Cowboys @ Giants

[YTBulldogs]

Ok Cowboy fans, ready for more heartburn? Hope they play lights out for a change and it don't come down to a final drive.

Oppps, meant Giants @ Cowboys on heading.

[regaleagle]

HUGE game here for both teams.

[YTBulldogs]

HUGE game here for both teams.

Here that. Right some of last week wrongs with a "W".

[YTBulldogs]

Collinsworth sucks as an announcer. Talks through his nose I think.

[lbjacj]

How do you drop that!!!
Pic six lost!

[YTBulldogs]

There's my Boy's.:(

[lbjacj]

Safety!
It's gonna be one of those games for Romo

[Phil C]

There's my Boy's.:(

Good grief - a safety. :(

[Txbroadcaster]

Cool to see 3A get the love

[lbjacj]

Cool to see 3A get the love

Yes it was!

[regaleagle]

Wonder what the 2 pts. just did to the Vegas line, LOL.

[YTBulldogs]

There's my Boy's again:(

[regaleagle]

Just beautiful secondary play, huh?

[lbjacj]

Good goaline stand by the D

[regaleagle]

A dropped pick 6 and a 70 yd. bomb, plus a glorius safety=no focus.

[regaleagle]

I guess you just have to be a beast to be a rb in the NFL these days. Seems like that's almost the only way to survive a season without injury.

[lbjacj]

WooHoo!!

They have been watching Wimberley on that throwback screen!

[YTBulldogs]

That screen TD looked like Dallas been watching Wimberley.

[Roughneck93]

There we go!!

[YTBulldogs]

There's my other Boy's.:)

[lbjacj]

That screen TD looked like Dallas been watching Wimberley.
Great minds think alike!:wave:

[YTBulldogs]

Great minds think alike!:wave:

LOL. Yup, first thing I thought of when it was hash to hash executed. :)

[lbjacj]

Nice drive!

[regaleagle]

Gonna try some misdirection screens on us like Gilmer did, huh?

[YTBulldogs]

Good grief that guy was wide freaking open.

[regaleagle]

What kind of secondary is that on an all out blitz??

[lbjacj]

Busted coverage!

[Txbroadcaster]

The D is so bad when they have the opponent in long yardage situations

[regaleagle]

Seems like I remember seeing this game about 3 or 4 yrs. ago. Deja Vu.

[YTBulldogs]

Seems like I remember seeing this game about 3 or 4 yrs. ago. Deja Vu.

Seems like I've seen this game weekly of late by the Boy's. Tired of it. :(

[Roughneck93]

And Murray out with a fractured ankle? Damn...

[YTBulldogs]

Come on guys, play like Houston. geees. Pitiful seeing them blow like this.

[Txbroadcaster]

cmon D

[YTBulldogs]

Now close this game out NOW.

[Roughneck93]

That was a great play by Lee.

[regaleagle]

That play may be the winner for the Boys tonite. It stopped the march, and was just a great pick.

[regaleagle]

Bingo!!!

[Roughneck93]

Nice!!! :clap:

[YTBulldogs]

Sweet. Now, punch em in the mouth "D". No prevent BS that never prevents nothing.

[3afan]

finally a Dez sighting

[Txbroadcaster]

WOW D..just wow

[YTBulldogs]

Knew it was too good to be true. Here we go again.

[Roughneck93]

Man, that was too easy.

[YTBulldogs]

Man, that was too easy. Ryan's hot knife through butter "D" sucks. While I'm on him, can't Jones make him look better and get a haircut.

[Roughneck93]

Well here we go again...

[Txbroadcaster]

this is like watching a sitcom.

[YTBulldogs]

Un-f*&^ing real. This team really isn't that good. I love Dallas, but--no way a good team, a playoff caliber team, does this each damn week. Sorry. Gosh I'm pissed. Even if they do win, they STINK.

[YTBulldogs]

LOL. offsides.

[lbjacj]

LOL. offsides.

Unreal!

[Roughneck93]

Defense always commits stupid penalties!!!

[lbjacj]

Defense always commits stupid penalties!!!

*** was that??

CALL TO???????????????????????
I'm going to smash my computer

[YTBulldogs]

LOL. another d penalty

[Txbroadcaster]

Let them friggin score

[YTBulldogs]

I'd fire the entire staff. This team sucks. Even in a win, they suck. Should of let him score so you'd have some freaking time to score yourself.

[YTBulldogs]

OMG I'm nauseated over how stupid this staff is.

[coach]

Our d is the worst in the league. Simple as that. Just pathetic

[YTBulldogs]

Our d is the worst in the league. Simple as that. Just pathetic

Fire that so-called def coord. His scheme looks worse than he does.

[Bullaholic]

Pitiful! Just absolutely pitiful!

[YTBulldogs]

No way this team deserves to be in the playoffs. Their a joke. GB would put 100 on them.

[lbjacj]

Deja vu all over again! Unbelievable!!
He has to make this

Wow just Wow

I'm gonna throw up!

[Roughneck93]

Unbelievble...

[Txbroadcaster]

WOW..just WOW...any there will be people who will blame Romo

[YTBulldogs]

Lol.

[Phil C]

Well as usual Dallas finds a way to lose another one in December they should have won. :(

[YTBulldogs]

This organization is a mess. Got the players, but--to me, the staff stinks.

[Old Tiger]

Lol.this....



Dallas are the new Texans.


The old Texans are the new old Cowboys.

[YTBulldogs]

Ok, Wimberley. You see how not to play in that stadium. Right?

[Txbroadcaster]

This organization is a mess. Got the players, but--to me, the staff stinks.

This same D did the same thing under Phillips..gave up drives in 4th Quarters..it is not all on the players, but it is not all on the coaching either..the D has a terrible secondary

[lbjacj]

this....



Dallas are the new Texans.































The old Texans are the new old Cowboys.

And I'm officially an ex Cowboy fan again. Go Texans!!!

[Tin Cup]

WOW..just WOW...any there will be people who will blame Romo

Trust me when I say the loss is not on Romo I mean it. But the missed TD toss to miles with 2 min wasthe game ender and everyone in the country knows it. Let's face it, one play alone doesn't lose a game, but making the play at the right moment can win it.

[YTBulldogs]

This same D did the same thing under Phillips..gave up drives in 4th Quarters..it is not all on the players, but it is not all on the coaching either..the D has a terrible secondary

Fire them all. It's clear they are in shambles. You don't lose games like this, or last week or those weeks you claimed were good games to lose. Period.

[Roughneck93]

This same D did the same thing under Phillips..gave up drives in 4th Quarters..it is not all on the players, but it is not all on the coaching either..the D has a terrible secondaryT. Newman should be the first to go. He's passed his prime.

[Phil C]

Time for a new coach Jerry.

[Txbroadcaster]

Trust me when I say the loss is not on Romo I mean it. But the missed TD toss to miles with 2 min wasthe game ender and everyone in the country knows it. Let's face it, one play alone doesn't lose a game, but making the play at the right moment can win it.

And that was on Austin as much as Romo..dont need a TD there..friggin sell out and and make the catch...but even if you blame Romo...They gave the D a 12 point lead with 5 mins left..no way a good D should even make it go to a 3rd down throw

[Macarthur]

This same D did the same thing under Phillips..gave up drives in 4th Quarters..it is not all on the players, but it is not all on the coaching either..the D has a terrible secondary

Man, this secondary can't cover anyone.

[Roughneck93]

Trust me when I say the loss is not on Romo I mean it. But the missed TD toss to miles with 2 min wasthe game ender and everyone in the country knows it. Let's face it, one play alone doesn't lose a game, but making the play at the right moment can win it.Miles Austin made a business decision on that play. Dive and make a play on it!

[Txbroadcaster]

Man, this secondary can't cover anyone.

come on Mac, have u not learned..that is Romo's fault

[Bullaholic]

Eli Manning is a lot more accurate and consistent with his throws than Romo. He threaded the needle a bunch of times in coverage to keep drives alive, and threw a TD to Ballard with Lee on his back. Romo is still streaky---brilliant and bust...

[zebrablue2]

Trust me when I say the loss is not on Romo I mean it. But the missed TD toss to miles with 2 min wasthe game ender and everyone in the country knows it. Let's face it, one play alone doesn't lose a game, but making the play at the right moment can win it.


:iagree:

[pirate4state]

Trust me when I say the loss is not on Romo I mean it. But the missed TD toss to miles with 2 min wasthe game ender and everyone in the country knows it. Let's face it, one play alone doesn't lose a game, but making the play at the right moment can win it.


And that was on Austin as much as Romo..dont need a TD there..friggin sell out and and make the catch...but even if you blame Romo...They gave the D a 12 point lead with 5 mins left..no way a good D should even make it go to a 3rd down throw

Agreed. I can't & won't blame Romo. The Defense giving up a 12pt lead is unacceptable. I mean ... GMAFB!

[YTBulldogs]

I'm just glad I can see 9 high school games this coming week in that same stadium the Cowboys just stunk up.

[coach]

???? Eli lead the league in ints last year

[YTBulldogs]

Agreed. I can't & won't blame Romo. The Defense giving up a 12pt lead is unacceptable. I mean ... GMAFB!

Fire that unkept, long haired, nasty looking, don't know how to dress or create a defense before the sun rises.

[yellaseeker]

Great game! How about that Giants offense and the icing from Tom Cofflin? :cheerl:

[Txbroadcaster]

Eli Manning is a lot more accurate and consistent with his throws than Romo. He threaded the needle a bunch of times in coverage to keep drives alive, and threw a TD to Ballard with Lee on his back. Romo is still streaky---brilliant and bust...

yet Romo completed 67% and Manning completed 57% this game..and career wise Romo 64% Manning 58%..this year 64% Romo Manning 62% before this game

[Bullaholic]

Man, this secondary can't cover anyone.

I agree. I think the Lion knows that, and had to sell out to the all-out blitz a bunch and the Giant o-line held up and Eli burned them a bunch. Jenkins is the only DB who can occasionally man up on good receivers. This loss was definitely on the Dallas defense.

[Eagle 1]

Even Tony Dungy said Tony's missed pass lost the game, but what would he know.
We suck.

[YTBulldogs]

We suck.

:iagree:

[Phil C]

this....



Dallas are the new Texans.


The old Texans are the new old Cowboys.

That is the trend now Old.

[yellaseeker]

We suck.[/QUOTE]

That makes J. Jones the Head Sucker!

[Eagle 1]

WOW..just WOW...any there will be people who will blame Romo

Yep, and Tony Dungy was the first, but hey what would he know?

[Old Tiger]

You can't miss a wide open receiver. Defense shouldn't have been in a situation to lose the game.

[Txbroadcaster]

You can't miss a wide open receiver. Defense shouldn't have been in a situation to lose the game.

an open WR should do what ever it takes to make the catch..sorry but Austin gave an arm when a dive was needed

[Eagle 1]

an open WR should do what ever it takes to make the catch..sorry but Austin gave an arm when a dive was needed

Are you kin to Tony Romo? LOL...

[YTBulldogs]

You can't miss a wide open receiver. Defense shouldn't have been in a situation to lose the game.

True on the bad pass, but--a defense has to stop someone sometime some week on a late drive too.

[Old Tiger]

an open WR should do what ever it takes to make the catch..sorry but Austin gave an arm when a dive was neededeven if he dives the chances of making that catch are less than 5 percent.

[Txbroadcaster]

Are you kin to Tony Romo? LOL...

I have already said..even if blame Romo for that..the D still gave up 12 points in 5 mins..and oh yea Romo took the team to Fg to make the game go in OT..so again if u want to blame Romo for the loss I have no clue what to say

[Txbroadcaster]

even if he dives the chances of making that catch are less than 5 percent.

and yet Romo put the team in position to at least tie....

[Old Tiger]

and yet Romo put the team in position to at least tie....Can't blame him for the missed field goal. But the D should have never been in the position to blow the game like they did.

[yellaseeker]

Are you kin to Tony Romo? LOL...

That's what i was thinking. Might even have some Tony Romo PJ's. LOL! Awe hell guys............ A win is a team win and a loss is a team loss. Face it txbroadcaster, Tony O'No made a bad pass and the defense couldn't make plays at crunch time.

[Eagle 1]

I have already said..even if blame Romo for that..the D still gave up 12 points in 5 mins..and oh yea Romo took the team to Fg to make the game go in OT..so again if u want to blame Romo for the loss I have no clue what to say

Like I said, even Tony Dungy blames him, and I think I'll take his credentials over yours or mine.
We score on that td, and there is not enough time for NY to come back....well probably not enough time. LOL.
I agree about the defense, but I'm still going to blame Tony and your not.

[yellaseeker]

Can't blame him for the missed field goal. But the D should have never been in the position to blow the game like they did.

The kicker should look like a birthday cake as much as he's been iced in the last two games. lol

[Eagle 1]

The kicker should look like a birthday cake as much as he's been iced in the last two games. lol

For sure....lol.

[Txbroadcaster]

Like I said, even Tony Dungy blames him, and I think I'll take his credentials over yours or mine.
We score on that td, and there is not enough time for NY to come back....well probably not enough time. LOL.
I agree about the defense, but I'm still going to blame Tony and your not.

Ur right I am not..Dallas just needed to slow the Giants down...but they did not...yet Romo is to blame

[Txbroadcaster]

BTW..Austn has said himself the throw was lost in lights.that Romo's fault?

[Eagle 1]

Ur right I am not..Dallas just needed to slow the Giants down...but they did not...yet Romo is to blame

Nope, Romo is to blame for the missed wide open pass. Got it?

[Eagle 1]

BTW..Austn has said himself the throw was lost in lights.that Romo's fault?

LOL>>>>>LOL>>>>>LOL>>>>>>LOL>>>>>>>LOL>>>>>>>>Really?

[3afan]

go MAVS!

[Macarthur]

Like I said, even Tony Dungy blames him, and I think I'll take his credentials over yours or mine.
We score on that td, and there is not enough time for NY to come back....well probably not enough time. LOL.
I agree about the defense, but I'm still going to blame Tony and your not.

Wow. Still finding a way to blame this on romo.

[Eagle 1]

Wow. Still finding a way to blame this on romo.

Wow. Still finding a way to defend him.
The lights? Really? LOL>.....

I'm going to bed on that one. smile.....

[yellaseeker]

I love this thread. Perfect place for a non Cowboy fan to hang out. Yall keep up the bashing cause it's well deserved. Sorry boys but Texans got their $hit together even with T.J. Yates taking the snaps.

[Old Tiger]

BTW..Austn has said himself the throw was lost in lights.that Romo's fault?Yes because I heard Tony's wifes cousin was the lighting engineer for the stadium.

[Txbroadcaster]

Yes because I heard Tony's wifes cousin was the lighting engineer for the stadium.

and ur point?

[Old Tiger]

and ur point?That it is Tony's fault indirectly.

[Txbroadcaster]

That it is Tony's fault indirectly.

Really? the WR has admitted his fault..even after that he out the the team in position to tie...yet lets blame Romo

[Old Tiger]

Really? the WR has admitted his fault..even after that he out the the team in position to tie...yet lets blame RomoCalm down....I was just proving a point that there is always a way to blame Romo, lol.

[Saggy Aggie]

where's ff? lol

[Farmersfan]

where's ff? lol



I'm here Aggie! I'm just trying to digest everything I saw out of our team last night! I saw signs of something I have been hinting at for some time now. Jason Garrett isn't a very good head Coach and Rob (hippy reject) Ryan is so overated it isn't even funny. I saw players "mailing it in" last night and GET AWAY WITH IT! It never been more apparent that this team is built to underachieve. The organization is built to over-hype and under-deliver And I think it starts with Jerry Jones!
I think we all saw the difference between a top 5 QB in the NFL and our Tony Romo! All the nonsense being spewed on here about receivers not diving and lights in their eyes is retarded! Yes the defense got it's arse ripped by a QB that was throwing great passes and seeing every single flaw in the defense. And yes everytime they seemed to have the Giants on the ropes they would get a ridiculous penalty and let them off the hook. But I also saw many, many good opportunites missed by Tony Romo! Some of you feel a good play cancels out a bad play or non-play but I don't. He is paid to perform and perform well. I won't thank him for earning his money. But I put this loss on the entire team. The defense was stinking ridiculous and why has our D-line stopped getting sacks? And why does it always seem like the other coach has Rob Ryan's play book on his sidelines? And perhaps I make too much of it but why would a Head Coach be laughing with T. Newman after Newman missed that pick 6? I think that picture speaks 1000 words about why this team struggles to perform..................

[Looking4number8]

I'm here Aggie! I'm just trying to digest everything I saw out of our team last night! I saw signs of something I have been hinting at for some time now. Jason Garrett isn't a very good head Coach and Rob (hippy reject) Ryan is so overated it isn't even funny. I saw players "mailing it in" last night and GET AWAY WITH IT! It never been more apparent that this team is built to underachieve. The organization is built to over-hype and under-deliver And I think it starts with Jerry Jones!
I think we all saw the difference between a top 5 QB in the NFL and our Tony Romo! All the nonsense being spewed on here about receivers not diving and lights in their eyes is retarded! Yes the defense got it's arse ripped by a QB that was throwing great passes and seeing every single flaw in the defense. And yes everytime they seemed to have the Giants on the ropes they would get a ridiculous penalty and let them off the hook. But I also saw many, many good opportunites missed by Tony Romo! Some of you feel a good play cancels out a bad play or non-play but I don't. He is paid to perform and perform well. I won't thank him for earning his money. But I put this loss on the entire team. The defense was stinking ridiculous and why has our D-line stopped getting sacks? And why does it always seem like the other coach has Rob Ryan's play book on his sidelines? And perhaps I make too much of it but why would a Head Coach be laughing with T. Newman after Newman missed that pick 6? I think that picture speaks 1000 words about why this team struggles to perform..................

Sadly I think I have to agree

[garciap77]

go MAVS!

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[GrTigers6]

You people amaze me, This game just shows my whole point last week. Offense scores 34 defense gives up 37 and yet you still blame it on the offense!
Truly Amazing!

[Phil C]

You people amaze me, This game just shows my whole point last week. Offense scores 34 defense gives up 37 and yet you still blame it on the offense!
Truly Amazing!

True but they (and that includes offense and defense) don't perform when it comes to the nitty gritty late in the fourth quarter. Romo and the Cowboys lose these critical games. When Roger Stauback was there they nearly always pulled it off like the Giants did. Romo will never be considered in the class that Roger and Troy were until he wins a Super Bowl which frankly I don't think is going to happen.

[buff4ever]

I agree a lot with FF. Some other points I think are necessary I think are that the Giants have put up this many points against many good defenses. It is no secrete that our secondary is not the best in the league, but let's not forget that they are struggling with injuries (we lost a nother last night). Newman should make the pick 6, ridiculous. Texasbroadcaster, I don't want to see you spout stats and completion percentages. Can you imagine the stat of how many times Eli has thrown the ball over 30 yards this year vs. Romo? and the completion percentages are only 5 points a part less than that on the season. I feel like I am watching Colt McCoy or Vince Young at Texas throwing 10 and less yard passes every play. While our defense looked bad at the end, they did make a few big stops against a good eli throughout the game. The 3 and out when romo failed to hit austin frustrated me as much as our late game 3 and outs during lead always do. Prolly b/c I am tired of watching our defense, no matter how injured, give up the big plays at the end. I don't like Rob Ryan, but with as many injuries he is coaching with, I don't think he is solely to blame.

Like it or not, no matter how many other things could have went differently, Romo blew several chances to extend drives or make big plays. He found another way to lose another game in December, no matter how much help he had. If he is going to be the great qb some of you guys think he is, it is time to bounce back and win the next two and then prove he can when a big one late in the year in NY.

[GrTigers6]

i agree a lot with ff. Some other points i think are necessary i think are that the giants have put up this many points against many good defenses. It is no secrete that our secondary is not the best in the league, but let's not forget that they are struggling with injuries (we lost a nother last night). Newman should make the pick 6, ridiculous. Texasbroadcaster, i don't want to see you spout stats and completion percentages. Can you imagine the stat of how many times eli has thrown the ball over 30 yards this year vs. Romo? And the completion percentages are only 5 points a part less than that on the season. I feel like i am watching colt mccoy or vince young at texas throwing 10 and less yard passes every play. While our defense looked bad at the end, they did make a few big stops against a good eli throughout the game. The 3 and out when romo failed to hit austin frustrated me as much as our late game 3 and outs during lead always do. Prolly b/c i am tired of watching our defense, no matter how injured, give up the big plays at the end. I don't like rob ryan, but with as many injuries he is coaching with, i don't think he is solely to blame.

Like it or not, no matter how many other things could have went differently, romo blew several chances to extend drives or make big plays. He found another way to lose another game in december, no matter how much help he had. If he is going to be the great qb some of you guys think he is, it is time to bounce back and win the next two and then prove he can when a big one late in the year in ny.wow! Really?

[Farmersfan]

You people amaze me, This game just shows my whole point last week. Offense scores 34 defense gives up 37 and yet you still blame it on the offense!
Truly Amazing!



Are you trying to corner the "Irony" market Grtigers6? In the first place NOBODY has blamed the offense more than they have blamed the defense. From what I have read EVERYONE has said the defense looked like crap. but there are some people claiming the offense (or Romo in particular) has no blame at all! So Romo has NO BLAME when the offense scores 13 points and NO BLAME when it scores 34? Seriously, how can someone with any intelligence at all make the claim that Romo put them in a position to win and they didn't and not also acknowledge that the defense also put them in a position to win and Romo didn't take advantage? The missed pass to Austin was unacceptable for a Pro QB. And all the excuses must stop! The defense was horrible for sure! They looked like they didn't have a clue how to run the Rob Ryan scheme and got caught out of position many, many times. I also noticed Newman running half speed on several occasions when he was beat on the out pattern. I don't know if he has decided it isn't worth the effort or that he has lost his quickness but his feet looked so slow recovering from those receiver cuts. I think we all agree that the Newman missed interception was HUGE in contributing to this loss so why is it so hard to acknowledge that the Romo bad passes to a wide open Dez (twice) and to Miles would have also iced the game? Romo finished this game with a QB rating over 140 so it is hard to argue those numbers. It should have been enough. The only problem with this is that several of those misses in the 33% of his missed passes were wide open receivers that cost the team points. But once the dust has settled it is certainly not all on Romo's shoulders in this game. The defense certainly can't give up 37 points at home against any team, Period! At this point I am thinking we surely need to rebuilt! Playing "pretender" at 8-8 and being right on the fringe isn't going to give us the draft picks that we need to progress.................

[Old Tiger]

This thread is in 100% violation of the 3ADownLow rule book. Under the law that "No one is allowed to agree with FarmersFan." I move to make a motion that this thread is shut down immediately.

[Bullaholic]

IMO, the story of the game:


1. The defense LOST the game in the 4th Quarter.


2. Romo failed to WIN the game when he missed Austin.

Slice and dice it any way you want---both of these points, IMO, are valid.

[GrTigers6]

Are you trying to corner the "Irony" market Grtigers6? In the first place NOBODY has blamed the offense more than they have blamed the defense. From what I have read EVERYONE has said the defense looked like crap. but there are some people claiming the offense (or Romo in particular) has no blame at all! So Romo has NO BLAME when the offense scores 13 points and NO BLAME when it scores 34? Seriously, how can someone with any intelligence at all make the claim that Romo put them in a position to win and they didn't and not also acknowledge that the defense also put them in a position to win and Romo didn't take advantage? The missed pass to Austin was unacceptable for a Pro QB. And all the excuses must stop! The defense was horrible for sure! They looked like they didn't have a clue how to run the Rob Ryan scheme and got caught out of position many, many times. I also noticed Newman running half speed on several occasions when he was beat on the out pattern. I don't know if he has decided it isn't worth the effort or that he has lost his quickness but his feet looked so slow recovering from those receiver cuts. I think we all agree that the Newman missed interception was HUGE in contributing to this loss so why is it so hard to acknowledge that the Romo bad passes to a wide open Dez (twice) and to Miles would have also iced the game? Romo finished this game with a QB rating over 140 so it is hard to argue those numbers. It should have been enough. The only problem with this is that several of those misses in the 33% of his missed passes were wide open receivers that cost the team points. But once the dust has settled it is certainly not all on Romo's shoulders in this game. The defense certainly can't give up 37 points at home against any team, Period! At this point I am thinking we surely need to rebuilt! Playing "pretender" at 8-8 and being right on the fringe isn't going to give us the draft picks that we need to progress.................So what your saying is Romo cant make a mistake but the defense is allowed because they are facing a tougher offense.(Not saying today But you have said that the defense was excused when the give up lots of points to lose the game)
Romo's throw to austin was hurried due to pressure in his face. But it also looked like austin slowed down on the route. Now not saying that it was a great throw.( however I think that Austin didnt see it until it was too late or he would have dove.( At least I would Hope)
He should have put some air under it. However the play did not lose the game. because the defense would have still had plenty of time to give it away again.

[Farmersfan]

IMO, the story of the game:


1. The defense LOST the game in the 4th Quarter.


2. Romo failed to WIN the game when he missed Austin.

Slice and dice it any way you want---both of these points, IMO, are valid.


I agree 100%! This loss was as much on the defense as it was on anyone. But Romo certainly missed a lot of opportunities to "Put It Away"! but with defensive efforts like this one it really doesn't matter. This team is going nowhere soon! If it isn't Romo losing the game it will be someone else! Making mistakes and under achieving has become the culture for the Dallas Cowboys!

[Farmersfan]

So what your saying is Romo cant make a mistake but the defense is allowed because they are facing a tougher offense.(Not saying today But you have said that the defense was excused when the give up lots of points to lose the game)
Romo's throw to austin was hurried due to pressure in his face. But it also looked like austin slowed down on the route. Now not saying that it was a great throw.( however I think that Austin didnt see it until it was too late or he would have dove.( At least I would Hope)
He should have put some air under it. However the play did not lose the game. because the defense would have still had plenty of time to give it away again.


I never said Romo can't make mistakes! But if he does how is it acceptable to EXCUSE those mistakes. Everybody makes them! But Romo is the only one you guys make excuses for. And I have never excused the defense for giving up a lot of points. What I said was "If the defense keeps the game close and the difference in score was a QB mistake then the mistake is the reason for the loss"! That is common sense! No body is excusing Newman's dropped pick 6 today. Everybody is grilling Newman and calling for his head! Yet Romo missed 4 or 5 times as many opportunites as Newman did and we are still getting excuses.
And give me a break on the excuses you are giving for the missed Miles Austin pass. Romo had very little "real" pressure on him. He had plenty of time to get rid of the ball and it wasn't even close to being catchable. Sure Miles could have and probably should have dove head first for that ball but even then it's a near impossible catch. Can you even admit a little bit that the commentators might have a little validity when they say the difference in this game was the accuracy of the QBs when it really mattered?

[buff4ever]

We always here the excuses to defend romo, the recievers dropped a pass here or there and pressure and whatever. Look back at last night's game. Eli hit his receivers in the hands 3 times that were dropped. One of them was manningham in the endzone, perfect pass. The difference is that NY fans aren't having to use them as excuses because he overcame diversity.

Do you guys argue with the TV when the commentators talk about Romo's short comings. Or is it just on the 3a down low that you lose your sense of reality?

[Farmersfan]

How about we turn this discussion into a more productive discussion instead of another Romo bitch session? Based on what we have seen from ALL players and coaches what should we look to do to get things fixed? You know I stand on our franchise QB. I think we are fixed at RB and I would like to think we have our receivers of the future if we can just get them healthy. We still have some major weaknesses in our O-line but we also have some pleasant surprises. I think the O-line actually played better last night after Costa went out. The new kid might have something. Our defense confuses me! We see shutdown potential from our cornerbacks at times but then at other times they seem completely lost. I see NOTHING from Scandrick (except penalties) and all those other nickle backs like Church or Alan Ball! Those guys suck royally and the fact that they are the best Dallas could get speaks tons about the quality of out coaching staff and GM. I think Elam and Sensabaugh are ok but not dominating enough to cover to those weak arsed players. I think Rob Ryan's scheme is actually robbing this team of some of their ability. Far too often they are lost in the scheme rather than just getting beat physically. And we have absolutely no blitzers! They all run in and stop at first contact instead of blowing things up! D. Ware is the only one the runs through blocks and blows up the offense with any regularity.

Comments?

[Macarthur]

3a downlow never fails to amaze me.

[GrTigers6]

We always here the excuses to defend romo, the recievers dropped a pass here or there and pressure and whatever. Look back at last night's game. Eli hit his receivers in the hands 3 times that were dropped. One of them was manningham in the endzone, perfect pass. The difference is that NY fans aren't having to use them as excuses because he overcame diversity.

Do you guys argue with the TV when the commentators talk about Romo's short comings. Or is it just on the 3a down low that you lose your sense of reality?Thats because Eli was playing agianst the Cowboys defense. I could have made those throws!:D

[YTBulldogs]

All I know, if your a good team, you don't lose games like this over and over. Period. Both sides of the ball have zero clue how to seal the deal when it's time to step up and put the nail in the coffin.

Basic throws, tackles, catches, kicks and coverages are blown over and over during this span, and that's not acceptable.

Someone has to be thrown under the bus for this one, and fired. Just to save face to Cowboy fans, who are totally pissed off.

Now, step back Cowboy's and take notes on how to get things done when these high school teams enter Cowboys Stadium this Thursday, Friday and Saturday and play with heart for a State Title. Real football.

[Macarthur]

I know I'm going to get blasted for defending Romo, but I think it's very clear that Austin doesn't pick this ball up until very late. Notice how he doesn't make any adjustment until the ball is almost on him. This would lead me to believe that he was telling the truth about it getting up in the lights. I think Romo's throw was fine. And someone said Romo had plenty of time - That's not true. He had to get rid of the ball when he did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw69L-q2hIw&feature=player_embedded#!

[Farmersfan]

Thats because Eli was playing agianst the Cowboys defense. I could have made those throws!:D



But could you overcome "Diversity"????? :)



Sorry buff! Couldn't resist................

[Ruserious]

What about Jerry? Isn't he at the root of the problem? Look how many coaches have tried to overcome his dominance. Heck a Coach obviously can't be effective through a whole season under this over/under achiever.What can anyone do about that?!

[YTBulldogs]

What about Jerry? Isn't he at the root of the problem? Look how many coaches have tried to overcome his dominance. Heck a Coach obviously can't be effective through a whole season under this over/under achiever.What can anyone do about that?!

Nothing, he pay's the bills. :(

But, JJ and those caliber of players back then, overcame it.

[Farmersfan]

Thats because Eli was playing agianst the Cowboys defense. I could have made those throws!:D



And the Cowboys defense is still ranked twice as high as the Giants defense is. The Giants offense is not a bad offense and is ranked #7 right behind the Cowboys. They average 25 points a game and almost 400 yards. So it wasn't a surprise to a lot of people that the Giants could move the ball on offense. The Giants defense has given up 121 points the last 3 games!

[Farmersfan]

Nothing, he pay's the bills. :(

But, JJ and those caliber of players back then, overcame it.



JJ overcame it with like 1000 draft picks due to the Hershel Walker trade. The Cowboys have not had really good drafts ever since. The constant failures Jerry Jones has had in the draft every season should convince him to bring in a football man. J. Garrett was supposed to be a disciplinarian who would fix the attitude issues and make this a blue collar team. So far I have not seen any indication of that. All I've seen is J. Garrett acting like he is smarter than everyone else. I use to defend Jerry as a owner because he is willing to spend money but Jerry the owner is losing my respect because he won't fire the GM!!!!!!!!!

[Txbroadcaster]

JJ overcame it with like 1000 draft picks due to the Hershel Walker trade. The Cowboys have not had really good drafts ever since. The constant failures Jerry Jones has had in the draft every season should convince him to bring in a football man. J. Garrett was supposed to be a disciplinarian who would fix the attitude issues and make this a blue collar team. So far I have not seen any indication of that. All I've seen is J. Garrett acting like he is smarter than everyone else. I use to defend Jerry as a owner because he is willing to spend money but Jerry the owner is losing my respect because he won't fire the GM!!!!!!!!!

Wait...You always say Dallas has top 3 talent..now you say the drafting has been terrible...which is it?

[Eagle 1]

I know I'm going to get blasted for defending Romo, but I think it's very clear that Austin doesn't pick this ball up until very late. Notice how he doesn't make any adjustment until the ball is almost on him. This would lead me to believe that he was telling the truth about it getting up in the lights. I think Romo's throw was fine. And someone said Romo had plenty of time - That's not true. He had to get rid of the ball when he did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw69L-q2hIw&feature=player_embedded#!



Romo over threw him, even the commentators said so. Tony Dungy, an ex nfl coach with a superbowl ring even said Romo has to make that pass. YOU ARE REALLY REACHING HERE. LOL.......
Hell even I could made that pass. :)

[GrTigers6]

Romo over threw him, even the commentators said so. Tony Dungy, an ex nfl coach with a superbowl ring even said Romo has to make that pass. YOU ARE REALLY REACHING HERE. LOL.......
Hell even I could made that pass. :)Ok well ok if the commentator says it then it must be true!:D

[Txbroadcaster]

Texasbroadcaster, I don't want to see you spout stats and completion percentages. Can you imagine the stat of how many times Eli has thrown the ball over 30 yards this year vs. Romo? and the completion percentages are only 5 points a part less than that on the season. I feel like I am watching Colt McCoy or Vince Young at Texas throwing 10 and less yard passes every play. Like it or not, no matter how many other things could have went differently, Romo blew several chances to extend drives or make big plays. .

You mean like last night when romo averaged 10 yards an attempt compared to Mannings 8.5?

Or the fact this year Manning is 8.4 and Romo is 8.2? Romo is 6th in YPA this year with 2-7 all being within .2

[YTBulldogs]

Think we can all agree? Dallas sucks and there is blame on both sides of the ball, and those wearing the headsets. This is not a playoff caliber team, organization.

[GrTigers6]

Think we can all agree? Dallas sucks and there is blame on both sides of the ball, and those wearing the headsets. This is not a playoff caliber team, organization.They dont suck yet, they sucked last year, and are playing better this year just need to figure out how to close games with the win

[YTBulldogs]

They dont suck yet, they sucked last year, and are playing better this year just need to figure out how to close games with the win

They should of figured out how to close by now. They are killing us fan's with this BS week in, week out.

[Eagle 1]

You mean like last night when romo averaged 10 yards an attempt compared to Mannings 8.5?

Or the fact this year Manning is 8.4 and Romo is 8.2? Romo is 6th in YPA this year with 2-7 all being within .2

The only stat that matters:
Manning = W
Romo = L

[Eagle 1]

They should of figured out how to close by now. They are killing us fan's with this BS week in, week out.

Just be like the Texans (Wimberley or Houston) and get the freaking job done.

I agree.

[YTBulldogs]

Just be like the Texans (Wimberley or Houston) and get the freaking job done.

[GrTigers6]

Just be like the Texans (Wimberley or Houston) and get the freaking job done.They havent done it yet!

[Eagle 1]

Just be like the Texans (Wimberley or Houston) and get the freaking job done.

You can add Mason to that list. :wave:

[GrTigers6]

The only stat that matters:
Manning = W
Romo = LReally? you want to use that stat? How about last five games Romo 3-2 Manning 1-4

[Eagle 1]

Really? you want to use that stat? How about last five games Romo 3-2 Manning 1-4

Or....the last 4 games Romo vs Manning.....
Manning 4-0
Romo 0-4

[YTBulldogs]

They havent done it yet!

State Championship, Superbowl not yet is true, but---closing out wins they have.

[GrTigers6]

State Championship, Superbowl not yet is true, but---closing out wins they have.I can agree with that!

[Roughneck93]

With the season ending injury to DeMarco Murray, looks like the Cowboys will be adding Sammy Morris to the roster.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/cowboys-look-to-sammy-morris-for-backfield-help/

[Macarthur]

EVeryone needs to listen to this segement. For those that don't know, Bryan Braoddus is a former NFL scout so he knows how to break down film. At about 1:30 on Film Don't Lie part 2, they start to dissect the Romo to Austin play. I think it's a very good EXPERT analysis of the play.

http://www.dcfanatic.com/