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eagles_victory
11-09-2011, 07:54 AM
Who are your top 5 best teams that didn't win state over the past 10 years?

I could see Chapel Hill fiting in this list if they don't win it this year.

garciap77
11-09-2011, 08:19 AM
Brownwood

Emerson1
11-09-2011, 08:21 AM
00, 01, 02, 03 Forney
03 Burnet

GrTigers6
11-09-2011, 08:23 AM
Who are your top 5 best teams that didn't win state over the past 10 years?

I could see Chapel Hill fiting in this list if they don't win it this year.Number 1 would have to be 2010 Brownwood
1.2010 Brownwood
2.2006 Celina
3.2003 Burnet
4.several teams could fill the next two

cowboyandchrist
11-09-2011, 08:24 AM
93 Tatum Eagles lost to South Lake Carroll

rholl
11-09-2011, 08:39 AM
03 Everman Bulldogs

44INAROW
11-09-2011, 08:48 AM
93 Tatum Eagles lost to South Lake Carroll

not to be picky - but Cuero lost to SLC in 1993 :( remember the day well :(

MGAR
11-09-2011, 08:59 AM
not to be picky - but Cuero lost to SLC in 1993 :( remember the day well :(

True. SLC beat Tatum the week before..

Buff42
11-09-2011, 09:04 AM
2006 Giddings Buffaloes. Lost a slobberknocker in the Quarterfinals to eventual back-to-back State Champ Liberty Hill.

Matthew328
11-09-2011, 09:21 AM
If we are talking the last ten years my guesses would be

2010 Brownwood
2003 Burnet
2001 Forney
2001 Sinton

1992 Vernon and 1984 Daingerfield stick out to me as great teams who fell short from more than ten years ago

hollywood
11-09-2011, 09:41 AM
3A
2010 Brownwood
2009 Abilene Wylie
2003 Burnet
2001 Forney

4A
2002 Brownwood
1998 Brownwood
1990 Sville.. beat us my senior year. They were loaded!

For arguments sake... 1993, 1994, 1999 La Marque Cougars... all 3 of these years Sville beat them but all 3 were very good games that could have gone the other way with a few breaks.

YTBulldogs
11-09-2011, 09:46 AM
2009 Cuero Gobblers. Lost to Gilmer in one of the best (cold) games I've seen.

Saggy Aggie
11-09-2011, 10:05 AM
2009 Abilene Wylie


no. They got completely demolished and wasn't even close to the best team in the state. I didnt even think they belonged on the same field as Gilmer.

If you want a great team from 2009 that didnt win it all, it's the Cuero Gobblers who lost on the goal line to Gilmer in the semis in one of the best games ive ever seen. THAT was the real state championship game and had Cuero pulled it out, theyd have done the exact same thing to Wylie that Gilmer did.

RMAC
11-09-2011, 10:22 AM
Any year Brownwood didn't win it all

Txbroadcaster
11-09-2011, 10:24 AM
2010 Bwood.

2001 Forney

going back further


1988 Marshall

slingshot
11-09-2011, 10:29 AM
no. They got completely demolished and wasn't even close to the best team in the state. I didnt even think they belonged on the same field as Gilmer.

If you want a great team from 2009 that didnt win it all, it's the Cuero Gobblers who lost on the goal line to Gilmer in the semis in one of the best games ive ever seen. THAT was the real state championship game and had Cuero pulled it out, theyd have done the exact same thing to Wylie that Gilmer did.Uhhh... no. Wylie had their worst game of the year and were banged up badly. Cuero played the best they had all year against Gilmer. I honestly think Wylie would have handled Cuero easily.
Another to consider was the '08 Wylie squad. Lost that wild double OT thriller on a very controversial 2 pt conversion to Prosper in the semi's--Prosper goes on to handle La Vega in the final. Wylie had already beaten La Vega in the reg season.

Pendragon13
11-09-2011, 10:59 AM
no. They got completely demolished and wasn't even close to the best team in the state. I didnt even think they belonged on the same field as Gilmer.

If you want a great team from 2009 that didnt win it all, it's the Cuero Gobblers who lost on the goal line to Gilmer in the semis in one of the best games ive ever seen. THAT was the real state championship game and had Cuero pulled it out, theyd have done the exact same thing to Wylie that Gilmer did.We got pretty banged up against Lovejoy in the semi's that year...we had key players that probably wouldn't have suited up if it weren't the SC game. Not saying we would have won at full strength...but it would have been a closer game for sure.

Matthew328
11-09-2011, 11:04 AM
2008 and 2009 Wylie squads were good but dunno if they are in the category of greatest teams not to win it all...
their 2000 squad may qualify for that distinction though

Tin Cup
11-09-2011, 11:07 AM
I think '09 Brownwood wins it all if Graylon Brown is healthy. I think the 2010 Carthage team was better than 2009

Old Tiger
11-09-2011, 11:13 AM
Number 1 would have to be 2010 Brownwood
1.2010 Brownwood
2.2006 Celina
3.2003 Burnet
4.several teams could fill the next two

IMO the 2002 Burnet team that lost to Everman was better than the 2003 team that lost to Gainesville.



Since 2000 I would go this for a top 5.

1. 2002 Burnet
2. 2000 Forney
3. 2004 Jasper
4. 2010 Brownwood
5. 2003 Burnet

SintonFan
11-09-2011, 11:15 AM
If we are talking the last ten years my guesses would be

2010 Brownwood
2003 Burnet
2001 Forney
2001 Sinton

1992 Vernon and 1984 Daingerfield stick out to me as great teams who fell short from more than ten years ago

I got your back on a couple of these Matthew!:2thumbsup
2002 Burnet was pretty good, too.

Saggy Aggie
11-09-2011, 11:15 AM
Uhhh... no. Wylie had their worst game of the year and were banged up badly. Cuero played the best they had all year against Gilmer. I honestly think Wylie would have handled Cuero easily.


lmao okay. we'll go with that. Trent jackson ran for what? 300 yards and 4 tds against the same gilmer D that shut wylie down?


Cuero would have rolled Wylie. Maybe if they had their injured starters back or whoever they could have competed, but would have handled cuero easily is one of the funniest things ive heard. Gilmer BARELY got by Cuero and then stomped wylie but alright.

Tin Cup
11-09-2011, 11:18 AM
I think Wylie matched up against Cuero ten times better than they did Gilmer. We all know it's a matchups game. I think Cuero beats Wylie by 10-14 though.

warda
11-09-2011, 11:44 AM
2006 Giddings Buffaloes. Lost a slobberknocker in the Quarterfinals to eventual back-to-back State Champ Liberty Hill.

The 2006 team was loaded with great talent at every position. I agree Buff.

YTBulldogs
11-09-2011, 11:50 AM
I think Wylie matched up against Cuero ten times better than they did Gilmer. We all know it's a matchups game. I think Cuero beats Wylie by 10-14 though.

In that Cuero/Gilmer game---Cuero had the better team IMO. But, Gilmer had Godfrey. He was amazing avoiding sacks and gaining 20 yards on the play. Don't know how many times Cuero appeared to have him stopped in the back field, then he escapes. Tremendous athlete.

Old Tiger
11-09-2011, 11:53 AM
lulz at 2006 Giddings


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSIsXBmuls

Bullaholic
11-09-2011, 11:59 AM
'10 Brownwood
'04 Decatur
'08 Bridgeport

Saggy Aggie
11-09-2011, 12:05 PM
+1

I thought cuero was the better team.

5wide
11-09-2011, 12:07 PM
2004 decatur without a doubt.

95mustang
11-09-2011, 12:40 PM
3A
2010 Brownwood
2009 Abilene Wylie
2003 Burnet
2001 Forney

4A
2002 Brownwood
1998 Brownwood
1990 Sville.. beat us my senior year. They were loaded!

For arguments sake... 1993, 1994, 1999 La Marque Cougars... all 3 of these years Sville beat them but all 3 were very good games that could have gone the other way with a few breaks.

I thought the ville whipped La Marque pretty good in 1993.

MGAR
11-09-2011, 12:41 PM
In that Cuero/Gilmer game---Cuero had the better team IMO. But, Gilmer had Godfrey. He was amazing avoiding sacks and gaining 20 yards on the play. Don't know how many times Cuero appeared to have him stopped in the back field, then he escapes. Tremendous athlete.

You mean this Godfrey? Was a beast for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBC8gQdz9H8

YTBulldogs
11-09-2011, 12:45 PM
You mean this Godfrey? Was a beast for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBC8gQdz9H8

Yup, Stump was a special talent for sure.

Pendragon13
11-09-2011, 01:06 PM
You mean this Godfrey? Was a beast for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBC8gQdz9H8Yeah, he was unreal to watch. Having a QB that can throw, run, and throw on the run is too much for most teams to handle...but that year they also had fast recievers that could make circus catches, and a mobile O-line. Wylie went into that game not only physically banged up, but mentally depleted from the week before...I think going in full strength we could have given them a game, but lose in the end to superior athletes.

Matthew328
11-09-2011, 01:30 PM
2004 Decatur was up there for me also.....

I wasn't sure how Burnet folks felt about the 2002 team as compared to the 2003 team...both were freaking outstanding

2008 Bridgeport seems a bit odd...I dont remember much about that bunch

eagles31
11-09-2011, 01:36 PM
04 decatur

Emerson1
11-09-2011, 01:39 PM
2004 Decatur was up there for me also.....

I wasn't sure how Burnet folks felt about the 2002 team as compared to the 2003 team...both were freaking outstanding

2008 Bridgeport seems a bit odd...I dont remember much about that bunch
I don't know what they lost, but you have Shipley and McGee one year older and more developed.

slingshot
11-09-2011, 02:17 PM
lmao okay...
Cuero would have rolled Wylie... Gilmer BARELY got by Cuero and then stomped wylie ..Glad you're so easily amused. Trust me Cuero would have been the one rolled. As for Gilmer? They beat both of us... the rest is conjecture. Later.

Bullaholic
11-09-2011, 02:19 PM
2008 Bridgeport seems a bit odd...I dont remember much about that bunch

Well, some may consider that a homer pick on my part, Matt---but the '08 Bull offense is possibly the best we ever had, with only the '01 semi team probably up there with it. Again---just an offense does not an SC team make---but the defense was also pretty good, too. When healthy, they scored effortlessly---even against some of the good teams. They just ran up against an exceptional LH team that season.

DUKE22
11-09-2011, 02:21 PM
IMO the 2002 Burnet team that lost to Everman was better than the 2003 team that lost to Gainesville.



Since 2000 I would go this for a top 5.

1. 2002 Burnet
2. 2000 Forney
3. 2004 Jasper
4. 2010 Brownwood
5. 2003 Burnet

No doubt 04 Jasper. I did not see them but I saw 04 Gilmer first hand and for them to come that close to beating them they had to have been dang good.

pirate4state
11-09-2011, 02:33 PM
lulz at 2006 Giddings


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSIsXBmuls

yeah, too bad someone forgot to tell Giddings you have to play 4 FULL quarters!!

44INAROW
11-09-2011, 02:37 PM
yeah, too bad someone forgot to tell Giddings you have to play 4 FULL quarters!!

That was a fun game to watch - boxing match included lol I think that's the game where I met MANDY :)

Matthew328
11-09-2011, 03:03 PM
I don't know what they lost, but you have Shipley and McGee one year older and more developed.

I think that 2002 Burnet team may have had a better defense...didn't they have a LB that went to Arkansas?? And they had a real good running back also...Patrick Miller...

Saggy Aggie
11-09-2011, 03:19 PM
O
Glad you're so easily amused. Trust me Cuero would have been the one rolled. As for Gilmer? They beat both of us... the rest is conjecture. Later. surprised you're so confident considering that beat down y'all received at smu.

Cuero and Gilmer were head and shoulders above anyone else that year. Just ask Gilmer fans. Wylie wasn't even close to their level. I saw all 3. Did you? My guess is no because what would a Wylie fan be doing watching cuero. Maybe it was just injuries, but the Wylie team I saw wouldn't have even put up much of a fight against cuero. And if you don't believe it, I'm the 2nd person to say cuero actually had the better team on this thread... So it's not just me. Gilmer just had 1 superior QB and just enough on the goal line stand

eagles_victory
11-09-2011, 04:39 PM
O surprised you're so confident considering that beat down y'all received at smu.

Cuero and Gilmer were head and shoulders above anyone else that year. Just ask Gilmer fans. Wylie wasn't even close to their level. I saw all 3. Did you? My guess is no because what would a Wylie fan be doing watching cuero. Maybe it was just injuries, but the Wylie team I saw wouldn't have even put up much of a fight against cuero. And if you don't believe it, I'm the 2nd person to say cuero actually had the better team on this thread... So it's not just me. Gilmer just had 1 superior QB and just enough on the goal line stand You'll talk about that Cuero team all day any chance you get.

Sville
11-09-2011, 05:01 PM
3A
2010 Brownwood
2009 Abilene Wylie
2003 Burnet
2001 Forney

4A
2002 Brownwood
1998 Brownwood
1990 Sville.. beat us my senior year. They were loaded!

For arguments sake... 1993, 1994, 1999 La Marque Cougars... all 3 of these years Sville beat them but all 3 were very good games that could have gone the other way with a few breaks.

Sville won it in 1998. We beat La Marque 34-7. 1993 & 1994 were good games against LM. The 1999 game was against PNG. The two years Sville was good enough to win it and fell short was 1990 and 2005.

Saggy Aggie
11-09-2011, 05:04 PM
You'll talk about that Cuero team all day any chance you get. Do you have a point? Cuz i dont really see it.

LHPfactory
11-09-2011, 05:09 PM
06 Celina, dang good team on offense, defense, and special teams

toddg
11-09-2011, 05:12 PM
05 katy....but the southlake offense was pretty much unstoppable that year!

eagles_victory
11-09-2011, 05:13 PM
Do you have a point? Cuz i dont really see it. About the 4th time Ive seen you go on a rant about how good this team is. No need to catch an attitude about it bro just an observation.

YTBulldogs
11-09-2011, 05:24 PM
Guess I shouldn't have nominated the 2009 Cuero team as one of the best teams in the past 10 years not to win a title. :)

They were amazing though.

CueroDad08
11-09-2011, 06:37 PM
I would have to go with the 05 Cuero Gobbler team. Lost to AW in state championship game on a FG at end of game. Cuero had played 2 teams and won on there road to state that were alot better than AW IMA.The state game was the one time that year were everything went against them and the team did not play anywere close to what they had played all year.

ccmom
11-09-2011, 07:00 PM
I would have to go with the 05 Cuero Gobbler team. Lost to AW in state championship game on a FG at end of game. Cuero had played 2 teams and won on there road to state that were alot better than AW IMA.The state game was the one time that year were everything went against them and the team did not play anywere close to what they had played all year.That was 2004

Old Tiger
11-09-2011, 07:04 PM
I don't know what they lost, but you have Shipley and McGee one year older and more developed.2002 you had a better runningback and linemen I do believe.

LHPfactory
11-09-2011, 07:21 PM
I would have to go with the 05 Cuero Gobbler team. Lost to AW in state championship game on a FG at end of game. Cuero had played 2 teams and won on there road to state that were alot better than AW IMA.The state game was the one time that year were everything went against them and the team did not play anywere close to what they had played all year.

That was complements of Jeremy Kerley, think he is with NY Jets now.

gold_33
11-09-2011, 07:49 PM
2006 Wimberley Texans!! Defeated both the D1 state champ Texarkana LE and D2 champ Liberty Hill in the regular season, then blew a 21pt 1st quarter lead in the regional finals to Hondo. Not sure how many teams have defeated both eventual state champs in one year.

Saggy Aggie
11-09-2011, 08:34 PM
2006 Wimberley Texans!! Defeated both the D1 state champ Texarkana LE and D2 champ Liberty Hill in the regular season, then blew a 21pt 1st quarter lead in the regional finals to Hondo. Not sure how many teams have defeated both eventual state champs in one year.Wait, Wimberley played TLE in the regular season?

What? Thats a hell of a drive, no?

Tin Cup
11-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Wait, Wimberley played TLE in the regular season?

What? Thats a hell of a drive, no?


Thinking the same thing. One of those gridiron classic venues maybe?

cowboyandchrist
11-09-2011, 08:44 PM
That was complements of Jeremy Kerley, think he is with NY Jets now.
You are correct ,it was the hippo's that beat Cuero in 05. Then they played one of the best games I have ever seen against my Tatum Eagles. there were three future NFL players on the field that day. Two from Tatum and one from Hutto.

Buckeye80
11-09-2011, 09:26 PM
Thinking the same thing. One of those gridiron classic venues maybe?

They played in Waxahachie. I actually went to that game. Wimberley was a very good team.

I'll nominate the 10-1 Gilmer Buckeyes. Lost to LE in round one in what (around here) is still considered one of the great upsets. LE had a RB by the name of LaMichael James. I wonder what ever happened to him.

HEMOTOXIC
11-09-2011, 09:33 PM
O surprised you're so confident considering that beat down y'all received at smu.

Cuero and Gilmer were head and shoulders above anyone else that year. Just ask Gilmer fans. Wylie wasn't even close to their level. I saw all 3. Did you? My guess is no because what would a Wylie fan be doing watching cuero. Maybe it was just injuries, but the Wylie team I saw wouldn't have even put up much of a fight against cuero. And if you don't believe it, I'm the 2nd person to say cuero actually had the better team on this thread... So it's not just me. Gilmer just had 1 superior QB and just enough on the goal line stand

In that case, we loss to Gilmer 42-35. I think we could have handled Wylie.

LH Panther Mom
11-09-2011, 09:33 PM
Liberty Hill, '08
Burnet, '02/'03

Tin Cup
11-09-2011, 09:45 PM
Liberty Hill, '08
Burnet, '02/'03

Was that the LH team the beat Brownwood like 56-49 in LH?

Bc that Brownwood team couldn't hold anyone under 40 points.

Z-RO
11-09-2011, 11:40 PM
It's been over 10 years but the 1998 Breckenridge Buckaroo team was a beast. Had they not had a bunch of knuckle heads/thugs who got wasted the night before their last game I believe they would have won a title. http://lonestarfootball.net/team.asp?action=schedule&T=603&S=1998&GUID=2178354860

slingshot
11-10-2011, 12:04 AM
In that case, we loss to Gilmer 42-35. I think we could have handled Wylie....prob could have handled the Dallas Cowboys too, huh?

HEMOTOXIC
11-10-2011, 06:08 AM
...prob could have handled the Dallas Cowboys too, huh?

You are being silly now. Ask Gilmer who gave them the better game. Navasota or Wylie in 09. BTW, don't be so bitter. Should have, could have, would have, but it didn't. That holds true for Wylie and Navasota.

Navasota 35, Gilmer 42, F (Navasota lead at the half)
Wylie 26, Gilmer 43, F

SintonFan_inAustin
11-10-2011, 06:45 AM
If we are talking the last ten years my guesses would be

2010 Brownwood
2003 Burnet
2001 Forney
2001 Sinton

1992 Vernon and 1984 Daingerfield stick out to me as great teams who fell short from more than ten years ago2001 Sinton team had size and speed, with several running backs to go along with Adrian Alaniz at qb and some good size receivers.

SintonFan
11-10-2011, 11:55 AM
2001 Sinton team had size and speed, with several running backs to go along with Adrian Alaniz at qb and some good size receivers.

Don't forget the 6'9" 350# nose guard. ;)

Bullaholic
11-10-2011, 12:14 PM
Liberty Hill, '08
Burnet, '02/'03

I know firsthand how good 08' LH was, LHPM---they were very, very good.

lbjacj
11-10-2011, 12:53 PM
Wait, Wimberley played TLE in the regular season?

What? Thats a hell of a drive, no?

It was in waxahachie and my wife and I had the misfortune of being on the bus that broke down on the way. Thankfully as Wimberley fans came along they would take as many as would fit in their cars starting with the cheerleaders and others involved. We were some of the last ones off the bus and got to the game in the middle of the first quarter. They announced over the PA what had happened and asked all who needed a ride back to Wimberley meet those who had room at halftime to make arrangements.Everyone got home safe and sound but that was the last bus trip for us!

Saggy Aggie
11-10-2011, 12:57 PM
And the Wylie/Gilmer game was a lot more one sided than the score indicates. 26-43 doesnt do the buckeyes justice.

1st and goal
11-10-2011, 03:12 PM
Uhhh... no. Wylie had their worst game of the year and were banged up badly. Cuero played the best they had all year against Gilmer. I honestly think Wylie would have handled Cuero easily.
Another to consider was the '08 Wylie squad. Lost that wild double OT thriller on a very controversial 2 pt conversion to Prosper in the semi's--Prosper goes on to handle La Vega in the final. Wylie had already beaten La Vega in the reg season.
I believe Cuero would've handled y'all easily...
The Gilmer Cuero semi was the best game I ever listened to on the radio. Only it was a heartbreaker for me.

hollywood
11-10-2011, 03:40 PM
I believe Cuero would've handled y'all easily...
The Gilmer Cuero semi was the best game I ever listened to on the radio. Only it was a heartbreaker for me.

Did you watch Wylie in '09?

hollywood
11-10-2011, 03:42 PM
And the Wylie/Gilmer game was a lot more one sided than the score indicates. 26-43 doesnt do the buckeyes justice.

Wylie was banged up... Gilmer was hitting on all cylinders. Gilmer/Wylie match up in week 13/14 would have been much much closer Saggy.

LH Panther Mom
11-10-2011, 07:52 PM
Was that the LH team the beat Brownwood like 56-49 in LH?

Bc that Brownwood team couldn't hold anyone under 40 points.
Yes.

bobcat1
11-10-2011, 07:54 PM
2004 Decatur
2006 Celina
2010 Brownwood
2007 China Spring
2006 Gilmer

exbull
11-14-2011, 04:47 PM
2004 Decatur was up there for me also.....

I wasn't sure how Burnet folks felt about the 2002 team as compared to the 2003 team...both were freaking outstanding

2008 Bridgeport seems a bit odd...I dont remember much about that bunch

Yes, that 2008 Bridgeport team went 12-1 and was the only team to beat Division 1 state champion Prosper that year. That game against Liberty Hill was a great game considering Bridgeport had 9 rushes for -7 yards.

OLE'BULL
11-14-2011, 04:52 PM
2001 Sinton team had size and speed, with several running backs to go along with Adrian Alaniz at qb and some good size receivers.

+1 for 2001 Sinton. They were a fantastic football team. I am not sure how they didnt win state

texas_wildcat
11-14-2011, 04:56 PM
Kennedale in 01 and 03 both years they were 12-2