Division 2 State Semi's :Bellville Brahmas vs Navasota Rattlers

[Bull's-eye]

What I like the most was watching the team come down the stairs from the locker room... I wished that they could have somehow incorporated that concept in the design of the new stadium.

That was also my favorite, reminded me of Roman Gladiators going into the pit to do battle.

[HEMOTOXIC]

That was also my favorite, reminded me of Roman Gladiators going into the pit to do battle.

lol. True. I actually hated Brule.

[Dowork]

Div 1 scholarships are pretty difficult to come by. How big and how fast is 12?

He is about 6'2 190. Probably 4.5 ish.very physical on the YouTube videos I saw though catches ball well and is there leading receiver

[whitelightning5]

Div 1 scholarships are pretty difficult to come by. How big and how fast is 12?

IMO....#12 was the best looking athlete on the team. I made some comments on him in the past few weeks about him being cocky, but I was straightened out and was told he was just emotional. They have a hand full of good looking athletes. Some will go DI-AA and some DI. Either way....they get to continue playing and millions don't. I was also impressed with #33 at LB. He's aggressive and has nice size.

[zebrablue2]

Why is he not coaching along with his brother?

Could be he enjoys being around his kids as much as possible, college life will not allow that. After they are on their own, he will be a college coach somewhere, and a damn GOOD one...

[OldBison75]

Yes sir. #33 was considered the 3rd best LB coming into the season and has become a force this year. He has good size, good speed, and tackles very well.

[zebrablue2]

Probably the best game between these 2 teams came in 2004. In a back in forth shoot out, Navasota's Chris Smith scored a TD on the last play of the game to give the Rattlers a 37-34 victory. Two things that I remember from that game, Navasota's running back Chris Smith coming over to shake hands with the Bellville coaches & the Bellville crowd giving both teams a standing ovation.

My wife's baby boy was the center on that Brahma team. I was down on the field in the endzone with Smith running to the corner. That was one tough loss, Bellville, Rice and Nav all finished 4-1 in disrict.

[striker]

I have really enjoyed watching this Bellville team improve & be molded into a very good football team. They have learned from their mistakes, making changes or adjustments to strengthen those areas of need. One key to this game will be if the Bellville secondary can cover the Navasota receivers. In the playoffs, the Bellville pass defense has been responsible for 11 interceptions & have only given up one 4 yard TD pass to Wimberley. With that all being said, Bellville has not faced a passing team like the one they will face Friday night.

I thought Kinkaid passed a lot on Bellville in their game? According to the box score it looks like they had about 250 passing and 220 rushing against the Brahmas. It also looks like they threw two different quarterbacks at you all that game. Insight?

[Manso/V8]

I just watched some 2012 Navasota highlights on youtube and I noticed that your OL blocks in the back a lot during pass protection.
Are the Rattlers getting flagged for those penalties?

[striker]

That 2004 group was a special Rattler class. I also believe they began a new tradition of playing with class and respecting for their opponents.


Probably the best game between these 2 teams came in 2004. In a back in forth shoot out, Navasota's Chris Smith scored a TD on the last play of the game to give the Rattlers a 37-34 victory. Two things that I remember from that game, Navasota's running back Chris Smith coming over to shake hands with the Bellville coaches & the Bellville crowd giving both teams a standing ovation.

[whitelightning5]

I just watched some 2012 Navasota highlights on youtube and I noticed that your OL blocks in the back a lot during pass protection.
Are the Rattlers getting flagged for those penalties?

That will never get a call because it's legal from tackle to tackle and within 4 yards of the line of scrimmage on the offensive side of the ball. They push DL from behind all of the time to wash them past the QB. Anything outside of this area should be flagged, but even if the OL gives ground and then blocks in the back its never called.

Holding is about the only thing that gets called when within the "free blocking zone."

[OldBison75]

I just watched some 2012 Navasota highlights on youtube and I noticed that your OL blocks in the back a lot during pass protection.
Are the Rattlers getting flagged for those penalties?

No. This year the Rattlers are having a good year as far as reducing the numbers of penalties as a whole. As for the blocking in the back by the o-line, read the rules. In the free blocking zone blocking in the back is legal and as long as that contact is maintained and not broken the block is legal to the finish. The o-line of the Rattlers has been able to maintain excellent contact with the defender.

[Manso/V8]

I thought Kinkaid passed a lot on Bellville in their game? According to the box score it looks like they had about 250 passing and 220 rushing against the Brahmas. It also looks like they threw two different quarterbacks at you all that game. Insight?

Kinkaid runs a pretty completed spread and they are pretty big and physical. Bellville had just come off of a 77-15 win over Caldwell in the opener, and I don't think they were mentally prepared for Kinkaid. Our secondary and really our defense in general had gelled, and our offense wasn't what it should have been either. If I remember right, Kinkaid had a couple of D1 bound kids, one runs a powerful 4.4 and is headed to Northwestern next year. Anyway, they were mostly a passing team, and we got burned on some coverage assignments. The first half or so, they went with a freshman or sophomore QB who was supposed to be the second coming, but he really wasn't. Maybe that kid's dad is a huge donor, or maybe they see a D1 QB in him done the road, but he wasn't consistently accurate and couldn't break out and run like you would expect or want. When they switched to their senior QB, their passing game picked up quite a bit, and that kid also got some yards on the ground. The ground yardage was mostly the QB scrambles and the 4.4 kid busted a 96 yard run from the LOS, after Bellville pinned them with an awesome punt. Again that was a mental error on the defense, the LB was blocked and there was no one left. That game seems like it was two seasons ago. The Brahmas really didn't start to gel until after the El Campo game, and now they are totally different. A couple pre-district losses and near losses help make the team as good as it now. We are still building and have yet to play that great game we and they all they are capable of playing. I am pretty confident that game is going to be Friday.

[BrahmaMom]

It has been fun to watch Navasota develop their program, dignity and tradition over the years. That said, I have to go with the Bulls this game. Get ready, Brahmas, Friday night is coming!

[SHSBulldog00]

http://youtu.be/HcdQSWICh7E

[Manso/V8]

That will never get a call because it's legal from tackle to tackle and within 4 yards of the line of scrimmage on the offensive side of the ball. They push DL from behind all of the time to wash them past the QB. Anything outside of this area should be flagged, but even if the OL gives ground and then blocks in the back its never called.

Holding is about the only thing that gets called when within the "free blocking zone."

What about those plays against PI where the lineman were holding the ball carrier up and pulling, sometimes pushing him for more yardage? I guess that is legal?

It seemed like there were several times that the scrum or pile should have been blown dead and it wasn't , or it was delayed. I watched the replay on the RGV website, and the announcer were talking about that as well. It seemed like our players were hesitant to jump in, thinking they were going to get a late hit call. I also think a lot of the personal fouls in the game came as a result of these plays not being blown dead when you would have expected. I am not a ref, but it just seemed different that what we normally see.

[Manso/V8]

No. This year the Rattlers are having a good year as far as reducing the numbers of penalties as a whole. As for the blocking in the back by the o-line, read the rules. In the free blocking zone blocking in the back is legal and as long as that contact is maintained and not broken the block is legal to the finish. The o-line of the Rattlers has been able to maintain excellent contact with the defender.

The Rattler OL seems big and slow, so perfecting that technique must be helpful. Does the contact have to be maintained only before the push, or after the push as well. In other words, if a OT keeps his hands on the DT as he is getting him by him, can the OT shove the DT to the ground or does he have to maintain contact while pushing? Again, I am not a ref, just want to understand the rule.

[whitelightning5]

What about those plays against PI where the lineman were holding the ball carrier up and pulling, sometimes pushing him for more yardage? I guess that is legal?

It seemed like there were several times that the scrum or pile should have been blown dead and it wasn't , or it was delayed. I watched the replay on the RGV website, and the announcer were talking about that as well. It seemed like our players were hesitant to jump in, thinking they were going to get a late hit call. I also think a lot of the personal fouls in the game came as a result of these plays not being blown dead when you would have expected. I am not a ref, but it just seemed different that what we normally see.

Once forward progress is stopped, they should not be able to advance the runner without it being a flag. That said, its never called. Take the Bush Push for example. It's hard on refs because you have to determine if the runners legs are moving with the pile. If so, its hard to determine if he is moving the pile or not. That is why that typically gets the benefit of the doubt. If his legs are off of the ground and the pile is being pushed...obviously that is not legal and should be flagged. And I agree....especially when the defense is driving the ball carrier backwards after forward progress is stopped. Its up to the ref to blow the play dead and determine when to throw the flag for unnecessary roughness.

[Tejastrue]

Hey Bellville..will be pulling for you guys once again. Hope y'all came out healthy against PI and will be at full force. Best of luck to both teams but go Brahmas.

[Bull's-eye]

Hey Bellville..will be pulling for you guys once again. Hope y'all came out healthy against PI and will be at full force. Best of luck to both teams but go Brahmas.

Thanks Tejastrue! I want one of those decals like the Texans have on their equipment truck. ;)

[Manso/V8]

Hey Bellville..will be pulling for you guys once again. Hope y'all came out healthy against PI and will be at full force. Best of luck to both teams but go Brahmas.

Appreciate the support, both towns are enjoying the run and hoping for one more week!
I am sure you remember the feeling very well.

[HEMOTOXIC]

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Navasota's versatile Austin Collins leading Rattlers into state semifinals

By LARRY BOWEN larry.bowen@theeagle.com BrazosSports | 0 comments

Austin Collins didn't stop at scoring four touchdowns for the Navasota football team last week to help the Rattlers win the program's biggest game in more than two decades.

Collins also hit a home run.

The senior delivered a halftime speech that drew praise from head coach Lee Fedora, with Collins encouraging his teammates to seize the history-making victory.

The top-ranked Rattlers met the challenge, taking a 38-7 victory over previously unbeaten West Orange-Stark to reach the state semifinal round for the first time since 1988. Navasota (14-0) will play Bellville (11-3) in Waller at 7 p.m. Friday for a berth in next week's Class 3A Division II championship game to be played at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington.

Along with being a wide receiver, safety, kick returner and occasional quarterback, Collins qualifies as a recent historian when it comes to Rattlers football. His older brother Aaron played on the 2010 team that was the fifth in a string of six consecutive Navasota teams eliminated in the state quarterfinals.

The family ties fueled Collins' halftime speech.

"I remember my brother telling me that you can't take anything for granted," Austin Collins said. "You've got to play 100 percent because you never know when you can get that game back. He missed that chance. I don't want to be sitting at home telling my little brother the same thing Aaron told me."

Collins has done plenty to help make this season's story have a happy ending. The senior leads the Rattlers in receiving (80-1,606 yards), in touchdowns (28), in kick returns (6-168 yards), in all-purpose yardage (1,827), in interceptions (seven) and in pass break-ups (13).

Last week's game against West Orange-Stark, which came in with the state's top-rated defense, was a showcase for Collins' ability. In the first half he caught a pair of touchdown passes and returned an interception 67 yards as Navasota raced to a stunning 28-0 lead. In the second half he found a different way to score, zipping 37 yards after taking a direct snap in the wildcat formation.

"Nothing amazes me about Austin Collins," Fedora said. "Since the start of the year, whenever [college] coaches come by and ask me about him, my biggest comment is that he's a play-maker.

"Every time the ball touches his hands he's got a chance to make a big play. With the athletes we have like A.C., you can get the ball in his hands with a short route and he can bust it for 70-80 yards."

Ask Collins about his spectacular senior season and he is quick to mention quarterback Kadarius Baker, the offensive linemen and the other members of the receiving corps. The offense has combined to average 447.7 yards and 46.5 points per game.

That type of production keeps Collins from worrying about whether opponents will focus on stopping him after his big game against West Orange-Stark.

"It doesn't bother me because I know I have a great team around me," Collins said. "Even if I don't go out there and get one touchdown, I know someone else will step up when it's not my time."

Fedora and his coaching staff were impressed with the speed of West Orange-Stark's defense going into the quarterfinal game. They answered with a jet of their own in Collins, who ran a 4.4 in the 40-yard dash last spring and twice torched the Mustangs on keepers from the wildcat formation.

Collins had a 68-yard touchdown wiped out by a holding penalty in the first half, during which he unleashed a startling burst of speed down the sideline.

"I love running the wildcat," Collins said. "I was a quarterback on the JV when I was in the 10th grade. I used to always run the ball, and the receivers would come back to the huddle and ask me if I could throw it at least a couple of plays."

Collins has made more than enough plays to attract the attention of college scouts. Collins said he hopes to play in college, but like the other Navasota players who are recruiting prospects, Collins has kept his focus on making history for the Rattlers.

That commitment to the program and the town earns raves from Fedora.

"He's a guy that really bleeds and believes in the royal blue of the Navasota Rattlers," Fedora said. "It's about his teammates and community, and that's what makes him an impressive young man."

[whitelightning5]

That doesn't sound like much fun for my team....

[Manso/V8]

We got guys like that too!
It should be a great game.

[whitelightning5]

We got guys like that too!
It should be a great game.

They have more...unfortunately. I think you will be impressed with the level of speed and talent that Navasota has. It hurts me so bad to say that....BTW.

[Manso/V8]

They have more...unfortunately. I think you will be impressed with the level of speed and talent that Navasota has. It hurts me so bad to say that....BTW.

I have seen this group of Navasota kids play several times, in football and 7on7.
They have athletes for sure, but they are not as disciplined and I don't think they deal with adversity nearly as well as this group of Brahmas.

The big plays are awesome, and exciting to see, especially in person like you experienced.
But, if you take a hard look at the film, they are really not the dominant team everyone has hyped, and they are definitely beatable.

If we frustrate them a bit, or get up on them, I doubt they handle it very well.
Look at what kind of game LaGrange gave them last year, a LaGrange squad that didn't make the playoffs. These are the same kids.

Good athletes are the reason Navasota makes a pretty deep playoff run most years, but those same athletes are the reason they get knocked out.
It is very hard, or maybe impossible for a snake to change its spots.

We have special group of Brahmas this year, and a complete team.
The odds are in our favor.

[whitelightning5]

I have seen this group of Navasota kids play for several times, in football and 7on7.

They have athletes for sure, but they are not very disciplined and I don't think they deal with adversity nearly as well as this group of Brahmas.

If we frustrate them a bit, or get up on them, they won't handle it too well.

Good athletes are the reason Navasita makes a pretty deep playoff run most years, but those same athletes are the reason they get knocked out.

It is very hard, or maybe impossible for a snake to change its spots.

We have special group of Brahmas this year, and a complete team.

The odds are in our favor.

I hope you're right. Also, I will say that it's hard to know how they react to adversity because they really haven't seen it this year. If we can keep it close, it may definitely make them uneasy because they haven't been there many (if any) times this year.

[HEMOTOXIC]

I have seen this group of Navasota kids play for several times, in football and 7on7.

They have athletes for sure, but they are not very disciplined and I don't think they deal with adversity nearly as well as this group of Brahmas.

If we frustrate them a bit, or get up on them, they won't handle it too well.

Good athletes are the reason Navasita makes a pretty deep playoff run most years, but those same athletes are the reason they get knocked out.

It is very hard, or maybe impossible for a snake to change its spots.

We have special group of Brahmas this year, and a complete team.

The odds are in our favor.

Undisciplined?:thinking:

Ask LaMarque how well Navasota deals with adversity and "trying" to frustrate them.

And, I will disagree with you on the reason why Navasota has lost in the past. It wasn't due to the players being undisciplined, that's for sure.

2007- #1 Liberty Hill- That Liberty Hill team was the best team that I've seen hands down in the 3a ranks.
2008- #2 La Vega- 3 turnovers inside the 20, lost in OT
2009- #1 Gilmer- Lost 42-35- A game that no one gave the Rattlers a chance. The game came down to execution and defense. The better team won.
2010- #2 Chapel Hill- Just down right whipped our asses... Better team period!
2011- #1 Chapel Hill- Navasota actually had the lead in the 4th q. But, the inability or the lack of not trying to run the ball really hurt. Along with with 2 turnovers to start the game, CH went up 13-0 in the first 2 minutes only to see Navasota take the lead by the half.

[OldBison75]

I appreciate you opinion that the Rattlers don't handle adversity well. Just keep thinking that way. This group of kids believe that they are winners and have been told all year on most message boards that they will fail by every team we have played. After beating LaMarque, a coach from there even when so far as to say how bad LaMarque beat out boys down but lost because of mistakes. I can tell you that that was crap.

This is a group that lost an all state linebacker early in the season and the defense stepped up and got better. No head hanging or moaning--just results.

[Manso/V8]

Undisciplined?:thinking:

Ask LaMarque how well Navasota deals with adversity and "trying" to frustrate them.

You know exactly what I am talking about.

[HEMOTOXIC]

You know exactly what I am talking about.

No, Acutally I don't. Care to share?

[hookandladder]

I appreciate you opinion that the Rattlers don't handle adversity well. Just keep thinking that way. This group of kids believe that they are winners and have been told all year on most message boards that they will fail by every team we have played. After beating LaMarque, a coach from there even when so far as to say how bad LaMarque beat out boys down but lost because of mistakes. I can tell you that that was crap.

This is a group that lost an all state linebacker early in the season and the defense stepped up and got better. No head hanging or moaning--just results.

That is hard to beleive your defense got better without Will Imhoff, a 3 year starter in high school is not easy to replace much less get better. Maybe just the matchups of other teams just played into your defenses schemes better, just hard to beleive you could lose someone on defense as good as Imhoff and get better. I know for a fact if we would have lost our MLB our defense would have never replaced him, guess that just shows Navasota is very deep in talent.

[whitelightning5]

That is hard to beleive your defense got better without Will Imhoff, a 3 year starter in high school is not easy to replace much less get better. Maybe just the matchups of other teams just played into your defenses schemes better, just hard to beleive you could lose someone on defense as good as Imhoff and get better. I know for a fact if we would have lost our MLB our defense would have never replaced him, guess that just shows Navasota is very deep in talent.

I agree. If Imhoff was better than #33.....GEEZ. That would be one of the best LB cores that I've seen in 3A football. The best being Coldsprings LBs last year.

[HEMOTOXIC]

That is hard to beleive your defense got better without Will Imhoff, a 3 year starter in high school is not easy to replace much less get better. Maybe just the matchups of other teams just played into your defenses schemes better, just hard to beleive you could lose someone on defense as good as Imhoff and get better. I know for a fact if we would have lost our MLB our defense would have never replaced him, guess that just shows Navasota is very deep in talent.

They moved some players around. Yes, we do miss Will, but his brother has filled in nicely!

[Manso/V8]

I appreciate you opinion that the Rattlers don't handle adversity well. Just keep thinking that way. This group of kids believe that they are winners and have been told all year on most message boards that they will fail by every team we have played. After beating LaMarque, a coach from there even when so far as to say how bad LaMarque beat out boys down but lost because of mistakes. I can tell you that that was crap.

This is a group that lost an all state linebacker early in the season and the defense stepped up and got better. No head hanging or moaning--just results.

That is my opinion based on experience with these two groups of kids.
This group of Brahmas has beat this group of Rattlers every time they have faced each other in pads.

I put no stock in the comments made by the La Marque coach.
At this point in the playoffs all the teams are good, and mistakes big and small are what make the difference.

We have top kids sidelined with injury and continued to succeed as well.
We just don't chest thump about those kind of things, it is just expected from the Brahmas.

[Manso/V8]

I agree. If Imhoff was better than #33.....GEEZ. That would be one of the best LB cores that I've seen in 3A football. The best being Coldsprings LBs last year.

Really? I feel even better. We gave Coldspring a major run for their money in 2 OT last year. The difference in that game was the Brahmas lack of big game experience.
This year's version of the Brahmas is a better, more complete team, and they have shown the ability to rise to the occasion in big games.
I like our chances!

[whitelightning5]

That is my opinion based on experience with these two groups of kids.
This group of Brahmas has beat this group of Rattlers every time they have faced each other in pads.

I put no stock in the comments made by the La Marque coach.
At this point in the playoffs all the teams are good, and mistakes big and small are what make the difference.

We have top kids sidelined with injury and continued to succeed as well.
We just don't chest thump about those kind of things, it is just expected from the Brahmas.

I agree with most of that, but will say that all of these comparisons between the 2 teams came from different athletes and under different coaches. It's a new year and it's hard to hang your hat on days of old in regards to their ability to handle adversity.

[Manso/V8]

No, Acutally I don't. Care to share?

You don't know what I am talking about, you don't care, but you want me to share?

OldBison75 says that the Navasota kids read these boards, so I am not going to go in to it here.
From your reaction, I am guessing you really do know what I am talking about.

[whitelightning5]

Really? I feel even better. We gave Coldspring a major run for their money in 2 OT last year. The major difference in that game was the Brahmas lack of big game experience.
This year's version of the Brahmas is a better, more complete team, and they have shown the ability to rise to the occaision in big games.
I like our chances!

Coldspring didnt have close to the offense that Navasota does..... You talk about undisciplined, Coldspring could have easily taken that game out of hand, but it was their discipline that put them in long yardage situations. I dont think experience had anything to do with the loss. They gave us ample opportunities to win the game and we couldnt move the ball. Their defense was just that good. If anything, we looked more experienced in big games than they did given the penalties and such. The thing that held Bellville back last year was the inability to throw the ball. It was run, run, run, run, and then throw a deep ball and hope for the best. I agree we are more balanced this year.

[HEMOTOXIC]

I will say this, time brings about a change. I hear what Manso is saying about the same teams playing back when they were in junior high, etc.
In regards to that, all of these players have changed, some have gotten better, some have not, some kids may not even be playing, etc. Maybe the team chemistry has gotten better. As whitelightning5 stated, I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

Only two more days. Hopefully this game will be a game for the ages. But, I do know that this Navasota team is and can be very, very good.

[HEMOTOXIC]

You don't know what I am talking about, you don't care, but you want me to share?

OldBison75 says that the Navasota kids read these boards, so I am not going to go in to it here.
From your reaction, I am guessing you really do know what I am talking about.

Don't care. When did I say that? But, I agree, let's just leave it at that...

[whitelightning5]

Don't care. When did I say that? But, I agree, let's just leave it at that...

I'm kinda curious now too.....Manso can you loop me in?

[Manso/V8]

Undisciplined?:thinking:

Ask LaMarque how well Navasota deals with adversity and "trying" to frustrate them.

And, I will disagree with you on the reason why Navasota has lost in the past. It wasn't due to the players being undisciplined, that's for sure.

2007- #1 Liberty Hill- That Liberty Hill team was the best team that I've seen hands down in the 3a ranks.
2008- #2 La Vega- 3 turnovers inside the 20, lost in OT -
2009- #1 Gilmer- Lost 42-35- A game that no one gave the Rattlers a chance. The game came down to execution and defense. The better team won. -
2010- #2 Chapel Hill- Just down right whipped our asses... Better team period!
2011- #1 Chapel Hill- Navasota actually had the lead in the 4th q. But, the inability or the lack of not trying to run the ball really hurt. Along with with 2 turnovers to start the game, CH went up 13-0 in the first 2 minutes only to see Navasota take the lead by the half.

2007- #1 Liberty Hill- we are not LH 2007, we are a very, very good slot t team though, very frustrating to play a slot t team, takes a lot of discipline to defend the slot t, especially if you don't see it very often or your OC is not very, very familiar with it, we ain't 2010 Caldwell

2008- #2 La Vega- 3 turnovers inside the 20, lost in OT - exactly what I am talking about

2009- #1 Gilmer- Lost 42-35- A game that no one gave the Rattlers a chance. The game came down to execution and defense. The better team won.- execution on offense and defense, wins big playoff games, that is discipline

2010- #2 Chapel Hill- Just down right whipped our asses... Better team period! - OK

2011- #1 Chapel Hill- Navasota actually had the lead in the 4th q. But, the inability or the lack of not trying to run the ball really hurt. Along with with 2 turnovers to start the game, CH went up 13-0 in the first 2 minutes only to see Navasota take the lead by the half. - start the game on Friday with 2 turnovers (discipline!), and you will lose, rely only on the pass, and you will lose

[HEMOTOXIC]

2007- #1 Liberty Hill- we are not LH 2007, we are very, very good slot t team though, very frustrating to play a slot t team, takes a lot of discipline to defend the slot t, especially if you don't see it very often or your OC is not very, very familiar with it, we ain't 2010 Caldwell
2008- #2 La Vega- 3 turnovers inside the 20, lost in OT - exactly what I am talking about2009- #1 Gilmer- Lost 42-35- A game that no one gave the Rattlers a chance. The game came down to execution and defense. The better team won.- execution on offense and defense, wins big playoff games, that is discipline
2010- #2 Chapel Hill- Just down right whipped our asses... Better team period! - OK2011- #1 Chapel Hill- Navasota actually had the lead in the 4th q. But, the inability or the lack of not trying to run the ball really hurt. Along with with 2 turnovers to start the game, CH went up 13-0 in the first 2 minutes only to see Navasota take the lead by the half. - start the game on Friday with 2 turnovers, and you will lose, rely only the pass, and you will lose.

Got ya. Camparing 2007 Liberty Hill to Bellville's version of the slot t is like comparing apples to oranges. Even those good Caldwell teams, IMO, ran the slot t better and had very good defenses.

I still think that you can't blame every turnover on "discipline". But, hey, if that how you look at it, so be it.

[whitelightning5]

2007- #1 Liberty Hill- we are not LH 2007, we are very, very good slot t team though, very frustrating to play a slot t team, takes a lot of discipline to defend the slot t, especially if you don't see it very often or your OC is not very, very familiar with it, we ain't 2010 Caldwell

2008- #2 La Vega- 3 turnovers inside the 20, lost in OT - exactly what I am talking about

2009- #1 Gilmer- Lost 42-35- A game that no one gave the Rattlers a chance. The game came down to execution and defense. The better team won.- execution on offense and defense, wins big playoff games, that is discipline

2010- #2 Chapel Hill- Just down right whipped our asses... Better team period! - OK

2011- #1 Chapel Hill- Navasota actually had the lead in the 4th q. But, the inability or the lack of not trying to run the ball really hurt. Along with with 2 turnovers to start the game, CH went up 13-0 in the first 2 minutes only to see Navasota take the lead by the half. - start the game on Friday with 2 turnovers, and you will lose, rely only the pass, and you will lose

DUDE...I admire the Bellville support. That said, you called them out for "thumping their chest" by them saying that Navasota was going to win. Aren't you kinda doing the same thing?

I would much rather fly under the radar and then talk garbage after it's said and done. Not only helps me save face, but then I can keep the underdog mentality.

[hookandladder]

I will say this, time brings about a change. I hear what Manso is saying about the same teams playing back when they were in junior high, etc.
In regards to that, all of these players have changed, some have gotten better, some have not, some kids may not even be playing, etc. Maybe the team chemistry has gotten better. As whitelightning5 stated, I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

Only two more days. Hopefully this game will be a game for the ages. But, I do know that this Navasota team is and can be very, very good.

I know I am an outsider in this tread however I would disagree with your opinion about what happens in the lower grades in football, it is just like watching your Little All Star team when they were 12 yr. old's. The talent that is there then will be there when they are Seniors good or bad, yes some will get better then others but ultimately if you were competitive at an earlier age it will carry over but if you were not it will also carry over. At 3A level and down there is only a few kids that play one sport and the most talented ones play more then 2 sport's, so that gives very little time to specailize in one sport to get that much better. Just my opinion.

[HEMOTOXIC]

I know I am an outsider in this tread however I would disagree with your opinion about what happens in the lower grades in football, it is just like watching your Little All Star team when they were 12 yr. old's. The talent that is there then will be there when they are Seniors good or bad, yes some will get better then others but ultimately if you were competitive at an earlier age it will carry over but if you were not it will also carry over. At 3A level and down there is only a few kids that play one sport and the most talented ones play more then 2 sport's, so that gives very little time to specailize in one sport to get that much better. Just my opinion.


I didn't mention anything about being competitve. However, I do agree.

[Manso/V8]

Don't care. When did I say that? But, I agree, let's just leave it at that...

My bad, I misread your post #281, what else would you expect from an ex-Rattler?

[HEMOTOXIC]

My bad, I misread your post #281, what else would you expect from an ex-Rattler?

Not a problem... I'm hyped. I hope that both sides are filled to capacity. I know that Navasota will have 6,000 plus.

[whitelightning5]

Not a problem... I'm hyped. I hope that both sides are filled to capacity. I know that Navasota will have 6,000 plus.

Just no vuvuzelas during our school song or National Anthem......deal?

[HEMOTOXIC]

Just no vuvuzelas during our school song or National Anthem......deal?

What the hell is that?

[OLE'BULL]

What the hell is that?

Dont ask. Probably the most annoying thing to ever surface at a high school football game...

[HEMOTOXIC]

Dont ask. Probably the most annoying thing to ever surface at a high school football game...


Ok, understood.

[whitelightning5]

Ok, understood.

The horns that you typically hear at soccer games....that buzzing noise that is constantly going....sounds like a bunch of bumble bees.

[HEMOTOXIC]

The horns that you typically hear at soccer games....that buzzing noise that is constantly going....sounds like a bunch of bumble bees.

During the school song and National Anthem? The National Anthem?

[whitelightning5]

During the school song and National Anthem? The National Anthem?

You read me right.....according to PI fans. They do things differently.

[HEMOTOXIC]

You read me right.....according to PI fans. They do things differently.

But, it's the National Anthem.. You shouldn't be doing anything other than paying respect to this great country.

[Manso/V8]

Just no vuvuzelas during our school song or National Anthem......deal?

Vuvuzelas, can you say that 3 times fast.

[whitelightning5]

But, it's the National Anthem.. You shouldn't be doing anything other than paying respect to this great country.

AMEN....Brother. They are still fighting me on whether it's right or wrong. I can deal with tradition and sometimes tradition is different at other schools, but blowing on vuvuzelas and cheering during the anthem and school song are disrespectful.

[whitelightning5]

Vuvuzelas, can you say that 3 times fast.

Let me start with 1 time slow.....lol

[Manso/V8]

Not a problem... I'm hyped. I hope that both sides are filled to capacity. I know that Navasota will have 6,000 plus.

EVERYONE is hyped! Bellville doesn't have that high of a population, but plenty of people are coming in to town for this one. We have cousins other kinfolk and such coming in from South Texas, Central Texas,........and here comes a big confession, East Texas as well. Capacity is 10,000 from what I read.

[whitelightning5]

and here comes a big confession, East Texas as well.

Why I oughta......lol. Can they wear RED and cheer loud? Can they bring a bull horn?

[footballgal]

Just no vuvuzelas during our school song or National Anthem......deal?

:lies:

[whitelightning5]

:lies:

FYI.....footballgal is a Brahma at heart. She crossed over.

[HEMOTOXIC]

From what I remember, Waller ISD does allow horns, bells, etc... However, at Turner stadium, you couldn't bring such. Someone I know was even asked to throw away candy that was in her purse... Talk about overkill!:doh:

[footballgal]

FYI.....footballgal is a Brahma at heart. She crossed over.



Que Dios los bendiga a nuestros amigos del norte, y suerte contra Navasota

[whitelightning5]

Que Dios los bendiga a nuestros amigos del norte, y suerte contra Navasota

Thanks footballgal. We need all of the luck we can get against Navasota.

[SintonFan]

That and the championship is on Friday, he didnt want a short week



So the coach knew his team would win??? :doh:
Bellville has no chance!!!!!!!!! :doh:

Go Brahmas!!! Take THIS GAME!!!

[Manso/V8]

Que Dios los bendiga a nuestros amigos del norte, y suerte contra Navasota

Los Tarpones siempre será parte de la familia y de nuestra historia, y esperamos con interés a una reunión el próximo año!

[Manso/V8]

I agree with most of that, but will say that all of these comparisons between the 2 teams came from different athletes and under different coaches. It's a new year and it's hard to hang your hat on days of old in regards to their ability to handle adversity.

Same teams, sames kids, just a few years older.

[Manso/V8]

Got ya. Camparing 2007 Liberty Hill to Bellville's version of the slot t is like comparing apples to oranges. Even those good Caldwell teams, IMO, ran the slot t better and had very good defenses.

I still think that you can't blame every turnover on "discipline". But, hey, if that how you look at it, so be it.

I said we aren't LH 2007, I said we are a slot t team that can be a very, very frustrating to play.........ask Wharton, Sealy, Cuero, Wimberley and other opponents this year and last year. Caldwell 2010 was the last slot t team Navasota faced, and Caldwell didn't make the playoff in 2010, so don't tell me they were a better team than 2012 Bellville.

[HEMOTOXIC]

I said we aren't LH 2007, I said we are a slot t team that can be a very, very frustrating to play.........ask Wharton, Sealy, Cuero, Wimberley and other opponents this year and last year. Caldwell 2010 was the last slot t team Navasota faced, and Caldwell didn't make the playoff in 2010, so don't tell me they were a better team than 2012 Bellville.

I did say those good Caldwell teams. You have 3 loses to teams that, IMO, Navasota would clobber.
But, I will let you keep believing. Navasota will be ready for anything Bellville tries.

[Manso/V8]

I did say those good Caldwell teams. You have 3 loses to teams that, IMO, Navasota would clobber.
But, I will let you keep believing. Navasota will be ready for anything Bellville tries.

Did you just use the word clobber? As in big city prices?
I think that counts as a turnover.

You must be getting frustrated.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Did you just use the word clobber? As in big city prices?
I think that counts as a turnover.

You must be getting frustrated.

Why would I be getting frustrated? The whole state knows how good Navasota is except for you.

[Dowork]

I did say those good Caldwell teams. You have 3 loses to teams that, IMO, Navasota would clobber.
But, I will let you keep believing. Navasota will be ready for anything Bellville tries.

First off 2010 caldwells offense is not even close to as good as Bellvilles this year.second I'm pretty sure there is a team playing for a state championship this week that bellville played. Any Caldwell team in the last 5 years should not be compared to this team.how disrespectful! Pretty sure u wouldn't clobber el campo. Lol good try tho

[Manso/V8]

Why would I be getting frustrated? The whole state knows how good Navasota is except for you.

I imagine it would be frustrating to finally make it to the 5th round and you are playing in Waller instead of JerryWorld.

I am not trying to smack talk or anything like that.
I have always liked you and your insights, and I usually enjoy reading your posts.
The gloating is out of character.

I know Navasota is a good team.
This Brahma team can beat them.
History has a way of repeating itself.

Anyway, I am really pumped for the game.
Best of luck to both teams.

Brahmas by 7.

[Ville-D]

Brahmas by 7.

Navasota 63
Bellville 3

[Manso/V8]

Navasota 63
Bellville 3

No way, we made a sovereign Brahma promise not to kick FG's in this game, we are always going for the TD.

[Ville-D]

No way, we made a sovereign Brahma promise not to kick FG's in this game, we are always going for the TD.

ok 63-0

[HEMOTOXIC]

Go SNAKES!

[HEMOTOXIC]

I imagine it would be frustrating to finally make it to the 5th round and you are playing in Waller instead of JerryWorld.

I am not trying to smack talk or anything like that.
I have always liked you and your insights, and I usually enjoy reading your posts.
The gloating is out of character.

I know Navasota is a good team.
This Brahma team can beat them.
History has a way of repeating itself.

Anyway, I am really pumped for the game.
Best of luck to both teams.

Brahmas by 7.

Like I said, you are the only person in the State of Texas, including Bellville, that doesn't know how good Navasota is. That crazy part is that you are always poping off at the mouth without even seeing the Rattlers play. And, that not only holds true for this years, but for year's past.

I have never liked anything you have had to say because you always find a way to find something negative. Hell, you would ruin a wet dream.

And, it's not called gloating. I've seen all that I need to see between the two schools and IMO, I feel that Navasota should win this game with out problem. Yes, I am aware of the history of Navasota vs Bellville. I'm also aware of the history of Navasota in the quarterfinals. Remember this, NAVASOTA 38 WEST ORANGE STARK 7. While Navasota is busy rewriting Rattler history, all you can talk about is Navasota finally getting out of the quarterfinals. Now, had you been representive Carthage or Lake Travis, you probably would have room to talk. But, Bellville hasn't even come close to having the success that the Rattlers have had over the past 6 years. So, say what you want, but I would rather be able to talk about going deep into the playoffs rather than not even making the post season.

Also, if it were Stephenville or even if we had to go against La Marque or Coldspring again, I know that all of those oppenents could beat Navasota without a laundry list of what ifs. You constantly keep talking about what they did in junior high, what if this, what if that, if we have this type of game, if Navasota get fustrated, Navasota and discipline...etc, All of it is just a bunch of BS.

It is ok to support your team, but PLEASE give Navasota's history a rest. Hell, atleast see what Navasota has to offer. Afterall, so many people can't be wrong about the Rattlers. And, the scores speak for themself.

To my friends in Bellville, Good Luck and I pray that both teams stay injury free.

Go SNAKES!

[Manso/V8]

Li
Hell, you would ruin a wet dream.

Also, if it were Stephenville or even if we had to go against La Marque or Coldspring again, I know that all of those oppenents could beat Navasota without a laundry list of what ifs. You constantly keep talking about what they did in junior high, what if this, what if that, if we have this type of game, if Navasota get fustrated, Navasota and discipline...etc, All of it is just a bunch of BS.

It is ok to support your team, but PLEASE give Navasota's history a rest. Hell, atleast see what Navasota has to offer. Afterall, so many people can't be wrong about the Rattlers. And, the scores speak for themself.

To my friends in Bellville, Good Luck and I pray that both teams stay injury free.

Go SNAKES!

Say what you want about your team or Bellville, but please, DO NOT INCLUDE ME IN YOUR WET DREAMS.

You must be really frustrated because you are twisting the facts.
I don't agree with your statements, but we will have to finish the discussion tomorrow.

Brahmas by 7,

[sTxforlife]

First off 2010 caldwells offense is not even close to as good as Bellvilles this year.second I'm pretty sure there is a team playing for a state championship this week that bellville played. Any Caldwell team in the last 5 years should not be compared to this team.how disrespectful! Pretty sure u wouldn't clobber el campo. Lol good try tho
Navasota would beat El Campo by 3 tds, not to say I don't think El Campo is a good team because I think they are very good! But Navasota is just on a whole different level than every team in the state this year!

[Manso/V8]

Navasota would beat El Campo by 3 tds, not to say I don't think El Campo is a good team because I think they are very good! But Navasota is just on a whole different level than every team in the state this year!

So, how do you think the 2010 Sealy Tigers would have fared against the 2012 Rattlers?

Didn't you argue that Sealy played Navasota close in their scrimmage this year?

[sTxforlife]

So, how do you think the 2010 Sealy Tigers would have fared against the 2012 Rattlers?

Didn't you argue that Sealy played Navasota close in their scrimmage this year?
Navasota beat Sealy 1-0 when the starters were playing in the scrimmage, the other 4 TDs were scored when Navasota's 1st team skill players were still playing against Sealy's backups. I'm not sure how the 2010 Tigers would have done against this year's Rattler team. They pretty much are the same type of team offensively, but Navasota's defense and coaching is much better than what our's was that year. I think it would have been a shoot out and a very entertaining game to say the least.

[hookandladder]

Like I said, you are the only person in the State of Texas, including Bellville, that doesn't know how good Navasota is. That crazy part is that you are always poping off at the mouth without even seeing the Rattlers play. And, that not only holds true for this years, but for year's past.

I have never liked anything you have had to say because you always find a way to find something negative. Hell, you would ruin a wet dream.

And, it's not called gloating. I've seen all that I need to see between the two schools and IMO, I feel that Navasota should win this game with out problem. Yes, I am aware of the history of Navasota vs Bellville. I'm also aware of the history of Navasota in the quarterfinals. Remember this, NAVASOTA 38 WEST ORANGE STARK 7. While Navasota is busy rewriting Rattler history, all you can talk about is Navasota finally getting out of the quarterfinals. Now, had you been representive Carthage or Lake Travis, you probably would have room to talk. But, Bellville hasn't even come close to having the success that the Rattlers have had over the past 6 years. So, say what you want, but I would rather be able to talk about going deep into the playoffs rather than not even making the post season.

Also, if it were Stephenville or even if we had to go against La Marque or Coldspring again, I know that all of those oppenents could beat Navasota without a laundry list of what ifs. You constantly keep talking about what they did in junior high, what if this, what if that, if we have this type of game, if Navasota get fustrated, Navasota and discipline...etc, All of it is just a bunch of BS.

It is ok to support your team, but PLEASE give Navasota's history a rest. Hell, atleast see what Navasota has to offer. Afterall, so many people can't be wrong about the Rattlers. And, the scores speak for themself.

To my friends in Bellville, Good Luck and I pray that both teams stay injury free.

Go SNAKES!

Navasota is a solid team this year just like the past 4 or 5 years, are they the best team in 3A . That question will not be answered this year because they will not play EC or Stephenville to know for sure. Weather you or the rest of the Navasota fans want to admitt it , Navasota is beatable and a team that has a ground game can beat you if they play a great game. You take my opinion as if I am degrading Navasota , that is just not true. I am just giving my opinion of what it will take to beat a solid Navasota team, either team will represent our area well in JerryWorld. Good Luck to both teams.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Navasota is a solid team this year just like the past 4 or 5 years, are they the best team in 3A . That question will not be answered this year because they will not play EC or Stephenville to know for sure. Weather you or the rest of the Navasota fans want to admitt it , Navasota is beatable and a team that has a ground game can beat you if they play a great game. You take my opinion as if I am degrading Navasota , that is just not true. I am just giving my opinion of what it will take to beat a solid Navasota team, either team will represent our area well in JerryWorld. Good Luck to both teams.

I actually don't take anything as degrading to Navasota, especially when it comes from you.

You are another poster that lives in the past. Obviously, ANY team is BEATABLE. Any person that watches sports knows that. All you can hang your hat on is Navasota's OT win over La Grange from a year ago. And, as much as you will not admit it, that's why you keep saying that Navasota is beatable. I am sure that you haven't seen Navasota play one single down but you seem to know that Navasota is beatable. Yes, Navasota is beatable. How so? You have stated that a team that can run on them can give Navasota a good game. Well sir, nobody has really been able to do that. And, at some point, the opponent's defense and special teams will have to deal with Navasota's offense. Navasota is a MONSTER in all aspects of the game. That's what you seem to not be wrapping your finger around. You can't get over that OT win for the Rattlers from a year ago.

Navasota has the #2 defense and # 1 offense in the state. Now that it's down to 6 teams remaining, make that the #1 offense and the #1 defense. We have been #1 since week two for a reason. No, I don't like going based on those stats but I am just putting it out there that this aint the same Navasota team from year's past.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course. But, man come on. Admit that you have not seen Navasota play and that you are going based on a game that, yes, La Grange almost won but almost doesn't count.

Navasota may very well win this game by 20+. But, at the end of the day, I am sure that you will find something to say. And, let me guess, "Navasota is Beatable."

[HEMOTOXIC]

Say what you want about your team or Bellville, but please, DO NOT INCLUDE ME IN YOUR WET DREAMS.

You must be really frustrated because you are twisting the facts.
I don't agree with your statements, but we will have to finish the discussion tomorrow.

Brahmas by 7,

You are a JOKE... Bring it!

BTW, here's something else for you to beat your head about, Harris has Navasota as a 24 point favorite...

[HEMOTOXIC]

Now, for today's headlines...

For all those Rattler fans out there, there will be a community pep rally for the Rattlers today starting at 6pm at Rattler Stadium.

[hookandladder]

I actually don't take anything as degrading to Navasota, especially when it comes from you.

You are another poster that lives in the past. Obviously, ANY team is BEATABLE. Any person that watches sports knows that. All you can hang your hat on is Navasota's OT win over La Grange from a year ago. And, as much as you will not admit it, that's why you keep saying that Navasota is beatable. I am sure that you haven't seen Navasota play one single down but you seem to know that Navasota is beatable. Yes, Navasota is beatable. How so? You have stated that a team that can run on them can give Navasota a good game. Well sir, nobody has really been able to do that. And, at some point, the opponent's defense and special teams will have to deal with Navasota's offense. Navasota is a MONSTER in all aspects of the game. That's what you seem to not be wrapping your finger around. You can't get over that OT win for the Rattlers from a year ago.

Navasota has the #2 defense and # 1 offense in the state. Now that it's down to 6 teams remaining, make that the #1 offense and the #1 defense. We have been #1 since week two for a reason. No, I don't like going based on those stats but I am just putting it out there that this aint the same Navasota team from year's past.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course. But, man come on. Admit that you have not seen Navasota play and that you are going based on a game that, yes, La Grange almost won but almost doesn't count.

Navasota may very well win this game by 20+. But, at the end of the day, I am sure that you will find something to say. And, let me guess, "Navasota is Beatable."

You have to admitt playing in the District that you were in this year has a lot to do with having the top defense and offense in the State, Your District had to be one of the weakest in the State. If stats are what you like to go on , go right ahead. Still feel this game will be closer then most feel, Every team is beatable.

[whitelightning5]

You jokers have kept me entertained this morning....

As a Bellville grad and player, let me try to give my unbiased point of view....

I have seen Navasota play this year and the only time I felt that they were beatable was against LM. That said, LM isn't just an ordinary team. If the ball had bounced their way on a couple of occasions (most notably the punter fumbling in the endzone and giving them a TD instead of taking a safety and the long TD run by the QB that was called back) we may be having a different discussion.

Bottomline, it's going to take a huge effort and almost perfect game from Bellville to have a chance at winning. A couple of Navasota turnovers will be required too.

[HEMOTOXIC]

You jokers have kept me entertained this morning....

As a Bellville grad and player, let me try to give my unbiased point of view....

I have seen Navasota play this year and the only time I felt that they were beatable was against LM. That said, LM isn't just an ordinary team. If the ball had bounced their way on a couple of occasions (most notably the punter fumbling in the endzone and giving them a TD instead of taking a safety and the long TD run by the QB that was called back) we may be having a different discussion.

Bottomline, it's going to take a huge effort and almost perfect game from Bellville to have a chance at winning. A couple of Navasota turnovers will be required too.

Having seen Navasota and Bellville play, I can respect your assessment and opinion more than someone who has not seen Navasota play the entire season.

Thanks for your unbiased opinion. And, I agree what what you have said.

[whitelightning5]

Having seen Navasota and Bellville play, I can respect your assessment and opinion more than someone who has not seen Navasota play the entire season.

Thanks for your unbiased opinion. And, I agree what what you have said.

Can someone mark the date and time? I just got that statement in writing.

[Dowork]

Navasota would beat El Campo by 3 tds, not to say I don't think El Campo is a good team because I think they are very good! But Navasota is just on a whole different level than every team in the state this year!

I swear the more u talk the more I realize how much u don't know football. U shouldn't be aloud to state any of ur opinions on hear anymore cause u sound like a moron.3tds u are out of ur mind.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Can someone mark the date and time? I just got that statement in writing.


Believe me... Someone will find that statement if needed in the future.

[whitelightning5]

Believe me... Someone will find that statement if needed in the future.

Man....people must be serious.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Man....people must be serious.

I have seen where people have dug up something that someone said from 2 or 3 years ago..

[whitelightning5]

I have seen where people have dug up something that someone said from 2 or 3 years ago..

You're kidding me....that is just janky.

[sTxforlife]

I swear the more u talk the more I realize how much u don't know football. U shouldn't be aloud to state any of ur opinions on hear anymore cause u sound like a moron.3tds u are out of ur mind.
Why do you continuously hate on everything I say? What makes you think I don't know football? I've seen both teams play and that is my assessment of what would happen if they were to play! No disrespect to El Campo, they are a very good football team, otherwise they wouldn't be in the state championship game this weekend, but like I and many of the Navasota posters have said this week and the many weeks prior to this, NAVASOTA IS A MACHINE!! And I sound like a moron? Maybe you should look up the right use of the word "aloud" before you try to insult me. And last time I checked as a member of this board I'm ALLOWED to express my opinion. Just because you don't agree with someone's ideas or what they're saying doesn't necessarily mean that that person is wrong.

[HEMOTOXIC]

You're kidding me....that is just janky.

Yeah, I'm serious man. They will hold you to everything that you have ever posted. That's why my Rattlers better win or I will not be able to show my face on this site again.

[TigerPride12]

Can anyone tell me how quick the stadium is going to fill up? not sure what time i should get there. And this thread has been by far the most intersting and entertaining all year long! haha thanks for all the insights and laughs that came along with the disputes. Good luck to both teams tomorrow night and keep it an injury free game!!

[whitelightning5]

Can anyone tell me how quick the stadium is going to fill up? not sure what time i should get there. And this thread has been by far the most intersting and entertaining all year long! haha thanks for all the insights and laughs that came along with the disputes. Good luck to both teams tomorrow night and keep it an injury free game!!

Depends upon which side you sit one.

Navasotoa will fill the stadium pretty quickly. My Bellville folks will linger in and most likely won't be full until kickoff.

[CABuckeye]

NR by 21

[HEMOTOXIC]

Can anyone tell me how quick the stadium is going to fill up? not sure what time i should get there. And this thread has been by far the most intersting and entertaining all year long! haha thanks for all the insights and laughs that came along with the disputes. Good luck to both teams tomorrow night and keep it an injury free game!!


Just to piggy back on what whitelightning said.. The stadium opens @ 5:30. And, I gaurantee that there will be hundreds of Navasota fans waiting to get in at that time. If nothing else, I would at least get there early enough to get a ticket or buy it in advance.

[OldBison75]

This message is being brought to you from North Dakota----Anybody that thinks Navasota can't stop the running teams better talk to Coldspring, WOS, LaMarque, Austin McCallum, and Fairfield. Thoise five teams were not in our district and all made the playoffs. All had less than 200 yards total offense except LaMarque. La Marque had a QB that racked up alot of yards on Johnny Manziel type playmaking. He was the best player we faced all year in my opinion.

That said, I predict that the Rattlers will give up less than 150 yards rushing Friday Night. If Bellville cant find at least 150 passing they have no chance. Like I said before, score 30+ if you want to win. The Rallters will score 30+.

The end.

[whitelightning5]

Just to piggy back on what whitelightning said.. The stadium opens @ 5:30. And, I gaurantee that there will be hundreds of Navasota fans waiting to get in at that time. If nothing else, I would at least get there early enough to get a ticket or buy it in advance.

I'm hoping that the Bellville side won't be full by the time that I get there. I get off at 6P and work in Conroe.

[Manso/V8]

This message is being brought to you from North Dakota----Anybody that thinks Navasota can't stop the running teams better talk to Coldspring, WOS, LaMarque, Austin McCallum, and Fairfield. Thoise five teams were not in our district and all made the playoffs. All had less than 200 yards total offense except LaMarque. La Marque had a QB that racked up alot of yards on Johnny Manziel type playmaking. He was the best player we faced all year in my opinion.

That said, I predict that the Rattlers will give up less than 150 yards rushing Friday Night. If Bellville cant find at least 150 passing they have no chance. Like I said before, score 30+ if you want to win. The Rallters will score 30+.

The end.

You make some good points.
Bellville will have to play their best game to get the win.
We will just have to see how this thing turns out.
I like our chances.

It is too bad you have to miss the game.
I hope you can catch it on the webcast.

How's the weather in North Dakota?

[whitelightning5]

OK....Navasota fans....just to make things interesting and keep this going....

If you had to put a percentage on this game.....what are the odds the Bellville wins?

[HEMOTOXIC]

I'm hoping that the Bellville side won't be full by the time that I get there. I get off at 6P and work in Conroe.

Same here... well, the Woodlands that is. I'm going to try to leave work by 4:45...

[HEMOTOXIC]

OK....Navasota fans....just to make things interesting and keep this going....

If you had to put a percentage on this game.....what are the odds the Bellville wins?

50/50%:crazy1:

[whitelightning5]

50/50%:crazy1:

I know you better than that (and I dont even know you).....50/50.....come on now.

You probably think its a 1% chance....maybe even less.

[HEMOTOXIC]

I know you better than that (and I dont even know you).....50/50.....come on now.

You probably think its a 1% chance....maybe even less.

Hey, it's the semifinals. We have been in this same position that Bellville is in playing against Liberty Hill, Gilmer, and Chapel Hill.

[SHSBulldog00]

Navasota 87% Bellville 13%

[whitelightning5]

Navasota 87% Bellville 13%

A good honest response....I'll take that. I would imagine that is a higher percentage than most would give.

[whitelightning5]

For your reading pleasure....

http://brazosfootball.com/2012/navasota-vs-bellville-preview/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=navasota-vs-bellville-preview

[Dowork]

This is what I got. Navasota is really athletic and has great speed. #12 and 2 are great athletes who make a lot of plays. #15 does a great job getting the ball to his playmakers.defensively they are solid.very impressed with 68 and 33. Both are good athletes and make plays.i believe that if navasota comes out throwing they will turn the ball over enough to keep bellville in this game.bellvilles secondary is not the most athletic and tend to give up some big plays sometimes but make some great ones as well in the form of turnovers(26 ints this year). I have no doubt that there secondary can play with these guys. If navasota has 3 turnovers or more they will lose...mark my words.on the other hand bellville will have to take care of the ball and if they do that they will score points against this navasota D,maybe not 30 but enough to win.the big play and turnovers will decide this game.also another thought a lot of big plays have came off those little wr quick screens, if bellville can shut those down navasota will have trouble moving the ball.

[HEMOTOXIC]

This is what I got. Navasota is really athletic and has great speed. #12 and 2 are great athletes who make a lot of plays. #15 does a great job getting the ball to his playmakers.defensively they are solid.very impressed with 68 and 33. Both are good athletes and make plays.i believe that if navasota comes out throwing they will turn the ball over enough to keep bellville in this game.bellvilles secondary is not the most athletic and tend to give up some big plays sometimes but make some great ones as well in the form of turnovers(26 ints this year). I have no doubt that there secondary can play with these guys. If navasota has 3 turnovers or more they will lose...mark my words.on the other hand bellville will have to take care of the ball and if they do that they will score points against this navasota D,maybe not 30 but enough to win.the big play and turnovers will decide this game.also another thought a lot of big plays have came off those little wr quick screens, if bellville can shut those down navasota will have trouble moving the ball.

FYI, we had 3 turnovers against LaMarque, 2 against WOS and 2 against China Spring. And, Navasota will come out throwing... Baker has of 4000 yards and 8 ints... I like his chances not to throw an interception.

[SintonFan]

Go BELLVILLE BRAHMAS!!!!!!!

[SintonFan_inAustin]

This is what I got. Navasota is really athletic and has great speed. #12 and 2 are great athletes who make a lot of plays. #15 does a great job getting the ball to his playmakers.defensively they are solid.very impressed with 68 and 33. Both are good athletes and make plays.i believe that if navasota comes out throwing they will turn the ball over enough to keep bellville in this game.bellvilles secondary is not the most athletic and tend to give up some big plays sometimes but make some great ones as well in the form of turnovers(26 ints this year). I have no doubt that there secondary can play with these guys. If navasota has 3 turnovers or more they will lose...mark my words.on the other hand bellville will have to take care of the ball and if they do that they will score points against this navasota D,maybe not 30 but enough to win.the big play and turnovers will decide this game.also another thought a lot of big plays have came off those little wr quick screens, if bellville can shut those down navasota will have trouble moving the ball.Bellville offense got pushed around against Port Isabel and seeing Navasota on the videos, dont see Bellville offense having any success if they gave them the ball at the Navasota 20.

Now Bellville defense looks legit to keep them in the game but they'll be tested this week and might be on the field alot. Good luck to Bellville and shock us all by beating this Region 3 beast of a team.

[striker]

Hot from the NHS Media production crew...
Navasota vs. West Orange-Stark highlights

http://youtu.be/_BNx2KFY9hM

[Manso/V8]

Navasota is beatable.
Navasota is beatable.
Yes, Navasota is beatable.
"Navasota is Beatable."

Hemo - I know I told you I would get back to you, sorry it took so long, I was traveling today. Anyway, I read through your posts and found #337 (to Hook), and thought it was a good summary of what we have been talking about this week. It was kind of long, so I just distilled it down to the key points (see above) that you made. We are on the same page. You have come a long way since your first post Saturday night.

Seriously, enjoy the game and all the fun atmosphere.
Best of luck to both teams and here's to a hard fought, clean, injury free game.

Brahmas by 7.

[Dowork]

FYI, we had 3 turnovers against LaMarque, 2 against WOS and 2 against China Spring. And, Navasota will come out throwing... Baker has of 4000 yards and 8 ints... I like his chances not to throw an interception.

That's a lot of turnovers for playoff football.but the brahmas have given it away to.so maybe it will cancel out.who knows

[zebrablue2]

Game day, may both teams play injury free, and lets have one to talk about for many yrs to come. Go Bulls!!!

[vtskneb]

Hemo - I know I told you I would get back to you, sorry it took so long, I was traveling today. Anyway, I read through your posts and found #337 (to Hook), and thought it was a good summary of what we have been talking about this week. It was kind of long, so I just distilled it down to the key points (see above) that you made. We are on the same page. You have come a long way since your first post Saturday night.

Seriously, enjoy the game and all the fun atmosphere.
Best of luck to both teams and here's to a hard fought, clean, injury free game.

Brahmas by 7.

Hemo, at least he is consistent. If you have looked at some of the things he has spewed about Stephenville and their players this year you would see you can have a more intellectual conversation with a doorknob. I really wish Navasota the best, it sucks the current playoff format did not match our two teams up this year. It would have been epic.

[1971Coogs]

Hot from the NHS Media production crew...
Navasota vs. West Orange-Stark highlights

http://youtu.be/_BNx2KFY9hM
Good stuff....they really should consider using an "up top" camera. The action is too fast for sideline cams to follow correctly. Just IMO

[HEMOTOXIC]

That's a lot of turnovers for playoff football.but the brahmas have given it away to.so maybe it will cancel out.who knows

I agree.. Way too many tunrovers. But the scary thing is, with the exception of LaMarque, none of the other games were close. And, that was with the turnovers. BTW, those turnovers weren't all interceptions... He had 2 interceptions against WOS, 1 against La Marque and 1 against China Spring.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Hemo, at least he is consistent. If you have looked at some of the things he has spewed about Stephenville and their players this year you would see you can have a more intellectual conversation with a doorknob. I really wish Navasota the best, it sucks the current playoff format did not match our two teams up this year. It would have been epic.

Thanks. Good Luck to Stephenville as well!

[HEMOTOXIC]

http://www.brazossports.com/football/article_5f9a045c-b97b-58b2-9665-44aaa5f32805.html

Navasota set to face Bellville in semifinals

By LARRY BOWEN larry.bowen@theeagle.com | 0 comments




In many ways, Navasota and Bellville are as different as two football teams can be, at least two teams still playing in the 15th week of the season.

Navasota's Rattlers are undefeated and ranked No. 1 in the state. They have a high-powered passing game that is a highlight waiting to happen.

Bellville's Brahmas have lost three games, more than the other three semifinalists in their division combined, and Bellville did not make the Top 10 in the final rankings. The Brahmas rely on a run-heavy offense better suited to making first downs than highlights.

There is, however, a common quality between the Rattlers (14-0) and Brahmas (11-3), who will play in the Class 3A Division II state semifinals in Waller at 7 p.m. Friday.

They are true believers.

Navasota, seeking its first trip to the state final since 1988, is a huge favorite, picked by 24 points in the Harris Ratings. With Bellville sandwiched between last week's showdown against West Orange-Stark and a possible appearance at Cowboys Stadium for the state championship, this week's matchup appears to be an obvious trap game.

Rattlers coach Lee Fedora doesn't believe his team will take the bait.

"It would be [a trap game] if you don't have focused kids," Fedora said. "I'm not concerned with that at all because from our first game, our kids have not looked at their opponent. They look at what we're doing and making sure we execute the game plan. It says a lot about the leadership on our team and the team chemistry.

"We've had another great week of practice. I have not heard one kid talk about anything but Bellville."

Navasota has been one of the state's most talked-about 3A teams, a status boosted by last week's 38-7 thumping of previously unbeaten West Orange-Stark.

Bellville, which last reached the semifinals in 2002, advanced more quietly, beating unheralded Port Isabel 22-0 last week. The second-place finisher in District 25-3A behind Division I finalist El Campo, the Brahmas are bigger underdogs than all but one team in the state this weekend.

"Our kids believe," Bellville coach Grady Rowe said. "Everybody else is saying we're not going to be able to stay on the field with them. We're not paying attention to what anybody else says. As long as the Bellville Brahmas believe they can win, that's all that I'm concerned about.

"We know we're going up against an extremely well-coached, athletic team. But they're going to put 11 men on the field just like we are."

Both teams have stout defenses or they would not have made it this far in the playoffs. On Friday, both defensive units will face special challenges.

Navasota was a blocked punt away from shutting out a West Orange-Stark team that relied on the run. The Rattler defense, led by lineman Jordan Wells and linebackers Dustin Savensky and Jaylyin Minor, will face a different type of running attack in Bellville's Slot-T offense.

The Brahmas have rushed for 3,559 yards, almost three times as many as they have gained through the air. Running back LaKeiath Nunn and wingback Bronson Allen have combined for nearly 2,000 yards and 24 touchdowns.

"They do a lot of different things to try to get you mixed up and confused," Fedora said. "We've got to be very focused reading our keys."

Ball control might be Bellville's best chance. Rowe would love for his team to grind out first downs and hang on to the football.

The Rattlers have one of the most potent combinations in the state with quarterback Kadarius Baker, receivers Austin Collins and Solomon McGinty, plus running back Xavier Creeks. Baker has thrown for more than 4,000 yards, with Collins and McGinty combining to catch 157 passes for 3,177 yards and 45 touchdowns.

Last week against West Orange-Stark, the speedy Collins caught two touchdown passes, returned an interception for a touchdown and ran for another score from the wildcat formation. Collins touched the ball nine times and produced 215 yards.

Bellville's players have dyed their hair blonde in a show of team unity, but Navasota has the type of play-makers who make coaches' hair turn gray.

"We've got to prevent the big play," Rowe said. "They are explosive offensively. We need to be able to run the ball and control the clock, to put some drives together where we're keeping their offense off the field."

•

NOTES -- The Navasota-Bellville winner will advance to the state final to play either Graham (13-1) or Gilmer (13-1), who will play Friday night in Mansfield. The 3A Division II championship game is scheduled for 4 p.m. Dec. 21 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington. ... Navasota and Bellville both are seeking their first state football title. ... Navasota's Fedora won a coin flip to play the game at Waller on Friday. Bellville officials wanted to play at the Berry Center in Cy-Fair on Saturday. Fedora has gone 5 for 5 on coin flips during the postseason. ... Fedora could be joined by a fellow A&M Consolidated graduate in the final. Graham head coach Kenny Davidson graduated from Consol in 1977. ... The capacity listed for Waller Stadium is 10,000. Last week more than 11,000 fans attended the Navasota game against West Orange-Stark in Humble. Since Navasota and Bellville are both within easy driving distance of Waller, a standing-room-only crowd is almost certain for the semifinal. ... Tickets at the gate will cost $10.

[ogg]

Who wins?

Navasota wins, by 4 TDs.

[whitelightning5]

HEMO....coming from the Woodlands, what is the quickest route (considering traffic) to the stadium? Do you take 1488 or do you go down to 2920 and battle that traffic?

[HEMOTOXIC]

HEMO....coming from the Woodlands, what is the quickest route (considering traffic) to the stadium? Do you take 1488 or do you go down to 2920 and battle that traffic?

I've actually tried both.. 2920 is horrible when it comes to traffic. I will be taking 1488 for sure.

[defense51]

Good luck to both teams tonight!
Snakes by 14+

[OldBison75]

I talked to Karnack the Magnificent this morning and the great seer and soothsayer gave me his prediction for tonights battle. Since Karnack is always right, I will stick with his numbers. Navasota 38 Bellville 14.

If karnack is wrong, he said to let those that disagree know that he wishes that their soups be cooked in the sweat of 22 raging Bulls.

[HEMOTOXIC]

http://www.brazossports.com/football/article_47ea4190-9e60-50a3-beea-bec9b370f1ef.html

Navasota playoff run brings back memories

There are few advantages to getting old. Trust me on this. But the best one is being able to remember some things that others could never have experienced.

Navasota's advance to the state semifinals this season jogged an old memory, the last time the Rattlers qualified for a semifinal.

It was a The Way We Were moment for me -- "misty water-color memories" as Barbra Streisand once sang. But Barbra was married to Robert Redford in that movie. Now she's traveling cross-country with Seth Rogen. Time can also be cruel.

I covered the state quarterfinal game between Navasota and Fairfield in Huntsville, on the sideline with my Nikon FM2 camera. Man, that motor drive sounded cool. Apparently, newspapers now prefer quality in their photographs to what I turned in.

I was also keeping notes for my story and was ready to mark down a Fairfield win, with the Eagles driving and in the lead. Fairfield was a true Wishbone triple option team, something you have probably never seen if you're 35 or younger. The Eagles were the playoff team I got to cover in 1988 for the Corsicana Daily Sun, and they were outstanding. Randy Angel, an exceptional coach and one of my all-time favorites, was in his second season there and on his way to becoming by far the winningest coach in Fairfield history.

But Fairfield didn't win that quarterfinal game because a fumble gave Navasota one last chance, and the Rattlers knew when it was time to follow a leader. Navasota's exceptional running back, Rolando West, shifted to quarterback and led the game-winning drive.

West was a tremendous runner, but all he did on the 87-yard drive was stand tall in the pocket and throw darts. I had to look up some of the names, but I distinctly remember West. That Navasota team rallied around him and eventually played for a state championship because of it. West had three completions for 77 yards on the march. The archives tell me Macley Wells caught two of them, for 38 and 18 yards, and that Victor Ross scored the game-winning touchdown with 38 seconds left. Navasota got into the semifinals with a 13-10 win.

The Rattlers went on to take a typically-tough 14-8 win over Sweeny in Katy the following week and then played Southlake Carroll for the title.

I had no other team to cover, so I sat in a very cold Baylor Stadium (not yet Floyd Casey) and watched Southlake Carroll play a nearly perfect game to win the 3A championship 42-8. There was only one title to play for in each classification then. But Rolando West and the 1988 Rattlers made me want to see Navasota play again.

When Fairfield was included on Navasota's schedule this season, I thought about that. Maybe the road to state leads though Fairfield.

I was cold that 1988 December night, but football has come a long way since then. If Navasota beats Bellville on Friday, we could all be in climate-controlled comfort for the 3A Division II championship game at Cowboys Stadium.

Thanks for the memories. How much fun is it that the 2012 Rattlers are creating new ones?

•

Sometimes first impressions tell you most of what you need to know. While the AP poll changed dramatically this season, the initial poll was a decent preview of the season to come.

In Class 5A, Katy was ranked fourth and Cibolo Steele fifth in that poll, which debuted in August. They play one another in the 5A Division II semifinals at 2 p.m. Saturday at Baylor's Floyd Casey Stadium. Then-No. 7 DeSoto and No. 8 Allen are meeting in a 5A Division I semifinal at 6 p.m. Saturday at SMU's Ford Stadium. Austin Westlake, which plays its Division II semifinal against Cedar Hill at Waco ISD Stadium at 2 p.m. Saturday, also drew votes in the preseason poll.

In 4A, Denton Guyer was No. 1 and Tyler John Tyler was ranked third. Guess what? They play in a Division I semifinal at 7:30 p.m. Friday in Midlothian. Wichita Falls Rider, which takes on Lancaster at Justin Northwest at 7:30 Friday p.m., held the No. 8 ranking.

The Rattlers have held the top ranking for so long that it may be hard to remember that Navasota started the season tied for fifth in 3A. The Rattlers will play a Bellville team that drew votes in the first poll. Their Division II semifinal is in Waller at 7 p.m. Friday.

Stephenville was the No. 1 team in the 3A preseason poll, and the Yellowjackets will face an unbeaten El Campo team in the 3A Division championship game at 7:30 p.m. Friday at Cowboys Stadium. El Campo didn't even get a preseason vote. OK, the poll whiffed on the Ricebirds.

It did pretty well in 2A, though. Preseason No. 2 Cameron and No. 4 Newton are meeting in a Division I semifinal at The Woodlands' Woodforest Bank Stadium at 7:30 p.m. Friday. The other semifinal pits then-No. 3 Daingerfield against No. 8 Wall, who are set to play 7:30 p.m. Friday at Waco ISD Stadium.

Mart topped the Class A poll when it was first released and the Panthers will face Shiner at 7:30 p.m. Friday at Round Rock's Kelly Reeves Complex. Preseason No. 3 Munday is taking on Wellington in Wichita Falls at 7 p.m. Friday. Wellington was the first team receiving votes in the preseason poll, effectively ranked 11th. Tenaha was fourth and Falls City was fifth and they will play at the Berry Center in Cypress in a Class A Division II game.

A lot of these teams dropped out of the poll during the year as regular-season upsets kept it shifting. But there was something good there from the beginning. And for many, it's still there.

Three to watch

statewide

1. Stephenville vs. El Campo -- The 3A Division I title game gets a championship weekend of its own, although it sort of sounds like a 4A championship. Stephenville has been a highlight team from the beginning of the year. El Campo has steadily shoved its way into the spotlight.

2. Katy vs. Cibolo Steele -- It's hard to see anyone derailing Katy's runaway freight train of a season, but if there is a team that can do it, unbeaten, body-bruising Steele may be the one.

3. Sonora vs. Mildred -- One game does not a season make. Mildred is back in position to qualify for the state championship despite giving up 70 points in its only loss, to Centerville. And the Eagles might have the hottest offense going right now.

•

Here are this week's picks:

Friday

Navasota vs. Bellville -- Shake, rattle and roll. Navasota 38-21

Cameron vs. Newton -- Versatility pays off. Cameron 38-35

Last week: 3-1 (.750)

Season total: 228-55 (.806)

Playoffs: 25-6 (.806)

[buff4ever]

Have I said that Navasota wins this game yet?

I think they win by 17.

Bellville's good season comes to an end tonight.

[Bull's-eye]

Never fear! Underdog is here!

548

[HEMOTOXIC]

Never fear! Underdog is here!

548


:fnypost:

[hollywood]

Best of luck to the Rattler's and Brahmas tonight. Safe travels to all the fans to and from.

May the best team win!

[pirate4state]

I would love for Region IV to represent at State again this year, but the Rattler's look very strong. Best of luck to Bellville! GATA!!! I'll see the winner next week, yay me! :D

[Saggy Aggie]

What is the seating situation gonna look like? I'm thinking about going to this one...

[JKat13]

You know, I'm all for praising your team, but IMO this is a little over the top from some of you Rattler folks... The end of the world must be coming next week because yall speak of your team as if they were the second coming of Christ!!! Look, no doubt Navasota is a great team, but NO TEAM, again maybe you didn't understand, NO TEAM is unbeatable. Mock me if you want, but I've been around football a long time, crazier things have happened... Hope it's a good clean game tonight, can't help but root for the little guys... Go Bellville!

[HEMOTOXIC]

You know, I'm all for praising your team, but IMO this is a little over the top from some of you Rattler folks... The end of the world must be coming next week because yall speak of your team as if they were the second coming of Christ!!! Look, no doubt Navasota is a great team, but NO TEAM, again maybe you didn't understand, NO TEAM is unbeatable. Mock me if you want, but I've been around football a long time, crazier things have happened... Hope it's a good clean game tonight, can't help but root for the little guys... Go Bellville!

Who said that anyone was unbeatable? And yes, Good Luck!

[HEMOTOXIC]

What is the seating situation gonna look like? I'm thinking about going to this one...

Get there early Saggy if you want a good seat.

[Saggy Aggie]

Get there early Saggie if you want a good seat.

Might end up sitting on the Bellville side just for seating purposes

[HEMOTOXIC]

Might end up sitting on the Bellville side just for seating purposes


Got ya..

[The Bull #40]

It's finally here, this is one of the longer threads I've seen and it's been a good one. Now the time for talking is over it's night for some good playoff football. hope rattler fans aren't planning on leaving early because I say this one comes down to the last two minutes. I have a good feeling Navasota is going to turn the ball over a lot more than they're used to. BULLS PARADE TOMORROW after defeating the "best high school team ever".......HAHA. The Rattlers seasons ends tonight! BULLS WIN 35-28!!! Here's to an injury free game.

[Manso/V8]

Game day.
Everyone take it all.
Enjoy the great moment.
Best of luck to both teams.
Here is to a hard fough, clean, injury free game!

[HEMOTOXIC]

Good Luck to both Navasota and my second favorite high school team, Bellville.

I'm going to try to leave work around 4:30 to head on over to Waller from the Woodlands.

Go SNAKES!

[JKat13]

Need some help. Want to listen to the game but I'm up here in Huntsville and I will be away from my computer or a radio. I know that Bellville streams the game on the internet, but apparently you can't if you have a Mac product (I have an iphone.) Will there be any radio stations that will be broadcasting the game that I can use a radio app for? Any help would be appreciated!

[OldBison75]

This week has been fun on here, lots of bravado and bragging. The fact of the matter is that we are fans and have the right to write all we want without ever having to back it on on the field of play. Tonight, two groups of high school athletes will take the field, both believing they will find a way to win. Both groups have strengths and weaknesses that the other will try to find a way to deal with. The only given in this issue is that these are kids that by the very nature of the beast means that their emotions and execution can be unpredictable. We don't play tonight's game on a piece of paper with statistical probabilities. It is played face to face, helmet to helmet, hand to hand. As fans we tend to project based on the best we have seen from our boys and discount the bad we have seen. Remember, no matter what the final score, this is a matchup of two teams that have worked very hard to get to this game and neither intends to go home and turn in equipment tonight. They want to play next week. As fans, give both sides the respect and honor to represent their team by cheering the good plays and avoid the unsportsmanlike behavior. At the end of the night, this is a group of kids that we depend on for the entertainment of watching a fierce competition. Give both sides the applause they deserve for the show you saw.

To all, I hope that this is a great game and that every single person involved, fans and players alike, leave the game with a great feeling for the accomplishments of the kids. I also pray for safe travels for everyone. Please remember that this is a chance most teams don't get and say a prayer for those children that were slain by a senseless killer at another school today.

God bless you all and Good Luck.

[OLE'BULL]

Need some help. Want to listen to the game but I'm up here in Huntsville and I will be away from my computer or a radio. I know that Bellville streams the game on the internet, but apparently you can't if you have a Mac product (I have an iphone.) Will there be any radio stations that will be broadcasting the game that I can use a radio app for? Any help would be appreciated!

94.1 out of college station. There is a radio app you can download that let's you listen to almost any radio station, this station is on there. I use Tunein Radio but there are others. It's a shame ya can't make this one, glad I can. Hope that helped!

[HEMOTOXIC]

Need some help. Want to listen to the game but I'm up here in Huntsville and I will be away from my computer or a radio. I know that Bellville streams the game on the internet, but apparently you can't if you have a Mac product (I have an iphone.) Will there be any radio stations that will be broadcasting the game that I can use a radio app for? Any help would be appreciated!

http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?120703-Round-5-Webcasts

[1st and goal]

Hope everybody travels safe, and prayers for a neutrally officiated, injury free game.

Wish I could be there but I have to work on my Suburban... :(

[BrahmaMom]

It's GAME DAY! Can't wait! GO BIG RED!!!!

[44INAROW]

It's GAME DAY! Can't wait! GO BIG RED!!!!

Good Luck to the Brahma Nation!

[Tejastrue]

Best of luck tonight Bellville. There are at least 17 others on here pulling for the Brahmas but most it seems are giving you no chance. Looking for you to prove the nay sayers wrong. Play your best and you'll be just fine. Go Bulls!!


I echoe 1st and goal's comment for all... "Hope everybody travels safe, and prayers for a neutrally officiated, injury free game."

[HEMOTOXIC]

Just got word that parking is already an issue.

[Roughneck93]

Just got word that parking is already an issue.

Not surprised. It was bad in Humble last week as well.

[11TARPON]

What time is game time? Good luck to both teams. Winners get a trip to Dallas.

[MJMbrahmas10]

Cars backed up a mile in line waiting to park

[bobcat1]

Good Luck Rattlers and Brahmas! May the best team win. Here's to an injury free, well played game!

[navscanmaster]

Okay Rattlers, I am set up in my hotel room in Cotulla ready for some great Rattler football! Go Big Blue!

[McHi]

What time is game time? Good luck to both teams. Winners get a trip to Dallas.

Tarpon 11 you can here the game at the following link:
http://v5.player.abacast.com/v5.1/player/index.php?uid=6331

[11TARPON]

Tarpon 11 you can here the game at the following link:
http://v5.player.abacast.com/v5.1/player/index.php?uid=6331thanks

[McHi]

:clap: Navasotaaaaaaaa Field Goallllllllllllll ( Navasota 3 - Bellville zeroooooooooooooooo! ) :clap:

[McHi]

:clap: Navasotaaaaa Touchdownnnnnnnnnnnn! (Navasota 10 - Bellville zerooooooooooooooo! ) :clap:

[McHi]

:clap: Bellvilleeeeeeeeeeeee Touchdownnnnnnnnnnnnnn ( Navasota 10 - Bellville 7 ) :clap:

[McHi]

:clap: Wow Wow!! Navasotaaaaaaaa Touchdownnnn 100 yard kickoff return ( Navasota 17 - Bellville 7 ) :clap:

[McHi]

:flaming: Bellville blows a touchdown by calling a timeout, what a coaching call! :flaming:

[McHi]

:blush: Navasota 17 - Bellville 7 ( Halftime ) :vrycnfsd:

[11TARPON]

Tarpon 11 you can here the game at the following link:
http://v5.player.abacast.com/v5.1/player/index.php?uid=6331

McHi I missed Bellville' TD. How did they score ? Long drive?

[McHi]

Long pass to the Navasota 8 yard line!

[McHi]

:clap: Navasotaaaaaaaaaa Touchdownnnnnnn ( Navasota 24 - Bellville 7 ) :clap:

[McHi]

:weeping: Bellville fans are leaving the game according to Navasota News 1550 KWBC-AM - WoW :weeping:

[Football DAD]

I don't see many Bellville fans online.

[McHi]

No just a few on this thread!

[Football DAD]

Ehats the score now?

[McHi]

Navasota 24 - Bellville 7 ( Navasota at the 14 yard line of Bellville with 1:20 left in the 4th qtr. )

[McHi]

:clap: Navasota wins - Navasota wins - Navasota wins :clap:

:clap: Navasota 24 - Bellville 7 :clap: Navasota wins by 17 points :clap:

[Football DAD]

Congrats to Navasota. Great season Bellville.

[bobcat1]

Congrats to Navasota. Great season Bellville.

+1:2thumbsup

[Tejastrue]

:clap: Navasota wins - Navasota wins - Navasota wins :clap:

:clap: Navasota 24 - Bellville 7 :clap: Navasota wins by 17 points :clap:

Were you not a Tarpon fan??

[BrahmaMom]

Congratulations to the Rattlers on a great game and great season--best of luck next week! Brahmas, congratulations on a hard fought game and representing your school and town with pride. We are proud of you and the memories you made for all of us this season. Hold your heads high and treasure this magical time of your lives. Seniors, what a ride and what a way to leave your mark. Underclassmen, next season starts tomorrow! Brahma Proud!

[OldBison75]

Congratulations to the Rattlers on a great game and great season--best of luck next week! Brahmas, congratulations on a hard fought game and representing your school and town with pride. We are proud of you and the memories you made for all of us this season. Hold your heads high and treasure this magical time of your lives. Seniors, what a ride and what a way to leave your mark. Underclassmen, next season starts tomorrow! Brahma Proud!

Maam, you are my hero. You are entirely correct--Bellville should be proud of the kids on that field tonight. All heart and pride. They are the citizens of Bellville's reflection. Great town and great people.

[zebrablue2]

:flaming: Bellville blows a touchdown by calling a timeout, what a coaching call! :flaming:

There was no timeout called sir, except for the one by the official 40 yds away from the coach. They had 7 officials for this game, and #7 on the field turned out to be the snakes 12th man. Bellvilles QB scored on the play, and it was wiped out. Never seen something so crazy in my life. Bellville coach walked out on the field with both arms out, saying I called nothing. Score would have been 17-13 at that point, big turn around...

[MJMbrahmas10]

Great season bulls!

[garciap77]

Congrats to Navasota!!!

[McHi]

Were you not a Tarpon fan??

I am a McHi Bulldog fan (First), I just simply support any valley football team in the playoffs. McHi is a 5(A) and not a 3(A) school.

http://highschoolsportsmagazine.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/McHi-vs-Laredo-United-South.jpg

[Dowork]

First off I want to say congrats to navasota they are a good football team and a class act.i hope they win it all.next congrats to the brahmas on a great season.there is no doubt they are one of the best teams in the state of Texas and they proved it tonight.they have more heart on one team then I have seen in 20 years.even Fadora mentioned that at the end how hard and how much heart bellville has. To all the people who thought they would get blown out. None of u obviously know football.this was a hard fought game and a few calls and plays decided the game.it was a really close game which the score doesn't show.

[OLE'BULL]

First off I want to say congrats to navasota they are a good football team and a class act.i hope they win it all.next congrats to the brahmas on a great season.there is no doubt they are one of the best teams in the state of Texas and they proved it tonight.they have more heart on one team then I have seen in 20 years.even Fadora mentioned that at the end how hard and how much heart bellville has. To all the people who thought they would get blown out. None of u obviously know football.this was a hard fought game and a few calls and plays decided the game.it was a really close game which the score doesn't show.

I agree with almost all of your post. There were some teams in the earlier 2000's that set the tone for Brahma Football. Argue with me and you don't know Brahma Football. Just sayin'...

[MJMbrahmas10]

What was the last bellville team to make it this far?

[OLE'BULL]

What was the last bellville team to make it this far?

2002

[striker]

Great game by both Bellville and Navasota tonight. What great fan support from both communities and such a great atmosphere for Texas High School Football tonight. #GoRattlers #RattlerNation

[MJMbrahmas10]

Thanks. An the loss came to bandera?

[Dowork]

I agree with almost all of your post. There were some teams in the earlier 2000's that set the tone for Brahma Football. Argue with me and you don't know Brahma Football. Just sayin'...

O I'm sorry u misunderstood me.what I met was all around the state.im not from bellville.im just talking about the different teams I have seen around the state.no disrespect to any of those teams in the 2000s.i did not see them play! Very sorry for the misunderstanding

[defense51]

Congrats to Navasota and good luck next week!

Congrats to Bellville on a great season.

[BrahmaMOMMA]

next congrats to the brahmas on a great season.there is no doubt they are one of the best teams in the state of Texas and they proved it tonight.they have more heart on one team then I have seen in 20 years..

Early in season thier saying was "One Heartbeat" I agree they play with alot of heart.

Congrats to Navasota on the win and Good Luck next week!!

[Manso/V8]

What a great game! A great atmosphere. It was a hard fought battle and tremendous effort from both teams. Despite all of pressure and intensity, both teams played clean and showed respect. A big congrats to the Rattlers, you earned the win and the trip to JerryWorld. You have some great athletes and a very good team. You responded to and capitalized on situations like a champion should. The post game comments from Coach Fedora and sportsmanship displayed by your players was genuine and appreciated. A class act all the way around. It is tough to have our season come to an end, but it takes some of the sting away that it came at the hands of the 2012 Rattlers. Best of luck next Friday. Show the world how it is done Heart of Texas style and bring that state championship back to the Brazos Valley.

[Manso/V8]

Brahmas! Wow, we are all so proud of you. What a great season. You represented your school and our community well, and showed true characteer and integrity every step of the way. Making it to the semi-finals is something few teams get to experience. You will cherish these memories for years to come.

Seniors, you are the best group that has come through Bellville HS in many years. Your leadership and character on and off the field is impressive. Go make your mark on the world.

[OLE'BULL]

Thanks. An the loss came to bandera?

Yep!

[Eagle1]

Congratulations to the Rattlers on a great game and great season--best of luck next week! Brahmas, congratulations on a hard fought game and representing your school and town with pride. We are proud of you and the memories you made for all of us this season. Hold your heads high and treasure this magical time of your lives. Seniors, what a ride and what a way to leave your mark. Underclassmen, next season starts tomorrow! Brahma Proud!

It is great to see classy people who appreciate the hard work your players and coaches put into this season. Bellville you have alot to be proud of.

[YTBulldogs]

Great season Bellville. What a run my friends!!! Continued success to Navasota at State. Well deserved. Should be a great matchup.

[whitelightning5]

Congrats Navasota and Great Season Bellville.

My takes on last night.

Bellville - Played with tons of heart and emotion. Proud of the kids. I knew they weren't going to get blown out, as many predicted. I also knew we would need the ball to bounce our way a couple of times to get the win....that didnt happen. Poster's before are correct...the score should have been much closer than the final score. A TD called back by a phantom TIMEOUT call. On 4th down (same drive as the non-score listed before) from the 6 yard line, it appeared that our QB broke the plain twice (from the replay shown at the stadium), but it wasn't given to them. Also, had a bad center/holder exchange on a blocked field goal....those things happen. It seemed as if every time we had a drive going, picking up a few first downs in a row, the refs would hit us with some untimely chop block penalties.....2nd or 3rd and 20+ yards are just hard for our team to convert.

Navasota - I felt that the better team won. Though, they didnt appear to be clicking as I've seen in the past. I dont know if that was because of the defense, lack of concentration or because of the moment. There were several dropped balls by the WRs. The only consistent play that worked was the screen (WR or RB). Other than that they had fun running the ball down our throat while we dropped 8 into coverage.

Officials - As with any game, you have several missed calls (and that is both ways). The biggest of the game was the phantom timeout call. The official in the back of the end zone elects to negate the TD and blows a late whistle claiming that Bellville called a timeout. If you feel that there was a TO called....stop the play before the runner scores and before band starts playing the fight song (maybe it wasnt that bad). Also the other big call missed was on the kickoff return TD....there was a peel back block (helmet to helmet) on our QB. Per the new rules for player safety, this isnt allowed anymore. Our QB was about 15 yards behind the runner and someone had a good running start on him and laid him out. The official was right there and let it go....I don't get it.

Go get some NAVASOTA....represent our area well.

[navscanmaster]

Congrats Navasota and Great Season Bellville.

My takes on last night.

Bellville - Played with tons of heart and emotion. Proud of the kids. I knew they weren't going to get blown out, as many predicted. I also knew we would need the ball to bounce our way a couple of times to get the win....that didnt happen. Poster's before are correct...the score should have been much closer than the final score. A TD called back by a phantom TIMEOUT call. On 4th down (same drive as the non-score listed before) from the 6 yard line, it appeared that our QB broke the plain twice (from the replay shown at the stadium), but it wasn't given to them. Also, had a bad center/holder exchange on a blocked field goal....those things happen. It seemed as if every time we had a drive going, picking up a few first downs in a row, the refs would hit us with some untimely chop block penalties.....2nd or 3rd and 20+ yards are just hard for our team to convert.

Navasota - I felt that the better team won. Though, they didnt appear to be clicking as I've seen in the past. I dont know if that was because of the defense, lack of concentration or because of the moment. There were several dropped balls by the WRs. The only consistent play that worked was the screen (WR or RB). Other than that they had fun running the ball down our throat while we dropped 8 into coverage.

Officials - As with any game, you have several missed calls (and that is both ways). The biggest of the game was the phantom timeout call. The official in the back of the end zone elects to negate the TD and blows a late whistle claiming that Bellville called a timeout. If you feel that there was a TO called....stop the play before the runner scores and before band starts playing the fight song (maybe it wasnt that bad). Also the other big call missed was on the kickoff return TD....there was a peel back block (helmet to helmet) on our QB. Per the new rules for player safety, this isnt allowed anymore. Our QB was about 15 yards behind the runner and someone had a good running start on him and laid him out. The official was right there and let it go....I don't get it.

Go get some NAVASOTA....represent our area well.

Good observation. I have one question. On the supposed phantom timeout, I heard on the radio from the Navasota announcers that the Bellville coach was furious, but they also noted that the Rattler defenders had stopped at the whistle, and Fuchs basically went untouched into the endzone. The announcers did say that on the second third down attempt it looked like he had gotten in at first, but was marked about a foot and a half shy. What is your take?

Sorry, edited, also, after watching the replay of the kickoff on KBTX.com, the block appears to be a good clean block. He was hit hard, but I didn't see helmet to helmet from the field sideline angle.

[navscanmaster]

From www.brazossports.com article about the game:


"We called timeout," Bellville coach Grady Rowe said. "I didn't think [the officials] saw it, but they did. The emotions went up and down pretty quick, but our kids have overcome a lot of things all year long. I thought it was something we could respond to."

[whitelightning5]

Good observation. I have one question. On the supposed phantom timeout, I heard on the radio from the Navasota announcers that the Bellville coach was furious, but they also noted that the Rattler defenders had stopped at the whistle, and Fuchs basically went untouched into the endzone. The announcers did say that on the second third down attempt it looked like he had gotten in at first, but was marked about a foot and a half shy. What is your take?

Sorry, edited, also, after watching the replay of the kickoff on KBTX.com, the block appears to be a good clean block. He was hit hard, but I didn't see helmet to helmet from the field sideline angle.

Yeah. Coach Rowe was pissed. After talking with the other coaches on the sideline, he called time timeout, but it was disallowed by the head official and linesman on our side. The ref in the back of the end zone blew the play dead. He was pissed that neither of the refs closest to the situation would allow the timeout to happen and the other guy did. Also, I wouldnt say that they gave up on the play. He had 2 defenders on his back on the way into the endzone. From the angles, it was too hard to determine when he broke the plain and when he didnt. They reshowed the replay of the 4th down stop a few times and I thought he scored then. Not sure about the 3rd down play.

For the block....it most definitely was a hit to the helmet. You could clearly hear the pop. Regardless of location, rules are put into place to rid the game of peel back/blind side blocks.

[Manso/V8]

Don't take this as sour grapes, I am just curious. How does the rule book read on chop blocks? I have only seen a 2 maybe 3 of them called all year in our previous games, and I don't remember any being called on Bellville until last night..........and last night we got 3 called on us. One of the chop block calls was on a tight set were every player would of been been the hash marks, and I thought that it would be viewed differently on a play like that. Were we doing something different, or is there some degree of subjectivity and some refs call it more than others?

[957tiger]

Great game last night in a big venue. Very entertaining from a fan standpoint. Navasota used it's speed to push the ball downfield. The Rattlers also did a good job of contain on the Slot-T offense. The Bulls were never really out of the game just fell short on several drives. The timeout was a big factor as was the goaline stand. Reminded me of the RS-J attempt in Wimberly several seasons back where taped showed he was in the endzone, but the official from the far sideline raced in to signal he was short. Never like to be on the losing end of a game changing play. Navasota recievers dropped catchable balls all night. Bellville made some big time receptions that moved the ball. Good defense from both teams. Thinking that Navasota needs to work on catching the ball for the championship game. Can't drop that many and stay in a close game.

I have to admit I've never been a big fan of Coach Rowe. His antics on the sidelines rub me wrong. I guess it's because he gets away with being the 12th man on the field from the officials. How and why I can't figure out. With all that said I have throughly enjoyed watching what he has done for the Brahmas. The way his players respond to him. I love how the center attacks the ball prior to the snap. The O-line plays a sharp style. The defense swarms and makes mostly good decisions. From the impressive straight as an arrow team line-up to the clapping their kneepads in unision during the coin toss. Reminded me of the Tigers during their championship run. That "one team" mentality is special. You can't just talk about it. You live it and you breathe it 24/7. I know Sealy and Bellville have a storied history but I was impressed with what I saw on the field last night. I thought that Navasota joining Bellville post game was special. With a national tragedy affecting all of us, a special moment was what we needed. Another lesson learned by our student-athletes. I thought the exodus of the Bellville fans prior to the end of the game was wrong. Those that left early missed a special moment. I know the taste of defeat is bitter, but few teams can do it with class and last night Bellville showed how it's done.

[navscanmaster]

Yeah. Coach Rowe was pissed. After talking with the other coaches on the sideline, he called time timeout, but it was disallowed by the head official and linesman on our side. The ref in the back of the end zone blew the play dead. He was pissed that neither of the refs closest to the situation would allow the timeout to happen and the other guy did. Also, I wouldnt say that they gave up on the play. He had 2 defenders on his back on the way into the endzone. From the angles, it was too hard to determine when he broke the plain and when he didnt. They reshowed the replay of the 4th down stop a few times and I thought he scored then. Not sure about the 3rd down play.

For the block....it most definitely was a hit to the helmet. You could clearly hear the pop. Regardless of location, rules are put into place to rid the game of peel back/blind side blocks.

Thanks for the reply. I figured the timeout was legit, but that the announcers were being a little homeristic with the standing still comment. As for the block, I can see a flag coming from some officials, but most are not calling contact like that illegal. I don't like dirty hits, but some of the stuff they are flagging these days are pushing it a little. I guess if there is enough doubt in the minds of the players as to how far the line goes, the game will clean up and we won't see as many kids getting hurt. Mixed blessings, I know, because we all enjoy big hits and blocks.

[Bull's-eye]

What a great game! A great atmosphere. It was a hard fought battle and tremendous effort from both teams. Despite all of pressure and intensity, both teams played clean and showed respect. A big congrats to the Rattlers, you earned the win and the trip to JerryWorld. You have some great athletes and a very good team. You responded to and capitalized on situations like a champion should. The post game comments from Coach Fedora and sportsmanship displayed by your players was genuine and appreciated. A class act all the way around. It is tough to have our season come to an end, but it takes some of the sting away that it came at the hands of the 2012 Rattlers. Best of luck next Friday. Show the world how it is done Heart of Texas style and bring that state championship back to the Brazos Valley.

:2thumbsup

[whitelightning5]

Great game last night in a big venue. Very entertaining from a fan standpoint. Navasota used it's speed to push the ball downfield. The Rattlers also did a good job of contain on the Slot-T offense. The Bulls were never really out of the game just fell short on several drives. The timeout was a big factor as was the goaline stand. Reminded me of the RS-J attempt in Wimberly several seasons back where taped showed he was in the endzone, but the official from the far sideline raced in to signal he was short. Never like to be on the losing end of a game changing play. Navasota recievers dropped catchable balls all night. Bellville made some big time receptions that moved the ball. Good defense from both teams. Thinking that Navasota needs to work on catching the ball for the championship game. Can't drop that many and stay in a close game.

I have to admit I've never been a big fan of Coach Rowe. His antics on the sidelines rub me wrong. I guess it's because he gets away with being the 12th man on the field from the officials. How and why I can't figure out. With all that said I have throughly enjoyed watching what he has done for the Brahmas. The way his players respond to him. I love how the center attacks the ball prior to the snap. The O-line plays a sharp style. The defense swarms and makes mostly good decisions. From the impressive straight as an arrow team line-up to the clapping their kneepads in unision during the coin toss. Reminded me of the Tigers during their championship run. That "one team" mentality is special. You can't just talk about it. You live it and you breathe it 24/7. I know Sealy and Bellville have a storied history but I was impressed with what I saw on the field last night. I thought that Navasota joining Bellville post game was special. With a national tragedy affecting all of us, a special moment was what we needed. Another lesson learned by our student-athletes. I thought the exodus of the Bellville fans prior to the end of the game was wrong. Those that left early missed a special moment. I know the taste of defeat is bitter, but few teams can do it with class and last night Bellville showed how it's done.

So do you not agree that Coach Rowe had any reason to be yelling at the officials? In either the Sealy game or the Navasota game?

[lbjacj]

Reminded me of the RS-J attempt in WimberlEy several seasons back where taped showed he was in the endzone, but the official from the far sideline raced in to signal he was short.

That was a good call!
The ball never broke the plane! Every replay/photo I saw showed that! Show me the proof he was in!?;)

[sTxforlife]

That was a good call!
The ball never broke the plane! Every replay/photo I saw showed that! Show me the proof he was in!?;)
I'm glad we can joke about this now haha

[Bull's-eye]

Great sportsmanship displayed last night & high praise given to both teams. I'm a big fan of both coaches, you can definitely see the positive influences they have on their players. This loss is disappointing, but there is no shame losing to this outstanding Rattler team. Also, the kind words from the Rattler nation makes this loss a little easier to swallow. My good friends from Navasota had nothing but high praise for this Bellville team, commenting on their discipline & mistake-free style of play. Congrats to both teams, what a special year! I got 2 words for the Rattlers............WIN STATE!!!!!

[MJMbrahmas10]

I think because of the horrible parking. Many people decided to leave early cause they didnt want to sit there for an hour

[Manso/V8]

I think because of the horrible parking. Many people decided to leave early cause they didnt want to sit there for an hour

The fans I saw leave early had come in from out of town. We had some relatives come to the game that had a 3 hour drive to get home. They left late in the 4th quarter and it took them over an hour to get out of the parking lot.

[BrahmaMom]

So pleased with the tone of posters here...two excellent teams played, two teams with great traditions...two towns who are proud of their teams and support them....only one can win. The respect and dignity of all is what makes high school football fans proud. What a great end to the 2012 Brahma season and encouragement for the Rattlers for next week! Honored to have played what I hope are the 2012 champs! Go Rattlers!!!

[footballgal]

Congrats Navasota!
Just one more to go.

[Gone Fishing]

That was a good call!
The ball never broke the plane! Every replay/photo I saw showed that! Show me the proof he was in!?;)


I'm glad we can joke about this now haha

knee down before the ball crossed, every film showed it, what fans and your out of control coach saw was the ball crossing the plane, but not the knee down. Funny for sure, look at the film he was obviously not in.

[sTxforlife]

knee down before the ball crossed, every film showed it, what fans and your out of control coach saw was the ball crossing the plane, but not the knee down. Funny for sure, look at the film he was obviously not in.
We're not starting this again, neither side will ever agree, it's pointless, it's in the past quit bringing it up.

[OldBison75]

So pleased with the tone of posters here...two excellent teams played, two teams with great traditions...two towns who are proud of their teams and support them....only one can win. The respect and dignity of all is what makes high school football fans proud. What a great end to the 2012 Brahma season and encouragement for the Rattlers for next week! Honored to have played what I hope are the 2012 champs! Go Rattlers!!!

Sitting behind this computer during the week leading up to a game, it is easy to be brave and make big boasts and predictions. The fact of the matter is that the game is played on the field by kids. What is on paper, like stats and predictions, can't measure the heart and determination of a group of kids. We had two teams of fine young men that took the field Friday night with pride and determination filling the uniform they wore, both the boys in blue and those in the red and white. Every play was a battle. The final score is not a clear expression of how hard this game was played. We appreciate your support in the next game and we are honored to have played a team that gave it all every play and stretched us to the limit. It is also so refreshing to see the respect every player had for each other on the field and after the game. I saw pure class from both sides. Hold your head high and know that I would not be surprised to see Bellville challenging for the SC next year.

[1971Coogs]

Galveston County Daily News


Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:19 am By Jim Levesque

Well, Cougar fans, it looks like that the La Marque-Navasota game was really for the state title after all.
It’s really unfortunate the deciding high school football playoff matchup of the Division II-3A postseason had to be played in the third round instead of the championship game or even the state semifinal. Many — including myself and coaches I talked to — were sure the team that came out of that Rattlers-Cougars showdown would stomp its way through the bracket en route to the title.


It sure is looking that way.

Navasota has taken care of West Orange-Stark, 38-7, and Bellville, 24-7, with little trouble and now faces Gilmer in the state championship game at 4 p.m. Friday at Cowboys Stadium.

Gilmer’s no slouch, but nobody really is predicting the Buckeyes to win.

Sound familiar, Cougar fans?

Maybe Gilmer can make it a game against Navasota. One thing is for certain, there will be a lot of throwing, a lot of yards and a lot of points. Probably a lot more by the Rattlers.

But there’s little doubt that if La Marque would have beaten Navasota two weeks ago, the Cougars would be readying for a trip to Dallas instead.

La Marque might have played one of its worst games of the season and still gave the Rattlers their toughest test of the year.

The playoff bracket just didn’t pan out right for the Cougars. Region III had the toughest competition with Navasota, Coldspring, West Orange-Stark and La Marque all jumbled together. In any other region, those squads probably would have come out of the bracket. But it’s about geography in the playoffs, not seedings.

It’s also about enrollment.

Navasota fell into Division II because the Taylor Ducks — the only school in District 18-3A with a higher enrollment — made the playoffs despite a 4-6 record in the regular season. So, if Taylor just loss one more district game, it would probably be the Cougars playing in Dallas Friday.

Instead, Stephenville has another state title with its Division I-3A victory Friday, and Navasota is about to hoist a trophy, too.

[lbjacj]

We're not starting this again, neither side will ever agree, it's pointless, it's in the past quit bringing it up.

"Originally Posted by 957tiger:Reminded me of the RS-J attempt in WimberlEy several seasons back where taped showed he was in the endzone, but the official from the far sideline raced in to signal he was short."

He started it!

[OLE'BULL]

Galveston County Daily News


Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:19 am By Jim Levesque

Well, Cougar fans, it looks like that the La Marque-Navasota game was really for the state title after all.
It’s really unfortunate the deciding high school football playoff matchup of the Division II-3A postseason had to be played in the third round instead of the championship game or even the state semifinal. Many — including myself and coaches I talked to — were sure the team that came out of that Rattlers-Cougars showdown would stomp its way through the bracket en route to the title.


It sure is looking that way.

Navasota has taken care of West Orange-Stark, 38-7, and Bellville, 24-7, with little trouble and now faces Gilmer in the state championship game at 4 p.m. Friday at Cowboys Stadium.

Gilmer’s no slouch, but nobody really is predicting the Buckeyes to win.

Sound familiar, Cougar fans?

Maybe Gilmer can make it a game against Navasota. One thing is for certain, there will be a lot of throwing, a lot of yards and a lot of points. Probably a lot more by the Rattlers.

But there’s little doubt that if La Marque would have beaten Navasota two weeks ago, the Cougars would be readying for a trip to Dallas instead.

La Marque might have played one of its worst games of the season and still gave the Rattlers their toughest test of the year.

The playoff bracket just didn’t pan out right for the Cougars. Region III had the toughest competition with Navasota, Coldspring, West Orange-Stark and La Marque all jumbled together. In any other region, those squads probably would have come out of the bracket. But it’s about geography in the playoffs, not seedings.

It’s also about enrollment.

Navasota fell into Division II because the Taylor Ducks — the only school in District 18-3A with a higher enrollment — made the playoffs despite a 4-6 record in the regular season. So, if Taylor just loss one more district game, it would probably be the Cougars playing in Dallas Friday.

Instead, Stephenville has another state title with its Division I-3A victory Friday, and Navasota is about to hoist a trophy, too.

This writer sounds like an idiot. Enrollment? Really? And the whole Region IV thing? The division one state championship included a team from region IV, so did the division two state semi final game. Oh, and by the way, Wimberley was in region 4, they only won a state championship last year. Maybe coldspring, west orange stark, and co. werent that GD good. Bellville didn't have a cake walk to the semi finals. Cuero and Wimberley are both damn fine football teams. La Marque got beat by the better team AND the better coaching staff, the end.

[The Bull #40]

I thought it was a pretty well played game Friday night. Congrats to both teams: Navasota on the win, and the Bulls on a good season. I didn't think the Navasota teams was "on a whole 'nother level" like some made them seem. Defnitely not near the best team I've ever seen in HS football. They were good but definitely beatable. #2 for the Ratttlers is the real deal, I think he'll be a very versatile weapon for some college team. Some of the other players I thought were over-hyped. One thing I didn' like about the Bulls friday was the offensive play calling-- I don't think we've run to the outside less all season. I just didn't understand it, they were obviously shutting down our inside running game and they still refused to run the sweep and pitch more even when it was mostly successful. I thought the game was closer than the score reflected. But its over now as is our season and good luck to the Rattlers in the SC.

[Scoop27]

On Channel 2 High School Football show out of Houston this morning-It had highlight videos and interviews.
They showed the Navasota-Bellville game. Did Bellville call time out before that TD was scored?

[Red Bull]

First of all congrats to Navasota. Good luck this week at state game.

Congrats to the Brahmas as well on a great season.

My thoughts on this game are mainly ones of misses chances by Bellville. First was the chance to kick the kickoff out of the endzone. I know that is asking a lot of your kicker but Bellville's kicker has done it all year. Wind or no wind. That was the Rattlers first KO return of the year. What timing! The next chance was the score wiped out by what will be known as "The Timeout". Bellville asst. coach did call timeout but how unlucky it was that one of the back refs saw it. Then to hold Bellville out of endzone and chance to cut deficit to 3 pts. The last missed chance was on short FG. All these missed chances gave Navasota save lead they did hold on to in the end. Definatly the game could have been much closer and perhaps a classic finish had the few plays were different. But they were not.

Once again congrats to Navasota.

[Roughneck93]

From chron.com...

Boys athlete of the week: Austin Collins, Navasota...

http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/article/Boys-athlete-of-the-week-Austin-Collins-Navasota-4122541.php (http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/article/Boys-athlete-of-the-week-Austin-Collins-Navasota-4122541.php)

[HEMOTOXIC]

I have to agree. Bellville gave us all they we wanted and then some. For those who weren't in attendance, the score doesn't tell the entire story. I will agree that there were missed opportunities for Bellville, but, there were missed opportunites for the Rattlers as well.

With that said, congrats again to Bellville for a great season and a hard fought game.