Check your cleats

[Emerson1]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/oregon-lb-suspended-football-playoff-loss-because-length-162329627.html

[toddg]

wonder what provoked the game officials to check his cleats in the first place...

[SHSBulldog00]

That is a rule I have never heard before.

[GrTigers6]

That is a rule I have never heard before.

They can not be any longer than 1/2 inch.
Illegal Equipment
ARTICLE 7. Illegal equipment includes the following (See Appendix E for
additional details):
a. Equipment worn by a player that could endanger other players.
b. Tape or any bandage other than that used to protect an injury, subject to the
approval of the umpire.
c. Hard, abrasive or unyielding equipment that is not completely covered and
padded, subject to the approval of the umpire.
d. Cleats that extend more than ½ inch from the base of the shoe (See Appendix
E for full specifications).
e. Any equipment that could confuse or deceive an opponent.
f. Any equipment that could provide an unfair advantage to any player.
g. Adhesive material, paint, grease or any other slippery substance applied
to equipment or a player’s person, clothing or attachment [Exception: Eye
shade. (Rule 1-4-6-e)].
h. Uniform attachments other than towels (Rule 1-4-6-a).
i. Rib pads, shoulder pad attachments and back protectors that are not totally
covered.
j. Visible bandannas worn on the field outside the team area (A.R. 1-4-7-I and
II).
Rule 1 / The Game, Field, Players and Equipment FR-25
Mandatory and Illegal Equipment Enforcement
ARTICLE 8. a. No player wearing illegal equipment shall be permitted to play.
b. If an official discovers illegal equipment, the team shall be charged a team
timeout. If equipment becomes illegal through play, the player may not
participate until corrections are made. There will not be a charged team
timeout.
c. Each of the first three infractions in a half carries a charged team timeout,
if timeouts are available. Any infraction after a team has exhausted its
timeouts is a foul for delay of game and carries a five-yard penalty.
Player is disqualified.

[NastySlot]

They can not be any longer than 1/2 inch.
Illegal Equipment
ARTICLE 7. Illegal equipment includes the following (See Appendix E for
additional details):
a. Equipment worn by a player that could endanger other players.
b. Tape or any bandage other than that used to protect an injury, subject to the
approval of the umpire.
c. Hard, abrasive or unyielding equipment that is not completely covered and
padded, subject to the approval of the umpire.
d. Cleats that extend more than ½ inch from the base of the shoe (See Appendix
E for full specifications).
e. Any equipment that could confuse or deceive an opponent.
f. Any equipment that could provide an unfair advantage to any player.
g. Adhesive material, paint, grease or any other slippery substance applied
to equipment or a player’s person, clothing or attachment [Exception: Eye
shade. (Rule 1-4-6-e)].
h. Uniform attachments other than towels (Rule 1-4-6-a).
i. Rib pads, shoulder pad attachments and back protectors that are not totally
covered.
j. Visible bandannas worn on the field outside the team area (A.R. 1-4-7-I and
II).
Rule 1 / The Game, Field, Players and Equipment FR-25
Mandatory and Illegal Equipment Enforcement
ARTICLE 8. a. No player wearing illegal equipment shall be permitted to play.
b. If an official discovers illegal equipment, the team shall be charged a team
timeout. If equipment becomes illegal through play, the player may not
participate until corrections are made. There will not be a charged team
timeout.
c. Each of the first three infractions in a half carries a charged team timeout,
if timeouts are available. Any infraction after a team has exhausted its
timeouts is a foul for delay of game and carries a five-yard penalty.
Player is disqualified.
Are you an official...... If so I have a question maybe you could answer sometime. It probably has a simple answer I just don t think I have ever seen this formation which got me wondering if we're legal.

[GrTigers6]

Are you an official...... If so I have a question maybe you could answer sometime. It probably has a simple answer I just don t think I have ever seen this formation which got me wondering if we're legal.
Yes I am

[SHSBulldog00]

They can not be any longer than 1/2 inch.
Illegal Equipment
ARTICLE 7. Illegal equipment includes the following (See Appendix E for
additional details):
a. Equipment worn by a player that could endanger other players.
b. Tape or any bandage other than that used to protect an injury, subject to the
approval of the umpire.
c. Hard, abrasive or unyielding equipment that is not completely covered and
padded, subject to the approval of the umpire.
d. Cleats that extend more than ½ inch from the base of the shoe (See Appendix
E for full specifications).
e. Any equipment that could confuse or deceive an opponent.
f. Any equipment that could provide an unfair advantage to any player.
g. Adhesive material, paint, grease or any other slippery substance applied
to equipment or a player’s person, clothing or attachment [Exception: Eye
shade. (Rule 1-4-6-e)].
h. Uniform attachments other than towels (Rule 1-4-6-a).
i. Rib pads, shoulder pad attachments and back protectors that are not totally
covered.
j. Visible bandannas worn on the field outside the team area (A.R. 1-4-7-I and
II).
Rule 1 / The Game, Field, Players and Equipment FR-25
Mandatory and Illegal Equipment Enforcement
ARTICLE 8. a. No player wearing illegal equipment shall be permitted to play.
b. If an official discovers illegal equipment, the team shall be charged a team
timeout. If equipment becomes illegal through play, the player may not
participate until corrections are made. There will not be a charged team
timeout.
c. Each of the first three infractions in a half carries a charged team timeout,
if timeouts are available. Any infraction after a team has exhausted its
timeouts is a foul for delay of game and carries a five-yard penalty.
Player is disqualified.

Thank you for the information on the rule.

[NastySlot]

Yes I am
I could draw the formation up but this might get us the answer saw a formation six down linemen with split right (on) two wideouts off (single left other with slot right so twins right) a Q and back. That is all legal. Ok only change 68- left tackle opposite twins is uncovered but TE (88) is lined up at left tackle covered up. Ok now 68 motions all way out right lines up on covering up SE right- no longer eligible- no problem. Question is can you cover up the TE with a down lineman than motion that lineman making the TE eligible. I hadn't seen this before if legal I like it s deception

[GrTigers6]

I could draw the formation up but this might get us the answer saw a formation six down linemen with split right (on) two wideouts off (single left other with slot right so twins right) a Q and back. That is all legal. Ok only change 68- left tackle opposite twins is uncovered but TE (88) is lined up at left tackle covered up. Ok now 68 motions all way out right lines up on covering up SE right- no longer eligible- no problem. Question is can you cover up the TE with a down lineman than motion that lineman making the TE eligible. I hadn't seen this before if legal I like it s deceptionIf I am understanding this formation correctly, then Yes that is legal but only if the lineman stepped back and made himself a back and paused for one second. then he can go into motion. Also this all depends on if the lineman did not have his hands below his knees and the center did not have his hand on the ball. I will look for that reference and post it when I find it

[gatordaze]

I have one for you... Can an offensive lineman receive a pass that is thrown backward (lateral). ie. a screen pass to a line man if it is thrown behind the QB?

[NastySlot]

I have one for you... Can an offensive lineman receive a pass that is thrown backward (lateral). ie. a screen pass to a line man if it is thrown behind the QB?

I think anyone can catch a backward pass

[NastySlot]

If I am understanding this formation correctly, then Yes that is legal but only if the lineman stepped back and made himself a back and paused for one second. then he can go into motion. Also this all depends on if the lineman did not have his hands below his knees and the center did not have his hand on the ball. I will look for that reference and post it when I find it
No pause and all hands above knees..... Center did have his Hands on ball.

[GrTigers6]

No pause and all hands above knees..... Center did have his Hands on ball.The TE I believe would still be ineligible because if he is covered up with hand on the ground or below his knees then he is restricted and cannot change positions. Therefore he is an ineligible reciever. Maybe a more experienced official could explain it better. lol Or maybe I am missing something!

[NastySlot]

The TE I believe would still be ineligible because if he is covered up with hand on the ground or below his knees then he is restricted and cannot change positions. Therefore he is an ineligible reciever. Maybe a more experienced official could explain it better. lol Or maybe I am missing something!

Thanks.....but when you said he would have to pause and declare himself a back that makes a lot of sense. It was run in a game and I would think it was told to the officials in pregame when asked about trick plays or odd formations they should be aware of. Think however the no pause wasn't noticed.

[GrTigers6]

I finally got the reference to come up.
Offensive Team Requirements—At the Snap
ARTICLE 4. Each of the following (a-c) is a live-ball foul and the play is
allowed to continue.
a. Formation. At the snap Team A must be in a formation that meets these
requirements:
1. All players must be inbounds.
2. All players must be either linemen or backs (Rule 2-27-4).
3. At least five linemen must wear jerseys numbered 50 through 79
(Exception: When the snap is from a scrimmage kick formation, par. 5
below.)
4. No more than four players may be backs.
5. In a scrimmage kick formation at the snap (Rule 2-16-10) Team A may
have fewer than five linemen numbered 50-79, subject to the following
conditions:
FR-72 RULE 7 / SNAPPING AND PASSING THE BALL
(a) Any and all linemen not numbered 50-79 who are ineligible
receiver(s) by position become exceptions to the numbering rule
when the snapper is established.
(b) Any and all such numbering-exception players must be on the line
and may not be on the end of the line. Otherwise, Team A commits a
foul for an illegal formation.
(c) Any and all such players are exceptions to the numbering rule
throughout the down and remain ineligible receivers unless they
become eligible under Rule 7-3-5 (forward pass touched by an
official or a Team B player).
The conditions in 5(a) – 5(c) are no longer in effect if prior to the
snap a period ends or there is a timeout charged to the referee or one
of the teams.
b. Man in Motion.
1. One back may be in motion, but he may not be moving toward his
opponent’s goal line.
2. The player who goes in motion may not start from the line of scrimmage
unless he first becomes a back and comes to a complete stop.
3. A player in motion at the snap must have satisfied the one-second
rule—i.e., he may not start his motion before any shift has ended (Rule
2-22-1-c).
c. Illegal Shift. At the snap, Team A may not execute an illegal shift (Rule 7-1-
2-a). (A.R. 7-1-3-I-III).
PENALTY [a-c]—Live-ball foul: Five yards from the previous spot [S19 or
S20]. For live-ball fouls occurring when or after the snap starts
during scrimmage kick plays other than field goal plays: Five
yards from the previous spot or five yards from the spot where
the subsequent dead ball belongs to Team B (S18, S19, or S20).

One thing I failed to mention is if the lineman is wearing a number from 50-79, he is uneligible no matter where he lines up.

[Old Tiger]

5/8 inch cleats are best in bad conditions such as rain and snow.

[YTBulldogs]

Yes, all are legal to catch a backward pass, and linemen can go down field prior to a backward pass as well.

[gatordaze]

Yes, all are legal to catch a backward pass, and linemen can go down field prior to a backward pass as well.
If that is the case, I am surprised that someone has used an athletic tackle as a safety valve. After he releases the DE, nobody would cover him and he could easily drop deeper than the QB. Keep a back in to pick up the DE and run your patterns the opposite way and he should be wide open.

[YTBulldogs]

If that is the case, I am surprised that someone has used an athletic tackle as a safety valve. After he releases the DE, nobody would cover him and he could easily drop deeper than the QB. Keep a back in to pick up the DE and run your patterns the opposite way and he should be wide open.

I've seen that ran in games I've had. And yes, you think more of these type plays would be ran. Remember though, it's a lineman trying to run with it, and weird things can happen when a "hog" runs with it. IE: fumble, or drop the pass in which case, it's considered a fumble.