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rancher
07-04-2011, 10:33 AM
The want of Bling has now reached the high school level. The Oregon Duck scandal is just the tip of the iceberg and all signs are pointing to the state of TEXAS. Cecil Newton, please step aside, college football’s new public enemy #1 is Willie Lyles. Sorry Cecil, but you had your time in the sun, the Joe Schads and Mark Schlabachs or the world are now interested in whether or not Willie may have taken cash in return for getting blue chip recruit Lache Seastrunk to sign with Oregon. Willie has established CSS (Complete Scouting Services) his web sites are High School Price List and Juco Price List. There for a few thousands he will provide you a player profile. For a few more thousands, he will make sure the player attends your camp. In the mean time he serves a mentor and advisor to the player of course there is a price. Here’s the thing, though: how comprehensive is the “national” database that Lyles offers? I ask that because CSS appears to be a solo endeavor: The one-person Complete Scouting Services operation is, according to Harris County property tax records, located at Lyles’ home address in Houston. (SportsByBrooks.com)

According to the CSS web site, here’s how their national packages are broken down:

High School Price Listing

Film Package: Texas, Florida, California and Georgia $5000 each state. Every other state $2500 per state.

State Package: $5000 per state.

Regional Packages include West, Southwest, Northeast, Southeast and the Mid West: $10000 per region

The “Trifecta” Package: Choose any three states that you want coverage: $14000 per custom package

National Package: $25,000

Each package includes monthly profiles with evaluations, access to the Complete Scouting website and extensive spreadsheets with player information from the states that are purchased. The National Package includes film from every state. (CompleteScouting.com)

In addition, NCAA officials have discovered that some recurits are being paid by Willie when they allow an IN HOME VISIT BY COLLEGE COACHES.

With these ties to Texas, according to a very close source in the UIL, Dr. Mark Cousins is very concerned and has sounded the alarm to not let this taint Texas High School Football. More to come.

rancher
07-04-2011, 10:47 AM
Just read and learned that Van Malone, the former cornerbacks coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station, Texas, campus.

"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kid as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."

Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Malone is the recruiting coordinator and defensive secondary coach at the University of Tulsa. He said he told Lyles that A&M doesn't pay for football players. Malone added he told Peterson in a subsequent phone conversation that Lyles was trying to sell his services.

I hope this pimp goes to jail.

Ernest T Bass
07-04-2011, 10:51 AM
This is a very unpopular opinion, but I feel that this usually only happens when the HS coaches don't completely fullfill their purpose. In the case of Seastrunk, Lyles becames his father figure b/c he didn't have one. If his HS coaches were fullfilling their purpose, Lyles wouldn't have had an opening. Now that coaches are aware of this happening, most will keep these guys away. The danger comes when these "agents" start bypassing the coaches recruiting the parents, which is easy to do.
However, Cousins attention is in the wrong place. If he's concerned about HS athletics, he needs to worry about the Texas Legislature allowing public schools to hire non-educators as part-time coaches. Not only will you see quality go through the floor, you'll see lots of these guys making part-time money from the public schools and full time money from colleges to do the very thing that Lyles is doing.

rancher
07-04-2011, 12:20 PM
In an interview with KCOH-AM’s Craig Shelton, Lyles said that the University of Texas was the driving force behind a “well-staged” media campaign designed to discredit him. A campaign Lyles told Shelton was originated, “when I didn’t want to steer kids their [Texas] way.”

Of the University of Texas football program Lyles said, “they thought they lost out on kids [because of Lyles]” and that “Lache Seastrunk [of Temple, Texas] is the kid that was in question about Oregon.”

Very interesting that when Lache Seastrunk’s mother didn’t want her son to attend Oregon, it was Lyles who engineered Seastrunk’s grandmother signing his National Letter of Intent to Oregon - circumventing the desires of Evelyn Seastrunk while still satisfying NCAA rules.

So thanks to Lyles’ awareness of rules governing high school and NCAA student-athletes, Oregon was able to sign Seastrunk and James - which obviously contributed to Lyles getting paid $25,000 by the school.

Who will be the sitting duck? Lyles or Kelly? Is this a Mack Brown plot as alleged?

rancher
07-04-2011, 12:46 PM
Now more news from NCAA involving LSU and again a Texas High School player. Thayer Evans reported on the relationship between Lyles and Houston-area high school football prospect Trevon Randle:

Randle said Lyles talked to him a lot about California and Miami. He said Lyles didn’t have to talk to him much about Oregon, because “I told him about Oregon.” But Randle said Lyles knew Ducks coach Chip Kelly well.

Just over a month after meeting Lyles, Randle committed to LSU at a Tigers junior day. Randle said he consulted with his parents before choosing LSU, but said his father is “pretty tight” with Lyles.

Having committed to LSU, Randle said he later spent time with Lyles while attending LSU summer camps. He said Lyles was particularly close with (LSU Assistant Coach Brick) Haley, who recruited him for the Tigers.

It was Haley who cut the $6,000 check to Lyles on behalf of LSU.

Old Tiger
07-04-2011, 01:12 PM
Heard Major Applewhite blasted Lyles after he saw what was going on with the Lache Seastrunk recruitment and Lyles has a vendetta against MA.

rancher
07-04-2011, 03:36 PM
Willie J. Lyles bio
Age: 31
Background: Lyles says, in an interview with Fox Sports Radio, that he attended Texas Southern University, and worked as a high school coach before moving into scouting.

MSL Sports: Lyles says he worked as director of southwest scouting for this now-defunct New York-based service from 2005 to late 2008, when it folded.

Elite Scouting Services: Lyles says he started this Florida-based service with former MSL colleague Charles Fishbein in late 2008 or early 2009. Says he left in late 2009 to start Complete Scouting Services on his own. Fishbein says he fired Lyles in January 2010 for "nonperformance."

Complete Scouting Services: Lyles registered this Houston-based service with Harris County, Texas, in December 2009. No website for the company is registered until March 2010.

Former Feetsball Coach in Texas, was he a member of THSCA?

Ernest T Bass
07-04-2011, 03:43 PM
Willie J. Lyles bio
Age: 31
Background: Lyles says, in an interview with Fox Sports Radio, that he attended Texas Southern University, and worked as a high school coach before moving into scouting.

MSL Sports: Lyles says he worked as director of southwest scouting for this now-defunct New York-based service from 2005 to late 2008, when it folded.

Elite Scouting Services: Lyles says he started this Florida-based service with former MSL colleague Charles Fishbein in late 2008 or early 2009. Says he left in late 2009 to start Complete Scouting Services on his own. Fishbein says he fired Lyles in January 2010 for "nonperformance."

Complete Scouting Services: Lyles registered this Houston-based service with Harris County, Texas, in December 2009. No website for the company is registered until March 2010.

Former Feetsball Coach in Texas, was he a member of THSCA?

He never graduated from Texas Southern, so Im going to assume he wasn't.

LH Panther Mom
07-04-2011, 04:53 PM
You need to start providing LINKS to your "stories". Your agenda against HS coaches is getting real old!

eagles_victory
07-04-2011, 05:33 PM
Just read and learned that Van Malone, the former cornerbacks coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station, Texas, campus.

"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kid as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."

Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Malone is the recruiting coordinator and defensive secondary coach at the University of Tulsa. He said he told Lyles that A&M doesn't pay for football players. Malone added he told Peterson in a subsequent phone conversation that Lyles was trying to sell his services.

I hope this pimp goes to jail.How many times has this story been posted on here?

maestro
07-06-2011, 09:42 AM
welcome football fans to the world of the basketball coach and aau.

the years that i had college-possibilities athletes....i was always nervous during the summers. lost 2 sophs one year to a street agent in a houston summer league....kids enrolled in hisd.
happily...we fought off the aau guys years later on another d one hoopster.