Dave Campbell Magazine

[Los Owls]

When does this magazine come out....:1popcorn:

[Bosqueville]

When does this magazine come out....:1popcorn:

Waco gets it first. Supposed to be here on June 21st. It begins to show up eslewhere within a few days of that.

[Ville-D]

http://www.texasfootball.com/2012/

Pre-order it and you might get it a little early... But they charge $5.00 for shipping. :vrycnfsd:

[Los Owls]

Owls should be ranked higher then Wimberley...Don't let the wImBo wAcKoS see this..lol:evillol:

[Gone Fishing]

Owls should be ranked higher then Wimberley...Don't let the wImBo wAcKoS see this..lol:evillol:

I saw it!! Why though?

[Gone Fishing]

Wish it was today!!!!

[Rabid Cougar]

Waco gets it first. Supposed to be here on June 21st. It begins to show up eslewhere within a few days of that.

Sports Hall of Fame !!!!!!;)

[Gone Fishing]

Owls should be ranked higher then Wimberley...Don't let the wImBo wAcKoS see this..lol:evillol:

Why should Hondo be rated higher than Wimberley Los Owls? You got some insight?

[Tejastrue]

Owls should be ranked higher then Wimberley...Don't let the wImBo wAcKoS see this..lol:evillol:


Why should Hondo be rated higher than Wimberley Los Owls? You got some insight?

As always..Lost Owls is full of Owl poop..:D

[Manso/V8]

As always..Lost Owls is full of Owl poop..:D

Owls are generally associated with wisdom, this one seems to be a wisea**!

[Los Owls]

As always..Lost Owls is full of Owl poop..:D
Don't you just luv those, wImBo wAcKoS ...They get so wacko very easy...lol..They are hilarious...:crazy1:

[Los Owls]

Owls are generally associated with wisdom, this one seems to be a wisea**!
Sorry,must of hit a nerve...You must be related to the wImBo wAcKoS...Your are so MEAN...LOL...Go Owls...

[Manso/V8]

Sorry,must of hit a nerve...You must be related to the wImBo wAcKoS...Your are so MEAN...LOL...Go Owls...

No, you didn't hit a nerve, I am not related, and I am not mean, I am just smart aleck. Tell us about the Owls this year.

[Los Owls]

No, you didn't hit a nerve, I am not related, and I am not mean, I am just smart aleck. Tell us about the Owls this year.
Cool,i like that attitude,makes it fun...Can't tell u anything about the Owls except their colors,NAVY and White...It's a secret...Don't want any info out..The wimbo wackos are watching this site..:1offtopc:..LOL...

[Tejastrue]

Don't you just luv those, wImBo wAcKoS ...They get so wacko very easy...lol..They are hilarious...:crazy1:

Get your AD situation straightened out..then maybe in a few years you guys can come play with the big boys again.

[Gone Fishing]

Get your AD situation straightened out..then maybe in a few years you guys can come play with the big boys again.

Yes +1

[Los Owls]

Get your AD situation straightened out..then maybe in a few years you guys can come play with the big boys again.
How do you come up with that response so quickly...Wow,really amazed...Gotta luv those WiMbO wAcKoS...Go Owls...:crazy1:

[ogg]

How do you come up with that response so quickly...Wow,really amazed...Gotta luv those WiMbO wAcKoS...Go Owls...:crazy1:

You know you love us dude.

[Los Owls]

The WiMbO wAcKoS are all cool...Finally,yall are starting to comeout...;)

[bulldog82]

Get your AD situation straightened out..then maybe in a few years you guys can come play with the big boys again.

Big boys= Big mouths

[greendawg84]

Big boys= Big mouths

Also equal State Championship Ring's ! How many them Owls have ?

[Tejastrue]

Big boys= Big mouths

Go on back to your cellar bulldog..lol..

[Gone Fishing]

Also equal State Championship Ring's ! How many them Owls have ?

Amen brother... I like you green dawg.

[YTBulldogs]

GF, check your private messages.

[Los Owls]

Also equal State Championship Ring's ! How many them Owls have ?

We still are working on getting a ring with our Hondo (home grown) kids..Don't have to depend on transfers every year to get one...Still trying though...Go Owls...;)

[ogg]

We still are working on getting a ring with our Hondo (home grown) kids..Don't have to depend on transfers every year to get one...Still trying though...Go Owls...;)

Yeah, probably cause no one wants to move there.

[Tejastrue]

We still are working on getting a ring with our Hondo (home grown) kids..Don't have to depend on transfers every year to get one...Still trying though...Go Owls...;)

Maybe you should. Might even consider spiking that fertilizer a bit for those home grown kids.. :spitlol:I've read somewhere that ya'll are expected to do well this season. Just trying to help..:D

[Gone Fishing]

We still are working on getting a ring with our Hondo (home grown) kids..Don't have to depend on transfers every year to get one...Still trying though...Go Owls...;)

Los t Owls that is so stupid. Our one move in, in 2 years ago did not win the state championship for us!! He did help and was pretty good (we had others that could do the same), but after the Taylor game that should have been 17 points except for an injury to a starting corner, it was 14, 0, 13 , 14, 14 points allowed!!!! Our D won the games for the most part and they are all "home grown"! at least since jr hi or earlier. ..Owl poop hole...

[Los Owls]

Los t Owls that is so stupid. Our one move in, in 2 years ago did not win the state championship for us!! He did help and was pretty good (we had others that could do the same), but after the Taylor game that should have been 17 points except for an injury to a starting corner, it was 14, 0, 13 , 14, 14 points allowed!!!! Our D won the games for the most part and they are all "home grown"! at least since jr hi or earlier. ..Owl poop hole...

Sure,Yea Right...your so hilarious wImBo WaCkO.:taunt:

[bulldog82]

hope you can back that talk. We've got a ring too. and i belive hondo knock you out of a back to back attempt

[bulldog82]

Go on back to your cellar bulldog..lol..

thing about a cellar you don't stay there for long , see yall for a preview in a couple of weeks!

[Gone Fishing]

Sure,Yea Right...your so hilarious wImBo WaCkO.:taunt:

So your saying WT is just full of move ins? I could show you the roster and you would have to stand corrected. We do have some every so often just like other small towns that are within an hour of big cities like Austin or San Antonio, when you consistently win people want to move there. .....Aren't ya'll about an hour away from a big city too? ....just saying. lol

[Gone Fishing]

hope you can back that talk. We've got a ring too. and i belive hondo knock you out of a back to back attempt

Ive mentioned that before Bulldog, that yall have a ring and it wasn't that long ago BH was a power in a lot of sports, and I was at the game that Hondo knocked us out of a repeat chance, they were really good. We had our excuses for that game, but thats all they would be, is excuses.

[Los Owls]

when you consistently win people want to move there. .....

I rest my case..Its called,TRANSFERS....;)Hey,we will continue going after the big prize with our Home Grown Kids,regardless....Go Owls....Luv Friday Night Football.

[Gone Fishing]

I rest my case..Its called,TRANSFERS....;)Hey,we will continue going after the big prize with our Home Grown Kids,regardless....Go Owls....Luv Friday Night Football.

Well Lost Owl, we will just have to agree to disagree. Your basing your statements on one move in two years ago. Most of our players are "home grown" as you say.

[Los Owls]

Well Lost Owl, we will just have to agree to disagree. Your basing your statements on one move in two years ago. Most of our players are "home grown" as you say.

Well wImBo WaCkO, like the saying in the movie says"You can't handle the Truth"LOL....:tisk:Relax,don't get peranoid..Yall are still the Champions...

[Gone Fishing]

Well wImBo WaCkO, like the saying in the movie says"You can't handle the Truth"LOL....:tisk:Relax,don't get peranoid..Yall are still the Champions...

Oh Im not peranoid at all, your just wrong on the subject Lost Owl.

[FB-fanatic]

Well wImBo WaCkO, like the saying in the movie says"You can't handle the Truth"LOL....:tisk:Relax,don't get peranoid..Yall are still the Champions...

They got the ring, they earned the right be proud. You earn the ring, you get this smack, but until then, your just blowin in the wind.

[Gone Fishing]

Im confused, what smack?

[bulldog82]

Ive mentioned that before Bulldog, that yall have a ring and it wasn't that long ago BH was a power in a lot of sports, and I was at the game that Hondo knocked us out of a repeat chance, they were really good. We had our excuses for that game, but thats all they would be, is excuses.

Not really an excuse, but when Buse got knocked out of game thats when the momentum changed. Werner was the real deal after that, but LH put an end to that after he returned the opening kick off.

[bulldog82]

Im confused, what smack?

Me too! Is it that WT is ranked over Hondo, or the whole home grown - transfer thingie? We would love some transfers, only people moving here are old people retiring from houston with no kids or redneck cowboys. We had the kid from New Mexico move in, will be a Sr, won state last year in NM, now doesn't want to play. Suppose to be on verg of going pro in roping. Guess i cant blame the kid probly be making more money than me just throwing a rope. I don't think he realized how serious Texas football is compared to NM!

[Tejastrue]

Me too! Is it that WT is ranked over Hondo, or the whole home grown - transfer thingie? We would love some transfers, only people moving here are old people retiring from houston with no kids or redneck cowboys. We had the kid from New Mexico move in, will be a Sr, won state last year in NM, now doesn't want to play. Suppose to be on verg of going pro in roping. Guess i cant blame the kid probly be making more money than me just throwing a rope. I don't think he realized how serious Texas football is compared to NM!


Maybe it was my "big boys" comment bulldog..which you sort of responded to (even though it was not directed toward you)..lol

[bulldog82]

Maybe it was my "big boys" comment bulldog..which you sort of responded to (even though it was not directed toward you)..lol

Just ruffling your feathers, all in good fun!

[Tejastrue]

Just ruffling your feathers, all in good fun!

Yes..a few feathers were ruffled but takin as good fun..I hope you guys find that winning tradition again and soon..it's simply good for 3A football and rivalries!

[Los Owls]

Yes..a few feathers were ruffled but takin as good fun..I hope you guys find that winning tradition again and soon..it's simply good for 3A football and rivalries!
Aww,wImBo WaCkO,You do have a Heart........You guys are still the champions..Like you said,It's simply good for 3A football and rivalries....It's getting closer..Go Owls...;)

[Gone Fishing]

Not really an excuse, but when Buse got knocked out of game thats when the momentum changed. Werner was the real deal after that, but LH put an end to that after he returned the opening kick off.

Great memory BD. Buse did get knocked out and our other starting inside LB stayed home tto sick to even try to play. Both LB were back up s and could not handle the run. LH did take care of that.

[Roughneck93]

Anybody else watching Under the Lights on Fox Sports? Dave Campbell's Magazine Cover Series....

They listed their 3A Top 10...

1. Stephenville
2. La Marque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberley
8. Henderson
9. La Vega
10. Celina

[Roughneck93]

2012 DCTF coverboy...

http://www.texasfootball.com/assets/Greg-Tepper/Covers/_resampled/resizedimage479600-2012cover.JPG

[buckeyebob]

Anybody else watching Under the Lights on Fox Sports? Dave Campbell's Magazine Cover Series....

They listed their 3A Top 10...

1. Stephenville
2. La Marque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberley
8. Henderson
9. La Vega
10. Celina

How many of those are recent former 4A's?

[HEMOTOXIC]

How many of those are recent former 4A's?

Stephenville
La Marque
Carthage
Navasota
Henderson

[HEMOTOXIC]

Anybody else watching Under the Lights on Fox Sports? Dave Campbell's Magazine Cover Series....

They listed their 3A Top 10...

1. Stephenville
2. La Marque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberley
8. Henderson
9. La Vega
10. Celina

Coldspring plays @ La Marque then @ Navasota in back to back weeks.

[Lion70]

Coldspring plays @ La Marque then @ Navasota in back to back weeks.

OUch

[Lion70]

Anybody else watching Under the Lights on Fox Sports? Dave Campbell's Magazine Cover Series....

They listed their 3A Top 10...

1. Stephenville
2. La Marque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberley
8. Henderson
9. La Vega
10. Celina

Kinda suprised we are ranked ( Henderson) we will be good but may miss out on the postseason. I hope I am wrong lol.

[regaleagle]

IMO, I think Argyle is rated waaaaay too high at #6. I can't speak for Wimberley or Henderson or Coldspring, but the early forecasts tell me there are many teams across the 3A landscape this year with returning key players that would be a tough out for Argyle to beat if we had them on our schedule. Just being honest here in my assessment. I do think as the season progresses Argyle will gel and become increasingly tough to beat. Perhaps by the end of non-district games, the Eagles may start showing its strengths as a very cohesive unit. But to start the season this highly ranked is expecting too much from what we have scheduled early on.

[Tejastrue]

Coldspring at #4 and La Vega #9...maybe if you transpose the two. Very surprised Wimberley is listed.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Coldspring at #4 and La Vega #9...maybe if you transpose the two. Very surprised Wimberley is listed.

I was thinking that Coldspring was ranked a little high too.

[Gone Fishing]

Coldspring at #4 and La Vega #9...maybe if you transpose the two. Very surprised Wimberley is listed.

Not me Tejas... but you know I would say that. Lol.. If you remember a long time back, I said I thought Wimberley should start out about 7 to 12 in the first rankings. Dave must have done the same home work I did.

[Roughneck93]

Here's how they have 4A/5A ranked...

4A
1. Denton Guyer
2. Cedar Park
3. John Tyler
4. Highland Park
5. Pearland Dawson
6. Leander
7. Wichita Falls Rider
8. Aledo
9. Calallen
10. Angleton

5A
1. Dallas Skyline
2. Lake Travis
3. Southlake Carroll
4. Katy
5. Euless Trinity
6. Allen
7. Cibolo Steele
8. DeSoto
9. Longview
10. Arlington Martin

Also, the replay of the show will air at 6:30 p.m. tonight on Fox Sports.

[Ville]

Stephenville
La Marque
Carthage
Navasota
Henderson

How many of theese are likely to be D1 in playoffs? I know Stephenville will be curious of the others.

[ogg]

IMO, I think Argyle is rated waaaaay too high at #6. I can't speak for Wimberley or Henderson or Coldspring, but the early forecasts tell me there are many teams across the 3A landscape this year with returning key players that would be a tough out for Argyle to beat if we had them on our schedule. Just being honest here in my assessment. I do think as the season progresses Argyle will gel and become increasingly tough to beat. Perhaps by the end of non-district games, the Eagles may start showing its strengths as a very cohesive unit. But to start the season this highly ranked is expecting too much from what we have scheduled early on.

Feel the same way about Wimberley, the Texans 09 team gel took them deep into the playoffs.

[Tejastrue]

Feel the same way about Wimberley, the Texans 09 team gel took them deep into the playoffs.

I was surprised to see us listed in the top 10 but did you not also project us to lose to Argyle last year?? :D

[Manso/V8]

I was thinking that Coldspring was ranked a little high too.

I agree, but at least Navasota cracked the top 5.

[ogg]

I was surprised to see us listed in the top 10 but did you not also project us to lose to Argyle last year?? :D

I had Wimberley in my bracket to win it all.

[Tejastrue]

I had Wimberley in my bracket to win it all.

My apologies ogg..it was rb585. So glad he was wrong...;)

http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?116490-DII-State-Championship-game-Argyle-Eagles-(14-1)-vs.-Wimberley-Texans-(15-0)/page19&highlight=Wimberley+Argyle

[FB-fanatic]

Texas Sports Hall of Fame has received the 2012 edition! Headed over there now. Dave Cambell signs copies tomorrow!

[Eagle 1]

Texas Sports Hall of Fame has received the 2012 edition! Headed over there now. Dave Cambell signs copies tomorrow!

Can you post the top teams ranked in 2A and 1A, both divisions?

[FB-fanatic]

So I didn't have to leave work, my thoughtful 16 yr old son drove across town for me, picked up a copy of Texas Football..... then proceeded to a friends party for all night swimming and hanging out! Leaving me here to watch the Rangers all night and yearn for lost magazine. He has promised to text me a picture of the 3A and 2A top 25, but "the weather" I guess is wreaking havoc on the transmission, or maybe a couple of the 16 year old females at the party. I have texted my son's phone, his friends phone, and even the parent of the party's phone.. Ahhhhh...

I guess I'll see it tomorrow when everyone else gets theirs...

I feel like when I preordered an Iphone and they got placed on backorder, while others walked right in and got one at the store on day 1.

[FB-fanatic]

3A Top 25
1. S'ville
2. LaMarque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberly
8. henderson
9. Waco la Vega
10 Celina
11. Tyler Chapel Hill
12. Gilmer
13. Alvarado
14. Kilgore
15. Melissa
16. El Campo
17. Monahans
18. Abilene Wylie
19. Sealy
20. Liberty Hill
21. West Columbia
22. Lubbock Estacado
23. West Orange-Stark
24. Bellville
25. Houston Yates

[FB-fanatic]

2A Division I Top 10s

1. Cameron Yoe
2. Newton
3. Tatum
4. Daingerfield
5. Wall
6. Hempstead
7. Muleshoe
8. Crockett
9. Littlefield
10. Idalou

Division II

1. Refugio
2. Lexington
3. Cisco
4. Arp
5. Corsicana Mildred
6. East Bernard
7. Garrison
8. Rogers
9. Hughes Springs
10. Clarksville

[oldtownag]

How many of those are recent former 4A's?


Stephenville
La Marque
Carthage
Navasota
Henderson

Dude, Carthage has been 3A since 2002.

Plus we were 3A from 1956 thur 1979.

[Gone Fishing]

Dude, Carthage has been 3A since 2002.

Plus we were 3A from 1956 thur 1979.

Dude, 3A in 1956 thru 1979 statement is a joke. Who cares what anybody was before the alignments every two years anyway and NOBODY cares what you were in 1956! Thats funny!!!!

[Saggy Aggie]

3A Top 25
1. S'ville
2. LaMarque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberly
8. henderson
9. Waco la Vega
10 Celina
11. Tyler Chapel Hill
12. Gilmer
13. Alvarado
14. Kilgore
15. Melissa
16. El Campo
17. Monahans
18. Abilene Wylie
19. Sealy
20. Liberty Hill
21. West Columbia
22. Lubbock Estacado
23. West Orange-Stark
24. Bellville
25. Houston Yates what does Melissa have?!?!?

[FB-fanatic]

what does Melissa have?!?!?

I was thinking the same thing. They had a pretty studly QB last year, but graduated (I think). But, they grow by about 10 students a day, it seems like.

[bigwood33]

what does Melissa have?!?!?
An overrated preseason position....lost a TON!

[Roughneck93]

I figured Kennedale would have been a Top 25 team.

[Manso/V8]

Dude, 3A in 1956 thru 1979 statement is a joke. Who cares what anybody was before the alignments every two years anyway and NOBODY cares what you were in 1956! Thats funny!!!!

I wonder what classification they were from 1947-1955, back before those pesky face masks and plastic helmets.

[Manso/V8]

I hadn't heard much about Houston Yates in football. Is that a surprise?

[Lion70]

I wonder what classification they were from 1947-1955, back before those pesky face masks and plastic helmets.

Carthage Started play in 1924
No class to 1928

1928-1938 Class B

1939 to 1950 = 1A
1950 to 1955 =2A
1956 to 1979 =3a
1979 to 2002 =4A

[Saggy Aggie]

I figured Kennedale would have been a Top 25 team. yeah I feel like that's the one glaring omission.

Think Coldspring is too high. Roughnecks and brahmas too low. What the crap has Melissa done to warrant a #15 ranking?

Wos too low. Yates cracks the top 25...

[CTS]

I agree. I didn't expect Coldspring to be that high. With Texas City and Coldspring in their first 3 games LM could be 1-2 and still have a great team.

[oldtownag]

Dude, 3A in 1956 thru 1979 statement is a joke. Who cares what anybody was before the alignments every two years anyway and NOBODY cares what you were in 1956! Thats funny!!!!

Mission accomplished.

P.S. I agree its hard to remember much before 2008!

[mick5302]

I figured Kennedale would have been a Top 25 team.That's why I never put much stock into this magazine. Always seems like very little research goes into it, rankings are based on the previous year. Basically a phone in job. FNF is so much better.

[bigwood33]

DCTF used to use Carl Padilla's rankings but I think I heard last year that they may be using something else for the Pre- Season Polls. As for the district predictions, the HC from each team predicts their own district, first to last, and the magazine reflects the average. The data is absolutely as good as the coaches provide.

[Roughneck93]

DCTF D24 predicted order of finish....

1. La Marque
2. Columbia
3. Sweeny
4. Stafford
5. Sunnyside

[SHSBulldog00]

DCTF D24 predicted order of finish....

1. La Marque
2. Columbia
3. Sweeny
4. Stafford
5. Sunnyside

Our district isn't hard to predict. Of Sweeny's 9 games 4 are in the Top 25

[Manso/V8]

DCTF D24 predicted order of finish....

1. La Marque
2. Columbia
3. Sweeny
4. Stafford
5. Sunnyside

Spot on.

[Manso/V8]

3A Top 25
1. S'ville
2. LaMarque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberly
8. henderson
9. Waco la Vega
10 Celina
11. Tyler Chapel Hill
12. Gilmer
13. Alvarado
14. Kilgore
15. Melissa
16. El Campo
17. Monahans
18. Abilene Wylie
19. Sealy
20. Liberty Hill
21. West Columbia
22. Lubbock Estacado
23. West Orange-Stark
24. Bellville
25. Houston Yates

It seems like a lot more teams in this list would likely be D2 in the playoffs?

[regaleagle]

Yep!

[defense51]

Kinda suprised we are ranked ( Henderson) we will be good but may miss out on the postseason. I hope I am wrong lol.How many starters did yall lose on offense?

[Lion70]

How many starters did yall lose on offense?
Henderson has 8 starters returning on defense and 5 on offense They also have 3 all-state players returning as well as Contrell Phillips "who got hurt in the first game last year" that is a beast of a football player. We are in the same shoes Gilmer is if we have one of our young guys step up at Q.B. they should be VERY good but a Extremly hard district . I'm not being a homer it's just facts and we have a undefeated J.V. coming up as well. We also replaced our Offensive Coord ( Head Coach @ 1a Garrison). If we replace our QB DEL Barnes we should hae a playoff spot.

[Lion70]

So anybody got a copy . Is it as good as last years. I am hoping to get one arounfd Henderson but I won't hold my breath lol.

[buckeyebob]

Our district isn't hard to predict. Of Sweeny's 9 games 4 are in the Top 25

Pshaw...District 16 has 4 in the top 14...Chapel Hill is a defending State Champ

[Lion70]

Pshaw...District 16 has 4 in the top 14...Chapel Hill is a defending State Champ

Don't post facts they are The District of Doom Pretender. LOL Seriously the State was helped out by puting both these districts together. I bet they got tired of us winning State Championships.

[OLE'BULL]

3A Top 25
1. S'ville
2. LaMarque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberly
8. henderson
9. Waco la Vega
10 Celina
11. Tyler Chapel Hill
12. Gilmer
13. Alvarado
14. Kilgore
15. Melissa
16. El Campo
17. Monahans
18. Abilene Wylie
19. Sealy
20. Liberty Hill
21. West Columbia
22. Lubbock Estacado
23. West Orange-Stark
24. Bellville
25. Houston Yates

Coldspring at #4?!?!?! NO WAY. If so, then Bellville is too low. 3OT against Coldspring last year. That is not a 20 rank difference IMO :o:o:o

[Bull's-eye]

Coldspring at #4?!?!?! NO WAY. If so, then Bellville is too low. 3OT against Coldspring last year. That is not a 20 rank difference IMO :o:o:o

I did notice that CS had a ton of players coming back, so maybe the #4 ranking is in line. I agree that Bellville should be higher, but they did lose a lot of their interior line on both sides of the ball.

[Manso/V8]

I did notice that CS had a ton of players coming back, so maybe the #4 ranking is in line. I agree that Bellville should be higher, but they did lose a lot of their interior line on both sides of the ball.

Yeah, but we got a better line coming back, overall stronger, more athletic, and bigger on average.
Those speedy backs from last year are bigger, stronger, more powerful, and faster.........not to mention, the passing game will be improved.
Overall we are faster on offense and defense.
Plus, they have a year under their belt with the new coach and new system.
These kids have big game experience now, something they lacked last year.
That's what got them against Sealy and Coldspring.
I think Bellville will Rowell!!

[Gsquared]

Yeah, but we got a better line coming back, overall stronger, more athletic, and bigger on average.
Those speedy backs from last year are bigger, stronger, more powerful, and faster.........not to mention, the passing game will be improved.
Overall we are faster on offense and defense.
Plus, they have a year under their belt with the new coach and new system.
These kids have big game experience now, something they lacked last year.
That's what got them against Sealy and Coldspring.
I think Bellville will Rowell!!
Might have head down to the Pasture of Pain again this year to see a game.

[Manso/V8]

Might have head down to the Pasture of Pain again this year to see a game.
Do it! Austin County is the beer drinking capitol of Texas, I think you will fit right in!

[Gone Fishing]

Do it! Austin County is the beer drinking capitol of Texas, I think you will fit right in!

LOL... Only if the Browns from over there in Sealy (SFA golf course) count.. Those boys can drink um some beer.

[Manso/V8]

LOL... Only if the Browns from over there in Sealy (SFA golf course) count.. Those boys can drink um some beer.

It ain't no joke, for many years, (not if sure if it is still true), Austin County had the highest per capita beer consumption of any county in Texas, and the highest across the South to Jacksonville, Fla.....except there were some years Washington County(Brenham) took the title. We used to have a summer festival were the fact was proudly proclaimed. Most of the folk around here come from German and Czech stock, and there are a lot of Lutherans and Catholics as opposed to the predominance of Baptists and Church of Christ folks in other parts of Texas. It sounds like the Brown boys are keepin' the tradition alive.

[RoyceTTU]

Please let the record show that I read through the last ten or so post, and I'm shocked I havnt seen one post from manso that has something to do with Stephenville. AMAZING!!!!

[Manso/V8]

Please let the record show that I read through the last ten or so post, and I'm shocked I havnt seen one post from manso that has something to do with Stephenville. AMAZING!!!!

I apologize for drifting off topic.

[Ville-D]

Please let the record show that I read through the last ten or so post, and I'm shocked I havnt seen one post from manso that has something to do with Stephenville. AMAZING!!!!

Between talking about Stephenville and 19 year old boy I'd say that charles Manson8 has some issues. What team does he support anyway (besides who ever is going up against Stephenville each week)

[Manso/V8]

Between talking about Stephenville and 19 year old boy I'd say that charles Manson8 has some issues. What team does he support anyway (besides who ever is going up against Stephenville each week)

I haven't said one bad thing about Stephenville, all I have done is join in on the conversation with you Village People. I think it was a least a couple of the Village People that said they held their kids back in school to give them an advantage in sports, I was just curious how many. So why attack me personally? You are going to liken me to Charles Manson? Wow, yall must be pretty sensitive about the holding kids back subject.

What team do I support? Google Manso/V8 for a clue and report back, or you could look up a few posts in the thread.

How many of them YellowJackets are gonna be 19 this year?

[regaleagle]

I haven't got my copy this year yet, but I'll tell you what...they did hit the nail on the head last year for DII for the SC game. Of course, that was LAST year, which ain't THIS year. IMO, this year will be a little tougher to forecast in 3A in both divisions with all the contenders, drop downs, and pretenders to choose from. I look forward to seeing just how close(or far off) DCTF will be THIS season in their evaluations, considering 3A will be absolutely "loaded" with very good teams across all regions. Surprise, surprise, surprise!!! This is gonna be a great season in 3A, maybe the best yet.

[Roughneck93]

DCTF semi-finalists and finals predictions....

DI:
Region 1 Champ: Stephenville over Lubbock Cooper
Region 2 Champ: Argyle over Paris
Region 3 Champ: Carthage over Yates
Region 4 Champ: El Campo over Rockport-Fulton
Finals: Stephenville over Carthage

DII:
Region 1 Champ: Monahans over Alvarado
Region 2 Champ: Celina over Atlanta
Region 3 Champ: La Marque over West Orange-Stark
Region 4 Champ: Sealy over Bellville
Finals: La Marque over Celina

[Manso/V8]

DCTF semi-finalists and finals predictions....

DI:
Region 1 Champ: Stephenville over Lubbock Cooper
Region 2 Champ: Argyle over Paris
Region 3 Champ: Carthage over Yates
Region 4 Champ: El Campo over Rockport-Fulton
Finals: Stephenville over Carthage

DII:
Region 1 Champ: Monahans over Alvarado
Region 2 Champ: Celina over Atlanta
Region 3 Champ: La Marque over West Orange-Stark
Region 4 Champ: Sealy over Bellville
Finals: La Marque over Celina

Do they have Wimberley going D1?
Wimberley is ranked ahead of Bellville and Sealy in the preseason rankings.

[Gone Fishing]

Do they have Wimberley going D1?
Wimberley is ranked ahead of Bellville and Sealy in the preseason rankings.
Wimberley cant be DI. not possible ... Weird but they were right last year.

[Manso/V8]

Wimberley cant be DI. not possible ... Weird but they were right last year.

Wimberley would face either Bellville or Sealy in the second round, if all make the playoffs and win their first round game.
I am feeling the pressure already!

[Eagle1]

3A Top 25
1. S'ville
2. LaMarque
3. Carthage
4. Coldspring
5. Navasota
6. Argyle
7. Wimberly
8. henderson
9. Waco la Vega
10 Celina
11. Tyler Chapel Hill
12. Gilmer
13. Alvarado
14. Kilgore
15. Melissa
16. El Campo
17. Monahans
18. Abilene Wylie
19. Sealy
20. Liberty Hill
21. West Columbia
22. Lubbock Estacado
23. West Orange-Stark
24. Bellville
25. Houston Yates

Wow how 3a has changed in the last fifteen years no Cuero, Gainesville, Vernon, Commerce, Daingerfield, Sweetwater and others that used to be up at the top. I see Sealy is back in the mix.

[buckeyebob]

Gilmer WalMart has 'em.

[regaleagle]

Just to clear the air for everybody, it is very possible for Frisco Lone Star in District 10 to become the DI team out of our district. That throws Argyle back into DII, which makes for a whole different scenario in Region 2 and the playoff picture, IMO. They have a very good qb, and only need to win a few key games to make the playoffs in this 5 member district. Of course, being only in their 2nd year as school with 825 enrollment, they have athletes and most everybody coming back. Frisco Wakeland did the same thing in their 2nd season, and then moved up to 4A. This is a pivotal team to watch in Region II and District 10 because the outcome WILL have an effect, maybe a BIG one, on the playoff picture for both DI and DII statewide. IF Lone Star does make the playoffs, I look for Paris vs. Henderson in Region 2.

[Bull's-eye]

Yeah, but we got a better line coming back, overall stronger, more athletic, and bigger on average.
Those speedy backs from last year are bigger, stronger, more powerful, and faster.........not to mention, the passing game will be improved.
Overall we are faster on offense and defense.
Plus, they have a year under their belt with the new coach and new system.
These kids have big game experience now, something they lacked last year.
That's what got them against Sealy and Coldspring.
I think Bellville will Rowell!!

I'll take your word, DCTF stated that Bellville could be dangerous if they can come up with a defense. I think they will have a good group of LB's & DB's, but they lost their 4 defensive linemen to graduation. Is their help coming up in that area?

[regaleagle]

Of course, for Henderson to go DI means Bullard gets in District 16, which means Kilgore or Chapel Hill doesn't. Tell ya what, let's just forget the whole thing! Who in the whole state knows anything really about Region 2, and esp. District 16!!! :crazy1:

[SHSBulldog00]

Wow how 3a has changed in the last fifteen years no Cuero, Gainesville, Vernon, Commerce, Daingerfield, Sweetwater and others that used to be up at the top. I see Sealy is back in the mix.

Enrollment changes (lack of growth) in some of the areas of which you mentioned. They will continue to be competitive but haven't been starting in the Top 25 in a while. As an example we (Sweeny) were in the Top 25 twelve years ago with an enrollment of 730. This year we are picked 3rd in District with like 590.

That makes us the 2nd smallest school in our new district. You don't have to have many kids to be competitive but often times it becomes a factor when you have several kids playing both ways and your opponent can keep fresh players on the field.

[Manso/V8]

I'll take your word, DCTF stated that Bellville could be dangerous if they can come up with a defense. I think they will have a good group of LB's & DB's, but they lost their 4 defensive linemen to graduation. Is their help coming up in that area?

Sure we lost those 4 defensive lineman to graduation, but remember, only one of those four saw any time on the varsity DL the year before, and that was sparingly. One moved from FB, the other from OLB, one from OG (but rarely saw the field), and the fourth kid played JV as junior. There are some talented and effective juniors and seniors that are stepping up to fill those slots. A lot of those kids were rotated in on a regular basis last year, and with the big lead we had in so many of those games, they played about 1/2 of the 3rd, and all of the 4th quarter in many games. I don't remember seeing a huge drop off when the second team was in last year. There are a couple of very good DL prospects coming up from JV that saw some varsity action last year. Plus, I expect there could be some shifting of positions as well, maybe moving one of the stronger kids on the team from second string RB to DL (he's fast, just not as fast as those speed backs), likely a LB moved to DE, and the possibility of rotating some our OL in on defense as needed. The C (6'3"/250) started on the DL and the TE (6'3"/235) saw significant playing time at OLB two years ago as sophomores. I wouldn't be surprised to see them at DT/DE/LB, at least part of the time. A lot of this comes down to coaching and coaching decisions about putting kids in positions where they can help the team the most, and Coach Rowe seems to be great at both. If you recall, the All-District defensive MVP (at MLB) and one of the leading tacklers in 3a for the season, only saw the field on special teams the year before.

I don't know if we will make a deep run and meet Sealy in the Region 4 finals as DCTF predicts, but I do think we are going to have a very good team, and a great season. At this point, I am more interested in focusing on the tough district we are in this year. Just think, our final district game is against Sealy in Sealy! I know you have experienced that electrifying rivalry, but this year it is gonna be high voltage. You better get to Tiger stadium the day before if you want a seat!

[Gone Fishing]

Wimberley would face either Bellville or Sealy in the second round, if all make the playoffs and win their first round game.
I am feeling the pressure already!

Yeah, I looked at the brackets after the new alignments came out and figured that out too. I feel the pressure also. LOL The UIL kept our district teams all the same, but moved us all to D27 instead of D26. But in real I just want Wimberley to make the playoffs first and then go from there. As you know anything can happen after that.

[Manso/V8]

Yeah, I looked at the brackets after the new alignments came out and figured that out too. I feel the pressure also. LOL The UIL kept our district teams all the same, but moved us all to D27 instead of D26. But in real I just want Wimberley to make the playoffs first and then go from there. As you know anything can happen after that.

Anything can happen in the playoffs, that's for sure. Honestly, I am looking at our district as a playoff bracket of sorts. We have three teams ranked in the preseason top 25, and the rest of the district has potential. Every district game is going to be competitive, so focus on earning a playoff spot is key. Then the first round game out of our district faces what I would consider the scrappiest, most competitive district top to bottom(D26) in R4, if not the state! So, advancing past the first round is 50-50. Then depending on how the chips fall, the third round will likely face the defending state champs.....err, I think that would be Wimberley, who I am sure will be reloaded and have kids with plenty of big game experience.. If DCTF is right, that would be Bellville or Sealy. It would be great if the Brahmas faced The Texans at some point, I just hope it is later in the bracket if we make it that far! Yall have some grand experience with Sealy over the last couple of years, that would be a helluva game. I think this is gonna be a fun year!

How do you rank the other teams in D27? My guess is that Canyon Lake would likely go D1?

[Gone Fishing]

Anything can happen in the playoffs, that's for sure. Honestly, I am looking at our district as a playoff bracket of sorts. We have three teams ranked in the preseason top 25, and the rest of the district has potential. Every district game is going to be competitive, so focus on earning a playoff spot is key. Then the first round game out of our district faces what I would consider the scrappiest, most competitive district top to bottom(D26) in R4, if not the state! So, advancing past the first round is 50-50. Then depending on how the chips fall, the third round will likely face the defending state champs.....err, I think that would be Wimberley, who I am sure will be reloaded and have kids with plenty of big game experience.. If DCTF is right, that would be Bellville or Sealy. It would be great if the Brahmas faced The Texans at some point, I just hope it is later in the bracket if we make it that far! Yall have some grand experience with Sealy over the last couple of years, that would be a helluva game. I think this is gonna be a fun year!

How do you rank the other teams in D27? My guess is that Canyon Lake would likely go D1?

Well thats how DCTF has it: WT, Navarro, and CL, but I have it different. Ive been watching all these teams a long time. CL, Boerne and Fredricksburg all have close to 950 + students. I think Navarro may be down some this year (DC's #2 pick in district) and I think both Boerne and Fred may be right in the middle of all of it, so my prediction is top 4 - no order - WT, Boerne, CL, Fred. Fred is biggest (975) followed by Boerne (958), CL. (916)

[GregTepper]

Hey folks.

My name is Greg Tepper; I'm the associate editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football and TexasFootball.com. I've enjoyed reading your feedback on the magazine; we're always listening to our fans for ways to improve the product.

I'd be happy to answer any questions y'all have.

[CTS]

Enjoyed the magazine Mr. Tepper. Keep up the great work. Eager to see my La Marque Cougars in the fall.

[Ville-D]

Hey folks.

My name is Greg Tepper; I'm the associate editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football and TexasFootball.com. I've enjoyed reading your feedback on the magazine; we're always listening to our fans for ways to improve the product.

I'd be happy to answer any questions y'all have.

Great job this year. Thanks for all y'all do. I have been following you on twitter for the past year - always good stuff.

Hopefully Stephenville will live up to their ranking...

Thanks again.

[MGAR]

Hey folks.

My name is Greg Tepper; I'm the associate editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football and TexasFootball.com. I've enjoyed reading your feedback on the magazine; we're always listening to our fans for ways to improve the product.

I'd be happy to answer any questions y'all have.

I have a question.

If tropical storm Debbie would of made it to Dallas would that of been considered the sequel?

Good work on the mag.

[toddg]

Hey folks.

My name is Greg Tepper; I'm the associate editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football and TexasFootball.com. I've enjoyed reading your feedback on the magazine; we're always listening to our fans for ways to improve the product.

I'd be happy to answer any questions y'all have. just bought my copy today..good job as usual. Any news at all about Dallas Prime Academy? all i know is a player from my son's 8th grade team last year enrolled..but he played on the Truth teams previously..are they even scheduled to play non-district games? sounds like alot of bs to me.

[GregTepper]

just bought my copy today..good job as usual. Any news at all about Dallas Prime Academy? all i know is a player from my son's 8th grade team last year enrolled..but he played on the Truth teams previously..are they even scheduled to play non-district games? sounds like alot of bs to me.

There is, basically, no information on Dallas Prime Academy. We searched and searched, and called and called, and dug and dug, and couldn't find any information about players, coaches, a schedule or anything like that. To be real honest, I'm not sure they'll actually field a team. That's how little we know about them.

[Tejastrue]

Hey folks.

My name is Greg Tepper; I'm the associate editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football and TexasFootball.com. I've enjoyed reading your feedback on the magazine; we're always listening to our fans for ways to improve the product.

I'd be happy to answer any questions y'all have.



Welcome Greg. You have Wimberley ranked #7 yet Sealy #19 and Bellville #24 playing for the Region 4 championship. Just curious how you guys came to that conclusion. BTW..I think you're ranking us a bit high. At least for now. Lol. Sorry if this has been answered in the magazine, I must admit I've yet to purchase the current issue.

[GregTepper]

Welcome Greg. You have Wimberley ranked #7 yet Sealy #19 and Bellville #24 playing for the Region 4 championship. Just curious how you guys came to that conclusion. BTW..I think you're ranking us a bit high. At least for now. Lol. Sorry if this has been answered in the magazine, I must admit I've yet to purchase the current issue.

It ultimately comes down to match-ups. We do think that Wimberley is going to be awful good again, but the Texans would (in our projection) catch Sealy in the area round of the DII bracket. When it comes down to it, we think that's a coin-flip game; could go either way, and the winner has a real shot at a regional title. In the end, we think the Tigers carry a slight edge in the head-to-head match-up, in large part because they'll have the single most dynamic player in Ricky Seals-Jones. Again, that's a coin-flip game, but that's how we're seeing it from the outset.

[Tejastrue]

It ultimately comes down to match-ups. We do think that Wimberley is going to be awful good again, but the Texans would (in our projection) catch Sealy in the area round of the DII bracket. When it comes down to it, we think that's a coin-flip game; could go either way, and the winner has a real shot at a regional title. In the end, we think the Tigers carry a slight edge in the head-to-head match-up, in large part because they'll have the single most dynamic player in Ricky Seals-Jones. Again, that's a coin-flip game, but that's how we're seeing it from the outset.


I guess you are familiar then with how our last two encounters ended. No reason to think it would be any different. Maybe they finally convert the two point conversion at the end or as they might say, get the call. RSJ is indeed a great player. Appreciate the reply. Been following the magazine since the 70s'. Keep up the great work.

[toddg]

i actually see Snyder, not Monahans in the reg1 d2 final..and do not see Houston Yates going anywhere in the play-offs(its been a few decades since the Santana Dotson team) LOL!

[Saggy Aggie]

Interesting view on Yates, Greg.

They'll almost undoubtedly get matched up against West Columbia in bi-district, the back to back semifinalist.

Tell me a little about what you're thinking and what makes you guys think that Yates not only beats Columbia but makes it that far in the playoffs.

[GregTepper]

Interesting view on Yates, Greg.

They'll almost undoubtedly get matched up against West Columbia in bi-district, the back to back semifinalist.

Tell me a little about what you're thinking and what makes you guys think that Yates not only beats Columbia but makes it that far in the playoffs.

In short, we think the drop from Class 4A is going to do big things for the Lions. This is a team that brings back loads of firepower offensively -- RB Arthur Lockett and WR/QB Joshua Simmons have game-changing speed -- and a young and improving defense. West Columbia, while they'll always put a good product on the field, looks like it's lost quite a lot, especially on the offensive side. Having Bess back is nice, but this team has to replace 3/5ths of its offensive line and find a quarterback. Combine that with a new coach, and we think the Roughnecks could be in for a step back.

[toddg]

you have Alvarado ranked about where they should be to begin the season Greg..but by mid season through playoffs the Defense will be really good..got some really outstanding players moving up, it will take a few games for them to mature.

[Saggy Aggie]

In short, we think the drop from Class 4A is going to do big things for the Lions. This is a team that brings back loads of firepower offensively -- RB Arthur Lockett and WR/QB Joshua Simmons have game-changing speed -- and a young and improving defense. West Columbia, while they'll always put a good product on the field, looks like it's lost quite a lot, especially on the offensive side. Having Bess back is nice, but this team has to replace 3/5ths of its offensive line and find a quarterback. Combine that with a new coach, and we think the Roughnecks could be in for a step back. while I agree on some points, I disagree on others.

I think offensively WC will be just fine. They've got a game changer in Bess back like you've said, but they also got two transfers in who are great athletes competing for the starting job. With Lynch being promoted from within, I think the offense is in great hands. The knock on Columbia last season was 'how will they replace Daymond Lewis and their o line?' and they did just fine. Same situation this year but I think the QB position is in even better hands.

Where I think Columbia takes a step back is defensively. Having lost 2/3 of their secondary and their best defensive lineman (swanks) as well as the HC surovik who was a defensive guy.

Also with treylon johnican graduating, I don't think their special teams will be as good... And this is where Columbia really had a big advantage on its opponents.

I think Yates will be good, but I think the Columbia staff and players will get it done, then again I'm a homer. :)

[buckeyebob]

Hey folks.

My name is Greg Tepper; I'm the associate editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football and TexasFootball.com. I've enjoyed reading your feedback on the magazine; we're always listening to our fans for ways to improve the product.

I'd be happy to answer any questions y'all have.


Top 25 ...Henderson #8, Chapel Hill #11, Gilmer #12
Dist. Ranking ...Gilmer, Henderson, Chapel Hill

Not sure how this can happen.

[Gone Fishing]

Thanks for the magazine Greg. I have been a DCTF junkie for a long time! And thank you for coming on this board, really cool to do that! You have Wimberley at # 7 and I don't think that is too high at all. I had Wimberley between 7 and 12 in a earlier post a couple of months ago. We lost some great players BUT have a ton of great players back and a few that nobody really knows about. If Wimberley and Sealy win their first playoff game, I see that Wimberley - Sealy area game as a game of the week no doubt! I got go with my Texans, but I do see how ya'll could pick that the other way, your just wrong....LOL

[Lion70]

Top 25 ...Henderson #8, Chapel Hill #11, Gilmer #12
Dist. Ranking ...Gilmer, Henderson, Chapel Hill

Not sure how this can happen.

What can I say The State loves Henderson lol.

[Lion70]

Great job as always. Greg love it.

[Old Green]

Hey folks.

My name is Greg Tepper; I'm the associate editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football and TexasFootball.com. I've enjoyed reading your feedback on the magazine; we're always listening to our fans for ways to improve the product.

I'd be happy to answer any questions y'all have.Welcome to the downlow Greg! Glad to read your thoughts on teams and good job on DCTF. I have every issue since 1968.

[HEMOTOXIC]

As far as Navasota goes, if we go Div 1, I believe that we will have a potential first found match up with La Vega then Carthage. Division II means a battle with La Marque in Round III or so.

If Taylor gets in, we will be division II. It was be interesting to see if the Rattlers can get their line(s) together. Of the last five seasons, this team has the potential to be the best overall team that the Rattlers have fielded. I will save me predictions until the fall, after I get a good look at the 2012 Rattler edition. Just to think that most of the 2011 key players will be back gives me goose bumps..

I will say this, anyteam better bring their A game playing against a Lee Fedora led team. It will be tough, but on paper, Navasota will be in the hunt for the 2012 title.

[Lion70]

As far as Navasota goes, if we go Div 1, I believe that we will have a potential first found match up with La Vega then Carthage. Division II means a battle with La Marque in Round III or so.

If Taylor gets in, we will be division II. It was be interesting to see if the Rattlers can get their line(s) together. Of the last five seasons, this team has the potential to be the best overall team that the Rattlers have fielded. I will save me predictions until the fall, after I get a good look at the 2012 Rattler edition. Just to think that most of the 2011 key players will be back gives me goose bumps..

I will say this, anyteam better bring their A game playing against a Lee Fedora led team. It will be tough, but on paper, Navasota will be in the hunt for the 2012 title.



I bet yall will be big Taylor fans cause you have no chance in D1. Playoff Bi district loss.
You guys better hope

[regaleagle]

Hey Greg, you just tuned into a group of 3a high school football junkies that love your magazine. Posters here are very knowledgable about their regional teams, and share that information on this forum with the other region posters. It makes for a great place to exchange thoughts, opinions, and create excitement each week as the season unwinds. Heck, we talk football here practically all year long to some degree. Your opinions and thoughts are welcome here whole-heartedly anytime you wish to chime in. Just be ready for an avalanche of debate and discussion regarding your posts. No thin skins here, that's for sure.

[GregTepper]

Top 25 ...Henderson #8, Chapel Hill #11, Gilmer #12
Dist. Ranking ...Gilmer, Henderson, Chapel Hill

Not sure how this can happen.

Favorable schedule. Gilmer catches Henderson at a "neutral site" (Lobo Stadium) and catches Chapel Hill at home. When you've got three teams (and, really, four when you count Kilgore) that are all going to be this good, it comes down to match-ups.

[regaleagle]

I know many forecasters, DCTF and the Coaches Poll included, have Argyle ranked much higher than I would have put them. I see them realistically at 11-15 or above in the state rankings, even though a seasoned corp of returners with lots of playing time will be back. Sadler will be the qb, but didn't take many snaps last season. There are just waaay too many teams IMO that will start the season with a more experienced group of key players than Argyle. In our Region 2 alone, there is Celina, Kilgore, Atlanta, Van, Henderson, and GLIMMER!! That doesn't even count Decatur & Chapel Hill, not to mention all the other top teams returning seasoned players around the state. I just don't see us being THAT powerful to start to the season. Our first game against a good Abilene Wylie team should tell the story. If Wylie wins, it won't be an upset in my mind. These two teams are probably evenly matched.

[Rabid Cougar]

The joy of Texas High School football is that rankings mean absolutely nothing, nada, zip, zero. That is why we have six weeks of playoffs!

[Manso/V8]

As far as Navasota goes, if we go Div 1, I believe that we will have a potential first found match up with La Vega then Carthage. Division II means a battle with La Marque in Round III or so.

If Taylor gets in, we will be division II. It was be interesting to see if the Rattlers can get their line(s) together. Of the last five seasons, this team has the potential to be the best overall team that the Rattlers have fielded. I will save me predictions until the fall, after I get a good look at the 2012 Rattler edition. Just to think that most of the 2011 key players will be back gives me goose bumps..

I will say this, anyteam better bring their A game playing against a Lee Fedora led team. It will be tough, but on paper, Navasota will be in the hunt for the 2012 title.

A challenging early bracket path in both D1 or D2 for the Rattlers. I agree, this year is likely be the best team Navasota team has fielded in recent years. It is too early to predict if yall can get by Carthage or LaMarque, or if Carthage or LaMarque can get by Navasota. I am pulling for the Rattlers.

You are right about Lee Fedora. I met him last year and we had a 20 minute or so conversation. He is a great coach/educator and super nice guy with the right kind of motivation for high school football. I know that success and winning is important to him, and part of the lesson to the kids, but I think he puts the kids first.

[Matthew328]

No one has found anything on Prime Prep...hell we dont even know what the mascot will be...I'm with Tepper..I am not sure they end up fielding a team

[regaleagle]

I guess Deion is finding out what it is like to get players to commit to a new environment in Texas high school football when they already have friends and coaches they are comfortable with where they are currently playing. Not as easy as one may think, evidently. Besides, it usually takes several years for a new school to field a football team that is competitive anyway. And these are usually the younger players that come up in the system with the new school.

[Ville-D]

There is, basically, no information on Dallas Prime Academy. We searched and searched, and called and called, and dug and dug, and couldn't find any information about players, coaches, a schedule or anything like that. To be real honest, I'm not sure they'll actually field a team. That's how little we know about them.


No one has found anything on Prime Prep...hell we dont even know what the mascot will be...I'm with Tepper..I am not sure they end up fielding a team


If they don't have a team, what will happen to the kids who rolled the dice to transfer there? Any option to go back?

[Matthew328]

Great question....and I got nothin on it

[Pendragon13]

i actually see Snyder, not Monahans in the reg1 d2 final..and do not see Houston Yates going anywhere in the play-offs(its been a few decades since the Santana Dotson team) LOL!I think you're forgetting that Abilene Wylie could possibly go D2. Monahans is the favorite because they play old school, hard nosed west Texas football...not for the pool of superior athletes. No disrespect to Snyder, but they weren't really a huge factor in our district until Keenon Ward came along...and Wylie almost beat them at their house with Ward last year. I'm hearing promising things about our team this year...but I like flying under the radar.;)

[ccmom]

I think you're forgetting that Abilene Wylie could possibly go D2. Monahans is the favorite because they play old school, hard nosed west Texas football...not for the pool of superior athletes. No disrespect to Snyder, but they weren't really a huge factor in our district until Keenon Ward came along...and Wylie almost beat them at their house with Ward last year. I'm hearing promising things about our team this year...but I like flying under the radar.;)

My memory is not what it used to be, but wasn't the Wylie/Snyder game played at Wylie last season? :vrycnfsd: That's how I remember it, but as I said, my memory is terrible these days.

[HEMOTOXIC]

I bet yall will be big Taylor fans cause you have no chance in D1. Playoff Bi district loss.
You guys better hope

Stupidity at it finest. That's alot of funky hot air coming from a Henderson Lion. But, that's the norm for you.

Tell me why Navasota wouldn't have a chance in Div I?

[HEMOTOXIC]

A challenging early bracket path in both D1 or D2 for the Rattlers. I agree, this year is likely be the best team Navasota team has fielded in recent years. It is too early to predict if yall can get by Carthage or LaMarque, or if Carthage or LaMarque can get by Navasota. I am pulling for the Rattlers.

You are right about Lee Fedora. I met him last year and we had a 20 minute or so conversation. He is a great coach/educator and super nice guy with the right kind of motivation for high school football. I know that success and winning is important to him, and part of the lesson to the kids, but I think he puts the kids first.

I agree, Nothing will be easy. We are definitely up for the challenge. To be the best you have to beat the best. Who knows, Navasota could be sitting at #1 @ the start of the playoffs.

[Pendragon13]

My memory is not what it used to be, but wasn't the Wylie/Snyder game played at Wylie last season? :vrycnfsd: That's how I remember it, but as I said, my memory is terrible these days.Yeah, you're right..I was thinking of 2010. I'm getting senile I guess :o

[RoyceTTU]

I think you're forgetting that Abilene Wylie could possibly go D2. Monahans is the favorite because they play old school, hard nosed west Texas football...not for the pool of superior athletes. No disrespect to Snyder, but they weren't really a huge factor in our district until Keenon Ward came along...and Wylie almost beat them at their house with Ward last year. I'm hearing promising things about our team this year...but I like flying under the radar.;)

Plus Rogers left.

[Matthew328]

Snyder is gonna be down....I could see them missing the playoffs

[MGAR]

If they don't have a team, what will happen to the kids who rolled the dice to transfer there? Any option to go back?

That would look pretty obvious to everyone that players transferred for athletic reasons.

[Matthew328]

I agree, I can't see any DEC's allowing it....the question is if a kid never attends a day of school at Prime Prep does it still count?? I'm not sure if its attending a day at the new school or withdrawing from the old school

[buckeyebob]

What can I say The State loves Henderson lol.

http://clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-026.gif

[hookandladder]

Got my copy yesterday and man no love for my Leps, picking us to finish 4th. Under the radar is not always bad, not saying we will run the table or anything but I still feel we are capable of grabbing one of the playoff spots. One other thing I notice, the Swoopes kid is the 2A cover boy and is not even picked as the Pre-Season All State QB. That has to tell you something, go figuire.

[YTBulldogs]

Got my copy yesterday and man no love for my Leps, picking us to finish 4th. Under the radar is not always bad, not saying we will run the table or anything but I still feel we are capable of grabbing one of the playoff spots. One other thing I notice, the Swoopes kid is the 2A cover boy and is not even picked as the Pre-Season All State QB. That has to tell you something, go figuire.

I agree with ya H&L. The final standings in this new district can end up being in reverse order from how DC see's it ending up. No gimmy district games this year. Take a week off, it's a "L" for ya. Yes, under the radar is nice.

[Lion70]

Stupidity at it finest. That's alot of funky hot air coming from a Henderson Lion. But, that's the norm for you.

Tell me why Navasota wouldn't have a chance in Div I? You just named your bi district area and regional opponents , all three of which you wouldn't beat just saying and I wouldn't talk about funky air cause Navasota can't make it out of the quarterfinals from the Almost Champion of 3A. Stupidity = Logic in this case so put down the beer cause East Texas team will beat yall once again.

[regaleagle]

So at $10 a pop, how many magazines do you think DCTF sells each year? This doesn't count the other edition and the website. I'd say they got themselves a pretty healthy ongoing business with repeat customers. And I've been one for about 30 yrs. at least.

[Lion70]

. Who knows, Navasota could be sitting at #1 @ the start of the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

LMBO

[Bosqueville]

Dave Campbell 3A Dark Horses:

Brownwood
Atlanta
Lubbock Cooper
Van
China Spring

[ctown81]

So at $10 a pop, how many magazines do you think DCTF sells each year? This doesn't count the other edition and the website. I'd say they got themselves a pretty healthy ongoing business with repeat customers. And I've been one for about 30 yrs. at least.

I wondered the same thing myself. Although business is definitely good, I think the majority of his customers are from rural areas. 3A and down. Most of the 4A and 5A schools have enough media coverage from elsewhere and don't have to rely on DCTF, but us small school fans who don't get enough coverage must rely on it. It's a different magazine but the company I worked for partnered with the oldcoach.com and at the Allen, Euless Trinity, and other metroplex games we literally could not give the Friday Night magazines away, I ended up with about 30 copies myself to take back to Carthage when I visited and they were gone in a hearbeat. I will say that some of these games were mid season so that could be a factor but it was the same in the pre and early parts of the season.

[SHSBulldog00]

Dave Campbell 3A Dark Horses:

Brownwood
Atlanta
Lubbock Cooper
Van
China Spring

How is Brownwood a Darkhorse? The Lion faithful on here tell you all you need to know. (i.e.) When 7th grader last year got his first facial hair.

Aren't they suppose to win state this year B'wood fans?

[Manso/V8]

I agree with ya H&L. The final standings in this new district can end up being in reverse order from how DC see's it ending up. No gimmy district games this year. Take a week off, it's a "L" for ya. Yes, under the radar is nice.

I traveling and don't have a copy yet.
How does DCTF have the district ranked?

[hookandladder]

I traveling and don't have a copy yet.
How does DCTF have the district ranked?

Gonzales
Giddings
Smithville
La Grange
Yoakum
Cuero

[HEMOTOXIC]

You just named your bi district area and regional opponents , all three of which you wouldn't beat just saying and I wouldn't talk about funky air cause Navasota can't make it out of the quarterfinals from the Almost Champion of 3A. Stupidity = Logic in this case so put down the beer cause East Texas team will beat yall once again.

LOL- Stupid, just as I stated before or I will even go with IGNORANCE. No team has yet to play a single down in 2012 and already you are claiming that team a can beat team b. Navasota is ranked #5 for a reason. And, as you SHOULD know, any team can beat any team on any given night. And with what Navasota has coming back, why not?

Let's talk about Henderson. Henderson is 0-2 against Navasota. Henderson has won one championship, I give you that, congrats. But, before that season, you were the door mats of East Texas, and that's a fact! So, don't go throwing youself and the Lions in the East Texas will beat Navasota. You act as if Henderson is the Katy's, Celina's, Carthage's of Texas High School Football.

Yes, Navasota has loss 5 consecutive regional III finals. Not too shabby, if you aske me. Besides Henderson winning the championship, that is head and shoulders of what the Lions have accomplished over the last 5 years. Even when Navasota and Henderson were 4A, We never played the Lions. It was always, Carthage, Jasper, Kilgore, etc.

You brang about being from East Texas. Act like it. Most East Texans have some football knowledge. In which, you are showing very little. I would love nothing more than for a Navasota/Henderson matchup in the playoffs.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Got my copy yesterday and man no love for my Leps, picking us to finish 4th. Under the radar is not always bad, not saying we will run the table or anything but I still feel we are capable of grabbing one of the playoff spots. One other thing I notice, the Swoopes kid is the 2A cover boy and is not even picked as the Pre-Season All State QB. That has to tell you something, go figuire.

I don't see La Grage finishing in 4th especially if they can build on their 2011 season.

[Saggy Aggie]

I don't see La Grage finishing in 4th especially if they can build on their 2011 season.+1

I think LG is going to surprise people this year

[Manso/V8]

Gonzales
Giddings
Smithville
La Grange
Yoakum
Cuero

I am surprised that La Grange is ranked 4th, I am pretty confident you will be among the top 3. But looking at the list, it sure looks like a very competive district. I was under the impression that Gonzales had graduated a lot of what made them so successful last year. Best of luck this season, we will be watching this district with great interest.

[Manso/V8]

Navasota is ranked #5 for a reason. And, as you SHOULD know, any team can beat any team on any given night. And with what Navasota has coming back, why not?

Yes, Navasota has loss 5 consecutive regional III finals. Not too shabby, if you aske me.

It is Navasota's turn. If the Rattlers go D1, I think they take the R3 title. With the athletes the Rattlers have coming back, my early feeling is that they are one of the few teams that can match up with and beat LaMarque in D2.

[hookandladder]

It is Navasota's turn. If the Rattlers go D1, I think they take the R3 title. With the athletes the Rattlers have coming back, my early feeling is that they are one of the few teams that can match up with and beat LaMarque in D2.

I think Navasota is a very talented team this year again however I do feel a team that has good balance offensively will be able to control the clock and wear them down, in our game last year with them I think they struggled with us moving the ball on the ground and in the air. They will definitely be team they can strike quickon offense, their D will be the key to how far they go in the playoffs.

[hookandladder]

I am surprised that La Grange is ranked 4th, I am pretty confident you will be among the top 3. But looking at the list, it sure looks like a very competive district. I was under the impression that Gonzales had graduated a lot of what made them so successful last year. Best of luck this season, we will be watching this district with great interest.

Gonzales did lose 3 All State but do return 2 or 3 All State from last season, they should be tough again this year and glad we have them at home. Our schedule does look good for District, Gonzales, Yoakum,Smithville at home and away for Giddings and Cuero.

[HEMOTOXIC]

I think Navasota is a very talented team this year again however I do feel a team that has good balance offensively will be able to control the clock and wear them down, in our game last year with them I think they struggled with us moving the ball on the ground and in the air. They will definitely be team they can strike quickon offense, their D will be the key to how far they go in the playoffs.

Agreed. The defense, although improved last year, will have to be better for us to be the champs.. Against Chapel Hill, we had two turnovers from kick off returns that led two quick Bulldog touchdowns. Minus that, the 10 point loss could have been a Rattler victory.

[Saggy Aggie]

Agreed. The defense, although improved last year, will have to be better for us to be the champs.. Against Chapel Hill, we had two turnovers from kick off returns that led two quick Bulldog touchdowns. Minus that, the 10 point loss could have been a Rattler victory. i still want to see west Columbia and navasota play.

[HEMOTOXIC]

i still want to see west Columbia and navasota play.

I have been wishing for that too.. But, I also know that I should be careful for what I wish for.

[Saggy Aggie]

I have been wishing for that too.. But, I also know that I should be careful for what I wish for.Lol I gotcha, and yeah... I mean obviously these are 2 great teams and only 1 can win but I know it'd be a great game.

If you look at all our common opponents the last 2 years, we have very similar results. Im just waiting til we eventually get the matchup we all want.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Lol I gotcha, and yeah... I mean obviously these are 2 great teams and only 1 can win but I know it'd be a great game.

If you look at all our common opponents the last 2 years, we have very similar results. Im just waiting til we eventually get the matchup we all want.

True that. I look forward to seeing either Navasota or WC or both in the Championship Game!

[Blue42]

Man I like the fact that Cuero is picked last in district. I don’t think I have ever seen that before, talk about a motivator , look for some good things to happen this year and some real surprises we have a QB this year and some kids that did not play last year are now playing. Oh yes we have a great coach too.

[ctown81]

The Walmart in Bedford STILL doesn't have the magazine. Does anyone know of a place in the ft worth area that has the magazine?

[Chillfan]

. Who knows, Navasota could be sitting at #1 @ the start of the playoffs.

LMBO[/QUOTE]

NV will be a extremely good football team. If i was a betting man, NV would handle Henderson very well in the upcoming season. IMO, NV, Lavega, and WC would have beaten Henderson last year. These three teams seemed to be better than Alvarado.

You sure seem like a know it all!!!!!

[HEMOTOXIC]

NV will be a extremely good football team. If i was a betting man, NV would handle Henderson very well in the upcoming season. IMO, NV, Lavega, and WC would have beaten Henderson last year. These three teams seemed to be better than Alvarado.

You sure seem like a know it all!!!!!

Thanks for the support;)

[Roughneck93]

Gonzales
Giddings
Smithville
La Grange
Yoakum
Cuero

LG makes the playoffs....

[Gone Fishing]

I am surprised that La Grange is ranked 4th, I am pretty confident you will be among the top 3. But looking at the list, it sure looks like a very competive district. I was under the impression that Gonzales had graduated a lot of what made them so successful last year. Best of luck this season, we will be watching this district with great interest.

When we played Gonzales in the Area game it was over by half and I think they graduated a lot...Just saying.

[Gone Fishing]

Man I like the fact that Cuero is picked last in district. I don’t think I have ever seen that before, talk about a motivator , look for some good things to happen this year and some real surprises we have a QB this year and some kids that did not play last year are now playing. Oh yes we have a great coach too.

Good luck.

[Gone Fishing]

The Walmart in Bedford STILL doesn't have the magazine. Does anyone know of a place in the ft worth area that has the magazine?
I got mine at a hastings n San Marcos the 21st in the AM.

[warpath]

Fishin... the Texans did win 40-14 but it wasn't exactly over by halftime.. It was 13-7 and Blakemore scored on the last play of the first half.. It was also 26-14 at the end of the 3rd quarter then the Texans scored 2 TDS in the 4th..We lost to the State Champs decisely in our only loss.. Lavernia also played us close,, We lost some good ones as did Wimberley.. 2 all-state players return on defense and a 1700 yard rusher returns on offense as does 4 OLineman and a TE. District 26AAA will be very competitive every week...Good luck to the Texans and Coach Nelms.. He and his staff do an outstanding job
When we played Gonzales in the Area game it was over by half and I think they graduated a lot...Just saying.

[Lion70]

LMBO

NV will be a extremely good football team. If i was a betting man, NV would handle Henderson very well in the upcoming season. IMO, NV, Lavega, and WC would have beaten Henderson last year. These three teams seemed to be better than Alvarado.

You sure seem like a know it all!!!!![/QUOTE] First your probably right about this year ,second thats cute third , Just stating the obvious . Championships tend to that just saying.

Plus remember Hill only won state cause Alvarado choked LOL...

[YTBulldogs]

Fishin... the Texans did win 40-14 but it wasn't exactly over by halftime.. It was 13-7 and Blakemore scored on the last play of the first half.. It was also 26-14 at the end of the 3rd quarter then the Texans scored 2 TDS in the 4th..We lost to the State Champs decisely in our only loss.. Lavernia also played us close,, We lost some good ones as did Wimberley.. 2 all-state players return on defense and a 1700 yard rusher returns on offense as does 4 OLineman and a TE. District 26AAA will be very competitive every week...Good luck to the Texans and Coach Nelms.. He and his staff do an outstanding job


Yeah, that Blakemore score was a killer before half, then that screen pass TD kinda nailed it late as I recall. WT could run some pretty screen passes I tell ya. Yes, GZ should be fav's in the district. Got a lot coming back. Will be interesting and entertaining each Friday night this coming year. Can't wait.

[Gone Fishing]

Fishin... the Texans did win 40-14 but it wasn't exactly over by halftime.. It was 13-7 and Blakemore scored on the last play of the first half.. It was also 26-14 at the end of the 3rd quarter then the Texans scored 2 TDS in the 4th..We lost to the State Champs decisely in our only loss.. Lavernia also played us close,, We lost some good ones as did Wimberley.. 2 all-state players return on defense and a 1700 yard rusher returns on offense as does 4 OLineman and a TE. District 26AAA will be very competitive every week...Good luck to the Texans and Coach Nelms.. He and his staff do an outstanding job

Point taken...I didn't realize yall had that coming back either...

[regaleagle]

Sounds to me like Gonzo will again be a tough out this season...maybe better from the experience of last season. You know how it is once a program tastes a little success, and the players know what it's like to be a winner. Success breeds success. And they non-starters got to play many minutes last year, too. Some of those players were the younger ones that are now Jrs. and Srs.

[toddg]

Dave Campbell 3A Dark Horses:

Brownwood
Atlanta
Lubbock Cooper
Van
China Spring

im thinking China Spring will make some noise this season and beyond.

[regaleagle]

The only region without a dark horse is Region 4. Which team(s) from that region would qualify...LaGrange and Sinton???

[YTBulldogs]

The only region without a dark horse is Region 4. Which team(s) from that region would qualify...LaGrange and Sinton???


Might be a dark horse to some, but--to me, it would not be a surprise if these teams made a deep run.

[YTBulldogs]

Sounds to me like Gonzo will again be a tough out this season...maybe better from the experience of last season. You know how it is once a program tastes a little success, and the players know what it's like to be a winner. Success breeds success. And they non-starters got to play many minutes last year, too. Some of those players were the younger ones that are now Jrs. and Srs.

Tiny will have these guy's prepared. Scary team, and too me, they can go all the way. Only issue, depth behind "The Diesel" Johnson and a solid passing game. They will have this lined out I'm sure come district. I see them going further than last year in the playoff's. One of the state's best OL. Town is totally into it too. Great to see. Good folks and friends over there.

[Cam]

I'm too poor to get my copy yet......how does district 8-3A project? Without even looking, here's what I'll bet it is:

1) Liberty Hill
2) Brownwood
3) Lampasas
4) Burnet
5) Gatesville
6) Llano

am I close?....

[Roughneck93]

I'm too poor to get my copy yet......how does district 8-3A project? Without even looking, here's what I'll bet it is:

1) Liberty Hill
2) Brownwood
3) Lampasas
4) Burnet
5) Gatesville
6) Llano

am I close?....

Close....swap Burnet and Gatesville.

[Cam]

Close....swap Burnet and Gatesville.

LOL!...I was right the first time then I edited....cause Gatesville never beats Burnet!....anyways, I know more bout Burnet then them sons-bitches at DCTF...(just kiddin' Travis & Mr. Tepper...about the son-bitch part I mean!...so, Travis, am I gettin' another photog pass or what?)........Burnet will surprise and make the playoffs in the 3rd spot......you heard it here first!......and after this season, like the band Burlap To Cashmere once sang: "We're gonna take over the world, we're gonna take over the world, we're gonna take over the world".........

[defense51]

Tiny will have these guy's prepared. Scary team, and too me, they can go all the way. Only issue, depth behind "The Diesel" Johnson and a solid passing game. They will have this lined out I'm sure come district. I see them going further than last year in the playoff's. One of the state's best OL. Town is totally into it too. Great to see. Good folks and friends over there. Community support makes a huge difference, it kinda creates an x-factor for the team when an entire. community gets behind a team and supports them.

[Gone Fishing]

Community support makes a huge difference, it kinda creates an x-factor for the team when an entire. community gets behind a team and supports them.

I guess Im' spoiled or just didn't know all communities wouldn't or don't get behind the team big time in small town USA. I can see that maybe happening in the big city drop downs only having the parents and faculty/students (ie. the houston district that dropped to 3A) Wimberley is kind of like the old saying, "last one to leave turn the lights out". There was an estimate that Wimberley had atleast 6000 fans at the state game and we have 700 in the high school. Population sign says 2626. I just kind of thought that was the way it was everywhere. Hell, I can't wait till the first scrimmage! LOL

[Saggy Aggie]

Got my copy of DCTF a few days ago.

Good stuff

[Gontex]

Community support makes a huge difference, it kinda creates an x-factor for the team when an entire. community gets behind a team and supports them.

It doesn't hurt any that I believe 4 of the Gonzales' offensive linemen will be juniors this year and most have started since their freshmen years. Veteran offensive line should keep the pressure off the quarterback and open holes for the running game.

[wimbo_pro]

Coldspring at #4 and La Vega #9...maybe if you transpose the two. Very surprised Wimberley is listed.

Me too, Tejastrue...

[Rocket]

How is Brownwood a Darkhorse? The Lion faithful on here tell you all you need to know. (i.e.) When 7th grader last year got his first facial hair.

Aren't they suppose to win state this year B'wood fans?

We have some STUD move-ins that didn't show up on DCTF. We are def a darkhorse. Our O-Line will be the biggest we have had in recent history. And of course we should win State this year. As long as we are in 3A, Brownwood will win lot of games every year and do well in the playoffs.

[wimbo_pro]

We have some STUD move-ins that didn't show up on DCTF. We are def a darkhorse. Our O-Line will be the biggest we have had in recent history. And of course we should win State this year. As long as we are in 3A, Brownwood will win lot of games every year and do well in the playoffs.

That's great, Rocket.

Anyways...Liberty Hill at the top of the district? Excellent! The rivalry is back...and we meet in week 4 (I believe)!! I will make that trip!

[Manso/V8]

We have some STUD move-ins that didn't show up on DCTF.
DCTF player blurbs mostly come from the coach's comments, maybe they moved in after the fact, or the coach doesn't agree with you.


Our O-Line will be the biggest we have had in recent history.
and the slowest?


As long as we are in 3A, Brownwood will win lot of games every year
I guess this means Brownwood couldn't compete in 4a?


......and do well in the playoffs.
but not as well as you predict, like in 2010?

[Gone Fishing]

Me too, Tejastrue...

Wimbo, where have you been? Are you agreeing with Tejas about Coldspring and La Vega? Or Wimberley being listed? If Wimberley wasnt listed then ya'll are saying they are not a top 25 team? Just wondering.

[Tejastrue]

Wimbo, where have you been? Are you agreeing with Tejas about Coldspring and La Vega? Or Wimberley being listed? If Wimberley wasnt listed then ya'll are saying they are not a top 25 team? Just wondering.

I was referring to the top 10.

[wimbo_pro]

I was referring to the top 10.

Hey GoneFishing and TejasTrue! I was refering to Top 10 as well. Now, I know last year I had said the returning talent was thin...and you (GoneFishing) told me I was wrong. Well, I must bow to you and say you were right. It's a lot deeper than I thought, so my hopes are a bit higher this year. But still, with losing so many starters, I am still a bit surprised we are in the Top 10. I DO believe Sir Nelms will mold what he has into a solid bunch, I DO believe we will make the play offs. Beyond that, I dont know enough. I will go out and watch them a few times in August I'm sure...maybe see you guys out there!

[icu812]

Dave Campbell 3A Dark Horses:

Brownwood
Atlanta
Lubbock Cooper
Van
China Spring


It will be interesting to see how Van does this year. We have a difficult pre district schedule playing 4A Longview Pine Tree, 4A Hallsville, 4A Lindale, Kaufman & Liberty Eylau. If we can make it though that without getting to banged up we will be fine in district. The ? for Van will be on defense, we are losing 2 very good LB'ers and 2 good DE's. The secondary which was a weak spot last yr. should be better but overall I don't see us improving on D. I hope they surprise me. We do have a DT (Sid Moore) that is pretty much unblockable 1 on 1 and has D1 schools after him. He is a load, 6'2" 260 and quick quick feet (34 tackles for loss last yr). On offense we are only losing 1 very good receiver and 2 starting OT's. Those 3 players are going to be replaced without much of a drop off and the rest should be better. We started a freshman at RB last yr. so he should be better. Smallwood had a great 1st year at QB. His senior season could be special. The offense was ranked 5th in RII last year averaging 44 points per game and look for them to be just as good this year. I doubt they will put up 44 points per against better competition this year but they could be better overall and be a tough out again come playoffs. Below are some 3A offensive stats/rankings from Div II last year:


2011 Texas High School Football EWP Ratings


Based on 6247 games between 1154 teams
played between 08/24/2011 and 12/16/2011

2010 - 2011 - 2012

All Teams

Rank Team W L T PF PA EWP PWP WWP Sched Power SDev Class Region District
1 Argyle 14 2 0 649 276 0.917 0.888 0.947 0.702 66.71 12.87 3A II 9
2 Henderson 11 3 0 592 286 0.913 0.904 0.921 0.755 70.93 15.69 3A II 16
3 Gilmer 13 1 0 569 288 0.940 0.912 0.968 0.751 69.57 10.06 3A II 16
4 Prosper 9 3 0 530 218 0.871 0.869 0.873 0.652 64.07 13.45 3A II 11
5 Van 10 2 0 527 249 0.823 0.778 0.869 0.544 52.69 13.86 3A II 14

http://www.adjustedstats.com/ratings-stats/txhsfbewpratings.php?class=3A&region=II&sort=pointsf

Btw, I think Atlanta may be back to being a real threat again this year.

[Gone Fishing]

I was referring to the top 10.


Hey GoneFishing and TejasTrue! I was refering to Top 10 as well. Now, I know last year I had said the returning talent was thin...and you (GoneFishing) told me I was wrong. Well, I must bow to you and say you were right. It's a lot deeper than I thought, so my hopes are a bit higher this year. But still, with losing so many starters, I am still a bit surprised we are in the Top 10. I DO believe Sir Nelms will mold what he has into a solid bunch, I DO believe we will make the play offs. Beyond that, I dont know enough. I will go out and watch them a few times in August I'm sure...maybe see you guys out there!

Boy, that makes me feel better!! I was hoping we would be top ten, but also had my doubts, even being a homer that I am..Lol There is some holes, but coach and all the other coaches (best asst coaches in Tx) will find the players needed. I know these boys from 3 rd grade up and add a couple of surprises in the mix and we are good, "really good", again.. Make sure you come out and watch early scrimmages or first games because you will be surprised of the talent (IMO) that fills a few of those holes.. I believe the QB may be the biggest surprise...

[HSFB]

We have some STUD move-ins that didn't show up on DCTF. We are def a darkhorse. Our O-Line will be the biggest we have had in recent history. And of course we should win State this year. As long as we are in 3A, Brownwood will win lot of games every year and do well in the playoffs.

It is always good to be gung-ho about your team...I like it. However, having a big OL does not mean chit.....just saying. I have watched MANY big OL'man get whipped over and over again by much smaller/leaner/more athletic DLinemen.

[HSFB]

Boy, that makes me feel better!! I was hoping we would be top ten, but also had my doubts, even being a homer that I am..Lol There is some holes, but coach and all the other coaches (best asst coaches in Tx) will find the players needed. I know these boys from 3 rd grade up and add a couple of surprises in the mix and we are good, "really good", again.. Make sure you come out and watch early scrimmages or first games because you will be surprised of the talent (IMO) that fills a few of those holes.. I believe the QB may be the biggest surprise...

Good points...I like our chances due to the guys in the trenches as well on both sides of the ball. Especially the front 4 on D. The lines will be very good and, as you know, everything clicks soooo much better behind them if they are winning their battles in the trenches.

The only concern I have about this team is depth as I see a bunch of them having to go both ways quite a bit. There should be no problem getting through district but depth issues could eventually catch up with us when those guys HAVE to be on the field at all times to make a deep playoff run.

[Gone Fishing]

Good points...I like our chances due to the guys in the trenches as well on both sides of the ball. Especially the front 4 on D. The lines will be very good and, as you know, everything clicks soooo much better behind them if they are winning their battles in the trenches.

The only concern I have about this team is depth as I see a bunch of them having to go both ways quite a bit. There should be no problem getting through district but depth issues could eventually catch up with us when those guys HAVE to be on the field at all times to make a deep playoff run.

Damn HSFB, your back too!!! Wimbo , you show up,, hell maybe sportshack and Gold may come out of nowhere too...Lol - Tejas, GF (me) and a ogg every once in a while, is all we have been able to muster in the off season. Boy has it been a long time since DEC. Lol.. Your right , we will be very very good D in the front 8 I call it and just have to find 3 DB's to step way up. They have some atheletes that can do it. O could be really good too, IF and I say IF some receivers can be found. Depth may be a problem sorta ,but Nelms and Smith don't like guys going both ways and will try to find players to stop that..
And to your other comment above about big O line don't mean chit, so true!!! Look at the state game, Argyle had a very big line with two going big college and we had a 180 pounder and a 200 pounder kicking their ace all night long AND both our DE's were under 190 also and kicked ace too., made it much easier for the LB's to kick ace because of it. It was fun to watch. Central Texas Speed, LOL .. Hope you stay up with the WT's this year, it may be special again......

[HSFB]

Damn HSFB, your back too!!! Wimbo , you show up,, hell maybe sportshack and Gold may come out of nowhere too...Lol - Tejas, GF (me) and a ogg every once in a while, is all we have been able to muster in the off season. Boy has it been a long time since DEC. Lol.. Your right , we will be very very good D in the front 8 I call it and just have to find 3 DB's to step way up. They have some atheletes that can do it. O could be really good too, IF and I say IF some receivers can be found. Depth may be a problem sorta ,but Nelms and Smith don't like guys going both ways and will try to find players to stop that..
And to your other comment above about big O line don't mean chit, so true!!! Look at the state game, Argyle had a very big line with two going big college and we had a 180 pounder and a 200 pounder kicking their ace all night long AND both our DE's were under 190 also and kicked ace too., made it much easier for the LB's to kick ace because of it. It was fun to watch. Central Texas Speed, LOL .. Hope you stay up with the WT's this year, it may be special again......

Shoot....I love my Texans and I will certainly be tuned in every step of the way just like every year. I have known most of these young men since they were kids and got the opportunity to get to know many others during last years run so no way I'm missing it....great group of young men.

I know what a great group of SR's and returning lettermen we have this year and I'm anxious to check out the scrimmages to see how last year's JV, soph and fish groups have progressed. As we both know, you need very strong contributions from your Jr & Soph classes to make a deep run......especially in 3A due to numbrers. The backfield/QB play will be very strong again this year but like you I do not have a good read on what WR's will step-up. There were some young WR's moved up for the playoffs who are pretty good so I'm sure they will be prepared to step in and reload. Man, I love HS football and it is almost here....

Oh and thanks for carrying the torch on this site while the rest of us were away....

[Tejastrue]

Shoot....I love my Texans and I will certainly be tuned in every step of the way just like every year. I have known most of these young men since they were kids and got the opportunity to get to know many others during last years run so no way I'm missing it....great group of young men.

I know what a great group of SR's and returning lettermen we have this year and I'm anxious to check out the scrimmages to see how last year's JV, soph and fish groups have progressed. As we both know, you need very strong contributions from your Jr & Soph classes to make a deep run......especially in 3A due to numbrers. The backfield/QB play will be very strong again this year but like you I do not have a good read on what WR's will step-up. There were some young WR's moved up for the playoffs who are pretty good so I'm sure they will be prepared to step in and reload. Man, I love HS football and it is almost here....

Oh and thanks for carrying the torch on this site while the rest of us were away....

Welcome back HSFB. Enjoyed the post. You and GF keep me thinking positive!

[regaleagle]

I was at the SC game last year too, GF. Just because Wimberley won the game does not mean your Texans kicked our butts. Your team made a couple of big plays, and our man fumbled a ball at the goal line and it went into the end zone...the turning point of the game. I thought the game was played well and fairly evenly on by both teams. Sounds like you were expecting Argyle to dominate the line, and when the Texans played it even, you're calling it like your boyz kicked our boyz butts. That's not exactly a true depiction you painted there, GF. It was a very close and evenly matched game, defensively and offensively. Both teams' defenses ruled.

[buckeyebob]

It will be interesting to see how Van does this year. We have a difficult pre district schedule playing 4A Longview Pine Tree, 4A Hallsville, 4A Lindale, Kaufman & Liberty Eylau. If we can make it though that without getting to banged up we will be fine in district. The ? for Van will be on defense, we are losing 2 very good LB'ers and 2 good DE's. The secondary which was a weak spot last yr. should be better but overall I don't see us improving on D. I hope they surprise me. We do have a DT (Sid Moore) that is pretty much unblockable 1 on 1 and has D1 schools after him. He is a load, 6'2" 260 and quick quick feet (34 tackles for loss last yr). On offense we are only losing 1 very good receiver and 2 starting OT's. Those 3 players are going to be replaced without much of a drop off and the rest should be better. We started a freshman at RB last yr. so he should be better. Smallwood had a great 1st year at QB. His senior season could be special. The offense was ranked 5th in RII last year averaging 44 points per game and look for them to be just as good this year. I doubt they will put up 44 points per against better competition this year but they could be better overall and be a tough out again come playoffs. Below are some 3A offensive stats/rankings from Div II last year:


2011 Texas High School Football EWP Ratings


Based on 6247 games between 1154 teams
played between 08/24/2011 and 12/16/2011

2010 - 2011 - 2012

All Teams

Rank Team W L T PF PA EWP PWP WWP Sched Power SDev Class Region District
1 Argyle 14 2 0 649 276 0.917 0.888 0.947 0.702 66.71 12.87 3A II 9
2 Henderson 11 3 0 592 286 0.913 0.904 0.921 0.755 70.93 15.69 3A II 16
3 Gilmer 13 1 0 569 288 0.940 0.912 0.968 0.751 69.57 10.06 3A II 16
4 Prosper 9 3 0 530 218 0.871 0.869 0.873 0.652 64.07 13.45 3A II 11
5 Van 10 2 0 527 249 0.823 0.778 0.869 0.544 52.69 13.86 3A II 14

http://www.adjustedstats.com/ratings-stats/txhsfbewpratings.php?class=3A&region=II&sort=pointsf

Btw, I think Atlanta may be back to being a real threat again this year.

No need to worry about Atlanta...you have to get by Dist 16 1st round.

[Gone Fishing]

I was at the SC game last year too, GF. Just because Wimberley won the game does not mean your Texans kicked our butts. Your team made a couple of big plays, and our man fumbled a ball at the goal line and it went into the end zone...the turning point of the game. I thought the game was played well and fairly evenly on by both teams. Sounds like you were expecting Argyle to dominate the line, and when the Texans played it even, you're calling it like your boyz kicked our boyz butts. That's not exactly a true depiction you painted there, GF. It was a very close and evenly matched game, defensively and offensively. Both teams' defenses ruled.

Reagal, I was replying to HSFB comment (read it again). By no means did I say we kicked your teams butt!! We were very worried about the size of your line and the size of our D -line before the game. We had a senior kid (Guidry) that weighed 180 at best and a Soph kid (King) that weighed about 200 and one Jr DE(Kelly) that weighed 190 and one Sr DE (Fonville) that weighed 175 AND they gave your "big O" line fits all night long and gave our inside and outside LB's the ability to make big plays all day (ie. Eveleth 18 for 60 - Bossow 9 for 30- Aune 7 for 12- Bode 3 for 17 -Sadler 1 for 9 -and Khan 1 for 1 for a Total of 129 yards rushing) I'm aware of the two big plays on offense we had and we also had two big plays on offense the week before or we wouldnt have been playing ya'll in Cowboy Stadium, BUT our smallish, quick, strong, determined, DL did the job against mostly bigger guys all 6 games. We won State because of it. (IMO)

[BwdLion73]

Damn HSFB, your back too!!! Wimbo , you show up,, hell maybe sportshack and Gold may come out of nowhere too...Lol - Tejas, GF (me) and a ogg every once in a while, is all we have been able to muster in the off season. Boy has it been a long time since DEC. Lol.. Your right , we will be very very good D in the front 8 I call it and just have to find 3 DB's to step way up. They have some atheletes that can do it. O could be really good too, IF and I say IF some receivers can be found. Depth may be a problem sorta ,but Nelms and Smith don't like guys going both ways and will try to find players to stop that..
And to your other comment above about big O line don't mean chit, so true!!! Look at the state game, Argyle had a very big line with two going big college and we had a 180 pounder and a 200 pounder kicking their ace all night long AND both our DE's were under 190 also and kicked ace too., made it much easier for the LB's to kick ace because of it. It was fun to watch. Central Texas Speed, LOL .. Hope you stay up with the WT's this year, it may be special again......



I agree about just having a big OL does not mean sucess however Brownwood rarely has seen multiple big-uns up front. I cant wait to try them out. maybe we can have as many aces as you.

[ogg]

I was at the SC game last year too, GF. Just because Wimberley won the game does not mean your Texans kicked our butts. Your team made a couple of big plays, and our man fumbled a ball at the goal line and it went into the end zone...the turning point of the game. I thought the game was played well and fairly evenly on by both teams. Sounds like you were expecting Argyle to dominate the line, and when the Texans played it even, you're calling it like your boyz kicked our boyz butts. That's not exactly a true depiction you painted there, GF. It was a very close and evenly matched game, defensively and offensively. Both teams' defenses ruled.


Wimberley's defense caused the fumble regal, you can't deny that.

[Manso/V8]

Looks like the Wimberley posters are starting to form that famous circle again.

[ogg]

Hey GoneFishing and TejasTrue! I was refering to Top 10 as well. Now, I know last year I had said the returning talent was thin...and you (GoneFishing) told me I was wrong. Well, I must bow to you and say you were right. It's a lot deeper than I thought, so my hopes are a bit higher this year. But still, with losing so many starters, I am still a bit surprised we are in the Top 10. I DO believe Sir Nelms will mold what he has into a solid bunch, I DO believe we will make the play offs. Beyond that, I dont know enough. I will go out and watch them a few times in August I'm sure...maybe see you guys out there!

I believe by the end of district play this year ( barring injury) Wimberley can/will matchup well with any competitive DII team in region 4.

[Sportshack]

I believe by the end of district play this year ( barring injury) Wimberley can/will matchup well with any competitive DII team in region 4.

Wimberley has its work cut out. They just had a 29-1 run over 2 last seasons. They were a senior laden team last year. A lot of game experience and serious talent walked out the door. They do have a good nucleus of returning players (in fact some of my favorite players) but simply put will be inexperienced and unproven at QB, receivers, and DB's. I am not saying that they cannot be good in those units, but at this point it is an unknown. Their O-line and D-line should be good. Their LB corp should also be good. Their RB's will be very good as well IMHO. However, finding bodies to step up and replace last year's senior class, which had been so productive since 6th grade, will be no small task. It seems to me that it is realistic to expect there will be growing pains. I do think that they will run the ball well and play good defense in front 7 and that should get them into the playoffs. Heck...they probably only saw 2 legit passing teams all last year. Sooo we will have to see how the coaches develop this team and how the sophomores and juniors step up. The 7 on 7 bunch got throttled right out of the gate in the state tourney and reportedly bounced back somewhat in consolation bracket. A pretty fair example of the potential growing pains on the horizon.

I am excited to watch their journey. They are well coached and now we will see if they can get the production out of their underclassmen that will be necessary to keep them as one the state's elite teams. Go Texans.

[Gone Fishing]

Wimberley has its work cut out. They just had a 29-1 run over 2 last seasons. They were a senior laden team last year. A lot of game experience and serious talent walked out the door. They do have a good nucleus of returning players (in fact some of my favorite players) but simply put will be inexperienced and unproven at QB, receivers, and DB's. I am not saying that they cannot be good in those units, but at this point it is an unknown. Their O-line and D-line should be good. Their LB corp should also be good. Their RB's will be very good as well IMHO. However, finding bodies to step up and replace last year's senior class, which had been so productive since 6th grade, will be no small task. It seems to me that it is realistic to expect there will be growing pains. I do think that they will run the ball well and play good defense in front 7 and that should get them into the playoffs. Heck...they probably only saw 2 legit passing teams all last year. Sooo we will have to see how the coaches develop this team and how the sophomores and juniors step up. The 7 on 7 bunch got throttled right out of the gate in the state tourney and reportedly bounced back somewhat in consolation bracket. A pretty fair example of the potential growing pains on the horizon.

I am excited to watch their journey. They are well coached and now we will see if they can get the production out of their underclassmen that will be necessary to keep them as one the state's elite teams. Go Texans.


7 on 7 sucks!!! And we were missing 4 major starters that didnt go to CS and they will all make a big time impact this year... just saying... the QB had 37 Td's two years ago on Jv with one INT in 9 games, he has played QB every year in Nelms system since 7th grade , AND last year had 105 tackles and 4 Ints and 5 FR's and helped changed several playoff games with his play, He will not be a stretch, IMHO.... I also know he will see the "whole field" regardless of who is playing receiver. I also believe our running game and running/throwing QB will be fine. Our Defense could be better than last year, again IMHO. Glad your back SS....

[wimbo_pro]

My hopes are high. I am excited to see if our young running back (Lambert, younger brother of last year's QB) is going to develop quickly into what we all believe could be a real star. I like that he took #32 for personal reasons!! LOL

All I can be sure of is this...Sir Nelms will get the most out of them, thats for sure. It might be a rocky season with ups and downs, but I know come play off time, we will be the best that can be expected after such a large exodus of starters. I think we will win our district as well, but too early to put that in the "prediction" category.

[Sportshack]

7 on 7 sucks!!! And we were missing 4 major starters that didnt go to CS and they will all make a big time impact this year... just saying... the QB had 37 Td's two years ago on Jv with one INT in 9 games, he has played QB every year in Nelms system since 7th grade , AND last year had 105 tackles and 4 Ints and 5 FR's and helped changed several playoff games with his play, He will not be a stretch, IMHO.... I also know he will see the "whole field" regardless of who is playing receiver. I also believe our running game and running/throwing QB will be fine. Our Defense could be better than last year, again IMHO. Glad your back SS....

Thanks. The reference to 7 on 7 was made to illustrate the possibility that there could be growing pains due to the inexperience of the DB's, WR's and QB. Obviously, those are the 3 units involved in 7 on 7 for the most part. I agree 7 on 7 is not a predictor of success. However, it provides some information. Of course, missing 4 starters would make a huge difference. I agree the projected QB starter is a capable athlete and was a contributor in the SC run. He did get some good experience late in the season and through the playoffs as DB. Unfortunately, he will be taking his first snaps as starting varsity QB and will not play as DB. I believe he would have been the only returning DB with any significant game experience. Therefore, there is a need for players to step up in that unit. Tell me about the candidates. No matter how one slices it...a lack of experience is relevant. Lambert had 15 games under his belt and a very experienced group of players in his "tool kit" last year. Not only were the players experienced but a couple of them were considered elite at their positions. Jones will have neither the luxury of varsity QB experience nor anyone touted as elite at the WR positions. Now Jones' experience on varsity as a junior will help to some degree. However, QB is like no other postion. I think I caught a little bit of a swipe at Lambert for not "seeing" the whole field. I suppose that somehow cost the Texans the one game he lost in 2 years...LOL. Make no mistake about it...his ability to deliver the ball was a huge part of the Texans' success. Think...Taylor, think Coldsprings, and think Argyle. I am glad to know that you think the passing game will advance this year. I agree the running game will be sound. I also said that the team would undoubtly make the playoffs. I was just thinking more about the reality of being a top 10 ten team and holding elite status when I said they had their work cut out. Like I said growing pains. Does not mean they cannot grow.

[Manso/V8]

I am all for recognizing the reigning SC's, and a good preseason ranking is an appropriate way to provide that tip of the hat.

If you put that aside, do you honestly think Wimberley deserves a top 10 ranking?

I am not saying you don't Wimberley doesn't deserve it, there just seems to be a lot of "could be's" in your comments.
What do yall really think from an objective point of view?

[Tejastrue]

I am all for recognizing the reigning SC's, and a good preseason ranking is an appropriate way to provide that tip of the hat.

If you put that aside, do you honestly think Wimberley deserves a top 10 ranking?

I am not saying you don't Wimberley doesn't deserve it, there just seems to be a lot of "could be's" in your comments.
What do yall really think from an objective point of view?


I've said from the start I thought top 15 but not top 10. Not seen anything close to Blakemore as a receiver or DB ..yet..but I was very concerned last year with our OL for the same reason. I know two years ago we used Lambert in the secondary for key situations and suspect we may do the same with QB Davis. I really like our running game. Week 1 should be a good test against Giddings. I'm glad we are at home. I do feel our defense will hold it's own while the offense finds its groove before district play. Not sure if that will be enough to go unblemished. It is possible we could be 2-3 by then.

[Manso/V8]

I've said from the start I thought top 15 but not top 10. Not seen anything close to Blakemore as a receiver or DB ..yet..but I was very concerned last year with our OL for the same reason. I know two years ago we used Lambert in the secondary for key situations and suspect we may do the same with QB Davis. I really like our running game. Week 1 should be a good test against Giddings. I'm glad we are at home. I do feel our defense will hold it's own while the offense finds its groove before district play. Not sure if that will be enough to go unblemished. It is possible we could be 2-3 by then.

I kind of feel the same way about the Brahmas, all the fast skill players are back, the starting QB is back after missing last year with an injury, but we need to fill some vacated spots on the OL and on D. We have the kids to fill those spots, we could be very good, I think we will be very good. I think a top 25 spot is justified, but I don't want to step out there too far and say we should be higher until I see how the new group gels.

You mentioning Blakemore reminded me of the season highlights the SC game on TV. I have to say Blakemore was the most competitive high school player I have seen play. He may not have played above his ability, but for sure above his stature. That game ending interception (The Snag?)! You had some other players that answered the call as well. Any news on Blakemore and Smith (both at Blinn?) and the other players who signed to play at the next level (wasn't there a group that all went to McMurray)? Are those plans still all in place?

[Sportshack]

I kind of feel the same way about the Brahmas, all the fast skill players are back, the starting QB is back after missing last year with an injury, but we need to fill some vacated spots on the OL and on D. We have the kids to fill those spots, we could be very good, I think we will be very good. I think a top 25 spot is justified, but I don't want to step out there too far and say we should be higher until I see how the new group gels.

You mentioning Blakemore reminded me of the season highlights the SC game on TV. I have to say Blakemore was the most competitive high school player I have seen play. He may not have played above his ability, but for sure above his stature. That game ending interception (The Snag?)! You had some other players that answered the call as well. Any news on Blakemore and Smith (both at Blinn?) and the other players who signed to play at the next level (wasn't there a group that all went to McMurray)? Are those plans still all in place?

Blakemore and Smith are reportedly at Blinn. Lambert, Robertson, and Alana are shceduled to report to McMurray on 8-10-12.

[Tejastrue]

Hey Manso, Blakemore has the heart, guts, determination, and yes..a little over the top swagger. Of course his size is a negative and can leave him prone to the injury bug, especially with his aggressive style of play. I don't have anymore info than SS does about their status. I do know another OL guy Brad Rodriguez signed a letter of intent with someone, just can't remember. It was a bit later than the others. Maybe another Wimberley guy can help me with that.

[Gone Fishing]

Hey Manso, Blakemore has the heart, guts, determination, and yes..a little over the top swagger. Of course his size is a negative and can leave him prone to the injury bug, especially with his aggressive style of play. I don't have anymore info than SS does about their status. I do know another OL guy Brad Rodriguez signed a letter of intent with someone, just can't remember. It was a bit later than the others. Maybe another Wimberley guy can help me with that.

Blakemore - Blinn
Smith - Blinn
Lambert - McMurry
Alana- McMurry
Taylor - McMurray
Rodriquez - Horward Payne
Holliman - Harding U. (Ark.)
Burtshell - not sure I think a walk on basketball at Angelo

[Gone Fishing]

I've said from the start I thought top 15 but not top 10. Not seen anything close to Blakemore as a receiver or DB ..yet..but I was very concerned last year with our OL for the same reason. I know two years ago we used Lambert in the secondary for key situations and suspect we may do the same with QB Davis. I really like our running game. Week 1 should be a good test against Giddings. I'm glad we are at home. I do feel our defense will hold it's own while the offense finds its groove before district play. Not sure if that will be enough to go unblemished. It is possible we could be 2-3 by then.

Look way back Tejas and I said 7- 12 was my pick. Was also surprised some when we were 7 and 6 respectivly in the magizines. But happy and glad some writers see the program Nelms has in place. Some of you Wimberley guys won't even know the names of a few kids that will start this year at receiver and DB...just saying...and I know LOL again.

[Gone Fishing]

Thanks. The reference to 7 on 7 was made to illustrate the possibility that there could be growing pains due to the inexperience of the DB's, WR's and QB. Obviously, those are the 3 units involved in 7 on 7 for the most part. I agree 7 on 7 is not a predictor of success. However, it provides some information. Of course, missing 4 starters would make a huge difference. I agree the projected QB starter is a capable athlete and was a contributor in the SC run. He did get some good experience late in the season and through the playoffs as DB. Unfortunately, he will be taking his first snaps as starting varsity QB and will not play as DB. I believe he would have been the only returning DB with any significant game experience. Therefore, there is a need for players to step up in that unit. Tell me about the candidates. No matter how one slices it...a lack of experience is relevant. Lambert had 15 games under his belt and a very experienced group of players in his "tool kit" last year. Not only were the players experienced but a couple of them were considered elite at their positions. Jones will have neither the luxury of varsity QB experience nor anyone touted as elite at the WR positions. Now Jones' experience on varsity as a junior will help to some degree. However, QB is like no other postion. I think I caught a little bit of a swipe at Lambert for not "seeing" the whole field. I suppose that somehow cost the Texans the one game he lost in 2 years...LOL. Make no mistake about it...his ability to deliver the ball was a huge part of the Texans' success. Think...Taylor, think Coldsprings, and think Argyle. I am glad to know that you think the passing game will advance this year. I agree the running game will be sound. I also said that the team would undoubtly make the playoffs. I was just thinking more about the reality of being a top 10 ten team and holding elite status when I said they had their work cut out. Like I said growing pains. Does not mean they cannot grow.

No he played safety early in the season too going 1/3 and 2/3 with Gray until the 4th game where Gray got hurt, then played the next 11 games at safety, started 5 games at receiver (Blakemore, Holliman injurys) and got all the back up QB's reps in practice, but didn't play any "mop up" time except early in the year.. I am saying he got valuable time at varsity speed and has played qb every year ,but last year. He will be good, especially since he went football/track only after his soph year and got in the weight room. The players that come to my mind that you need help on may be , Terreo @ rec ( already LB) Rainwater ( a back up rec last year and I think will play DB or S) Nathanial Gibson (who is really good at rec and DB or S) Jacob McDreid who is really good at rec and DB or S and the back up QB), Garret Gabler who is very good at rec,6'3"", and plays DB, Brock McDorman at rec and has Blakemore type hands, Connor Kothman who is a Beast at TE, Colton Cerday has grate hands and also could play rec/ S or be back up QB. A New kid from greater Houston that has great hands and is very atheletic, (moved here last year, but didn't play football (played in Houston), ran track and is fast, Camoron Morris who may play alittle rec when not playing running back and is "Samuels" fast and has good hands. Others that come to mind , are Swisher, Tey Gonzales, Alex Maralis, JD Anderson.
I also do think Jones will play some safety down the road if nessesary. Could be wrong on that..

Now with all that said, Jones has the most pressure of all, no doupt, he is having to get his one year as the leader/ QB and it will be tough for sure. I see a Beatty type situation in the happening, great players waiting their turn at their best position, although playing great at other positions previously.....

PS, we would have not won state without Lambert at QB, I was just critiquing....

[Manso/V8]

Blakemore - Blinn
Smith - Blinn
Lambert - McMurry
Alana- McMurry
Taylor - McMurray
Rodriquez - Horward Payne
Holliman - Harding U. (Ark.)
Burtshell - not sure I think a walk on basketball at Angelo

Best of luck to these guys at the next level. Brenham is pretty close by, I may have to go catch a Bucanneer game this year.......to think
Cam Newton was playing three years ago and I didn't know what I was missing.

[Sportshack]

No he played safety early in the season too going 1/3 and 2/3 with Gray until the 4th game where Gray got hurt, then played the next 11 games at safety, started 5 games at receiver (Blakemore, Holliman injurys) and got all the back up QB's reps in practice, but didn't play any "mop up" time except early in the year.. I am saying he got valuable time at varsity speed and has played qb every year ,but last year. He will be good, especially since he went football/track only after his soph year and got in the weight room. The players that come to my mind that you need help on may be , Terreo @ rec ( already LB) Rainwater ( a back up rec last year and I think will play DB or S) Nathanial Gibson (who is really good at rec and DB or S) Jacob McDreid who is really good at rec and DB or S and the back up QB), Garret Gabler who is very good at rec,6'3"", and plays DB, Brock McDorman at rec and has Blakemore type hands, Connor Kothman who is a Beast at TE, Colton Cerday has grate hands and also could play rec/ S or be back up QB. A New kid from greater Houston that has great hands and is very atheletic, (moved here last year, but didn't play football (played in Houston), ran track and is fast, Camoron Morris who may play alittle rec when not playing running back and is "Samuels" fast and has good hands. Others that come to mind , are Swisher, Tey Gonzales, Alex Maralis, JD Anderson.
I also do think Jones will play some safety down the road if nessesary. Could be wrong on that..

Now with all that said, Jones has the most pressure of all, no doupt, he is having to get his one year as the leader/ QB and it will be tough for sure. I see a Beatty type situation in the happening, great players waiting their turn at their best position, although playing great at other positions previously.....

PS, we would have not won state without Lambert at QB, I was just critiquing....

GF,

Great information on the up and comers...getting excited...I bow to your knowledge about the team. Last year I was concerned about the DB's and the OL inexperience and you correctly predicted an undefeated state championship season. If Jones has a "Beatty" type season, the team will be very good. Beatty is a kid who played an entire college career and once completed 17 for 17 passses in a HS playoff game!!!!

[Gone Fishing]

[QUOTE=Sportshack;1682932]GF,

Great information on the up and comers...getting excited...I bow to your knowledge about the team. Last year I was concerned about the DB's and the OL inexperience and you correctly predicted an undefeated state championship season. If Jones has a "Beatty" type season, the team will be very good. Beatty is a kid who played an entire college career and once completed 17 for 17 passses in a HS playoff game!!!![/QUOTE

Yes we can only hope on a "Beatty" type year. I know how good he was. I do wonder going into that 06 year and he had to sit behind Weldon for two years, if people were wondering or doubting if he could be as good as Weldon. I think he was as good or better just didn't get the state thing. Beatty would have had better rec to throw to in06 but we just have to see how this works out. No Thompson or Samuels this year but a few guys that may surprise

[Tejastrue]

Look way back Tejas and I said 7- 12 was my pick. Was also surprised some when we were 7 and 6 respectivly in the magizines. But happy and glad some writers see the program Nelms has in place. Some of you Wimberley guys won't even know the names of a few kids that will start this year at receiver and DB...just saying...and I know LOL again.

You did indeed. Seeing the new guys, learning their names, watching them progress, is part of the enjoyment. I'll have to admit I do not follow Texan football below the high school level and was not blessed with sons/football players but if I had, it would be here, and an honor and privilege to have them a part of this program. Speaking of programs, looks like I'll finally have to buy one at the game just to keep up with all the newbies. Lol. Looking forward to it.

[icu812]

No need to worry about Atlanta...you have to get by Dist 16 1st round.

Ha Ha third time is a charm. I think we had a decent showing last year against D16. That Van/Gilmer game could have gone the other way if it wasn't for turnovers (which Gilmer caused) and injuries to our two starting safeties in the 1st half (those guys were also our 2nd & 3rd best receivers). Both will be back this year. Our freshman RB who kept having the ball ripped from him is much stronger now. We did lose the receiver who put up over 300 yards receiving on Gilmer though. QB is back and considering that was his first year as a varsity QB I think we will be a threat to pull off an upset in Rd. 1. We scored 40 and 43 points in our 2 loses last year but if we are going to take the next step our young corners need to be better as they were torched in our 2 loses last year.

IMO, Gilmer doesn't get enough credit for how well coached they are. Lots of teams have as much talent as Gilmer but not many teams play together as well as Gilmer does. Part of that is the players having played in the system for so long and having stability in the coaching staff is a blessing. Hopefully Van will build that over time. Don't forget we were a Power I team a few back with most of the current high school players having started in a completely different system, under another HC. Hopefully, our boys learned something by playing a great TEAM like Gilmer.

[Gone Fishing]

You did indeed. Seeing the new guys, learning their names, watching them progress, is part of the enjoyment. I'll have to admit I do not follow Texan football below the high school level and was not blessed with sons/football players but if I had, it would be here, and an honor and privilege to have them a part of this program. Speaking of programs, looks like I'll finally have to buy one at the game just to keep up with all the newbies. Lol. Looking forward to it.

LOL Tejas, Its Wimberley! They have their names on the back of the jerseys...

[Tejastrue]

LOL Tejas, Its Wimberley! They have their names on the back of the jerseys...

LOL..I like to know the first and last name but in reality, from the stands, it's much easier to see a number than a name! You can bet though, if I think he's the real deal, I'll remember his number, name, next of kin, SS#, and if he's quality material for my daughter. LMAO..

[Old Bearcat]

The Texas High school football "Bible" came out in 1st week of July And we have about one more month to go before high school football begins. The magazine predicts Stephenville will beat Lubbock Cooper for Division 1 championship and Monahans over Alvarado in Div. 2 ( AAA predictions )

[83Indian]

The Texas High school football "Bible" came out in 1st week of July And we have about one more month to go before high school football begins. The magazine predicts Stephenville will beat Lubbock Cooper for Division 1 championship and Monahans over Alvarado in Div. 2 ( AAA predictions )

That would mean two teams from the same district are in the state title games. Where have we heard this before?

[Old Bearcat]

Each district in class AAA will have 3 teams qualify for the playoffs: and the school with the largest student enrollment enters Division 1 the other 2 schools enter Division 2----each division has a separate playoff bracket . therefore Div. 1 has a state champion as well as a division 2 champion....I can't recall right off the last time two teams from the same district winning state ....you may know and you were asking us if we knew when that happened. Sorry if I misunderstood the question

[83Indian]

Each district in class AAA will have 3 teams qualify for the playoffs: and the school with the largest student enrollment enters Division 1 the other 2 schools enter Division 2----each division has a separate playoff bracket . therefore Div. 1 has a state champion as well as a division 2 champion....I can't recall right off the last time two teams from the same district winning state ....you may know and you were asking us if we knew when that happened. Sorry if I misunderstood the question

LOL, I know the answer. I was just trying to stir up trouble with the east texas faithfuls.

[defense51]

Each district in class AAA will have 3 teams qualify for the playoffs: and the school with the largest student enrollment enters Division 1 the other 2 schools enter Division 2----each division has a separate playoff bracket . therefore Div. 1 has a state champion as well as a division 2 champion....I can't recall right off the last time two teams from the same district winning state ....you may know and you were asking us if we knew when that happened. Sorry if I misunderstood the question 2010- Henderson and Carthage