Rank the Best 3A Teams You Have Seen Play In the Last 13 Years

[Bullaholic]

A lot of folks seem to roll their eyes everytime a "best" thread is put up. I hope this one will get away from that a little because I am only asking you to rank the best (3) 3A high school teams you have actually SEEN play in the last 13 years (2000-2013). Legit homer picks are ok. Here's mine:

1. 03' Gainesville. Very athletic and beat a tremendous Burnet team on the way to the SC.

2. 01' Commerce. Very physical. Beat a very good Bulls team with Phillip Daugherty at QB in the semis on the way to a SC.

3. 10' Brownwood. Very talented team that lost that nail biter to Carthage.

Hope we get some good memories and discussions.

[vtskneb]

1. Stephenville 2012
2. Navasota 2012
3. Kilgore 2012
4. El Campo 2012

Other than those on Stephenville's schedule last year I didn't see any other 3A teams. I also didn't see any 3A teams other than Wylie in 2010 & 2011 and Brownwood 2010/2011. None of those teams would have beaten Stephenville 2012.

[coach]

Carthage Bulldogs 2010

[Bullaholic]

This thread will be tough on G2, TXB, and Matthew328 because they have seen so many games.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

A lot of folks seem to roll their eyes everytime a "best" thread is put up. I hope this one will get away from that a little because I am only asking you to rank the best (3) 3A high school teams you have actually SEEN play in the last 13 years (2000-2013). Legit homer picks are ok. Here's mine:

1. 03' Gainesville. Very athletic and beat a tremendous Burnet team on the way to the SC.

2. 01' Commerce. Very physical. Beat a very good Bulls team with Phillip Daugherty at QB in the semis on the way to a SC.

3. 10' Brownwood. Very talented team that lost that nail biter to Carthage.

Hope we get some good memories and discussions. '01 Sinton. Speed on both sides of the ball with big defensive line anchored by 6-7 300+ defensive tackle. Not sure how many went on to play D1 ball but it was a few. We were D1 in playoffs and played Everman for the state title.

So Everman and Sinton that same year.

[HEMOTOXIC]

2007 Liberty Hill
2012 Navasota
2011 Chapel Hill

[Pudlugger]

La Grange Leopards 2000 beat Forney for the 3a DII State Championship 20-17.
2009 Carthage beat LG 27-14 in semi-final on way to SC.
2001 La Grange Leopards lost 14-11 to Commerce in SC game.

[BB BULLS]

1. Stephenville 2012
2. Navasota 2012
3. Kilgore 2012
4. El Campo 2012

Other than those on Stephenville's schedule last year I didn't see any other 3A teams. I also didn't see any 3A teams other than Wylie in 2010 & 2011 and Brownwood 2010/2011. None of those teams would have beaten Stephenville 2012.

would have love to seen Navasota vs Stephenville play last year think that would have been an all time classic.

1. Stephenville 2012 only got to see them play in SC game and they was Bad to the Bone
2. Navasota 2012 was a really fast team & strong D
3. El Campo 2012 only because they made it there last year
4. Bellville homer pick but think we could have beat El Campo at the end of last season. but i put them ahead because of where they wound up.

just got back into High school football couple years back so dont have much to go off of

[SintonFan_inAustin]

would have love to seen Navasota vs Stephenville play last year think that would have been an all time classic.

1. Stephenville 2012 only got to see them play in SC game and they was Bad to the Bone
2. Navasota 2012 was a really fast team & strong D
3. El Campo 2012 only because they made it there last year
4. Bellville homer pick but think we could have beat El Campo at the end of last season. but i put them ahead because of where they wound up.

just got back into High school football couple years back so dont have much to go off ofhow would you have compare last year Bellville to the 2001 team?

[hollywood]

With my own eye's...

1. Stephenville 2012
2. Navasota 2012
3. Brownwood 2010


Stephenville would have beaten Brownwood 2010 and Navasota 2012 by 2-3 touchdowns IMO. And I'm a Brownwood ex. I haven't witnessed a team that made improvements on a week to week basis and sharpened their execution as much as Stephenville 2012. Not the strongest D I've ever seen obviously, but that offense was flat out amazing with Jones at the helm. The OL and DL had a huge factor as well. I think Navasota 2012 would have beaten Brownwood 2010 IMO... it would have been a track meet and a close one at the end. Brownwood 2010 just didn't have the size on OL or DL to overcome the best. Skill play was up there with both Stephenville and Navasota.

[BB BULLS]

how would you have compare last year Bellville to the 2001 team?

cant answer that i was stuck in another 3a town and did not follow Bellville at that time. the other town i was in never won more than three games year for like 8 years. then i came to Bellville and got excited about it again. sorry Sinton fan

[hollywood]

A lot of folks seem to roll their eyes everytime a "best" thread is put up. I hope this one will get away from that a little because I am only asking you to rank the best (3) 3A high school teams you have actually SEEN play in the last 13 years (2000-2013). Legit homer picks are ok. Here's mine:

1. 03' Gainesville. Very athletic and beat a tremendous Burnet team on the way to the SC.

2. 01' Commerce. Very physical. Beat a very good Bulls team with Phillip Daugherty at QB in the semis on the way to a SC.

3. 10' Brownwood. Very talented team that lost that nail biter to Carthage.

Hope we get some good memories and discussions.

By the way, good thread Bullaholic!

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Here is 2001 Sinton playoff run, Gonzales, La Feria, Bellville, Bridge City and Everman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB8Bw128lDo&feature=player_detailpage#t=2600

[Aggie98]

The ones I've seen in person....

1. '09 Gilmer
2. '12 Stephenville
3. '08 Carthage

The '12 Navasota team would probably top the list had I seen them live.

[hollywood]

With my own eye's...

1. Stephenville 2012
2. Navasota 2012
3. Brownwood 2010


Stephenville would have beaten Brownwood 2010 and Navasota 2012 by 2-3 touchdowns IMO. And I'm a Brownwood ex. I haven't witnessed a team that made improvements on a week to week basis and sharpened their execution as much as Stephenville 2012. Not the strongest D I've ever seen obviously, but that offense was flat out amazing with Jones at the helm. The OL and DL had a huge factor as well. I think Navasota 2012 would have beaten Brownwood 2010 IMO... it would have been a track meet and a close one at the end. Brownwood 2010 just didn't have the size on OL or DL to overcome the best. Skill play was up there with both Stephenville and Navasota.

Just for measures... I also watched all 4 of the Stephenville 4A teams that won state... IMO, the 2012 team would have beaten all 4. The 93 and 94 teams had freaks of nature on the OL but the offenses weren't as potent. By the way, one of those OL is now on staff as an OL coach at Stephenville. ;) The 98 and 99 teams were dang good too but not as prolific as the 2012. IMO

[toddg]

1. 12' Stephenville
2. 11' Alvarado
3. 07' LH

[hollywood]

1. 12' Stephenville
2. 11' Alvarado
3. 07' LH

I thought Alvarado should have won over TCH in 2011 toddg... they were the better team IMO. Sometimes the better team doesn't win the game in the end. Brownwood 2010 is another example.

[caleb_mccaig]

1. 12' Stephenville
2. 11' Alvarado
3. 07' LH

The 06 Liberty Hill team was an incredible one.

1. 12 Stephenville
2. 07 Celina
3. 06 Liberty Hill (tie)
3. 07 La Vega

[Old Tiger]

No love for 03 or was it 04 Atlanta? That is literally the fastest team I have ever seen. They made a Marlin team with 3-5 D1 players look SLOW.

[oldtownag]

See below: :evilgrin:

[Rocket Man]

2005 Celina
2006 Robinson
2007 Liberty Hill

[Celina8]

I would say the 2007 Celina, Carthange 2009, Liberty Hill 2007.

[Rabid Cougar]

The 06 Liberty Hill team was an incredible one.

1. 12 Stephenville
2. 07 Celina
3. 06 Liberty Hill (tie)
3. 07 La Vega

07 Lavega and Celina? Intersting.

[icu812]

No love for 03 or was it 04 Atlanta? That is literally the fastest team I have ever seen. They made a Marlin team with 3-5 D1 players look SLOW.

2003. I was there for that one and also saw Atlanta crush a good Gilmer team during their playoff run that year. Absolutely the fastest defense I've seen in 3A.

So I've got Atlanta in 03, both Liberty Hill SC teams and all 3 Carthage teams. Also, that Tatum team that beat Hutto for the SC was pretty dang good to.

[slingshot]

1) 2009 Gilmer--they were awesome and Stump could have cranked it up a notch if needed
2) 2012 Stephenville--best passing team I've seen
3) tie--2011 Alvarado--at least the night we played them
3) tie--2004 Decatur--2nd best passing team I've seen, I know we beat them but hey, we had Case!

[hollywood]

1) 2009 Gilmer--they were awesome and Stump could have cranked it up a notch if needed
2) 2012 Stephenville--best passing team I've seen
3) tie--2011 Alvarado--at least the night we played them
3) tie--2004 Decatur--2nd best passing team I've seen, I know we beat them but hey, we had Case!

I didn't get to see '09 Gilmer live, but Stump was a hoss!! Great team.

[Roughneck93]

2012 Navasota
2011 Chapel Hill
2005 Wimberley
2000 La Grange

[Saggy Aggie]

2009 Gilmer/Cuero - probably the best hs game I've ever seen. 2 absolute beast teams going at it
2011 chapel hill - I think they had 6 or 7 guys go D1
2012 Navasota - best combination of offense and defense of the 3

Gotta include 05 wimberley because they absolutely spanked our asses...

[Old Tiger]

2003. I was there for that one and also saw Atlanta crush a good Gilmer team during their playoff run that year. Absolutely the fastest defense I've seen in 3A.

So I've got Atlanta in 03, both Liberty Hill SC teams and all 3 Carthage teams. Also, that Tatum team that beat Hutto for the SC was pretty dang good to.

Hutto got screwed on that punt return....

[BJ Walters]

If I may, I'd like to give a vote to the 2005 Marlin team. I was a sophomore at Groesbeck, and we had like the 4th ranked defense in 3A. Went to Marlin, knocked Jeremy Sanders out on the first play and still lost 66-28. Speed everywhere.

I'd also include 2012 Stephenville and 2011 Alvarado

[griff]

Navasota 2012.

I saw Navasota in person, saw two game films of Stephenville, and I'm not affected by the obvious Region 1 and homer bias of several posters here. Lol. So...

...with that perspective, it's my opinion that Navasota would've beaten Stephenville. I believe Navasota's speed and big play ability would have been too much for Stephenville, and the Rattler defense was definitely good enough to slow down that Stephenville finesse offense. One of the coaches at LaMarque told me last year (and this was BEFORE their matchup) that he thought Navasota was the best passing team he had ever seen in class 3A.

Still, I was not 100% convinced about Navasota until I saw them beat up on two very good defenses in consecutive playoff games (LM and WO-S). They made a believer out of me and everyone else.

For the record, I have no dog in this "opinion battle." My allegiance is to WO-S. Hats off to Navasota for being the best 3A team I've seen so far.

[Smitty]

All I can say is....Navasota had an opportunity to prove themselves against Stephenville during pre-district last year, but declined the challenge. Stephenville and Navasota had similar open dates and Stephenville was looking for a game.

Would have been a classic matchup!

[OLE'BULL]

how would you have compare last year Bellville to the 2001 team?

I don't think they were as good. I am a bit biased ;). They just didn't have the size and speed combination across the board that we had. And for the record, the 2001 Sinton team is one of the best.

[vtskneb]

Navasota 2012.

I saw Navasota in person, saw two game films of Stephenville, and I'm not affected by the obvious Region 1 and homer bias of several posters here. Lol. So...

...with that perspective, it's my opinion that Navasota would've beaten Stephenville. I believe Navasota's speed and big play ability would have been too much for Stephenville, and the Rattler defense was definitely good enough to slow down that Stephenville finesse offense. One of the coaches at LaMarque told me last year (and this was BEFORE their matchup) that he thought Navasota was the best passing team he had ever seen in class 3A.

Still, I was not 100% convinced about Navasota until I saw them beat up on two very good defenses in consecutive playoff games (LM and WO-S). They made a believer out of me and everyone else.

For the record, I have no dog in this "opinion battle." My allegiance is to WO-S. Hats off to Navasota for being the best 3A team I've seen so far.

You can have your opinion but La Marque didn't have to scout Stephenville so of course he was only going on the teams he saw. I watched the Sota SC game and they didn't have a better pass attack than the Jackets. And if you think their offense was finesse you weren't watching the film very close. Thanks for your obviously objective viewpoint, though. lol.

Hollywood, jmo but that was the 6 best team in the last 20 years for Stephenville. My order would be 94, 93, 98, 99, 05, 12. All but one were state champs.

[BCain1963]

I will have to go back a little further.
1). Hull-Dasietta SC 1980
2). Stephenville SC 2012
3). El campo SF 2012
As others have said " just haven't kept up with HS football until last season". Other than back in the day.

[Smitty]

Navasota 2012.

I saw Navasota in person, saw two game films of Stephenville, and I'm not affected by the obvious Region 1 and homer bias of several posters here. Lol. So...

...with that perspective, it's my opinion that Navasota would've beaten Stephenville. I believe Navasota's speed and big play ability would have been too much for Stephenville, and the Rattler defense was definitely good enough to slow down that Stephenville finesse offense. One of the coaches at LaMarque told me last year (and this was BEFORE their matchup) that he thought Navasota was the best passing team he had ever seen in class 3A.

Still, I was not 100% convinced about Navasota until I saw them beat up on two very good defenses in consecutive playoff games (LM and WO-S). They made a believer out of me and everyone else.

For the record, I have no dog in this "opinion battle." My allegiance is to WO-S. Hats off to Navasota for being the best 3A team I've seen so far.

Ok, I will say my peace and then move on.

Stephenville tagged an undefeated El Campo team for 70 points (State Championship scoring record) and had only one defensive TD in the game. Navasota may have slowed the Jackets down, but would have been given their first loss. JMHO

[Deuce]

1. '12 Ville
2. '12 Sota
3. '09 Carthage- if Graham would have had a kicker we could have won that game!

[Weebe]

would have love to seen Navasota vs Stephenville play last year think that would have been an all time classic.

1. Stephenville 2012 only got to see them play in SC game and they was Bad to the Bone
2. Navasota 2012 was a really fast team & strong D
3. El Campo 2012 only because they made it there last year
4. Bellville homer pick but think we could have beat El Campo at the end of last season. but i put them ahead because of where they wound up.

just got back into High school football couple years back so dont have much to go off of

El Campo dominated Bellville last year. The game wasn't as close as the score indicated.

The only teams that had a chance against El Campo last year were passing teams.

[LH Panther Mom]

1. 2007 Liberty Hill 2. 2006 Liberty Hill 3. (tie) 2002 & 2003 Burnet And yes, call me biased if you want. I have to pick those Burnet teams because I didn't see them in their state championship games to pick against them.

[griff]

All I can say is....Navasota had an opportunity to prove themselves against Stephenville during pre-district last year, but declined the challenge. Stephenville and Navasota had similar open dates and Stephenville was looking for a game.

Would have been a classic matchup!

That proves nothing. Has anyone asked the Navasota HC why he didn't accept the offer? I'm sure there was a reason other than the implied "they were scared."

[griff]

You can have your opinion but La Marque didn't have to scout Stephenville so of course he was only going on the teams he saw. I watched the Sota SC game and they didn't have a better pass attack than the Jackets. And if you think their offense was finesse you weren't watching the film very close. Thanks for your obviously objective viewpoint, though. lol.

Hollywood, jmo but that was the 6 best team in the last 20 years for Stephenville. My order would be 94, 93, 98, 99, 05, 12. All but one were state champs.

Nope...sorry, but the LM coach did watch film of Stephenville, as well. You know...some of you guys have a hard time digesting the dissenting opinion that Navasota possibly could have beaten Stephenville. Your opinion is just opinion, just as mine is. I have no problem accepting that Stephenville COULD have won, but with some of you Stephenville guys and Region 1 followers, it's an IMPOSSIBILITY, and that's just silly.

[GrTigers6]

2012 Stephenville Not a real good defense but good enough to win the games with a top notch offense that could score from anywhere on the field.
2010 Brownwood Another all around offense
2007 Celina One of the fastest teams I have ever seen both offensively and defense. If you missed one tackle you never got another chance. they were GONE!

[griff]

Remember when Stephenville played Beaumont Ozen last year? There was a starter on that Ozen team who later transferred to WO-S. He played in the WO-S game against Navasota. So, he played against both Stephenville and Navasota. For curiosity, I may ask his opinion of the two teams and get his assessment. It'll make for fun conversation. I'll check back on this.

[hollywood]

The beauty of this thread is everyone has their opinion. It's subjective. Debate debate debate. Example, will we ever know if the 2009 Gilmer team would have beaten the 2010 Carthage team? No. Or will we ever know if the 2012 Navasota team would have beaten the 2012 Stephenville team? No. But we can all have an opinion.

[Papá Oso]

07 lh

[hollywood]

Remember when Stephenville played Beaumont Ozen last year? There was a starter on that Ozen team who later transferred to WO-S. He played in the WO-S game against Navasota. So, he played against both Stephenville and Navasota. For curiosity, I may ask his opinion of the two teams and get his assessment. It'll make for fun conversation. I'll check back on this.

That wouldn't be a good assessment. The Ozen game was the 3rd game of the season for Stephenville. Not sure when Navasota played WOS. I bet everyone that watched Stephenville in 2012 would agree the peaked in the SC game. Almost flawless execution.

[HEMOTOXIC]

That wouldn't be a good assessment. The Ozen game was the 3rd game of the season for Stephenville. Not sure when Navasota played WOS. I bet everyone that watched Stephenville in 2012 would agree the peaked in the SC game. Almost flawless execution.

In that case, if Navasota had played Stephenville in the regular season, would that have been a good assessment of either team?

Both teams were excellent when it counted.

[Txbroadcaster]

That wouldn't be a good assessment. The Ozen game was the 3rd game of the season for Stephenville. Not sure when Navasota played WOS. I bet everyone that watched Stephenville in 2012 would agree the peaked in the SC game. Almost flawless execution.

So did Sota...I went into that weekend thinking Ville was best in state BY FAR...after that weekend..those two teams play 10 times I think it is 5-5

[hollywood]

Nope...sorry, but the LM coach did watch film of Stephenville, as well. You know...some of you guys have a hard time digesting the dissenting opinion that Navasota possibly could have beaten Stephenville. Your opinion is just opinion, just as mine is. I have no problem accepting that Stephenville COULD have won, but with some of you Stephenville guys and Region 1 followers, it's an IMPOSSIBILITY, and that's just silly.

La Marque coaches believed they would beat the snot out of Stephenville each of the 3 times they played them for the SC after watching film on them. How did that work out? ;)

[hollywood]

So did Sota...I went into that weekend thinking Ville was best in state BY FAR...after that weekend..those two teams play 10 times I think it is 5-5

I agree

[hollywood]

In that case, if Navasota had played Stephenville in the regular season, would that have been a good assessment of either team?

Both teams were excellent when it counted.

I agree. Both were unproven early on. As the season progressed, both did what championship teams do... Get better each week by perfecting execution.

[hollywood]

Nope...sorry, but the LM coach did watch film of Stephenville, as well. You know...some of you guys have a hard time digesting the dissenting opinion that Navasota possibly could have beaten Stephenville. Your opinion is just opinion, just as mine is. I have no problem accepting that Stephenville COULD have won, but with some of you Stephenville guys and Region 1 followers, it's an IMPOSSIBILITY, and that's just silly.

It's not that we believe they couldn't be beat, every team is beatable. Heck, Stephenville did lose... To a Mexican team! Lol But doesn't mean they would have gotten beat in week 14 or even 15 if they played the next week. It's a matter of opinion. No one will ever know. I do know this. Navasota was a very well coached team and deserved everything they worked for.

[vtskneb]

Nope...sorry, but the LM coach did watch film of Stephenville, as well. You know...some of you guys have a hard time digesting the dissenting opinion that Navasota possibly could have beaten Stephenville. Your opinion is just opinion, just as mine is. I have no problem accepting that Stephenville COULD have won, but with some of you Stephenville guys and Region 1 followers, it's an IMPOSSIBILITY, and that's just silly.

Scoreboard dude. You talk in hypothetical but I am being impossible. And remind me again La Marque's record against Stephenville? But it is us who are being impossible. Thanks for staying objective. Could Navasota have beaten Stephenville, maybe but Stephenville was better from what I saw. By the way, why on earth was a La Marque coach studying Stephenville film last year? Explains their loss.

[bearbear78]

Scoreboard dude. You talk in hypothetical but I am being impossible. And remind me again La Marque's record against Stephenville? But it is us who are being impossible. Thanks for staying objective. Could Navasota have beaten Stephenville, maybe but Stephenville was better from what I saw. By the way, why on earth was a La Marque coach studying Stephenville film last year? Explains their loss.
Wow...fired up when someone's OPINION on this OPINION driven thread doesn't please you because it is not of ville worship....funny

[hollywood]

Wow...fired up when someone's OPINION on this OPINION driven thread doesn't please you because it is not of ville worship....funny

Here we go! Lol

[vtskneb]

Wow...fired up when someone's OPINION on this OPINION driven thread doesn't please you because it is not of ville worship....funny

Everyone should kneel at the alter :)

[hollywood]

Let me ask this question since we're on the subject of best teams witnessed. What are the chances Stephenville wins another SC this season? :)

[Txbroadcaster]

Let me ask this question since we're on the subject of best teams witnessed. What are the chances Stephenville wins another SC this season? :)


fair to midland

[bearbear78]

Let me ask this question since we're on the subject of best teams witnessed. What are the chances Stephenville wins another SC this season? :)
I'd say they are capable, and likely to do it.....as long as they don't run up against Graham along the way.. (:


Sorry Hollywood I'm bored and the door was open

[hollywood]

I'd say they are capable, and likely to do it.....as long as they don't run up against Graham along the way.. (:


Sorry Hollywood I'm bored and the door was open

I respect that homerism!

The reason I mentioned it... SC's 1 and 2 were back to back, '93 and '94. SC's 3 and 4 were back to back, '98 and '99. Could history repeat itself?

[hollywood]

fair to midland

so so? That's it txbroadcaster? So so? Lol

[bearbear78]

I respect that homerism!

The reason I mentioned it... SC's 1 and 2 were back to back, '93 and '94. SC's 3 and 4 were back to back, '98 and '99. Could history repeat itself?
The answer remains the same lol......seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me..I'd love to see Graham vs Ville though...very similar where the talent lies in these two teams and I think it'd be a really good game of football..the winner would have to be perfect on that night...IMO

[hollywood]

The answer remains the same lol......seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me..I'd love to see Graham vs Ville though...very similar where the talent lies in these two teams and I think it'd be a really good game of football..the winner would have to be perfect on that night...IMO

Trust me, I'd love to see a Graham/Stephenville match up as well! We won't know there's even a chance until what, last week in district?

I will say I really like Graham's program and fans. Know several folks from there. Great program and community. From what I've seen, it would be a great atmosphere and game for about 3 qtrs IMO. I think Stephenville would have the upper hand purely on size and a few more weapons than Graham. What Graham does is execute their scheme very well and have above average athletes and speed to compliment. Stephenville has all that plus some. Just my opinion and from what I've seen. Hope we get to find out! Game would be played in Miserable Wells if it happens I bet.

[cowboyandchrist]

Tatum 2005 9 D1 players and 4 NFL players
Carthage 2008 and 2010

[Old Tiger]

The answer remains the same lol......seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me..I'd love to see Graham vs Ville though...very similar where the talent lies in these two teams and I think it'd be a really good game of football..the winner would have to be perfect on that night...IMO
dude, the ville blows out graham.

[Txbroadcaster]

so so? That's it txbroadcaster? So so? Lol

remember I am the supposed Anti-Ville guy so I have to stick with it

[bearbear78]

I respect that homerism!

The reason I mentioned it... SC's 1 and 2 were back to back, '93 and '94. SC's 3 and 4 were back to back, '98 and '99. Could history repeat itself?


dude, the ville blows out graham.

Like GR did last year? Oh wait, that was a trip to the woodshed for the tigers huh? Still a lil bitter ?

[Txbroadcaster]

Like GR did last year? Oh wait, that was a trip to the woodshed for the tigers huh? Still a lil bitter ?

He is not from GR.

[Old Tiger]

Like GR did last year? Oh wait, that was a trip to the woodshed for the tigers huh? Still a lil bitter ?

Interesting, I have no concern for Glen Rose because I am not from there. I have little concern about my alma mater because I only travel there every couple of months to visit my family. So nothing you can say about any score regarding Rockdale will effect me, nor has it ever effected me on this forum.

[griff]

La Marque coaches believed they would beat the snot out of Stephenville each of the 3 times they played them for the SC after watching film on them. How did that work out? ;)

Dude, that was several years ago. I'm speaking about one coach's opinion that was not part of the LM staff when they played Stephenville way back when.

[griff]

In that case, if Navasota had played Stephenville in the regular season, would that have been a good assessment of either team?

Both teams were excellent when it counted.

I was thinking the same thing. Someone made an issue about the open date where these two teams could have played each other. If that game would have happened, would it have mattered who won? That would have been played early in the season before each team peaked.

[panfan]

Wow...fired up when someone's OPINION on this OPINION driven thread doesn't please you because it is not of ville worship....funny

Oh great and powerful ville, we are not worthy..... :doh:


LH 06 and 07 and the teams they played were pretty durn good

[coach]

If I may, I'd like to give a vote to the 2005 Marlin team. I was a sophomore at Groesbeck, and we had like the 4th ranked defense in 3A. Went to Marlin, knocked Jeremy Sanders out on the first play and still lost 66-28. Speed everywhere.

I'd also include 2012 Stephenville and 2011 Alvarado

Didint yall lose to Fairified that year too?

[coach]

Tatum 2005 9 D1 players and 4 NFL players
Carthage 2008 and 2010

Who were the 4 NFL players?

[griff]

Scoreboard dude. You talk in hypothetical but I am being impossible. And remind me again La Marque's record against Stephenville? But it is us who are being impossible. Thanks for staying objective. Could Navasota have beaten Stephenville, maybe but Stephenville was better from what I saw. By the way, why on earth was a La Marque coach studying Stephenville film last year? Explains their loss.

This is at least the second post about Stephenville beating LaMarque many years ago. What the heck does that have to do with LM in 2012? Nothing. Get serious.

The coach I speak of wasn't scouting Stephenville while preparing for another team and he was not part of their staff when they played Stephenville in another decade.

Wow...you actually gave a hint of objectivity..."maybe" Navasota could have beaten Stephenville. That's a far cry from SOME of the Yellowjacket fans who have beaten their chest since last year. Again, my bottom line is this. I think Navasota could have and would have beaten Stephenville, BUT...it is definitely conceivable that Stephenville would have won that matchup. It's the "no way Navasota can beat Stephenville" mantra from some that is just goofy.

And, please...no more references to the LM/Stephenville games. It makes you look ridiculous when making a case for Stephenville vs. Navasota in 2012.

[griff]

Wow...fired up when someone's OPINION on this OPINION driven thread doesn't please you because it is not of ville worship....funny

Lol. Exactly.

[coach]

That 05 Marlin team was overrated. We only lost to Marlin by 3 touchdowns and it was really a lot closer than that. They went up two tds with a couple of minutes left in the game then kicked an onside kick. Recovered it then went deep to put them up by 3 tds.

[hollywood]

This is at least the second post about Stephenville beating LaMarque many years ago. What the heck does that have to do with LM in 2012? Nothing. Get serious.

The coach I speak of wasn't scouting Stephenville while preparing for another team and he was not part of their staff when they played Stephenville in another decade.

Wow...you actually gave a hint of objectivity..."maybe" Navasota could have beaten Stephenville. That's a far cry from SOME of the Yellowjacket fans who have beaten their chest since last year. Again, my bottom line is this. I think Navasota could have and would have beaten Stephenville, BUT...it is definitely conceivable that Stephenville would have won that matchup. It's the "no way Navasota can beat Stephenville" mantra from some that is just goofy.

And, please...no more references to the LM/Stephenville games. It makes you look ridiculous when making a case for Stephenville vs. Navasota in 2012.

If I were an outsider looking in... I can see how some posts come across as "chest beating". But it's a message board and members can boast their opinions as they wish as long as they are under the guidelines. Okay, I’m glad we got that cleared up. I guarantee you the coaches and players in Stephenville are humble, yet confident. Please don't get this confused with "over confident" or "overly cocky". Does Stephenville expect to win every game they play? Heck yes! Always. Go read the article on the Art Briles thread I posted. You have to understand where Stephenville came from. They came from being the common scheduled homecoming opponent, the laughing stock of the district, the whipping boy of Brownwood and Cleburne to being a state and national known program. Art Briles instilled the confidence or "cocky" into the community. It's imbedded in the kids. It's the expectations of winning through hard work, commitment, discipline, knowledge, and execution. I'm sure there are many programs that have similar expectations. Brownwood is an example. I know because I played there. It's still there. That's why Brownwood posters get trashed on here more times than not. They will be back. It's the expectations going into every season to be the best. When they fail at that, it's easy to bash them. IF Stephenville would have lost in the playoffs before the State game last season... could you imagine all the bashing of Stephenville that would have been unleashed?? lol Look what happened to Brownwood in 2010.. they were bashed so much they had to change their school colors from maroon to deep purple! J/K So when you hear Stephenville posters speak with confidence, it's because the expectation to beat every team they play, is there.


One more thing griff... the reason La Marque and Stephenville got brought up is because you brought it up. Your comment of a La Marque coach seeing "video" of Stephenville and basing his OPINION on whether Navasota would have beaten Stephenville or not is about as relevant as anyone else getting on here and voicing their opinion. We’ve watched plenty of video of Navasota and opinions haven’t changed. I believe Stephenville would have beat Navasota. Does that mean they would have, no.

[caleb_mccaig]

Who were the 4 NFL players?

China Spring played them in the playoffs also, the only two I remember that went D-1 were Jeremy Sanders (Baylor) and Danario Alexander (Mizzou). Alexander ended up playing in the league for a bit but I have no idea if he's still there.

Totally responded to the wrong post haha, thought you were still talking about Marlin.

[Sville]

Just for measures... I also watched all 4 of the Stephenville 4A teams that won state... IMO, the 2012 team would have beaten all 4. The 93 and 94 teams had freaks of nature on the OL but the offenses weren't as potent. By the way, one of those OL is now on staff as an OL coach at Stephenville. ;) The 98 and 99 teams were dang good too but not as prolific as the 2012. IMO

I have to disagree, the '94 team IMO was the best Sville team ever. That team had 16 future college football players on it. Both teams had prolific offenses but the difference between the two was defense. The '94 defense had 3 D1 defensive backs, future all-time leading tackler for ACU at MLB, and the 4A defensive player of the year on the DL.

[Matthew328]

2005 Tatum was pretty loaded

Seniors
Clarence Leatch signed with TCU
Daylon McCoy signed with UL-Lafayette
Carson Blackmon signed with Houston
Isiah Thompson signed with Houston

Juniors
Lennon Creer signed with Tennesee; transferred to La Tech...plays for Tennessee Titans
Denarius Moore signed with Tennessee..plays for Oakland Raiders

Sophomores
Chance Blackmon signed with Colorado; transferred to Houston
Bryce Beall signed with Houston; has bounced around some NFL practice squads

Thats all I could find

[Matthew328]

I have to disagree, the '94 team IMO was the best Sville team ever. That team had 16 future college football players on it. Both teams had prolific offenses but the difference between the two was defense. The '94 defense had 3 D1 defensive backs, future all-time leading tackler for ACU at MLB, and the 4A defensive player of the year on the DL.



Most folks who have been around Sstephenville agree the 94 team was their best ever

[Slick50]

Most folks who have been around Sstephenville agree the 94 team was their best ever

Who was the QB in 94?

[Celina8]

Most folks who have been around Sstephenville agree the 94 team was their best ever

What I remember about the 94 Stephenville team was how big their offensive line was and just how good the line played. They just dominated any defensive unit they played.

[Deuce]

Who was the QB in 94?

Brandon Stewart I believe. That's when I was playing baseball at Tarleton. Kid was such a great athlete that major league baseball scouts showed up to Ville's baseball games to see if he was any good!

[coach]

China Spring played them in the playoffs also, the only two I remember that went D-1 were Jeremy Sanders (Baylor) and Danario Alexander (Mizzou). Alexander ended up playing in the league for a bit but I have no idea if he's still there.

Totally responded to the wrong post haha, thought you were still talking about Marlin.

lol its alright. Denario is still in the league but got hurt in preseason with a knee injury.

[hollywood]

I have to disagree, the '94 team IMO was the best Sville team ever. That team had 16 future college football players on it. Both teams had prolific offenses but the difference between the two was defense. The '94 defense had 3 D1 defensive backs, future all-time leading tackler for ACU at MLB, and the 4A defensive player of the year on the DL.

Yep, you got a point Sville. That defense was awesome. Was it the '98 team that had the Luker and Cardwell combo? That offense was awesome and set records for yards in a season. But this 2012 team... wow. That offense was designed to score on every touch of the ball.

[Slick50]

Yep, you got a point Sville. That defense was awesome. Was it the '98 team that had the Luker and Cardwell combo? That offense was awesome and set records for yards in a season. But this 2012 team... wow. That offense was designed to score on every touch of the ball.
Yes, Luker and Cardwell were in '98, both went to SMU.

[Slick50]

Brandon Stewart I believe. That's when I was playing baseball at Tarleton. Kid was such a great athlete that major league baseball scouts showed up to Ville's baseball games to see if he was any good!

Just found it, Stewart in '93 and Glenn O'Dell in '94.

[hollywood]

Yes, Luker and Cardwell were in '98, both went to SMU.

I know Luker just couldn't remember from memory which year. Luker is coaching QB's at a school in Florida now.

[hollywood]

I watched the Abilene Wylie and Decatur game in '04 at Tarleton Memorial when they played. Great game. All we heard was how good Decatur was. Both were pretty good, but weren't best 3A teams I've seen. Each had great players though. Keenum for Wylie and Dane for Decatur. Actually, Dane out played Keenum. They just couldn't get it in the endzone. Only 1 TD scored by Decatur. Other points were from FG's.

[icu812]

2005 Tatum was pretty loaded

Seniors
Clarence Leatch signed with TCU
Daylon McCoy signed with UL-Lafayette
Carson Blackmon signed with Houston
Isiah Thompson signed with Houston

Juniors
Lennon Creer signed with Tennesee; transferred to La Tech...plays for Tennessee Titans
Denarius Moore signed with Tennessee..plays for Oakland Raiders

Sophomores
Chance Blackmon signed with Colorado; transferred to Houston
Bryce Beall signed with Houston; has bounced around some NFL practice squads

Thats all I could find

Thanks, that is impressive! When you consider they were a borderline 2A school its just crazy. Pound for pound Tatum has as much talent as anybody.

[coach]

Im still waiing on the 4 nfl players

[Sville]

What I remember about the 94 Stephenville team was how big their offensive line was and just how good the line played. They just dominated any defensive unit they played.

That year Sville's OL avg. size was larger than the Cowboys. That OL had 3 D1 players, 1 D2, and 1 D3.

Jacket fans have hijacked this thread.

[Txbroadcaster]

Im still waiing on the 4 nfl players

Creer...Thompson...Moore..Beall I know for sure

[Txbroadcaster]

That year Sville's OL avg. size was larger than the Cowboys. That OL had 3 D1 players, 1 D2, and 1 D3.

Jacket fans have hijacked this thread.

Really? Bigger than a NFC champ team with the likes of Newton and Allen?

[Sville]

Back to the OP original question. My answer may surprise everyone.

1. Navasota 2012- I believe their offense was every bit as good as Sville's but they had a better defense. That DT #68 is a beast.
2. Stephenville 2012-For obvious reasons.
3. Carthage 2010
4. Brownwood 2010

[Sville]

Really? Bigger than a NFC champ team with the likes of Newton and Allen?

According to an article the FWST did in '94. I bet I still have it in a scrap book at home. That Cowboy team also had Stepnoski who went about 255.

[Bullaholic]

Back to the OP original question. My answer may surprise everyone.

1. Navasota 2012- I believe their offense was every bit as good as Sville's but they had a better defense. That DT #68 is a beast.
2. Stephenville 2012-For obvious reasons.
3. Carthage 2010
4. Brownwood 2010

Very honest post---along with Hemo's in the same regard. Truly a shame that 12' Navasota and SVille could not have played. Thx to everyone for all the replies--a lot of good insightful and historical info along with the usual tongue-in-cheek stuff...Please continue with it....

[Txbroadcaster]

According to an article the FWST did in '94. I bet I still have it in a scrap book at home. That Cowboy team also had Stepnoski who went about 255.


yea was only one under 320..sorry I think that is hyperbole at it's finest unless I see a roster from that time

[Sville]

yea was only one under 320..sorry I think that is hyperbole at it's finest unless I see a roster from that time

According to football reference 1994 Cowboy OL
LT- Mark Tuninei 6'5 302
LG- Nate Newton 6'3 318
C- Mark Stepnoski 6'2 260
RG- Derek Kennard 6'3 285
RT- Larry Allen 6'3 325

I will see if I can't dig that article up out of my scrap book and find a '94 program

[toddg]

That year Sville's OL avg. size was larger than the Cowboys. That OL had 3 D1 players, 1 D2, and 1 D3.

Jacket fans have hijacked this thread.

I remember they didn't stop blocking until the whistle.. Sometimes well after lol!! Bad A__ unit!!!

[hollywood]

I have to disagree, the '94 team IMO was the best Sville team ever. That team had 16 future college football players on it. Both teams had prolific offenses but the difference between the two was defense. The '94 defense had 3 D1 defensive backs, future all-time leading tackler for ACU at MLB, and the 4A defensive player of the year on the DL.

I'll have to disagree with you Sville. I know you are a home grown homer and all and played on a SC team, correct? Was it 1994? ;) I'm not from Stephenville. You know where I'm from. I am not as biased as many may think. Yes I support Stephenville because I've lived here for over 18 years. I know and have known several players over the years from the time they were toddlers. I've watched every state championship team Stephenville has fielded. Stephenville hasn't fielded a more explosive offensive "team" than the 2012 except for the 1998 team with Luker and Cardwell IMO. If the coaches wanted to keep the peddle down during a majority of those games last year, we would have witnessed some crazy stats and scores. I know why they didn't. They had a bigger goal. Just about every game in the playoffs could have been like the El Campo game. They had more in the tank so to speak. That's what was so great about the 2012 team. They could crank it up a notch or three if they needed. Put it this way.. Luker is a humble guy. He said this years offense would have beat them in 1998. Said Jones was one of the best QB's he's seen come through Stephenville with a stronger supporting cast than he had. There ya go. ;)

I'm glad we have our own opinions on here... that's what makes this fun!

[CP3Dad]

According to football reference 1994 Cowboy OL
LT- Mark Tuninei 6'5 302
LG- Nate Newton 6'3 318
C- Mark Stepnoski 6'2 260
RG- Derek Kennard 6'3 285
RT- Larry Allen 6'3 325

I will see if I can't dig that article up out of my scrap book and find a '94 program

Derek Kennard was 285? In Jr. High, maybe. Remember that butt being about 2 bills.

[coach]

Creer...Thompson...Moore..Beall I know for sure

My bad. Just saw your other post

[HEMOTOXIC]

2007 Liberty Hill
2012 Navasota
2011 Chapel Hill

Let me clarify, I didn't see the 2012 Yellojackets in person. But, from what I saw on film, they would rank somewhere at the top.

[hollywood]

I know this is a stretch. But a hypothetical scenario for discussion.


Abilene Wylie 2012 would have given Gilmer 2012 a game IMO.
Abilene Wylie beat Graham 31-7
Gilmer beat Graham 50-7
Stephenville beat Abilene Wylie 59-28
Gilmer beat Kilgore 20-14
Stephenville beat Kilgore 42-32
Navasota beat Gilmer 39-3
Gilmer beat Chapel Hill 50-28
Carthage beat Chapel Hill 30-6
El Campo beat Carthage 29-25
Stephenville beat El Campo 70-35


Woulda coulda kind of stuff I know. But after seeing all teams mentioned play (Navasota/Gilmer live TV), Stephenville/Navasota would have been a heck of a game! Team with the ball at the end the winner. Neither team would have been able to stop the others offense IMO.

[bd62]

"1 Stephenville 2012
"2 Gilmer. 2009
"3 Liberty Hill. 2007

[Old Tiger]

That 05 Marlin team was overrated. We only lost to Marlin by 3 touchdowns and it was really a lot closer than that. They went up two tds with a couple of minutes left in the game then kicked an onside kick. Recovered it then went deep to put them up by 3 tds.

The 03 Marlin team was way better than the 05 IMO.


Matterial Richardson - Arkansas
D'Nerian Wrighter - Arkansas
Denario Alexander - Missouri - Current NFL
Jeremy Sanders - Baylor
Tank Johnson - One of the best most physical runningbacks I've ever played against.

[Old Tiger]

One of the biggest offensive lines I have evern played against was Hutto when they lost to Tatum in state.

[Txbroadcaster]

Derek Kennard was 285? In Jr. High, maybe. Remember that butt being about 2 bills.

Newton was not 318 LOL about 340...Kennard was about 335..Tui 315...Allen about 330..not sure where Pro Football reference gets the listed weights but they are very very generous LOL

[toddg]

Newton was not 318 LOL about 340...Kennard was about 335..Tui 315...Allen about 330..not sure where Pro Football reference gets the listed weights but they are very very generous LOL
Was Big E already gone by 94'?

[Txbroadcaster]

Was Big E already gone by 94'?

half of year..that was the year of his wreck

[griff]

If I were an outsider looking in... I can see how some posts come across as "chest beating". But it's a message board and members can boast their opinions as they wish as long as they are under the guidelines. Okay, I’m glad we got that cleared up. I guarantee you the coaches and players in Stephenville are humble, yet confident. Please don't get this confused with "over confident" or "overly cocky". Does Stephenville expect to win every game they play? Heck yes! Always. Go read the article on the Art Briles thread I posted. You have to understand where Stephenville came from. They came from being the common scheduled homecoming opponent, the laughing stock of the district, the whipping boy of Brownwood and Cleburne to being a state and national known program. Art Briles instilled the confidence or "cocky" into the community. It's imbedded in the kids. It's the expectations of winning through hard work, commitment, discipline, knowledge, and execution. I'm sure there are many programs that have similar expectations. Brownwood is an example. I know because I played there. It's still there. That's why Brownwood posters get trashed on here more times than not. They will be back. It's the expectations going into every season to be the best. When they fail at that, it's easy to bash them. IF Stephenville would have lost in the playoffs before the State game last season... could you imagine all the bashing of Stephenville that would have been unleashed?? lol Look what happened to Brownwood in 2010.. they were bashed so much they had to change their school colors from maroon to deep purple! J/K So when you hear Stephenville posters speak with confidence, it's because the expectation to beat every team they play, is there.


One more thing griff... the reason La Marque and Stephenville got brought up is because you brought it up. Your comment of a La Marque coach seeing "video" of Stephenville and basing his OPINION on whether Navasota would have beaten Stephenville or not is about as relevant as anyone else getting on here and voicing their opinion. We’ve watched plenty of video of Navasota and opinions haven’t changed. I believe Stephenville would have beat Navasota. Does that mean they would have, no.

No need to defend the confidence and expectations the community has about your team. The same atmosphere exists in a few other places, as well, including at my alma mater (WO-S). I understand that. Anytime you win a state title, especially more than one in a short span of seasons, it will create that electricity among fans. My reference to "chest beating" was more about what I see as a "how dare you think Navasota could have beat us" mentality, as if the Stephenville homers have a monopoly on what the OPINIONS should be. That is the perception that some of you have created here, and that's a separate issue than having confidence in your team.

About the LaMarque/Stephenville comments, yeah, I brought up one of their coach's opinions. It was worthy of including in this conversation, but for goodness sake...why in the world did you or anyone else bring up games they played back in the 90's, as if that had anything to do with a Stephenville/Navasota comparison from 2012?

For what it's worth, know this...I have a ton of respect for Stephenville's program for what they are NOW, and what Art Briles did there. To do what he did as a high school coach and translate that into major college success, produce a Heisman winner, and put his team in contention to win the Big 12...at BAYLOR! Amazing. He is worthy of National Coach of the Year this season. I really hope Baylor can win the Big 12 and get a shot at a BCS game.

[BwdLion73]

Well I see we have made 8 pages of the best teams you have "seen" play turn into "my team" could have beat "your team"....and we are getting back to the 90's. Keep it up and I will be able to participate when we get back the 70's. :)

[hollywood]

Well I see we have made 8 pages of the best teams you have "seen" play turn into "my team" could have beat "your team"....and we are getting back to the 90's. Keep it up and I will be able to participate when we get back the 70's. :)

:fnypost:

[Old Tiger]

1926 Waco High!

[BwdLion73]

1926 Waco High!

Yup...they had some of the best looking leather helmets I ever saw...damn sure could have beat that 2012 Jacket team.

[Old Tiger]

Yup...they had some of the best looking leather helmets I ever saw...damn sure could have beat that 2012 Jacket team.

With todays training and technology I believe so. Speed all over the place and they could throw the forward pass!

[hollywood]

One of the biggest offensive lines I have evern played against was Hutto when they lost to Tatum in state.

You talkin about the Hippos?

[Old Tiger]

You talkin about the Hippos?

Indeed.

[D'Highlander]

2012 Cricketville
2012 Sorta
2010 Burntwood


The only reason I put the Ville over Navasota is I don't think they could score every time they touched the ball like the Jackets could do the last few games. I would have paid good money to see that game.

[waterboy]

1. '07 Liberty Hill
2. '09 Gilmer
3. '12 Navasota
4. '03 Atlanta - too bad they had those losses early in the year. Don't know how.
5. '12 Stephenville
6. '08 Carthage
7. '04 Gilmer

This is just based on the games I saw, whether live, or in person. You could probably jumble them around in any order, and be just as likely to be right. It's very hard to compare teams from one year to another.

[Saggy Aggie]

You can not include 09 Gilmer on this list if you don't include 09 Cuero IMO.

Yes Gilmer won, but barely. I'd argue Cuero was the better team honestly. Those were 2 great teams. And Gilmer of course absolutely smoked Wylie the next week for state at SMU. Damn it was cold that night

[1st and goal]

+1 Saggy

Lh's state championship team with Brent Bode.
Carthage's state championship team that beat Giddings at the semi finals.
Navasota last year.

Have not seen Stephenville or they'd be on the list.

[hollywood]

You can not include 09 Gilmer on this list if you don't include 09 Cuero IMO.

Yes Gilmer won, but barely. I'd argue Cuero was the better team honestly. Those were 2 great teams. And Gilmer of course absolutely smoked Wylie the next week for state at SMU. Damn it was cold that night

Remember, thread title is 3A teams you have seen play. ;)

[waterboy]

You can not include 09 Gilmer on this list if you don't include 09 Cuero IMO.

Yes Gilmer won, but barely. I'd argue Cuero was the better team honestly. Those were 2 great teams. And Gilmer of course absolutely smoked Wylie the next week for state at SMU. Damn it was cold that night

Cuero was good, no doubt, but better? Unh Unh... If not for the three turnovers in the first half, I think Gilmer would've won by at least two TDs, in my opinion. Gilmer was not going to lose that night, because Stump was going to make sure of it.

[hollywood]

Cuero was good, no doubt, but better? Unh Unh... If not for the three turnovers in the first half, I think Gilmer would've won by at least two TDs, in my opinion. Gilmer was not going to lose that night, because Stump was going to make sure of it.

What's the latest on Stump by the way? Is he still at NM?

[Sville]

yea was only one under 320..sorry I think that is hyperbole at it's finest unless I see a roster from that time

K I found the article in my scrap book. The article said the '94 Sville OL avg size was bigger than every D1 college in TX and 5 NFL teams that year.

LT- Travis McKinney 6'4 265
LG- Corey Huffman 6'3 285
C- Colby Pack 6'3 245
RG- Shaylor Pryor 6'4 275
RT- Curtis Lowery 6'5 315

For an avg of 6'3.5 277 all 5 received college offers

[Ville-D]

K I found the article in my scrap book. The article said the '94 Sville OL avg size was bigger than every D1 college in TX and 5 NFL teams that year.

LT- Travis McKinney 6'4 265
LG- Corey Huffman 6'3 285
C- Colby Pack 6'3 245
RG- Shaylor Pryor 6'4 275
RT- Curtis Lowery 6'5 315

For an avg of 6'3.5 277 all 5 received college offers

Shaylor was a beast. RIP

[hollywood]

K I found the article in my scrap book. The article said the '94 Sville OL avg size was bigger than every D1 college in TX and 5 NFL teams that year.

LT- Travis McKinney 6'4 265
LG- Corey Huffman 6'3 285
C- Colby Pack 6'3 245
RG- Shaylor Pryor 6'4 275
RT- Curtis Lowery 6'5 315

For an avg of 6'3.5 277 all 5 received college offers

That's just freakish for HS football! I remember the 93 SC game at DKR. When the team was making their way back to the field under the concrete stadium and the can fans were in full effect, the OL were leading the team back out... :eek: OMG. They were giants. I'm 6 ft 190 lbs and I looked like a midget next to these guys.

Another :eek: moment... Lowery and one of his buddies who played OL for UT were down with us one Marti Gras in Austin a few years back... they parted the seas for us through 6th street. Lets just say we got a lot of attention. :D

[hollywood]

Shaylor was a beast. RIP

Yep, I agree. RIP

[Deuce]

Shaylor was a beast. RIP

Damn, what happened to him? I remember him from when I lived in Stephenville.

[Sville]

Damn, what happened to him? I remember him from when I lived in Stephenville.

He passed away his soph or jr year at Iowa during the summer. He was found in his hotel room after attending a tattoo conference. He went to sleep on his back after being very intoxicated and asphyxiated on his vomit during his sleep according to ME report, if I remember correctly.

[Saggy Aggie]

Cuero was good, no doubt, but better? Unh Unh... If not for the three turnovers in the first half, I think Gilmer would've won by at least two TDs, in my opinion. Gilmer was not going to lose that night, because Stump was going to make sure of it.

Good point. Stump was amazing, but don't forget you won that game with Cuero on the Gilmer 1 yd line...

[Deuce]

He passed away his soph or jr year at Iowa during the summer. He was found in his hotel room after attending a tattoo conference. He went to sleep on his back after being very intoxicated and asphyxiated on his vomit during his sleep according to ME report, if I remember correctly.

Sad deal. He was a good guy!

[Saggy Aggie]

Remember, thread title is 3A teams you have seen play. ;)

Well, yes... But most people who saw 09 Gilmer most likely saw 09 Cuero too... If not, they missed one of the best semifinal games ever. In fact, the state championship was played that night, because Wylie had no chance the next week against either of them

[hollywood]

Well, yes... But most people who saw 09 Gilmer most likely saw 09 Cuero too... If not, they missed one of the best semifinal games ever. In fact, the state championship was played that night, because Wylie had no chance the next week against either of them

I heard about that game. I think I remember listening to it online? Was that the game where it was pretty cold and rainy?

[waterboy]

Good point. Stump was amazing, but don't forget you won that game with Cuero on the Gilmer 1 yd line...

True dat. That's what makes that game an instant classic! I hated to see either team lose that one, but I'm glad the Buckeyes came out on top.

[TXfootballboi!]

I could make a case for the 2011 alvarado Indians! Number 1 defense and number 6 offense in 3a and one of the top defenses in the state that year.

[BJ Walters]

Didint yall lose to Fairified that year too?

We did...we were 5-0, were gonna play Gatesville but Hurricane Rita cancelled it the week before our bye...went w/o a game for 3 weeks and lost 17-7. Fairfield beat our O-line up pretty badly that night

[db1980]

2008 Carthage was far and away better than the 2010 team. And yes, the '10 Carthage team was better than Brownwood. Hunter Holland ran for 308 yds on Brownwood.

[ctown81]

I agree. I think both teams didn't play well at all that night. I couldn't believe they went for the fake. They should have just lined up and went for two. No one believed they were going to kick it.

[ctown81]

I agree 100 percent 2008 carthage was better than the 2010 team

[Old Tiger]

Jaxon PI call was correct, he basically tackled the defender.