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rockdale80
09-22-2011, 02:09 PM
Is socialist.

So why is everyone for an equal split in revenue?

The schools that earn more should keep more of the money, right?

ATM should be applauding UT for such republican idealogy.

Txbroadcaster
09-22-2011, 02:12 PM
Is socialist.

So why is everyone for an equal split in revenue?

The schools that earn more should keep more of the money, right?

ATM should be applauding UT for such republican idealogy.


I have said this on here before

In the US a capitalist nation we use socialistic rules for sports

In Europe where most are socialistic or lean heavy that way they have free for all economic rules in their sports.

rockdale80
09-22-2011, 02:13 PM
I have said this on here before

In the US a capitalist nation we use socialistic rules for sports

In Europe where most are socialistic or lean heavy that way they have free for all economic rules in their sports.


Because socialistic rules makes for more even competition. I guess it is okay to have fair play in sports, but not in real life....
:)

Txbroadcaster
09-22-2011, 02:17 PM
Because socialistic rules makes for more even competition. I guess it is okay to have fair play in sports, but not in real life....
:)

and by that thinking it means Euro wants fair play in life, but not in sports LOL

rockdale80
09-22-2011, 03:18 PM
and by that thinking it means Euro wants fair play in life, but not in sports LOL

Exactly! :)

Farmersfan
09-22-2011, 03:39 PM
Is socialist.

So why is everyone for an equal split in revenue?

The schools that earn more should keep more of the money, right?

ATM should be applauding UT for such republican idealogy.


I don't think conference Revenue Sharing is socialist. I think it's more akin to franchising a larger entity. The Big 12 (or whatever conference a team plays in) is the reason any team can generate the revenues in the first place.

Txbroadcaster
09-22-2011, 03:55 PM
I don't think conference Revenue Sharing is socialist. I think it's more akin to franchising a larger entity. The Big 12 (or whatever conference a team plays in) is the reason any team can generate the revenues in the first place.

other way around..the conference has their revenue generated by the schools

rockdale80
09-22-2011, 03:59 PM
I don't think conference Revenue Sharing is socialist. I think it's more akin to franchising a larger entity. The Big 12 (or whatever conference a team plays in) is the reason any team can generate the revenues in the first place.

Redistribution of wealth is socialism. Class Warfare I tell you!!!

navscanmaster
09-22-2011, 05:51 PM
Everybody has their own agenda. If you are a UT fan, you don't or won't see what the fuss is about. Apparently, equal revenue sharing is pretty important to some of the more successful conferences out there. Rockdale, you sarcastically hit it on the head, IMO. If one school, such as UT, has a huge built in advantage already, what is to keep them from continuing dominance and never allowing the smaller schools, ala Kansas or Baylor, to take a step. You could say play better football and get more TV appearances, but good successful programs take good coaching and AD leadership, strong player development and strength conditioning, and at least attractive facilities to showcase to the recruits. That takes a lot of $$$$$ these days. I think Texas can make that one concession when it comes to CONFERENCE membership. It is not their only lucrative source of income. They can be happy with big, equal TV bucks and still have big money donors and the top ranked merchandising department in the nation. But that is just my opinion.

Txbroadcaster
09-22-2011, 06:05 PM
Everybody has their own agenda. If you are a UT fan, you don't or won't see what the fuss is about. Apparently, equal revenue sharing is pretty important to some of the more successful conferences out there. Rockdale, you sarcastically hit it on the head, IMO. If one school, such as UT, has a huge built in advantage already, what is to keep them from continuing dominance and never allowing the smaller schools, ala Kansas or Baylor, to take a step. You could say play better football and get more TV appearances, but good successful programs take good coaching and AD leadership, strong player development and strength conditioning, and at least attractive facilities to showcase to the recruits. That takes a lot of $$$$$ these days. I think Texas can make that one concession when it comes to CONFERENCE membership. It is not their only lucrative source of income. They can be happy with big, equal TV bucks and still have big money donors and the top ranked merchandising department in the nation. But that is just my opinion.


As a Texas fan I understand the fuss(but i also think the fuss is very overrated in that the issues people have with LHN can be avoided)..The funny thing is the biggest issue is Tier 3 rights which every school in every conference own an sale on their own and keep it all.

What I dont understand is the hypocricy of the fan bases of all these schools griping( not you or an certain individual)...These people all so appalled and spouting about the greed of Texas, if the same offer was there for their school they would be doing what Texas fans are doing now and that is defending their right to have one( and Texas fans would as majority flip to other side lol)

turbostud
09-22-2011, 06:17 PM
Is socialist.

So why is everyone for an equal split in revenue?

The schools that earn more should keep more of the money, right?

ATM should be applauding UT for such republican idealogy.

I thought Austin was full of democrats.

rockdale80
09-22-2011, 06:21 PM
Everybody has their own agenda. If you are a UT fan, you don't or won't see what the fuss is about. Apparently, equal revenue sharing is pretty important to some of the more successful conferences out there. Rockdale, you sarcastically hit it on the head, IMO. If one school, such as UT, has a huge built in advantage already, what is to keep them from continuing dominance and never allowing the smaller schools, ala Kansas or Baylor, to take a step. You could say play better football and get more TV appearances, but good successful programs take good coaching and AD leadership, strong player development and strength conditioning, and at least attractive facilities to showcase to the recruits. That takes a lot of $$$$$ these days. I think Texas can make that one concession when it comes to CONFERENCE membership. It is not their only lucrative source of income. They can be happy with big, equal TV bucks and still have big money donors and the top ranked merchandising department in the nation. But that is just my opinion.

My point had absolutley nothing to do with what team I support. I actually like both schools and cheer for both of them, but attend ATM games more frequently than UT games and I live in Austin. So if anything, I lean towards ATM.

It has more to do with hypocrisy.... :)

LIONS#1
09-22-2011, 06:28 PM
Give each school the percentage they pull in...that would be fair!! I don't like the Idea that one school has an advantage over others but that is the case and always will no matter how you slice the pie. Obviously Texas and OU should get bigger pieces than tek and Baylor based on the revenue, ticket sales they pull in alone!! If atm would have chose to stay then the Pie gets cut to include them based on their revenue/school attendance numbers/ticket sales/ insert here..whatever... So you have three or four schools that get bigger pieces and divide up the rest in shares based on their ticket sales, attendance,revenue etc. When their (insert here) increases so does their piece of the pie..Just a thought:crazy:

LIONS#1
09-22-2011, 06:32 PM
I thought Austin was full of democrats.
That is inside the loop...us folks that live in the burbs didn't move here from California :)!:1popcorn:

turbostud
09-22-2011, 06:36 PM
That is inside the loop...us folks that live in the burbs didn't move here from California :)!:1popcorn:

LOL, Dallas is no different.

Farmersfan
09-23-2011, 07:42 AM
other way around..the conference has their revenue generated by the schools



Chicken or Egg argument TXB! There is a reason very few schools can survive as a independent.

Farmersfan
09-23-2011, 07:58 AM
Give each school the percentage they pull in...that would be fair!! I don't like the Idea that one school has an advantage over others but that is the case and always will no matter how you slice the pie. Obviously Texas and OU should get bigger pieces than tek and Baylor based on the revenue, ticket sales they pull in alone!! If atm would have chose to stay then the Pie gets cut to include them based on their revenue/school attendance numbers/ticket sales/ insert here..whatever... So you have three or four schools that get bigger pieces and divide up the rest in shares based on their ticket sales, attendance,revenue etc. When their (insert here) increases so does their piece of the pie..Just a thought:crazy:



How could it ever correctly be determined how much UT is responsible for the overall revenue generation in the Big 12?

rockdale80
09-23-2011, 01:19 PM
How could it ever correctly be determined how much UT is responsible for the overall revenue generation in the Big 12?

Math? Do you think that each school should keep the money they earn and nothing more?

Farmersfan
09-23-2011, 01:44 PM
Math? Do you think that each school should keep the money they earn and nothing more?



Well the problem with that is the revenues come from a TV contract that goes to the Big 12 conference and divided between the schools. My point was how do you determine what percentage of that pie goes to UT if it isn't a equal share? UT is the big fish in this pond and logic would dictate that they probably are responsible for a larger percentage of the revenue but how is that quantified?

Daddy D 11
09-23-2011, 01:53 PM
The current administrations socialist policies sure have helped the economy :crazy:

rockdale80
09-23-2011, 02:24 PM
The current administrations socialist policies sure have helped the economy :crazy:

Yep. He started with a gem of an economy. If you remember correctly, right before he exited, our previous president handed a trillion dollars to banks that were too big to fail!!


But hey, Bush did no wrong and we should all blame Obama.... :crazy::crazy:

Regardless, let's get back on topic and discuss socialist policies and football.

sinton66
09-23-2011, 04:00 PM
How could it ever correctly be determined how much UT is responsible for the overall revenue generation in the Big 12?


Give each school the percentage they pull in...that would be fair!! I don't like the Idea that one school has an advantage over others but that is the case and always will no matter how you slice the pie. Obviously Texas and OU should get bigger pieces than tek and Baylor based on the revenue, ticket sales they pull in alone!! If atm would have chose to stay then the Pie gets cut to include them based on their revenue/school attendance numbers/ticket sales/ insert here..whatever... So you have three or four schools that get bigger pieces and divide up the rest in shares based on their ticket sales, attendance,revenue etc. When their (insert here) increases so does their piece of the pie..Just a thought:crazy:

He gave an answer already.

LIONS#1
09-23-2011, 04:02 PM
Well your boy Obama don't need to be defined by what Bush did...unless you are Rip Van Winkle or maybe even Vanilla Ice ( another Van Winkle).. on drugs then you could see he is doing a great job screwing everything up on his own with his socialized health care and a congress that was null and void thanks to dims running the show the last part of Bush's and the first part of Barry's tenure:crazy::twitch::1popcorn:...Just sayin..:1popcorn: Now back to your regular scheduled programming!!

rockdale80
09-23-2011, 04:09 PM
Well your boy Obama don't need to be defined by what Bush did...unless you are Rip Van Winkle or maybe even Vanilla Ice ( another Van Winkle).. on drugs then you could see he is doing a great job screwing everything up on his own with his socialized health care and a congress that was null and void thanks to dims running the show the last part of Bush's and the first part of Barry's tenure:crazy::twitch::1popcorn:...Just sayin..:1popcorn: Now back to your regular scheduled programming!!

Mr. Lions#1, , what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.