would be more like dist 16... Overrated speed and teams just because they play each other and keep it all in the woods until a big bad team from out west shows them whats up! ;)

:wave:

lol!!!

[panfan]

LOL... No, more like the Big 12 in relation to the SEC. The SEC of 4A would be more like Dist 16... Overrated speed and teams just because they play each other and keep it all in the woods until a big bad team from out west shows them whats up! ;)

:wave:

LIKE???? Wait for it.......

[waterboy]

East Texas - Land of Speed & Pretty Women

Div 1
Pittsburg 719
Carthage 723
Chapel Hill 972
Kilgore 1026
Henderson
Van 698
Liberty Eyleau 721


Div 2
Gilmer 685
Springhill 482
Tatum 518
Gladewater 545
Bullard
Atlanta 580
Pleasant Grove 623

I can't see Liberty-Eylau being in the district you mentioned, seeing as how there's schools much closer that could make up its own district. I see Liberty-Eylau in the same district as Pleasant Grove, Paris, and North Lamar regardless of which direction the district takes.

[waterboy]

:spitlol: :fnypost:

Speed, and pretty women are all over East Texas. There's a few that don't make the list, however, and it doesn't matter where you go anywhere in the country. Per capita, East Texas has more than its fair share of both.

[Rabid Cougar]

Depends upon which Region and which direction they want to put us into. I can see LaVega, China Spring and Robinson all being in the same District. I can also see them busting them up into different distirct and regions, they have done that before. There are way too many scenarios to list.

[GrTigers6]

Depends upon which Region and which direction they want to put us into. I can see LaVega, China Spring and Robinson all being in the same District. I can also see them busting them up into different distirct and regions, they have done that before. There are way too many scenarios to list.Yeah yall are worse then us. you could go north south east or west. LOL We just go east of south. But I guess they could pull us west who knows. I have a feeling we may have godley and west back in our district though

[hollywood]

Speed, and pretty women are all over East Texas. There's a few that don't make the list, however, and it doesn't matter where you go anywhere in the country. Per capita, East Texas has more than its fair share of both.

East Texas finest! We know why East Texas is known for their speed now. Gotta have it to escape all those pretty aggressive women.

http://www.danoah.com/wp-content/uploads/hillbilly-girls-country.jpg

[waterboy]

East Texas finest! We know why East Texas is known for their speed now. Gotta have it to escape all those pretty aggressive women.

http://www.danoah.com/wp-content/uploads/hillbilly-girls-country.jpg

Escape? Sometimes I used to allow them to catch me, lol, depending on what she looked like, lol. There was a time when I was pretty fast on my feet, but I chose to slow down when the right one chased me, if you know what I mean. There's really some dolls around here, for sure. I've been all over this great state, and half the country, and I still haven't found a place that has a higher per capita of pretty women. Of course, that's just my opinion.

[Rabid Cougar]

Yeah yall are worse then us. you could go north south east or west. LOL We just go east of south. But I guess they could pull us west who knows. I have a feeling we may have godley and west back in our district though

I see West being paired with Troy and McGregor. GR may be thrown in there too.

[JaJohn25]

West will drop down. No Glen Rose. Could see them being 3a Division 1 and being west, whitney, clifton, grandview, maypearl and hillsboro or palmer.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Here's how I see D16 shaping up.

D1
Kingsville
Grulla
La Feria
Hidalgo
Robstown
Rockport Fulton
Zapata

D2
Port Isabel
Rio Hondo
Progreso
Raymondville
CC West Oso
Sinton
Ingleside
Orange Grove


Lyford may remain in 3A as they are right near the proposed cutoff number.

[buckeyebob]

I can't see Liberty-Eylau being in the district you mentioned, seeing as how there's schools much closer that could make up its own district. I see Liberty-Eylau in the same district as Pleasant Grove, Paris, and North Lamar regardless of which direction the district takes.

LE should go Div 1 with 721...PG with 623 should go Div 2 as well as Atlanta...I assume Paris & North Lamar will be Div 1...who am I leaving out in the north east in 3A...3 Div 1 & 2 Div 2...where will they go?

[BJ Walters]

I've heard this and agree with it

Groesbeck
Mexia
Teague
Fairfield
Madisonville
Trinity
Palestine Westwood

[YTBulldogs]

Division 1

Stafford
El Campo
Brazosport
Bay City
West Columbia
Needville
Sealy (maybe) (could go in with Navasota District)

Division 2

La Marque
Sweeny
Wharton
Brookshire Royal (could go with Bellville/Columbus/La Grange/Caldwell)
Houston KIPP Sunnyside
Yoakum

Don't see the UIL breaking up Cuero and Yoakum. Plus, isn't there a 4A school closer than Yoakum to put in this mix. IE: Columbus. Boy, talking about a nightmare travel district for Yoakum here.

[SHSBulldog00]

Don't see the UIL breaking up Cuero and Yoakum. Plus, isn't there a 4A school closer than Yoakum to put in this mix. IE: Columbus. Boy, talking about a nightmare travel district for Yoakum here.

They may pull Columbus back in with us.

[Aesculus gilmus]

LE should go Div 1 with 721...PG with 623 should go Div 2 as well as Atlanta...I assume Paris & North Lamar will be Div 1...who am I leaving out in the north east in 3A...3 Div 1 & 2 Div 2...where will they go?

You're not leaving anyone out up that way. Most of the other schools are smaller than the current 3A with the exception of Texas High.

I think that Atlanta and Pleasant Grove are just going to have to do a lot of traveling south because they'd have to travel even farther to the west to find Div 2 schools.

I have a feeling the cutoff number may not be what Padilla thinks it is. I've always felt it'd be a bit higher than he's got it. But he's the expert.

[waterboy]

How about a district with

Gilmer
Atlanta
Pleasant Grove
Gladewater
Spring Hill
Tatum

The UIL always works their way from top to bottom, and won't be using school size so much as they will the number of schools that fill each classification, and where they are located, starting with the inner city schools. The split could be anywhere from about 690 to 750, in my opinion. I do think it will be in the 725 range. If that happens, take Tatum south and put Pittsburg in this district.

[JaJohn25]

Palestine westwood, I don't think so if they are saying the cutoff will be around 450. I think they are below that and not sure about Trinity either.

[Aesculus gilmus]

How about a district with

Gilmer
Atlanta
Pleasant Grove
Gladewater
Spring Hill
Tatum

The UIL always works their way from top to bottom, and won't be using school size so much as they will the number of schools that fill each classification, and where they are located, starting with the inner city schools. The split could be anywhere from about 690 to 750, in my opinion. I do think it will be in the 725 range. If that happens, take Tatum south and put Pittsburg in this district.

If it's in the 725 range, Liberty-Eylau would be D2 also as would Carthage. I personally would like this better. I miss the Carthage rivalry and I'll bet Carthage does also.

[techex95]

Here are a couple of different options

8 team district
Fredericksburg
Somerset
Canyon Lake
Boerne
Bandera
Pleasanton
Sam Houston
La Vernia


6 Team District
Fredericksburg
Boerne
Bandera
Somerset
Pleasanton
Sam Houston