Celina vs Pilot Point

[orange machine]

If anybody wants to watch the game it will be on fox sports southwest Friday night.

[bobcat4life]

Its the DQ Big Game of the Week

[Bosqueville]

Its the DQ Big Game of the Week

Why??? This will be over after the 1st quarter.

[bobcat4life]

Why??? This will be over after the 1st quarter.
I dont know. It suprised me that it was

[Gsquared]

OMG, this game is going to be a Celina slaughter or PP in the highest order. I cant see anyway this one ends up even somewhat close.

[orange machine]

Never know that's why they play the game, I mean I realize the moon, sun and stars have to be aligned right with a planetary shift, but it could happen right?

[Txbroadcaster]

When did the DQ GOTW start being broadcast? usually they just go to the game and do a big segment on it

[Gsquared]

Never know that's why they play the game, I mean I realize the moon, sun and stars have to be aligned right with a planetary shift, but it could happen right?
PP wont make this close even with celestial help of any sorts.

[ccmom]

When did the DQ GOTW start being broadcast? usually they just go to the game and do a big segment on it

That's what I was thinking too. I also thought UIL didn't allow live Friday night broadacasts. DQ gotw usually just gets like pep rally coverage and lots of extra highlight coverage.

[RoyceTTU]

When did the DQ GOTW start being broadcast? usually they just go to the game and do a big segment on it

I might be wrong, but I think last year. Brownwood had a couple of games streamed. Seems like the Bridgeport and maybe 1 other. I really can't remember. Or maybe that was the Big Country deal :eek: I don't know they all start running together.

[marler1972]

It is only highlights,
will not be on tv

[bobcat1]

That's what I was thinking too. I also thought UIL didn't allow live Friday night broadacasts. DQ gotw usually just gets like pep rally coverage and lots of extra highlight coverage. That's all it is.

PP will bring it all this game.:thinking:

[Old&Crusty]

For you Celina historians, was 1992 the last time Celina had a starting freshman QB?

[Dr Death]

Here's more trivia. Who scored the most points on Celina last year?

[bobcat1]

Here's more trivia. Who scored the most points on Celina last year?Exactly! PP will be up for this game. You can bank on that!

[Dr Death]

I guess you interptret that because PP scored 35 last year on the 10-1, that they were "up" for the game.

[bobcat1]

I guess you interptret that because PP scored 35 last year on the 10-1, that they were "up" for the game. Not the only reason.

[BILLYFRED0000]

I guess you interptret that because PP scored 35 last year on the 10-1, that they were "up" for the game.

When playing spread teams they play the special. and can go cover 1 or 2 or 3. Just cause they have a rep to play the "1" does not mean we do it all the time.

[DavidWooderson]

Going into the 4th quarter of last year's game, it was tied at 35. Celina scored 3 times in the 4th to win the game. The only reason PP wasn't in the ball game the last quarter is because they were sucking wind. Only had 26 on varsity last year......this year only 23.

I'm not going to go out and predict a PP win because I will be shocked if it actually happens. PP has better WRs this year, but not as good of a QB. My worry is the O-Line...it's mediocre at best. The Center is just about all the line has.

One thing I do know is this, PP will play Celina hard and they'll play until the final tick. It may be Celina by a landslide but the Bearcats won't give up. I still wish PP/Celina would have played in '08 and '09, I think we would have gotten 2 wins those years and would help with the confidence against them.

It's the DQ Big game of the week because it's still a big rivalry game, it's been one-sided yes, but with the exception of 2 games they've still been close games, PP just hasn't been able to get over the hump.

[CHS_89]

Make no mistake...Pilot Point will bring it..Rivalry seems to bring out the best in most teams regardless of talent. I certainly thought Pilot Point was going to win that game in Celina last year...Perhaps they are waiting to do it on their home field this year. I will be there hopefully...always a good game!!

[CMETILT]

One thing I do know is this, PP will play Celina hard and they'll play until the final tick. It may be Celina by a landslide but the Bearcats won't give up. I still wish PP/Celina would have played in '08 and '09, I think we would have gotten 2 wins those years and would help with the confidence against them.



Maybe 09, but not 2008. Carthage beat Celina in a great game at Texas Stadium to win the 3A state title. McCartney, Waldrup, and crew were pretty strong that year.

[DavidWooderson]

However didn't Celina stumble out of the gates that year? I think they did. PP would have played them earlier while stumbling.

[bobcat1]

However didn't Celina stumble out of the gates that year? I think they did. PP would have played them earlier while stumbling.Yes they did but the captain of the ship righted it and got it back on course.;)

[orange machine]

Yes they did but the captain of the ship righted it and got it back on course.;)
Bobcat I think you mean bus driver. If I remember right it went something like this.

I'm the bus driver if you don't like it get off!!! Then everybody at the qb club meeting stood up and gave Coach Ford a big round of applause.

[bobcat1]

Bobcat I think you mean bus driver. If I remember right it went something like this.

I'm the bus driver if you don't like it get off!!! Then everybody at the qb club meeting stood up and gave Coach Ford a big round of applause.That was it. Dang CRS disease!

[NTFan]

However didn't Celina stumble out of the gates that year? I think they did. PP would have played them earlier while stumbling.

If you recall, the teams we "stumbled" against were.....Daingerfield(2A champs).......Whitehouse(4A playoff team).......and Propser(3A champs)...... not sure it was as much as we "stumbled" as it was we were playing some fine teams

[DavidWooderson]

Exactly and playing Pilot Point that went to the semi-finals with 2 thousand yard rushers and a 1,500 yard passing QB would have been one of those teams that would have been a big test.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Yeah PP was pretty salty that year. it would have been a good rivalry game for sure.

[alaskacat]

Is this game on the radio or internet?

[BobcatBennie]

If I remember correctly the score was 35 to 35 going into the 4th quarter last season? :stirpot:

[Rocket]

Is this for the Class B Title? And if y'all tie, will y'all both win a "title"? Just wondering...

[WildTexan972]

Is this for the Class B Title? And if y'all tie, will y'all both win a "title"? Just wondering...

ah yes....finally a comment from the weaker sisters to the west.....

so if we turn the clock back 30 years or more are we then to believe the maroon nobodies have a team in the weak west again?

I dint think so......

once the old man went away, so did that team's success.......

[bobcat1]

If I remember correctly the score was 35 to 35 going into the 4th quarter last season? :stirpot:He has surfaced!

[Bullaholic]

Wonder who GA is rootin' for? Where in the world is PPStatebound?

[bobcat1]

Wonder who GA is rootin' for? Where in the world is PPStatebound?In hiding. He knows what's up.:taunt:

[DavidWooderson]

First off he's a traitor to both of us, traded us for them, then them for us, then us for them again, and then them for us again........now both of us and wearing Aubrey red. (Still can't believe he hasn't found away to slip orange into their colors some how.)

Secondly, Pilot Point was never Class B

Third Celina went 4-1 last night winning JV, 7th A&B and 8B.......PP won the 8th grade A game 30-20. Celina scored late in the game, PP missed 5 conversions, could have been 40-12. Celina played well, but the PP 8th grade was just a tad bit better.

[marler1972]

5-1 JV orange 41-0, JV white 35-0...................

[Bullaholic]

First off he's a traitor to both of us, traded us for them, then them for us, then us for them again, and then them for us again........now both of us and wearing Aubrey red. (Still can't believe he hasn't found away to slip orange into their colors some how.)

Secondly, Pilot Point was never Class B

Third Celina went 4-1 last night winning JV, 7th A&B and 8B.......PP won the 8th grade A game 30-20. Celina scored late in the game, PP missed 5 conversions, could have been 40-12. Celina played well, but the PP 8th grade was just a tad bit better.

How many SC's did Celina win with GA as HC? Not saying anything, just asking a historical interest question.

[Old&Crusty]

How many SC's did Celina win with GA as HC? Not saying anything, just asking a historical interest question.

If memory serves me right, 6. Ford was coach in 05 & 07.

[BILLYFRED0000]

I remember the ruckus when he left to go to pilot point in 03......wowser. I also remember being told by a couple of coaches(not from Celina) that we would not win a single game in 03. I just laughed and said watch us.

[WildTexan972]

5-1 JV orange 41-0, JV white 35-0...................


wow.......76-0 is quite a JV whippin indeed......

[WildTexan972]

I remember the ruckus when he left to go to pilot point in 03......wowser. I also remember being told by a couple of coaches(not from Celina) that we would not win a single game in 03. I just laughed and said watch us.


he left after the 2001 season dint he? we were still in the streak when he left and it lasted until after Celina's 2nd ever 3A playoff game....

I still wonder why Butch went for the 1 pt kick with a hurt kicker instead of going for the win right there while he had those D'field boys tired...they drove it right down their throat for the td and the 2pt conversion would have avoided OT.....but alas

[marler1972]

Great night for the jv teams.

[BILLYFRED0000]

yeah your right...... I was thinking when one of my daughters gradiated.... wrong daughter.

[DavidWooderson]

Yes he did.....Spring of '02. Problem was I think he brought the wrong Assistants with him from Celina...haha Should have brought Butch, Bill and James with him. Oh well we just all need to remember that Coach Ford, Coach Elliot, Coach Evans and Coach Ellis are all Bearcats and Coach R. Jones was a Bearcat assistant for 10+ years before going to Celina. SOOOOOOO.....the only way Celina can beat Pilot Point is they have to go get Bearcats to do it! haha

[bobcat4life]

How many SC's did Celina win with GA as HC? Not saying anything, just asking a historical interest question.
Six. 1974, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001

[bobcat1]

Six. 1974, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001I don't think Coach Moore was at the helm in 1974. I could be wrong.

[BobcatBennie]

Let the butt whooping commence!

[charlesrixey]

woohoo! i wish this game was next week since i will be there, but Melissa is lookin pretty good so i may luck out and get to see a great game next friday! We should have less trouble with the bearcats this year, however. I think picking one qb is a good idea, but i like both of them. It works out really well if they keep brooks as the starting FS, since the pass coverage seemed to play a notch above when he was in there, especially late in the game last week

[charlesrixey]

I don't think Coach Moore was at the helm in 1974. I could be wrong.

I think Coach Moore got there in 71, and left in 77-not 100% but pretty sure. But he walked into a pretty good program that i believe Virgil Miller had put together

[bobcat1]

I think Coach Moore got there in 71, and left in 77-not 100% but pretty sure. But he walked into a pretty good program that i believe Virgil Miller had put togetherYou are correct except it was 1972 when he came there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.A._Moore

[bobcat1]

Celina scores first 7-0

[BobcatBennie]

Celina scores first 7-0

Waaaaa Waaaaa Waaa Waaa!

[bobcat1]

Celina now up 14-0 over PP

[CHS_89]

Prayers for the young man from Pilot Point who was injured tonight. From what the announcers were saying, it was a broken arm and he is a Sr. What a bummer!!

[charlesrixey]

14-0 on a Simmons run

I really do think not rotating the qb has helped-the offense looks more in rhythm......

[bobcat1]

PP gets on the board 14-3 Celina Still in the 1st

[bobcat1]

Prayers for the young man from Pilot Point who was injured tonight. From what the announcers were saying, it was a broken arm and he is a Sr. What a bummer!!Agreed

[bobcat1]

21-3 Celina with 7:12 remaining in the half TD was a 35 yard pass after a fumble recovery

[bobcat1]

Celina 21- Pilot Point 6 at the half

[orange machine]

We look stuck in mud we just are not clicking right now.

[charlesrixey]

Elliott looks more comfortable but the running game slowed down in the second quarter and stalled out. unfortunately the defense spent most of the second quarter on the field, but if the ground game can get going again the bobcats will win this one going away in the second half

[bobcat1]

That big O-Line should start having their way soon.

[bobcat1]

TD Celina 8:58 remaining in the 3rd 27-6 over PP

[bobcat1]

Safety on the kickoff. Now lead 29-6 and get the ball back.

[bobcat1]

Celina scores again 6 minutes left 3rd Score now 36-6 Celina over PP Jamarick Simmons has 19 rushes for 134 yards and 3 TD's

[bobcat1]

Celina leads PP 36-12 4:12 left in the game

[bobcat1]

Deshawn Davis returns kickoff for TD Celina leads 43-12 3:49 left Celina has 399 yards of total offense 311 on the ground

[bobcat1]

Final Celina 43 Pilot Point 12

[orange machine]

Celina Played much better in the 2nd half I think the coaches chewed on some butt at halftime.

[DavidWooderson]

Hats off to the Bobcats......our squad of 25 was dropping like flies, I think final body count was around 5 or 6. Prayers to those athletes on both sides that had injuries tonight.

I really don't know what to say. It's frustrating being a PP fan right now. 1 - The non-district schedule hasn't helped and isn't going to get better, (Liberty Christian, Iowa Park, Celina, Nolan Catholic and Boyd), when you're playing that good of competition and you have a small roster and a young roster (experience wise) it's a good way to get players hurt. 2 - I don't know why this coaching staff has been so stubborn about sticking with the spread. I HATE the spread. It's going into 7 years now, it's a failed experiment in Pilot Point, it doesn't work, especially when we're in 3A. We have 25 kids on the roster, when you have 4-5 WRs running down field every play and then they have to turn around and play defense, they're dead by the 2nd half. When PP had the good years in 08 and 09, they ran the spread yes, but they RAN the ball out of the spread. In 08 they had 2 1,000 yard rushers and a QB that rushed for 900 yds, in 08 the QB rushed for 1,200 yards and the RB rushed for 2,980 and 45TDs. When your QB is slow on the trigger and isn't accurate, your O-Line doesn't give him time set up in the pocket and your WR's can't catch AND when you do run the ball your RB, FB and QB get 6 to 8 yards a carry, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this crap doesn't work. RUN THE FOOTBALL! It's worked before in Pilot Point, TRUST ME, their's 30 years of game film and 80 years of records that says it does. 3 - Defensively PP did a pretty good job, but same ole same ole, tagging and looking to pull the flag out of the players waistband kills them. They've finally started to wrap up, now they just haven't figured out how to drive the player or drag the player down. Tackling isn't just a problem in High School, I see it in College and in the Pros as well, when did they quit teaching it? Back in the days (I know I'm pulling the old man card out) when you played Pilot Point, you knew your ass was going to be sore in the morning because you were going to get hit and you were going to get hit hard for 4 quarters of football. Jerry Jones and G.A. Moore's staffs taught how to tackle, they taught how to hit, they how to wrap an opponent, push him backwards and take him to the ground......somehow that has been lost, I guess G.A. took the "Tackling for dummies" book with him when he left the last time. Celina did what Celina does. PP had some stops, and then one missed tackle turned into 5 or 6 and 15, 20, 60 yards later was a 1st Down or Touch Down.

Gonna be a long year to be a Bearcat fan.

[orange machine]

Defensivly I thought PP did a very good job during the first half y'all loaded up the box and made it tough on Celina. I think that in the 2nd half a combination of things happened.1 I think the coaches tore into the Butts of the Celina players and 2 PP looked wore out. Overall I thought PP played a tough game it's hard to win when you have the line Celina does and they wear you done during the game.

[bobcat1]

Hats off to the Bobcats......our squad of 25 was dropping like flies, I think final body count was around 5 or 6. Prayers to those athletes on both sides that had injuries tonight.

I really don't know what to say. It's frustrating being a PP fan right now. 1 - The non-district schedule hasn't helped and isn't going to get better, (Liberty Christian, Iowa Park, Celina, Nolan Catholic and Boyd), when you're playing that good of competition and you have a small roster and a young roster (experience wise) it's a good way to get players hurt. 2 - I don't know why this coaching staff has been so stubborn about sticking with the spread. I HATE the spread. It's going into 7 years now, it's a failed experiment in Pilot Point, it doesn't work, especially when we're in 3A. We have 25 kids on the roster, when you have 4-5 WRs running down field every play and then they have to turn around and play defense, they're dead by the 2nd half. When PP had the good years in 08 and 09, they ran the spread yes, but they RAN the ball out of the spread. In 08 they had 2 1,000 yard rushers and a QB that rushed for 900 yds, in 08 the QB rushed for 1,200 yards and the RB rushed for 2,980 and 45TDs. When your QB is slow on the trigger and isn't accurate, your O-Line doesn't give him time set up in the pocket and your WR's can't catch AND when you do run the ball your RB, FB and QB get 6 to 8 yards a carry, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this crap doesn't work. RUN THE FOOTBALL! It's worked before in Pilot Point, TRUST ME, their's 30 years of game film and 80 years of records that says it does. 3 - Defensively PP did a pretty good job, but same ole same ole, tagging and looking to pull the flag out of the players waistband kills them. They've finally started to wrap up, now they just haven't figured out how to drive the player or drag the player down. Tackling isn't just a problem in High School, I see it in College and in the Pros as well, when did they quit teaching it? Back in the days (I know I'm pulling the old man card out) when you played Pilot Point, you knew your ass was going to be sore in the morning because you were going to get hit and you were going to get hit hard for 4 quarters of football. Jerry Jones and G.A. Moore's staffs taught how to tackle, they taught how to hit, they how to wrap an opponent, push him backwards and take him to the ground......somehow that has been lost, I guess G.A. took the "Tackling for dummies" book with him when he left the last time. Celina did what Celina does. PP had some stops, and then one missed tackle turned into 5 or 6 and 15, 20, 60 yards later was a 1st Down or Touch Down.

Gonna be a long year to be a Bearcat fan.You make some very good points DW. I too pray those that were injured are okay today. Tackling is a lost art. It seems everyone wants to go for the big hit and fails to wrap up or don't want to hit at all and plays grab tackle. I like to see pancake blocking and good form tackling. I understand an occasional missed tackle but a game full is lack of teaching by staff or desire to be physical by the player himself.

[BobcatBennie]

Again I harp on the two stats that are going to get the little Bobcats beat.

2 - fumbles (fortunately none lost)
... and drum roll
11 penalties for 99 yards (certainly Celina traditionally has to fight the ref's chips, but come on, that is a known issue)

[OldNavy]

Again I harp on the two stats that are going to get the little Bobcats beat.

2 - fumbles (fortunately none lost)
... and drum roll
11 penalties for 99 yards (certainly Celina traditionally has to fight the ref's chips, but come on, that is a known issue)

11 is a 31% improvement over the 16 they got last week. If they keep making that improvement they will be fine by playoff time. I think Milissa and Paris will both be high quality opponents this year and that should help this team mature. Celina's passing game seems to be improving and last night they were what, 13 of 18. There were 3 balls delivered right on target but dropped, one ball just on the finger tips and one that the QB was hit while trying to throw. (Got a grounding penalty for that one.) All in all, pretty good delivery of the rock to the receivers. As players settle into their positions and get more reps I think there will be fewer mistakes and more efficient play. I think it is going to be a fun season.

[orange machine]

One thing that needs to be added here is Jamark Simmons is a beast once everything starts gelling on the offensive side it could be a long night for most defenses. Defensivly we have to get better at getting in the backfield and tackling. It will come the defense last year struggled some butt by dist. They were playing good.

[DavidWooderson]

Again I harp on the two stats that are going to get the little Bobcats beat.

2 - fumbles (fortunately none lost)
... and drum roll
11 penalties for 99 yards (certainly Celina traditionally has to fight the ref's chips, but come on, that is a known issue)


Okay this is where I have to disagree with you. I'll admit I am a PP fan, but I do go and see other games, I usually see 2 or 3 Celina games a year for the last 20 years. I go to those games unbiased, I don't pull for Celina or their opponent, I do give a little more pull to their opponent because if I don't have a rooting interest I usually want the underdog to win in ALL sports. I have NEVER seen Celina having to fight the refs. Usually more times than none, the games I see it's like the refs are afraid to call a penalty on the Mighty Bobcats. They hardly ever call the famous Celina Chop Block. It happens 4 to 5 times a game that I go to and it gets called 20% of the time. Last night penalty wise I saw an undisciplined Celina team and I've never seen that. 2 chop blocks were called, the first time it gets called you would have thought that the lineman would have though, "okay we got caught, we can't do it again" then the Pass Interference calls. Ooops he got called for Pass Interference maybe when I cover a WR I shouldn't come over the back and push him down before the ball gets there. Not real sure what the players were thinking.

[orange machine]

Celina has been very undisciplined with penalties this year for sure but the coaches will get that worked out.

[nt7on7]

Here is a point where stats can be misleading...

How many penalties did Celina have with their first bunch? How many occurred when the game was waaaaaay past being decided? Answer -- Most of them. I want to say that Celina had 4 or 5 penalties by the midpoint of the 3rd quarter. The rest came during the later stages of the game with younger or less experienced players playing on defense and offense.

[BILLYFRED0000]

dis is true......... first squad played reasonably clean football.

[DavidWooderson]

You're right, but both chop blocks and the offsides were against the first team.

[Twirling Time]

First off he's a traitor to both of us, traded us for them, then them for us, then us for them again, and then them for us again........now both of us and wearing Aubrey red. (Still can't believe he hasn't found away to slip orange into their colors some how.)

Secondly, Pilot Point was never Class B

Actually Pilot Point was Class C from 1931-38, then Class B from 1939-50, Class A from 1951-79, and 2A from 1980-2001 and 2008-09. (Everyone got an extra A in 1980, so Pilot Point was basically in the same class for 50 years straight.)