DII State Championship game: Argyle Eagles (14-1) vs. Wimberley Texans (15-0)

[pirate4state]

Friday, December 16 @ 4 p.m. - Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, Texas

Should be a dandy!


Darn! I forgot the stupid poll :(

[44INAROW]

DII State Championship game: Argyle Eagles (14-1) vs. Wimberley Texans (15-0)



Friday, December 16 @ 4 p.m. - Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, Texas

[44INAROW]

Friday, December 16 @ 4 p.m. - Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, Texas

Should be a dandy!


Darn! I forgot the stupid poll :(

I am still learning this new format and couldn't figure out how to add a poll in an edit mode - so I just created a new thread with a poll and it's a sticky. so I'll close this.. hope that's OK Rita :)

[44INAROW]

TTT

Good Luck to the Reg IV Champion Wimberley Texans! :clap:

[wimbo_pro]

Oh My God!!! We are actually here!!! On this thread!!! Holy Crap!!!!

[Sportshack]

Actually, Wimberley is 14-0. They had game with Smithville cancelled due to the incredible Wild fires in the Bastrop and Smithville areas. The Texans had some sub-varsity intrasquad scrimmages that night and a skills competition as a fundraiser with the proceeds going to the wild fire victims. It seems like they raised in excess of $5,000. The cool part was a bunch of the Smithville Tigers showed up and some of them participated in the skills competition. Just sayin' and trying ti create a little mojo for the Texans.

[wimbo_pro]

I saw some of the Smithville Crew at the game...they are big supporters of the Texans, and we are supporters of them! I have no doubt that they will be there if we have such a tragedy. It made me proud!!

[Sportshack]

Oh My God!!! We are actually here!!! On this thread!!! Holy Crap!!!!

Testify brotha...never a doubt...especially in that "smooth" 3rd qtr. Oy!!! Tip of hat to Coldspring...another very good team. I cannot wait for your stats analysis on the next matchup. What I have gleaned from these boards is that Argyle is balanced like Wimberley on offense and also has a solid defense.

[Sportshack]

Almost like a home game for Argyle...I bet that they fill that stadium...ooops...maybe not! :twitch:

[SintonFan]

Gotta go with the Texans!:cheerl:

[wimbo_pro]

Testify brotha...never a doubt...especially in that "smooth" 3rd qtr. Oy!!! Tip of hat to Coldspring...another very good team. I cannot wait for your stats analysis on the next matchup. What I have gleaned from these boards is that Argyle is balanced like Wimberley on offense and also has a solid defense.

I will definitely give it a deep look, but the initial view of the stats tells us that though our defense is slightly better, our offense is slightly weaker, and it tells us Argyle's schedule was slightly tougher....it's all so close that we are equally matched, taking all into consideration. Much more to come!! I am so pumped!!!

[Tejastrue]

I will definitely give it a deep look, but the initial view of the stats tells us that though our defense is slightly better, our offense is slightly weaker, and it tells us Argyle's schedule was slightly tougher....it's all so close that we are equally matched, taking all into consideration. Much more to come!! I am so pumped!!!

Then it should be an epic battle..Go Texans!!!

[Sportshack]

Then it should be an epic battle..Go Texans!!!

If it gets more freakin' epic than tonight...I might have to take a sabbatical!! As if. :ack!:

[Tejastrue]

If it gets more freakin' epic than tonight...I might have to take a sabbatical!! As if. :ack!:


Amen Brother...:clap::clap::clap:

[LionFan72]

If it gets more freakin' epic than tonight...I might have to take a sabbatical!! As if. :ack!:

Better be making plans for that sabbatical, they get more expensive as the days pass. Gonna be a WAR!!

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Here is regular season information on some of our players.

Argyle Key Players:

QB Austin Aune, Sr., 6-3, 180
154/270, 2,407 yards, 27 TDs, 5 INTs; 41 carries, 372 yards, 6 TDs
Committed to TCU for football (his #2 sport) and baseball (his #1 sport)

LT Trey Keenan, Sr., 6-5, 270 (Jersey #77)
3A first team all-state
Committed to Texas Tech
Also comes in to play D-Line occasionally

RB Tyler Eveleth, Sr. (Jersey #20)
152 carries, 914 yards, 8 TDs; 15 catches, 162 yards

WR Ian Sadler, Soph. (Jersey #5)
36 catches, 782 yards, 9 TDs

TE Chadd Bossow, Sr. (Jersey #3)
39 catches, 668 yards, 9 TDs; 40 carries, 300 yards, 7 TDs
3A third team all-state TE
He comes in to run the ball in our “bull package” which is essentially a full house package on short distance plays. This is very hard to stop. Austin Aune also pulls the ball out and naked bootlegs it sometimes.

WR Adam Khan, Sr. (Jersey #6)
41 catches, 612 yards, 7 TDs; 18 carries, 120 yards, 3 TDs

LB Carston Bossow, Sr. (Jersey #43)
110 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 INTs, 5 forced fumbles, 3 recoveries
*Had an offer from Air Force on Wednesday

LB Sam Sizelove, Soph. (Jersey #41)
99 tackles, 5 for loss, 2 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 3 recoveries
*Brother plays for Tulsa

DL Tucker Ray, Sr. 6-0, 205 (Jersey #44)
48 tackles, 8 for loss, 1 sack, 6 forced fumbles, 3 recoveries

DL Tyler Luce, Sr. 6-1, 245 (Jersey #35)
76 tackles, 11 for loss, 9 sacks, 4 forced fumbles, 4 recoveries
1 rush TD, 1 blocked punt, 1 defensive TD

K Cole Hedlund, Soph.
16 of 18 FGs, 42 long, 59 of 61 PATs
*Brother kicks for Wake Forest
*Set the national record for 23 completed field goals in a season last night!

P Anthony Fuqua, Sr.
20 punts, 40.8 average, 55 long, 9 inside 20, 4.02 average hang time
Ranked as 34th punter in nation

[lbjacj]

Here is regular season information on some of our players.

Argyle Key Players:

QB Austin Aune, Sr., 6-3, 180
154/270, 2,407 yards, 27 TDs, 5 INTs; 41 carries, 372 yards, 6 TDs
Committed to TCU for football (his #2 sport) and baseball (his #1 sport)

LT Trey Keenan, Sr., 6-5, 270 (Jersey #77)
3A first team all-state
Committed to Texas Tech
Also comes in to play D-Line occasionally

RB Tyler Eveleth, Sr. (Jersey #20)
152 carries, 914 yards, 8 TDs; 15 catches, 162 yards

WR Ian Sadler, Soph. (Jersey #5)
36 catches, 782 yards, 9 TDs

TE Chadd Bossow, Sr. (Jersey #3)
39 catches, 668 yards, 9 TDs; 40 carries, 300 yards, 7 TDs
3A third team all-state TE
He comes in to run the ball in our “bull package” which is essentially a full house package on short distance plays. This is very hard to stop. Austin Aune also pulls the ball out and naked bootlegs it sometimes.

WR Adam Khan, Sr. (Jersey #6)
41 catches, 612 yards, 7 TDs; 18 carries, 120 yards, 3 TDs

LB Carston Bossow, Sr. (Jersey #43)
110 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 INTs, 5 forced fumbles, 3 recoveries
*Had an offer from Air Force on Wednesday

LB Sam Sizelove, Soph. (Jersey #41)
99 tackles, 5 for loss, 2 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 3 recoveries
*Brother plays for Tulsa

DL Tucker Ray, Sr. 6-0, 205 (Jersey #44)
48 tackles, 8 for loss, 1 sack, 6 forced fumbles, 3 recoveries

DL Tyler Luce, Sr. 6-1, 245 (Jersey #35)
76 tackles, 11 for loss, 9 sacks, 4 forced fumbles, 4 recoveries
1 rush TD, 1 blocked punt, 1 defensive TD

K Cole Hedlund, Soph.
16 of 18 FGs, 42 long, 59 of 61 PATs
*Brother kicks for Wake Forest
*Set the national record for 23 completed field goals in a season last night!

P Anthony Fuqua, Sr.
20 punts, 40.8 average, 55 long, 9 inside 20, 4.02 average hang time
Ranked as 34th punter in nation

Impressive!:clap:

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Here are the Massey Ratings for both teams in 3A/State:

Argyle:
Team Rank – 2/14
Schedule – 5/104
Offense – 4/21
Defense – 7/36
Power – 2/17

Wimberely:
Team Rank – 6/22
Schedule – 19/221
Offense – 11/76
Defense – 4/29
Power – 6/29

The prediction is a Argyle 34 – Wimberley 28 from this site http://www.highschoolsports.net/massey/matchup/Football/Varsity/Boys/2011/

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Argyle High School Football

Coach:
Todd Rodgers
Head coach since 2004
74-21 record
Overall:
14-1
Points for:
635 total (42.33 per game)
Points against:
255 total (17 per game)

Monahans High School Football

Coach:
Weldon Nelms
Head coach since 2004
72-23 record
Overall:
14-0
Points for:
537 total (38.36 per game)
Points against:
187 total (13.36 per game)

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Class 3A Pre-Season Top 10
1. Tyler Chapel Hill
2. Wimberley
3. Henderson
4. Argyle
5. Celina
6. Carthage
7. Coldspring-Oakhurst
8. West Orange-Stark
9. Alvarado
10. Gilmer
http://lonestargridiron.com/2011/08/22/lsg%e2%80%99s-2011-pre-season-class-3a-top-50/

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Argyle had 7 starters returning on defense and 6 returning on offense.
Here is a pre-season article on the Argyle Eagles: http://lonestargridiron.com/2011/08/09/2011-3a-argyle-eagles-preview-%E2%80%93-texas-high-school-football/


Monahans had 8 starters returning on defense and 8 starters returning on offense.

http://lonestargridiron.com/2011/08/07/2011-3a-wimberley-texans-preview-%e2%80%93-texas-high-school-football/

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Argyle QB and TCU commit: Austin Aune highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePrUlAy-2Q

[ADKargyleTCU12]

That's all I've got. I'm looking forward to a great matchup of two equally matched teams on Friday. Go Eagles!

[lbjacj]

That's all I've got. I'm looking forward to a great matchup of two equally matched teams on Friday. Go Eagles!

Hey thanks for the info! Should be a classic! Don't see either team blowing out the other!

[BLACK ATTACK]

Hey thanks for the info! Should be a classic! Don't see either team blowing out the other!

+1

Argyle will have to play exponentially better than they did last night to have an opportunity to win.

[Sportshack]

Here are some highlights from Wimberley kids

Dennis Smith RB/LB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaTPvO3GOqI

Brennen Blakemore highlights from soph and junior years that do not really do his play this year justice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoL0ZRpz8eg

Brady Lambert QB Junior highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoIEqcTaSvY

Gives some idea except all are playing much better right now than in clips from last year. All that said...I was very impressed with the video of Austin Aune...what a great QB and scheme. Looks like Texans will have their hands full.

[wimbo_pro]

Here are the Massey Ratings for both teams in 3A/State:

Argyle:
Team Rank – 2/14
Schedule – 5/104
Offense – 4/21
Defense – 7/36
Power – 2/17

Wimberely:
Team Rank – 6/22
Schedule – 19/221
Offense – 11/76
Defense – 4/29
Power – 6/29

The prediction is a Argyle 34 – Wimberley 28 from this site http://www.highschoolsports.net/massey/matchup/Football/Varsity/Boys/2011/

Great stats, ADK. Good to see you on the board as well! Yeah, we are the underdogs, no doubt. I have been watching you guysa little bit (stats wise) all year. This is going to be a tough road for us. But our "ace in the hole" is our defense slowing you down. With the higher ranking, there is hope. Of course, the difference between us both in all the categories is so damned close that I'm not sure it means one has an advantage over the other in any one category, but taken in the macro, Argyle has the edge, no doubt.

[lbjacj]

Great stats, ADK. Good to see you on the board as well! Yeah, we are the underdogs, no doubt. I have been watching you guysa little bit (stats wise) all year. This is going to be a tough road for us. But our "ace in the hole" is our defense slowing you down. With the higher ranking, there is hope. Of course, the difference between us both in all the categories is so damned close that I'm not sure it means one has an advantage over the other in any one category, but taken in the macro, Argyle has the edge, no doubt.

Hey Wimbo. Your nephews team is looking good on ESPN!!!

[HSFB]

Wimberley tapped deep in to their emotional reserves to beat Coldspring and Argyle appeared to roll again with a much easier win. It will be interesting to see how our boys bounce back from such an emotional win.

[regaleagle]

From all I have read about the Wimberley Texans all year, they are the team most suited to match up well in this championship game against Argyle. They are defensive, well-coached, disciplined, balanced, have excellent skill players, and a quality qb to lead the offense. Congratulations on your win last nite, and a perfect record for the season to this point. The strength of schedules is not dissimilar, and the style of play for both teams should make for an interesting and medium to high scoring affair.

[Sportshack]

I found this video of Argyle v Gilmer quarter-final game. It is the entire game. Argyle put on a very impressive display. The Eagles probably have an advantage in that they have played some teams in playoffs that throw the ball well and Wimberley has not. Wimberley certainly has not had to defend such a passing team this year with the possible exception of Dripping Springs early on. Boerne was also a passing team and easily defended but there schemes left something to be desired. Argyle did not really run the ball that much against Gilmer and did not seemingly have much success until late in game. However, they were relentless in passing game and it does not appear that it will be easy to get pressure on QB. The Texans front 7 has been pretty good however. They are a fast athletic unit but will again be undersized in matchup. I think that the Texans have a bit better skills players overall than Gilmer (from what one can tell on one game film). However, that #8 from Gilmer was a special player. The Texans will need to click on offense this game. The Argyle offense appears to be the biggest challenge of the year for this Texans team.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TcUTMx6h4o

[lbjacj]

From all I have read about the Wimberley Texans all year, they are the team most suited to match up well in this championship game against Argyle. They are defensive, well-coached, disciplined, balanced, have excellent skill players, and a quality qb to lead the offense. Congratulations on your win last nite, and a perfect record for the season to this point. The strength of schedules is not dissimilar, and the style of play for both teams should make for an interesting and medium to high scoring affair.

I just can't see a high scoring game. Defense is playing great now and I expect a score similar to the Chill/Alverado and our game last night.

[fire_it_up]

Good luck Wimberly! It will make us feel better to know we were knocked out off playoffs by the state champions! Go Region IV!

[wimbo_pro]

Hey Wimbo. Your nephews team is looking good on ESPN!!!

I was watching!!!

[lbjacj]

I was watching!!!

Ya'll got some great genes! Very talented family!

I hope the Bearcats win it all!

[regaleagle]

You could be right, but the facts bear out that our offense is very hard to keep under 30 pts. And that includes many good defensive teams we have faced in these playoffs. It would be in Wimberley's favor to make this a defensive and low-scoring game, but stopping our offense is just not going to be easy. We are not one-dimensional, and like Wimberley, will adjust to what the defense gives us offensively. We can pass, or run, depending on how the opposing defense sets up. Our numbers are higher on the passing side, but that is to be expected with a throwing qb like Aune. And then there are points that can be scored on special teams and the big play. It would surprise me if this game is kept under 55 pts. total.

[BLACK ATTACK]

I was watching!!!

I have a family member on Sam Houston as well.

Go Kats!

[firstdown]

Anyone know who's the home team?

[bbfan2010]

This game is on TV correct????

[lbjacj]

This game is on TV correct????

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/12/05/11/TV-webcast-coverage-set-for-UIL-Texas-Hi/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=619828&feedID=3601

[Los Owls]

This game is on TV correct????
Fox southwest..Direct tv 676....Friday 4pm....Should be a great game....:1popcorn:

[lbjacj]

Fox southwest..Direct tv 676....Friday 4pm....Should be a great game....:1popcorn:

You will be pulling for Argyle of course?:)

[mike_angler]

Anyone know who's the home team?

Wimberley will be the home team. Going to be a great game!

[pirate4state]

Wimberley will be the home team. Going to be a great game!

Awesome. Refugio is the home team too. I won't have to move from my seat ;)

[wimbo_pro]

Awesome. Refugio is the home team too. I won't have to move from my seat ;)

So P4S, did you make this game as well? Thoughts?

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Hey thanks for the info! Should be a classic! Don't see either team blowing out the other!

Definitely not! Should be a great game!

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Great stats, ADK. Good to see you on the board as well! Yeah, we are the underdogs, no doubt. I have been watching you guysa little bit (stats wise) all year. This is going to be a tough road for us. But our "ace in the hole" is our defense slowing you down. With the higher ranking, there is hope. Of course, the difference between us both in all the categories is so damned close that I'm not sure it means one has an advantage over the other in any one category, but taken in the macro, Argyle has the edge, no doubt.

Thanks wimbo. I'm not really sure that there is an underdog though. Should be a great game. If Argyle plays the same way that we did last night, we WILL lose. Wayyyy too many penalties and turnovers. I'm glad we got that game out of our system for the best team we've played all year. Looking forward to seeing you guys. Maybe the team that has the ball last will win?

[pirate4state]

So P4S, did you make this game as well? Thoughts?

Nope, I stayed home this weekend in anticipation of next weekend. ;) Sounds like I missed a heck of a game!

[ADKargyleTCU12]

From all I have read about the Wimberley Texans all year, they are the team most suited to match up well in this championship game against Argyle. They are defensive, well-coached, disciplined, balanced, have excellent skill players, and a quality qb to lead the offense. Congratulations on your win last nite, and a perfect record for the season to this point. The strength of schedules is not dissimilar, and the style of play for both teams should make for an interesting and medium to high scoring affair.

Sounds like the teams are mirror images!

[ADKargyleTCU12]

I found this video of Argyle v Gilmer quarter-final game. It is the entire game. Argyle put on a very impressive display. The Eagles probably have an advantage in that they have played some teams in playoffs that throw the ball well and Wimberley has not. Wimberley certainly has not had to defend such a passing team this year with the possible exception of Dripping Springs early on. Boerne was also a passing team and easily defended but there schemes left something to be desired. Argyle did not really run the ball that much against Gilmer and did not seemingly have much success until late in game. However, they were relentless in passing game and it does not appear that it will be easy to get pressure on QB. The Texans front 7 has been pretty good however. They are a fast athletic unit but will again be undersized in matchup. I think that the Texans have a bit better skills players overall than Gilmer (from what one can tell on one game film). However, that #8 from Gilmer was a special player. The Texans will need to click on offense this game. The Argyle offense appears to be the biggest challenge of the year for this Texans team.


Great analysis! In regards to getting pressure on Austin Aune: He has only been sacked once all year! Gilmer had the sack when a snap was over Aune's head. Getting pressure on him is the key for Wimberley's D. If you only rush 6, he'll take off for 15 yards every play. If you rush 7 or 8, he'll hit Ian Sadler (sophomore #5) for a 10 yard curl rout or Chadd Bossow (senior #3) over the middle for a 10 yard slant. Not sure what you guys have on the D line but getting through our LT, Trey Keenan will be tough so you'll probably have to go through the other side. Trey is 6-6 280 and committed to Texas Tech.

Sorry for the rant! In short, the key is pressuring Aune if you can get there.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

I have a family member on Sam Houston as well.

Go Kats!

GO Kats for sure! Argyle graduate, Tyler Sweatt plays for them!

[wimbo_pro]

Sounds like the teams are mirror images!

In a way, yes. Stat-wise, from the last bunch of numbers I looked at, Argyle is a bit stronger on offense, and Wimberley is a bit stronger on defense. So these two things should balance out, all things being equal. Argyle has played a bit of a tougher schedule (statistically), atleast in the stats before this last weeks numbers are rolled in. It's so close between the two, one can pick and choose which stat to hang their hat on, and its hard to argue against it....but then again, its hard to justify it when other stats are brought up. So...

Turnovers and penalties. It's going to be that simple, I think. Of course, later in the week I will waste a couple hours of my time with an in-depth analysis thats really worth nothing, but it sure makes me feel good doing it, so there...I said it. :twitch: I love High School football in December!!!!!!

[wimbo_pro]

GO Kats for sure! Argyle graduate, Tyler Sweatt plays for them!

My nephew is #44 on the Kats.

[BLACK ATTACK]

My nephew is #44 on the Kats.

My son is #48

[wimbo_pro]

My son is #48

No kidding?? You must be proud!!!!

[Sportshack]

I noted that Argyle has beaten 9 teams with winning records this year and 2 others that made the playoffs and finished without winning record. Pretty impressive. I then looked at WHS and learned that they beat 10 teams with winning records and 1 other that made playoffs without winning record. Smithville game for Texans was canceled and they were also a playoff team. Argyle beating Commerce, Prosper, Carthage and Gilmer in playoff run is also impressive. Wimberley has beaten previously undefeated Gonzales, Devine, and Coldspring-Oakhurst.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

My son is #48

Awesome! Go Tyler!

[wimbo_pro]

Argyle beating Commerce, Prosper, Carthage and Gilmer in playoff run is also impressive. .

Yikes. Thats pretty impressive.

[regaleagle]

You mean this is only Saturday??? It's gonna be a looooong week til Friday gets here again. I'm sure Wimbo will have it all broken down to the nth degree by Tuesday. Of course, he will not divulge everything til Wed. or Thurs., pickiing up little tidbits along the way to further reinforce his positions,,,LOL. It makes for great pregame armchairing just to see how correctly one can predict off of statistical data and analysis of other factors. I look forward to your results, Wimbo.

[Los Owls]

You will be pulling for Argyle of course?:)
The only thing i like about the Texans is their solid Navy uniforms.. So now, they are representing Region 4...So,i hope the Texans win it all and i hope they wear all solid navy..:eek:

[YTBulldogs]

The only thing i like about the Texans is their solid Navy uniforms.. So now, they are representing Region 4...So,i hope the Texans win it all and i hope they wear all solid navy..:eek:

Yikes, LO's kiss of death prediction. :p

[YTBulldogs]

I look forward to your results, Wimbo.

I'm looking forward to Wimbo's "State Party" gathering. Wahooooooo!!!!!:cheerl:::1popcorn:

Use his x-ray machine sales from Chicago to throw a big event.

[wimbo_pro]

You mean this is only Saturday??? It's gonna be a looooong week til Friday gets here again. I'm sure Wimbo will have it all broken down to the nth degree by Tuesday. Of course, he will not divulge everything til Wed. or Thurs., pickiing up little tidbits along the way to further reinforce his positions,,,LOL. It makes for great pregame armchairing just to see how correctly one can predict off of statistical data and analysis of other factors. I look forward to your results, Wimbo.

Yes Regal...I will have it all broken down...a scientifically and statistically sound analysis that not only will be accurate and factual, but will (without a doubt) support my opinion that Wimberely will win this game, hands down. Not sure just how I'm going to make the numbers look like they support my opinion just yet...but I have a few days still. I'll think of something. Anyone have an astrological chart handy?

[wimbo_pro]

I'm looking forward to Wimbo's "State Party" gathering. Wahooooooo!!!!!:cheerl:::1popcorn:

Use his x-ray machine sales from Chicago to throw a big event.

LOL...am using those commissions to get the hotel in Arlington!!

[wimbo_pro]

The only thing i like about the Texans is their solid Navy uniforms.. So now, they are representing Region 4...So,i hope the Texans win it all and i hope they wear all solid navy..:eek:

NO!!!

You can NOT support Wimberley in this game. YOU MAY NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

YOU WILL NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

GO AWAY.

[YTBulldogs]

NO!!!

You can NOT support Wimberley in this game. YOU MAY NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

YOU WILL NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

GO AWAY.

Man, what poor timing LO's has. :ack!:

[YTBulldogs]

LOL...am using those commissions to get the hotel in Arlington!!

I hear ya. Well, my offer at Humperdinks or Twin Peaks stand to ya. You catching other state games on other days, or just the day ya'll play?

[mike_angler]

You could be right, but the facts bear out that our offense is very hard to keep under 30 pts. And that includes many good defensive teams we have faced in these playoffs. It would be in Wimberley's favor to make this a defensive and low-scoring game, but stopping our offense is just not going to be easy. We are not one-dimensional, and like Wimberley, will adjust to what the defense gives us offensively. We can pass, or run, depending on how the opposing defense sets up. Our numbers are higher on the passing side, but that is to be expected with a throwing qb like Aune. And then there are points that can be scored on special teams and the big play. It would surprise me if this game is kept under 55 pts. total.

I seem to recall a certain Bulldog team from East Texas holding Argyle to 28 until the 2nd overtime. That's with them having 9 sophomores starting on their team. So I definitely think it is not only possible but fairly likely that this could be another very good defensive game by the Texans. Although this also could turn into a 49 - 45 type of game too. I guess we'll all find out on Friday.

[mike_angler]

NO!!!

You can NOT support Wimberley in this game. YOU MAY NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

YOU WILL NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

GO AWAY.

I think Los Owls is using reverse psychology since nothing else has worked for him so far. I'm sure that we have room for everyone on the bandwagon except for him. Lol. I know I have my spot saved already.

[wimbo_pro]

I think Los Owls is using reverse psychology since nothing else has worked for him so far. I'm sure that we have room for everyone on the bandwagon except for him. Lol. I know I have my spot saved already.

We call him LosT Owls!! LOLOL

Actually, he is ok in my book, just don't want him to switch sides now, after going against us in EVERY game this play off series, save Taylor. And THAT was the one we struggled with!!!

You going to be at Milagro's on Monday?

[garciap77]

Congrats Wimberley!!!!

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/wimberley300x125_914688g.jpg

Now go get state!!!

[lbjacj]

This weeks games are not figured in these rankings yet...

http://www.adjustedstats.com/ratings-stats/txhsfbratings.php?year=2011&class=3A

Argyle has the advantage in the kicking game...
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/ZvjJGiNPEeG-rAAmVebEWg/argyle-kicker-sets-national-field-goal-record.htm

[wimbo_pro]

This weeks games are not figured in these rankings yet...

http://www.adjustedstats.com/ratings-stats/txhsfbratings.php?year=2011&class=3A

Argyle has the advantage in the kicking game...
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/ZvjJGiNPEeG-rAAmVebEWg/argyle-kicker-sets-national-field-goal-record.htm

Yeah, I saw that. Not good when you are facing him in a tight game. Thats why we cannot allow it to be a tight game come the last 5 mins.

[Tejastrue]

Here are the Massey Ratings for both teams in 3A/State:

Argyle:
Team Rank – 2/14
Schedule – 5/104
Offense – 4/21
Defense – 7/36
Power – 2/17

Wimberely:
Team Rank – 6/22
Schedule – 19/221
Offense – 11/76
Defense – 4/29
Power – 6/29

The prediction is a Argyle 34 – Wimberley 28 from this site http://www.highschoolsports.net/massey/matchup/Football/Varsity/Boys/2011/

Let's see if anything changes come Monday night or Tuesday morning after they update the latest games. Could have a wider margin of victory predicted or just might close the gap a bit. They picked us to lose to Coldspring but only by the slimmest of margins. These things are great for the hype buildup. :clap:

[Los Owls]

NO!!!

You can NOT support Wimberley in this game. YOU MAY NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

YOU WILL NOT SUPPORT WIMBERLEY IN THIS GAME.

GO AWAY.

Man,Wimbo wAcKoS,hope you guys don't CHOKE For all Region 4...Please don't mess it up..:1popcorn:

[LionFan72]

It could get worse for Wimberley, Gsquared will be sitting on the home side I'm sure, with the Goo goo curse!! Tough to overcome!!!!!!!!!

Good luck to both teams, very deserving of the big dance, Congrats on overcoming great teams to achieve your goals! Now put on a show on the GRAND Stage that will make us all proud to be fans.

[YTBulldogs]

LOL...am using those commissions to get the hotel in Arlington!!

Dern, plan on buying the entire hotel are ya WP? Money bags.

[wimbo_pro]

It could get worse for Wimberley, Gsquared will be sitting on the home side I'm sure, with the Goo goo curse!! Tough to overcome!!!!!!!!!

Good luck to both teams, very deserving of the big dance, Congrats on overcoming great teams to achieve your goals! Now put on a show on the GRAND Stage that will make us all proud to be fans.

Thanks LionsFan...we are walking on clouds right now. Being only our 2nd time to go to the Big Dance, I am still learning how to get the most enjoyment out of it. The first time, its was just a blur and a frenzy it seemed (maybe because I had family involved at the time too, I dunno). This time...it just seems so much better, less frantic, smoother, more appreciation for what our boys have done and what joy they have brought to the town as a whole. It's palpitable, its a warm glow that is hanging over the town. This is really what its all about...the beauty of 3A football and the affect it has on the entire town...that makes me love this game!

Of course I want to win this game...and the boys 1,000 times more I am sure....but you know, its about the ride too, and its been a fantastic ride. Win or lose, the Wimberley Texans have risen to the "top of the crop" of 3A football programs over the last 10 years or so. And for that, I am grateful!!! Thank you Coach Nelms!

[wimbo_pro]

Game Thought of the Day:

Wimberley had 12.8 points per game scored against them in the regular season. In the play offs, this increased to 14.2 points per game.
Argyle had 11.1 points per game scored against them in the regular season. In the play offs, this has more than doubled, up to 22.8 points per game.

Is this because the competition Argyle faced in the play offs was far stronger than our competition in the play offs? It is definitely true that, on the whole, Argyle's road was tougher than Wimberley's. But Wimberley's defense has gotten FAR better in the play offs. Has Argyle's?

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Game Thought of the Day:

Wimberley had 12.8 points per game scored against them in the regular season. In the play offs, this increased to 14.2 points per game.
Argyle had 11.1 points per game scored against them in the regular season. In the play offs, this has more than doubled, up to 22.8 points per game.

Is this because the competition Argyle faced in the play offs was far stronger than our competition in the play offs? It is definitely true that, on the whole, Argyle's road was tougher than Wimberley's. But Wimberley's defense has gotten FAR better in the play offs. Has Argyle's?

We have had to beat Prosper, Carthage, and Gilmer.

[Bullaholic]

Game Thought of the Day:

Wimberley had 12.8 points per game scored against them in the regular season. In the play offs, this increased to 14.2 points per game.
Argyle had 11.1 points per game scored against them in the regular season. In the play offs, this has more than doubled, up to 22.8 points per game.

Is this because the competition Argyle faced in the play offs was far stronger than our competition in the play offs? It is definitely true that, on the whole, Argyle's road was tougher than Wimberley's. But Wimberley's defense has gotten FAR better in the play offs. Has Argyle's?

Wimbo--I don't know anything about the Texans other than the posts about how well they have been playing every game on here. That says a lot about how good the Texans are, regardless of the level of competition to this point. No team gets to SC game in Texas without being the real deal.


On the other hand, I am a litle more familiar with Argyle. As I stated in earlier posts, the Eagles have been "flirting" with an SC title appearance over the last couple of seasons, but just ran in to some really salty teams relatively early in the playoffs. Now they seem to be able to overcome any obstacle because they are truly balanced on both sides of the ball. They have an outstanding QB and receivers on offense, and a really fast sure-tackling defense, plus size in the trenches. Couple all this ability with the confidence and deep playoff experience they have gained, the Eagles make a formidible force to beat.


I think this one will be much like the DI SC game--it's going to come down to which team makes what mistakes when in the game that will decide the outcome. Both have the tools to beat the other if either team doesn't execute well like they have all season.

[Sportshack]

Man,Wimbo wAcKoS,hope you guys don't CHOKE For all Region 4...Please don't mess it up..:1popcorn:



That will WORK!!!!!!! Thanks Lost Owls...we were beginning to get worried you dern LUCKY CHARM!!!! :)

[wimbo_pro]

We have had to beat Prosper, Carthage, and Gilmer.

I know, thats why I said your road has been tougher. But out of those three you listed, only Carthage had a defense rated higher than ours, according to the link below (their offense ranks lower than ours though). And then, Carthage took you to double OT. Add to it, our Defense has risen to the top in the last 5 games (last 4 anyways), which you must do in the play offs...get better each game. I bet if you had ratings for just the play offs, our defense would rank even higher.

So, my question is still a valid one, I think. Has Argyle's defense gotten better as well, or has it remained about the same as the regular season, which would explain why the points per game doubled?

[Sportshack]

Wimbo--I don't know anything about the Texans other than the posts about how well they have been playing every game on here. That says a lot about how good the Texans are, regardless of the level of competition to this point. No team gets to SC game in Texas without being the real deal.


On the other hand, I am a litle more familiar with Argyle. As I stated in earlier posts, the Eagles have been "flirting" with an SC title appearance over the last couple of seasons, but just ran in to some really salty teams relatively early in the playoffs. Now they seem to be able to overcome any obstacle because they are truly balanced on both sides of the ball. They have an outstanding QB and receivers on offense, and a really fast sure-tackling defense, plus size in the trenches. Couple all this ability with the confidence and deep playoff experience they have gained, the Eagles make a formidible force to beat.


I think this one will be much like the DI SC game--it's going to come down to which team makes what mistakes when in the game that will decide the outcome. Both have the tools to beat the other if either team doesn't execute well like they have all season.

Argyle is impressive in every category and has played some tough competition. All the ingredients are there are they would not be going to Dallas. Wimberley has faced down the touted best defense in Region IV in Gonzales, the touted best defense in Region III and and possibly all of 3A in Coldspring, and in recent weeks two of the best running backs/attacks in 3A in Joseph Saddler and Sherman Gilbert. All of these teams were undefeated entering the game. Wimberley has won 28 out of its last 29 games and did so with Dennis Smith missing 15 of those games and Brennen Blakemore missing 11 1/2 of those games. Those kids are impact players but the team found away to overcome. Wimberley will now get a chance to see if they can slow down a prolific passing offense just a bit. I realize that Argyle can run the ball as well.

[YTBulldogs]

Plain and simple---this will be a classic, fan in awe, did you see that, best all time, don't blink, possible several over times type game.

We, fan's of high school football, not a dog in the fight, should be so lucky to see this one first hand.

Congrats to both schools.

[wimbo_pro]

Wimbo--I don't know anything about the Texans other than the posts about how well they have been playing every game on here. That says a lot about how good the Texans are, regardless of the level of competition to this point. No team gets to SC game in Texas without being the real deal.


On the other hand, I am a litle more familiar with Argyle. As I stated in earlier posts, the Eagles have been "flirting" with an SC title appearance over the last couple of seasons, but just ran in to some really salty teams relatively early in the playoffs. Now they seem to be able to overcome any obstacle because they are truly balanced on both sides of the ball. They have an outstanding QB and receivers on offense, and a really fast sure-tackling defense, plus size in the trenches. Couple all this ability with the confidence and deep playoff experience they have gained, the Eagles make a formidible force to beat.


I think this one will be much like the DI SC game--it's going to come down to which team makes what mistakes when in the game that will decide the outcome. Both have the tools to beat the other if either team doesn't execute well like they have all season.

Good input, Bull. I read somewhere where one fan from Argyle wrote if they play against us like they did against Monahans, they would lose. I feel the same way in regards to our offense performance for 2 quarters last week against Coldspring. If we have a lapse of concentration and execution like we did against Coldspring in Q2 and Q3, we could be in deep trouble. We need last weeks Q1 and Q4 performance the ENTIRE game, not just half of it.

Improve every game. It's that simple. If we improve this coming week on both sides of the ball, we can win this game.

[regaleagle]

A stat you may not be aware of. Argyle has a record of 39-3 in the last 3 seasons. Went 12-1 in 2009, upset loss to Pleasant Grove. Went 13-1 last season, losing to eventual state champ Carthage. And of course this year we lost to Prosper in week 4, and now are 14-1. With Austin Aune at the helm, we are 34-3. I believe this last number is correct. Yes, that's right. If we win it, he will go out with a record of 35-3 as a starter. We are 3-1 against the District of Doom teams, probably the best record against those teams of any other high school in the state in the last 3-4 years. Argyle has elevated its stature like Wimberley as well. Had we not been yoked with Region 2, we may have reached a final before now. We have won our District 4 yrs. in a row, I believe. Rodgers is now in his 9th season at Argyle, after coming over from Flower Mound Marcus with OC Coach Harp to start the program. Both were in involved in Marcus's state title and title runs in the mid and late 90's in 5A football. Our top 2 coaches have been there, done that at a high level. Our title run in 2005 in 2a was a loss to an undefeated Newton team, which we lost 28-20. That was in Coach Rodgers' 3rd year. A little history on the short existence of Argyle. And remember, we had Celina in our district in 2a, and they moved up to 3a when we did in 2006, and we had them again in our district, as well as Bridgeport when they won it, and Decatur the year they won it.

[regaleagle]

To summarize this past history, what it tells is that Arygle has been competing at a very high level with State Champion teams for the last 7 years. This has helped us to build our program to a high level very quickly. We now have so many boyz that compete in ALL the sports in grade school, and we develop them as they mature. There are a few good atheletes, but for the most part, the bulk of them are just well-coached from a young age. Our enrollment is 660, and will be in that range probably next realignment. We are a town of maybe 3,000-3500 population max. A great majority of all the students participate in athletics, band, UIL, cheerleading,,,all the extracurricular actiivities. For a school our size, we have competed in all athletics extraordinarily well. We are a perennial basketball power, volleyball power, track and cross country contender, and now our baseball program has risen. Our band has won state 4 times, and they compete only every other year. We have won UIL I don't know how many times. The point is, Arygle will compete at the highest level with the best, and has been successful doing so. We will come prepared for Wimberley in this game, and expect to win. That's just our record and our nature. I hope I have given you some insight now into Arygle and what Wimberley is up against. It's just not this particular team, it's a winning mindset. We want to win it all, and we want it badly. I am aware of Wimberley's success, but wanted to tell all here of Argyle's so the readers have more backround on our school and tradition.

[wimbo_pro]

A stat you may not be aware of. Argyle has a record of 39-3 in the last 3 seasons. Went 12-1 in 2009, upset loss to Pleasant Grove. Went 13-1 last season, losing to eventual state champ Carthage. And of course this year we lost to Prosper in week 4, and now are 14-1. With Austin Aune at the helm, we are 34-3. I believe this last number is correct. Yes, that's right. If we win it, he will go out with a record of 35-3 as a starter. We are 3-1 against the District of Doom teams, probably the best record against those teams of any other high school in the state in the last 3-4 years. Argyle has elevated its stature like Wimberley as well. Had we not been yoked with Region 2, we may have reached a final before now. We have won our District 4 yrs. in a row, I believe. Rodgers is now in his 9th season at Argyle, after coming over from Flower Mound Marcus with OC Coach Harp to start the program. Both were in involved in Marcus's state title and title runs in the mid and late 90's in 5A football. Our top 2 coaches have been there, done that at a high level. Our title run in 2005 in 2a was a loss to an undefeated Newton team, which we lost 28-20. That was in Coach Rodgers' 3rd year. A little history on the short existence of Argyle. And remember, we had Celina in our district in 2a, and they moved up to 3a when we did in 2006, and we had them again in our district, as well as Bridgeport when they won it, and Decatur the year they won it.

Thats some tough opponents, for sure. You're right, I think, in the assumption if you had been in R1, you would of been in some more SC games. Tough Region, tough road to the play offs. There is no doubt Argyle has earned the right to be here!

[wimbo_pro]

To summarize this past history, what it tells is that Arygle has been competing at a very high level with State Champion teams for the last 7 years. This has helped us to build our program to a high level very quickly. We now have so many boyz that compete in ALL the sports in grade school, and we develop them as they mature. There are a few good atheletes, but for the most part, the bulk of them are just well-coached from a young age. Our enrollment is 660, and will be in that range probably next realignment. We are a town of maybe 3,000-3500 population max. A great majority of all the students participate in athletics, band, UIL, cheerleading,,,all the extracurricular actiivities. For a school our size, we have competed in all athletics extraordinarily well. We are a perennial basketball power, volleyball power, track and cross country contender, and now our baseball program has risen. Our band has won state 4 times, and they compete only every other year. We have won UIL I don't know how many times. The point is, Arygle will compete at the highest level with the best, and has been successful doing so. We will come prepared for Wimberley in this game, and expect to win. That's just our record and our nature. I hope I have given you some insight now into Arygle and what Wimberley is up against. It's just not this particular team, it's a winning mindset. We want to win it all, and we want it badly. I am aware of Wimberley's success, but wanted to tell all here of Argyle's so the readers have more backround on our school and tradition.

And all of that is a great story of "small town Texas". We are very similar (not so much in basketball) but we have 6 state championships in Volley ball over the last 11-12 years. We have other similar success stories as well in many endeavors. We pride ourselves on fair play, respect for the other teams/towns, and an unending hunger to win. We play very hard, and your boys will know what I mean come Friday. Our team is coached extremely well, as our adjustments throughout the game are our hallmark of success. If Plan A doesnt work, Plan B,C and D are put into play. We are blessed with the weapons to be able to do so.

I completely understand your mindset, and would expect nothing less from a quality opponent. We too expect to win. When we are hitting on all cylinders, watch out. I suspect we WILL be hitting on all cylinders come Friday.

[Manso/V8]

To summarize this past history, what it tells is that Arygle has been competing at a very high level with State Champion teams for the last 7 years. This has helped us to build our program to a high level very quickly. We now have so many boyz that compete in ALL the sports in grade school, and we develop them as they mature. There are a few good atheletes, but for the most part, the bulk of them are just well-coached from a young age. Our enrollment is 660, and will be in that range probably next realignment. We are a town of maybe 3,000-3500 population max. A great majority of all the students participate in athletics, band, UIL, cheerleading,,,all the extracurricular actiivities. For a school our size, we have competed in all athletics extraordinarily well. We are a perennial basketball power, volleyball power, track and cross country contender, and now our baseball program has risen. Our band has won state 4 times, and they compete only every other year. We have won UIL I don't know how many times. The point is, Arygle will compete at the highest level with the best, and has been successful doing so. We will come prepared for Wimberley in this game, and expect to win. That's just our record and our nature. I hope I have given you some insight now into Arygle and what Wimberley is up against. It's just not this particular team, it's a winning mindset. We want to win it all, and we want it badly. I am aware of Wimberley's success, but wanted to tell all here of Argyle's so the readers have more backround on our school and tradition.

Sounds like a great place. You answered a lot of the questions I was getting ready to ask. I saw on the web that the population about doubled from 1990 to 2010. Is it a rapidly growing surburban area with subdivisions and such, or does Argyle have more of a rural, small town atmosphere?

By the way, I checked the Wiki page for Argyle, and yall have a hater out there! Every school with a good athletic program gets the same criticism from a FEW in the community or outside the community. I know what is written is not accurate, it does make me smile thinking about the bitter "the stick in the mud" and their cyber criticism/practical joke and is a reminder that Wiki is not reliable.....nonetheless, you might want to have someone edit the Education and local notes section. Below is what it currently says at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyle,_Texas


Education and local notes
The Argyle Independent School District serves the city of Argyle and neighboring areas. The district operates one elementary school, a middle school, an intermediate school and a high school. The high school is a mockery of what the education system should be. There are more coaches than actual teachers and athletics is held in higher regards than academics. The schools funds are often misappropriated and spent in a wasteful manner while neglecting the academic shortcomings of the school. While statistically the school's performance is well rated, Argyle schools fail to adequately provide students proper preparation for further academic or professional pursuits. At Current enrollment in all schools is about 1,500.

[regaleagle]

Yep, that's an untrue and slanted opinion, allright. Most of the students, my son included, get some kind of scholarship help to enter college and most get a degree. I'm certain the number is very, very high compared with the median of the state, although I don't have the numbers at hand to back that statement up. The subdivisions are very limited in Argyle and will stay that way in the next 5 years. Most homes are required on a one acre minimum to build, thereby keeping the town and its population limited. The landmass available for expansion is also quite limited, so I see the town staying 3a for many, many years. This is the drawing card for Argyle, and the city officials have voted to keep it this way. There are restrictions in place to prevent developers from building here, and from businesses(national chains... convenience, restaurants, etc.) from getting permitted without complete approval of the city council and city government. Yes, it is full of oak trees, a very, very small amount of business, and mainly residential with a country feel. Only 8 miles south of Denton on 35W to Fort Worth. Our neighbors are Roanoke, which is next to Southlake(Carroll), Flower Mound, and Denton. It is a great place just on the skirtsof the sprawling Metroplex to live and raise a family.

[wimbo_pro]

Argyle's median income for a family is almost TWICE that of Wimberelys....$56,910 versus $94,309.

I know who's tailgating parties I'll be attending....

[firstdown]

Sounds like a great place. You answered a lot of the questions I was getting ready to ask. I saw on the web that the population about doubled from 1990 to 2010. Is it a rapidly growing surburban area with subdivisions and such, or does Argyle have more of a rural, small town atmosphere?

By the way, I checked the Wiki page for Argyle, and yall have a hater out there! Every school with a good athletic program gets the same criticism from a FEW in the community or outside the community. I know what is written is not accurate, it does make me smile thinking about the bitter "the stick in the mud" and their cyber criticism/practical joke and is a reminder that Wiki is not reliable.....nonetheless, you might want to have someone edit the Education and local notes section. Below is what it currently says at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyle,_Texas


Education and local notes
The Argyle Independent School District serves the city of Argyle and neighboring areas. The district operates one elementary school, a middle school, an intermediate school and a high school. The high school is a mockery of what the education system should be. There are more coaches than actual teachers and athletics is held in higher regards than academics. The schools funds are often misappropriated and spent in a wasteful manner while neglecting the academic shortcomings of the school. While statistically the school's performance is well rated, Argyle schools fail to adequately provide students proper preparation for further academic or professional pursuits. At Current enrollment in all schools is about 1,500.

Thanks, I fixed it. There are always a few haters aren't there.

[Aesculus gilmus]

We need to get a "pro-growth" city government installed in Argyle and get you fine folks up to 4A posthaste so you can remain in the same classification with your rival Prosper.

This median income talk got me curious about Gilmer's. Latest estimate on Wikipedia for a family is $39,688. Wimberley is Highland Park to us. Argyle is Upper East Side of Manhattan.

I have to go with Argyle in this one, even though I have a very good friend in Wimberley who tells me I am wrong in my prediction. She may be just a bit biased, though.

[regaleagle]

How did you know Prosper was our rival?? I didn't think that was widely known outside of the two schools, since we both are fairly "young" in our existence.

[Tejastrue]

It could get worse for Wimberley, Gsquared will be sitting on the home side I'm sure, with the Goo goo curse!! Tough to overcome!!!!!!!!!

Good luck to both teams, very deserving of the big dance, Congrats on overcoming great teams to achieve your goals! Now put on a show on the GRAND Stage that will make us all proud to be fans.

No worries here. Ric (the what the hell's going on with that hair) Renner of FSSW has picked Argyle to win. He trumps G2 and Lost Owls combined. LOL....

[regaleagle]

Actually, Argyle has had great results with G2 sitting on our side. And Renner picks Argyle all the time, so he's had a winning percentage there as well.

[Aesculus gilmus]

How did you know Prosper was our rival?? I didn't think that was widely known outside of the two schools, since we both are fairly "young" in our existence.

I'm sure you realize this, but your teams in that area receive a LOT of publicity from the DFW media whereas East Texas teams are generally ignored (I'm not complaining about that; it is what it is). And we watch local DFW media out here on cable and read stuff from DFW sites about you on the Internet.

Once a team beats Gilmer, I keep up with it. Once a team beats us twice, I begin to root for it to move up to 4A. lol

[Tejastrue]

Actually, Argyle has had great results with G2 sitting on our side. And Renner picks Argyle all the time, so he's had a winning percentage there as well.

Okay, I need Garciap77 to come up with an image of Renner and G2 sharing some nachos at an Argyle football game. Help me out here G. LOL....

I've never put much weight in superstitions and sports analyst's predictions. The times I've seen Renner pick one of our games, he has picked against us and we won. I just find it humorous.

[firstdown]

Once a team beats Gilmer, I keep up with it. Once a team beats us twice, I begin to root for it to move up to 4A. lol


:clap: Dude...thank you, you brought a smile to my face.

[Gone Fishing]

A stat you may not be aware of. Argyle has a record of 39-3 in the last 3 seasons. Went 12-1 in 2009, upset loss to Pleasant Grove. Went 13-1 last season, losing to eventual state champ Carthage. And of course this year we lost to Prosper in week 4, and now are 14-1. With Austin Aune at the helm, we are 34-3. I believe this last number is correct. Yes, that's right. If we win it, he will go out with a record of 35-3 as a starter. We are 3-1 against the District of Doom teams, probably the best record against those teams of any other high school in the state in the last 3-4 years. Argyle has elevated its stature like Wimberley as well. Had we not been yoked with Region 2, we may have reached a final before now. We have won our District 4 yrs. in a row, I believe. Rodgers is now in his 9th season at Argyle, after coming over from Flower Mound Marcus with OC Coach Harp to start the program. Both were in involved in Marcus's state title and title runs in the mid and late 90's in 5A football. Our top 2 coaches have been there, done that at a high level. Our title run in 2005 in 2a was a loss to an undefeated Newton team, which we lost 28-20. That was in Coach Rodgers' 3rd year. A little history on the short existence of Argyle. And remember, we had Celina in our district in 2a, and they moved up to 3a when we did in 2006, and we had them again in our district, as well as Bridgeport when they won it, and Decatur the year they won it.


To summarize this past history, what it tells is that Arygle has been competing at a very high level with State Champion teams for the last 7 years. This has helped us to build our program to a high level very quickly. We now have so many boyz that compete in ALL the sports in grade school, and we develop them as they mature. There are a few good atheletes, but for the most part, the bulk of them are just well-coached from a young age. Our enrollment is 660, and will be in that range probably next realignment. We are a town of maybe 3,000-3500 population max. A great majority of all the students participate in athletics, band, UIL, cheerleading,,,all the extracurricular actiivities. For a school our size, we have competed in all athletics extraordinarily well. We are a perennial basketball power, volleyball power, track and cross country contender, and now our baseball program has risen. Our band has won state 4 times, and they compete only every other year. We have won UIL I don't know how many times. The point is, Arygle will compete at the highest level with the best, and has been successful doing so. We will come prepared for Wimberley in this game, and expect to win. That's just our record and our nature. I hope I have given you some insight now into Arygle and what Wimberley is up against. It's just not this particular team, it's a winning mindset. We want to win it all, and we want it badly. I am aware of Wimberley's success, but wanted to tell all here of Argyle's so the readers have more backround on our school and tradition.

Well heck, we're toast. Again!

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Once a team beats Gilmer, I keep up with it. Once a team beats us twice, I begin to root for it to move up to 4A. lol

HAHAHAHA! This won't happen for at least 5 years. The town is still small - about 3,000 people and is not business-friendly.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Well heck, we're toast. Again!

C'mon man, he was just telling you about our town! All that matters come Friday is a group of about 100 football players on the field playing their hearts out for a state championship.

[YTBulldogs]

C'mon man, he was just telling you about our town! All that matters come Sunday is a group of about 100 football players on the field playing their hearts out for a state championship.

Sunday? I agree, better than a Cowboys game. :)

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Sunday? I agree, better than a Cowboys game. :)

Haha my bad - fixed

[Sportshack]

A stat you may not be aware of. Argyle has a record of 39-3 in the last 3 seasons. Went 12-1 in 2009, upset loss to Pleasant Grove. Went 13-1 last season, losing to eventual state champ Carthage. And of course this year we lost to Prosper in week 4, and now are 14-1. With Austin Aune at the helm, we are 34-3. I believe this last number is correct. Yes, that's right. If we win it, he will go out with a record of 35-3 as a starter. We are 3-1 against the District of Doom teams, probably the best record against those teams of any other high school in the state in the last 3-4 years. Argyle has elevated its stature like Wimberley as well. Had we not been yoked with Region 2, we may have reached a final before now. We have won our District 4 yrs. in a row, I believe. Rodgers is now in his 9th season at Argyle, after coming over from Flower Mound Marcus with OC Coach Harp to start the program. Both were in involved in Marcus's state title and title runs in the mid and late 90's in 5A football. Our top 2 coaches have been there, done that at a high level. Our title run in 2005 in 2a was a loss to an undefeated Newton team, which we lost 28-20. That was in Coach Rodgers' 3rd year. A little history on the short existence of Argyle. And remember, we had Celina in our district in 2a, and they moved up to 3a when we did in 2006, and we had them again in our district, as well as Bridgeport when they won it, and Decatur the year they won it.

Well...dadgum...that is extremely impressive!!! Every time I try to rationalize how Wimberley might be able to pull off upset...I find out some other fact about Argyle that conjures up more doubt. Everything I am hearing and that I have seen on Aune's highlights and on Gilmer game highlights just reinforces in my mind that the Texans have an uphill battle in this one. I am most concerned with the fact that Argyle has more experience playing defense against a passing team than Wimberley does. I guess all I can cling to in the rationalization category is the fact that in each of the last 3 seasons the Eagles have ultimately lost one game to a very good team. Whatever else the Texans are (and I am by no means saying the Texans will win), I know that they are a very good team! Also, I feel that their RB's, WR's, and LB's as a unit stack up with anyone in the state. Argyle might have the edge in the trenches and in secondary. Also I guess at Qb...but Brady Lambert is quite talented as well. Who knows maybe the ball will bounce right for the Texans and these kids will play the game of their careers. I am convinced they will have to do so to have a chance. The Texans also have to overcome a really hard fought emotional battle against Coldspring and get focused on the Argyle Eagles. I suspect some of the issues for Argyle in terms of their fans thinking their was some sloppiness to their Monahans game had to do with securing an emotional win the week before against a good Gilmer team and then playing an opponent everyone expected them to beat. Not unusual to see a team a little flat in that scenario. I would expect them to be very ready to go in this game. OY!!!! :ack!:

[lbjacj]

Sunday? I agree, better than a Cowboys game. :)

Maybe the Cowboys can learn a few things from watching our game!!

[regaleagle]

Since there are more posts regarding Wimberley on this site, and you seem to have more posters here, and more in regions 3 & 4, I have been able to learn quite a bit about your team. We know you have great talent at the skilled positions, and have a top-rated defense. We also know that the Texans are about as well-balanced a team as we have met...maybe the BEST balanced attack in 3A football for a perennial contender. We are also aware of Wimberley's penchant for being a well-disciplined ball club, which comes from quality coaching and a winning tradition to uphold. All these facts tell us that this will be a game in which Argyle will need to minimize mistakes and play intelligent football for 4 quarters. This is a tall order to ask out of 16-18 y.o. boys trying to get after it. This will give the Texans an edge, I believe. Your team has many positives, and the best one is they all work together to make you a better team. The positives are all complimentary of each other, not standing alone. A BIG, BIG intangible plus for a team to have.

[lbjacj]

Since there are more posts regarding Wimberley on this site, and you seem to have more posters here, and more in regions 3 & 4, I have been able to learn quite a bit about your team. We know you have great talent at the skilled positions, and have a top-rated defense. We also know that the Texans are about as well-balanced a team as we have met...maybe the BEST balanced attack in 3A football for a perennial contender. We are also aware of Wimberley's penchant for being a well-disciplined ball club, which comes from quality coaching and a winning tradition to uphold. All these facts tell us that this will be a game in which Argyle will need to minimize mistakes and play intelligent football for 4 quarters. This is a tall order to ask out of 16-18 y.o. boys trying to get after it. This will give the Texans an edge, I believe. Your team has many positives, and the best one is they all work together to make you a better team. The positives are all complimentary of each other, not standing alone. A BIG, BIG intangible plus for a team to have.


The following is from the Texan/Trojan thread...

Originally Posted by chs96

WT is a great team. Trust me I know!! I'm just a stats guy and like to compare stats. But this deep in the playoffs stats means nothing. It's heart and determination at this point. I think it will be a hard fought battle and the W can go anyway. I hope it goes our way but if not it will go to a very deserving team. Both teams have a big obstacle to cross come Friday .... Each Other. With that said. I pray for a injury free game and may it all be left on the field.
I'm not a Homer that will say my team is the greatest because in the end it's 22 highschool kids on the field at one time.



I think whoever wins Friday will be your state champs!

I think this still holds true!:)

[wimbo_pro]

Since there are more posts regarding Wimberley on this site, and you seem to have more posters here, and more in regions 3 & 4, I have been able to learn quite a bit about your team. We know you have great talent at the skilled positions, and have a top-rated defense. We also know that the Texans are about as well-balanced a team as we have met...maybe the BEST balanced attack in 3A football for a perennial contender. We are also aware of Wimberley's penchant for being a well-disciplined ball club, which comes from quality coaching and a winning tradition to uphold. All these facts tell us that this will be a game in which Argyle will need to minimize mistakes and play intelligent football for 4 quarters. This is a tall order to ask out of 16-18 y.o. boys trying to get after it. This will give the Texans an edge, I believe. Your team has many positives, and the best one is they all work together to make you a better team. The positives are all complimentary of each other, not standing alone. A BIG, BIG intangible plus for a team to have.

Dammit Regal....how am I NOW supposed to tell you how we are going to kick your fat ass all over the field after THAT post? Play fair, you jerk!!!

[HSFB]

To summarize this past history, what it tells is that Arygle has been competing at a very high level with State Champion teams for the last 7 years. This has helped us to build our program to a high level very quickly. We now have so many boyz that compete in ALL the sports in grade school, and we develop them as they mature. There are a few good atheletes, but for the most part, the bulk of them are just well-coached from a young age. Our enrollment is 660, and will be in that range probably next realignment. We are a town of maybe 3,000-3500 population max. A great majority of all the students participate in athletics, band, UIL, cheerleading,,,all the extracurricular actiivities. For a school our size, we have competed in all athletics extraordinarily well. We are a perennial basketball power, volleyball power, track and cross country contender, and now our baseball program has risen. Our band has won state 4 times, and they compete only every other year. We have won UIL I don't know how many times. The point is, Arygle will compete at the highest level with the best, and has been successful doing so. We will come prepared for Wimberley in this game, and expect to win. That's just our record and our nature. I hope I have given you some insight now into Arygle and what Wimberley is up against. It's just not this particular team, it's a winning mindset. We want to win it all, and we want it badly. I am aware of Wimberley's success, but wanted to tell all here of Argyle's so the readers have more backround on our school and tradition.


Well heck, we're toast. Again!

Yup, once again we are done. Time to nudge ole Dandy Don to loosen his cords with another shot of jack.

Not only are they incredible at everything but it is just in their “nature” and “mindset”……wow, now that is some very deep chit. Factor in that they “want it badly” and “expect to win”…..double whammy. I mean, once again, how will our slow plodding hill country boys compete with that??? Well it has been a fun ride. I mean “nature”, damn, I thought that we may just be able to compete until I read that.

[regaleagle]

One thing is for sure. Each team has a 50/50 chance of winning it all come Friday. I'm not a rocket scientist, but I know that much math, hahaha!!

[ogg]

Its mid-December these boys have football practice this week. They’re good----real good.

[Tejastrue]

Since there are more posts regarding Wimberley on this site, and you seem to have more posters here, and more in regions 3 & 4, I have been able to learn quite a bit about your team. We know you have great talent at the skilled positions, and have a top-rated defense. We also know that the Texans are about as well-balanced a team as we have met...maybe the BEST balanced attack in 3A football for a perennial contender. We are also aware of Wimberley's penchant for being a well-disciplined ball club, which comes from quality coaching and a winning tradition to uphold. All these facts tell us that this will be a game in which Argyle will need to minimize mistakes and play intelligent football for 4 quarters. This is a tall order to ask out of 16-18 y.o. boys trying to get after it. This will give the Texans an edge, I believe. Your team has many positives, and the best one is they all work together to make you a better team. The positives are all complimentary of each other, not standing alone. A BIG, BIG intangible plus for a team to have.


Dammit Regal....how am I NOW supposed to tell you how we are going to kick your fat ass all over the field after THAT post? Play fair, you jerk!!!


:spitlol::spitlol::spitlol:

[regaleagle]

Uh-Oh. If your secondary is as good at "picks" as your posters are, Argyle is in deep trouble. Maybe we can cross you up on some misdirection, or in this case, misinformation.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Well...dadgum...that is extremely impressive!!! Every time I try to rationalize how Wimberley might be able to pull off upset...I find out some other fact about Argyle that conjures up more doubt. Everything I am hearing and that I have seen on Aune's highlights and on Gilmer game highlights just reinforces in my mind that the Texans have an uphill battle in this one. I am most concerned with the fact that Argyle has more experience playing defense against a passing team than Wimberley does. I guess all I can cling to in the rationalization category is the fact that in each of the last 3 seasons the Eagles have ultimately lost one game to a very good team. Whatever else the Texans are (and I am by no means saying the Texans will win), I know that they are a very good team! Also, I feel that their RB's, WR's, and LB's as a unit stack up with anyone in the state. Argyle might have the edge in the trenches and in secondary. Also I guess at Qb...but Brady Lambert is quite talented as well. Who knows maybe the ball will bounce right for the Texans and these kids will play the game of their careers. I am convinced they will have to do so to have a chance. The Texans also have to overcome a really hard fought emotional battle against Coldspring and get focused on the Argyle Eagles. I suspect some of the issues for Argyle in terms of their fans thinking their was some sloppiness to their Monahans game had to do with securing an emotional win the week before against a good Gilmer team and then playing an opponent everyone expected them to beat. Not unusual to see a team a little flat in that scenario. I would expect them to be very ready to go in this game. OY!!!! :ack!:

This is a great post, my friend! I still do not think there is an underdog in this game. Wimberely had 8 starters returning on offense and defense so they have more experience playing as a unit. We also lost a starter for the season in the Gilmer game and an O-line starter went down this week with what appeared to be a serious knee injury to an already braced knee - don't know his status.

In regards to losing to one good team per year, we already did that this year to Prosper in week 4 and then paid them back in the play-offs so you better hope that we lose two games ;)

It really all comes down to if you guys can get pressure on Austin Aune. The TCU dual-threat commit has only been sacked once ALL SEASON and that was versus Gilmer when a snap went over his head. If you can't get to him, he will pick you apart. The reason he has so much time is because of our O-Line. #77 Trey Keenan is committed to Texas Tech and there are also 2 other College D1 commits on the line. The biggest threats receiving wise are #5 Ian Sadler (soph) and #3 Chadd Bossow (senior). He'll hit these guys all night long as well as a throw to #6 Adam Khan (senior) about 5 or so times.

[regaleagle]

ADK, should I tell them about our secret weapon, or just let it go unnoticed during the game???

[YTBulldogs]

This is a great post, my friend! I still do not think there is an underdog in this game. Wimberely had 8 starters returning on offense and defense so they have more experience playing as a unit. We also lost a starter for the season in the Gilmer game and an O-line starter went down this week with what appeared to be a serious knee injury to an already braced knee - don't know his status.

In regards to losing to one good team per year, we already did that this year to Prosper in week 4 and then paid them back in the play-offs so you better hope that we lose two games ;)

It really all comes down to if you guys can get pressure on Austin Aune. The TCU dual-threat commit has only been sacked once ALL SEASON and that was versus Gilmer when a snap went over his head. If you can't get to him, he will pick you apart. The reason he has so much time is because of our O-Line. #77 Trey Keenan is committed to Texas Tech and there are also 2 other College D1 commits on the line. The biggest threats receiving wise are #5 Ian Sadler (soph) and #3 Chadd Bossow (senior). He'll hit these guys all night long as well as a throw to #6 Adam Khan (senior) about 5 or so times.

Dern, just 1 sack given up all year? Amazing with those tough teams you've played. That O-line must be something else. Can't wait to see those guys in action.

[Tejastrue]

ADK, should I tell them about our secret weapon, or just let it go unnoticed during the game???

Don't tell me, your cheerleaders are all current Playboy bunnies. lol....wait, that would not go unnoticed.

[ogg]

This is a great post, my friend! I still do not think there is an underdog in this game. Wimberely had 8 starters returning on offense and defense so they have more experience playing as a unit. We also lost a starter for the season in the Gilmer game and an O-line starter went down this week with what appeared to be a serious knee injury to an already braced knee - don't know his status.

In regards to losing to one good team per year, we already did that this year to Prosper in week 4 and then paid them back in the play-offs so you better hope that we lose two games ;)

It really all comes down to if you guys can get pressure on Austin Aune. The TCU dual-threat commit has only been sacked once ALL SEASON and that was versus Gilmer when a snap went over his head. If you can't get to him, he will pick you apart. The reason he has so much time is because of our O-Line. #77 Trey Keenan is committed to Texas Tech and there are also 2 other College D1 commits on the line. The biggest threats receiving wise are #5 Ian Sadler (soph) and #3 Chadd Bossow (senior). He'll hit these guys all night long as well as a throw to #6 Adam Khan (senior) about 5 or so times.
From what you say, and that sounds impressive, I wonder why his completion percentage isn’t better. Maybe the stats are off.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/high-schools/argyle-news/

[regaleagle]

His completion % isn't high because he will just throw the ball away if he needs to. Look at his number of picks per attempt. And sometimes, he throws it too hard or too high for the recievers. All good for a qb throwing to college recievers.

[regaleagle]

In other words, he reads coverages pretty well.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

ADK, should I tell them about our secret weapon, or just let it go unnoticed during the game???

Let 'em know! They aren't playing on Friday!

[wimbo_pro]

We have 4 sophmores who are D1 prospects, but they are all coming out early. Our 6 Seniors who are commits to D1 programs didnt leave early cuz they wanted to stay with their wife's and kids.

[YTBulldogs]

we have 4 sophmores who are d1 prospects, but they are all coming out early.

lol.

[Sportshack]

This is a great post, my friend! I still do not think there is an underdog in this game. Wimberely had 8 starters returning on offense and defense so they have more experience playing as a unit. We also lost a starter for the season in the Gilmer game and an O-line starter went down this week with what appeared to be a serious knee injury to an already braced knee - don't know his status.

In regards to losing to one good team per year, we already did that this year to Prosper in week 4 and then paid them back in the play-offs so you better hope that we lose two games ;)

It really all comes down to if you guys can get pressure on Austin Aune. The TCU dual-threat commit has only been sacked once ALL SEASON and that was versus Gilmer when a snap went over his head. If you can't get to him, he will pick you apart. The reason he has so much time is because of our O-Line. #77 Trey Keenan is committed to Texas Tech and there are also 2 other College D1 commits on the line. The biggest threats receiving wise are #5 Ian Sadler (soph) and #3 Chadd Bossow (senior). He'll hit these guys all night long as well as a throw to #6 Adam Khan (senior) about 5 or so times.

Well like I said...I am clinging to whatever thread of hope I can! :) I somehow knew someone would point out the avenging of loss to Prosper. Maybe we will get lucky like Prosper did in regular season and not get picked apart even if we do not get to him. That is film that needs to be scrutinized! Again, just clinging...I realize that game was a long time ago and probably just an off night or the QB did not play or something like that as it is clear the issue was resolved the 2nd go round. Still a sliver of hope for the Texans.

It might really all come down to whether we can score more points. Especially with Argyle fielding 3 D1 commits on the O-line. That is not a good match up for our D-line. The Texans D-line is considered very athletic, which means they are undersized and very quick and agile, which often works quite well against a 3A offensive line. However, this sounds like a nightmare matchup for our guys due to the athleticism required to get a D-1 scholarship. Oh well...the Texans QB has generated a similar amount of passing yards this year as Aune...and we have 3 very good running backs...and we have good to great receivers so maybe if they are clicking we can keep pace.

[wimbo_pro]

Don't forget our defense...getting better each game.

[regaleagle]

That sounds very plausible to me Sportshack. Three very good running backs, plus Lambert, is trouble for our boyz indeed. And those screens yall run may just give our LB's and secondary fits. And that don't even count those misdirection and counter plays to get our boyz outta position. Heck, man, I don't know how in the world you can expect Argyle to keep track of all that offense coming at us in all directions. :eek::eek:

[regaleagle]

And that's exactly why we have a secret weapon that largely goes unnoticed by most coaches and fans. And the players too, for that matter. HAHaHa.

[Gone Fishing]

A stat you may not be aware of. Argyle has a record of 39-3 in the last 3 seasons. Went 12-1 in 2009, upset loss to Pleasant Grove. Went 13-1 last season, losing to eventual state champ Carthage. And of course this year we lost to Prosper in week 4, and now are 14-1. With Austin Aune at the helm, we are 34-3. I believe this last number is correct. Yes, that's right. If we win it, he will go out with a record of 35-3 as a starter. We are 3-1 against the District of Doom teams, probably the best record against those teams of any other high school in the state in the last 3-4 years. Argyle has elevated its stature like Wimberley as well. Had we not been yoked with Region 2, we may have reached a final before now. We have won our District 4 yrs. in a row, I believe. Rodgers is now in his 9th season at Argyle, after coming over from Flower Mound Marcus with OC Coach Harp to start the program. Both were in involved in Marcus's state title and title runs in the mid and late 90's in 5A football. Our top 2 coaches have been there, done that at a high level. Our title run in 2005 in 2a was a loss to an undefeated Newton team, which we lost 28-20. That was in Coach Rodgers' 3rd year. A little history on the short existence of Argyle. And remember, we had Celina in our district in 2a, and they moved up to 3a when we did in 2006, and we had them again in our district, as well as Bridgeport when they won it, and Decatur the year they won it.


To summarize this past history, what it tells is that Arygle has been competing at a very high level with State Champion teams for the last 7 years. This has helped us to build our program to a high level very quickly. We now have so many boyz that compete in ALL the sports in grade school, and we develop them as they mature. There are a few good atheletes, but for the most part, the bulk of them are just well-coached from a young age. Our enrollment is 660, and will be in that range probably next realignment. We are a town of maybe 3,000-3500 population max. A great majority of all the students participate in athletics, band, UIL, cheerleading,,,all the extracurricular actiivities. For a school our size, we have competed in all athletics extraordinarily well. We are a perennial basketball power, volleyball power, track and cross country contender, and now our baseball program has risen. Our band has won state 4 times, and they compete only every other year. We have won UIL I don't know how many times. The point is, Arygle will compete at the highest level with the best, and has been successful doing so. We will come prepared for Wimberley in this game, and expect to win. That's just our record and our nature. I hope I have given you some insight now into Arygle and what Wimberley is up against. It's just not this particular team, it's a winning mindset. We want to win it all, and we want it badly. I am aware of Wimberley's success, but wanted to tell all here of Argyle's so the readers have more backround on our school and tradition.


C'mon man, he was just telling you about our town! All that matters come Friday is a group of about 100 football players on the field playing their hearts out for a state championship.


Well like I said...I am clinging to whatever thread of hope I can! :) I somehow knew someone would point out the avenging of loss to Prosper. Maybe we will get lucky like Prosper did in regular season and not get picked apart even if we do not get to him. That is film that needs to be scrutinized! Again, just clinging...I realize that game was a long time ago and probably just an off night or the QB did not play or something like that as it is clear the issue was resolved the 2nd go round. Still a sliver of hope for the Texans.

It might really all come down to whether we can score more points. Especially with Argyle fielding 3 D1 commits on the O-line. That is not a good match up for our D-line. The Texans D-line is considered very athletic, which means they are undersized and very quick and agile, which often works quite well against a 3A offensive line. However, this sounds like a nightmare matchup for our guys due to the athleticism required to get a D-1 scholarship. Oh well...the Texans QB has generated a similar amount of passing yards this year as Aune...and we have 3 very good running backs...and we have good to great receivers so maybe if they are clicking we can keep pace.

Just keep clinging on Ss, just keep clinging on. We have some good players, dont we? Wonder how come we dont have 4 or 5 D1 commits? Maybe the scouts from the big schools dont venture into the hill country much. We're kind of hard to find.

[Sportshack]

That sounds very plausible to me Sportshack. Three very good running backs, plus Lambert, is trouble for our boyz indeed. And those screens yall run may just give our LB's and secondary fits. And that don't even count those misdirection and counter plays to get our boyz outta position. Heck, man, I don't know how in the world you can expect Argyle to keep track of all that offense coming at us in all directions. :eek::eek:

I seriously doubt it will be enough since you guys have experience playing such offenses and will likely be able to slow us down but like I said...just looking for some areas to talk about where we might be able to compete a little bit to keep the dream alive for a few more days. I mean the only hint of hope I can see is the last 2 Argyle opponents put up 34 and 35 points respectively. For all I know those teams had much better offenses than Wimberley. Therefore, we might have a slim chance if we can somehow keep pace.

[Sportshack]

Just keep clinging on Ss, just keep clinging on. We have some good players, dont we? Wonder how come we dont have 4 or 5 D1 commits? Maybe the scouts from the big schools dont venture into the hill country much. We're kind of hard to find.

Well...I would say we have 3 or maybe 4 guys that could play D1 ball and 2 of them on bigger teams. One has been offered and one is being talked to but nothing definitive. The other 2 are sort of borderline small D1 or D2 school IMO and I have heard there is some talk. However, none of these guys are playing on the O-line. I suspect that they might have another prospect on defense in that LB. He looks pretty darned good. I think we are outgunned a little except at RB and maybe receiver. However, I expect their receivers to be some of the best we have seen. And receivers get better with a great QB and they clearly have one. All that said...I will most definitely keep clinging...they have been beaten, they have been pushed to the brink, and they have given up points. I do not like the match up for us to be frank...but I am glad to see the team in the Championship Game and hope springs eternal.

[regaleagle]

Well if I was Coach Nelms, I know what I would do offensively to Argyle to move the chains. And I'm sure he's already seen it and has it in the playbook. Just get the Eagles to overcommit on their pass rush, and you should have success with dump passes to your backs. Then run a few delay draws to keep em honest. Then you can run a couple of bubble screens, and hit em with a quick run up the middle. That oughta take care of at least one good drive down the field, anyway.

[BearFan1]

Goodluck to the Texans! From LV

[Gone Fishing]

Well if I was Coach Nelms, I know what I would do offensively to Argyle to move the chains. And I'm sure he's already seen it and has it in the playbook. Just get the Eagles to overcommit on their pass rush, and you should have success with dump passes to your backs. Then run a few delay draws to keep em honest. Then you can run a couple of bubble screens, and hit em with a quick run up the middle. That oughta take care of at least one good drive down the field, anyway.

Thanks for some info on what to do, I'm glad we have a chance to get "at least one good drive down the field".

[buff4ever]

I am going with Wimberley in this one. I didn't think they would pull out last week and they did, this week I am taking them over Argyle.

It is Texans year again. Good luck.

[MajorApplehorn]

I seriously doubt it will be enough since you guys have experience playing such offenses and will likely be able to slow us down but like I said...just looking for some areas to talk about where we might be able to compete a little bit to keep the dream alive for a few more days. I mean the only hint of hope I can see is the last 2 Argyle opponents put up 34 and 35 points respectively. For all I know those teams had much better offenses than Wimberley. Therefore, we might have a slim chance if we can somehow keep pace.

Actually, Argyle's last opponent scored 14, 7 of which were a direct result from a poorly called personal foul. Monahans had 36 yds of offense in the 2nd half...

[ogg]

Thanks for some info on what to do, I'm glad we have a chance to get "at least one good drive down the field".

See, now that stops all thoughts of us getting shutout.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Well like I said...I am clinging to whatever thread of hope I can! :) I somehow knew someone would point out the avenging of loss to Prosper. Maybe we will get lucky like Prosper did in regular season and not get picked apart even if we do not get to him. That is film that needs to be scrutinized! Again, just clinging...I realize that game was a long time ago and probably just an off night or the QB did not play or something like that as it is clear the issue was resolved the 2nd go round. Still a sliver of hope for the Texans.

It might really all come down to whether we can score more points. Especially with Argyle fielding 3 D1 commits on the O-line. That is not a good match up for our D-line. The Texans D-line is considered very athletic, which means they are undersized and very quick and agile, which often works quite well against a 3A offensive line. However, this sounds like a nightmare matchup for our guys due to the athleticism required to get a D-1 scholarship. Oh well...the Texans QB has generated a similar amount of passing yards this year as Aune...and we have 3 very good running backs...and we have good to great receivers so maybe if they are clicking we can keep pace.

A number of our penalties from last game were because our O-Linemen were blocking a D-Lineman 20-30 yards down field, just driving him and driving him and the back judge sure didn't like that.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

I seriously doubt it will be enough since you guys have experience playing such offenses and will likely be able to slow us down but like I said...just looking for some areas to talk about where we might be able to compete a little bit to keep the dream alive for a few more days. I mean the only hint of hope I can see is the last 2 Argyle opponents put up 34 and 35 points respectively. For all I know those teams had much better offenses than Wimberley. Therefore, we might have a slim chance if we can somehow keep pace.

The last team put up 14 :eek:

[regaleagle]

Just wanted to let you guys know that we know that you will probablly try some of these plays on us, esp. the screens and draws. Of course, it's the players on the field from Argyle that will have to stop the Texans when this occurs. And Nelms will call these types of plays against the Eagles, most certainly.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Well...I would say we have 3 or maybe 4 guys that could play D1 ball and 2 of them on bigger teams. One has been offered and one is being talked to but nothing definitive. The other 2 are sort of borderline small D1 or D2 school IMO and I have heard there is some talk. However, none of these guys are playing on the O-line. I suspect that they might have another prospect on defense in that LB. He looks pretty darned good. I think we are outgunned a little except at RB and maybe receiver. However, I expect their receivers to be some of the best we have seen. And receivers get better with a great QB and they clearly have one. All that said...I will most definitely keep clinging...they have been beaten, they have been pushed to the brink, and they have given up points. I do not like the match up for us to be frank...but I am glad to see the team in the Championship Game and hope springs eternal.

The LB you are referring to is Carston Bossow. His brother plays TE (#3 Chadd Bossow). Carston was offered from Air Force last week and I'm not sure how that went. His brother, Chadd is third-team all state Tight End.

[regaleagle]

What I'm interested in seeing is what kind of mix of the offense the Texans will run against us. Looking at the stats, the Texans had more success in the passing game against Coldspring, but I suspect your scouting of them showed weaknesses in their secondary, and you exploited that. AND I am assuming they were very strong defensively against the run. I'm curious to see if you follow the same pattern against Argyle.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Just wanted to let you guys know that we know that you will probablly try some of these plays on us, esp. the screens and draws. Of course, it's the players on the field from Argyle that will have to stop the Texans when this occurs. And Nelms will call these types of plays against the Eagles, most certainly.

Screens, short passes, and outside runs seem to be the most effective on us. Some of our guys out there do not do a good job of tackling in space and you can shake them for another 10 yards until 2 other guys catch up and tackle the runner.

[wimbo_pro]

Just wanted to let you guys know that we know that you will probablly try some of these plays on us, esp. the screens and draws. Of course, it's the players on the field from Argyle that will have to stop the Texans when this occurs. And Nelms will call these types of plays against the Eagles, most certainly.

I would imagine so, since we have used it all year (and your coaches have certainly scouted us by now). But there is much more as well, just like your offense, we have options. We are very similar i think, we seem to be a bit more balanced in the stats between run and pass, but that doesnt mean a lot in this game. I am sure our coaches will find your "weak spot" and design an offense to exploit it, the same can be said about your coaching staff I am sure. It's not a stretch to say that this game will be won in the coaching booth.

[regaleagle]

Our #1 secondary guy, Matt Ryon, was out last week from a concussion that happened in the Gilmer game. I'm not certain of his health, but we should find out later in the week of his status to play this week. I know we did have some injuries that may keep out at least one of our starters on the O-line, and that could be a major setback for our running game against your D.

[Gone Fishing]

A number of our penalties from last game were because our O-Linemen were blocking a D-Lineman 20-30 yards down field, just driving him and driving him and the back judge sure didn't like that.

Wow, thats interesting. Did you accidentally hit the 0 key when typing the 2 and 3? I'm not sure our O-linemen can push the sled 30 yards!
Oh, and if I was the back judge watching a O-linemen "driving" a D-linemen 30 yards down field on a play, I would be so impressed I wouldnt be able to find my flag. I'm just saying.

[wimbo_pro]

Our #1 secondary guy, Matt Ryon, was out last week from a concussion that happened in the Gilmer game. I'm not certain of his health, but we should find out later in the week of his status to play this week. I know we did have some injuries that may keep out at least one of our starters on the O-line, and that could be a major setback for our running game against your D.

Hope everyone can play ...on both sides. I think we are ok healthwise, had a couple stumble off last week, but i think they are ok.

[regaleagle]

Typically, our coaching staff tries to avoid having our players play on both sides of the ball, but this week may be different. Coach Rodgers may have to opt for playing some of the better athletes on the team both ways, if necessary, due to injuries at that position. Occasionally, he will sub an offensive starter into the defensive side during a game to give us more depth at that position, and to give that particular player more gametime experience there. We do have back-ups, but sometimes there is an athlete from the other side of the ball that is actually the better choice, given the gravity of the playoffs and this particular game.

[wimbo_pro]

Typically, our coaching staff tries to avoid having our players play on both sides of the ball, but this week may be different. Coach Rodgers may have to opt for playing some of the better athletes on the team both ways, if necessary, due to injuries at that position. Occasionally, he will sub an offensive starter into the defensive side during a game to give us more depth at that position, and to give that particular player more gametime experience there. We do have back-ups, but sometimes there is an athlete from the other side of the ball that is actually the better choice, given the gravity of the playoffs and this particular game.

Same here.

[cowboyandchrist]

Our #1 secondary guy, Matt Ryon, was out last week from a concussion that happened in the Gilmer game. I'm not certain of his health, but we should find out later in the week of his status to play this week. I know we did have some injuries that may keep out at least one of our starters on the O-line, and that could be a major setback for our running game against your D.

Carthage D would put pressure on the Argyle Q/B but he would take off and gain a first down. The kid can run and throw. My question is, can Wimberly contain the Q/B ? I have not seen Wimberly play, but they must have a good D to make it this far. I am taking Argyle only because they beat an outstanding Carthage team. The linebackers for Argyle are very good. The o line makes very few mistakes and number 3 is a good reciever. God Bless both teams.

[YTBulldogs]

Carthage D would put pressure on the Argyle Q/B but he would take off and gain a first down. The kid can run and throw. My question is, can Wimberly contain the Q/B ? I have not seen Wimberly play, but they must have a good D to make it this far. I am taking Argyle only because they beat an outstanding Carthage team. The linebackers for Argyle are very good. The o line makes very few mistakes and number 3 is a good reciever. God Bless both teams.

Is that Argyle QB, Stump Godfrey good? One of the best athletes I ever seen play. You thought you had him sacked, only to see him escape and gain 20 on ya. Amazing athlete.

[wimbo_pro]

We definitely have our hands full!!! But I got a feeling we will win this game.

[wimbo_pro]

Does anyone know if the Texans are leaving Thursday or early Friday?

[YTBulldogs]

Does anyone know if the Texans are leaving Thursday or early Friday?

Gone Fishing reported early Fri morning, with a pre-game meal in Arlington.

[cowboyandchrist]

Is that Argyle QB, Stump Godfrey good? One of the best athletes I ever seen play. You thought you had him sacked, only to see him escape and gain 20 on ya. Amazing athlete.
No he is not that good, He would slide down or run out of bounds against Carthage. He can make people miss and then throw the ball on the run. You can not rattle him, he was cool under pressure against Carthage. The game was so close because of the Carthage D. They hit harder than any team I have watched all year. That may be the best way to slow down Argyle down is when you go to make a tackel, make sure you leave an impression. Don"t get me wrong, the Argyle D can play and I can promise you number 43 for Argyle will hit you.

[Sportshack]

Actually, Argyle's last opponent scored 14, 7 of which were a direct result from a poorly called personal foul. Monahans had 36 yds of offense in the 2nd half...

Yep...my bad...I meant no disrepect to Monahans but I was thining of the 2 games before that as I knew that the Lobos were an admitted 3 yards and a cloud of dust team.

[YTBulldogs]

No he is not that good, He would slide down or run out of bounds against Carthage. He can make people miss and then throw the ball on the run. You can not rattle him, he was cool under pressure against Carthage. The game was so close because of the Carthage D. They hit harder than any team I have watched all year. That may be the best way to slow down Argyle down is when you go to make a tackel, make sure you leave an impression. Don"t get me wrong, the Argyle D can play and I can promise you number 43 for Argyle will hit you.

Thanks CandC. Aune will be fun to watch.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Our #1 secondary guy, Matt Ryon, was out last week from a concussion that happened in the Gilmer game. I'm not certain of his health, but we should find out later in the week of his status to play this week. I know we did have some injuries that may keep out at least one of our starters on the O-line, and that could be a major setback for our running game against your D.

Not good news here, Regal. My sister said that he has been disqualified from contact sports for the rest of high school. Too many concussions.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Wow, thats interesting. Did you accidentally hit the 0 key when typing the 2 and 3? I'm not sure our O-linemen can push the sled 30 yards!
Oh, and if I was the back judge watching a O-linemen "driving" a D-linemen 30 yards down field on a play, I would be so impressed I wouldnt be able to find my flag. I'm just saying.

No I was being serious! Trey Keenan #77 drove a guy into the endzone when we weren't even in the red zone.

[Sportshack]

What I'm interested in seeing is what kind of mix of the offense the Texans will run against us. Looking at the stats, the Texans had more success in the passing game against Coldspring, but I suspect your scouting of them showed weaknesses in their secondary, and you exploited that. AND I am assuming they were very strong defensively against the run. I'm curious to see if you follow the same pattern against Argyle.

Coldspring was a very good defense across the board. There DB's were quite athletic. Just our night to make some plays in passing game. Had some timely runs and some nice runs. Also had some sacks. Good question on scheme. Generally try for 50-50 I think but sometimes that gets altered during game. I d not think Coldspring played anypassing teams in their playoff until perhaps their quarter final game against West-Orange Stark. Perhaps that was reason and also due to prtevious experience against them. However, Wimberley was mixing it up in early going.

[Gone Fishing]

Does anyone know if the Texans are leaving Thursday or early Friday?


Gone Fishing reported early Fri morning, with a pre-game meal in Arlington.

Yes and a community pep rally Thursday night at the stadium. I heard 7:00.

[Sportshack]

Not good news here, Regal. My sister said that he has been disqualified from contact sports for the rest of high school. Too many concussions.

Poor kid!! Hate to hear that news. Was he a basketball or baseball guy as well? or an underclassman?

[Tejastrue]

Yes and a community pep rally Thursday night at the stadium. I heard 7:00.

Texan Booster site has all the info posted. At least in regards to the pep rally.

[firstdown]

Poor kid!! Hate to hear that news. Was he a basketball or baseball guy as well? or an underclassman?

Senior, single sport athlete that I'm positive of.....he may run track also.

[regaleagle]

I'm not quite sure how many picks Matt Ryon had, but he had a bunch. He was the leader of the secondary, has great speed, and hit very hard. Was very good against both the run and the pass. His loss will be felt in our secondary Friday nite. He may still make the all-state team in the secondary, or perhaps second teamer. Just depends on the voters and the rest of the players at that position statewide. He's a goodun, though. Too bad his abilities will not be showcased in this game.

[waterboy]

I'll admit I don't know much about Wimberley at all, but when I saw Argyle beat Carthage and Gilmer in successive weeks I felt like they would be the next state champions. I still do. Aune is one of those players that is cool under pressure. Just when you think you're going to get to him, he either takes off, takes a side step and/or rolls out, or throws the ball. I could definitely see how other teams couldn't sack him. You not only have to put pressure on him, but you also have to contain him, AND keep coverage on ALL the receivers at his disposal (all of the receivers are either fast, or a LOAD to bring down, too). The Eagle offensive line rarely allows you do all of the above. Defensively, they make stops when they have to, but you can usually move the ball against them. I guess it's more of a "bend but don't break" type of defense. It seems they rarely give up the big play. The Argyle coaches also are very good at making in-game adjustments both offensively and defensively. In order for Wimberley to win, they will have to play basically mistake-free football offensively, and not give up the big play defensively, keeping the Eagles from getting inside the Texan 30-yard line. If Argyle gets inside your 30-yard line, it's almost automatically points for the Eagles.

If Wimberley is as good as their record and stats indicate, which I have no reason to believe otherwise, this should be a classic game between two very good teams!

[YTBulldogs]

I'll admit I don't know much about Wimberley at all, but when I saw Argyle beat Carthage and Gilmer in successive weeks I felt like they would be the next state champions. I still do. Aune is one of those players that is cool under pressure. Just when you think you're going to get to him, he either takes off, takes a side step and/or rolls out, or throws the ball. I could definitely see how other teams couldn't sack him. You not only have to put pressure on him, but you also have to contain him, AND keep coverage on ALL the receivers at his disposal (all of the receivers are either fast, or a LOAD to bring down, too). The Eagle offensive line rarely allows you do all of the above. Defensively, they make stops when they have to, but you can usually move the ball against them. I guess it's more of a "bend but don't break" type of defense. It seems they rarely give up the big play. The Argyle coaches also are very good at making in-game adjustments both offensively and defensively. In order for Wimberley to win, they will have to play basically mistake-free football offensively, and not give up the big play defensively, keeping the Eagles from getting inside the Texan 30-yard line. If Argyle gets inside your 30-yard line, it's almost automatically points for the Eagles.

If Wimberley is as good as their record and stats indicate, which I have no reason to believe otherwise, this should be a classic game between two very good teams!

Great read and insight. Both teams have what it takes to win it all. Classic for sure.

[YTBulldogs]

I really think Wimberley can use the same game plan they used last week in this one.

Like I mentioned when it happened, that Taylor game was huge for the Texans. Most thought it showed a Texan weakness. I think it was just a motivated Ducks team to shock the world performance. Them against the world attitude, that nearly worked. That fear of death, dreams dashed nearly ended the first week of playoffs, has made this Texan team more determined to fully focus at the task at hand since that scare. A team that will not be denied.

My predicted score forthcoming on Weds. Gotta ponder a few more things.

[Sportshack]

I gotta say that I watched the Argyle v Gilmer game film again. Two very good teams, obviously. While I am still very impressed with the things Argyle accomplished in that game, I am starting to feel a bit better about the upcoming match ups. I think that the Texans might be able to create some problems on both sides of ball. And I am in no way saying the Texans will shut down Argyle offense. I actually decided that on further reflection their main 2 receivers are really good and on par with Wimberley group...heck maybe better. Nonetheless, some room for optimism. I am cautiously optimistic that the Texans will be successful in both run game and passing game. And I feel like their defensive front might just be able to hold up even though they are facing a bunch of college commits. The worm is starting to turn for me ever so slightly. None of that means that Wimberley will win...but I am thinking that a very interesting game is a distinct possibility.

[regaleagle]

Oh, there's no doubt in my mind this will be a rockem-sockem game, alright. I figure Argyle will score and Wimberley will score, and the D's will be adusting to the O's as the game progresses. I also foresee some turnovers in a game like this, as both teams will be throwing the ball around to stretch the D's. I also feel that both D's will be able to stop the run in the early going, thereby instigating a more wide-open offensive attack from each team.

[firstdown]

I gotta say that I watched the Argyle v Gilmer game film again. Two very good teams, obviously. While I am still very impressed with the things Argyle accomplished in that game, I am starting to feel a bit better about the upcoming match ups. I think that the Texans might be able to create some problems on both sides of ball. And I am in no way saying the Texans will shut down Argyle offense. I actually decided that on further reflection their main 2 receivers are really good and on par with Wimberley group...heck maybe better. Nonetheless, some room for optimism. I am cautiously optimistic that the Texans will be successful in both run game and passing game. And I feel like their defensive front might just be able to hold up even though they are facing a bunch of college commits. The worm is starting to turn for me ever so slightly. None of that means that Wimberley will win...but I am thinking that a very interesting game is a distinct possibility.

I'm not as sure of your chances as you are. As a matter of fact I think your chances are slim and none, we are battle tested and from a stronger region. There is no way that Wimberley can be any better than what we have faced so far this year. Good luck your gonna need it to win this one.

Argyle 52 Wimberley 14

[YTBulldogs]

I'm not as sure of your chances as you are. As a matter of fact I think your chances are slim and none, we are battle tested and from a stronger region. There is no way that Wimberley can be any better than what we have faced so far this year. Good luck your gonna need it to win this one.

Argyle 52 Wimberley 14

By 38? :eek:

[firstdown]

By 38? :eek:


you can put it in three inch headlines "HOW 'BOUT THEM EAGLES"

:1popcorn:

[YTBulldogs]

you can put it in three inch headlines "HOW 'BOUT THEM EAGLES"

:1popcorn:

I agree, they are good. Maybe 3 or 8, but--38? Damn.:eek:

[Tejastrue]

I'm not as sure of your chances as you are. As a matter of fact I think your chances are slim and none, we are battle tested and from a stronger region. There is no way that Wimberley can be any better than what we have faced so far this year. Good luck your gonna need it to win this one.

Argyle 52 Wimberley 14


:spitlol::spitlol:At least you have your location right.

[firstdown]

I agree, they are good. Maybe 3 or 8, but--38? Damn.:eek:

Who really know for sure...dang sure ain't me.


I just thought I would take a stand. I wrote what I wrote and I stand by what I wrote. +38.

Tejastrue have you seen Argyle play?

[lbjacj]

I'm not as sure of your chances as you are. As a matter of fact I think your chances are slim and none, we are battle tested and from a stronger region. There is no way that Wimberley can be any better than what we have faced so far this year. Good luck your gonna need it to win this one.

Argyle 52 Wimberley 14

Los Owls ??? Is that you???

You obviously don't know your HS football? What a joke!

[YTBulldogs]

Los Owls ??? Is that you???

You obviously don't know your HS football? What a joke!

LOL @ LO's. :)

[firstdown]

Los Owls ??? Is that you???

You obviously don't know your HS football? What a joke!

No joke, why do you think it's a joke? I really believe we blow out Wimberley. Just because it's not a popular opinion on this site that doesn't make it a joke. And btw I do know high school football. I played, have two sons that played, have officiated, and have coaches in the family. Have you watched Argyle this year?

[lbjacj]

one of those players that is cool under pressure. Just when you think you're going to get to him, he either takes off, takes a side step and/or rolls out, or throws the ball. I could definitely see how other teams couldn't sack him. You not only have to put pressure on him, but you also have to contain him, AND keep coverage on ALL the receivers at his disposal (all of the receivers are either fast, or a LOAD to bring down, too). The offensive line rarely allows you do all of the above. Defensively, they make stops when they have to. I guess it's more of a "bend but don't break" type of defense. It seems they rarely give up the big play. The coaches also are very good at making in-game adjustments both offensively and defensively. In order for Argyle to win, they will have to play basically mistake-free football offensively, and not give up the big play defensively,this should be a classic game between two very good teams!

Sounds like you could be talking about the Texans!

[YTBulldogs]

Have you watched Argyle this year?

I've just seen some clips here and there. Your right, ya'll are very talented. Loaded with D1 players. Amazing. Curious which Texan game you seen to have them getting blasted by 38 though?

[Tejastrue]

Who really know for sure...dang sure ain't me.


I just thought I would take a stand. I wrote what I wrote and I stand by what I wrote. +38.

Tejastrue have you seen Argyle play?


No, I have not seen Argyle play. I did not see Taylor, Gonzales, Sweeny, Devine and Coldspring play until they played us. Your friend in Devine who predicted that 40 pt win for the Warhorses, she been sharing that same kool-aid? Just think it shows a lack of any respect on your part. Great if you feel that Argyle is that much better and we have no chance. We don't have to like it and of course you have every right to say what you feel but we've heard this same sort of crap all year. We shall see.

[ogg]

No joke, why do you think it's a joke? I really believe we blow out Wimberley. Just because it's not a popular opinion on this site that doesn't make it a joke. And btw I do know high school football. I played, have two sons that played, have officiated, and have coaches in the family. Have you watched Argyle this year?

You can say that but we can't,,,,,we played the Ducks.

[wimbo_pro]

No joke, why do you think it's a joke? I really believe we blow out Wimberley. Just because it's not a popular opinion on this site that doesn't make it a joke. And btw I do know high school football. I played, have two sons that played, have officiated, and have coaches in the family. Have you watched Argyle this year?
We are all certainly entitled to our opinions...as you are entitled to yours as well, FirstDown. And who knows, you could end up being right about the score you predict. However, let it be known high and low that there is ZERO evidence...ZERO statistical evidence to back up your claim. Z-E-R-O.

So, with this in mind, your prediction is duly noted. And you will be the hero if it turns out to be correct (or even close to correct). But be on notice that your prediction is seen for what it is...simply a homer blabbering of ridiculous proportion.

[firstdown]

No, I have not seen Argyle play. I did not see Taylor, Gonzales, Sweeny, Devine and Coldspring play until they played us. Your friend in Devine who predicted that 40 pt win for the Warhorses, she been sharing that same kool-aid? Just think it shows a lack of any respect on your part. Great if you feel that Argyle is that much better and we have no chance. We don't have to like it and of course you have every right to say what you feel but we've heard this same sort of crap all year. We shall see.

Now I'll come clean I haven't watch your team either. No disrespect intended I apologize if that's how it was taken. Please understand we are not Devine. I feel as strongly about our Eagles and if I'm wrong I won't run and hide. I'll be at the game Friday look me up and I'll buy you one of Jerrys high dollar hot dogs. I'm easy to find just ask almost anyone from Argyle for Tiger and they'll send you my way.

[firstdown]

We are all certainly entitled to our opinions...as you are entitled to yours as well, FirstDown. And who knows, you could end up being right about the score you predict. However, let it be known high and low that there is ZERO evidence...ZERO statistical evidence to back up your claim. Z-E-R-O.

So, with this in mind, your prediction is duly noted. And you will be the hero if it turns out to be correct (or even close to correct). But be on notice that your prediction is seen for what it is...simply a homer blabbering of ridiculous proportion.

Duly noted, I knew when I posted this it wouldn't be popular. Relax it's all fun and games right?

[wimbo_pro]

Duly noted, I knew when I posted this it wouldn't be popular. Relax it's all fun and games right?

Absolutely...no offense taken at all. You are an avid fan...no problem. And...it might end up you are right!! and it might end up the numbers are flipped, making you right again! LOL

[wimbo_pro]

Hey...question for Wimberley fans. I could have SWORN that I saw #32 run the ball a couple times in Bastrop. That would be a freshman, brother of our QB. Was I seeing things?

[LionFan72]

Hey...question for Wimberley fans. I could have SWORN that I saw #32 run the ball a couple times in Bastrop. That would be a freshman, brother of our QB. Was I seeing things?

You been known to hold a peace pipe wimbo, you could've seen things that didn't happen, how would we know? lol. Just button the chin strap and hunker down to a great game! Nuff said!

[Gone Fishing]

Yes and a community pep rally Thursday night at the stadium. I heard 7:00.

Sorry the community pep rally is at the gym.

[lbjacj]

Sorry the community pep rally is at the gym.

This is insane! No way the gym can hold a quarter of the people who will show up?:confused:

[Gone Fishing]

I'm not as sure of your chances as you are. As a matter of fact I think your chances are slim and none, we are battle tested and from a stronger region. There is no way that Wimberley can be any better than what we have faced so far this year. Good luck your gonna need it to win this one.

Argyle 52 Wimberley 14
I dont care who you are, now thats funny!!!!

[Gone Fishing]

This is insane! No way the gym can hold a quarter of the people who will show up?:confused:

True that. The track and stadium is under some type of construction.

[lbjacj]

True that. The track and stadium is under some type of construction.

Yeah but the gym? Have it in the parking lot at the school. People could park at the Jr High and walk across the street.

[wimbo_pro]

You been known to hold a peace pipe wimbo, you could've seen things that didn't happen, how would we know? lol. Just button the chin strap and hunker down to a great game! Nuff said!
No!! I'm serious!!! Did anyone else see #32 Lambert run the ball? Someone said yes, others said no. Just looking for more input.

[lbjacj]

Maxpreps is looking for someone to Quixcore the game. I'm going to have a crowd of kids and grandkids with me and I can't do it. It is really easy to do. Just go here and follow their instructions...

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/wimberley-texans-(wimberley,tx)/football/home.htm

[YTBulldogs]

True that. The track and stadium is under some type of construction.

Hold it at Wimbo's crib?

[hunt4it44]

No!! I'm serious!!! Did anyone else see #32 Lambert run the ball? Someone said yes, others said no. Just looking for more input.

Nah. Didn't happen. I am pretty sure Smith, Wilson and Kelly were the only ball carriers. Wimberley kelps their player stats on pressbox sports website and they should be updated in another day or two. I will repost if I am wrong

[lbjacj]

3A Rankings...
http://www.maxpreps.com/rankings/football-fall-11/1/division/tx/hnXm27o2yUWpS0Gh-aqWrg/division-3a.htm

Dead even!

http://www.adjustedstats.com/ratings-stats/tools/txhsfbmatchup.php?team1=Argyle&site=@&team2=Wimberley

http://www.adjustedstats.com/ratings-stats/txhsfbewpratings.php?year=2011&class=3A

[rb585]

Now I'll come clean I haven't watch your team either. No disrespect intended I apologize if that's how it was taken.

Well jeez, why would anybody think you're disrespecting a team who's undefeated by predicting that they'll lose by 38 even though you've never seen them play?

[rb585]

Hey...question for Wimberley fans. I could have SWORN that I saw #32 run the ball a couple times in Bastrop. That would be a freshman, brother of our QB. Was I seeing things?

Pass the bottle around the next game, OK Brah?

He played on kickoff coverage. I noticed him because his helmet looked really big because he had no stickers on it. Plus, he was the only guy out there who didn't have his name on his back.

I saw him run track last spring -- he will be good next year, and he will eventually be a beast.

[snaxet]

No!! I'm serious!!! Did anyone else see #32 Lambert run the ball? Someone said yes, others said no. Just looking for more input.

His name was wrongly called by the announcer on a run by Trinity. However, he did in fact come in just before half and play several defensive downs when Alana went out. He will see a lot of action on both sides of the ball next year. Good to see another Lambert coming along. The coaches obviously have a lot of confidence in him to let him mix it up for a few downs against Coldsprings.

[Sportshack]

Hey...question for Wimberley fans. I could have SWORN that I saw #32 run the ball a couple times in Bastrop. That would be a freshman, brother of our QB. Was I seeing things?

I did not see that. I have noticed that sometimes Trint Wilson's number looks like a 32 until closer scrutiny. I only recall Trint, Dennis, Kolby and Brady running the ball.

[regaleagle]

I'm thinking it will be more difficult for Aryle's D to defend against Wimberley's offensive sets and threats, than it will be for the Texans to defend against Argyle's sets and threats. This will give Wimberley a definitive edge in the game. On the other hand, I believe Argyle will have the advantage in the line on both sides of the ball, thereby equalizing Wimberley's play-calling advantages by limiting their options on offense, and keeping them off-balance on defense by giving Aune the time he needs to operate the offense effectively.

[Sportshack]

No joke, why do you think it's a joke? I really believe we blow out Wimberley. Just because it's not a popular opinion on this site that doesn't make it a joke. And btw I do know high school football. I played, have two sons that played, have officiated, and have coaches in the family. Have you watched Argyle this year?

Well....I did watch the Gilmer game on you tube. A Gilmer fan posted 43 minutes worth of game clips. Appeared to be the entire game. Good game. I watched the line play and thought...hmmm...their O-line is not really mauling Gilmer...in fact hey did not really get much push in running game until late in game. I also noticed that Gilmer had quite a bit of success with their brand of offense. I mean 35 points is 35 points no matter how you slice it and they were driving in deep for another apparent score when the pick 6 occurred. I kept thinking well...hell...we can do that kind of stuff. I believe that our RB's are better but it might simply be a great offensive line/scheme by Gilmer. My son came by and sat down for a few minutes. I think it was still in 1st half and he watched a few plays and said wow they sure give up the edge easy. Of course we also saw plenty of Gilmer short and longer pass completions too. Then we saw gashes up the middle...by little RB's. Of course, I do not have to tell y'all because you were there and I am sure were lamenting the same things that I noted. I then noted that despite bad turnovers by Gilmer and great field position there was a stretch of the game where Argyle settled for 3 FG's in a row. For example not sure why Gilmer tried on side kick when down 41-35 but I could not see clock. Probably did not feel they could stop Argyle possibly. More good field position. So I really want to believe that we have the capability to score some points against what I saw from the eye in the sky so to speak. Now I also saw some great things from Argyle on both sides of ball and mean no disrespect when discussing game. Could be that Gilmer is head and shoulders above Wimberley and we are just walking into the Lion's den. Or it could be y'all were a little off since you had been in an emotional intense game against Carthage the week before securing final victory after giving up 34 more points when the PAT clanked off the goal post. I realize I only got the one game to go by and that does not give a picture of the entire season. Teams and the various units on teams can have their ups and downs. The Texans have had their share of off games to be sure and it almost cost us on at least one occasion. The other close game was to a district champion in Region III and we were without one of our impact players. We have managed to stay undefeated thus far. Probably a little luck involved. I know you know how hard it is to go undefeated if you KNOW football as you contend. Soooo many variables to consider really. I hope what I saw on film is actual and not just a poor game against the Gilmer offense.No way for me to know if that was an off night for the Eagles defense. It certainly was a good night for the offense. And all of my analysis only makes me believe we have a chance if we play well. And....do not forget firstdown your team HAS been beaten soundly in a rivalry game earlier in the year...has given up 24, 34, and 35 points in the not too distant past...therefore....I will stand by my belief that the Texans have a bit better chance to stay in the game than you give them credit for having! However, no bold prediction from me as I am impressed with a clearly talented, well coached group of competitors that are the Argyle Eagles. Hopefully, Wimberley will get a few good bounces and attain its second undefeated season. Did I mention that I think the Texans are well coached.

[Sportshack]

I'm thinking it will be more difficult for Aryle's D to defend against Wimberley's offensive sets and threats, than it will be for the Texans to defend against Argyle's sets and threats. This will give Wimberley a definitive edge in the game. On the other hand, I believe Argyle will have the advantage in the line on both sides of the ball, thereby equalizing Wimberley's play-calling advantages by limiting their options on offense, and keeping them off-balance on defense by giving Aune the time he needs to operate the offense effectively.

Yep that kid can spin the ball. And those receivers are really, really talented. You got two great ones based on what I saw from Gilmer game.

[regaleagle]

No Sportshack, you saw right. Wimberley WILL score on Argyle, no question. Our defense does have some areas that can be exploited. When the field gets shorter, it will be more difficult to gain yardage or pass on us. Bend but don't break is a fairly good description of our D against a quality offensive team. We are also susceptible to giving up the long pass. Short to medium passes we defend better than most of our opponents. The corners may be OK for 3-5 yards on occasion, but your best bet on runs is misdirection. You can google up Gilmer Buckeyes website and look at the complete game film of our game. I've already watched it. You must remember they were averaging 45 pts. per game with their offense. And their backs and recievers had great speed and height advantages. We played them well enough, just well enough, to win it.

[Sportshack]

No Sportshack, you saw right. Wimberley WILL score on Argyle, no question. Our defense does have some areas that can be exploited. When the field gets shorter, it will be more difficult to gain yardage or pass on us. Bend but don't break is a fairly good description of our D against a quality offensive team. We are also susceptible to giving up the long pass. Short to medium passes we defend better than most of our opponents. The corners may be OK for 3-5 yards on occasion, but your best bet on runs is misdirection. You can google up Gilmer Buckeyes website and look at the complete game film of our game. I've already watched it. You must remember they were averaging 45 pts. per game with their offense. And their backs and recievers had great speed and height advantages. We played them well enough, just well enough, to win it.

Well all I ever said was I saw some things that gave me some bit of optimism or hope really. After the 52-14 prediction I just weighed in a little more on what I saw. Like I said...Gilmer might be head and shoulders above Wimberley. However, we got some guys that could play on any team. I know that Gilmer is good I just think we might have a chance to do some similar things.We have had some games where w did not click as well as we would like. In those games our defense kept in until the offense picked up some steam. I do not expect that luxury against Argyle. All the stars will have to align.

[BLACK ATTACK]

Well....I did watch the Gilmer game on you tube. A Gilmer fan posted 43 minutes worth of game clips. Appeared to be the entire game. Good game. I watched the line play and thought...hmmm...their O-line is not really mauling Gilmer...in fact hey did not really get much push in running game until late in game. I also noticed that Gilmer had quite a bit of success with their brand of offense. I mean 35 points is 35 points no matter how you slice it and they were driving in deep for another apparent score when the pick 6 occurred. I kept thinking well...hell...we can do that kind of stuff. I believe that our RB's are better but it might simply be a great offensive line/scheme by Gilmer. My son came by and sat down for a few minutes. I think it was still in 1st half and he watched a few plays and said wow they sure give up the edge easy. Of course we also saw plenty of Gilmer short and longer pass completions too. Then we saw gashes up the middle...by little RB's. Of course, I do not have to tell y'all because you were there and I am sure were lamenting the same things that I noted. I then noted that despite bad turnovers by Gilmer and great field position there was a stretch of the game where Argyle settled for 3 FG's in a row. For example not sure why Gilmer tried on side kick when down 41-35 but I could not see clock. Probably did not feel they could stop Argyle possibly. More good field position. So I really want to believe that we have the capability to score some points against what I saw from the eye in the sky so to speak. Now I also saw some great things from Argyle on both sides of ball and mean no disrespect when discussing game. Could be that Gilmer is head and shoulders above Wimberley and we are just walking into the Lion's den. Or it could be y'all were a little off since you had been in an emotional intense game against Carthage the week before securing final victory after giving up 34 more points when the PAT clanked off the goal post. I realize I only got the one game to go by and that does not give a picture of the entire season. Teams and the various units on teams can have their ups and downs. The Texans have had their share of off games to be sure and it almost cost us on at least one occasion. The other close game was to a district champion in Region III and we were without one of our impact players. We have managed to stay undefeated thus far. Probably a little luck involved. I know you know how hard it is to go undefeated if you KNOW football as you contend. Soooo many variables to consider really. I hope what I saw on film is actual and not just a poor game against the Gilmer offense.No way for me to know if that was an off night for the Eagles defense. It certainly was a good night for the offense. And all of my analysis only makes me believe we have a chance if we play well. And....do not forget firstdown your team HAS been beaten soundly in a rivalry game earlier in the year...has given up 24, 34, and 35 points in the not too distant past...therefore....I will stand by my belief that the Texans have a bit better chance to stay in the game than you give them credit for having! However, no bold prediction from me as I am impressed with a clearly talented, well coached group of competitors that are the Argyle Eagles. Hopefully, Wimberley will get a few good bounces and attain its second undefeated season. Did I mention that I think the Texans are well coached.


Mistake #1 is underestimating how good Gilmer was in the 1st place. I've watched 5 full games of you guys, and you haven't played anyone even close to Gilmer.
But you keep all that confidence and sarcasm you got moving full steam ahead. It'll be fun to watch it fade away.

[regaleagle]

I'm certain the Wimberley stars will be aligning like in no other game this year. When it's time to shine, the stars seem to appear the brightest. I just hope the Argyle stars will shine just as brightly. Then we can all point to a game well-played and a day full of good memories. Like Wimbo said earlier, the journey is almost as important as the final score, if not moreso. And that applies to all of us, but esp. the players.

[Tejastrue]

Mistake #1 is underestimating how good Gilmer was in the 1st place. I've watched 5 full games of you guys, and you haven't played anyone even close to Gilmer.
But you keep all that confidence and sarcasm you got moving full steam ahead. It'll be fun to watch it fade away.

And you rest on your laurels a bit too long it could be a very hard fall. That would also be quite enjoyable to watch.

[wimbo_pro]

Nah. Didn't happen. I am pretty sure Smith, Wilson and Kelly were the only ball carriers. Wimberley kelps their player stats on pressbox sports website and they should be updated in another day or two. I will repost if I am wrong

Thanks Hunt...let me know!

[wimbo_pro]

Pass the bottle around the next game, OK Brah?

He played on kickoff coverage. I noticed him because his helmet looked really big because he had no stickers on it. Plus, he was the only guy out there who didn't have his name on his back.

I saw him run track last spring -- he will be good next year, and he will eventually be a beast.

LOL@RB...yeah, ok. He has been a stud on the 9th grade team, thats for sure!

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Well....I did watch the Gilmer game on you tube. A Gilmer fan posted 43 minutes worth of game clips. Appeared to be the entire game. Good game. I watched the line play and thought...hmmm...their O-line is not really mauling Gilmer...in fact hey did not really get much push in running game until late in game. I also noticed that Gilmer had quite a bit of success with their brand of offense. I mean 35 points is 35 points no matter how you slice it and they were driving in deep for another apparent score when the pick 6 occurred. I kept thinking well...hell...we can do that kind of stuff. I believe that our RB's are better but it might simply be a great offensive line/scheme by Gilmer. My son came by and sat down for a few minutes. I think it was still in 1st half and he watched a few plays and said wow they sure give up the edge easy. Of course we also saw plenty of Gilmer short and longer pass completions too. Then we saw gashes up the middle...by little RB's. Of course, I do not have to tell y'all because you were there and I am sure were lamenting the same things that I noted. I then noted that despite bad turnovers by Gilmer and great field position there was a stretch of the game where Argyle settled for 3 FG's in a row. For example not sure why Gilmer tried on side kick when down 41-35 but I could not see clock. Probably did not feel they could stop Argyle possibly. More good field position. So I really want to believe that we have the capability to score some points against what I saw from the eye in the sky so to speak. Now I also saw some great things from Argyle on both sides of ball and mean no disrespect when discussing game. Could be that Gilmer is head and shoulders above Wimberley and we are just walking into the Lion's den. Or it could be y'all were a little off since you had been in an emotional intense game against Carthage the week before securing final victory after giving up 34 more points when the PAT clanked off the goal post. I realize I only got the one game to go by and that does not give a picture of the entire season. Teams and the various units on teams can have their ups and downs. The Texans have had their share of off games to be sure and it almost cost us on at least one occasion. The other close game was to a district champion in Region III and we were without one of our impact players. We have managed to stay undefeated thus far. Probably a little luck involved. I know you know how hard it is to go undefeated if you KNOW football as you contend. Soooo many variables to consider really. I hope what I saw on film is actual and not just a poor game against the Gilmer offense.No way for me to know if that was an off night for the Eagles defense. It certainly was a good night for the offense. And all of my analysis only makes me believe we have a chance if we play well. And....do not forget firstdown your team HAS been beaten soundly in a rivalry game earlier in the year...has given up 24, 34, and 35 points in the not too distant past...therefore....I will stand by my belief that the Texans have a bit better chance to stay in the game than you give them credit for having! However, no bold prediction from me as I am impressed with a clearly talented, well coached group of competitors that are the Argyle Eagles. Hopefully, Wimberley will get a few good bounces and attain its second undefeated season. Did I mention that I think the Texans are well coached.

Did you see the lucky plays that Gilmer was getting all night? 1)Gilmer is driving and is inside the red zone and their QB throws a ball directly into the hands of one of our linebackers and he drops it. They go on to score shortly after. 2)Gilmer is driving and their QB throws a ball up that deflects off of one receiver and into the hands of another for a huge gain. 3)The pick 6 that you are referring to happened on a 4th down so although it was a big play and may have changed the game, we would have gotten the ball back anyway and they weren't able to stop us all night.

Gilmer was a great team - also undefeated in the best district in 3A Texas football. Projections had us losing that game and Adjusted Stats also has Wimberley losing that game if they had played but projections do not matter because if that was the case, Coldspring would be playing this week since they were projected to beat Wimberley.

Going undefeated is certainly a huge accomplishment and a very tough thing to do. Our loss to Prosper in week 4 took the pressure off this team and they have rattled off 10 straight after that.

Although I would love to see it, I don't see Argyle blowing out Wimberley as mentioned by FirstDown. You don't reach the state championship and be undefeated without being a great team.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Here are some thoughts that I had that I wanted to share...

-It has been claimed that Wimberley has a better rushing attack than Argyle does but I do not see how this is accurate. Argyle has 586 more rushing yards than Wimberley on the season and Argyle RB Tyler Eveleth has outrushed Trinity Wilson. Can someone from Wimberley fill me in on why Wimberley has the edge here.

-Argyle has the edge in the passing game. I just watched the video of Brady Lambert and he does look like a good player but I do not think he is on the same level that Austin Aune is on. It looks like he is not scared to take off down field just as Austin Aune does. Containing Lambert will be key for Argyle.

-It looks like Wimberley has the edge in defense. Argyle is giving up 17 points per year on defense and Wimberley is giving up 13.

-Argyle has the edge in the kicking game. Our punter is ranked 34th nationally but he is seldom used because we do not punt very much and Cole Hedlund set a national record for most made field goals in a season last week with 23. I have not researched your punter or kicker but I would be surprised if they could be better than these two guys. In a game like this, it could come down to a game-winning field goal.

[wimbo_pro]

I went to the Booster Club dinner last night and listened to Coach Nelms go over the Coldspring game film. Wow, he is really a great leader of young men. He knows what to do on the field, but far more importantly, he is keeping perspective on what this means to the team. No braggedocious talk (confidence? yes), nothing but respect for Argyle and what they have. He talked more about the young men becoming adults and what this means in their life and whether we win or lose, the affect this trip to the Big Show will have on "his boys". He refered to the '05 team and what those "boys" have become today...and he teared up. I have more respect for Nelms now than ever.

I too have confidence in our team, and I do think we will win this game. But if we don't, I know that our goal of teaching our young men about fair play, teamwork, dedication and hard work will have been achieved.

[Sportshack]

Mistake #1 is underestimating how good Gilmer was in the 1st place. I've watched 5 full games of you guys, and you haven't played anyone even close to Gilmer.
But you keep all that confidence and sarcasm you got moving full steam ahead. It'll be fun to watch it fade away.

I qualified what I said thoroughly...nor did I really express any overt confidence that we could win. I recall thinking how the supreme confidence of the Argyle posters was really bleeding through even though their was some intial diplomacy. And I feel that Argyle fans should feel good about their team. All I said was that I saw some things that gave me hope we could stay in the game and who knows...maybe pull off the upset. It did not take much to fish out some not so diplomatic posts. And believe me , I know Gilmer is good and said as much. Yep...I pulled at a few threads...but only to suggest that we got a chance.

If you do not think that Wimberley can compete with Gilmer, so be it. I watched two games from Gilmer this year and hold a different opinion. And I am no way saying we WOULD win over Gilmer. However, if I am right and we can compete favorably with a team that had some tough turnovers against you...and tough field postition...and was still in the game at 41-35 for a bit then maybe we can catch some breaks and have a chance to win. Also, recall I was responding to a post predicting a 38 point margin of victory. Therefore, I felt compelled to point out that evn though Argyle is a great team and a great program...like every one else competing they are human have so demonstrated.

I would not be surprised totally to see Wimberley get thumped...nor would I be surprised to see a good game...nor would I be surprised to see Wimberely win. Wimberley will definitely have to play their best game. I still do not think it is a great matchup for us. The only really profficient passing team we have played is Drippng Springs. That is a concern to me. Again all I really said was that there was some hope that we could make it a game. A far cry from saying that we will dominate Argyle. So to recap...I am not sure that I exhibted any more confidence than saying perhaps we could make it a game and described what I saw that made me feel that way. Also, every other thread I pulled on to rationalize, dare I say it, a good game is a fact...your team has lost soundly this year to I presume a good team...and your team has been pushed by other good teams...period. The issue is whether Wimberley falls into that category of "good team". You say absolutely not and I say...well maybe... if things go right. You got futher to fall than me.

[Sportshack]

Did you see the lucky plays that Gilmer was getting all night? 1)Gilmer is driving and is inside the red zone and their QB throws a ball directly into the hands of one of our linebackers and he drops it. They go on to score shortly after. 2)Gilmer is driving and their QB throws a ball up that deflects off of one receiver and into the hands of another for a huge gain. 3)The pick 6 that you are referring to happened on a 4th down so although it was a big play and may have changed the game, we would have gotten the ball back anyway and they weren't able to stop us all night.

Gilmer was a great team - also undefeated in the best district in 3A Texas football. Projections had us losing that game and Adjusted Stats also has Wimberley losing that game if they had played but projections do not matter because if that was the case, Coldspring would be playing this week since they were projected to beat Wimberley.

Going undefeated is certainly a huge accomplishment and a very tough thing to do. Our loss to Prosper in week 4 took the pressure off this team and they have rattled off 10 straight after that.

Although I would love to see it, I don't see Argyle blowing out Wimberley as mentioned by FirstDown. You don't reach the state championship and be undefeated without being a great team.

Now...those are GOOD counterpoints. Slow clap. :clap:

[waterboy]

With all due respect ADK, there were a "few" lucky plays in that Gilmer/Argyle game, but there were also uncharacteristic mistakes by Gilmer, i.e. penalties, turnovers (3), and dropped passes. Argyle was the better team and deserved to move on, but it had nothing to do with luck, in my opinion. The Buckeyes had over 500 yards of offense in that game, which should have been enough, but like you said, Gilmer was unable to make the stops defensively when needed and Argyle was. That was truly the difference in our matchup.

I think Argyle will win this game IF the players and coaches don't read into the hype, and think they have this game in the bag. I don't see that happening, so I will say the Eagles win, but I'm also thinking it will be a lot like the Argyle / Gilmer game, or maybe even the Argyle / Carthage game if the Eagles make those same type of mistakes they made in that game.

[Sportshack]

Here are some thoughts that I had that I wanted to share...

-It has been claimed that Wimberley has a better rushing attack than Argyle does but I do not see how this is accurate. Argyle has 586 more rushing yards than Wimberley on the season and Argyle RB Tyler Eveleth has outrushed Trinity Wilson. Can someone from Wimberley fill me in on why Wimberley has the edge here.

-Argyle has the edge in the passing game. I just watched the video of Brady Lambert and he does look like a good player but I do not think he is on the same level that Austin Aune is on. It looks like he is not scared to take off down field just as Austin Aune does. Containing Lambert will be key for Argyle.

-It looks like Wimberley has the edge in defense. Argyle is giving up 17 points per year on defense and Wimberley is giving up 13.

-Argyle has the edge in the kicking game. Our punter is ranked 34th nationally but he is seldom used because we do not punt very much and Cole Hedlund set a national record for most made field goals in a season last week with 23. I have not researched your punter or kicker but I would be surprised if they could be better than these two guys. In a game like this, it could come down to a game-winning field goal.

More good points. I do not think that Wimberley necessarily has a better running game. I think that they have more talented RB's but again that is based on watching film of Gilmer game. We all know Gilmer is good. However, the offensive line is a big part of equation. You likely have the edge in that category. The issue is how well will Wimberley be able to move the ball. If they can some of the gashes that I saw the Gilmer RB's get then our offense will become exponetially better based on the schemes, etc. You are the favorite no doubt about it. Kicking game just gives you anotter advantage.

[zebrablue2]

I went to the Booster Club dinner last night and listened to Coach Nelms go over the Coldspring game film. Wow, he is really a great leader of young men. He knows what to do on the field, but far more importantly, he is keeping perspective on what this means to the team. No braggedocious talk (confidence? yes), nothing but respect for Argyle and what they have. He talked more about the young men becoming adults and what this means in their life and whether we win or lose, the affect this trip to the Big Show will have on "his boys". He refered to the '05 team and what those "boys" have become today...and he teared up. I have more respect for Nelms now than ever.

I too have confidence in our team, and I do think we will win this game. But if we don't, I know that our goal of teaching our young men about fair play, teamwork, dedication and hard work will have been achieved.

At that ladies and gentlemen is what it is all about!:clap:

[ADKargyleTCU12]

I qualified what I said thoroughly...nor did I really express any overt confidence that we could win. I recall thinking how the supreme confidence of the Argyle posters was really bleeding through even though their was some intial diplomacy. And I feel that Argyle fans should feel good about their team. All I said was that I saw some things that gave me hope we could stay in the game and who knows...maybe pull off the upset. It did not take much to fish out some not so diplomatic posts. And believe me , I know Gilmer is good and said as much. Yep...I pulled at a few threads...but only to suggest that we got a chance.

If you do not think that Wimberley can compete with Gilmer, so be it. I watched two games from Gilmer this year and hold a different opinion. And I am no way saying we WOULD win over Gilmer. However, if I am right and we can compete favorably with a team that had some tough turnovers against you...and tough field postition...and was still in the game at 41-35 for a bit then maybe we can catch some breaks and have a chance to win. Also, recall I was responding to a post predicting a 38 point margin of victory. Therefore, I felt compelled to point out that evn though Argyle is a great team and a great program...like every one else competing they are human have so demonstrated.

I would not be surprised totally to see Wimberley get thumped...nor would I be surprised to see a good game...nor would I be surprised to see Wimberely win. Wimberley will definitely have to play their best game. I still do not think it is a great matchup for us. The only really profficient passing team we have played is Drippng Springs. That is a concern to me. Again all I really said was that there was some hope that we could make it a game. A far cry from saying that we will dominate Argyle. So to recap...I am not sure that I exhibted any more confidence than saying perhaps we could make it a game and described what I saw that made me feel that way. Also, every other thread I pulled on to rationalize, dare I say it, a good game is a fact...your team has lost soundly this year to I presume a good team...and your team has been pushed by other good teams...period. The issue is whether Wimberley falls into that category of "good team". You say absolutely not and I say...well maybe... if things go right. You got futher to fall than me.

Wimberley will not get thumped. This will be a good game.

As far as Prosper goes, they are a good team and could still be playing at this point. They lost two games this season before we met in the playoffs and those were to La Vega who was undefeated until they lost to Chapel Hill in the playoffs and their other loss was to Alvarado. I think we both know about the success of those teams... When you do the Adjusted Stats matchup, Prosper loses by 3 to Wimberley. Both teams are quality opponents!

I think the poster that predicted a 38 point Argyle win was just trying to get you guys fired up. I do not see any way that a blow out like that happens.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Also, how come I can't vote in this poll? Do I have to have a certain number of posts or what is the deal?

[waterboy]

Also, how come I can't vote in this poll? Do I have to have a certain number of posts or what is the deal?
Yes, you have to have a certain amount of posts. I don't remember how many posts you have to have, but.....

Did you read my post above?

[firstdown]

This will be a good game. I think the poster that predicted a 38 point Argyle win was just trying to get you guys fired up. I do not see any way that a blow out like that happens.

Hey somebody finally gets it.

[cowboyandchrist]

With all due respect ADK, there were a "few" lucky plays in that Gilmer/Argyle game, but there were also uncharacteristic mistakes by Gilmer, i.e. penalties, turnovers (3), and dropped passes. Argyle was the better team and deserved to move on, but it had nothing to do with luck, in my opinion. The Buckeyes had over 500 yards of offense in that game, which should have been enough, but like you said, Gilmer was unable to make the stops defensively when needed and Argyle was. That was truly the difference in our matchup.

I think Argyle will win this game IF the players and coaches don't read into the hype, and think they have this game in the bag. I don't see that happening, so I will say the Eagles win, but I'm also thinking it will be a lot like the Argyle / Gilmer game, or maybe even the Argyle / Carthage game if the Eagles make those same type of mistakes they made in that game.

Argyle did not make mistakes in the Carthage game, the Carthage D was the best they have faced all year, the Dawgs were making unbelievable hits all night long. Argyle played a great ball game and was the better team after two over times. I have not watched Wimberly , so I can't say how they will do against Argyle. What I do know is if Wimberly can not contain the Argyle Q/B and by that I mean hit him when he takes off before he gets out of bounds, it will be a long night for Wimberly. Argyle goes as the Q/B goes. If Wimberly can do what Carthage did to there recievers, that is hit them so hard they give up the ball, then they have a chance. If Argyle catches the ball in space they can gain huge chuncks of yards. I still pick Argyle only because they played one heck of a good football game against Carthage.

[MGAR]

Argyle did not make mistakes in the Carthage game, the Carthage D was the best they have faced all year, the Dawgs were making unbelievable hits all night long. Argyle played a great ball game and was the better team after two over times. I have not watched Wimberly , so I can't say how they will do against Argyle. What I do know is if Wimberly can not contain the Argyle Q/B and by that I mean hit him when he takes off before he gets out of bounds, it will be a long night for Wimberly. Argyle goes as the Q/B goes. If Wimberly can do what Carthage did to there recievers, that is hit them so hard they give up the ball, then they have a chance. If Argyle catches the ball in space they can gain huge chuncks of yards. I still pick Argyle only because they played one heck of a good football game against Carthage.

Come on man... Take off the blinders.. Argyle didn't make mistakes? Ha

No matter what the score shows, Argyle dominated Carthage. 426 yards to 293.

It was the THREE Argyle turnovers and missed FGs that kept Carthage in the game.

[wimbo_pro]

It was the THREE Argyle turnovers and missed FGs that kept Carthage in the game.

Missed FG's? I thought they had an All-World kicker?

[cowboyandchrist]

Come on man... Take off the blinders.. Argyle didn't make mistakes? Ha

No matter what the score shows, Argyle dominated Carthage. 426 yards to 293.

It was the THREE Argyle turnovers and missed FGs that kept Carthage in the game.
Were you at the game, I seem to remember the Dawg D taking the ball away from the recivers after it was caught. You are right about one thing, Argyle kept the ball away from the Carthage offense and piled up more yardage. It is OK you don't have to agree with what I say, just ask Argyle which was the hardest team to beat so far in the playoffs.

[firstdown]

Missed FG's? I thought they had an All-World kicker?

We do, but sometimes even seasoned 16 yr old's miss one. The kid just set the national record for field goals as a sophomore, his long is 45. He is good.

[hunt4it44]

Hey...question for Wimberley fans. I could have SWORN that I saw #32 run the ball a couple times in Bastrop. That would be a freshman, brother of our QB. Was I seeing things?

Austin American Statesman only shows Wilson, Smith, Kelly and Brady Lambert (not West) as carrying the ball last week. They do have an online article today that mentions West and they say he recovered a fumble on a kickoff when Wimberley played Devine. I remember that fumble and remember it was a freshman who made the play, but I dont recall that it was West Lambert.

[Tejastrue]

His name was wrongly called by the announcer on a run by Trinity. However, he did in fact come in just before half and play several defensive downs when Alana went out. He will see a lot of action on both sides of the ball next year. Good to see another Lambert coming along. The coaches obviously have a lot of confidence in him to let him mix it up for a few downs against Coldsprings.

Same thing here. It was Wilson although they called Lambert's name.

[Tejastrue]

Hey somebody finally gets it.

and that somebody is from Argyle..lol...

[firstdown]

and that somebody is from Argyle..lol...

Yes I found that amusing in its self.

[Sportshack]

We do, but sometimes even seasoned 16 yr old's miss one. The kid just set the national record for field goals as a sophomore, his long is 45. He is good.

Such a benefit to have a great kicker. Wimberley went literally 8 seasons in a row with a good to great kicker. It really helps. The kicker this year is not of that caliber although he is young and should improve.

[Sportshack]

Yes I found that amusing in its self.

Now...now...now...I distinctly recall you claiming what joke...why is this a joke shortly after your post!!! Were we all dealing with someone PUI' ing? :wave:

[waterboy]

Come on man... Take off the blinders.. Argyle didn't make mistakes? Ha

No matter what the score shows, Argyle dominated Carthage. 426 yards to 293.

It was the THREE Argyle turnovers and missed FGs that kept Carthage in the game.
I agree with MGAR here. That's what I was talking about. Mistakes by Argyle, turnovers and uncharacteristic field goal misses, made this game a little closer than it probably should have been, in my opinion. Argyle didn't make those same mistakes against Gilmer. If they had......it might be Gilmer playing this week instead of Argyle. Argyle EARNED the right to be where they are.

[firstdown]

Now...now...now...I distinctly recall you claiming what joke...why is this a joke shortly after your post!!! Were we all dealing with someone PUI' ing? :wave:

No I still believe we win but I thought it necessary to take a somewhat Rocket approach and predict a big blow out, as my Dad used to say spread a little hate and discontent. That being said if I'm wrong I'll be around I won't run and hide.

[MGAR]

Were you at the game, I seem to remember the Dawg D taking the ball away from the recivers after it was caught. You are right about one thing, Argyle kept the ball away from the Carthage offense and piled up more yardage. It is OK you don't have to agree with what I say, just ask Argyle which was the hardest team to beat so far in the playoffs.

No, wasn't at the game.. Only seen the film.

You are right, I don't have to agree with what you say. Just like you don't have to agree with what I say. Only difference is I don't have blinders on.

[Sportshack]

Well...I am still waiting to see Wimbo-Pro's analysis and prediction. The guy is just amazing...he has picked the winning team an incredible 28 out of the last 29 games Wimberley has played...that is an amazing 97% success rate on his prognostications!!!! I am waiting to see his predictions and reasoning before weighing in on the associated poll. The guy just knows his football. :inlove:

[rb585]

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[Tejastrue]

Also, how come I can't vote in this poll? Do I have to have a certain number of posts or what is the deal?

You need 100 posts so get busy..wait, you're an Argyle supporter, never mind..lol..

[lbjacj]

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These shirts will be on sale for $10 at the pep rally Thursday only so get there early if you want one!

[ADKargyleTCU12]

With all due respect ADK, there were a "few" lucky plays in that Gilmer/Argyle game, but there were also uncharacteristic mistakes by Gilmer, i.e. penalties, turnovers (3), and dropped passes. Argyle was the better team and deserved to move on, but it had nothing to do with luck, in my opinion. The Buckeyes had over 500 yards of offense in that game, which should have been enough, but like you said, Gilmer was unable to make the stops defensively when needed and Argyle was. That was truly the difference in our matchup.

I think Argyle will win this game IF the players and coaches don't read into the hype, and think they have this game in the bag. I don't see that happening, so I will say the Eagles win, but I'm also thinking it will be a lot like the Argyle / Gilmer game, or maybe even the Argyle / Carthage game if the Eagles make those same type of mistakes they made in that game.

I agree with you about uncharacteristic plays but both teams had and both teams have those every game. I just don't expect many balls to bounce off people's helmets and into another arm every play. Coach Rodgers will not allow them to read into the hype.

I think last week, they knew what was on the line and played very sloppy in the first half in Abilene against Monahans. This week, we will be able to lay it all on the line and you will see an Argyle team clicking on all cylinders. If we play in the first half like we did against Monahans, we will lose it's as simple as that. If you noticed, after halftime of the Monahans game, we came out and allowed Monahans 30 yards of offense, zero points, turned it on, and stopped making stupid mistakes. Our coaching staff is able to make the adjustments to win the game, as I'm sure Wimberley's staff is able to do as well.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Missed FG's? I thought they had an All-World kicker?

Two missed field goals to win the game. The first was at the end of regulation and he pulled it left and the second was a terrible snap that bounced to the holder in the first overtime and he pulled it left again. The second one wasn't his fault but the first he knows he should have made. In the second overtime, Austin Aune was not going to allow a kick to decide the game and ironically, for the other team, it did.

[firstdown]

Well...I am still waiting to see Wimbo-Pro's analysis and prediction. The guy is just amazing...he has picked the winning team an incredible 28 out of the last 29 games Wimberley has played...that is an amazing 97% success rate on his prognostications!!!! I am waiting to see his predictions and reasoning before weighing in on the associated poll. The guy just knows his football. :inlove:

Wow I'm 39-3 in my picks for Argyle in the last three years, yet when I give my prediction......:wave:

[ADKargyleTCU12]

Well...I am still waiting to see Wimbo-Pro's analysis and prediction. The guy is just amazing...he has picked the winning team an incredible 28 out of the last 29 games Wimberley has played...that is an amazing 97% success rate on his prognostications!!!! I am waiting to see his predictions and reasoning before weighing in on the associated poll. The guy just knows his football. :inlove:

It's real easy to predict that the team you love will win.

[ADKargyleTCU12]

These shirts will be on sale for $10 at the pep rally Thursday only so get there early if you want one!

Those are cool, somebody from Wimberley buy me one ;)