Cowboys vs Giants

[Roughneck93]

Kickoff coming up. :cheerl:

Does Eli continue his dominance at AT&T Stadium?

Dallas by 1. :)

[Saggy Aggie]

Ready to see the cowpies fans get their hopes up and then hopefully romo can crap the bed like usual

[orange machine]

Ready to see the cowpies fans get their hopes up and then hopefully romo can crap the bed like usual

Not gonna happen Cowboys will dominate this year. Defense is gonna have a huge year and Dez Bryant has grown up and will take over!

[Roughneck93]

I want to see a damn successful running game. :flaming:

[coach]

I want to see a damn successful running game. :flaming:

Over under 10 posts by ff blaming romo?

[Roughneck93]

Over under 10 posts by ff blaming romo?

Over...

[Saggy Aggie]

Over under 10 posts by ff blaming romo?

Lol best post of the day

[Roughneck93]

DWare...:cheerl:

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Go Giants!

[defense51]

DWare...:cheerl:

He's gonna have a big year at DE!

[defense51]

Over under 10 posts by ff blaming romo?
I'm taking 15-18

[Roughneck93]

Nice...:clap:

[Roughneck93]

Wow...another turnover!

Come on Dallas, we need TDs.

[defense51]

Wow...another turnover!

Come on Dallas, we need TDs.

Cowboys need to capitalize on these turnovers and put points on the board !

[Roughneck93]

Well damn...:ack!:

[coach]

Passing game is out of sync. Need to establish the run. Romo looks inaccurate which is uncommon for him. His mistakes are usually forced, but has missed 3 times on throws tonight. Terrance didn't know what the hell was going on lol.

[Saggy Aggie]

Cowboys D looks great. 3 turnovers and a goal line stand on 1st and goal inside the 1. Doesn't get any better than that.

And as beast as the D has been, the offense looks terrible. Mainly romo... Murray and the oline are playing well so far

[coach]

Cowboys D looks great. 3 turnovers and a goal line stand on 1st and goal inside the 1. Doesn't get any better than that.

And as beast as the D has been, the offense looks terrible. Mainly romo... Murray and the oline are playing well so far

Miles has looked good too. 5 catches so far.

[Roughneck93]

Miles Austin looking good.

Just stay healthy.

[coach]

Red zone woes continue. Passing game looking atrocious. Still need to establish the run. Get Murray in a little bit of rhythm.

[Saggy Aggie]

True, but dez has been MIA???

[coach]

True, but dez has been MIA???

Giants are doing a good job of press coverage with a safety over the top. Letting miles beat them. Just wait until miles bust a slant for a td and that will stop.

[Roughneck93]

Yes!!!

[defense51]

Witten is a stud!

[Saggy Aggie]

Witten is a stud!

Good catch, but also a nice back shoulder throw. Best throw of the game so far for romo

[defense51]

Good catch, but also a nice back shoulder throw. Best throw of the game so far for romo

It was an excellent throw, exactly where only Witten could catch it.

[Roughneck93]

What the hell...

[defense51]

What the hell...

Allen had no clue on that play

[Saggy Aggie]

Shoulda called a TO. Defense was lost and gives up a bomb because of it

[Roughneck93]

Oh damn...:dispntd:

[Saggy Aggie]

Uh oh...

[Blastoderm55]

Romo and Free both got destroyed on that play. Hasn't he had rib injuries before?

[defense51]

Romo and Free both got destroyed on that play. Hasn't he had rib injuries before?

Free was airborne for a second or two! :eek:

[Roughneck93]

Romo and Free both got destroyed on that play. Hasn't he had rib injuries before?

Yeah in 2011. Broken rib and punctured lung.

[Roughneck93]

Well good news right there for Romo.

Lol, look at Free in the background...

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/romo-sandwiched-during-giants-game.gif

[Roughneck93]

Awesome!

[YTBulldogs]

Ware should would look nice in a Texan uni. Same old Boy's. :weeping:

[defense51]

Other than the long pass play, Cowboys D looks good and are making plays!

[orange machine]

Cowboys will have the number one defense this year.

[Roughneck93]

Another turnover...nice!

[Bullaholic]

Seems like the Cowboys are reluctant to take shots at the end zone every time they get in the red zone. They just chip and chip away and may or may not come away with 3.

[Roughneck93]

Witten!!!

[defense51]

Witten!!!

Again!

[Saggy Aggie]

Damn the cowboys D is raw. And witten still has it.

Despite the fact that they just gave up a TD, the cowboys D has looked great tonight and that's coming from a texans fan. The defense is gonna be in the top 5 in the league this year

[Roughneck93]

Again!

:ack!:

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/jason-witten-puking-during-giants-game.gif

[orange machine]

:ack!:

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/jason-witten-puking-during-giants-game.gif
Crap he is barfing I saw thought and thought he was dipping.

[coach]

Damn the cowboys D is raw. And witten still has it.

Despite the fact that they just gave up a TD, the cowboys D has looked great tonight and that's coming from a texans fan. The defense is gonna be in the top 5 in the league this year

I'm sorry

[Roughneck93]

Damn, Giants made that look easy.

[orange machine]

Damn, Giants made that look easy.

Just took what the defense gave them. That was all Eli being a great veteran qb.

[orange machine]

Great time for the oline to crap out!

[Roughneck93]

That's ball game!!!

[Blastoderm55]

Haha! Eli's running backs did him in tonight.

[defense51]

Great tackling effort by Eli :clap:

[coach]

Anybody know if mo Claiborne is ok?

[Roughneck93]

Anybody know if mo Claiborne is ok?

Yeah he's back in there.

[coach]

Just saw him. Can't afford to lose him?

[orange machine]

Cowboys got to get better on offense. Without all the turnovers Giants probably win.

[Blastoderm55]

Cowboys got to get better on offense. Without all the turnovers Giants probably win.

No doubt. Just goes to show how valuable an opportunistic defense is. Fumble and a pick returned for TDs right?

[Saggy Aggie]

Cowboys D overall looked great for the first game, even while missing Ratliff and spencer

[Macarthur]

Defense did well at times and looked rough at times but Eli really has our number so we just needed to get the win.

I thought the running game was at least respectable. Should pay dividends. Waters should be ready for next week so the OL should be better.

[Roughneck93]

Lol, I love it...

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/eli-manning-does-care.gif

[cougartino]

The Good - Cowboys won
The Bad - We almost gave it away
The Ugly - O line as a group was inconsistent. Free and right guard are pathetic.

[Indian 1985]

The nickname 'Cardiac Cowboys' is well earned!
But, a win is a win!

[1971Coogs]

First time in a long time I watched every play of the entire game and didn't fall asleep on the Cowboys.

[bobcat1]

Doug set 'em Free needs to be released. That was a linebacker that sent him flying through the air like a nerf ball. Bernadeau needs to be on the streets too. Kiwanuka led with the crown of his helmet to the ribs.

Had it not been for the Giants, the Cowboys would have lost.

[Saggy Aggie]

Doug set 'em Free needs to be released. That was a linebacker that sent him flying through the air like a nerf ball. Bernadeau needs to be on the streets too. Kiwanuka led with the crown of his helmet to the ribs.

Had it not been for the Giants, the Cowboys would have lost.

Are you not allowed to lead with your helmet as long as it's not helmet to helmet or a defenseless receiver? Looked like a good football hit to me

[bobcat1]

Are you not allowed to lead with your helmet as long as it's not helmet to helmet or a defenseless receiver? Looked like a good football hit to me

It was a good hit to me. I just figured they would call it a spear.

[Farmersfan]

I'm thinking the league needs to address the play where the linebacker took a run at Free and knocked him off his block. I can't imagine this is a legal play. Taking a run at and hitting another player who isn't being tackled or blocked is almost always called a penalty. And dispite a very, very mediocre performance by the offense the Cowboys still got the win. All I can say is Romo and this offense cannot expect 6 turnovers from every opponent so they better figure out how to put it in the endzone.

[Macarthur]

I'm thinking the league needs to address the play where the linebacker took a run at Free and knocked him off his block. I can't imagine this is a legal play. Taking a run at and hitting another player who isn't being tackled or blocked is almost always called a penalty. And dispite a very, very mediocre performance by the offense the Cowboys still got the win. All I can say is Romo and this offense cannot expect 6 turnovers from every opponent so they better figure out how to put it in the endzone.

I agree. Had free been a wr, that would have been a penalty. How is it any different to target an OL whose attention is focused elsewhere?

[Farmersfan]

I agree. Had free been a wr, that would have been a penalty. How is it any different to target an OL whose attention is focused elsewhere?



If the purpose of a hit isn't to block or tackle then it is almost always illegal. I can't think of another player on player hit that isn't meant to block or tackle that is allowed. Can you?

[Bullaholic]

Glad the Cowboys got the win, but they are not near ready for SF, Green Bay, or Seattle. Offense still looks like a sandlot team on a lot of plays. Secondary doesn't know their assignments that well yet. Athleticism will only carry them so far---game savvy is missing a lot.

[Farmersfan]

Glad the Cowboys got the win, but they are not near ready for SF, Green Bay, or Seattle. Offense still looks like a sandlot team on a lot of plays. Secondary doesn't know their assignments that well yet. Athleticism will only carry them so far---game savvy is missing a lot.


I had a co-worker who was at the game last night. He said the Cowboys offense played almost entirely within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. He said the Giants D-backs were hardly ever deeper than 20 yards because the Cowboys never sent a receiver deep. Perhaps it was the game plan from the beginning because they knew they would have issues with the Giants front 4 against our O-line. Of course Manning had issues with the Dallas defensive front 4 and almost beat the Cowboys even with 6 turnovers. Eli would have scored 50 points or more if he was given 6 turnovers by his defense..................

[Macarthur]

If the purpose of a hit isn't to block or tackle then it is almost always illegal. I can't think of another player on player hit that isn't meant to block or tackle that is allowed. Can you?

Nope.

[Macarthur]

I had a co-worker who was at the game last night. He said the Cowboys offense played almost entirely within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. He said the Giants D-backs were hardly ever deeper than 20 yards because the Cowboys never sent a receiver deep. Perhaps it was the game plan from the beginning because they knew they would have issues with the Giants front 4 against our O-line. Of course Manning had issues with the Dallas defensive front 4 and almost beat the Cowboys even with 6 turnovers. Eli would have scored 50 points or more if he was given 6 turnovers by his defense..................

I would think that the game plan would be to get the ball out of romo's hand pretty quickly.

Obviously, the defense has something's to figure out on the deep balls. Some major breakdowns there. However, the cowboys should not face many WR tandems as good as Cruz and hicks. Those two are really good.

[GrTigers6]

Both the offense and defense looked really good at times. Both had their bad times as well. For the most part the defense held very well but still managed to give up 450 yards in the air. That definitely needs to be fixed. The offense looked like an engine that has a fuel pump problem. Flowing good then choking down. Hopefully first game jitters and bugs that need worked out. Only time will tell if that is the case or if nothing has changed and this offense still is mediocre. We will see when Waters comes in to play if that helps the offense click better. I have a feeling a little better consistency in blocking up front might help along with Williams getting over his rookie nerves.

[coach]

I'm thinking the league needs to address the play where the linebacker took a run at Free and knocked him off his block. I can't imagine this is a legal play. Taking a run at and hitting another player who isn't being tackled or blocked is almost always called a penalty. And dispite a very, very mediocre performance by the offense the Cowboys still got the win. All I can say is Romo and this offense cannot expect 6 turnovers from every opponent so they better figure out how to put it in the endzone.

I agree. The was a total cheap shot. thats gotta be illegal. The offense just looked out of sync. I will say they did good enough to get the job done, but its nowhere near the expectations this team has for the offense. Gutty performance by Romo. You could tell it was more than the wind being knocked out of him.

[Macarthur]

On another board, a guy that went to the game posted that it was amazing the contrast in coverage. He said ny did a great job of coverage and romo had very very few open recievers and very small windows. On the other hand, Eli had open receivers running free all night long. Defense has got to tighten that up.

[Macarthur]

Here's another thing. We like to bitch about winning with style points but the reality is that a win in the nfl is a win. Anyone remember the giants game last year where we started horribly and got down by like 23 points? We were a Dez fingernail away from winning that game. I'm sure the giants wondered how they got in that spot.

NE barely got by buffalo. Oakland almost took down Indy. It's the nfl and games rarely go by the script.

[Farmersfan]

On another board, a guy that went to the game posted that it was amazing the contrast in coverage. He said ny did a great job of coverage and romo had very very few open recievers and very small windows. On the other hand, Eli had open receivers running free all night long. Defense has got to tighten that up.



Based on Romo's struggles to find an open receiver the Giants must have 5 or 6 Pro Bowlers in their defensive backfield............................. Or maybe it was simply a case of the Cowboy's offensive scheme not being a very good one. And even when the Cowboys had wide open receivers Romo didn't see them or was too busy getting his ribs broken.

[Farmersfan]

Here's another thing. We like to bitch about winning with style points but the reality is that a win in the nfl is a win. Anyone remember the giants game last year where we started horribly and got down by like 23 points? We were a Dez fingernail away from winning that game. I'm sure the giants wondered how they got in that spot.

NE barely got by buffalo. Oakland almost took down Indy. It's the nfl and games rarely go by the script.


Yes but in the end of it all New England will still be standing as an elite team and Buffalo will be below .500 just as expected. Oakland will struggle to win 5 games and Indy will be in the mix just as most predict. Tampa Bay is projected to be much improved and the Jets are expected to suck this season, and guess what? Despite the jets winning yesterday they will still suck once the final whistle blows and we add up the wins and losses. I will take the lucky bounces and the near misses for the Cowboys because those games are required to offset the loses they will suffer because of big mistakes by the primary components of the team. Last season the Cowboys probably STOLE 3 games that they normally wouldn't win and managed only a 8-8 season. Why was that? Well, I'll tell you why since you asked: There were at least 3 loses that the Cowboys should have won but couldn't overcome the mistakes by their QB. So in order to become a next level team they must steal those games and NOT GIVE AWAY the other games to even it out. That's why so many people bitch about performances like last night even in a win. It doesn't breed much confidence for the future possibilities for the team...... And guess what the fans are saying in New England right now? And they have had a way, way, way more successful previous decade.

[Roughneck93]

X-rays negative on Tony's ribs.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/9654871/tony-romo-dallas-cowboys-bruised-ribs

[Cam]

X-rays negative on Tony's ribs.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/9654871/tony-romo-dallas-cowboys-bruised-ribs

....much to the chagrin of farmersfan!.....:spitlol:

[Roughneck93]

....much to the chagrin of farmersfan!.....:spitlol:

Lol...

[Txbroadcaster]

Based on Romo's struggles to find an open receiver the Giants must have 5 or 6 Pro Bowlers in their defensive backfield............................. Or maybe it was simply a case of the Cowboy's offensive scheme not being a very good one. And even when the Cowboys had wide open receivers Romo didn't see them or was too busy getting his ribs broken.


He completed 73% so he did not struggle to much

[Farmersfan]

He completed 73% so he did not struggle to much


73% completion ratio for a 5.4 yard per completion average which is the #30 ranked average in the NFL. The only two QBs in the entire NFL worse than Romo this week in yards per completion were Blaine Gabbert and a QB that got 1 pass attempt in relief..................... BTW: The 4th highest paid QB in the NFL was ranked #20 in QB rating this week and that QB rating was padded with that ridiculous short passing game that I just mentioned. And did you even watch the game? Romo struggled for most of the game. He wasn't sharp at all. Here is the REALITY of the QB position in Dallas. When Romo was on offense every single person in the entire universe who was watching that game expected a mistake that would turn the tide against the Cowboys. On the flip side of that when Eli got the ball for the last time there wasn't a living football fan in the world that doubted that Eli would go get another score to win the game. Neither happened thank goodness but these are the perceptions that these QBs have built for themselves. There is a reason why people think this way about Romo and it certainly isn't because someone in media just decided to make it up.........................

[Farmersfan]

....much to the chagrin of farmersfan!.....:spitlol:


I must protest Cam! I have ZERO desire for the Cowboys to be forced to play Kyle Orton. My desire for Romo to be gone is contingent on them actually getting another QB that is capable of doing the job. If the choices are ONLY Orton or Romo then give me Romo every time.....

[Macarthur]

73% completion ratio for a 5.4 yard per completion average which is the #30 ranked average in the NFL. The only two QBs in the entire NFL worse than Romo this week in yards per completion were Blaine Gabbert and a QB that got 1 pass attempt in relief..................... BTW: The 4th highest paid QB in the NFL was ranked #20 in QB rating this week and that QB rating was padded with that ridiculous short passing game that I just mentioned. And did you even watch the game? Romo struggled for most of the game. He wasn't sharp at all. Here is the REALITY of the QB position in Dallas. When Romo was on offense every single person in the entire universe who was watching that game expected a mistake that would turn the tide against the Cowboys. On the flip side of that when Eli got the ball for the last time there wasn't a living football fan in the world that doubted that Eli would go get another score to win the game. Neither happened thank goodness but these are the perceptions that these QBs have built for themselves. There is a reason why people think this way about Romo and it certainly isn't because someone in media just decided to make it up.........................

This discussion is tired. Neither of us are going to change each others mind, but that doesn't change the fact you are wrong. :p

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1321648-a-fans-perspective-on-whether-or-not-tony-romo-deserves-the-criticism-he-gets

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4696976/do-stats-lie-no-qb-better-than-tony-romo-in-fourth-quarter


http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/tony-romo-choke-artist-or-not/8831/

[Macarthur]

Yes, the national perception on romo is wrong. And you're going to use some idiotic poll by players and, yes, it's bogus too.

[Txbroadcaster]

73% completion ratio for a 5.4 yard per completion average which is the #30 ranked average in the NFL. The only two QBs in the entire NFL worse than Romo this week in yards per completion were Blaine Gabbert and a QB that got 1 pass attempt in relief..................... BTW: The 4th highest paid QB in the NFL was ranked #20 in QB rating this week and that QB rating was padded with that ridiculous short passing game that I just mentioned. And did you even watch the game? Romo struggled for most of the game. ................


So let me get this straight...your saying it was bad that Romo took what the D gave him and was patient and did not force things??..The Giants were not going to let Dallas beat them with Dez..so they bracketed him all game..so Romo used Austin, Witten and the backs to move the ball...you cannot have it both ways FF..gripe when he forces things and then gripe when he does not.

[Farmersfan]

Yes, the national perception on romo is wrong. And you're going to use some idiotic poll by players and, yes, it's bogus too.



I guess I can't argue with that! :vrycnfsd:

[Macarthur]

So let me get this straight...your saying it was bad that Romo took what the D gave him and was patient and did not force things??..The Giants were not going to let Dallas beat them with Dez..so they bracketed him all game..so Romo used Austin, Witten and the backs to move the ball...you cannot have it both ways FF..gripe when he forces things and then gripe when he does not.

Not only bracket, broaddus said his film work showed that much of the time not only did they have a safety over the top but they even had a LBer under neith. So on some plays he was actually getting triple coverage

[Macarthur]

I guess I can't argue with that! :vrycnfsd:

:crazy1:

[Farmersfan]

So let me get this straight...your saying it was bad that Romo took what the D gave him and was patient and did not force things??..The Giants were not going to let Dallas beat them with Dez..so they bracketed him all game..so Romo used Austin, Witten and the backs to move the ball...you cannot have it both ways FF..gripe when he forces things and then gripe when he does not.



You give me credit for saying a lot of things I didn't say TXB. Apparently you are having two conversations and got them confused. And in case you aren't aware of it let me just tell you that an opposing defense is designed to BEAT YOU. No quality team ever seeks to "Take what the D gives them"....... If they do they lose more often than not. But maybe that's the problem in Dallas?

[Farmersfan]

Not only bracket, broaddus said his film work showed that much of the time not only did they have a safety over the top but they even had a LBer under neith. So on some plays he was actually getting triple coverage


And Dez got 2 catches in the game because of it. But were the other 2, 3 or 4 receivers also triple covered? My point is this Giants team isn't as good defensively as the Cowboys allowed them to look. They cannot cover the entire field and triple cover Dez at the same time. Being able to drop 6 or 7 back into coverage and rush only 4 is huge but there are still mismatches on the field that favor the Cowboys when that happens. The fact that the Cowboys didn't score 50 points off of 6 turnovers indicates Romo never managed to find those mismatches for whatever reason. Stop making excuses for the guy. He did not have a good game. Period!

[Txbroadcaster]

You give me credit for saying a lot of things I didn't say TXB. Apparently you are having two conversations and got them confused. And in case you aren't aware of it let me just tell you that an opposing defense is designed to BEAT YOU. No quality team ever seeks to "Take what the D gives them"....... If they do they lose more often than not. But maybe that's the problem in Dallas?

uhh that was the whole philosophy of the triplet era FF..If they put 8 in the box Aikman, Irvin and Novacek would beat you..if you played coverage..Smith would you beat you..ALL offenses go after the weakness of the defensive game plan..for this game Giants were willing to give up the underneath stuff and Dallas took it...in the past( such as the Stadium opener vs Giants) Romo would not be patient and start chucking it into coverage.

[Txbroadcaster]

And Dez got 2 catches in the game because of it. But were the other 2, 3 or 4 receivers also triple covered? !


no they were not..reason why Romo completed 73% of his passes...and not like he threw it only 15 times..73% out of 49 attempts.

[Macarthur]

And Dez got 2 catches in the game because of it. But were the other 2, 3 or 4 receivers also triple covered? My point is this Giants team isn't as good defensively as the Cowboys allowed them to look. They cannot cover the entire field and triple cover Dez at the same time. Being able to drop 6 or 7 back into coverage and rush only 4 is huge but there are still mismatches on the field that favor the Cowboys when that happens. The fact that the Cowboys didn't score 50 points off of 6 turnovers indicates Romo never managed to find those mismatches for whatever reason. Stop making excuses for the guy. He did not have a good game. Period!

Depends on what is a good game. He certainly has been better. He had an okay game for him.

It really is amazing though how you manipulate everything, and I do mean everything, into being on romo.

Sure, he didn't have a great game. He was rusty, but he had a pass picked because of a lost rookie and 2 other drops by that rookie which would have pushed his completion % over 75%, yet all you can do is complain about him not scoring 50.

And isn't it interesting how you use the giants defense isn't that good comment to support your point. We really don't know how good they are yet, but they've led the team to 2 SBs in 5 years.

[Txbroadcaster]

I don't think he had a good game.

It really is amazing though how you manipulate everything, and I do mean everything, into being on romo.

Sure, he didn't have a great game. He was rusty, but he had a pass picked because of a lost rookie and 2 other drops by that rookie which would have pushed his completion % over 75%, yet all you can do is complain about him not scoring 50.

And isn't it interesting how you use the giants defense isn't that good comment to support your point. We really don't know how good they are yet, but they've led the team to 2 SBs in 5 years.

I think he had an efficient night..one of those games a QB will see more often than not that the best way to precede is to be patient and dont be stupid.

[Farmersfan]

uhh that was the whole philosophy of the triplet era FF..If they put 8 in the box Aikman, Irvin and Novacek would beat you..if you played coverage..Smith would you beat you..ALL offenses go after the weakness of the defensive game plan..for this game Giants were willing to give up the underneath stuff and Dallas took it...in the past( such as the Stadium opener vs Giants) Romo would not be patient and start chucking it into coverage.




Uhhh really? You believe the Cowboys of the early 90's sat back and waited for the defense to show their weaknesses? You seriously don't remember very well. The Cowboys did what they wanted to do and if the defense committed to stopping that they would swtich to something else. What you are claiming with Romo is that he accepted the LIMITED opportunities for success that the Giants were willing to allow him. That's a losers mentality and it almost got them beat. And I repeat: If this Dallas offense was so inefficient that the Giants were able to dictate to them then there isn't much hope for this season. But i suspect this was just one game where Romo wasn't seeing the field very well or the Giants, by hook or crook, had his primary target blanketed on every single play and this won't happen very often in the future. If it does then they are sunk.........................49 attempts for just 244 yards (5.0 yard average) isn't going to win very many games unless the defense can provide 14 points and 6 turnovers too! I wouldn't expect that very often either.

[Farmersfan]

Depends on what is a good game. He certainly has been better. He had an okay game for him.

It really is amazing though how you manipulate everything, and I do mean everything, into being on romo.

Sure, he didn't have a great game. He was rusty, but he had a pass picked because of a lost rookie and 2 other drops by that rookie which would have pushed his completion % over 75%, yet all you can do is complain about him not scoring 50.

And isn't it interesting how you use the giants defense isn't that good comment to support your point. We really don't know how good they are yet, but they've led the team to 2 SBs in 5 years.


The Giants defense was ranked #31 last season Mac. If you chose to go back 3 years then that is your business. And even those Superbowl teams didn't have dominating defenses.................

[Macarthur]

The Giants defense was ranked #31 last season Mac. If you chose to go back 3 years then that is your business. And even those Superbowl teams didn't have dominating defenses.................

Those giant teams were in the SB because of the pressure their front put on teams. If you aaren't willing to admit that, you are not approaching the discussion in an honest manner.

[Macarthur]

The Cowboys probably won't face a better collection than this all season:
Jpp
Tuck
Rogers
Joseph
Jenkins
Kiwanuka
Patterson.

[GrTigers6]

Uhhh really? You believe the Cowboys of the early 90's sat back and waited for the defense to show their weaknesses? You seriously don't remember very well. The Cowboys did what they wanted to do and if the defense committed to stopping that they would swtich to something else. What you are claiming with Romo is that he accepted the LIMITED opportunities for success that the Giants were willing to allow him. That's a losers mentality and it almost got them beat. And I repeat: If this Dallas offense was so inefficient that the Giants were able to dictate to them then there isn't much hope for this season. But i suspect this was just one game where Romo wasn't seeing the field very well or the Giants, by hook or crook, had his primary target blanketed on every single play and this won't happen very often in the future. If it does then they are sunk.........................49 attempts for just 244 yards (5.0 yard average) isn't going to win very many games unless the defense can provide 14 points and 6 turnovers too! I wouldn't expect that very often either.Uh Romo did not give up 31 points. The defense did. So the defense nearly got them beat. You have a one track mind that is anti Romo.