Cowboys vs Broncos

[Roughneck93]

I'm taking Denver...

38-17.

[Saggy Aggie]

Pies are not gonna win this one

[regaleagle]

My brother just came up with another beauty....he says the Cowboys come out like hot dogs but burn on the grill by the 2nd half, lol.

[Roughneck93]

Nice start.

[defense51]

Good start for the Cowboys, the footwork by Dez in the endzone was impressive!!

[defense51]

Can you say scramble!

[Txbroadcaster]

wow what a play

[Roughneck93]

:clap:

[Roughneck93]

That was fast...

[regaleagle]

I can smell them hot dogs starting to overcook already.

[Roughneck93]

Damn, we need TDs...

[YTBulldogs]

Setting up for a classic Cowboy 4th quarter loss again. Should be exciting to see how it happens this time.

[Txbroadcaster]

Dallas D 3 penalties..10 plays and given up 5 plays over 20 already

[Roughneck93]

:foul:

[Txbroadcaster]

Denver just makes it too easy

[Roughneck93]

Can you say scramble!


http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/tony-romo-showing-off-some-moves-against-denver.gif

[Roughneck93]

Here we go...

[Roughneck93]

Penalties...

[YTBulldogs]

Candy. Knife through butter. Pitiful.

[Roughneck93]

:dispntd:

[regaleagle]

Well I just checked the hot dogs, and guess what....they've already burned and it ain't even halftime yet, lol.

[Txbroadcaster]

Dallas Oline is just so bad..I do not understand why Jones thinks the Oline is ok

[Roughneck93]

It's over.

[Roughneck93]

Manning's first rushing TD in five years. Faked everyone out...

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/peyton-manning-is-now-just-messing-with-people.gif

[defense51]

I don't think there is a DC in the NFL who would've expected Peyton to run on the last touchdown.

[99IHSMustang]

I don't think there is a DC in the NFL who would've expected Peyton to run on the last touchdown.

That is why they did it.

[99IHSMustang]

Peyton is one hell of a QB. wow.

[Roughneck93]

Ate up nearly half the third quarter too.

[hookandladder]

Manning and the Broncos putting on a clinic for Romo and the Cowboys, Manning is so good this year it may be the best he has ever played. Manning scores TD's , that is the biggest difference.

[defense51]

Bam!!!

[Roughneck93]

Wow...there we go!

[orange machine]

The Bronco's center is offsides every dang snap!

[defense51]

Holding Denver to a FG is a step in the right direction.

[Saggy Aggie]

I wanna see FF blame romo for this one....

[Roughneck93]

Chipping away...

[defense51]

Cowboys D with a huge play!

[Roughneck93]

Nice!

[Saggy Aggie]

Lol decker didn't even try

[Roughneck93]

Wow, missed call right there.

[Roughneck93]

nm, didn't matter.

:clap:

[Saggy Aggie]

Romo >>>>

[Macarthur]

I wanna see FF blame romo for this one....

He'll hammer him for the missed 2pt conversion. :)

[Saggy Aggie]

Watch romo throw a pick when he has a chance to go up 7

[Roughneck93]

Damn penalties.

[Roughneck93]

Lol, wow...

[Saggy Aggie]

Romo has to play like this every game of his career for FF to think romo isn't the antichrist

[regaleagle]

But Romo still hits Dez for a huge 90 yarder....and no flags on this one.

[Roughneck93]

Awesome!

[Saggy Aggie]

I'm gonna laugh when the cowboys still lose and ff comes on here to blame romo

[regaleagle]

That tough little out from the former Prosper player my son used to hafta cover, Cole Beasley, has done well for himself. I'm very happy for him.

[defense51]

Romo over 500 yards passing :1omg!:

[Roughneck93]

Well here we go Romo.

Just need a FG.

[regaleagle]

Manning the machine just eats up defenses like a Sunday afternoon snack, lol

[99IHSMustang]

I'm gonna laugh when the cowboys still lose and ff comes on here to blame romo

You called it Saggy Aggie

[Roughneck93]

Of course...

lol...

[FB-fanatic]

Pick!

[Saggy Aggie]

Lol and Romo finally showed up

[regaleagle]

First the horsecollar on Romo that wasn't called, then the pass into double coverage for the interception. My son called it Cowboys 101.

[Roughneck93]

His great game gone just like that.

[YTBulldogs]

Setting up for a classic Cowboy 4th quarter loss again. Should be exciting to see how it happens this time.

Told ya. This has to be the best of the the classic collapses though.

[hookandladder]

It is the 4th quarter , Romo is still winning in the stats.

[Txbroadcaster]

Told ya. This has to be the best of the the classic collapses though.

Dallas was down 35-20

[orange machine]

Lets them score

[regaleagle]

My brother says the Cowboys should dock big money from Romo's contract for every bad play he makes this season that directly causes a loss. Not a bad idea.

[Saggy Aggie]

To be fair, that was a beast defensive play

But cue FF anyways

[Saggy Aggie]

Dallas was down 35-20

They were also up 48-41...

[Roughneck93]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/85e52952104f6e7085073ce433e21c7f.gif

[99IHSMustang]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/85e52952104f6e7085073ce433e21c7f.gif


I like it.

[hookandladder]

Great game to watch but sad that Romo just cannot make the plays at the end when the game is on the line, look on the bright side -Candice did look good.

[orange machine]

Romo may have thrown the pic, but the defense has to make stops!

[bobcat1]

This just in.... Denver names Romo team MVP

[Txbroadcaster]

This just in.... Denver names Romo team MVP

this just in..without Romo Dallas loses by 4 TDs today

[Tin Cup]

I hate hearing 1 play can't cost you the game. Yes it can. It just did. It's not about being perfect. It's about not making catastrophic mistakes like that one. You can play incredible for 99% of a game but if that mistake happens in the final minute you can't overcome it.

And I'm not into moral victories either. That one sucked.

[Txbroadcaster]

I hate hearing 1 play can't cost you the game. Yes it can. It just did. It's not about being perfect. It's about not making catastrophic mistakes like that one. You can play incredible for 99% of a game but if that mistake happens in the final minute you can't overcome it.

And I'm not into moral victories either. That one sucked.


yes it does suck..but I cant even fathom someone saying that play cost the game when Dallas D gave up 51 points

[99IHSMustang]

this just in..without Romo Dallas loses by 4 TDs today

That is more than likely true, but a loss is a loss. Whether by 4 TDS or 1 point. It just happens that it ended in typical Romo fashion.

[Roughneck93]

I hate hearing 1 play can't cost you the game. Yes it can. It just did. It's not about being perfect. It's about not making catastrophic mistakes like that one. You can play incredible for 99% of a game but if that mistake happens in the final minute you can't overcome it.

And I'm not into moral victories either. That one sucked.

Yes sir, I agree.

Romo is a fantasy football champion.

[Macarthur]

@SI_PeterKing: RT @PriscoCBS: If you rip Romo, you are an idiot ... Amen.

[cookiemonster]

Romo played well and gave his team a chance to win!! That interception at the end was a great diving play by the LB and was basically the game winner not the game loser by Romo!!

[Tin Cup]

I'm not a Romo hater. I actually really like him. But if you didn't say "oh boy here he goes again" you are lying to yourself.

The greats are measured by what they do when the game is on the line. Not what they do the first 58 minutes. It's a cruel position in that regard. Like being a kicker.

[Txbroadcaster]

I'm not a Romo hater. I actually really like him. But if you didn't say "oh boy here he goes again" you are lying to yourself.

The greats are measured by what they do when the game is on the line. Not what they do the first 58 minutes. It's a cruel position in that regard. Like being a kicker.


i can agree in a 21-17 game to an extent..but when you lead your teams to 48 points I just cant see how you blame someone for one throw

[Gone Fishing]

I have never and I mean never thought Romo was a good qb in the NFL. I am not a cowgirl fan so my opinion really doesn't count, BUT 31 out of 32 qbs in the NFL would have checked down to the running back who was standing there by himself..... it was 2nd down and 16 , Romo lover's don't lose fact of that. I'm I a die hard Oiler fan from the past and now I have to deal with Schaub tonight as a big Texan fan. good luck Cowboy fans, we may have the same problem, but Jones should have known it somewhere around 8 years ago..lol

[Roughneck93]

Poor decision...

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/romo-interception-against-broncos.gif

[Roughneck93]

I have never and I mean never thought Romo was a good qb in the NFL. I am not a cowgirl fan so my opinion really doesn't count, BUT 31 out of 32 qbs in the NFL would have checked down to the running back who was standing there by himself..... it was 2nd down and 16 , Romo lover's don't lose fact of that. I'm I a die hard Oiler fan from the past and now I have to deal with Schaub tonight as a big Texan fan. good luck Cowboy fans, we may have the same problem, but Jones should have known it somewhere around 8 years ago..lol

Exactly...check down to Murray

[cougartino]

I had 3 keys for the Cowboys to win 35-21. (1)Harass and hit Manning (2)Be physical with their WR's (3)Run Murray often and always. Well, the first quarter, we Murray ran and ran. And the result? Cowboys dominated the time of possession, had a lead, and kept Manning on the sidelines. So, why the hell did we stop? And the result? 28-17 Broncos at the half. And when we tied with 2:38 left, what did we do? Rather than run the regular offense and get in position for a game winning field goal, we put it in Tony's hands. The result? INT, Broncos put themselves in position for the game winning field goal. We only briefly did 2 of the 3. Why didn't the defense just let the Broncos score and give us time to tie? Bad coaching. Why didn't we keep feeding Murray? Bad coaching. And by the way, we didn't stop using Murray because we were down. We were down because we stopped using Murray. The Cowboys were in position to win this game. So why didn't we win? Bad coaching. And why the hell was the red headed ho smiling after the game? Landry, Johnson, Parcells, and even Staubach wouldn't have been smiling after giving a game away? Let's face it. This team might win the NFC East. Might! So what? It will get rolled by Brees or Rogers (like it will in the regular season). Our defense couldn't cover turds down the drain.

[Txbroadcaster]

again..the defense gave up 51 points.......51!!!!!

[lostaussie]

again..the defense gave up 51 points.......51!!!!!:thumbsup:

[Mojo84]

You should always throw the ball over the head of a wide open receiver to the receiver that has three defenders around him. Even less of a Romo fan after today.

[Tin Cup]

The D is terrible. That doesn't change the fact that Romo has the "unluckiest timing" of any QB in NFL history.

Sometimes games turn into shoot outs and you have to out score your opponent. I didn't think we would keep Manning in check and neither did anyone else who knows and respects his talent.

[Txbroadcaster]

You should always throw the ball over the head of a wide open receiver to the receiver that has three defenders around him. Even less of a Romo fan after today.

yea because how dare he give up 51 points


Again....the D gave up 51 points and yet..Dallas was in the game...oh and Dallas rushed for all of 52 yards..so basically the game was put in Romo's lap and he has to be perfect...so 506 yds 5 Tds and 1 int was not perfect...but screw it..let's blame him over everything else

[Eagle 1]

I see nothing has changed around here. The Romosexuals are still defending him. Despite how much the defense gave up today, if romo leads the offense down the field and the cowboys win the game, then the debate is a moot point. Like numerous times before that didn't happen. Is anybody really surprised? Why romo hasn't got his ass beat in the locker room is beyond me. SMDH

[Macarthur]

Romo is the Rorschach test of football.

[Saggy Aggie]

That wasn't even that bad of a play by romo... The dude made a diving interception. Beast defensive play. I dont even blame romo.

[Txbroadcaster]

That wasn't even that bad of a play by romo... The dude made a diving interception. Beast defensive play. I dont even blame romo.

no no no you have to blame Romo because his D gave up 51 points...again 51 frigging point...also Romo only threw 5 Tds and 506 yds

[Eagle 1]

That wasn't even that bad of a play by romo... The dude made a diving interception. Beast defensive play. I dont even blame romo.. You should really get HD tv.

[Old Tiger]

again..the defense gave up 51 points.......51!!!!!

To be fair the Broncos were averaging over 40 points a game regardless of opponent.


This game epitomizes Romo's career. Can be all world but once it is crunch time he cannot and has not shown the ability to get the job done with it matters most.

[Tin Cup]

Our D gave up 48 points that has us right there with a chance. The Romo int was the 3 and the difference. Our D was just good enough to win if we drive down and score. The fact that this thread is déjà vu is all that matters

[Saggy Aggie]

. You should really get HD tv.

The guy made an incredible diving catch... Yes romo tried to force it... But c'mon man... It took a hell of a defensive play to get that int.

[Tin Cup]

Old T nailed it.

[Macarthur]

To be fair the Broncos were averaging over 40 points a game regardless of opponent.


This game epitomizes Romo's career. Can be all world but once it is crunch time he cannot and has not shown the ability to get the job done with it matters most.

But that is factually incorrect. You are wrong.

[Roughneck93]

Well, Denver did come into today's game averaging 44.8 points per.

Did anyone really think Dallas would hold them below that?

Romo had his chance to break some bad habits.

Edit...beat me to it OT.

[Old Tiger]

But that is factually incorrect. You are wrong.

which part?

[Eagle 1]

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579149_4845688440415_458289458_n.jpg

[hookandladder]

To be fair the Broncos were averaging over 40 points a game regardless of opponent.


This game epitomizes Romo's career. Can be all world but once it is crunch time he cannot and has not shown the ability to get the job done with it matters most.

And That's the rest of the story , Paul Harvey.

[Macarthur]

which part?

Romo is 6th among active QBs in 4th quarter come backs. Hes also the highest rated QB in nfl HISTORY in the 4th quarter. Look it up, genius.

[Saggy Aggie]

I don't even like romo or the cowboys, but you guys are trying way too hard to blame him for this one

[Saggy Aggie]

Romo is 6th among active QBs in 4th quarter come backs. Hes also the highest rated QB in nfl HISTORY in the 4th quarter. Look it up, genius.

:1omg!::1omg!::eek:

[Macarthur]

@SI_PeterKing: RT @PriscoCBS: If you rip Romo, you are an idiot ... Amen......

[Macarthur]

:1omg!::1omg!::eek:

Its true. It doesn't dampen the sting of this loss, but it does illustrate how the National narrative about Romo is not really reality.

[Eagle 1]

Romo is 6th among active QBs in 4th quarter come backs. Hes also the highest rated QB in nfl HISTORY in the 4th quarter. Look it up, genius.

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.

As usual, you don't deal in facts.

[Eagle 1]

As usual, you don't deal in facts.

As usual you avoided the question.

[Deuce]

This thread just goes to show you how most people on this forum have no clue what's going on in a football game. This game is all on the defense! If u take Romo's stat line and put that pick in the 1st qtr rather than the 4th, everyone would blame the D. Some of you guys are absolutely clueless about football. No idea why y'all spend so much time on this forum.

[Old Tiger]

Romo is 6th among active QBs in 4th quarter come backs. Hes also the highest rated QB in nfl HISTORY in the 4th quarter. Look it up, genius.

Are you using QBR, you know the made up statistic by ESPN?


How many play scenario, big game, or win or your in games have Romo blown?

[Old Tiger]

This thread just goes to show you how most people on this forum have no clue what's going on in a football game. This game is all on the defense! If u take Romo's stat line and put that pick in the 1st qtr rather than the 4th, everyone would blame the D. Some of you guys are absolutely clueless about football. No idea why y'all spend so much time on this forum.If it was a blowout I would agree. But because both teams were scoring at will the same could be said for Denver but the thing is Denver didn't turn it over late in the game.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


As usual you avoided the question.

Nope sure didn't. I don't have to go look up stats when you make a request. If you have a legit point other than just diarrhea of the mouth, you need to do your own research.

I made a point and all you could do is mindless drivel.

[Eagle 1]

This thread just goes to show you how most people on this forum have no clue what's going on in a football game. This game is all on the defense! If u take Romo's stat line and put that pick in the 1st qtr rather than the 4th, everyone would blame the D. Some of you guys are absolutely clueless about football. No idea why y'all spend so much time on this forum.

I totally agree defense wins championships, but......Romo loses games. That is a fact.

[Eagle 1]

Nope sure didn't. I don't have to go look up stats when you make a request. If you have a legit point other than just diarrhea of the mouth, you need to do your own research.

I made a point and all you could do is mindless drivel.

LOL....really that's your come back?

[hookandladder]

This thread just goes to show you how most people on this forum have no clue what's going on in a football game. This game is all on the defense! If u take Romo's stat line and put that pick in the 1st qtr rather than the 4th, everyone would blame the D. Some of you guys are absolutely clueless about football. No idea why y'all spend so much time on this forum.

The problem with this , you can't put the pick in the first quarter. The picks are normally when the game is on the line, if he was not being paid to win games then yes you are correct but that is not the case.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


Are you using QBR, you know the made up statistic by ESPN?


How many play scenario, big game, or win or your in games have Romo blown?

First, what language are you speaking?

2nd - have no idea. Look it up and let us know. Of course, it's always so much easier to just say 'Romo sucks!'

[Eagle 1]

Are you using QBR, you know the made up statistic by ESPN?


How many play scenario, big game, or win or your in games have Romo blown?

1. Yes
2. Lost count.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been aroud longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


LOL....really that's your come back?

Yes, it is genius. Why don't you stop asking people to go look up stuff to support your position and do it yourself.

[Eagle 1]

Yes, it is genius. Why don't you stop asking people to go look up stuff to support your position and do it yourself.


LOL.... I don't have to look it up to know I made a fool out of your "active QB's" statement.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


LOL.... I don't have to look it up to know I made a fool out of your "active QB's" statement.

You actually think you've made a fool of anyone on this thread other than yourself?

[Tin Cup]

I wish he wouldn't have thrown that int. He was better and went toe to toe with PManning and he needed the confidence boost. Instead he's at home kicking himself for that throw. I have no doubt he wants the ball in his hands at the end of games, but so does the opponent bc there is a pretty decent chance of him crippling the team with a late or bad throw that ends up like today.

[Eagle 1]

You actually think you've made a fool of anyone on this thread other than yourself?

How so? I asked you a question in which you were to embarrassed to admit Romo ranks 37th in comebacks before today, which consequently made your point moot among active qb's.
That number will probably drop after today.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


How so? I asked you a question in which you were to embarrassed to admit Romo ranks 37th in comebacks before today, which consequently made your point moot among active qb's.
That number will probably drop after today.

What are you talking about?

I'm not embarrassed by anything. What stat are you referencing. Please provide more than snarkiness.

At first blush, I have no idea if 37 is good or bad.

[Txbroadcaster]

I will win this debate....the defense gave up 51 points...unless there were 5 int's returned for Tds at the end of the day..the defense gave up 51 points....if someone blames anyone but the d i will say it again...the defense gave up 51 points

[Eagle 1]

What are you talking about?

I'm not embarrassed by anything. What stat are you referencing. Please provide more than snarkiness.

At first blush, I have no idea if 37 is good or bad.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm

[Eagle 1]

I will win this debate....the defense gave up 51 points...unless there were 5 int's returned for Tds at the end of the day..the defense gave up 51 points....if someone blames anyone but the d i will say it again...the defense gave up 51 points

Nobody is arguing that the defense didn't suck. LOL...

[Saggy Aggie]

I will win this debate....the defense gave up 51 points...unless there were 5 int's returned for Tds at the end of the day..the defense gave up 51 points....if someone blames anyone but the d i will say it again...the defense gave up 51 points

I honestly see both sides of the spectrum. I see the grand scheme of things like you, but I also see that all other things aside, romo throws an int in a tie game with 2 mins left. That guarantees a loss 9 times out if 10

[Tin Cup]

If this game was 0-0 and romo threw that int in that moment, would you then blame him?

The score was tied no matter how low or high. It could've been 100 to 100 but romo did what romo does. People don't care he was the reason we were in the game, they care he threw the pass that single handily ended it.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm

Sorry, but that chart doesn't prove what you think it does.

Hes ahead of Aikman and only 3 behind the great Eli and brees who have 3 and 5 years more than he does as a starter.

Try again.

[Txbroadcaster]

If this game was 0-0 and romo threw that int in that moment, would you then blame him?

The score was tied no matter how low or high. It could've been 100 to 100 but romo did what romo does. People don't care he was the reason we were in the game, they care he threw the pass that single handily ended it.

That is just it...The D could have made a play and forced to the Broncos to kick a FG with enough time to give Dallas a chance..but they did not...but somehow people are going to blame Romo after he CARRIED the team...I just do not get it

[cougartino]

Tell you what if Washington rolls us next week, and factoring in playing Brees and Rogers, that's 6 losses. And we still need to go on the road during cold weather for our division games. Season's not over but the road just got harder.

[Saggy Aggie]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_career.htm

I don't understand your point? Every guy on that list has played longer than Romo.... So naturally they would have more comeback wins...

All this link proves is romo has been as clutch as anyone that has ever played in a 9 year span... I think you destroyed your own point...

[Old Tiger]

That is just it...The D could have made a play and forced to the Broncos to kick a FG with enough time to give Dallas a chance..but they did not...but somehow people are going to blame Romo after he CARRIED the team...I just do not get it

I think they should have let them score.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


I don't understand your point? Every guy on that list has played longer than Romo.... So naturally they would have more comeback wins...

All this link proves is room has been as clutch as anyone that has ever played in av9 year span... I think you destroyed your own point...

Thank you.

[Old Tiger]

Tony Romo = Danny White

[Txbroadcaster]

I think they should have let them score.

i thought the same thing as it was happening

[Eagle 1]

I don't understand your point? Every guy on that list has played longer than Romo.... So naturally they would have more comeback wins...

All this link proves is romo has been as clutch as anyone that has ever played in a 9 year span... I think you destroyed your own point...

Actually Eli and "Big Ben" started in 2004. Check it again. It does prove my point. The longer you play, the more comeback wins you will have.
If anybody has a better link then post it.

[Eagle 1]

Tony Romo = Danny White

Exactly. The problem is not many of us are old enough to understand that. Those who don't agree were probably not even born when Danny played.

[Eagle 1]

Sorry, but that chart doesn't prove what you think it does.

Hes ahead of Aikman and only 3 behind the great Eli and brees who have 3 and 5 years more than he does as a starter.

Try again.

Your link?

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


Actually Eli and "Big Ben" started in 2004. Check it again. It does prove my point. The longer you play, the more comeback wins you will have.
If anybody has a better link then post it.

Dude, you don't get it. You got owned by your own post. Lol.

[Macarthur]

The only reason he is 6th among active QB's is because he has been around longer than most active QB's. Where does he rank all time in come backs among ALL QB's active or non active?
Yep, and he is number one when it comes to choking and losing the game.


Your link?

Hey, genius, it's your own link!

Wow

[Eagle 1]

Dude, you don't get it. You got owned by your own post. Lol.

Not really.
Your link?

[Macarthur]

Tony Romo = Danny White

Whats wrong w Danny white?

[Txbroadcaster]

Exactly. The problem is not many of us are old enough to understand that. Those who don't agree were probably not even born when Danny played.

I am old enough..and both were good QBs who were blamed for stuff they could not control..for White he was taking an aging flawed team to NFC title games..for Romo he is taken a simply flawed team as far as he could...yet both have gotten blame or are now blamed

it amazes me that a QB could throw for 506 yards 5 Tds and 1 int yet people are trying to say he is the reason they lost

[Saggy Aggie]

Actually Eli and "Big Ben" started in 2004. Check it again. It does prove my point. The longer you play, the more comeback wins you will have.
If anybody has a better link then post it.

You realize romo wasn't the starter until 2006, don't you?

7 seasons... Not 9. C'mon man... I know you're trying hard, but it's not working.

[Eagle 1]

I am old enough..and both were good QBs who were blamed for stuff they could not control..for White he was taking an aging flawed team to NFC title games..for Romo he is taken a simply flawed team as far as he could...yet both have gotten blame or are now blamed

it amazes me that a QB could throw for 506 yards 5 Tds and 1 int yet people are trying to say he is the reason they lost

It's the fact he threw the interception when the game was on the line. It's not that hard to understand, no matter how good he is, he still chokes when the game is on the line, as did Danny.

[Eagle 1]

You realize romo wasn't the starter until 2006, don't you?

7 seasons... Not 9. C'mon man... I know you're trying hard, but it's not working.

So you have a better link then the one I referenced?

[Tin Cup]

The QB gets too much credit and too much blame. That is and always will be the position. Murray's hold killed a big play but no one talks about that 1 play. The INT was the one and only play that gave Denver the ball in FG range before Manning trotted back out. I don't like it any more than you TXB.

[Eagle 1]

The QB gets too much credit and too much blame. That is and always will be the position. Murray's hold killed a big play but no one talks about that 1 play. The INT was the one and only play that gave Denver the ball in FG range before Manning trotted back out. I don't like it any more than you TXB.

If that interception happened in the first qtr, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Romo is the only qb in the league who can break team records and still manage to lose the game. I'll give him that.

[Txbroadcaster]

It's the fact he threw the interception when the game was on the line. It's not that hard to understand, no matter how good he is, he still chokes when the game is on the line, as did Danny.


because people like you think QB's are only ones that decides games...again 51 POINTS

[Saggy Aggie]

So you have a better link then the one I referenced?

No, but I'm telling you that the link you provided doesn't prove anything. In fact, it helps the guy you're arguing with LOL

[Old Tiger]

because people like you think QB's are only ones that decides games...again 51 POINTS

Tied game so points given up doesn't matter in that situation.

[Eagle 1]

because people like you think QB's are only ones that decides games...again 51 POINTS

Like I said, I'm not arguing that the defense didn't suck today.
Romo made it easy for the Broncos.
Flat, plain, and simple.

[Txbroadcaster]

Tied game so points given up doesn't matter in that situation.

sorry i dont buy that...at that point of the game a QB has carried the team...if Dallas had 300 yards rushing I could see a point..but again 506 yards 5 TDs..and even with that int if the Dallas D would have forced a 3 and out then they still have a chance, but they did not

[Eagle 1]

No, but I'm telling you that the link you provided doesn't prove anything. In fact, it helps the guy you're arguing with LOL

How so? Mac said " Romo ranks 6th among active qb's" in his previous post.....like that means something. I proved it didn't.

[Eagle 1]

sorry i dont buy that...at that point of the game a QB has carried the team...if Dallas had 300 yards rushing I could see a point..but again 506 yards 5 TDs..and even with that int if the Dallas D would have forced a 3 and out then they still have a chance, but they did not

How many turnovers did the Dallas defense have today?

[Macarthur]

How so? Mac said " Romo ranks 6th among active qb's" in his previous post.....like that means something. I proved it didn't.

Wow. You really are lost.

[Txbroadcaster]

again 506 yds 5 TDs 1 int...and lost...I am sorry but if your blaming the QB for that loss then you have a very narrow view of football

[Eagle 1]

Wow. You really are lost.

Nope. Do you have a link that ranks Romo comeback wins higher than 37 all time?

[Saggy Aggie]

How so? Mac said " Romo ranks 6th among active qb's" in his previous post.....like that means something. I proved it didn't.

Yeah, only behind a couple of the best qbs that ever played and 2 other guys that have won 2 supper bowls each... ALL of them playing ATLEAST 2 years more than romo. The fact that he's ahead of everyone else that's active, says a lot. Being 6th active and 37th overall in 7 years is incredible. Basically proving that romo has in fact been extremely clutch.

[Eagle 1]

again 506 yds 5 TDs 1 int...and lost...I am sorry but if your blaming the QB for that loss then you have a very narrow view of football

Dallas defense had 1 interception, and 1 forced fumble recovery.
Like I said, if Romo throws the interception in the first qtr, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The fact that you are in denial doesn't change the outcome of the game. I know the defense stunk today.

[Saggy Aggie]

Nope. Do you have a link that ranks Romo comeback wins higher than 37 all time?

Dude you're even more dense that FF....

That link proves that he's the most clutch player ever in the history if the NFL over a 7 year period.... Lmao

[Eagle 1]

Yeah, only behind a couple of the best qbs that ever played and 2 other guys that have won 2 supper bowls each... ALL of them playing ATLEAST 2 years more than romo. The fact that he's ahead of everyone else that's active, says a lot. Being 6th active and 37th overall in 7 years is incredible. Basically proving that romo has in fact been extremely clutch.

Still ranks 37th all time.

[bobcat1]

I am old enough..and both were good QBs who were blamed for stuff they could not control..for White he was taking an aging flawed team to NFC title games..for Romo he is taken a simply flawed team as far as he could...yet both have gotten blame or are now blamed

it amazes me that a QB could throw for 506 yards 5 Tds and 1 int yet people are trying to say he is the reason they lostDude, it's because of when he throws them. It's always for the game loser. Check his career.

[Eagle 1]

Dude, it's because of when he throws them. It's always for the game loser. Check his career.

I bet he is number one in the choking stat....if there was one. LOL.

[Txbroadcaster]

Dallas defense had 1 interception, and 1 forced fumble recovery.
Like I said, if Romo throws the interception in the first qtr, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The fact that you are in denial doesn't change the outcome of the game. I know the defense stunk today.

the fact AFTER he had thrown for 506 yards 5 Tds yet still needed to be perfect is my exact point...NO QB could be that good and yet still have to again be perfect for his team not to lose

[Saggy Aggie]

Still ranks 37th all time.

Lol farmersfan junior right here. DENSE

[bobcat1]

Yeah, only behind a couple of the best qbs that ever played and 2 other guys that have won 2 supper bowls each... ALL of them playing ATLEAST 2 years more than romo. The fact that he's ahead of everyone else that's active, says a lot. Being 6th active and 37th overall in 7 years is incredible. Basically proving that romo has in fact been extremely clutch.

Clutch? Against who? Certainly not in big games like the one today.

[Txbroadcaster]

Dude, it's because of when he throws them. It's always for the game loser. Check his career.

yea check his career..he carries a team and when the team fails him it is his fault

[Saggy Aggie]

Clutch? Against who? Certainly not in big games like the one today.

I'm just saying, over a 7 year period, no one has had more comeback wins. Not saying he doesn't have as many or more blown games too

[Tin Cup]

The romo int was thrown in FG range TXB. No 3 and out possibility

[Eagle 1]

the fact AFTER he had thrown for 506 yards 5 Tds yet still needed to be perfect is my exact point...NO QB could be that good and yet still have to again be perfect for his team not to lose

That interception at the end of the game negated the 506 yards and 5 TD's in the win column.
That's all that matters at the end of the day.

[bobcat1]

the fact AFTER he had thrown for 506 yards 5 Tds yet still needed to be perfect is my exact point...NO QB could be that good and yet still have to again be perfect for his team not to lose

I'll agree he was good today but only up to crunch time with the game on the line. He did what he does which is gift wraps the win. He's still Denver's MVP. Good night.

[Txbroadcaster]

The romo int was thrown in FG range TXB. No 3 and out possibility

If Dallas holds to then 3 and out they still have a chance..they had 3 timeouts and used them...again..people expect the QB to be perfect but excuse the D

[Txbroadcaster]

I'll agree he was good today but only up to crunch time with the game on the line. He did what he does which is gift wraps the win. He's still Denver's MVP. Good night.

yea cause that D only gave up 48 points to that moment..smh

[bobcat1]

yea cause that D only gave up 48 points to that moment..smh

So did theirs but you didn't see Manning give it back to Dallas did you?

[Eagle 1]

If Dallas holds to then 3 and out they still have a chance..they had 3 timeouts and used them...again..people expect the QB to be perfect but excuse the D

I'm not excusing the defense, I thought I made that clear by now.
However, you are the one excusing Romo when he throws an interception when the game was on the line.......like he has done many times before.
And like you have done many times before.
Great players and coaches only care about one stat.

[Eagle 1]

so did theirs but you didn't see manning give it back to dallas did you?

bingo.

[Txbroadcaster]

So did theirs but you didn't see Manning give it back to Dallas did you?

so your point is,,,because Manning torched a bad D and oh btw a legend in the game Romo should do the same? oh and Romo had a better game against a better D but hey lets forget that point

[Txbroadcaster]

I'm not excusing the defense, I thought I made that clear by now.
However, you are the one excusing Romo when he throws an interception when the game was on the line.......like he has done many times before.
And like you have done many times before.


uhh I have never thrown a INT...ever

[Eagle 1]

uhh I have never thrown a INT...ever

You are excusing Romo for the interception that lost the game. You have done this before. Is that more clear?

[Eagle 1]

so your point is,,,because Manning torched a bad D and oh btw a legend in the game Romo should do the same? oh and Romo had a better game against a better D but hey lets forget that point

Broncos 5-0
Cowboys 2-3

Anymore questions?

[Txbroadcaster]

You are excusing Romo for the interception that lost the game. You have done this before. Is that more clear?

no i am not..I think that may be the disconnect...it was costly..but did not cost the game is all I am saying..you should not have to ask ANY QB who has thrown for 506 yards and 5 Tds in one game to be perfect

[Eagle 1]

no i am not..I think that may be the disconnect...it was costly..but did not cost the game is all I am saying..you should not have to ask ANY QB who has thrown for 506 yards and 5 Tds in one game to be perfect

I'm not asking him to be perfect, just reliable. I will say it again, if the interception happens in the first qtr, then we are not even having this conversation.

[Emerson1]

no i am not..I think that may be the disconnect...it was costly..but did not cost the game is all I am saying..you should not have to ask ANY QB who has thrown for 506 yards and 5 Tds in one game to be perfect

Watch out he might want to come fight you.

[Tin Cup]

Tony you don't have to be perfect. But you need to protect your football at the end of the game. I do want you to be perfect in that regard.

[Eagle 1]

Tony you don't have to be perfect. But you need to protect your football at the end of the game. I do want you to be perfect in that regard.

As would any coach.

[Tejastrue]

I respect you Txb for staying true to Romo. I totally get it. Anybody missing Rob Ryan? Looks to be doing okay in Saints land these days. How can you not put the loss on the defense..Peyton Manning or no Peyton Manning. Cowboys looked absolutely pitiful.

[Macarthur]

@SI_PeterKing: RT @PriscoCBS: If you rip Romo, you are an idiot ... Amen.

....

[GrTigers6]

The romo int was thrown in FG range TXB. No 3 and out possibilityIf the defense would have held them to a field goal then the cowboys would have got the ball back with some time to do the same

[GrTigers6]

All of yall Romo haters have to realize that no QB should ever lose by scoring 48 points. Romo after throwing 506 yards and putting up 48 points should not have to be put in the position that he was in the 4th Qtr. Also why aren't we blaming the offensive line for failing two plays in a row to keep the defense off of Romo during a clutch drive.

[Txbroadcaster]

I respect you Txb for staying true to Romo. I totally get it. Anybody missing Rob Ryan? Looks to be doing okay in Saints land these days. How can you not put the loss on the defense..Peyton Manning or no Peyton Manning. Cowboys looked absolutely pitiful.

Not about staying true to Romo...If there was a better option I am all for it..I just think he is a good QB who again has his flaws, but the flaws of the team are far worse..but in today's football for some reason everything is put on the QB good and bad

[Macarthur]

How does a guy like ware escape criticism?

I'm a ware fan but what exactly did he do? Did he even get a pressure? Against a 2nd string LT?

[Macarthur]

The musers just said the defense has given up 1000 yards and 81 points in two weeks. Wow. This defense has better personel than that.

[Txbroadcaster]

How does a guy like ware escape criticism?

I'm a ware fan but what exactly did he do? Did he even get a pressure? Against a 2nd string LT?

and that is the funny thing...Ware is my fav Cowboy and I agree 1000% he was a non factor

[Deuce]

Lol, Denver did not punt one time yesterday. Yeah, its Romo's fault. Bahaha

[Txbroadcaster]

The musers just said the defense has given up 1000 yards and 81 points in two weeks. Wow. This defense has better personel than that.

Do they?

[Macarthur]

Do they?

I sure thought they did.

[Farmersfan]

no i am not..I think that may be the disconnect...it was costly..but did not cost the game is all I am saying..you should not have to ask ANY QB who has thrown for 506 yards and 5 Tds in one game to be perfect




The disconnect is obviously with you. Peyton Manning was asked to be perfect at the last in order for perhaps the best team in the NFL to get the win over the Cowboys. And he was! The defense for Dallas was really bad yesterday but if so then the defense for the Broncos was even worse. The difference between the two is that Peyton Manning does this every single week regardless of who he plays against. Romo doesn't! You seem to want to give Romo credit for shredding the Broncos for over 500 yards but not give Manning the same credit. But most of all the sad thing about this is that a career game by a guy who has been under the gun his whole career gets overshadowed by the very same type of mistake he has frequently had that created the overshadowing in the first place. For me though the most irritating thing about this kind of game is having to watch Jerry Jones in the interview afterwards GLO and ramble on about Romo's performance when his team ***T away another win.
I'm not as upset about this loss as I was about the KC loss and the SD loss. I expected Peyton to torch the Dallas D. In case you aren't aware of it Peyton has put up these kinds of numbers every week regardless of who he plays against. Only a real moron expected Dallas to even be in the game in the end. I know it falls on deaf ears but what it's worth: Tony Romo cannot turn the ball over in that position in his own end of the field. Period!

[cougartino]

The Cowboys need a guy who when the chips are down, you know he's going to come through. That should be our franchise QB. No, Romo did not give up 51 points. But in spite of that porous display by the defense, we still had an opportunity to win. That's when you need your top guy to get it done. Ours can't. No harm or foul in that. He just can't. Be honest folks. How many of you were thinking to you hope Tony doesn't do anything bad during the last drive? I was. But I was also hoping the Tony who played a perfect game up until then would continue his ways and get the team in FG position. I think that's what frustrates fans the most about Romo. He's been doing this too long and getting paid a lot for us to be worrying which Romo will show up at the critical time.

[Saggy Aggie]

I'm gonna laugh when the cowboys still lose and ff comes on here to blame romo

^^^^^^ lol

[Saggy Aggie]

Watch romo throw a pick when he has a chance to go up 7

^^^^^^ lol

[Saggy Aggie]

I wanna see FF blame romo for this one....

^^^^^^ lol

[GrTigers6]

lets think for a moment that, Say Romo's interception was dropped. and it is 3rd down and 16. Then 4th down and cowboys punt then Peyton drives down and scores beating them anyway and there are no Romo haters trying to say it was his fault. Only one other qb in the history of the NFL has lost after scoring 48 points. That's all that needs to be said. Because of the defense the cowboys were going to lose. Anytime on the clock and Broncos win. Twice in the 4th qtr Romo gives them the lead and twice the defense loses it. one stop and its game over run the clock out drive instead of having to score a 49th point to win the game

[Phil C]

Romo didn't choke. But the Cowboy defense did. Anytime your offense scores 48 points and you lose something is wrong with the defense. Cowboys messed up firing that last DC.

[Txbroadcaster]

I like how Peter King summed it up

It’s not the right day to say Romo’s a bum. We all saw the pass Tony Romo, with 506 passing yards in a 48-48 tie very late in the Denver-Dallas game, threw. And he shouldn’t have thrown it. Denver linebacker Danny Trevathan stepped in front of rookie tight end Gavin Escobar and made an athletic interception at the Dallas 24. Eight plays later, as the clock ran out, Matt Prater kicked the winning 28-yard field goal. It follows the Romo pattern, of course, of throwing the ball to the other team in a vital moment. I have a hard time, though, saying, “Same ol’ Romo,’’ when his line before that throw was 25 of 35 for 506 yards, with five touchdowns and no interceptions; when he’d put up 48 points and the defense had a track meet run on it by Peyton Manning. I’m not absolving him of the error—just saying it’s not fair to rip Romo when he’s played the game of his life, and when Manning made the exact same mistake just a few drives earlier, throwing one to Morris Claiborne in a tense time. My takeaway from this game: There are no great teams in the NFC East; there may not even be one good one. But Dallas should win the division, even if it’s with a 7-9 record.

[D'Highlander]

and that is the funny thing...Ware is my fav Cowboy and I agree 1000% he was a non factor

Ware is playing hurt and credit should be given to Payton. He gets rid of the ball so quick that the d-line had no time to get to him.

[cougartino]

Let's say the score is tied at 24. Your team has the ball at your 15 with 2:25 left. All you need is 3 to win. You're afforded the luxury to go to the sidelines and choose from amongst Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers, Flacco, and Romo.

Who ya picking?

[Txbroadcaster]

Let's say the score is tied at 24. Your team has the ball at your 15 with 2:25 left. All you need is 3 to win. You're afforded the luxury to go to the sidelines and choose from amongst Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers, Flacco, and Romo.

Who ya picking?

good Question..have to think about that

[Farmersfan]

Week #1: 49 points-510 yards
Week #2: 41 points- 414 yards
Week #3: 37 points- 536 yards
Week #4: 52 Points- 472 Yards.
Week #5: 51 points- 517 yards.

Can you see the trend? The Dallas defense is not a great defense. Hell, some people would say they are actually a bad defense. But there are certain facts here that everyone seems to be ignoring. Peyton Manning and the Broncos offense have been putting up these numbers all season. And against some better defenses than Dallas. Giving up 51 points to a team that scores that many points every week isn't the issue. It would be awesome if our defense could do what other defenses have not been able to do but they aren't that good. Besides, The same people putting this loss on the defense was putting it on the defense when they held the opponents to only 17 points and lost. And the same people who blamed the defense for the woes in 09' when the defense was ranked #2 in the entire NFL yet the team couldn't get over the mistakes and inconsistent play by their leader. So everybody needs to stop using what the defense "DIDN'T DO" or what the offensive line "DIDN'T DO" to excuse what was actually DONE...............Ands, Ifs and Buts are nice but in the end we had the game set up for the taking and it was puked up by our #1 puker. And anyone who claims they weren't sitting on the edge of their seat on that last possession because they expected the big mistake from Romo is lying!

[Farmersfan]

Quick Question: On the Broncos last possession ( after the Int) how long do you battle before you just let the Broncos score? It was an automatic certain 3 points to win the game for the Broncos so do you give up the touchdown quickly to give your offense enough time to drive the field for a possible tying score? Or do you fight like the Cowboys did to try to limit them to the FG and risk them running out the time clock? And on the holding call on the Broncos do you decline the penalty to bring up a 3rd and 5 and limit Manning to just 1 play to get the 1st down/touchdown instead of taking the 10 yards and giving Manning 2 chances?

[Txbroadcaster]

Quick Question: On the Broncos last possession ( after the Int) how long do you battle before you just let the Broncos score? It was an automatic certain 3 points to win the game for the Broncos so do you give up the touchdown quickly to give your offense enough time to drive the field for a possible tying score? Or do you fight like the Cowboys did to try to limit them to the FG and risk them running out the time clock? And on the holding call on the Broncos do you decline the penalty to bring up a 3rd and 5 and limit Manning to just 1 play to get the 1st down/touchdown instead of taking the 10 yards and giving Manning 2 chances?


I think you almost have to let them score...and I did not understand the taking the penalty either..But Manning also said he told RBs not to score no matter what

[Emerson1]

http://m.imgur.com/YVZNEhV

[Farmersfan]

I think you almost have to let them score...and I did not understand the taking the penalty either..But Manning also said he told RBs not to score no matter what


Wonder what the onslaught would look like today if the Dallas defense just stepped aside for them to score and the Denver RB simply fell down to down the ball? :o

[Txbroadcaster]

Wonder what the onslaught would look like today if the Dallas defense just stepped aside for them to score and the Denver RB simply fell down to down the ball? :o


dont think there would be much...many were asking should Dallas let them score as it was happening

[GrTigers6]

Week #1: 49 points-510 yards
Week #2: 41 points- 414 yards
Week #3: 37 points- 536 yards
Week #4: 52 Points- 472 Yards.
Week #5: 51 points- 517 yards.

Can you see the trend? The Dallas defense is not a great defense. Hell, some people would say they are actually a bad defense. But there are certain facts here that everyone seems to be ignoring. Peyton Manning and the Broncos offense have been putting up these numbers all season. And against some better defenses than Dallas. Giving up 51 points to a team that scores that many points every week isn't the issue. It would be awesome if our defense could do what other defenses have not been able to do but they aren't that good. Besides, The same people putting this loss on the defense was putting it on the defense when they held the opponents to only 17 points and lost. And the same people who blamed the defense for the woes in 09' when the defense was ranked #2 in the entire NFL yet the team couldn't get over the mistakes and inconsistent play by their leader. So everybody needs to stop using what the defense "DIDN'T DO" or what the offensive line "DIDN'T DO" to excuse what was actually DONE...............Ands, Ifs and Buts are nice but in the end we had the game set up for the taking and it was puked up by our #1 puker. And anyone who claims they weren't sitting on the edge of their seat on that last possession because they expected the big mistake from Romo is lying!

This is the worst attempt I have ever seen you make to defend the defense. I don't care if the Broncos scored an average 100 points a game. 51 is never acceptable. And the fact that it is to you just shows that you are jealous of Romo :D or something even deeper to make you think that the defense is excused because the broncos are that good.
Romo made a mistake there is no question about that but so did peyton which led to the cowboys taking the lead but no one is talking about that because its peyton. And again the defense twice in the 4th qtr gave up TD drives after the offense retakes the lead. That is unacceptable

[GrTigers6]

dont think there would be much...many were asking should Dallas let them score as it was happening

Peyton even said that he told him to get the first down without scoring

[Farmersfan]

This is the worst attempt I have ever seen you make to defend the defense. I don't care if the Broncos scored an average 100 points a game. 51 is never acceptable. And the fact that it is to you just shows that you are jealous of Romo :D or something even deeper to make you think that the defense is excused because the broncos are that good.
Romo made a mistake there is no question about that but so did peyton which led to the cowboys taking the lead but no one is talking about that because its peyton. And again the defense twice in the 4th qtr gave up TD drives after the offense retakes the lead. That is unacceptable


You are still playing the "What-if" game. You could make about 1000 different adjustments to this game using hindsight that would benefit the Cowboys in the end. I'm looking at WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. You know there were several drops by the receivers in this game that would have made a huge difference! And several penalties that changed the outcome significantly! For both sides! You know on one play that nice looking Red Headed cheerleader also distracted Dez which caused him to not run his route correctly? The problem with this kind of thinking is it never addresses the reality of the situation. In the end after all the dust settles and we look back at this game it came down to the last possession for the Cowboys. They needed to move the ball and go down the field and score points to win it. At the very least they needed to keep the ball out of Peyton Manning's hands and go into the OT and take their chances. The very WORST thing that could have happened on that possession did happen! And the guy that did it has a history of doing it.. Deserved or not deserved is irrelevant at this point. A 3 and out with a punt would not have been Romo's fault. A handoff to the RB who fumbles would not have been Romo's fault! The only thing that Romo could have done that would have been his fault in this loss was throw a int in his own end of the field. And guess what he did?

[Eagle 1]

Let's say the score is tied at 24. Your team has the ball at your 15 with 2:25 left. All you need is 3 to win. You're afforded the luxury to go to the sidelines and choose from amongst Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers, Flacco, and Romo.

Who ya picking?
Any of them but Romo.

Ok riddle me this.
What will Romo be most remembered for by any NFL fan?
A. A come from behind qb.
B. A choking qb when the game is on the line.

Honestly we all know the answer.

[Macarthur]

Week #1: 49 points-510 yards
Week #2: 41 points- 414 yards
Week #3: 37 points- 536 yards
Week #4: 52 Points- 472 Yards.
Week #5: 51 points- 517 yards.

Can you see the trend? The Dallas defense is not a great defense. Hell, some people would say they are actually a bad defense. But there are certain facts here that everyone seems to be ignoring. Peyton Manning and the Broncos offense have been putting up these numbers all season. And against some better defenses than Dallas. Giving up 51 points to a team that scores that many points every week isn't the issue. It would be awesome if our defense could do what other defenses have not been able to do but they aren't that good. Besides, The same people putting this loss on the defense was putting it on the defense when they held the opponents to only 17 points and lost. And the same people who blamed the defense for the woes in 09' when the defense was ranked #2 in the entire NFL yet the team couldn't get over the mistakes and inconsistent play by their leader. So everybody needs to stop using what the defense "DIDN'T DO" or what the offensive line "DIDN'T DO" to excuse what was actually DONE...............Ands, Ifs and Buts are nice but in the end we had the game set up for the taking and it was puked up by our #1 puker. And anyone who claims they weren't sitting on the edge of their seat on that last possession because they expected the big mistake from Romo is lying!

Here's the thing, FF. The game started out with dallas owning the football quite a bit. To your point, the Dallas defense gave up 51points and over 500 yards in barely more than 3 quarters. How much would they have given up if the Broncos had the ball more in the first quarter? 60?

And, yes, it was a bad interception by Romo. But when you have to throw all game, you're going to be hard pressed to not have a mistake somewhere. Even the immortal peyton threw a Bad 4th quarter pick. Romo was hurried 15 times and sacked 3 times and escaped another 2 or 3 easy. Peyton had a clean pocket all night. I think each QB had very different levels of difficulty.

And let's not forget the lber made a diving catch with his body parallel with group. Even though it was an ill advised throw, it took a circus catch to make the int.

[slpybear the bullfan]

If you believe ROMO is a choke artist then you will point to yesterday's game as proof.

If you believe ROMO is a great quarterback then you will point to yesterday's game is proof.

The most vocal posters on this thread illustrate this perfectly... just like Dems and Repubs, they are arguing with no willingness to consider another viewpoint. That's called stalemate and just means we will read lots of posts repeating them same stuff.

So let me add to it. Romo played on another level yesterday. Then he forced the pass at the end of the game, (AND stepped into the OL feet tand short stepped his throw) and threw a bad ball. It was a bad decision, he knew it and that was the ballgame. He was one of many Cowboys who you can point to as a reason they lost.

IMHO the Cowboys immediately should have let the Broncos score... especially on that pass play. There was zero chance to get the ball back with any reasonable time on the clock without a quick Denver TD. Anything else was fantasy.

IMHO - Defense? We have no defense. Who from the defense stepped up and made a game changing play? And by game-changing play I mean any that would would force one, just one Denver punt.

Its a crappy loss. I'll chalk that one up as one we were never supposed to win, but turned into a heartbreaker.

[panther89]

This is the worst attempt I have ever seen you make to defend the defense. I don't care if the Broncos scored an average 100 points a game. 51 is never acceptable. And the fact that it is to you just shows that you are jealous of Romo :D or something even deeper to make you think that the defense is excused because the broncos are that good.
Romo made a mistake there is no question about that but so did peyton which led to the cowboys taking the lead but no one is talking about that because its peyton. And again the defense twice in the 4th qtr gave up TD drives after the offense retakes the lead. That is unacceptable

Agree with everything here. Romo threw for 5 touchdowns and over 500 yards!!! Yes, he threw a pick, but Dallas would not even have been in that game if not for Romo and the receivers. The guy was sacked 4 times, and still managed to score 48 points!!! Ridiculous for a defense to give up 51 points. There were holes in that secondary that I could have completed passes in!! Ridiculous!!!
I will say though that it was a fun game to watch, even though they lost.

[Macarthur]

Is anyone else shocked at how poorly Lee and carter are playing?

[Txbroadcaster]

Is anyone else shocked at how poorly Lee and carter are playing?

Lee had 16 tackles yesterday but it seemed most of them were 5 yds down field

[GrTigers6]

If you believe ROMO is a choke artist then you will point to yesterday's game as proof.

If you believe ROMO is a great quarterback then you will point to yesterday's game is proof.

The most vocal posters on this thread illustrate this perfectly... just like Dems and Repubs, they are arguing with no willingness to consider another viewpoint. That's called stalemate and just means we will ready lots of posts repeating them same stuff.

So let me add to it. Romo played on another level yesterday. Then he forced the pass at the end of the game, (AND stepped into the OL feet tand short stepped his throw) and threw a bad ball. It was a bad decision, he knew it and that was the ballgame. He was one of many Cowboys who you can point to as a reason they lost.

IMHO the Cowboys immediately should have let the Broncos score... especially on that pass play. There was zero chance to get the ball back with any reasonable time on the clock without a quick Denver TD. Anything else was fantasy.

IMHO - Defense? We have no defense. Who from the defense stepped up and made a game changing play? And by game-changing play I mean any that would would force one, just one Denver punt.

Its a crappy loss. I'll chalk that one up as one we were never supposed to win, but turned into a heartbreaker.

That's the whole problem I have with this game. I expected the defense to get destroyed because of their past games of giving up 400+ yards per game in 3 out of 4 games. What I didn't expect is how the offense played well enough to overcome that horrible display of defense that we saw and be in position to win at the end. I had it in my head before the game started that it was more than likely going to be a 48-35 type victory for the broncos. It took an immaculate game by Romo and the offense to even be close. I mean with the exception of the last drive they scored a td every drive in the second half. I just hope they carry this offensive momentum with them the rest of the year and figure out that every week they have to be aggressive and outscore what the defense gives up.

[Eagle 1]

Is anyone else shocked at how poorly Lee and carter are playing?

Something we can agree on. I kept saying Lee is not in this game.

[Macarthur]

Lee had 16 tackles yesterday but it seemed most of them were 5 yds down field

The LBers have been okay versus the run, but they have been abused all season by RBs and TEs in the passing game.

[GrTigers6]

The LBers have been okay versus the run, but they have been abused all season by RBs and TEs in the passing game.

I kept saying the entire game. Why cant someone pick up the RB out of the back field. It seems every week we get burned by that play.

[Farmersfan]

Here's the thing, FF. The game started out with dallas owning the football quite a bit. To your point, the Dallas defense gave up 51points and over 500 yards in barely more than 3 quarters. How much would they have given up if the Broncos had the ball more in the first quarter? 60?

And, yes, it was a bad interception by Romo. But when you have to throw all game, you're going to be hard pressed to not have a mistake somewhere. Even the immortal peyton threw a Bad 4th quarter pick. Romo was hurried 15 times and sacked 3 times and escaped another 2 or 3 easy. Peyton had a clean pocket all night. I think each QB had very different levels of difficulty.

And let's not forget the lber made a diving catch with his body parallel with group. Even though it was an ill advised throw, it took a circus catch to make the int.


Ok! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Is that enough? It's been said by everyone a million times. Now that that is out of the way lets address the Elephant in the room. Tony Romo made a mistake that QBs in the NFL have been taught for their entire lives they cannot make. And if that int by Romo was an anomoly then people would not be down on Romo right now like they are. But it's not an anomoly and you guys trying to act like the world hates him for no reason are really starting to look like complete baffoons. I actually think Romo played a fantastic game yesterday and gave his team a real chance to beat a team that I felt they had no chance to beat. But that doesn't excuse the brain dead mistake that took it all away in the end. Nobody that I have read is trying to excuse the defense. But plenty of people seem to want to excuse Romo. As usual!

[Manso/V8]

Ok! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Is that enough? It's been said by everyone a million times. Now that that is out of the way lets address the Elephant in the room. Tony Romo made a mistake that QBs in the NFL have been taught for their entire lives they cannot make. And if that int by Romo was an anomoly then people would not be down on Romo right now like they are. But it's not an anomoly and you guys trying to act like the world hates him for no reason are really starting to look like complete baffoons. I actually think Romo played a fantastic game yesterday and gave his team a real chance to beat a team that I felt they had no chance to beat. But that doesn't excuse the brain dead mistake that took it all away in the end. Nobody that I have read is trying to excuse the defense. But plenty of people seem to want to excuse Romo. As usual!

Still rather have Matt Schaub?

[Txbroadcaster]

Ok! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Is that enough? It's been said by everyone a million times. Now that that is out of the way lets address the Elephant in the room. Tony Romo made a mistake that QBs in the NFL have been taught for their entire lives they cannot make. And if that int by Romo was an anomoly then people would not be down on Romo right now like they are. But it's not an anomoly and you guys trying to act like the world hates him for no reason are really starting to look like complete baffoons. I actually think Romo played a fantastic game yesterday and gave his team a real chance to beat a team that I felt they had no chance to beat. But that doesn't excuse the brain dead mistake that took it all away in the end. Nobody that I have read is trying to excuse the defense. But plenty of people seem to want to excuse Romo. As usual!


i think that is the issue..it was a int..but your acting like he threw it right at a defender with no WR/TE anywhere close...it was the same type of throw he had been making all day had a guy in a window who was open and the LB made a great play by undercutting the route and diving for it...not really a brain dead throw like say Shaub did last week

[Eagle 1]

i think that is the issue..it was a int..but your acting like he threw it right at a defender with no WR/TE anywhere close...it was the same type of throw he had been making all day had a guy in a window who was open and the LB made a great play by undercutting the route and diving for it...not really a brain dead throw like say Shaub did last week

Dude, he threw the ball right into triple coverage and a referee in the way. LOL....
If that's not brain dead then I don't know what is.
Why not check it down to a wide open Murray?

EDIT: Looking at the play, Romo only needed to step up in the pocket and give himself more options. So that argument that he was being pressured does not apply to this play. LOL...

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/romo-interception-against-broncos.gif

[Emerson1]

i think that is the issue..it was a int..but your acting like he threw it right at a defender with no WR/TE anywhere close...it was the same type of throw he had been making all day had a guy in a window who was open and the LB made a great play by undercutting the route and diving for it...not really a brain dead throw like say Shaub did last week

The picture I posted earlier shows that Escobar was open too.

[Emerson1]

Dude, he threw the ball right into triple coverage and a referee in the way. LOL....
If that's not brain dead then I don't know what is.
Why not check it down to a wide open Murray?

EDIT: Looking at the play, Romo only needed to step up in the pocket and give himself more options. So that argument that he was being pressured does not apply to this play. LOL...

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/romo-interception-against-broncos.gif

lol Escobar is open enough. Then he runs away from the ball and the LB has to make an epic diving catch. It's hardly triple coverage. The other two defenders had no play on the ball. He doesn't check down because Escobar should make that play.

[cougartino]

the lbers have been okay versus the run, but they have been abused all season by rbs and tes in the passing game.

preach!

[hollywood]

Any of them but Romo.

Ok riddle me this.
What will Romo be most remembered for by any NFL fan?
A. A come from behind qb.
B. A choking qb when the game is on the line.

Honestly we all know the answer.

:fnypost: :iagree:

Romio is a very good NFL QB that will probably be a HOF'er by stats.

But he is not great like others. Your riddle is the reason why. What will Romo be most remembered for by any NFL fan? And it's just the way it is. Can he overcome this? Maybe. Probably not. But I think it's just the way he's wired. He'll have you pump fisting one series and SYDH the next and you can almost always bank on cussing him if he has the ball to win the game at the end... or pointing the blame on something else if you're a Romosexual. Stats are stats. He has great stats... but also has a very bad stat that will cost the W. Turnover's as a comeback Cowboy. He's not that type of QB. But still a really good QB.

[hollywood]

lol Escobar is open enough. Then he runs away from the ball and the LB has to make an epic diving catch. It's hardly triple coverage. The other two defenders had no play on the ball. He doesn't check down because Escobar should make that play.

You're smoking crack if you think that was the TE's fault!! lol If anything, Romo didn't lead the TE's enough. It allowed the LB to be able to make that catch. lol If Romo placed the ball where he probably was aiming, LB wouldn't have had a play on the ball. You're reaching brotha.

[Emerson1]

You're smoking crack if you think that was the TE's fault!! lol If anything, Romo didn't lead the TE's enough. It allowed the LB to be able to make that catch. lol If Romo placed the ball where he probably was aiming, LB wouldn't have had a play on the ball. You're reaching brotha.

Or if the TE doesn't drift upfield he blocks the LB from having a clean shot at it.

[buff4ever]

I am only giving one post to this thread. No one expected that the cowboys would win this game. Romo played the best he has played in a long time. The defense, which has had its ups and downs, but has been more dependable than our offense this year, faced the best offense in the league; did worse than I expected. I though we could force them to punt once or twice. This would have been enough with the way our offense played yesterday.

On another note, let's not crown Romo equal to any great qbs in the league based on this one game. A lot of people made this game out to be ROMO vs. MANNING. It wasn't that. It was romo vs. not so great bronco defense and manning vs. no so great cowboy defense. With that being said, I think our defense can still get it done this year like they have shown signs of. But the task they had yesterday was a very difficult one. The bronco defense will improve with von miller and bailey. Then they will continue to be a favorite for the super bowl victory.

I was personally not mad a romo for the int at the end of the game. I want to be because I don't like him, and do think he is a choke artist. Maybe he forced it, maybe the receiver should have made a better effort, it was a hell of a int by the defender. But I thought for the game, romo played obviously very well. I said it yesterday and I will stick to it. This is the kind of game romo plays well in; no pressure and nothing to lose. No one expected the cowboys to win, so romo could play without pressure to get the job done. When the pressure is on him in a win or go home game, that is when I want to see him play the way he did yesterday; that would help him prove he has in him what he has still not shown to this day.

[Roughneck93]

Romo...

“I wanted to put it another two feet out in front,” Romo said, “and I didn’t put it exactly where I needed to. It’s frustrating and disappointing.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4716507/another-cruel-twist-for-tony-romo

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Dude, he threw the ball right into triple coverage and a referee in the way. LOL....
If that's not brain dead then I don't know what is.
Why not check it down to a wide open Murray?

EDIT: Looking at the play, Romo only needed to step up in the pocket and give himself more options. So that argument that he was being pressured does not apply to this play. LOL...

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/romo-interception-against-broncos.gif Thanks for putting this up, was wondering what happen on that play, was hearing it on the radio coming back home from Louisiana. He had one open up short on that 2nd down play it seems :(


when I left the casino Dallas was up 48-41 with about 7 mins. Few people gather in the area I was in and before I left said I hope it doesn't come down to Romo with ball and game tied with 2 mins because we all know what happens at the end of games with Dallas and Romo.

Bit of the game I did see, Dallas defense was giving up big yardage on runs and passes and Denver defense was giving up big plays but because Romo had to escape pressure. Seems I missed another thrilling game for Dallas.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Romo...

“I wanted to put it another two feet out in front,” Romo said, “and I didn’t put it exactly where I needed to. It’s frustrating and disappointing.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4716507/another-cruel-twist-for-tony-romolooks like he threw it to triple coverage, don't think it matter where it went to that player he was covered.

[Saggy Aggie]

Poor romo... Only qb in the league that could put up that statline and still be criticized. At least y'all don't have Schaub...

[Macarthur]

Ok! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Defense was terrible! Is that enough? It's been said by everyone a million times. Now that that is out of the way lets address the Elephant in the room. Tony Romo made a mistake that QBs in the NFL have been taught for their entire lives they cannot make. And if that int by Romo was an anomoly then people would not be down on Romo right now like they are. But it's not an anomoly and you guys trying to act like the world hates him for no reason are really starting to look like complete baffoons. I actually think Romo played a fantastic game yesterday and gave his team a real chance to beat a team that I felt they had no chance to beat. But that doesn't excuse the brain dead mistake that took it all away in the end. Nobody that I have read is trying to excuse the defense. But plenty of people seem to want to excuse Romo. As usual!

@SI_PeterKing: RT @PriscoCBS: If you rip Romo, you are an idiot ... Amen.

[Mojo84]

Didn't the Broncos give up just as many points as Dallas up to the point of the interception? Does that mean Romo did great or that the Denver defense sucked as bad as the Dallas defense?

Bottom line is, Romo made a bad decision and threw a pick in a critical time of the game when he had a wide open receiver that would have gained just as much yardage as the guy that was surrounded by three defenders. Also, Romo has a history of making such mistakes in the past at critical times.

He's a good qb but not a great one. Nor is he a championship qb. He just doesn't have if. Warren Moon was similar in the he just didn't have what it took to be great.

Also, just because someone has a different opinion doesn't make them an "idiot" or indicate they know nothing of the game. Resorting to name calling and personal attacks reveals more about the person doing such than it does the target.

[hollywood]

Didn't the Broncos give up just as many points as Dallas up to the point of the interception? Does that mean Romo did great or that the Denver defense sucked as bad as the Dallas defense?

Bottom line is, Romo made a bad decision and threw a pick in a critical time of the game when he had a wide open receiver that would have gained just as much yardage as the guy that was surrounded by three defenders. Also, Romo has a history of making such mistakes in the past at critical times.

He's a good qb but not a great one. Nor is he a championship qb. He just doesn't have if. Warren Moon was similar in the he just didn't have what it took to be great.

Also, just because someone has a different opinion doesn't make them an "idiot" or indicate they know nothing of the game. Resorting to name calling and personal attacks reveals more about the person doing such than it does the target.

Amen!

[Eagle 1]

lol Escobar is open enough. Then he runs away from the ball and the LB has to make an epic diving catch. It's hardly triple coverage. The other two defenders had no play on the ball. He doesn't check down because Escobar should make that play.
Says the boy that was in the band in high school and never played high school football. Lol
Like I said if Romo steps up in the pocket on that play he would then have more options.