Split Division Vote Passes

[Matthew328]

per Carl Padilla this will be a go in 2014

[Old Tiger]

Well I be damn...

[slingshot]

Bummer for anyone in West Texas... better go ahead and buy that Prius--gonna be some long road trips.

[Matthew328]

Bummer for anyone in West Texas... better go ahead and buy that Prius--gonna be some long road trips.


I'll be real interested to see what they do w/El Paso

[LHPfactory]

per Carl Padilla this will be a go in 2014

Is this going to be under the 6A or 7A version ?

[buckeyebob]

What is the SWAG for the cut number...figure we will be one of the largest Div II or the smallest Div I...I say we will be @ 650.

[Matthew328]

Is this going to be under the 6A or 7A version ?

6A version

[LHPfactory]

6A version

So is it pretty much a done deal and we will be going to a split division 6A system and 7A is no longer on the table?

[lostaussie]

Will this bring a chance that some of the bigger 2A teams could be coming back to 3A?

[LHPfactory]

Will this bring a chance that some of the bigger 2A teams could be coming back to 3A?

Actually I think small 3A and big 2A may be together in the new 3A.

and

The current Mid to Big 3A will combine with some of the currently Small 4A teams to make the new 4A....

Matt would better be able to give us an idea what the numbers will look like.

[TarponFanInNorthTexas]

Will be very interesting to see how exactly this plays out, especially for Port Isabel. They turned in 615 this realignment and are expected to have around 600 at the next alignment (numbers going down slightly) so they'll be right at the cusp between the new 3A and 4A.

[SHSBulldog00]

When I talked with Carl in January he said the cut would be

D1 676 - 1004

D2 450 - 675

I'm not sure if he made any tweaks since then.

[Matthew328]

When I talked with Carl in January he said the cut would be

D1 676 - 1004

D2 450 - 675

I'm not sure if he made any tweaks since then.

I think the cut will be a little higher at the top...maybe towards 1040

[lostaussie]

When I talked with Carl in January he said the cut would be

D1 676 - 1004

D2 450 - 675

I'm not sure if he made any tweaks since then.D2 450 - 675 I like this:D

[LHPfactory]

When I talked with Carl in January he said the cut would be

D1 676 - 1004

D2 450 - 675

I'm not sure if he made any tweaks since then.

That is the same for the current 2012-2014 numbers, 3A is running 450-1004.

2012-2014 UIL Realignment cutoff numbers:
Here are the cutoff numbers the UIL used to determine the classifications for this last realignment

5A: 2090+ (245 schools)
4A: 2089-1005 (250)
3A: 1004-450 (190)
2A: 449-200 (235)
1A/6M: >199.

If this is so then there will be little movement and 3A simply becomes 4A. Also 4A will then have the least amount of schools (just as 3A does now).

Clarify this for me Matt, Next alignment will 4A be like current 2A and be split DI and DII from the get go or will it be at the play offs?

[Matthew328]

The next alignment the following classes will be split from the get go

2A, 3A, 4A

5A and 6A will be split at the playoffs

[LHPfactory]

The next alignment the following classes will be split from the get go

2A, 3A, 4A

5A and 6A will be split at the playoffs

K, thanks... The confusion is fading and its starting to make sense.

Also, how come they dont average the numbers from current 2A thru 5A (920 schools total) and put an even number in each:

6A = 230

5A = 230

4A = 230

3A = 230. ?

[NastySlot]

Bummer for anyone in West Texas... better go ahead and buy that Prius--gonna be some long road trips.

could be a problem for some....looking the Padilla projections/predictions....the Wimberley Boerne dist just loses Navarro. So I guess hill country 4A D1 no problems.

[LHPfactory]

could be a problem for some....looking the Padilla projections/predictions....the Wimberley Boerne dist just loses Navarro. So I guess hill country 4A D1 no problems.

No, from what the mock realignment someone put here form old coach it looks LH could be in a District with:

LH
Lampasas
Burnet
Taylor
Austin Reagan
Austin Eastside Memorial,

wow we may be playing at Nelson field.......

[Matthew328]

No, from what the mock realignment someone put here form old coach it looks LH could be in a District with:

LH
Lampasas
Burnet
Taylor
Austin Reagan
Austin Eastside Memorial,

wow we may be playing at Nelson field.......


Reagan and Eastside could easily opt up thus throwing that into a mess..lots of real interesting scenarios

For those who like reading here's the official UIL document regarding the rule changes...page 18 discusses split divisions

http://www.uiltexas.org/files/policy/ccr-rule-changes-2013-2014.pdf

[BEAST]

Reagan and Eastside could easily opt up thus throwing that into a mess..lots of real interesting scenarios

For those who like reading here's the official UIL document regarding the rule changes...page 18 discusses split divisions

http://www.uiltexas.org/files/policy/ccr-rule-changes-2013-2014.pdf

Matt,

Thoughts on where Brownwood will end up.



BEAST

[Ville-D]

Matt,

Thoughts on where Brownwood will end up.



BEAST


I heard they were going to stop playing football in Brownwood... :wave:

[LHPfactory]

Matt,

Thoughts on where Brownwood will end up.



BEAST

Its hard to say, I can see Matts point with Reagan and Eastside wanting to stay in a District with the other AISD schools.

That leaves LH, Lampasas, Burnet, and depending on the top cap on 4A-DI, (Marble Falls will be the wild card being around 1100 enrollement).
If MF comes in I know UIL would likely put The above 4 together due to close proximity and size.

That would leave 2 to 3 other spots in this district... They could be filled by Gatesville and Brownwood, Taylor and Gatesville, Gatesville and China Spring.
If no Marble Falls I could also see LH, Burnet, Lampasas with Brownood, Gatesville, and China Spring......

If Brownwood stays north, then you they will likely be with Stephenville, Alvarado, and such, that would also be a tuff district for sure.

[buckeyebob]

Matt,

Thoughts on where Brownwood will end up.BEAST



Based on todays numbers and a 650 cut:

Smallest Div I
WOS 686
FERRIS 679
GAINESVILLE 676
ARGYLE 668
GRAHAM 668
BELLVILLE 665
PITTSBURG 660
GIDDINGS 656.5
VAN 655

Largest Div II
SEMINOLE 645
GILMER 631
BRIDGEPORT 628
HONDO 627.5
CENTER 624
DALLAS ROOSEVELT 624
RIO HONDO 622
PORT ISABEL 617.5

[Matthew328]

Matt,

Thoughts on where Brownwood will end up.



BEAST

Brownwood's a swing school could go in any direction really.....

[pancho villa]

LaMarque had a snapshot last week 640 and falling.

[Matthew328]

LaMarque will be D2 for sure

[CTS]

LaMarque had a snapshot last week 640 and falling.


648 as of last week...not falling....holding pretty steady. LM will more than likely be right around 650 wherever that puts them.

[slingshot]

Brownwood's a swing school could go in any direction really.....

??? They've got 900 plus kids...

[LHPfactory]

??? They've got 900 plus kids...

He means district wise, they are a solid 4A-DI no doubt, but they could be in a district up north with Alvarado and Stephenville or in the Hill Country with LH and Burnet.

[Matthew328]

He means district wise, they are a solid 4A-DI no doubt, but they could be in a district up north with Alvarado and Stephenville or in the Hill Country with LH and Burnet.

Brownwood could also go west w/Abilene Wylie, Big Spring, Snyder et al...they could also go east into a Waco district

[BwdLion73]

If we go West we better start getting our car pool plans together.
If we go hill country we need to get grill guards for the deer.
However if we go East we should pick up some team speed.

[Twirling Time]

If the cutoff is 650, get ready for a Gilmer-Celina state final the next few years.

[buckeyebob]

I heard they were going to stop playing football in Brownwood... :wave:

I thought they already had.

[regaleagle]

Yeah, no more worries about Argyle now, huh? I don't see Argyle's enrollment going down anytime soon. Gilmer-Argyle will have its last possible regional showdown in 2013. Our team will consist of lots of Jrs. ans Srs. next season, but there's no telling what division either team will play in.....if we both make the playoffs. Just hoping for a relatively injury-free season so the boyz can give it their best shot.

[BwdLion73]

:stirpot::rolleyes:
I thought they already had.

[buckeyebob]

Yeah, no more worries about Argyle now, huh? I don't see Argyle's enrollment going down anytime soon. Gilmer-Argyle will have its last possible regional showdown in 2013. Our team will consist of lots of Jrs. ans Srs. next season, but there's no telling what division either team will play in.....if we both make the playoffs. Just hoping for a relatively injury-free season so the boyz can give it their best shot.

No worries on who we play...tougher the better...Gilmer with 631 now will probably be 650+ this fall & 668 for Argyle...looks like a possible.

2013 will be Div 2 for us (Kilgore 964.5, Chapel Hill 961, & Hennason 888)...surely two will make it to the top 4. 2013 will be some good Srs., bunch of Jr.s & Sophs...new D & O lines with possibilty of some Fresh players...most skill guys return...we will see how 7on7 does...heading your way to McKinney Nike Tourn in June & we have a SQT this year in June...maybe get Celina down for it.

[cowboyandchrist]

I know most on 3A downlow have penciled in Celina and Gilmer for D2 monsters of the midway in the new alignment, but there is another coming. I told you on here a while back about what Tatum had coming with all the pro football players kids. Well they will be freshmen and sophmores this year IN 2013. When they become juniors and seniors, they could be better than the 2005 state champs.

[ronwx5x]

I know most on 3A downlow have penciled in Celina and Gilmer for D2 monsters of the midway in the new alignment, but there is another coming. I told you on here a while back about what Tatum had coming with all the pro football players kids. Well they will be freshmen and sophmores this year IN 2013. When they become juniors and seniors, they could be better than the 2005 state champs.

Why are there pro football player's kids living in Tatum? I'm sure the residents love it there, but Tatum?

[cowboyandchrist]

Why are there pro football player's kids living in Tatum? I'm sure the residents love it there, but Tatum?

Larry centers, Travian Smith, Larry Horton, Hodge, Bell, and D moe. There kids, nephews, and cousins are in this group. They came back home to raise thier kids. If you have ever seen the facilities at Tatum, you would understand.

[Matthew328]

Tatum does have fantastic facilities...

[buckeyebob]

The best money can buy...see Carthrage right down the road...can't wait to move Tatumb back on the Bux Play Card...one of the largest games ever played in Buckeye Stadium was with the Eagles...y'all still got Evans? It will look like we will move NE with Atlanta, Pittsburg (they could go Div 1), Pleasant Grove, then pick-up Spring Hill & Gladewater

[cowboyandchrist]

The best money can buy...see Carthrage right down the road...can't wait to move Tatumb back on the Bux Play Card...one of the largest games ever played in Buckeye Stadium was with the Eagles...y'all still got Evans? It will look like we will move NE with Atlanta, Pittsburg (they could go Div 1), Pleasant Grove, then pick-up Spring Hill & Gladewater

Yes we still have Evans, great Christian man and great coach. I will never say Tatum can or will beat Gilmer. It has been done once in the last 12 years. The group of young men I spoke about will have a great chance. When this sophmore class were freshmen, they beat Gilmer 45 to 6.

[buckeyebob]

Tup! But we had robbed our good frshman for the varsity.

[MustangFootball]

I'm not a fan of the new alignment, but I think Ingleside would have benefitted from going division 2 last year as they were one of the Smallest teams competing at division 1, losing to El Campo in the quarter finals. Ingleside had an enrollment of 613 and El Campo had an enrollment of 975, don't get me wrong I would like to see our boys play the best in 3a but change is inevitable and it's coming:1popcorn:

[regaleagle]

Yes we still have Evans, great Christian man and great coach. I will never say Tatum can or will beat Gilmer. It has been done once in the last 12 years. The group of young men I spoke about will have a great chance. When this sophmore class were freshmen, they beat Gilmer 45 to 6.

Good to hear about Tatum moving up. They are a very competitive school, and the new alignment should bode well for them. I reckon they will be looking forward to playing at the 3A level.....should be no problem for them. Maybe we'll get some of their posters chiming in on here.

[buckeyebob]

Good to hear about Tatum moving up. They are a very competitive school, and the new alignment should bode well for them. I reckon they will be looking forward to playing at the 3A level.....should be no problem for them. Maybe we'll get some of their posters chiming in on here.

Please don't encourage them...they are rabid and rich...got a Jumbotron.

[MustangFootball]

:confused:So with 3A Being named the new 4A what does that mean for 3aDownlow? Are we going to have to find a new home??? This is the best HS football website!!!!:confused:

[cowboyandchrist]

:confused:So with 3A Being named the new 4A what does that mean for 3aDownlow? Are we going to have to find a new home??? This is the best HS football website!!!!:confused:

Please no new home, this is the only site that covers 3A around the state, heck even us fast, very fast East Texas folks love it.

[LHPfactory]

:confused:So with 3A Being named the new 4A what does that mean for 3aDownlow? Are we going to have to find a new home??? This is the best HS football website!!!!:confused:


Some folk out of Stephenville own 4A downlow....... Oh no it just hit me, this could be a Longhorn Network fiascal on the highschool level....:):):):)

[marler1972]

New name of the site could be 3A DOWNLOW NOW *********.

[jason]

www.*********.com

[marler1972]

can it go to 4a downlow.net or 4a_downlow.com

[waterboy]

How about AAAAdownlow.com, or just the downlow.com?

[Matthew328]

How about AAAAdownlow.com, or just the downlow.com?

downlow.com might get the wrong crowd here...

[jason]

downlow.com might get the wrong crowd here...
ha. might keep some more interested.

[ronwx5x]

4AHS.com?

[ronwx5x]

4A_TX.com
4A_HS.com
4A_Downlow.com

[jason]

4A_TX.com
4A_HS.com
4A_Downlow.com

won't need any of those.
www.*********.com is available.

[ronwx5x]

won't need any of those.
www.*********.com is available.

Managed by Stephenville Computers?

[jason]

Managed by Stephenville Computers?
Yes.
It is available.
:D