Game 5 RANGERS VS CARDINALS!

[eagleqb_14]

whew gotta get the bats going early tonigh and get chris outta there! GO RANGERS:clap: WE BELIEVE

[Phil C]

Go Rangers! We need to go to St. Louis with the 3-2 edge.

[Tin Cup]

I think it is extremely important to score first again tonight. We have be so good when playing with the lead all year. CJ is so due it's not even funny.

[wimbo_pro]

If we win this game...I predict we win the series. Go Rangers!

[Phil C]

If we win this game...I predict we win the series. Go Rangers!

Listen to that daring young man!!

:eek:

[eagleqb_14]

Lets go rangers!!!!!! Gametime baby

[Farmersfan]

Gotta love CJ Wilson.

[Phil C]

Come on Rangers! Fight and win!

This game is important because out of 54 teams that were 2-2 after game 4 the winner of game 5 won the series 37 times. Even though there are exceptions the odds are that tonight's winner wins it all based on past results.

[hollywood]

Okay... Let's calm down and PLAY ball!

[hollywood]

No pressure

[eagleqb_14]

horrible inning for cj

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Gotta love CJ Wilson.:ack!:

[Tejastrue]

My man Moreland... let me down...you're gonna have to make up for it now...Lets go Rangers :clap:

[Phil C]

Cardinals ahead 2-0. Rangers better get bats going tonight or the series is over. No way Rangers can win in St. Louis trailing 2-3. :(

[Txbroadcaster]

CJ always hurts himself when he nibbles..figured he would take the cue from Holland and go right at the batters.

[eagleqb_14]

cj thinks to much throw the damn ball

[SintonFan_inAustin]

CJ always hurts himself when he nibbles..figured he would take the cue from Holland and go right at the batters.Thats his problem he's not even close to nibbling. This isn't the same CJ from the regular season.

[Txbroadcaster]

cj thinks to much throw the damn ball


he falls in love with his stuff to much...locate that first pitch fastball and pitch off that..he likes to show he has great breaking pitches

[hollywood]

CJ always hurts himself when he nibbles..figured he would take the cue from Holland and go right at the batters..
Wishful thinking. A lot of baseball, but wishful thinking.

[Tin Cup]

Is it just me or does this crowd suck? Never felt any energy even before the poor inning by cj

[hollywood]

Pull him... Pull him NOW!

[Roughneck93]

Wow! What is going on here?!

[Farmersfan]

CJ always hurts himself when he nibbles..figured he would take the cue from Holland and go right at the batters.



How completely worthless can CJ get?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Pull him... Pull him NOW!:thumbsup:

[Farmersfan]

The Rangers are in the process of giving away the World Series and Holland is playing with the commentators.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

The Rangers are in the process of giving away the World Series and Holland is playing with the commentators.LOL!!! i just knew somebody would think that!

[Tejastrue]

Dodged another bullet..maybe this is a good sign...

[Tejastrue]

The Rangers are in the process of giving away the World Series and Holland is playing with the commentators.


LOL!!! i just knew somebody would think that!

You knew it would be Farmersfan....:wave:

[Txbroadcaster]

I love seeing Holland have fun..he gets it..Wilson only thinks he gets it

[Roughneck93]

Here we go! What a shot!

[SintonFan_inAustin]

My man Moreland... let me down...you're gonna have to make up for it now...Lets go Rangers :clap:thats your boy blue!

[Tejastrue]

That's the first step :clap:

[eagleqb_14]

mitch moreland~!!!!!!

[hollywood]

Murphy and Moreland have made up for their errors... Time for CJ to step up and be a man.

[eagleqb_14]

gotta get 3 up 3 down pleaseeeeee

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Murphy and Moreland have made up for their errors... Time for CJ to step up and be a man.Hopefully the CJ from the Regualr season shows up right now

[Roughneck93]

That was a nice pitch to Berkman. Needs to keep hitting that spot.

[Tin Cup]

This ump is tough on the pitchers. I'd say this benefits Carpenter in a big way. Our hitting has been fine just need baserunners earlier in innings not with two outs.

[Emerson1]

The Rangers are in the process of giving away the World Series and Holland is playing with the commentators.
Took you a while to go into meltdown mode.

[Tin Cup]

It bugs me when they allow 1stbasemen to come off the bag before the catch. Pujols has done it twice pretty obviously. I guess they do it to protect players but it's terrible.

[Tin Cup]

FF only shows up when bad things are taking place. You don't see him when things are positive.

[Emerson1]

I don't think CJ will be on this team next year regardless if they win it all unless he manages to go 3 up 3 down the next 3 innings.

[eagleqb_14]

alright good inning rangers, and CJ god way to end that one!!!!! we need a run this inning

[hollywood]

Does anyone else have any fingernails left???

[Tin Cup]

We need CJ very badly. We might not be in the playoffs without him. He just needs to grow as a pitcher. If we lose him, we better bring a true ace in

[Tejastrue]

Dang...another bullet dodged..this has to be a good omen...

[Phil C]

We're still in it. Come on Rangers! Get those outs and let's get those bats going. You can do it!

[Tejastrue]

Say what you want about CJ, now that he's been pulled, but he has battled and kept them in the game...come on Feldman...

[eagleqb_14]

heck of an inning!!!!!! we need a run this inning!! we believe

[hollywood]

Time for some stix

[lbjacj]

Yesssss

[Roughneck93]

Yes sir!! Beltre finally connects on a breaking ball!

[hollywood]

YES!!! Finally Beltre gets his shot and takes a knee! Great stroke!

[Saggy Aggie]

I thought beltre was doing terrible according to ff?

[hollywood]

Time for Murphy to tag one.

[hollywood]

Atta baby!!!

[eagleqb_14]

beltre! david!

[hollywood]

Who was doin the Wash??

[hollywood]

Na-po-li Na-po-li Na-po-li

[Phil C]

Well we got it tied up anyway. Now let's keep them from scoring and keep those bats going. Come on Rangers!

[Tin Cup]

As good as that was it needed to be better. Dang!!!

[SintonFan_inAustin]

tough part of the Cardinal's lineup coming up.

[Tejastrue]

Na-po-li Na-po-li Na-po-li

Man..I just knew that was gone... okay new ballgame...

[hollywood]

Let's go Ogando!

[hollywood]

Dang it!

[Tin Cup]

I HATE puting guys on base!!!

[Roughneck93]

Dodge another bullet.

[eagleqb_14]

whew!!!!!! goos pitching!!! we need a run this inning and then let our pitching staff do the rest!!!

[hollywood]

We need more Moreland!

[Tin Cup]

What a game! What a series!

[hollywood]

Amazing

[Tejastrue]

I'm calling it here for Cruz....

[hollywood]

Need more stix

[Roughneck93]

Mike Young! Way to start it off!

[hollywood]

More AB work please!

[Tin Cup]

Please leave Murphy in please! I know we won't but I love his at bats he battles every pitcher!

[Tejastrue]

I'm calling it here for Cruz....

Well...so much for that...

[Phil C]

Botton of 8 with two on and one out. Come on Rangers! Let's not lose this opportunity!

[Tin Cup]

Well...so much for that...

Carry over on intentional walk lol

[Roughneck93]

Huge break. Need to capitalize.

[lbjacj]

N a p -o- l i ! ! !

[Roughneck93]

:clap: :clap:

[eagleqb_14]

wooohooooooo!! 4-2 rangers!!!

[hollywood]

Na-po-li Na-po-li Na-po-li

[Tin Cup]

I'm glad I'm young. I would be dead if I was older. Holy cow!

[Tejastrue]

Huge break. Need to capitalize.

How'd we do....:2thumbsup

[Roughneck93]

How'd we do....:2thumbsupWe'll take it! Plus a few more.

[Tin Cup]

Moreland AB hurt. Hope Elvis gives us some cushion

[bigwood33]

What the heck is La Russa doing? I hope the national media roasts him after this game...they sure would Washington. all we have heard is how TLR is a freaking "genius"...over manager maybe but not a genius.

[Phil C]

A great ending! I wish we could have had more because they have some good batters coming up. Come on Rangers! Hold on! Three more outs. Go Feliz!

[Tin Cup]

What the heck is La Russa doing? I hope the national media roasts him after this game...they sure would Washington. all we have heard is how TLR is a freaking "genius"...over manager maybe but not a genius.

In what way? Gave Motte time to get ready and pitching to Elvis over Ian is a nobraiber

[Roughneck93]

Big bats coming up. Feliz...please no walks!

[bigwood33]

Blowing through his bullpen...could have left the same guy in to issue the walk. IF this game goes extra innings, he has the likes of Arthur Rhodes left down there.

[eagleqb_14]

3.....

[eagleqb_14]

1......

[Roughneck93]

That'll work.

[Tin Cup]

I hope Craig steals every time. Pujols gave us two outs!!!

[Phil C]

Oh man! A walk and a great hitter coming on! Come on Feliz!

[eagleqb_14]

one win away!!!!!

[Roughneck93]

Wow, what a game! One victory away Rangers! :clap: :clap:

[hollywood]

What a freakin series!!

Napoli game 5 MVP

[Tin Cup]

MVP of series if we win one more game. Total team effort, pitchers hung tough tonight and kept us in it.

[bigwood33]

What a freakin series!!

Napoli game 5 MVP
If the Rangers win it, Napoli is probably the Series MVP! He has been great!

[Tin Cup]

I'm just glad Beltre is still in his slump lol. The great thing about the Rangers is any given night we have a new hero.

[eagleqb_14]

nap-o-li!!!!!! great win rangers... bring it home!!!

[Tejastrue]

Very nice...very nice...:clap: Got my man Colby going in game six...I like our chances...

[eagleqb_14]

Awesome win

[Phil C]

A great win indeed. It would have been nice to have won it all at home but the main thing is the Rangers needed to win 2 of 3 at home and take a 3-2 lead back to St. Louis. Plus they know they can win there too as in Game 2. Come on Rangers! Let's end it Wednesday night.

[Tx Challenge]

I think this one seals the deal! Great job Rangers!

[Emerson1]

NBA Finals
Mavs
lose on road
wins on road
loses at home
wins at home
wins at home
wins on road

Rangers
lose on road
wins on road
loses at home
wins at home
wins at home
???????

[Daddy D 11]

went to last night and tonights games...BADASS time indeed

[Tx Challenge]

Rangers have this one. They will win 1 game in STL. They are due a break out. Other than Sunday's game, the Cards have opportunities out the rear! Rangers are getting it done. Hope they seal the deal Wed!


NBA Finals
Mavs
lose on road
wins on road
loses at home
wins at home
wins at home
wins on road

Rangers
lose on road
wins on road
loses at home
wins at home
wins at home
???????

[Txbroadcaster]

like him or not CJ was a bulldog last night

[StangEm]

Let's go Rangers!!! One more time!!! Bring it home for us!!!!

[Farmersfan]

like him or not CJ was a bulldog last night


got to hand it to CJ! He fought his way out of some very tricky situations. Of course it was HIM that created those sticky situations but he didn't give up. What a great 8th and 9th inning for the Rangers. I think the 9th inning in game 2 and last night proved the biggest difference between these two teams. I bitch and moan for a week about Beltre swinging at the sliders in the dirt and missing by 2' and then he drops to his knees to get to the ball and launches it for a home run. And how clutch has Napoli been in this series? There have only been a few times in this series when I was confident that something would happen but when Napoli was up in the 8th with bases loaded I knew he would at least get the sac fly. The Rangers are making it look WAY tougher than it should but in the end they got it done.

[Tin Cup]

like him or not CJ was a bulldog last night

My biggest problem with CJ is that his best pitch is a deception pitch that is a ball far more often than strike. When teams don't swing he's in trouble. When he throws his pitches for strikes he can be lethal. People are praising Holland. I still think CJ is better than DH but he has just struggled with command in the postseason. If you have one or two "strike" pitches in the Major Leagues you will not succeed unless you throw 96+

[Tin Cup]

Napoli and Beltre have both had "breakout" years. Why? Because the rest of our lineup is so good that you have no option but to pitch to everyone.

[Farmersfan]

FF only shows up when bad things are taking place. You don't see him when things are positive.




What can I say? If I wanted to hang out with the girls and giggle over the "Good things" while braiding hair and painting toe nails I could do that at home. I use this forum to express my frustrations and get things off my chest. Unlike a lot of you guys I EXPECT professional athletes to get things done and I like to discuss why they aren't getting it done when they fail. I see no value in holding hands and skipping around singing the praises and greatness athletes who make millions of dollars to be so. The Rangers pulled out a very impressive victory last night. Even little ole' negative me can appreciate that. But we could spend hours debating on WHY they had to perform heroics in the 8th to win it...............

[Farmersfan]

My biggest problem with CJ is that his best pitch is a deception pitch that is a ball far more often than strike. When teams don't swing he's in trouble. When he throws his pitches for strikes he can be lethal. People are praising Holland. I still think CJ is better than DH but he has just struggled with command in the postseason. If you have one or two "strike" pitches in the Major Leagues you will not succeed unless you throw 96+



I agree with this. And I would add that it concerns me that CJ doesn't acknowledge his struggles. He asserts to all that will listen that he "Had great stuff" and "Sometimes you just have to realize they are great hitters"! That leads me to believe it will just continue. If you can't acknowledge that you need to improve then it is not likely you will improve. CJ is way too arrogant for his own good. I appreciate his effort last night in hanging in there and getting out of some very bad situations but personally would rather have a pitcher that doesn't put himself into those positions. Especially for a #1 on a World Series team. CJ would be a really good #2 or #3 on this team next season.

[Txbroadcaster]

. The Rangers are making it look WAY tougher than it should but in the end they got it done.


not seeing this at all..this two teams are so evenly matched

[RoyceTTU]

NBA Finals
Mavs
lose on road
wins on road
loses at home
wins at home
wins at home
wins on road

Rangers
lose on road
wins on road
loses at home
wins at home
wins at home
???????

Fascinating, good find

[hollywood]

CJ clawed his way through 6 tough innings. Proud to see he's got fight in him. Every pitcher has a downside from time to time. Just unfortunate CJ's is during the post season. Any coorelation to pressure? Could be. So far, I don't think he's a #1. He pitched very well through the summer, but puckered up during post season. He's a #2 or #3 at best. Bring in the ace!

[Pendragon13]

Except for that epic meltdown in pitching/defense this past Saturday....nearly every starter has done their part to put the team into position to win this thing. My faves are Nelly Cruz and Kinsler at the plate, and Kinsler/Andrus combining for some awesome defense. Also, Napoli has done everything he possibly can to shut up the critics..

[Tin Cup]

Other than game 4, the Cardinals have looked just as good or better than the Rangers. They are way better than people realize. Good defense, good pitching, and good hitting. Combine that with being hot at the right time and it's a dangerous situation.

Here's my opinion:

Manager: The Home Team
Hitting- Texas
Power- Texas
Speed- Texas (Molina negates this)
Starting Pitching- STL
Bullpen-Push
Infield defense- STL (other than Beltre being better than Freese by a lot)
Outfield defense- Texas

[Txbroadcaster]

Other than game 4, the Cardinals have looked just as good or better than the Rangers. They are way better than people realize. Good defense, good pitching, and good hitting. Combine that with being hot at the right time and it's a dangerous situation.

Here's my opinion:

Manager: The Home Team
Hitting- Texas
Power- Texas
Speed- Texas (Molina negates this)
Starting Pitching- STL
Bullpen-Push
Infield defense- STL (other than Beltre being better than Freese by a lot)
Outfield defense- Texas

Disagree about the infield D..St Louis had to make a change in August because the infield D was so bad..the infield D for Rangers has won at least one WS game

[Tin Cup]

Disagree about the infield D..St Louis had to make a change in August because the infield D was so bad..the infield D for Rangers has won at least one WS game

Don't really agree or disagree. Position by position I'd go

1st: Pujols
2nd: Kinsler
Short: Furcal maybe. I like Elvis a lot
3rd: Beltre

It's hard not to be biased but our infield has hurt us a lot and been stunning at others. STL has just been steady in the infield.

[Txbroadcaster]

Don't really agree or disagree. Position by position I'd go

1st: Pujols
2nd: Kinsler
Short: Furcal maybe. I like Elvis a lot
3rd: Beltre

It's hard not to be biased but our infield has hurt us a lot and been stunning at others. STL has just been steady in the infield.

1st Pujlos, but not by much over Moreland...yes Moreland struggled last night but in game 4 he made some key digs on low throws
2nd Kinsler
ss elvis..by a long shot..Furcal is steady Elvis has made 4-6 plays that changed the WS
3b Beltre


The Ranger infield gets itself in problems at times because they get to balls they should not..both of Kinsler's errors were balls the St Louis 2nd Baseman would not get close to.

[Tejastrue]

What the heck is La Russa doing? I hope the national media roasts him after this game...they sure would Washington. all we have heard is how TLR is a freaking "genius"...over manager maybe but not a genius.


Reading the news today...I think you got your wish...

[Tin Cup]

It's hard to believe they got it wrong twice. To be honest I think they wanted Rzep to strike out Napoli. It was actually a good pitch that Napoli hit hard the other way. Napoli hits fastballs a lot better than what Rzep throws, other than just being left vs right matchup that favors Nap

[Txbroadcaster]

It's hard to believe they got it wrong twice. To be honest I think they wanted Rzep to strike out Napoli. It was actually a good pitch that Napoli hit hard the other way. Napoli hits fastballs a lot better than what Rzep throws, other than just being left vs right matchup that favors Nap

agree...lets say Rzep gets Nap out..think Tony is saying wow we got lucky cause of some phone issues...no he would be saying well I had a hunch, and we all know I am a genuis

[Tejastrue]

What can I say? If I wanted to hang out with the girls and giggle over the "Good things" while braiding hair and painting toe nails I could do that at home. I use this forum to express my frustrations and get things off my chest. Unlike a lot of you guys I EXPECT professional athletes to get things done and I like to discuss why they aren't getting it done when they fail. I see no value in holding hands and skipping around singing the praises and greatness athletes who make millions of dollars to be so. The Rangers pulled out a very impressive victory last night. Even little ole' negative me can appreciate that. But we could spend hours debating on WHY they had to perform heroics in the 8th to win it...............


Believe that's the difference between a true fan and a journeyman critic. :wave:

[Buckeye1980]

Napoli and Beltre have both had "breakout" years. Why? Because the rest of our lineup is so good that you have no option but to pitch to everyone.


How can you call this a "breakout " year for Beltre? He hit .296 with 32 HR and 105 RBI. In 2004 he hit .334 with 48 HR and 121 RBI. I believe he "brokout" a long time ago.

With Napoli, maybe he has been stadily improving over last 4 years, which he has' and finally reached his potential.

[Tin Cup]

How can you call this a "breakout " year for Beltre? He hit .296 with 32 HR and 105 RBI. In 2004 he hit .334 with 48 HR and 121 RBI. I believe he "brokout" a long time ago.

With Napoli, maybe he has been stadily improving over last 4 years, which he has' and finally reached his potential.

Breakout was in quotes bc I couldn't think of a better word. 2004? I don't care! My only point is that both had a better year bc of the talent throughout the lineup. See Vlady last year to this year.

[regaleagle]

The important thing is the Rangers as a team have positioned themselves for having success in St. Louis, whether it happens in Game 6 or Game 7. I'm looking for the knock-out punch to occur in Game 6. That lefty the Cards have up next is no milquetoast pitcher. He's the real deal, and will pose problems for our line-up if he's hitting the corners. I look for the Rangers to make this guy work for his strikes, and force him to throw fastballs over the plate. At least, that's what I hope happens.

[Txbroadcaster]

Big issue for Rangers is rain...might bring Carp back into play

[Farmersfan]

Believe that's the difference between a true fan and a journeyman critic. :wave:



After much deliberation and consideration I would have to say.........................Uh, NO!!!!

[Farmersfan]

Other than game 4, the Cardinals have looked just as good or better than the Rangers. They are way better than people realize. Good defense, good pitching, and good hitting. Combine that with being hot at the right time and it's a dangerous situation.

Here's my opinion:

Manager: The Home Team
Hitting- Texas
Power- Texas
Speed- Texas (Molina negates this)
Starting Pitching- STL
Bullpen-Push
Infield defense- STL (other than Beltre being better than Freese by a lot)
Outfield defense- Texas



Manager: Cardinals
Hitting- Texas (Rangers lead SL in every category except walks)
Power- Texas (Rangers had 58 more HR, more singles,more 2B, more 3B. Cards had more walks which isn't a power number)
Speed- Texas (Rangers had 86 more stolen bases, see numbers for doubles and triples)
Starting Pitching- TX (Rangers gave up 134 fewer hits, 81 more SO, Cards had a slightly better ERA but Rangers had better Avg against)
Bullpen- Push
Infield defense- TX (Other than Pujols)
Outfield defense- TX (by a long shot)

[GrTigers6]

Manager: Cardinals
Hitting- Texas (Rangers lead SL in every category except walks)
Power- Texas (Rangers had 58 more HR, more singles,more 2B, more 3B. Cards had more walks which isn't a power number)
Speed- Texas (Rangers had 86 more stolen bases, see numbers for doubles and triples)
Starting Pitching- TX (Rangers gave up 134 fewer hits, 81 more SO, Cards had a slightly better ERA but Rangers had better Avg against)
Bullpen- Push
Infield defense- TX (Other than Pujols)
Outfield defense- TX (by a long shot)Really? Even after what Larussa did last night?:D

[Farmersfan]

Really? Even after what Larussa did last night?:D



I think Larussa had a hunch and then decided to cover his butt with this nonsense because it didn't work out! I heard on the radio today that Larussa is pretty divisive in St. Louis. Many, many people there don't care for him. And I wouldn't equate a miscommunication with the bullpen to Washington pinch hitting Gentry for Murphy and then German for Ogando when he had Torrealba on the bench. But I also said I wouldn't start Moreland either and you saw how he redeemed himself last night! :clap::clap:

[GrTigers6]

yeah i agree

[Farmersfan]

Another question that I have been thinking about some but haven't seen it brought up. During the game last night the 1st base coach kept yelling to the Cardinals runner at first about how he is ok. I assume he was protecting him from a sneak pickoff move. I questioned why the coach would be allowed to yell DURING the pitch. I know that little leaguers get chants going and such but I have hardly ever heard anyone making distracting noises when a pitcher is trying to pitch or a batter is trying to hit. Anyone else hear the 1st base coach yelling at the runner right in the middle of CJ's windup?

[waterboy]

Yep. I heard it, too. Fortunately, it didn't make any difference in the outcome. I think the Rangers have to close this series out tomorrow night.

[Daddy D 11]

FF quit being a little bitch

[Emerson1]

Another question that I have been thinking about some but haven't seen it brought up. During the game last night the 1st base coach kept yelling to the Cardinals runner at first about how he is ok. I assume he was protecting him from a sneak pickoff move. I questioned why the coach would be allowed to yell DURING the pitch. I know that little leaguers get chants going and such but I have hardly ever heard anyone making distracting noises when a pitcher is trying to pitch or a batter is trying to hit. Anyone else hear the 1st base coach yelling at the runner right in the middle of CJ's windup?
There are mics on the bases so stuff seems louder then it really is. I doubt CJ could even hear him. If it was a problem then CJ would have said something.

[BaseballUmp]

Yea there's like 20 mics on the field. How can a coach, telling his player he's ok become distracting to a pitcher? Kind of dumb if you ask me...that's like a coach complaining that the strings on a pitchers glove is too long...just stupid

[Tejastrue]

If this has been mentioned already...my apologies... How many players in either league have the option of calling their own hit-n-run while at the plate as Pujols apparently has/did last night when Craig was thrown out?? Can't say I've heard of this before...

[GpΣígh╤¥ III]

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[Roughneck93]

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad286/HeUeR05/294559_2517264488446_1158240207_2952779_1420760096 _n.jpgLol, nice! :clap: