Cowboys @ Chiefs

[Roughneck93]

Looks like I'll be missing the first half.

Can someone please post some updates? :)

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Looks like I'll be missing the first half.

Can someone please post some updates? :)will do. Go Cowboys!!!


Cowboy hater in ESPN gameday......Ray Lewis!!!!

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Chiefs at the Cowboys 41 after couple of first downs.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Chiefs another first down, at Cowboys 29 yd line

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd and 10 for the chiefs

[SintonFan_inAustin]

qb scrambles for a first down inside the cowboys 20

[SintonFan_inAustin]

qb scrambles and gets to 2 yd line

fumbles into the endzone but rule down

[SintonFan_inAustin]

TD KC on 2nd on goal

KC 7 Dal 0 8:13 1st qtr

[Roughneck93]

Damn...:dispntd:

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Romo and co. start at their own 20

[SintonFan_inAustin]

romo completes to Dez and Dez brought down at the KC 29

[SintonFan_inAustin]

sack on 2nd down

3rd and 16

[SintonFan_inAustin]

short pass to Dez Bryant for 2 yds

FG team in from 51 yds

[Txbroadcaster]

OL already looks over matched

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Good

KC 7 Dal 3 5:02 1st

[SintonFan_inAustin]

OL already looks over matched

Romo going to have to move around or get rid of it quicker in this game.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

KC start from their own 20

3rd and 1

[SintonFan_inAustin]

pass attempt batted down

Cowboys decline a hands to the face and brings up 4th and 1

punting

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Cowboys with a good return near their own 45

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Murray couple of carries and has a first down at the KC 44

Romo to Dez to KC 5 yd line on a diving catch

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Romo to Dez to goalline ball rule at the 1 yd

[SintonFan_inAustin]

so far KC has man to man on Dez

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Dez 4 catches 98 yds


TD Romo to Dez

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Dal 10 KC 7 :36 1st

[SintonFan_inAustin]

KC start at their own 20

pass complete to their own 47

End of 1st qtr

Dallas 10 Kansas City 7

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd and 4 at the Cowboys 47

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Sacked, cowboys d comes up with the stop

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Cowboys take over from their 5 yd line after the punt

[SintonFan_inAustin]

nothing doing in this offensive series

Cowboys punting

[SintonFan_inAustin]

KC return it to Dallas 48

Dal 10 KC 7 2nd qtr

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Ware with a qb smash on a sack

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd and 13

pass incomplete as the qb scrambled

KC punting from their own 49

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Dal 10 KC 7 11:07 2nd qtr

Dallas starts from their 9 yd line

[Farmersfan]

The Dallas Offense has disappeared.

[Saggy Aggie]

The Dallas Offense has disappeared.

Haha on cue

[Farmersfan]

Haha on cue


What cue would that be Aggie? Maybe when the Dallas Offense disappeared?

[Txbroadcaster]

cannot do much when OL is bad

[Txbroadcaster]

very solid half by Dallas

[SintonFan_inAustin]

got side tracked what was the halftime score?

[Txbroadcaster]

10-7 Dallas

[SintonFan_inAustin]

10-7 Dallas

good, defense must have played better from that first series.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Good start in the 2nd half

completion for a first down to Dez

[SintonFan_inAustin]

another first down completion to Dez

at their own 45

[SintonFan_inAustin]

first down again to Dez

at KC44

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd and 3 for Dal at KC 37

[SintonFan_inAustin]

1st down to rookie Williams to KC 17

[SintonFan_inAustin]

rb Dunbar runs it for a 1st down

1st goal from the 5

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Romo sacked

[SintonFan_inAustin]

pass to Murray to the 4 yd line

3rd and goal

[SintonFan_inAustin]

:(

false start

[SintonFan_inAustin]

bad play call. lost yard on that pass play.

FG attempt

Dallas 13-7

[Txbroadcaster]

bad call play. lost yard on that pass play.

FG attempt

very bad play call

[SintonFan_inAustin]

very bad play call

Thought they would go to what has been working, Dez is still one on one and was open on that play

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd and 10 for KC

[SintonFan_inAustin]

first down pass complete to Dallas 37

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Cowboy gets run over by KC #25

[SintonFan_inAustin]

pass complete to Dallas 12

[SintonFan_inAustin]

TD KC on a 12 yd pass

KC 14 Dal 13 2:53 3rd

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Dallas good return at their own 32

[SintonFan_inAustin]

9 yds completion to Austin

Murray for couple of yds for a 1st down

[SintonFan_inAustin]

:crying:

first down but a fumble

[SintonFan_inAustin]

play being reviewed

KC ball

End of 3rd qtr
KC 14 Dal 13

[SintonFan_inAustin]

KC at Dal 22
4th and 1

FG attemp

[SintonFan_inAustin]

KC 17 Dal 13 4th qtr

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Dal starts at their own 20

2and 6

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd and 5

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Romo back to pass and ball knocked lose before the passing motion.

KC recovers

[SintonFan_inAustin]

KC at the Dal 35

[Roughneck93]

:foul:

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd and 9

[SintonFan_inAustin]

SACCKKKEEEDDD!

out of fg range

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Cowboys start at their own 15

[Txbroadcaster]

if Lee and Carter can just stay healthy

[SintonFan_inAustin]

2nd and 10

Dez open and drops it

[Txbroadcaster]

2nd and 10

Dez open and drops it

terrible drop

[SintonFan_inAustin]

incomplete

punting 8:51 left

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3rd amd 5

need a stop

[SintonFan_inAustin]

hit at los but breaks the tackle and close to a first down

[SintonFan_inAustin]

4th and inches

[SintonFan_inAustin]

going for it

[SintonFan_inAustin]

they were trying to draw them offsides.

KC punting

[SintonFan_inAustin]

nice punt puts dallas at around 1 but illegal touching for KC

Dal ball at the 20 :)

[SintonFan_inAustin]

pass complete to Austin to 31

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Romo to Dez for a first down

[SintonFan_inAustin]

2nd and 6 at their own 48

[SintonFan_inAustin]

pass to Murray for a 1st down to KC 35

[SintonFan_inAustin]

4:23 left in the game

False start on Dal

1st and 15

[SintonFan_inAustin]

pass incomplete

2nd and 15

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Romo intercepted but a flag

[SintonFan_inAustin]

:)

holding on KC

[SintonFan_inAustin]

come on, Get the ball downfield!

[Farmersfan]

Mr. 4th Quarter is throwing one horrible ball after the other.... pick 6 coming

[SintonFan_inAustin]

:(

3rd and 10

2 terrible passes

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Time out KC with 3:57 left

they don't make it go for it on 4th down.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

another short throw and bad

4th down and 10

[SintonFan_inAustin]

fg attempt from 53

Good

KC 17 Dal 16 3:50 left

[SintonFan_inAustin]

seems offense was playing to get close for fg with all 3 throws being a short pass.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

arrrr! KC fumbles but recovers.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

2nd and 7

time out with 3:40

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Mr. 4th Quarter is throwing one horrible ball after the other.... pick 6 coming

did look bad on those 3 throws before the fg

[SintonFan_inAustin]

:crying:

1st down KC

[SintonFan_inAustin]

KC at their own 28

1st down but goes out of bounds

[SintonFan_inAustin]

1st and 15 for KC

[SintonFan_inAustin]

2nd and 9
time out dallas for their last time out.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

3:21 left in the game

KC to their own 49

3rd and 5

[SintonFan_inAustin]

delay of game

3rd and 10

[Farmersfan]

seems offense was playing to get close for fg with all 3 throws being a short pass.


Don't kid yourself. Those were all Romo decisions. He had receivers downfield and with 8 Chiefs on the L.O.S. I'm pretty sure they were open.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

2:32

dangggg

pass interferance

[Roughneck93]

It's over...

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Don't kid yourself. Those were all Romo decisions. He had receivers downfield and with 8 Chiefs on the L.O.S. I'm pretty sure they were open. Had Dez 1 on 1 on 3rd down and no look that way at all, straight to short route. whoever called it was thinking fg with being down by 4 :doh:

[Txbroadcaster]

Don't kid yourself. Those were all Romo decisions. He had receivers downfield and with 8 Chiefs on the L.O.S. I'm pretty sure they were open.


lol of course...dude is at 70% completion with a TD but your going to to blame him...at this point FF I honestly do not know what you want from a QB outside of he has to be superman or something

[SintonFan_inAustin]

It's over...

yep and now they stuff the runner at the los when they need that earlier.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

no time outs and just throw it short and runner stays in the middle.

no chance but atleast give a shot with another play

[Farmersfan]

lol of course...dude is at 70% completion with a TD but your going to to blame him...at this point FF I honestly do not know what you want from a QB outside of he has to be superman or something


I'm thinking you probably should actually watch the game.

[coach]

Don't kid yourself. Those were all Romo decisions. He had receivers downfield and with 8 Chiefs on the L.O.S. I'm pretty sure they were open.

So what about the dez drop? Romo didn't throw a perfect spiral?

When you don't run the ball once in the 4th quarter, you are going to lose.

[Txbroadcaster]

I'm thinking you probably should actually watch the game.

yep sure did..when u run for 37 what do you expect?

[cougartino]

Still believe in JJ?

[bd62]

Typical Dallas.Beat a good team and lose to a
Average team. 8-8 again

[bobcat1]

Romo threw the ball behind and way out in front of too many receivers today when it mattered.(In the 4th Quarter One good throw he made was dropped by Bryant.) He just wasn't real sharp. No way Dallas should have lost that game but they found a way. Garrett should have went for it on 4th down instead of taking a field goal. Truthfully what did getting to down by 1 make? The play calling was horrid. Defense needs to learn in the 4th quarter to wrap up. Oh and our line can't run block at all.

[Tejastrue]

KC looked far better than average today and with Reid now the HC may just be what they've needed to get over the hump and believe in the system.

[bd62]

Romo threw the ball behind and way out in front of too many receivers today when it mattered.(In the 4th Quarter One good throw he made was dropped by Bryant.) He just wasn't real sharp. No way Dallas should have lost that game but they found a way. Garrett should have went for it on 4th down instead of taking a field goal. Truthfully what did getting to down by 1 make? The play calling was horrid. Defense needs to learn in the 4th quarter to wrap up. Oh and our line can't run block at all.

Amen

[regaleagle]

Just looking around the league and all the games played today, I'd say the Cowboys better figure out how to put more points on the board or it's curtains early. Less than 3 TD's just ain't gonna get it done in today's league. Defense can only do so much....can't hold teams down every week, lol. You don't have to score 3 TD's every week to win, but 16 pts. is not what you want to see from your offense. Just not nearly good enough.

[bobcat1]

I wish we would have went after Reid and then had the same hires defensively as far as coaches go.

[Macarthur]

The biggest problem this team has is the same thing as last year - cant run the football.

If we're going to average under 3 yards per carry, we're going to struggle against quality defenses. KC is going to be a playoff team this year, IMO.

Norm in the post game said that romo is on pace to throw over 700 times this season. That is insane.

[ogg]

Hey Romo, next time 6'2" Dez is covered by a 5'7" guy like Flowers (single cover) play the "jump ball" at the back of the end zone and score.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Hey Romo, next time 6'2" Dez is covered by a 5'7" guy like Flowers (single cover) play the "jump ball" at the back of the end zone and score.yep but was it Romo doing the play calling?

[ogg]

yep but was it Romo doing the play calling?

He should know to get the ball in the hands of his playmaker SintonFan. Romo has the power to call and change plays. Third down and goal and he throws a lateral ball to a well covered receiver in the flat for negative yards instead of Dez, goofy I say, goofy. Hell I turned the game off at that point.

[hookandladder]

lol of course...dude is at 70% completion with a TD but your going to to blame him...at this point FF I honestly do not know what you want from a QB outside of he has to be superman or something

Weather my opinion is right or wrong , the bottom line with QB's is making the plays when it count's. Stats are nice to look at however what seperate's winner QB's from Losing QB's is what they do when the game is on the line, The Manning's, Brees, Brady and many more know how to make those plays and bottom line Romo does not. Romo is just overrated and way over paid.

[Macarthur]

Weather my opinion is right or wrong , the bottom line with QB's is making the plays when it count's. Stats are nice to look at however what seperate's winner QB's from Losing QB's is what they do when the game is on the line, The Manning's, Brees, Brady and many more know how to make those plays and bottom line Romo does not. Romo is just overrated and way over paid.

So the throw that romo dropped right into dez's hands that very well could have been a TD ...was that a winning play or a losing play by romo? Does Dez dropping that ball make romo a loser?

[hookandladder]

So the throw that romo dropped right into dez's hands that very well could have been a TD ...was that a winning play or a losing play by romo? Does Dez dropping that ball make romo a loser?

Cowboys lost and Romo other then the HC has another L beside their name, so that would be a losing play by Romo because dez does not get a W or L by his name. I am sure that is the only play that Romo could have helped his team win, one play always wins or losses a game. Right.

[Macarthur]

Cowboys lost and Romo other then the HC has another L beside their name, so that would be a losing play by Romo because dez does not get a W or L by his name. See how easy that was.

Yeah, I see that. What's funny is that you don't see the irony in your own post. Wow.

[D'Highlander]

same cowboys... different year...

[Macarthur]

I ahve huge questions about what seemed to be the game plan yesterday. The Ticket said this morning that there were some whispers out at the ranch that Romo struggled all week with the ribs. So he takes a shot before the game and the offensive plan was to throw 46 tines and run 16?

I have some real issues with that game plan. The game was never out of reach for either team so it's not like they had to throw that many times. It was clear that later in the game, Romo was not sharp. The further he got from the injection, the worse his accuracy.

I can't believe the game plan going in with a QB with bad ribs was to throw almost 50 passes.

Again, norm said last night that Romo is on pace to throw 700 times this year. He won't make it through the season at this pace.

[Txbroadcaster]

I ahve huge questions about what seemed to be the game plan yesterday. The Ticket said this morning that there were some whispers out at the ranch that Romo struggled all week with the ribs. So he takes a shot before the game and the offensive plan was to throw 46 tines and run 16?

I have some real issues with that game plan. The game was never out of reach for either team so it's not like they had to throw that many times. It was clear that later in the game, Romo was not sharp. The further he got from the injection, the worse his accuracy.

I can't believe the game plan going in with a QB with bad ribs was to throw almost 50 passes.

Again, norm said last night that Romo is on pace to throw 700 times this year. He won't make it through the season at this pace.

what else can you do when the run game is so bad?...keep handing off and falling down for a yard( on a good run).

[Macarthur]

what else can you do when the run game is so bad?...keep handing off and falling down for a yard( on a good run).

I get your point but they stuck with it against the giants. You can't just abandon it.

[hookandladder]

same cowboys... different year...

You said it , another year of Romo. Win one game and lose to a lessor team the next, pitiful.

[Txbroadcaster]

I get your point but they stuck with it against the giants. You can't just abandon it.

they rushed the ball all of 7 more times against Giants...and were have a little bit more of success Jason Witten said it last week..you cannot just run to say hey look were running..they have to get better at OL..the D I think is going to be pretty solid, but like you said Romo will be killed if he has to throw it 40 times a game

[Farmersfan]

So the throw that romo dropped right into dez's hands that very well could have been a TD ...was that a winning play or a losing play by romo? Does Dez dropping that ball make romo a loser?


Horrible effort by Dez on that play. No excuse for Dez to drop that ball. But Romo had ample opportunity to overcome it and failed. Tony might have been 70% for the game but he was 40% on the last possession with two incomplete passes that should have been interceptions and 3 incompletions that were high, behind or in the dirt......... 5 straight incomplete passes that even had Troy Aikman (who usually defends QBs) commenting on Romo's accuracy and game management to end the chances of the Dallas Cowboys. That is what makes Tony Romo a loser!

[Txbroadcaster]

Horrible effort by Dez on that play. No excuse for Dez to drop that ball. But Romo had ample opportunity to overcome it and failed. Tony might have been 70% for the game but he was 40% on the last possession with two incomplete passes that should have been interceptions and 3 incompletions that were high, behind or in the dirt......... 5 straight incomplete passes that even had Troy Aikman (who usually defends QBs) commenting on Romo's accuracy and game management to end the chances of the Dallas Cowboys. That is what makes Tony Romo a loser!

when did Aikman comment on anything? He did the Packers game

[Emerson1]

What makes the Chiefs a lessor team?

Vegas had them favored for a reason.

[hookandladder]

Horrible effort by Dez on that play. No excuse for Dez to drop that ball. But Romo had ample opportunity to overcome it and failed. Tony might have been 70% for the game but he was 40% on the last possession with two incomplete passes that should have been interceptions and 3 incompletions that were high, behind or in the dirt......... 5 straight incomplete passes that even had Troy Aikman (who usually defends QBs) commenting on Romo's accuracy and game management to end the chances of the Dallas Cowboys. That is what makes Tony Romo a loser!

This makes perfect sense to me but some just want to look at one play winning or losing a game, hell I bet the refs even had one play that could have decided the game to.

[Macarthur]

Horrible effort by Dez on that play. No excuse for Dez to drop that ball. But Romo had ample opportunity to overcome it and failed. Tony might have been 70% for the game but he was 40% on the last possession with two incomplete passes that should have been interceptions and 3 incompletions that were high, behind or in the dirt......... 5 straight incomplete passes that even had Troy Aikman (who usually defends QBs) commenting on Romo's accuracy and game management to end the chances of the Dallas Cowboys. That is what makes Tony Romo a loser!

Romo did not have a good second half.

[hookandladder]

What makes the Chiefs a lessor team?

Vegas had them favored for a reason.

Well then Romo made some money, Dallas has the highest paid QB in the league and they are picked to lose to the Chiefs after beating the Giants the week before. Wow.

[Txbroadcaster]

Well then Romo made some money, Dallas has the highest paid QB in the league and they are picked to lose to the Chiefs after beating the Giants the week before. Wow.

for the record he is not...and you keep saying one play does not make a game, but you act like one position does

[Saggy Aggie]

Well then Romo made some money, Dallas has the highest paid QB in the league and they are picked to lose to the Chiefs after beating the Giants the week before. Wow.

Well chiefs will be the most improved team in the league this year. 2nd best in that division.

Now that they don't have a turnover machine at QB, you can see that they have a lot of talent otherwise

[Farmersfan]

they rushed the ball all of 7 more times against Giants...and were have a little bit more of success Jason Witten said it last week..you cannot just run to say hey look were running..they have to get better at OL..the D I think is going to be pretty solid, but like you said Romo will be killed if he has to throw it 40 times a game



I don't understand your logic TXB. Dallas had zero run game yesterday because the Chiefs were stacking the box with 7, 8 or 9 men most of the time. This is the Andy Reid defense that was dominate so long in Philly and the Chiefs play it very, very well. That was not a bad team the Cowboys played yesterday. But the Cowboys did have an opportunity to win the game and fell on their faces. AGAIN! That goes back to leadership in my opinion. I personally think the QB is the primary on the field leader but the sideline leader Jason Garrett seems like he gives his team NOTHING during a game. He is passionless and doesn't make adjustments when needed. And just to put this in perspective: The Cowboys only threw 6 more passes than the Chiefs did yesterday and 7 more than Manning threw last week. The differences is the other two QBs have thrown passes for 28 more points than Romo has. So the Cowboys can have 1000 yards rushing or passing and 70% completions between the 20's but if they don't put the points on the board they won't win...

[Txbroadcaster]

I don't understand your logic TXB. Dallas had zero run game yesterday because the Chiefs were stacking the box with 7, 8 or 9 men most of the time. This is the Andy Reid defense that was dominate so long in Philly and the Chiefs play it very, very well. That was not a bad team the Cowboys played yesterday. But the Cowboys did have an opportunity to win the game and fell on their faces. AGAIN! That goes back to leadership in my opinion. I personally think the QB is the primary on the field leader but the sideline leader Jason Garrett seems like he gives his team NOTHING during a game. He is passionless and doesn't make adjustments when needed. And just to put this in perspective: The Cowboys only threw 6 more passes than the Chiefs did yesterday and 7 more than Manning threw last week. The differences is the other two QBs have thrown passes for 28 more points than Romo has. So the Cowboys can have 1000 yards rushing or passing and 70% completions between the 20's but if they don't put the points on the board they won't win...


not really sure your point

[Farmersfan]

when did Aikman comment on anything? He did the Packers game


Sorry, Chris Myers! I watched a lot of football yesterday. The point was that both announcers were making comments during that point of the game.

[Txbroadcaster]

Sorry, Chris Myers! I watched a lot of football yesterday. The point was that both announcers were making comments during that point of the game.

it was Tim Ryan..and he was right...but he also claimed the Dallas OL was playing great LOL

[Farmersfan]

it was Tim Ryan..and he was right...but he also claimed the Dallas OL was playing great LOL



For the most part Romo had plenty of time to throw the ball. The 0-line handled a really, really good defense that sent blitzes and stunts the entire game fairly well. Of course they weren't perfect and Romo was sacked on a couple of missed assignments by the two new guys on the line but Dallas's opposing QBs have been under far more duress than Romo has through these 1st two games.

[Farmersfan]

not really sure your point

My point is that a lack of a running game isn't the reason they lost this game. You keep harping on the bad running game. Of course they will need to get it ironed out or it will be a struggle all season. But guess what? It's always a struggle every season. If the running game is dominate the passing game will suck and the defense will give up 45 and they will lose. It doesn't matter how they do it they just have to put points on the board. End of story......

[ronwx5x]

[QUOTE=Farmersfan;1762169] If the running game is dominate the passing game will suck and the defense will give up 45 and they will lose. QUOTE]

Ever the optimist?

[coach]

My point is that a lack of a running game isn't the reason they lost this game. You keep harping on the bad running game. Of course they will need to get it ironed out or it will be a struggle all season. But guess what? It's always a struggle every season. If the running game is dominate the passing game will suck and the defense will give up 45 and they will lose. It doesn't matter how they do it they just have to put points on the board. End of story......

8-0 when we give murray the ball at least 20 timnes.

2-9 when we dont....

[GrTigers6]

Well then Romo made some money, Dallas has the highest paid QB in the league and they are picked to lose to the Chiefs after beating the Giants the week before. Wow.

UH the Giants aren't that great. Did you see them yesterday? 10 turnovers in two games.
And I would put money on KC making the playoffs and possibly winning a playoff game

[Macarthur]

In addition to the ribs, I still think the back stuff is bothering romo. He doesn't look the same.

[D'Highlander]

UH the Giants aren't that great. Did you see them yesterday? 10 turnovers in two games.
And I would put money on KC making the playoffs and possibly winning a playoff game

Right... just imagine how good they will be when the get rid of the Turnovers. :devil:

[GrTigers6]

Right... just imagine how good they will be when the get rid of the Turnovers. :devil:Even without the turnovers they aren't that good. I mean Hell the Cowboys beat them:doh:

[D'Highlander]

Even without the turnovers they aren't that good. I mean Hell the Cowboys beat them:doh:

I still cant believe Stupid Face has 2 rings

[Emerson1]

it was Tim Ryan..and he was right...but he also claimed the Dallas OL was playing great LOL

That crew was terrible. They questioned why Harris tried to pick the ball up on the final punt after Chiefs' players had touched it as if it was a dangerous decision...

[buff4ever]

That crew was terrible. They questioned why Harris tried to pick the ball up on the final punt after Chiefs' players had touched it as if it was a dangerous decision...

Those statements annoyed me too. Announcers have got to be smarter than that, unless they are just filling time with something whether they believe in what they are saying or not.

[Farmersfan]

8-0 when we give murray the ball at least 20 timnes.

2-9 when we dont....


If the Cowboys are winning the game Murray gets a lot more carries than he does when they are playing from behind or in a close game. How many carries does Murray get yesterday if Romo throws 3 TD passes in the first half? The winning doesn't happen because they are running. They are running because they are winning.........................

[Farmersfan]

And I would put money on KC making the playoffs and possibly winning a playoff game


Me too! I think the Chiefs will only get better as the season goes on. They are talented and now have a good QB.

[Bullaholic]

This might be cliche' to say, but in today's NFL you have to have a 4-Quarter offense and a 4-Quarter defense. It doesn't matter if you run Kelly's read option every 3 sec or anything else---NFL offenses can beat you up to the last tick of the clock. Parity of offense vs defense is closer to reality than ever before. The winning teams create/recieve and capitalize on the breaks more consistently than losing teams, especially in the Red Zone.

[hookandladder]

for the record he is not...and you keep saying one play does not make a game, but you act like one position does

The only diference in blaming a QB is , he handles the ball on every snap. So yes in my opinion a QB can win or lose a game, that is why he is the only player that get's a W or L next to his name. He also makes the biggest pay check, Just the way it is. Weather he's likes it or not.

[hookandladder]

UH the Giants aren't that great. Did you see them yesterday? 10 turnovers in two games.
And I would put money on KC making the playoffs and possibly winning a playoff game

Never count the Giants out , Manning will redeem himself. He is a winner, plain and simple.

[Farmersfan]

The only diference in blaming a QB is , he handles the ball on every snap. So yes in my opinion a QB can win or lose a game, that is why he is the only player that get's a W or L next to his name. He also makes the biggest pay check, Just the way it is. Weather he's likes it or not.



Great point Hook! A lot of people on here don't understand this idea. I've said for years that the QB is directly responsible for about 75% of the success or failure of a football team with his play or with his indirect game management.

[hookandladder]

Great point Hook! A lot of people on here don't understand this idea. I've said for years that the QB is directly responsible for about 75% of the success or failure of a football team with his play or with his indirect game management.

I have told my son this for the last 4 years , being the QB is where it all starts and that is just the way it is. It is hell sitting in the stands knowing that your son can directly win or lose a game on any given play, just the way it is. It comes with the territory.

[Macarthur]

As much as everyone loves to hammer on romo and the offense, the game was a one point game and the defense had KC pinned inside the 20. Had 3 timeouts and like 4 minutes left. Offense never touches the ball again. Complete failure of defense. Someone said today that Charles had something like 12 yards on 12 carries prior to that last drive. Everyone in the stadium knew what was going to happen and we couldn't get a stop.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

As much as everyone loves to hammer on romo and the offense, the game was a one point game and the defense had KC pinned inside the 20. Had 3 timeouts and like 4 minutes left. Offense never touches the ball again. Complete failure of defense. Someone said today that Charles had something like 12 yards on 12 carries prior to that last drive. Everyone in the stadium knew what was going to happen and we couldn't get a stop.same thing like last season when defense needs to make a stop like they have been for most of the game, they get torched. That is one of the reasons for all these close losses by Dallas for a few years now. Yea some were Romo making big turnover but defense has had more times where they gave up the lead late. Somebody mention this team needs to play 4qtrs to be a good team because they vanish in the last minutes of the game.

[Farmersfan]

As much as everyone loves to hammer on romo and the offense, the game was a one point game and the defense had KC pinned inside the 20. Had 3 timeouts and like 4 minutes left. Offense never touches the ball again. Complete failure of defense. Someone said today that Charles had something like 12 yards on 12 carries prior to that last drive. Everyone in the stadium knew what was going to happen and we couldn't get a stop.


The game was a 1 point game at that point DISPITE the lack of performance from the offense. NFL average for scoring is around 22.5 points a game so far this season and normally over 17 points a game on any season. Even a average team is expected to score that much. I understand the mentality here but keeping a very talented and potent opposing team at or below the scoring average is just about as much as you can rightfully expect from your defense. If the Cowboy's offense is just average where 16 points is all we can expect then another 8-8 season would be a huge accomplishment for them. If the Cowboy's offense is better than average then this game was 100% on the offense. This team would be 0-2 right now if not for the OUTSTANDING performance of the defense last week with 6 turnovers. And I'm pretty sure holding that Chief's offense to barely over 300 total yards and 17 points will prove to also be a very, very special effort by this defense. (especially considering A. Smith torched them for over 60 yards early until they made the adjustment).
BTW: There were 11 3 hundred yard passers this weekend and the record was 6-5 for those teams. There was also 6 100 yard rushers in the NFL this weekend and those teams had a record of 3-3. There is no real requirement for winning in the NFL except for scoring points. It doesn't really matter how you do it.....................

[Macarthur]

The game was a 1 point game at that point DISPITE the lack of performance from the offense. NFL average for scoring is around 22.5 points a game so far this season and normally over 17 points a game on any season. Even a average team is expected to score that much. I understand the mentality here but keeping a very talented and potent opposing team at or below the scoring average is just about as much as you can rightfully expect from your defense. If the Cowboy's offense is just average where 16 points is all we can expect then another 8-8 season would be a huge accomplishment for them. If the Cowboy's offense is better than average then this game was 100% on the offense. This team would be 0-2 right now if not for the OUTSTANDING performance of the defense last week with 6 turnovers. And I'm pretty sure holding that Chief's offense to barely over 300 total yards and 17 points will prove to also be a very, very special effort by this defense. (especially considering A. Smith torched them for over 60 yards early until they made the adjustment).
BTW: There were 11 3 hundred yard passers this weekend and the record was 6-5 for those teams. There was also 6 100 yard rushers in the NFL this weekend and those teams had a record of 3-3. There is no real requirement for winning in the NFL except for scoring points. It doesn't really matter how you do it.....................

I'm OT absolving the offense but you calling the defensive effort special is going way overboard. KC has a decent offense but they are not anywhere as good on the outside as ny. Their passing game is designed to make short high % throws. They didn't push the ball down the field much. As I said, they did a good job on Charles until the last series when everyone knew he was going to get it. Then we couldn't stop him.

Again, a one point game, your defense has them pinned inside the 20, 4 minutes and all three TOs. There is really no excuse for the offense to not get the ball back there.

[hookandladder]

The game was a 1 point game at that point DISPITE the lack of performance from the offense. NFL average for scoring is around 22.5 points a game so far this season and normally over 17 points a game on any season. Even a average team is expected to score that much. I understand the mentality here but keeping a very talented and potent opposing team at or below the scoring average is just about as much as you can rightfully expect from your defense. If the Cowboy's offense is just average where 16 points is all we can expect then another 8-8 season would be a huge accomplishment for them. If the Cowboy's offense is better than average then this game was 100% on the offense. This team would be 0-2 right now if not for the OUTSTANDING performance of the defense last week with 6 turnovers. And I'm pretty sure holding that Chief's offense to barely over 300 total yards and 17 points will prove to also be a very, very special effort by this defense. (especially considering A. Smith torched them for over 60 yards early until they made the adjustment).
BTW: There were 11 3 hundred yard passers this weekend and the record was 6-5 for those teams. There was also 6 100 yard rushers in the NFL this weekend and those teams had a record of 3-3. There is no real requirement for winning in the NFL except for scoring points. It doesn't really matter how you do it.....................

Also in the Giants game if the defense does not get a pick 6 on the Giants last drive , then Cowboys would have most likely lost that game. The Cowboys would be sitting 0-2 , Romo went flat in the 4th quarter when he had the chance to put the game away. Theis years Cowboys are looking more like the Cowboys of last season, 8-8 could very well be where they finish again this year.

[Macarthur]

I swear some of you have a blind spot when it comes to the romo led cowboys.

If romo does not have a lights out game, the cowboys either win in spite of him or lose solely because of him.

[Macarthur]

A good write up by sturm that talks a lot about the running game woes and how that affects the passing game.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/story/Decoding-Callahan-Familiar-Issues-Lead-T?blockID=940785&feedID=10194

[GrTigers6]

Also in the Giants game if the defense does not get a pick 6 on the Giants last drive , then Cowboys would have most likely lost that game. The Cowboys would be sitting 0-2 , Romo went flat in the 4th quarter when he had the chance to put the game away. Theis years Cowboys are looking more like the Cowboys of last season, 8-8 could very well be where they finish again this year.

Because the defense gave up 31 points. Very poor Argument!:dispntd:

[Farmersfan]

I swear some of you have a blind spot when it comes to the romo led cowboys.

If romo does not have a lights out game, the cowboys either win in spite of him or lose solely because of him.



Yea, we all see where the blind spot is Mac. You even said yourself Romo didn't have a good second half and I showed where Romo was given the ball with 6 minutes left and crapped the bed. Yet you persist in blaming a defense who held the Chiefs to just 3 scores (2 tDs and 1 FG) dispite the fact the Chiefs were given possession inside Dallas territory on two different occasions. Let's continue to expect more and more from our defense while our offense scores below the NFL average every week. I've been arguing this point with you guys for years. A few years back you guys claimed the Dallas woes were the fault of the defense who was ranked #2 in the NFL because they didn't get enough turnovers. Bottom line is Dallas will lose 10 games this season if the offense doesn't score more than 20 points. That is a fact..............

There was only 4 games yesterday out of the entire NFL where the winner scored 17 or less points. The losing teams in those games were Browns, Jets, Bucs and Cowboys! Do you see anything wrong with the Cowboys being on this list? I certainly do........The average winning score for week #2 in the NFL was 26 points. The average LOSING score was 18 points........................Stop trying to defend a offense that is below average. Raising the expectations for the defense in order to overcome poor offensive numbers doesn't really make any sense.

[Farmersfan]

A good write up by sturm that talks a lot about the running game woes and how that affects the passing game.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/story/Decoding-Callahan-Familiar-Issues-Lead-T?blockID=940785&feedID=10194


I'm thinking he loses all credibility when he claims it's different in Dallas than anywhere else in the NFL.

[Macarthur]

I'm thinking he loses all credibility when he claims it's different in Dallas than anywhere else in the NFL.

I think I'll side with sturm.

[Macarthur]

Yea, we all see where the blind spot is Mac. You even said yourself Romo didn't have a good second half and I showed where Romo was given the ball with 6 minutes left and crapped the bed. Yet you persist in blaming a defense who held the Chiefs to just 3 scores (2 tDs and 1 FG) dispite the fact the Chiefs were given possession inside Dallas territory on two different occasions. Let's continue to expect more and more from our defense while our offense scores below the NFL average every week. I've been arguing this point with you guys for years.


You are misrepresenting my position. You flat out contradict yourself. Yes, I did say the offense is at fault but they are not alone. You simply want to blame romo.

Your misrepresentation of mine and others position is bordering on dishonesty, FF.



.....Stop trying to defend a offense that is below average. Raising the expectations for the defense in order to overcome poor offensive numbers doesn't really make any sense.

Again, you are being dishonest.

[Farmersfan]

I think I'll side with sturm.


Of course you will. And just like him you would be wrong......

[GrTigers6]

Yea, we all see where the blind spot is Mac. You even said yourself Romo didn't have a good second half and I showed where Romo was given the ball with 6 minutes left and crapped the bed. Yet you persist in blaming a defense who held the Chiefs to just 3 scores (2 tDs and 1 FG) dispite the fact the Chiefs were given possession inside Dallas territory on two different occasions. Let's continue to expect more and more from our defense while our offense scores below the NFL average every week. I've been arguing this point with you guys for years. A few years back you guys claimed the Dallas woes were the fault of the defense who was ranked #2 in the NFL because they didn't get enough turnovers. Bottom line is Dallas will lose 10 games this season if the offense doesn't score more than 20 points. That is a fact..............

There was only 4 games yesterday out of the entire NFL where the winner scored 17 or less points. The losing teams in those games were Browns, Jets, Bucs and Cowboys! Do you see anything wrong with the Cowboys being on this list? I certainly do........The average winning score for week #2 in the NFL was 26 points. The average LOSING score was 18 points........................Stop trying to defend a offense that is below average. Raising the expectations for the defense in order to overcome poor offensive numbers doesn't really make any sense.

You are telling Macarthur that he is blaming the defense while you are blaming Romo. The fact of the matter is when push came to shove neither one prevailed. And that is what Mac is saying. Romo didn't get it done, whether its his ribs back or just poor performance it didn't get done. But the Defense did the exact same thing. ball inside the 20 all three timeouts and cant get off the field even when they knew what KC was going to run.

[hookandladder]

FF, you can keep trying but your in a no win situation with Mac, he will defend Romo till the cows come home. Romo is just not a winner, plain and simple. Most all know that except a few and the ignorant owner of the Cowboys.

[Farmersfan]

You are telling Macarthur that he is blaming the defense while you are blaming Romo. The fact of the matter is when push came to shove neither one prevailed. And that is what Mac is saying. Romo didn't get it done, whether its his ribs back or just poor performance it didn't get done. But the Defense did the exact same thing. ball inside the 20 all three timeouts and cant get off the field even when they knew what KC was going to run.



The difference between what I'm saying and what Mac is saying is that I have presented logical and reasonable examples as to why I believe as I do. And just for the record I have NEVER placed 100% of the blame on Romo. I have repeatedly said THE OFFENSE was to blame. Although I do hold him responsible for a large portion (not all of it) of the productivity of the offense as would any person with any ability to reason. As far as the last possession of the Chiefs I guess you just proved the point I am trying to make. If the Cowboys defense had stopped the Chiefs for a 3 and out on the last possession that would mean the Cowboy's defense would have held the Chiefs offense to about 250 total yards on the day, 14 first downs and about 22 minutes of possession time. Every single aspect of the game for this defense would have needed to be near perfect just to give the offense ONE MORE CHANCE to score another point. The ridiculous nonsensical thought that a great defensive game needed to be "just a little bit better" before the team can win and the offense isn't to blame is beyond me. Instead of saying the Offense needs to be better than average apparently you guys are ok with saying the defense needs to be one of the best to cover for the lacking on the offense. Makes no sense to me but ok.

[Farmersfan]

You are misrepresenting my position. You flat out contradict yourself. Yes, I did say the offense is at fault but they are not alone. You simply want to blame romo.

Your misrepresentation of mine and others position is bordering on dishonesty, FF.



Again, you are being dishonest.



I have gone back and read all the comments again Mac. There is no misrepresentation going on: You are trying to place some blame for this loss on the defense and I am saying the defense has ZERO blame for this loss. So where is the misrepresentation?
As far as the other comment about "simply wanting to blame Romo" that is a complete fabrication and i could correctly state that it seems you are making illogical and unsupported claims about the defense in an effort to deflect blame from him. You have argued in Romo's favor over and over again for years so it only seems logical you would try to deflect negative about him now. You spend relentless efforts trying to prove Romo isn't a choke artist as the entire world believes so why wouldn't you defend him on a game where he did exactly that.... CHOKE! But to call me dishonest is a bit insulting and more than a little childish Mac.

[Macarthur]

The difference between what I'm saying and what Mac is saying is that I have presented logical and reasonable examples as to why I believe as I do.

Right....

And for the record, they didn't even have to get a 3 and out there. They actually gave up one first down and still could have gotten the ball back to the offense with time left.

[Macarthur]

FF, you can keep trying but your in a no win situation with Mac, he will defend Romo till the cows come home. Romo is just not a winner, plain and simple. Most all know that except a few and the ignorant owner of the Cowboys.

Dumb. Strawman.

[Farmersfan]

Right....

And for the record, they didn't even have to get a 3 and out there. They actually gave up one first down and still could have gotten the ball back to the offense with time left.


No doubt! If the defense makes the 9th stop in 12 possessions to give the Dallas Offense more time on their 12th possession it would have given Dallas additional opportunity to win the game. So why don't you blame the defense because they didn't make 10 stops in 12 KC possessions? Or better yet if we can get our defense to make 12 out of 12 stops then we don't even need a offense. We can simply send out a FG kicker every time the defense makes a stop inside of FG range.
Nobody is saying that another opportunity wasn't needed by the offense or that the defense couldn't or didn't supply that additional opportunity. What I am saying is that the defense SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN REQUIRED to give them that additional opportunity. We can't blame the defense for a loss because they didn't play like the 85' Bears............

[Macarthur]

What I am saying is that the defense SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN REQUIRED to give them that additional opportunity. We can't blame the defense for a loss because they didn't play like the 85' Bears............

There's a big difference in the defense getting a stop inside 3 minutes when god and everyone knows what they are going to do versus a stop in the 2nd quarter. Not all stops are created equal. You're a smart guy; you know that. All KC wanted to do was turn and hand off the ball and make dallas burn their TOs.

Your reference to the 85 breaks is hyperbole. It's not like the dallas defense was facing the greatest show on turf either.

And to your point about the defense needing another stop...YES! The vast majority of nfl games are very close. Many times it comes down to the last possession. So yes, regardless of how well a defense plays, their 4th quarter goes a long way in determining the winner or loser ( and its the same with the offense).

[Roughneck93]

:dispntd:

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/jamaal-charles-runs-over-morris-claiborne.gif

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Cowboy gets run over by KC #25


:dispntd:

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/jamaal-charles-runs-over-morris-claiborne.gif

what number was it that got ran over?

[GrTigers6]

No doubt! If the defense makes the 9th stop in 12 possessions to give the Dallas Offense more time on their 12th possession it would have given Dallas additional opportunity to win the game. So why don't you blame the defense because they didn't make 10 stops in 12 KC possessions? Or better yet if we can get our defense to make 12 out of 12 stops then we don't even need a offense. We can simply send out a FG kicker every time the defense makes a stop inside of FG range.
Nobody is saying that another opportunity wasn't needed by the offense or that the defense couldn't or didn't supply that additional opportunity. What I am saying is that the defense SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN REQUIRED to give them that additional opportunity. We can't blame the defense for a loss because they didn't play like the 85' Bears............

your problem with that philosophy is that you expect room to come thru in the final drive so why not the defense? You expect our offense to score on 70 percent of their drives so why not make the D make stops on 30 % of theirs?
And for your information KC had 11 drives and scored on 3 of them. Dallas had 11 drives and scored on 4. Difference being Dallas had one TD and KC 2

[GrTigers6]

what number was it that got ran over?

Morris Claiborne 24

[Txbroadcaster]

I'm thinking he loses all credibility when he claims it's different in Dallas than anywhere else in the NFL.

Where does he say that?

[coach]

Im still waiting for the ******* of the downlow to answer my question

[Farmersfan]

And to your point about the defense needing another stop...YES! The vast majority of nfl games are very close. Many times it comes down to the last possession. So yes, regardless of how well a defense plays, their 4th quarter goes a long way in determining the winner or loser ( and its the same with the offense).



This is true Mac. Most games are close. In fact so far this season in the 64 games played only 9 have been won by more than a single score. But here is another stats for you. That leaves 55 games that were decided by less than 1 score but only 7 of those 55 games were won by a team scoring less than 20 points. That is a 13% chance of winning if you score less than 20 points. That's all I have been saying. If your offense doesn't score at least 20 points there can be no blame on the defense because "EVERYBODY AND GOD" knows the other team will score at least 20 points ................................The NFL average so far is 22.5. So the Dallas defense performed well above average by holding the Chiefs to 17 points.

[Farmersfan]

your problem with that philosophy is that you expect room to come thru in the final drive so why not the defense? You expect our offense to score on 70 percent of their drives so why not make the D make stops on 30 % of theirs?
And for your information KC had 11 drives and scored on 3 of them. Dallas had 11 drives and scored on 4. Difference being Dallas had one TD and KC 2


There is so much wrong with your comment I don't really know where to start. First off I have NEVER said I expect Romo to come through on his final drive. I expect Romo to come through more than what is average in the NFL and i expect the defense to come through for more than what is average in the NFL. This is all I have ever said GrTigers6. The NFL average is 22.5 points per game. If the offense simply scores a AVERAGE amount of points in this game the Cowboys get a win. Too many people are expecting the defense to be ABOVE average and excusing the offense for being BELOW average........



"KC had 11 drives and scored on 3 of them. Dallas had 11 drives and scored on 4."

And 2 of those KC drives started in Dallas territory and 1 of those started in FG range (at the 35). Makes for an even more impressive defensive game.

[Farmersfan]

I just went back and counted because I got my own curiosity up and for the entire 2012 regular season there were only 45 games won by a team who scored less than 20 points. That's 45 games out of 256 games played... You do the math.

[GrTigers6]

There is so much wrong with your comment I don't really know where to start. First off I have NEVER said I expect Romo to come through on his final drive. I expect Romo to come through more than what is average in the NFL and i expect the defense to come through for more than what is average in the NFL. This is all I have ever said GrTigers6. The NFL average is 22.5 points per game. If the offense simply scores a AVERAGE amount of points in this game the Cowboys get a win. Too many people are expecting the defense to be ABOVE average and excusing the offense for being BELOW average........




And 2 of those KC drives started in Dallas territory and 1 of those started in FG range (at the 35). Makes for an even more impressive defensive game.So you don't expect Romo to come thru yet you said and I quote, 'Crapped the bed" on his final drive. And how could you not expect him/ the offense to come thru. That's why they put on the pads. But that goes for the defense as well. I don't care about NFL averages. If the offense doesn't score enough to win or the D gives up late points to lose then they didn't perform like the should have.

[Phil C]

The Cowboys lost and knocked me out of the survivor pool. :flaming:

- The Clown Troll

[Farmersfan]

So you don't expect Romo to come thru yet you said and I quote, 'Crapped the bed" on his final drive. And how could you not expect him/ the offense to come thru. That's why they put on the pads. But that goes for the defense as well. I don't care about NFL averages. If the offense doesn't score enough to win or the D gives up late points to lose then they didn't perform like the should have.




Dead horse Grtigers6. My arm is tired from beating on it.

Maybe some of you guys would like to address how the Cowboy's franchise QB who just got a 100 million dollar contract could be ranked #25 in the NFL in Total QBR? Tony Romo has gone from being basically about average (anywhere from #15 to #11) to being #25. What is the difference so far this season compared to previous seasons? I'm saying the difference is the short passing game that is failing to produce the results. No amount of high accuracy rating matters if the productivity numbers are so low. I'm pretty sure this is what I said last week. Over 70% completions mean nothing if you only average 5 yards a thrown and don't score points.
Comments?


http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

[Macarthur]

No question has hasnt been at his best. I would be willing to bet he doesn't finish the year at #25.

You want to bet on that?

[hookandladder]

No question has hasnt been at his best. I would be willing to bet he doesn't finish the year at #25.

You want to bet on that?

A better bet might be , will he finish the year. He is already supposely playing hurt.

[GrTigers6]

Dead horse Grtigers6. My arm is tired from beating on it.

Maybe some of you guys would like to address how the Cowboy's franchise QB who just got a 100 million dollar contract could be ranked #25 in the NFL in Total QBR? Tony Romo has gone from being basically about average (anywhere from #15 to #11) to being #25. What is the difference so far this season compared to previous seasons? I'm saying the difference is the short passing game that is failing to produce the results. No amount of high accuracy rating matters if the productivity numbers are so low. I'm pretty sure this is what I said last week. Over 70% completions mean nothing if you only average 5 yards a thrown and don't score points.
Comments?


http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

That rating is the most retarded thing I have seen. They have Eli Manning rated above Romo with his stats much worse. I mean come on he has thrown 7 INT's in 2 games

[GrTigers6]

A better bet might be , will he finish the year. He is already supposely playing hurt.

Supposedly? Really?

[hookandladder]

Supposedly? Really?

Really, that is what supposely was reported. Just what I heard.

[GrTigers6]

Really, that is what supposely was reported. Just what I heard.

He has bruised ribs is what was reported

[Farmersfan]

That rating is the most retarded thing I have seen. They have Eli Manning rated above Romo with his stats much worse. I mean come on he has thrown 7 INT's in 2 games



Perhaps it is retarded but it is far, far better than the one the NFL uses that has Chad Pennington, Daunte Culpepper and Jeff Garcia as top 20 QBs in the history of the game. And newsflash GrTigers6: There aren't many knowledgeable people in this world who would NOT swap Romo for Manning every day of the week. Would you not?

[Farmersfan]

That rating is the most retarded thing I have seen. They have Eli Manning rated above Romo with his stats much worse. I mean come on he has thrown 7 INT's in 2 games



And he has thrown for over 800 yards in 2 games and is the #2 rated QB in the OTHER rating system...... He damn near beat the Cowboys even with 6 turnovers!

[hookandladder]

Perhaps it is retarded but it is far, far better than the one the NFL uses that has Chad Pennington, Daunte Culpepper and Jeff Garcia as top 20 QBs in the history of the game. And newsflash GrTigers6: There aren't many knowledgeable people in this world who would NOT swap Romo for Manning every day of the week. Would you not?

I'd take Manning any day of the week for Romo, that is a no brainer.

[Txbroadcaster]

And he has thrown for over 800 yards in 2 games and is the #2 rated QB in the OTHER rating system...... He damn near beat the Cowboys even with 6 turnovers!


he is not 2nd he is 25th....and btw Romo ALMOST beat the Giants last year when they had 5 turnovers

[Farmersfan]

he is not 2nd he is 25th....and btw Romo ALMOST beat the Giants last year when they had 5 turnovers



You never learn do you? Eli Manning is now #3 in the NFL with 812 yards behind Aaron Rogers and M. Vick (who has 3 games). And BTW: Tony Romo is #17 with almost 300 fewer yards.


http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&season=2013&seasonType=REG

[Macarthur]

Yards is your measuring stick?

Sort that chart by rating and see what happens.

[Txbroadcaster]

You never learn do you? Eli Manning is now #3 in the NFL with 812 yards behind Aaron Rogers and M. Vick (who has 3 games). And BTW: Tony Romo is #17 with almost 300 fewer yards.


http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&season=2013&seasonType=REG

you said other way they rank QB which we ALL know is the rating that NFL uses and your not dumb so I know you knew that when you made the comment...so last year Romo's yards did not matter cause of ints...but now hey yards matter over ints?

[coach]

you said other way they rank QB which we ALL know is the rating that NFL uses and your not dumb so I know you knew that when you made the comment...so last year Romo's yards did not matter cause of ints...but now hey yards matter over ints?

No, he simply expects romo to be perfect and **** gold. I have never seen a grown man sit behind a computer and nit pick and everyl little mistake one man makes and yet refuses to give credit. He had 0 posts last week when romo played good and won. Only comes out on a loss and always blames romo. #chickenshit

[Saggy Aggie]

We all know FF picks and chooses which stats he wants to use and when he wants to use them to fit his agenda.